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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1980 on: February 04, 2017, 04:12:13 PM »
ACEs are heavy, no doubt ;)

Riding some TIh 8.18" on an 8.38 (has a nice taper so all good) and some broken in bones meds (bot) soft (tops).

As easy to carve as ace but nice and light and snappier to center for better stability. no problems grinding anything yet.
i want a set of tih's so badly for over $150 I just can't do it.

Same here, they would be awesome trucks, so light and responsive. And the way theeves turn what a combo

Too bad they're $150 like you said, that's a bit much but seems like a good investment if you really dig theeves[\b]

I haven't had a set of theeves since the v1's when they looked like Ace/Thunder and they Made the bottom bones look like a pancake in like 3 weeks.



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« Reply #1981 on: February 04, 2017, 05:56:48 PM »
ACEs are heavy, no doubt ;)

Riding some TIh 8.18" on an 8.38 (has a nice taper so all good) and some broken in bones meds (bot) soft (tops).

As easy to carve as ace but nice and light and snappier to center for better stability. no problems grinding anything yet.
i want a set of tih's so badly for over $150 I just can't do it.

Same here, they would be awesome trucks, so light and responsive. And the way theeves turn what a combo

Too bad they're $150 like you said, that's a bit much but seems like a good investment if you really dig theeves[\b]

I haven't had a set of theeves since the v1's when they looked like Ace/Thunder and they Made the bottom bones look like a pancake in like 3 weeks.




I wish they kept that design but the new v3 shape is still nice. I got on the theeve train when they had all those commercials with Garrett hill and his Nollie grinds and Jordan hoffart with his tiax trucks

I was really bought on their whole "titanium truck" gig and they were good trucks but flaws slowly got me off them but the v3's are actually "probably the best truck" cause that true turn, idk what it is but that true turn feel is nice, it adds an edge of good response rather falling to good turn but bad stability turning into bad response

But that's just me

Like NL said , ride what you like, get use to it and hit that sweet spot when it becomes your truck and you'll just love skating. I'm trying to figure out if I like thunder, theeve or royals.

Thunders are good and reliable, theeves are so cool, but I feel my personality and style is royals...

Man I'm lame

And knowing Jerry Hsu is on Royal doing my favorite trick I can do(front foot impossible) makes me lean more towards royals so I can be just like Jerry like I always wanted to
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« Reply #1982 on: February 05, 2017, 12:22:27 AM »
Didn't think Jerry regularly rode royals or did front foot impossibles......

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« Reply #1983 on: February 05, 2017, 11:51:01 AM »
ACEs are heavy, no doubt ;)

Riding some TIh 8.18" on an 8.38 (has a nice taper so all good) and some broken in bones meds (bot) soft (tops).

As easy to carve as ace but nice and light and snappier to center for better stability. no problems grinding anything yet.
i want a set of tih's so badly for over $150 I just can't do it.

Same here, they would be awesome trucks, so light and responsive. And the way theeves turn what a combo

Too bad they're $150 like you said, that's a bit much but seems like a good investment if you really dig theeves[\b]

I haven't had a set of theeves since the v1's when they looked like Ace/Thunder and they Made the bottom bones look like a pancake in like 3 weeks.




I rode V1/V2 and never had bones bushing blowout.

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« Reply #1984 on: February 05, 2017, 01:17:30 PM »
ACEs are heavy, no doubt ;)

Riding some TIh 8.18" on an 8.38 (has a nice taper so all good) and some broken in bones meds (bot) soft (tops).

As easy to carve as ace but nice and light and snappier to center for better stability. no problems grinding anything yet.
i want a set of tih's so badly for over $150 I just can't do it.

Same here, they would be awesome trucks, so light and responsive. And the way theeves turn what a combo

Too bad they're $150 like you said, that's a bit much but seems like a good investment if you really dig theeves[\b]

I haven't had a set of theeves since the v1's when they looked like Ace/Thunder and they Made the bottom bones look like a pancake in like 3 weeks.




I rode V1/V2 and never had bones bushing blowout.

I really liked my theeve V2's up until I started getting that bottom bushing buldge (in 2 different sets of bushings) which didn't really bother me at first but the aesthetic was throwing me off after a while and at the time I was really into trying different trucks so I eventually strayed, but I'd love to skate some V3's. I want to grind my thunders down to the axel first but I'll probably pick up some tikings for my next set of trucks. I would've tried the TiHangers by now but that price tag and reports of it not grinding as well on angle iron have kept me from doing so. Theeve is legit tho. Only other truck company I'd skate outside of the big 3

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1985 on: February 06, 2017, 11:39:27 AM »
ACEs are heavy, no doubt ;)

Riding some TIh 8.18" on an 8.38 (has a nice taper so all good) and some broken in bones meds (bot) soft (tops).

As easy to carve as ace but nice and light and snappier to center for better stability. no problems grinding anything yet.
i want a set of tih's so badly for over $150 I just can't do it.

Same here, they would be awesome trucks, so light and responsive. And the way theeves turn what a combo

Too bad they're $150 like you said, that's a bit much but seems like a good investment if you really dig theeves[\b]

I haven't had a set of theeves since the v1's when they looked like Ace/Thunder and they Made the bottom bones look like a pancake in like 3 weeks.



How are the v3's compared to Indys?
I rode V1/V2 and never had bones bushing blowout.

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« Reply #1986 on: February 08, 2017, 12:14:11 AM »
ACEs are heavy, no doubt ;)

Riding some TIh 8.18" on an 8.38 (has a nice taper so all good) and some broken in bones meds (bot) soft (tops).

As easy to carve as ace but nice and light and snappier to center for better stability. no problems grinding anything yet.
i want a set of tih's so badly for over $150 I just can't do it.

Same here, they would be awesome trucks, so light and responsive. And the way theeves turn what a combo

Too bad they're $150 like you said, that's a bit much but seems like a good investment if you really dig theeves[\b]

I haven't had a set of theeves since the v1's when they looked like Ace/Thunder and they Made the bottom bones look like a pancake in like 3 weeks.



How are the v3's compared to Indys?
I rode V1/V2 and never had bones bushing blowout.

since no one is answering and i have an update to my kookness

theeve v3 compared to indys i cant really use analogy or whatever but this is what im getting

theeve v3 turn precisely, its like if thunders were less tight ish and turned deep and sharp is how i would say the feeling is. they respond well and turn how you want when you want right away

indys turn smoother and deep and carve nice but response is kinda slow, slow but smooth. response is eh, its a very board feel kind of response. like if your being lazy so is your response on the trucks.

im actually back on the thunders cause the theeves were fun and nice but too sharp for me to handle, i needed my super stable but responsive thunders. also my tre flips feel better on thunders cause idk what it is but the geometry makes them flip more controlled and under me rather than like out and away(had tre flips like this with theeve and indys).

i wanna see those indy mids so bad, i really hope theyre really responsive like thunders but with an indy feel. that would be cool.
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« Reply #1987 on: February 08, 2017, 12:36:30 AM »
^What are those mid indys you keep talking about, like forged hollows or even more low?
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« Reply #1988 on: February 08, 2017, 01:07:14 AM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=88869.msg2607020#msg2607020 date=1486542990
^What are those mid indys you keep talking about, like forged hollows or even more low?

They're supposed to be I think ace height/ thunder 149 height/ forged hollow stage 11 standard height but standard cast not forged

it'll be the height of the old stage 10 standard but the turning and feel of a regular high stage 11 Indy
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« Reply #1989 on: February 08, 2017, 02:12:27 AM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=88869.msg2607020#msg2607020 date=1486542990
^What are those mid indys you keep talking about, like forged hollows or even more low?

They're supposed to be I think ace height/ thunder 149 height/ forged hollow stage 11 standard height but standard cast not forged

it'll be the height of the old stage 10 standard but the turning and feel of a regular high stage 11 Indy
Sounds good to me, even tho i didn't notice that much difference when changing from stage10 -> 11's. When these are coming out?
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« Reply #1990 on: February 08, 2017, 04:26:32 AM »
Got some Thunder team trucks. I kept the bottom bushings on, took off the washers. Top bushings off an old set, which are soft - washer on the front truck only. Habing that said, the back front truck is pretty loose; it wiggles freely just a bit. The back truck is a few turns tighter, but still loose. It's really sensitive; I get into turns quick with the front truck, and keep the carve stable with the back. So much fun to cruise and get speeds just out of zigzagging. Never really got to other trucks, but Thunders always did the job.

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« Reply #1991 on: February 08, 2017, 09:00:19 PM »
Does anyone know where I can still get a set of Venture 5.5s?  I love the feel of Ventures, and am too much in my head about 8.25 trucks, but I can't find them anywhere.

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« Reply #1992 on: February 08, 2017, 11:31:32 PM »
For people asking:

Standard Indys are 55mm.
Low Indys are 48.5mm
The hollows are a "mid" height at 53.5mm

Back to an issue addressed in the first few pages of this thread; Thunder Trucks and Bones Bushing. I've been riding Indy Hollow 149 Mid height 53.5 with black (hard) Bones bushing for a looong time. I recently decided to try Thunders, and tonight I set up a pair of 147 Hollow Lights  (w/black Bones bushing). They height difference between Indys and Thunders had a big impact on the bushings. When I got the trucks tightened to how I normally like them, the nylon on the kingpin nut (which is what holds in place) was not fully down onto the kingpin threads. As a result, the nut kept coming loose. Eventually I cranked the nut down enough so it would stay on my kingpin. Now the problem was that my trucks were too tight. I'm going to try either a soft Bones bushing (e.g. so i can get nut on all the way), or sand down the black Bones bushings. 

   

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1993 on: February 09, 2017, 12:36:58 AM »
For people asking:

Standard Indys are 55mm.
Low Indys are 48.5mm
The hollows are a "mid" height at 53.5mm

Back to an issue addressed in the first few pages of this thread; Thunder Trucks and Bones Bushing. I've been riding Indy Hollow 149 Mid height 53.5 with black (hard) Bones bushing for a looong time. I recently decided to try Thunders, and tonight I set up a pair of 147 Hollow Lights  (w/black Bones bushing). They height difference between Indys and Thunders had a big impact on the bushings. When I got the trucks tightened to how I normally like them, the nylon on the kingpin nut (which is what holds in place) was not fully down onto the kingpin threads. As a result, the nut kept coming loose. Eventually I cranked the nut down enough so it would stay on my kingpin. Now the problem was that my trucks were too tight. I'm going to try either a soft Bones bushing (e.g. so i can get nut on all the way), or sand down the black Bones bushings. 

   



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« Reply #1994 on: February 09, 2017, 01:33:17 AM »
^ I was toying with idea that, too.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #1995 on: February 12, 2017, 03:14:28 PM »
has anyone tried indy bushings in ace trucks?



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« Reply #1996 on: February 13, 2017, 09:08:47 AM »
has anyone tried indy bushings in ace trucks?

Stock indys work ok, they're a bit short, aftermarket are even shorter than ACE bottoms.

ACE bushings are tall all around tops and bottoms. Better to get some krux bushings, they fit perfectly.

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« Reply #1997 on: February 13, 2017, 02:40:04 PM »
has anyone tried indy bushings in ace trucks?

I have Standard Cylinder Bottom's on mine. It really makes a difference cause Ace Bushing's is just too damn hard.

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« Reply #1998 on: February 14, 2017, 10:26:36 PM »
has anyone tried indy bushings in ace trucks?

I have Standard Cylinder Bottom's on mine. It really makes a difference cause Ace Bushing's is just too damn hard.

For real...so damn hard - the break in struggle is real so I always swap them out.

Setup the Tih with bones meds/soft tops and the riptide cups, so good effortless in tranny, like broken in aces - sticking with them until those 144s come out.

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« Reply #1999 on: February 14, 2017, 10:39:40 PM »
if anyone wants a pair of theeve TiH trucks i have 2 pairs slightly used i could cut you a deal. I think 8.25 and 8.0 wide.
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« Reply #2000 on: February 15, 2017, 01:37:28 PM »
Anyone have any info that which truck has the tightest turning radius, thunder?

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« Reply #2001 on: February 15, 2017, 03:14:58 PM »
Probably Thunders. Very sharp, responsive turning that's great for street and coming at obstacles at weird angles. I've skated Indy's, Ventures, & Theeves as well. Thunder probably turn the sharpest with theeve being second in my experience

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« Reply #2002 on: February 15, 2017, 03:27:31 PM »
Decided to finally try a set of trucks that aren't indys and picked up some of the 149 thunders.

Any bushing tips on these? I though I saw in one of these pages that the stock thunder bushings were mostly ok.

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« Reply #2003 on: February 15, 2017, 03:32:21 PM »
Yeah stock bushings are best for thunders, if you wanna mess around with durometers get the thunder bushing kits.

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« Reply #2005 on: February 15, 2017, 04:21:33 PM »
Decided to finally try a set of trucks that aren't indys and picked up some of the 149 thunders.

Any bushing tips on these? I though I saw in one of these pages that the stock thunder bushings were mostly ok.

I just went the same route recently, that is standard thunder 149's instead of independent. The standard clear yellow bushings were pretty good I've also used the white which have a little bit more rebound. I tried a set of Bones hard cores, blew them out of one session, went back to standard Thunder after that.

I've got some thunder 151s coming to set up a larger bowl/transition board.

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« Reply #2006 on: February 15, 2017, 04:23:30 PM »
Decided to finally try a set of trucks that aren't indys and picked up some of the 149 thunders.

Any bushing tips on these? I though I saw in one of these pages that the stock thunder bushings were mostly ok.
I was in your boat six months back and the advice I got on here was:
DON'T touch them (the bushings) for the first 3 sesssions just ride them out. It's going to suck but once they break in you're free to tighten them down (they will be a lot harder at this point too cuz I know they feel mushy fresh out of the box). Worked like a dream
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« Reply #2007 on: February 15, 2017, 05:32:11 PM »
Awesome, thanks for the tips!

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« Reply #2008 on: February 15, 2017, 06:46:09 PM »
Decided to finally try a set of trucks that aren't indys and picked up some of the 149 thunders.

Any bushing tips on these? I though I saw in one of these pages that the stock thunder bushings were mostly ok.
I was in your boat six months back and the advice I got on here was:
DON'T touch them (the bushings) for the first 3 sesssions just ride them out. It's going to suck but once they break in you're free to tighten them down (they will be a lot harder at this point too cuz I know they feel mushy fresh out of the box). Worked like a dream


i recently got some 149s with the white bushings. i began to ride em and tightened them the first session.. i was on the 95 blue duro bushings on my last setup and wanted the same results.. it felt soooo off having 90duro bushings cranked down that i just said fuck it and bought a set of the thunder aftermarket blue ones
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« Reply #2009 on: February 16, 2017, 01:11:47 PM »
bit the bullet and ordered some of those riptide pivot cups, any PALs wanna give me a quick lodown on the performance?