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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2190 on: April 16, 2017, 05:14:12 PM »
About indy stage xi:
1) is this true that the "new geometry " is based on stage v - vii geometry?
2) anyone have what the difference on geometry from stage x to Xi actually is?


No one really knows for sure but that is what Indy told everyone - the biggest and most noticeable is the wider hanger cavity that prevents the top washer and hanger from binding like it did on the Stage Xs, and that they're taller.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2191 on: April 16, 2017, 07:55:44 PM »
About indy stage xi:
1) is this true that the "new geometry " is based on stage v - vii geometry?
2) anyone have what the difference on geometry from stage x to Xi actually is?

Deeper turns for sure.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2192 on: April 17, 2017, 09:20:06 AM »
hollow shockpads...i invented that today, discuss crazy bat shits ! ;)

i'm serious, had some home made shockpads made out of thick inner tube , and i cut out the middle part of it in the width, so now i have 4 lil band of rubber, 2 per truck, welcome to the future !

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2193 on: April 17, 2017, 10:00:34 AM »
indy 159 titanium hangar on a standard cast baseplate, with aftermarket orange (med) Indy conical bushings. 

set up on an 8.5 with 53-54mm wheels. 

feels just like skating an 8.25 on 149s (titanium forged) with 52-53mm wheels...

...other than the lack of stiffness/deadness that the forged baseplates give your board. 
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« Reply #2194 on: April 18, 2017, 09:14:59 AM »

...other than the lack of stiffness/deadness that the forged baseplates give your board. 

Been looking around for a standard cast baseplate for my hollow 159's for this exact reason. I'd like the extra clearance too.

Might just bite the bullet and buy a standard set of 159s and keep the hangars on ice.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2195 on: April 18, 2017, 05:00:47 PM »
Been riding an 8" with Indy 139 lows and 52mm 83B stupid hard wheels that are completely useless on asphalt.
Thinking about setting up a new complete with a fatter board because I'm old and fat.  I wanna try thunders and I'm gonna try an 8.5 deck, which has me looking at 149's.  

Just wanna confirm that 149's work fine with an 8.5, as I may not be able to hang and might eventually go town to an 8.38 or so.
Also, I put some 149 thunders and 149 indies next  to my trucks at the shop and The  axle height on the thunders seems to be right in between my Indy 139 low and the 149 hi.  Bearing in mind that I hate risers, what's  the biggest wheel I  can rock on the thunder 149 without constant wheelbite?

I'm sure most of these answers are contained in this thread, but it's a fucking brain boiler so I had to stop reading.

Edit for one more question: are the weight savings from the Thunder lights/hollows/titaniums in any way actually perceptible while skating?  Seems like you're only saving a few grams for a pretty big price increase and I'm wondering if my feet would ever notice.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2196 on: April 18, 2017, 05:11:09 PM »
149s work fine on 8.5, might want to chuck a 1/4" riser on them if you want same height as indy tho
watch out for wheelbase on that 8.5 because (as this thread told me that) thunders give you the longer wheelbase than other trucks. I stuck them on a 32.88/ 14.75 deck and for a month it felt like a longboard :o

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« Reply #2197 on: April 18, 2017, 05:57:57 PM »
I have an 8 and an 8.5....but if someone stole all my shit......id buy Indy 144's and skate an 8.25.

The 8.5 is a bit wide....on a bad day I'll blame my board is too big.....


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2198 on: April 18, 2017, 07:27:03 PM »
Thanks dudes.  If I'm set on the 149 thunders, stock bushings, no risers, what's my max wheel size?

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« Reply #2199 on: April 18, 2017, 07:38:33 PM »
but if someone stole all my shit......id  skate an 8.25.
have a feeling it really is the sweet spot

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2200 on: April 18, 2017, 09:14:07 PM »
Thanks dudes.  If I'm set on the 149 thunders, stock bushings, no risers, what's my max wheel size?

For thunder 149 id say 55/56 but really more like 55
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« Reply #2201 on: April 19, 2017, 08:33:15 AM »
i need risers on 54mm with thunder but i don't mind as I think the riser enhances their turn.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2202 on: April 19, 2017, 09:24:52 AM »
53mm max on thunders, unless you ride tight and/or use risers and don't plan on carving deep.

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« Reply #2203 on: April 19, 2017, 09:45:17 AM »
53 or smaller is ideal. You can get away with 54's if you don't mind getting wheelbite or as others have said, skate tight trucks or use risers.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2204 on: April 19, 2017, 09:49:22 AM »
54 with hollow shockpads  ::)

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« Reply #2205 on: April 19, 2017, 02:15:43 PM »
I've never broken a kingpin but I'm thinking of trying an inverted kingpin. Any SLAP pals have suggestions on the most effective and easy way to knock out kingpins quickly? Is a vice grip the best option for holding the baseplate nice and good?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2206 on: April 19, 2017, 02:19:07 PM »
I've never broken a kingpin but I'm thinking of trying an inverted kingpin. Any SLAP pals have suggestions on the most effective and easy way to knock out kingpins quickly? Is a vice grip the best option for holding the baseplate nice and good?
You can do it on grass but its kinda dirty, between two bricks or pieces of wood, just whatver with gap in the centre that will stand the weight of hammering it out

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« Reply #2207 on: April 19, 2017, 02:20:33 PM »
Broke my front indie on the hanger after 2 years of riding them and axle being almost visible. I bought some new indies stage 11, combined with white Doh Dohs and its the first time I dont find new trucks frustrating, I was comfortable since day one.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2208 on: April 19, 2017, 06:24:45 PM »
I've never broken a kingpin but I'm thinking of trying an inverted kingpin. Any SLAP pals have suggestions on the most effective and easy way to knock out kingpins quickly? Is a vice grip the best option for holding the baseplate nice and good?
You can do it on grass but its kinda dirty, between two bricks or pieces of wood, just whatver with gap in the centre that will stand the weight of hammering it out

Hammer and a parking block with a good bit of space in the rebar hole. Hold the pin over the hole with your foot, don't miss.

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« Reply #2209 on: April 19, 2017, 07:47:54 PM »
Yah the brick with the hole works good....

Which kingpin you looking at.  I have some old gullwing ones....problem is the nut spins....any advice on this?  How do the krux ones resolve this?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2210 on: April 19, 2017, 08:12:18 PM »
About indy stage xi:
1) is this true that the "new geometry " is based on stage v - vii geometry?
2) anyone have what the difference on geometry from stage x to Xi actually is?

Deeper turns for sure.

How's would you rate stage xi vs the mighty stage vii?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2211 on: April 19, 2017, 09:15:03 PM »
About indy stage xi:
1) is this true that the "new geometry " is based on stage v - vii geometry?
2) anyone have what the difference on geometry from stage x to Xi actually is?

Deeper turns for sure.

How's would you rate stage xi vs the mighty stage vii?

Man, Back during the stage 7 days I was riding my trucks way too tight.... so its a hard comparison. i will say this, Stage 8 and 9 were pretty bad. 10 started to get better and 11s are really good again. I will say 11s are going to be lighter with more kingpin clearance than 7s.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2212 on: April 20, 2017, 07:03:59 AM »
Yah the brick with the hole works good....

Which kingpin you looking at.  I have some old gullwing ones....problem is the nut spins....any advice on this?  How do the krux ones resolve this?

I'll be trying the krux kingpin and jam some Steelstik epoxy puddy up in there to keep the nut from spinning.

About indy stage xi:
1) is this true that the "new geometry " is based on stage v - vii geometry?
2) anyone have what the difference on geometry from stage x to Xi actually is?

Deeper turns for sure.

How's would you rate stage xi vs the mighty stage vii?

Man, Back during the stage 7 days I was riding my trucks way too tight.... so its a hard comparison. i will say this, Stage 8 and 9 were pretty bad. 10 started to get better and 11s are really good again. I will say 11s are going to be lighter with more kingpin clearance than 7s.

I have stage 7's. The turn is amazing, I would say identical to Ace. Incredibly responsive and snappy, and that's using the OG stock orange bushings they came with in the 90s. Hardly any wheelbite riding them super loose with 54mm wheels. I've read people saying stage 7's had bad axle slip, but I've landed primo quite a few times and they've been fine. The kingpin sits a little high compared to stage 11 but I never touch it and I've already ground the hanger down pretty good. In my opinion, stage 7 beats 11 all day long. I haven't tried any other stages besides those two, so I can't speak on others' performance.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2213 on: April 20, 2017, 10:41:00 AM »
Has anyone tried Indy pivot cups in cast thunder plates? Are they pretty much the same as the stock Thunder ones?
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« Reply #2214 on: April 20, 2017, 11:41:57 AM »
Has anyone tried Indy pivot cups in cast thunder plates? Are they pretty much the same as the stock Thunder ones?
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« Reply #2215 on: April 20, 2017, 11:33:09 PM »
Do any of you guys (and if so would you admit it) have your trucks tight enough that if try to stand on your toes the board will go up on two wheels before it gets wheelbite?


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2216 on: April 21, 2017, 03:12:09 AM »
Do any of you guys (and if so would you admit it) have your trucks tight enough that if try to stand on your toes the board will go up on two wheels before it gets wheelbite?




Haha guilty, but my trucks are more medium than tight I would say cause you can still get a good turn not a great turn

I ride not crazy loose like all the cool people cause I like easily popping my board super high up like it has springs
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2217 on: April 21, 2017, 02:29:22 PM »
Yeah it feels horrible fooling around in my driveway, but at the park in the bowl where I'm going faster I think it might be helping.

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« Reply #2218 on: April 22, 2017, 12:34:29 PM »
What durometer are the Indy stock bushings? 90a?
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« Reply #2219 on: April 22, 2017, 01:02:14 PM »
What durometer are the Indy stock bushings? 90a?

They're 88a super kush, but the aftermarket are supposed to be Harder and more stable 90a
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