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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2250 on: May 17, 2017, 08:12:56 AM »
I've been skating 149 stage 11 Indy's with stock bushings, only a few turns more than the kingpin nut flush and they've been performing as if I threw some aftermarket bushings of some kind in them. The turn feels just as snappy and responsive as Ace or stage 7 Indy's. My brain is now melted and I have no idea what is real anymore.

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« Reply #2251 on: May 19, 2017, 07:16:31 AM »
I gotta say Aces are the funnest trucks for carving around on........back down the rabbit hole you go!  With age I've accepted that tinkering and setting shit up just to take em apart is a good alternative to getting wrecked.....I've always made fun of gear head types in cycling who basically don't ride....but now I get it....skate shit for the most part is cheap and I always hook up kids who need it with my old stuff....

Hope you find a way to get stoked on skating somehow....I spent a winter in my late 30's skating a two foot quarter in my garage...building up a quiver and it was the best.....

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« Reply #2252 on: May 19, 2017, 07:23:04 AM »
I bought 148 thunders. I don't even really like thunders.
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« Reply #2253 on: May 19, 2017, 08:07:10 AM »
If anyone wants to know the illustrious Rob of the truck setup threads setup and why he's been gone and doesn't need to go psychos on these threads anymore is, if you want the turn of an Indy but the control of thunder 147 this is what I've been riding with utter happiness and sanity

Independent 139 low+1/8 risers/shock pads(pick your favorite)

You get the height and lower center of gravity control like a thunder 147 hi almost but the zippy carvy turn of an Indy

And don't ask why use risers with a low it's as contradicting as using riders on a high. Just why do you need to add more height to a truck that's already high. How loose would you be riding to need that clearance. Mainly talking about trucks 53mm tall and up
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« Reply #2254 on: May 19, 2017, 08:34:21 AM »
I gotta say Aces are the funnest trucks for carving around on........back down the rabbit hole you go!  With age I've accepted that tinkering and setting shit up just to take em apart is a good alternative to getting wrecked.....I've always made fun of gear head types in cycling who basically don't ride....but now I get it....skate shit for the most part is cheap and I always hook up kids who need it with my old stuff....

Hope you find a way to get stoked on skating somehow....I spent a winter in my late 30's skating a two foot quarter in my garage...building up a quiver and it was the best.....

With you on that. It wasn't until I hit middle age that I cared. Until then it was the same old 149s... Could be worse, could be lycra or sports cars... 42 next week, treating myself to a new board and putting on some pre-broken in 44s.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2255 on: May 19, 2017, 11:40:24 AM »
If anyone wants to know the illustrious Rob of the truck setup threads setup and why he's been gone and doesn't need to go psychos on these threads anymore is, if you want the turn of an Indy but the control of thunder 147 this is what I've been riding with utter happiness and sanity

Independent 139 low+1/8 risers/shock pads(pick your favorite)

You get the height and lower center of gravity control like a thunder 147 hi almost but the zippy carvy turn of an Indy

And don't ask why use risers with a low it's as contradicting as using riders on a high. Just why do you need to add more height to a truck that's already high. How loose would you be riding to need that clearance. Mainly talking about trucks 53mm tall and up

Low trucks have slightly different geometry - their turn is different than highs.

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« Reply #2256 on: May 19, 2017, 09:23:26 PM »
If anyone wants to know the illustrious Rob of the truck setup threads setup and why he's been gone and doesn't need to go psychos on these threads anymore is, if you want the turn of an Indy but the control of thunder 147 this is what I've been riding with utter happiness and sanity

Independent 139 low+1/8 risers/shock pads(pick your favorite)

You get the height and lower center of gravity control like a thunder 147 hi almost but the zippy carvy turn of an Indy

And don't ask why use risers with a low it's as contradicting as using riders on a high. Just why do you need to add more height to a truck that's already high. How loose would you be riding to need that clearance. Mainly talking about trucks 53mm tall and up

Low trucks have slightly different geometry - their turn is different than highs.

Somewhat true because when it comes to Indy They have it down with their signature geo so they know how to apply the same Indy carve on a low with these awesome stage 11 lows I got.

Ace high and low definitely do have this difference but thunders and Indy low or high have this turn that's easy to tell what they are out of other trucks.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2257 on: May 20, 2017, 01:03:02 AM »
If anyone wants to know the illustrious Rob of the truck setup threads setup and why he's been gone and doesn't need to go psychos on these threads anymore is, if you want the turn of an Indy but the control of thunder 147 this is what I've been riding with utter happiness and sanity

Independent 139 low+1/8 risers/shock pads(pick your favorite)

You get the height and lower center of gravity control like a thunder 147 hi almost but the zippy carvy turn of an Indy

And don't ask why use risers with a low it's as contradicting as using riders on a high. Just why do you need to add more height to a truck that's already high. How loose would you be riding to need that clearance. Mainly talking about trucks 53mm tall and up

Low trucks have slightly different geometry - their turn is different than highs.

Somewhat true because when it comes to Indy They have it down with their signature geo so they know how to apply the same Indy carve on a low with these awesome stage 11 lows I got.

Ace high and low definitely do have this difference but thunders and Indy low or high have this turn that's easy to tell what they are out of other trucks.

Good for you that low indys worked, I tried everything with mine but ended up setting up standard height indys after few months...those things just don't turn enough for my preferences. I think I'm gonna try those forged ones next when my current set is dead.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2258 on: May 22, 2017, 12:09:34 PM »


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« Reply #2259 on: May 22, 2017, 07:06:23 PM »
does anyone else ride their front and back trucks setup exactly the same?

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« Reply #2260 on: May 22, 2017, 08:57:18 PM »
does anyone else ride their front and back trucks setup exactly the same?

I tried, but If I make my front truck as tight as my back, it feels too stiff.. If the back's the same as the front it feels too wobbly.. There's gotta be a sweet balance spot.

I like the idea of identical trucks, but I'm too set in the old "back-truck-a-turn-or-two-tighter" ways.

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« Reply #2261 on: May 22, 2017, 11:24:22 PM »
It's not a bad idea and I know it messes with the grooves....but lately because I've had a bad case of boom-a-board...I've considered alternating to balance it out....

Any pointers on resolving the incessantly turning board?  I think it's due to wheel bite on the front toe corner.....my goal for 2017 is to study it more carefully and try and resolve it...

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« Reply #2262 on: May 23, 2017, 08:38:35 AM »
does anyone else ride their front and back trucks setup exactly the same?

Right here buddy, I have the truck OCD if my trucks are different tightness it throws me off cause I wanna be able to ride my board frontward or backwards without a problem. Its like this for me since I started where I thought if I learn more tricks and my board is flipping around and spinning back and forth I don't wanna think about how my front trucks looseness is gonna effect me when my board is backwards if I'm in fakie or whatever my mind wants to believe
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« Reply #2263 on: May 26, 2017, 02:41:43 PM »
It's not a bad idea and I know it messes with the grooves....but lately because I've had a bad case of boom-a-board...I've considered alternating to balance it out....

Any pointers on resolving the incessantly turning board?  I think it's due to wheel bite on the front toe corner.....my goal for 2017 is to study it more carefully and try and resolve it...

Man this sucks! My current setup is awful with this issue. Keeps turning the opposite way I want it to turn. I always like a little turning bias towards my frontside and since I set this new board up it always turns towards backside, even if I step on the trucks to correct it. I blame a shitty, misaligned drill job on the board. It is always either this or a bent axle that's causing the turning.
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« Reply #2264 on: May 27, 2017, 07:34:41 AM »
I always thought it was bushings so I'd loosen them up and tighten them again.....I'm considering riding softer just because maybe they are less inclined to get stuck....

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« Reply #2265 on: May 27, 2017, 10:27:40 PM »
I always thought it was bushings so I'd loosen them up and tighten them again.....I'm considering riding softer just because maybe they are less inclined to get stuck....

That worked for me.

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« Reply #2266 on: May 28, 2017, 07:42:28 AM »
I bought those $200 kook trucks......my other theory which is prolly wrong is if you skate race reds you won't have axel slip because you can tighten everything down.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2267 on: May 28, 2017, 08:02:21 AM »
It's not a bad idea and I know it messes with the grooves....but lately because I've had a bad case of boom-a-board...I've considered alternating to balance it out....

Any pointers on resolving the incessantly turning board?  I think it's due to wheel bite on the front toe corner.....my goal for 2017 is to study it more carefully and try and resolve it...

Man this sucks! My current setup is awful with this issue. Keeps turning the opposite way I want it to turn. I always like a little turning bias towards my frontside and since I set this new board up it always turns towards backside, even if I step on the trucks to correct it. I blame a shitty, misaligned drill job on the board. It is always either this or a bent axle that's causing the turning.
Boomerang board? I kind of dig it when I'm skating alone since my board just comes back at me whenever I shoot out on a miscalculation. If anyone knows for sure how to fix this, I'd like to know.

I also would look at uneven wheel wear being a factor, too.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2268 on: May 28, 2017, 09:12:10 AM »
does anyone else ride their front and back trucks setup exactly the same?
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« Reply #2269 on: May 28, 2017, 01:06:53 PM »
It's not a bad idea and I know it messes with the grooves....but lately because I've had a bad case of boom-a-board...I've considered alternating to balance it out....

Any pointers on resolving the incessantly turning board?  I think it's due to wheel bite on the front toe corner.....my goal for 2017 is to study it more carefully and try and resolve it...

Man this sucks! My current setup is awful with this issue. Keeps turning the opposite way I want it to turn. I always like a little turning bias towards my frontside and since I set this new board up it always turns towards backside, even if I step on the trucks to correct it. I blame a shitty, misaligned drill job on the board. It is always either this or a bent axle that's causing the turning.
Boomerang board? I kind of dig it when I'm skating alone since my board just comes back at me whenever I shoot out on a miscalculation. If anyone knows for sure how to fix this, I'd like to know.

I also would look at uneven wheel wear being a factor, too.

Haha does it do a full circle when it comes back? Sounds like a serious case. Wheels wearing uneven can definitely cause the board to turn. I am about to set a new deck soon so will see if its my trucks having issues or if the holes on the board were drilled a bit of. Also, has anyone experienced baseplates with misaligned holes? I once had a set where one of the hangers was longer on one side and also a set where the bolts on one plate were closer to the edge (towards the pivot cup side)
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2270 on: May 28, 2017, 05:36:43 PM »
It's not a bad idea and I know it messes with the grooves....but lately because I've had a bad case of boom-a-board...I've considered alternating to balance it out....

Any pointers on resolving the incessantly turning board?  I think it's due to wheel bite on the front toe corner.....my goal for 2017 is to study it more carefully and try and resolve it...

Man this sucks! My current setup is awful with this issue. Keeps turning the opposite way I want it to turn. I always like a little turning bias towards my frontside and since I set this new board up it always turns towards backside, even if I step on the trucks to correct it. I blame a shitty, misaligned drill job on the board. It is always either this or a bent axle that's causing the turning.
Boomerang board? I kind of dig it when I'm skating alone since my board just comes back at me whenever I shoot out on a miscalculation. If anyone knows for sure how to fix this, I'd like to know.

I also would look at uneven wheel wear being a factor, too.

Haha does it do a full circle when it comes back? Sounds like a serious case. Wheels wearing uneven can definitely cause the board to turn. I am about to set a new deck soon so will see if its my trucks having issues or if the holes on the board were drilled a bit of. Also, has anyone experienced baseplates with misaligned holes? I once had a set where one of the hangers was longer on one side and also a set where the bolts on one plate were closer to the edge (towards the pivot cup side)


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2271 on: May 28, 2017, 07:44:59 PM »
I have to ride my front truck looser than the back truck.

It feels weird when riding the board backwards but I basically only do that for shove-its and I prefer to land on a board going forwards with those.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2272 on: May 29, 2017, 12:04:48 AM »
does anyone else ride their front and back trucks setup exactly the same?
This has me tempted me to buy a twin tail and new trucks to keep stock. Just to see what happens
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« Reply #2273 on: May 29, 2017, 12:18:05 AM »
does anyone else ride their front and back trucks setup exactly the same?
This has me tempted me to buy a twin tail and new trucks to keep stock. Just to see what happens

ha man i tried to ride the new thunder 148's stock (my old trucks were thunder 149 with the 94duro bushings) so the 90 duro stock bushing with a new pivot cup was wheel bite galore!

my point is if you're riding harder bushings than 90 duro (which i know stock thunders and indy's are 90 duro) its gonna be reallllllyyy looose
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« Reply #2274 on: May 29, 2017, 02:50:33 PM »
does anyone else ride their front and back trucks setup exactly the same?
This has me tempted me to buy a twin tail and new trucks to keep stock. Just to see what happens

ha man i tried to ride the new thunder 148's stock (my old trucks were thunder 149 with the 94duro bushings) so the 90 duro stock bushing with a new pivot cup was wheel bite galore!

my point is if you're riding harder bushings than 90 duro (which i know stock thunders and indy's are 90 duro) its gonna be reallllllyyy looose

Were they the white or clear yellows? The white ones always feel much softer than the yellows to me (even if they are supposedly the same duro).

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« Reply #2275 on: May 29, 2017, 07:48:35 PM »
does anyone else ride their front and back trucks setup exactly the same?
This has me tempted me to buy a twin tail and new trucks to keep stock. Just to see what happens

ha man i tried to ride the new thunder 148's stock (my old trucks were thunder 149 with the 94duro bushings) so the 90 duro stock bushing with a new pivot cup was wheel bite galore!

my point is if you're riding harder bushings than 90 duro (which i know stock thunders and indy's are 90 duro) its gonna be reallllllyyy looose

Were they the white or clear yellows? The white ones always feel much softer than the yellows to me (even if they are supposedly the same duro).
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2276 on: May 30, 2017, 08:59:00 AM »
Gotta set of Thunder lights 149s on the way.  The ones with just the hollow king pin and the forge base.

Would no risers, stock bushings, and 52mms cause wheel bite?


 I haven't had Thunders  in forever and heard that wheel bite  pretty prevalent.

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« Reply #2277 on: May 30, 2017, 09:22:45 AM »
^amazing combo in your sig, who's that ?

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« Reply #2278 on: May 30, 2017, 12:34:04 PM »
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« Reply #2279 on: May 30, 2017, 02:29:03 PM »
Gotta set of Thunder lights 149s on the way.  The ones with just the hollow king pin and the forge base.

Would no risers, stock bushings, and 52mms cause wheel bite?


 I haven't had Thunders  in forever and heard that wheel bite  pretty prevalent.
i skate 145s with 53mms and get wheel bite but it's not really a problem. also, 149s are a bit higher than 145s so i'd say you're good