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Jud Nestorkins

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2370 on: June 19, 2017, 07:08:05 PM »
Finally got my 149 thunders, slapped them on and went for a cruise.. My god they're so perfect :o I don't know why I was so adamant about riding indy all this time, I'm a fool! Somehow thunders manage to be quick/nimble, AND stable. The pop is just right. I've found my home.
I couldn't agree more with every word of this if I tried.

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« Reply #2371 on: June 20, 2017, 08:00:16 AM »
I've settled back into Indy. Stage 11 seem pretty good so far, the familiar turning feels like home. Almost safe enough again to buy some "F#*k the rest" gear
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« Reply #2372 on: June 20, 2017, 05:15:21 PM »
I've settled back into Indy. Stage 11 seem pretty good so far, the familiar turning feels like home. Almost safe enough again to buy some "F#*k the rest" gear

Was off the board for close to week due to work so, being off for that long, I switched it up from 8" thunders (soft bones) to 8.25" indys (forged, aftermarket 88a conicals/riptide pivot cups) and fuck it was so comfy - pop was off but the feel was spot on.

I force myself to ride thunders due to the little push in wheelbase, pop [and weight].

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2373 on: June 20, 2017, 05:46:45 PM »
The pop is just right.
you're one of the lucky ones, it took me so long to get used to the delayed (?) pop after riding indys for close to 20+ years

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2374 on: June 20, 2017, 05:57:54 PM »
The pop is just right.
you're one of the lucky ones, it took me so long to get used to the delayed (?) pop after riding indys for close to 20+ years

I'm sure I could've gotten used to it eventually, but:


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2375 on: June 20, 2017, 07:48:51 PM »
I think you're losing your mind rob.
I hope not, can you imagine him in the asylum?
"but nurse, NURSE! I really am just going to stick with indys for the rest of my life"
"sure rob, that's what you said last week too before switched to krux and then back to thunder in a matter of two hours"

Hahahhahaha man you guys are funny, and old reply but I do notice a difference on slides locking in with baseplates that stick out. Makes it super easy to do slide shuv outs

I got the 148 and yeah they're just a slimmer lighter 149, not as bulky and carvy but does flip faster than 149.
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« Reply #2376 on: June 21, 2017, 01:38:14 PM »
With all of the Thunder talk as of late... I am going to go ahead and ask this question... Does anyone else think that some of the wheelbite issues or difficulty to break in Thunder bushings could be solved if Thunders would just come stock with a barrel bottom bushing instead of the conical bottoms they come with? Even a barrel bottom aftermarket that geometrically matches with Thunders would be cool. This has been on my mind for many years now and I just figured I'd see what ya'll think.
   I really think that for a truck that already has a much sharper geometry than Indy, Venture, or Ace (all barrel bottom bushing trucks) that it would make sense for Thunder to have a barrel bottom bushing to off-set the already drastically sharp geometry.
   Somewhere in the Thunder timeline, like pre 2000 they had barrel bottoms...??? :P




Just like putting conicals in indys quicken the turn, putting barrels in thunders slow it down; however, truck and wheel height is still the biggest contributing factor for wheel bite.

Stock thunder bottom bushings are really tall, like ace/krux tall, even bones/indy stock/aftermarkets, with a washer are shorter than stock thunders with a washer. I find leaving them stock is best, even tho the bushings aren't responsive compared to the others.
Yeah man thanks for taking a look at what I wrote and providing some insight. I was legitimately interested to find out if anyone else has ever thought about the benefits that a barrel bottom bushing in Thunders could provide. I know I am probably a minority in this though, but in my mind it would make sense to have a barrel bottom stock or even an aftermarket Thunder branded option...
My main points of reasoning are...
1. Thunders already have a distinct and dynamically more quick/sharp geometry than Indy, Venture, and Ace.
2. Thunders are the lowest standard height of all of above listed brands 52.3ish mm. I'm talking about 149's of course.
3. From my own personal experience/preference, and again maybe I am in the minority opinion with this one... For me it seems that barrel bottoms feel more stable when new than conical bottoms. I believe that decreases the amount of time it takes to break them in and thus gives more time to enjoy your ride.

With all that said, I do really like Thunders. Thunders are a smooth operator. When I skate them I keep the bushings stock and the kingpin nut flush or slightly looser than flush and that seems to give me decent results. I think I would just prefer barrels though. I also think that alot of the people that experience major wheelbite issues, think Thunders are too twitchy, or whatever kind of things I have heard people say about them would benefit if there was a Thunder branded compatible barrel bottom option... I'm not here to complain or ask Deluxe to reinvent the wheel, in this case the bushing or anything. I'm just some dude and Deluxe is Deluxe so I'm sure somewhere there is some reasoning for what they do :)

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« Reply #2377 on: June 21, 2017, 06:44:41 PM »
I guess you can tinker with harder bushings or washers which might change the height......

It's sounds dumb but my thunders went on my miniramp set up and I ride em tight......

I've asked a bunch of people if they have wheelbite problems...and while it is kinda common....part of me thinks its skill related....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2378 on: June 21, 2017, 07:38:49 PM »
I've had these 149 thunders for a while now, flush with the kingpin, never messed with it too much and they are perfection. it did feel weird going from 149 indys to these coz of the height difference. And thinking of trying out the 148s just because

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2379 on: June 21, 2017, 07:50:34 PM »
Bottom barrels on thunders does sound like a good idea, for now I think I'm gonna order up some 95a replacements. The stock sets are a little too soft for me!

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2380 on: June 21, 2017, 09:27:11 PM »
Bottom barrels on thunders does sound like a good idea, for now I think I'm gonna order up some 95a replacements. The stock sets are a little too soft for me!
pretty much magic once you break them in though! Give it 3-4 sessions and then adjust accrodingly

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2381 on: June 21, 2017, 11:19:07 PM »
Hey....um...someone posted up some dirt cheap theeves in the sale thread......

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2382 on: June 22, 2017, 05:53:45 PM »
Bottom barrels on thunders does sound like a good idea, for now I think I'm gonna order up some 95a replacements. The stock sets are a little too soft for me!
pretty much magic once you break them in though! Give it 3-4 sessions and then adjust accrodingly

I just finished swapping in some white bushings from my hollow lights (that are a little more broken in), so I'll give it some more time before I go to the 95's!

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« Reply #2383 on: June 22, 2017, 07:50:23 PM »
Bottom barrels on thunders does sound like a good idea, for now I think I'm gonna order up some 95a replacements. The stock sets are a little too soft for me!
pretty much magic once you break them in though! Give it 3-4 sessions and then adjust accrodingly

I just finished swapping in some white bushings from my hollow lights (that are a little more broken in), so I'll give it some more time before I go to the 95's!

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2384 on: June 22, 2017, 08:05:07 PM »

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2385 on: June 22, 2017, 08:12:25 PM »
Bottom barrels on thunders does sound like a good idea, for now I think I'm gonna order up some 95a replacements. The stock sets are a little too soft for me!
pretty much magic once you break them in though! Give it 3-4 sessions and then adjust accrodingly

I just finished swapping in some white bushings from my hollow lights (that are a little more broken in), so I'll give it some more time before I go to the 95's!

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2386 on: June 23, 2017, 04:13:32 AM »
Bottom barrels on thunders does sound like a good idea, for now I think I'm gonna order up some 95a replacements. The stock sets are a little too soft for me!
pretty much magic once you break them in though! Give it 3-4 sessions and then adjust accrodingly

I just finished swapping in some white bushings from my hollow lights (that are a little more broken in), so I'll give it some more time before I go to the 95's!
the white ones are perfect. Basically the same hardness as the bones mediums I was riding in my old thunders and they turn just as good,but don't feel as floppy. Mush more stable ride but still a super quick turn!

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2387 on: June 23, 2017, 12:51:55 PM »
Does a Krux kingpin in thunder 149s work? I'm sure it's been discussed before but it would be rough sifting through this thread to find where.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2388 on: June 23, 2017, 12:53:48 PM »
Does a Krux kingpin in thunder 149s work? I'm sure it's been discussed before but it would be rough sifting through this thread to find where.

Yup I did that for a while worked perfectly.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2389 on: June 23, 2017, 04:19:45 PM »
Does a Krux kingpin in thunder 149s work? I'm sure it's been discussed before but it would be rough sifting through this thread to find where.

Yes but in cast base plates only

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« Reply #2390 on: June 26, 2017, 08:46:06 AM »
Does a Krux kingpin in thunder 149s work? I'm sure it's been discussed before but it would be rough sifting through this thread to find where.

Yes but in cast base plates only
Damn, I got forged cause that was all my shop had. I honestly might just pick up a set of the 148's and swap out the base plate until I war these out.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2391 on: June 26, 2017, 12:08:13 PM »
Does a Krux kingpin in thunder 149s work? I'm sure it's been discussed before but it would be rough sifting through this thread to find where.

Yes but in cast base plates only
Damn, I got forged cause that was all my shop had. I honestly might just pick up a set of the 148's and swap out the base plate until I war these out.

Not certain, but I'm pretty sure you can still hammer out the kingpin in forged baseplates, just takes a lot more effort.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2392 on: June 26, 2017, 12:53:42 PM »
Does a Krux kingpin in thunder 149s work? I'm sure it's been discussed before but it would be rough sifting through this thread to find where.

Yes but in cast base plates only
Damn, I got forged cause that was all my shop had. I honestly might just pick up a set of the 148's and swap out the base plate until I war these out.

Not certain, but I'm pretty sure you can still hammer out the kingpin in forged baseplates, just takes a lot more effort.

Hammering out the hollowpin in forged thunder plates isn't the issue, the thin nature of the plates is...you see, the kingpin nut won't be recessed enough in the baseplate for the plate to sit flush against the deck (though once you tighten it all down it will after it pushes into to the ply).

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2393 on: June 26, 2017, 11:06:13 PM »
I had to cut down some old gullwing inverted and it wasn't easy and ran into a similar problem....I threw on a washer to fill up the kingpin...rode a thin riser....considered routing out the deck too but got it sorted....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2394 on: June 28, 2017, 12:18:46 PM »
lookin fir some gently used thunder 149s.  see classifieds
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« Reply #2395 on: June 28, 2017, 03:07:17 PM »
lookin fir some gently used thunder 149s.  see classifieds

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« Reply #2396 on: June 28, 2017, 03:35:24 PM »
lookin fir some gently used thunder 149s.  see classifieds

PM'd ya
Watch out, 145's that have been run over by a car are going to show up...
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« Reply #2397 on: June 28, 2017, 06:49:21 PM »
nah. thanks tho xen. 
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2398 on: June 29, 2017, 01:22:20 PM »
Does anyone have or know where I can get the old thunder 149ers? The lower ones that were shaped like the now silver L-class
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« Reply #2399 on: June 29, 2017, 05:41:55 PM »
Does anyone have or know where I can get the old thunder 149ers? The lower ones that were shaped like the now silver L-class


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thunder-149ers-Skateboard-Trucks-/371902787383?hash=item5697222f37:g:kgAAAOSwB-1Y1S-C


but that price is a bit too high for the condition IMO
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