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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2520 on: August 05, 2017, 03:13:44 PM »
how are ventures compared to thunders?

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« Reply #2521 on: August 05, 2017, 04:34:37 PM »
Yeah, I emailed Ace about it. My pivot cups weren't stock either, they were the riptide custom ones that cost me nearly $15 and the first time the pivot hole started getting warped on the actual baseplate and it ripped through the urethane. Riptide was kind enough to send me a pair under warranty, they have amazing customer service and are super friendly, so I highly recommend those pivot cups. But yeah, as far as Ace goes...I'm bummed on walking away from them. If they end up making it right and I get a set that doesn't break I'll change my mind but I'm not getting my hopes up too much. The replacements will still be the same old recycled Chinese aluminum.

I've always had this issue but more likely with the 44's. Also purchased those RipTide Pivot Cups(technically they're bushings too) and they lasted much longer, about a week or so compare to a couple of days as opposed to DLX and Indy Cups(Bushings). The 55's however takes awhile for the stock Pivot Cup Bushings to blowout. Once you've warp that pivot hole on the baseplate. any other pivot cup you put in will be rendered useless and will blow out just as easily. I really love the Ace's turn and feel but if they managed to fix the bending issue on the hanger, pretty sure can work on either getting forged baseplate or a harder duro for their stock pivot bushings than the current duro they're using right now.


Been going back and fort with Ace's and Venture's since they're the same width as far as hanger goes. Venture's are far more stable but feel's lower than Ace. Way more durable too since the pivot cups don't blow out at all. buuuttt the hanger gets worn down just as quick as Ace. The only thing that Venture really bugs me is that it has this Transformer's look to it and i can't shake it off. They're such good trucks, Ace has a nicer look to it which is probably way nicer than any other trucks on the market right now. Feels and Turns great but far from durable.
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« Reply #2522 on: August 05, 2017, 04:55:13 PM »
I missed the pop of Thunder kickflips so my madness has returned. I also believe now that 8.00 and up decks feel more comfy on my old legs. Tried to hold on to 7.5 to 7.75 but I swear the landings make my knees ache and my 8.125 with thunders do not. Anyways ... hello madness my old friend
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« Reply #2523 on: August 05, 2017, 07:49:48 PM »
I missed the pop of Thunder kickflips so my madness has returned. I also believe now that 8.00 and up decks feel more comfy on my old legs. Tried to hold on to 7.5 to 7.75 but I swear the landings make my knees ache and my 8.125 with thunders do not. Anyways ... hello madness my old friend
You go 147s or 148s? I was totally happy with my ventures, still am, but I bought some thunder 148s for no reason. Skating them tomorrow, will probably have them in the classifieds by the evening.
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« Reply #2524 on: August 05, 2017, 09:10:07 PM »
I missed the pop of Thunder kickflips so my madness has returned. I also believe now that 8.00 and up decks feel more comfy on my old legs. Tried to hold on to 7.5 to 7.75 but I swear the landings make my knees ache and my 8.125 with thunders do not. Anyways ... hello madness my old friend
You go 147s or 148s? I was totally happy with my ventures, still am, but I bought some thunder 148s for no reason. Skating them tomorrow, will probably have them in the classifieds by the evening.
Can't wait to NOT skate those thunders tomorrow bruh
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« Reply #2525 on: August 06, 2017, 12:33:23 AM »
I missed the pop of Thunder kickflips so my madness has returned. I also believe now that 8.00 and up decks feel more comfy on my old legs. Tried to hold on to 7.5 to 7.75 but I swear the landings make my knees ache and my 8.125 with thunders do not. Anyways ... hello madness my old friend
You go 147s or 148s? I was totally happy with my ventures, still am, but I bought some thunder 148s for no reason. Skating them tomorrow, will probably have them in the classifieds by the evening.

147 hi. There's something about these. I've been flipping back n forth between ventures and thunders the last year. Then I got some Indus 129 for a 7.81 anti hero. But I kept thinking about my thunders so I'm back
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« Reply #2526 on: August 06, 2017, 09:55:19 PM »
someone at the park last night just told me about thunder 148s. has anyone skated these? and are they high mid or low?

Idk what it is but compared to 149 being the same height the 148 are really weird, they're sorta stable but sorta slim. It's better to stick to the classic 149 or lower height 147 hi.

I've been getting a lot of stuff down with my thunder 147 hi cause they're so quality. Perfect height, response and quick turn. If you want some thing more stable, wider, a Little taller and great response riding an 8.25 and up I suggest 149 over 148 even though 148 are supposed to be perfect for 8.25-8.4 but they just feel odd.

If you ride 7.8-8.25 and want good response, quick turn, and control go for the 147hi but other wise for preference of 8.25 or bigger skip the 148 and go 149.

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« Reply #2527 on: August 06, 2017, 10:01:03 PM »
someone at the park last night just told me about thunder 148s. has anyone skated these? and are they high mid or low?

Idk what it is but compared to 149 being the same height the 148 are really weird, they're sorta stable but sorta slim. It's better to stick to the classic 149 or lower height 147 hi.

I've been getting a lot of stuff down with my thunder 147 hi cause they're so quality. Perfect height, response and quick turn. If you want some thing more stable, wider, a Little taller and great response riding an 8.25 and up I suggest 149 over 148 even though 148 are supposed to be perfect for 8.25-8.4 but they just feel odd.

If you ride 7.8-8.25 and want good response, quick turn, and control go for the 147hi but other wise for preference of 8.25 or bigger skip the 148 and go 149.


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« Reply #2528 on: August 07, 2017, 01:02:47 PM »
someone at the park last night just told me about thunder 148s. has anyone skated these? and are they high mid or low?

Idk what it is but compared to 149 being the same height the 148 are really weird, they're sorta stable but sorta slim. It's better to stick to the classic 149 or lower height 147 hi.

I've been getting a lot of stuff down with my thunder 147 hi cause they're so quality. Perfect height, response and quick turn. If you want some thing more stable, wider, a Little taller and great response riding an 8.25 and up I suggest 149 over 148 even though 148 are supposed to be perfect for 8.25-8.4 but they just feel odd.

If you ride 7.8-8.25 and want good response, quick turn, and control go for the 147hi but other wise for preference of 8.25 or bigger skip the 148 and go 149.


There are those of us that are psychotic about our trucks. . .and then there's you.

I lurv the 148s and the 144s - Perfect for 8.25/8.3 - 8" always felt to narrowmagicarpet to me on those sizes and while I rode 149s forever on 8.3s and on 8.25s they just felt better on wider boards.

That said, nothing will ever beat the OLD (low) 149s, skinny 51mm wheels and and 8.3x loooow and fat =D

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« Reply #2529 on: August 07, 2017, 02:54:17 PM »
someone at the park last night just told me about thunder 148s. has anyone skated these? and are they high mid or low?

Idk what it is but compared to 149 being the same height the 148 are really weird, they're sorta stable but sorta slim. It's better to stick to the classic 149 or lower height 147 hi.

I've been getting a lot of stuff down with my thunder 147 hi cause they're so quality. Perfect height, response and quick turn. If you want some thing more stable, wider, a Little taller and great response riding an 8.25 and up I suggest 149 over 148 even though 148 are supposed to be perfect for 8.25-8.4 but they just feel odd.

If you ride 7.8-8.25 and want good response, quick turn, and control go for the 147hi but other wise for preference of 8.25 or bigger skip the 148 and go 149.


There are those of us that are psychotic about our trucks. . .and then there's you.

I lurv the 148s and the 144s - Perfect for 8.25/8.3 - 8" always felt to narrowmagicarpet to me on those sizes and while I rode 149s forever on 8.3s and on 8.25s they just felt better on wider boards.

That said, nothing will ever beat the OLD (low) 149s, skinny 51mm wheels and and 8.3x loooow and fat =D

I agree, the old 149ers how low and wide they were felt so responsive and under control. I wish they brought them back but as the new 149 lo so we get a classic lower center of gravity control wide thunder again. Imagine a pair on a REAL low pro deck haha
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2530 on: August 07, 2017, 03:26:22 PM »
someone at the park last night just told me about thunder 148s. has anyone skated these? and are they high mid or low?

Idk what it is but compared to 149 being the same height the 148 are really weird, they're sorta stable but sorta slim. It's better to stick to the classic 149 or lower height 147 hi.

I've been getting a lot of stuff down with my thunder 147 hi cause they're so quality. Perfect height, response and quick turn. If you want some thing more stable, wider, a Little taller and great response riding an 8.25 and up I suggest 149 over 148 even though 148 are supposed to be perfect for 8.25-8.4 but they just feel odd.

If you ride 7.8-8.25 and want good response, quick turn, and control go for the 147hi but other wise for preference of 8.25 or bigger skip the 148 and go 149.


There are those of us that are psychotic about our trucks. . .and then there's you.

I lurv the 148s and the 144s - Perfect for 8.25/8.3 - 8" always felt to narrowmagicarpet to me on those sizes and while I rode 149s forever on 8.3s and on 8.25s they just felt better on wider boards.

That said, nothing will ever beat the OLD (low) 149s, skinny 51mm wheels and and 8.3x loooow and fat =D

I agree, the old 149ers how low and wide they were felt so responsive and under control. I wish they brought them back but as the new 149 lo so we get a classic lower center of gravity control wide thunder again. Imagine a pair on a REAL low pro deck haha

Met this guy at a park with that combo, dude claimed that lower and wider was better. Can't kook him bevcause the park was way too packed and he was at least nice off the board.
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« Reply #2531 on: August 07, 2017, 07:05:21 PM »
What were the measurements for the axles on Thunders in the early 90's?
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« Reply #2532 on: August 08, 2017, 08:01:10 AM »
What were the measurements for the axles on Thunders in the early 90's?

If I am not mistaken they were 8.25?

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« Reply #2533 on: August 14, 2017, 04:10:21 AM »
Does anyone know any odd pro truck setups or anything of that nature?

Like how Leo Romero rides Indy 129 lows and Pete Eldridge and Luis Marnell(Rest In Peace his soul) rode thunder 147 lo's, I think billy marks still rocks the ole thunder 145 lo, last I saw tommy guns still doing krux 3.5/7.6 lows, before the 144 Reynolds with 139 Indys on 8.5 decks



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« Reply #2534 on: August 14, 2017, 04:59:32 AM »
Does anyone know any odd pro truck setups or anything of that nature?

Like how Leo Romero rides Indy 129 lows and Pete Eldridge and Luis Marnell(Rest In Peace his soul) rode thunder 147 lo's, I think billy marks still rocks the ole thunder 145 lo, last I saw tommy guns still doing krux 3.5/7.6 lows, before the 144 Reynolds with 139 Indys on 8.5 decks





I saw a vid where Ellington had 147s on a 8.62 or something crazy

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« Reply #2535 on: August 14, 2017, 05:03:28 AM »
Riley Hawk used to ride 169's on an 8.5, but he said he switched to 149's. Slash rides 139's on 8.5.

Al Partenen rides 139's and adds extra speed rings on the inside to widen the wheels out.

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« Reply #2536 on: August 15, 2017, 09:40:11 AM »
Whatever works out for them but I just ordered a pair of 144 indy hollow forged to match perfectly my 8.25 deck. I had too (Thanks for getting my ocd even worse guys!). Pumped to try them out when I arrive from my vacations.

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« Reply #2537 on: August 15, 2017, 04:06:42 PM »
Currently have a truck dilemma...can't do cast baseplates anymore because even my raw Indy 159's have widened at the pivot hole from slappies. The pivot cup is fine, it's the actual aluminum that's warping. Not as bad as Ace's cheap metal but it still bugs me. Will thunders' 149 forged trucks make me have insane wheelbite with 53mm wheels? I weigh around 200lbs and can't do risers I hate them.

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« Reply #2538 on: August 15, 2017, 05:19:55 PM »
Currently have a truck dilemma...can't do cast baseplates anymore because even my raw Indy 159's have widened at the pivot hole from slappies. The pivot cup is fine, it's the actual aluminum that's warping. Not as bad as Ace's cheap metal but it still bugs me. Will thunders' 149 forged trucks make me have insane wheelbite with 53mm wheels? I weigh around 200lbs and can't do risers I hate them.

53mms should be fine, I'm riding 54mms on mine without too much trouble (but I'm about 30 pounds lighter than you).

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« Reply #2539 on: August 15, 2017, 05:42:29 PM »
Currently have a truck dilemma...can't do cast baseplates anymore because even my raw Indy 159's have widened at the pivot hole from slappies. The pivot cup is fine, it's the actual aluminum that's warping. Not as bad as Ace's cheap metal but it still bugs me. Will thunders' 149 forged trucks make me have insane wheelbite with 53mm wheels? I weigh around 200lbs and can't do risers I hate them.

Forged indys could do the trick.

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« Reply #2540 on: August 15, 2017, 06:43:19 PM »
For what it's worth, thunders with risers don't feel as weird as with other trucks. Still really snappy and turn much better with extra clearance.

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« Reply #2541 on: August 15, 2017, 07:08:57 PM »
I am your weight, I ride the Thunder 149 hi with 1/8" Thunder risers & 54 mm wheels. I still get wheel bite, it's not too bad though. I would def. recommend risers with Thunders though.

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« Reply #2542 on: August 15, 2017, 07:23:47 PM »
Thanks for the feedback guys. I think I'll play it safe and just skate the forged titanium Indy's I was trying to sell. Thunders probably turn better with some 1/8" risers but I can't stand looking down and seeing plastic separating my trucks from the board. Thunder needs to make a 53.5" hi forged like Indy...

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« Reply #2543 on: August 16, 2017, 10:27:36 AM »
Had to go back to Indys because my front venture broke landing a nollie inward heel (???) and god damn the bushings are awful.
I look drunk and I'm always out of balance because I have to adjust to the board that won't do what I tell her (and we are talking about cruising).
About to put the V bushings into the I trucks and hope for the best.

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« Reply #2544 on: August 16, 2017, 10:48:56 AM »
I've switched back and forth between Ventures and Thunders 4 times in the last week. Seriously losing my mind
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« Reply #2545 on: August 16, 2017, 11:56:43 AM »
I've switched back and forth between Ventures and Thunders 4 times in the last week. Seriously losing my mind

Ha. I feel ya.

I'm altering between Indys, Aces and Ventures right now personally. I thought I had my truck setups figured out. Then I broke my leg, had to take 6+ months off and now that I'm slowly getting back to skating, I seem to have a completely different view on how trucks should work.

I've been fucking with the bushings too (and wheels and board sizes). I have 5 set ups right now and am considering getting a 6th one cuz I really liked my friend's set up with titanium Indys. For me it seems to change every time what I prefer. It would be so much easier to just stick with one and go with that. I'm sure I could get along with any of my setups just fine if I had just one but now I'm just testing everything out all the time and coming to weird conclusions on why something is better than the others.  :P

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« Reply #2546 on: August 16, 2017, 12:06:07 PM »
I've switched back and forth between Ventures and Thunders 4 times in the last week. Seriously losing my mind
add indy into the mix and get crazy, dude

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« Reply #2547 on: August 16, 2017, 12:18:10 PM »
I've switched back and forth between Ventures and Thunders 4 times in the last week. Seriously losing my mind
add indy into the mix and get crazy, dude

seriously, indy are the best IMO

I've got Indys 129 on my 7.81 anti hero eagle green deck.
I use that board a bit. But I'm going through a 8.125 phase currently and I've got venture 5.25 lows and thunder 147 hi that I keep flip flopping on. My current thought process is that: Indy turn the best , Venture flip the best and Thunder feel like a combo of both. I really enjoy the pop and consistency of kickflips on Thunder though.

I've also been going through a thought that when I was younger part of the fun of skating was trying new gear so I kinda really want to try these Thunders for a full use. And try some different shoes than vans or Lakai. Just to stop being repetitive too. I only want to use skate brand shoes though. Which is sorta stupid cuz I wear Nike for running. I just don't want to skate in their shit. I've been pondering Es, Emerica and even Etnies. Thos goes hand in hand with my truck crazy crap
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« Reply #2548 on: August 16, 2017, 12:57:40 PM »
I've switched back and forth between Ventures and Thunders 4 times in the last week. Seriously losing my mind
add indy into the mix and get crazy, dude

seriously, indy are the best IMO

I've got Indys 129 on my 7.81 anti hero eagle green deck.
I use that board a bit. But I'm going through a 8.125 phase currently and I've got venture 5.25 lows and thunder 147 hi that I keep flip flopping on. My current thought process is that: Indy turn the best , Venture flip the best and Thunder feel like a combo of both. I really enjoy the pop and consistency of kickflips on Thunder though.

I've also been going through a thought that when I was younger part of the fun of skating was trying new gear so I kinda really want to try these Thunders for a full use. And try some different shoes than vans or Lakai. Just to stop being repetitive too. I only want to use skate brand shoes though. Which is sorta stupid cuz I wear Nike for running. I just don't want to skate in their shit. I've been pondering Es, Emerica and even Etnies. Thos goes hand in hand with my truck crazy crap
I'm skating an 8.1 with thunder 148 teams right now and I really like it, 0 complaints... But there's still this enormous pull back to venture.
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« Reply #2549 on: August 17, 2017, 03:56:02 PM »
Y'all ever install a krux kingpin in a thunder 149?
I'm curious