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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2580 on: August 26, 2017, 07:08:48 PM »
So I just got done skating Thunder titanium 149's with 1/8" Thunder risers underneath. For being 210lbs I didn't get the wheelbite I thought I would, probably because I'm using the hard conical aftermarket Indy bushings in them. I had to take the top washer off to get them to turn though, and even then it really didn't feel much quicker than Indy at all. Also, for being the same type of aluminum as Indy and Venture, the grinds were ridiculously sticky on these trucks. My Indy titaniums grind smooth and never stick. I feel like I've hit a wall with truck nerdery now and it bums me out. Nothing can turn as good as Ace yet have the durability of a forged baseplate. I don't know where to turn and I need the support of you fellow truck addicts.

Either stick with indy TI forged and stick with hard bottom conicals and swap to soft tops (I'm back on indy forged hollows with bones med bottom/soft tops, riptide pivots cups) and it's the only way I can get them to feel close enough to turny aces with the <almost> height of thunders. I need bones in them as the rebound is much faster than say, indy conicals.

Have you tried Ventures?

I want the grind of Krux, height and pop of thunders (cast plates), weight of TI Thunders and turn of ACE, and hell throw in the extended base plated of Ventures ;)

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« Reply #2581 on: August 26, 2017, 08:22:16 PM »
After giving up on finding the right truck and setup for sometime I think just knowing these 2 preferences will help you get out of the loop,

-find the tightness you like your trucks, like the REAL tightness where you are confident in doing tricks and ollieing over stuff knowing your board won't rocket or leave your feet. I discovered I like my trucks tightish and everything got so easy, getting my nose manual and nollie heels more consistent

-find the right height, it might not be as critical but for me I prefer my trucks like a mid or between mid and low cause you get a faster tail hitting the ground feel, some people want to feel levitated and that's all you. But if your trucks are the right tightness and height I guarantee it'll just get you back to pure skating and no thoughts about your setup

Everyone's probably gonna say the right bushings and all that but really I think depending on how truly truly tight you like your trucks then you can consider bushings cause I feel you can skate stock bushings on any trucks with any tightness it's just aftermarkets are more suited for your preference is all(I like tighter trucks so harder duro is gonna work better than having a medium and cranking it just to be able to turn a little more but lose some board control), I like the stock thunders but the after market harder ones just work better cause I don't have to expose as many threads tightening and the bushings don't wear and break as fast( the stock Softs kept getting soft again from the wear in only a few session and the tops were cracking)
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« Reply #2582 on: August 26, 2017, 09:15:31 PM »
... cause I feel you can skate stock bushings on any trucks with any tightness it's just aftermarkets are more suited for your preference is all(I like tighter trucks so harder duro is gonna work better than having a medium and cranking it ...

This is from Andrew Reynolds' Instagram feed recently


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« Reply #2583 on: August 26, 2017, 09:19:28 PM »
... cause I feel you can skate stock bushings on any trucks with any tightness it's just aftermarkets are more suited for your preference is all(I like tighter trucks so harder duro is gonna work better than having a medium and cranking it ...

This is from Andrew Reynolds' Instagram feed recently



Does this mean that reynolds is potentially cranking?

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« Reply #2584 on: August 27, 2017, 07:31:02 AM »
... cause I feel you can skate stock bushings on any trucks with any tightness it's just aftermarkets are more suited for your preference is all(I like tighter trucks so harder duro is gonna work better than having a medium and cranking it ...

This is from Andrew Reynolds' Instagram feed recently



He's clearly shaving, not cranking.
Does this mean that reynolds is potentially cranking?

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« Reply #2585 on: August 27, 2017, 01:04:16 PM »
So I just got done skating Thunder titanium 149's with 1/8" Thunder risers underneath. For being 210lbs I didn't get the wheelbite I thought I would, probably because I'm using the hard conical aftermarket Indy bushings in them. I had to take the top washer off to get them to turn though, and even then it really didn't feel much quicker than Indy at all. Also, for being the same type of aluminum as Indy and Venture, the grinds were ridiculously sticky on these trucks. My Indy titaniums grind smooth and never stick. I feel like I've hit a wall with truck nerdery now and it bums me out. Nothing can turn as good as Ace yet have the durability of a forged baseplate. I don't know where to turn and I need the support of you fellow truck addicts.

It's been at least a couple weeks so.......

Theeve? 

I think Indy is the correct answer and nothing will ever turn like an Ace....Indy is the next best thing and they don't make your wheelbase shorter.....

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« Reply #2586 on: August 27, 2017, 01:35:29 PM »
So I just got done skating Thunder titanium 149's with 1/8" Thunder risers underneath. For being 210lbs I didn't get the wheelbite I thought I would, probably because I'm using the hard conical aftermarket Indy bushings in them. I had to take the top washer off to get them to turn though, and even then it really didn't feel much quicker than Indy at all. Also, for being the same type of aluminum as Indy and Venture, the grinds were ridiculously sticky on these trucks. My Indy titaniums grind smooth and never stick. I feel like I've hit a wall with truck nerdery now and it bums me out. Nothing can turn as good as Ace yet have the durability of a forged baseplate. I don't know where to turn and I need the support of you fellow truck addicts.

It's been at least a couple weeks so.......

Theeve? 

I think Indy is the correct answer and nothing will ever turn like an Ace....Indy is the next best thing and they don't make your wheelbase shorter.....

Theeve are cast and they never came out with the forged plate they were going to make; I still preferred the V2 design, hanger looked like ACE and I swear they turned better than the Theeve V3.

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« Reply #2587 on: August 27, 2017, 06:09:16 PM »
Yeah I was just thinking how they turned....I skate old tih's and they are all slimmed down like aces...I like how they turn....a little nuts but not ACE nuts....

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« Reply #2588 on: August 27, 2017, 06:22:09 PM »
Yeah I was just thinking how they turned....I skate old tih's and they are all slimmed down like aces...I like how they turn....a little nuts but not ACE nuts....

Makes me think of the old insta pic from waaaaaaay back when theeve was running ACE plates on early prototypes ;P

I just sold off my 8.18" tihs (got them on sale at about half off and sold them above retail on ebay) and they definitely turned better that the last pair of TiKings I had (which I could never get turny enough).
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« Reply #2589 on: August 27, 2017, 10:32:20 PM »
Don't put it past me to get some magnesium ace baseplates....could be a big improvement...

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« Reply #2590 on: August 27, 2017, 11:02:30 PM »
Life is Hard after riding Ace 44s and having to revert back to indys. Any suggestions for bushings on indy 149s? I tried aftermarket indys, but they kinda sucked or I just wasn't patient enough. Bones mediums turn nice, but they crumble in a week or so (I weight close to 220lbs/100kg)...
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« Reply #2591 on: August 28, 2017, 04:54:58 AM »
Don't put it past me to get some magnesium ace baseplates....could be a big improvement...

This combo ruined my life. I've tried to go back to indys after because I've always considered myself an Indy guy, but goddamn the ace 44 with magplates is near perfect.

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« Reply #2592 on: August 28, 2017, 10:27:54 AM »
Don't put it past me to get some magnesium ace baseplates....could be a big improvement...

This combo ruined my life. I've tried to go back to indys after because I've always considered myself an Indy guy, but goddamn the ace 44 with magplates is near perfect.

I'm a weight whore, ACE cast plates are not the end of the world tho!

That said, it is a shame ACE won't make them anymore but I get it, they're too small of a company with an even smaller userbase to warrant making tiaxle, hollow king pins and forged/mag plates. =( If only!

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« Reply #2593 on: August 28, 2017, 12:37:42 PM »
Don't put it past me to get some magnesium ace baseplates....could be a big improvement...

This combo ruined my life. I've tried to go back to indys after because I've always considered myself an Indy guy, but goddamn the ace 44 with magplates is near perfect.

I'm a weight whore, ACE cast plates are not the end of the world tho!

That said, it is a shame ACE won't make them anymore but I get it, they're too small of a company with an even smaller userbase to warrant making tiaxle, hollow king pins and forged/mag plates. =( If only!

I don't really fuck with the hollow stuff anyway and the weight isn't really a big concern of mine. I just like it for the aesthetic, the nice matte black finish and just knowing it's there really...

It's like wearing a nice watch or something but for your setup, it doesn't really make that much of a difference but you feel good about it anyway. I'm trying to get ahold of another set.

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« Reply #2594 on: August 28, 2017, 04:24:00 PM »
Don't put it past me to get some magnesium ace baseplates....could be a big improvement...

This combo ruined my life. I've tried to go back to indys after because I've always considered myself an Indy guy, but goddamn the ace 44 with magplates is near perfect.

I'm a weight whore, ACE cast plates are not the end of the world tho!

That said, it is a shame ACE won't make them anymore but I get it, they're too small of a company with an even smaller userbase to warrant making tiaxle, hollow king pins and forged/mag plates. =( If only!

I don't really fuck with the hollow stuff anyway and the weight isn't really a big concern of mine. I just like it for the aesthetic, the nice matte black finish and just knowing it's there really...

It's like wearing a nice watch or something but for your setup, it doesn't really make that much of a difference but you feel good about it anyway. I'm trying to get ahold of another set.

My set are getting pretty beat up (park only and mainly bowls) - I'd love another set.

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« Reply #2595 on: August 28, 2017, 06:04:05 PM »
Hey I don't know how as they were supposed to be history, but it seems native skate store has a few pairs of ace mag plates in.
Well the bad news is they are in the UK.
Anyway someone buy them all so I don't have to : it's really tempting but I can't justify paying that much to shave a few grams... or can I?

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« Reply #2596 on: August 28, 2017, 08:09:01 PM »
Hey I don't know how as they were supposed to be history, but it seems native skate store has a few pairs of ace mag plates in.
Well the bad news is they are in the UK.
Anyway someone buy them all so I don't have to : it's really tempting but I can't justify paying that much to shave a few grams... or can I?

Not at $46.53 (including shipping to the US) you can't...well....maybe you can ;)

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« Reply #2597 on: August 29, 2017, 09:58:12 PM »
I set up my extra set of stage 7's with krux pins and I'm gonna ride these out till I reach the axle. One truck is like 4-5mm wider on the hanger than the other one I noticed. What would you guys do? Put the wider one up front since the nose is bigger? What would SLAP pals do?

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« Reply #2598 on: August 29, 2017, 10:03:38 PM »
I set up my extra set of stage 7's with krux pins and I'm gonna ride these out till I reach the axle. One truck is like 4-5mm wider on the hanger than the other one I noticed. What would you guys do? Put the wider one up front since the nose is bigger? What would SLAP pals do?
wider one on the front bolts...you lucky bastard.
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« Reply #2599 on: August 30, 2017, 01:26:44 AM »
I set up my extra set of stage 7's with krux pins and I'm gonna ride these out till I reach the axle. One truck is like 4-5mm wider on the hanger than the other one I noticed. What would you guys do? Put the wider one up front since the nose is bigger? What would SLAP pals do?
wider one on the front bolts...you lucky bastard.

ha there was someone on here selling a lotta sets of the stage 7s and 8s
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« Reply #2600 on: August 30, 2017, 08:17:25 AM »
^ yeah I bought two out of four sets of stage 7's from him. He was a super nice dude and hooked it up with all sorts of pivot cups and bushings as well.

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« Reply #2601 on: August 30, 2017, 08:20:24 AM »
Aren't they commonly narrow sizes though? 

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« Reply #2602 on: August 30, 2017, 04:50:16 PM »
So I just got done skating Thunder titanium 149's with 1/8" Thunder risers underneath. For being 210lbs I didn't get the wheelbite I thought I would, probably because I'm using the hard conical aftermarket Indy bushings in them. I had to take the top washer off to get them to turn though, and even then it really didn't feel much quicker than Indy at all. Also, for being the same type of aluminum as Indy and Venture, the grinds were ridiculously sticky on these trucks. My Indy titaniums grind smooth and never stick. I feel like I've hit a wall with truck nerdery now and it bums me out. Nothing can turn as good as Ace yet have the durability of a forged baseplate. I don't know where to turn and I need the support of you fellow truck addicts.
At least you aren't here...

never seen that combo before. i wanted thunder base plates with venture hangers, never did it though.

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« Reply #2603 on: August 30, 2017, 07:03:44 PM »
Aren't they commonly narrow sizes though? 

136, 146, and onward. Just a few mm less than newer stages.

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« Reply #2604 on: August 31, 2017, 06:55:39 PM »
As much as I love my unicorn Ventures I finally got the chance to skate some Theeves again. A couple weeks ago I ordered some 5.85 Tiax's that were on sale with the intention of upgrading them, but i broke the baseplate trying to install their hollow titanium kingpin so I had to have them send me some pre-installed replacements. Took a while to get to me but I got my TiKings now and am stoked to try them out. Gonna go work on some grinds all morning tomorrow. I'm hoping these are like a sweet spot between the sharp turning & pop of Thunders with the stability & grindability of Ventures.

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« Reply #2605 on: September 01, 2017, 07:49:07 AM »
So I just got done skating Thunder titanium 149's with 1/8" Thunder risers underneath. For being 210lbs I didn't get the wheelbite I thought I would, probably because I'm using the hard conical aftermarket Indy bushings in them. I had to take the top washer off to get them to turn though, and even then it really didn't feel much quicker than Indy at all. Also, for being the same type of aluminum as Indy and Venture, the grinds were ridiculously sticky on these trucks. My Indy titaniums grind smooth and never stick. I feel like I've hit a wall with truck nerdery now and it bums me out. Nothing can turn as good as Ace yet have the durability of a forged baseplate. I don't know where to turn and I need the support of you fellow truck addicts.
At least you aren't here...


Haha did the same, but with Bones Bushings it seems the bottom one did not fit 100%, never skated it.

Tried Venture V-Hollow Lighs Low 5,25 (48MM height) vs. Thunder Titanium 147 HI (50MM height) on the same Deck skating flat. The Venture Hangar is shifted a little bit more to the Nose/Tail and extends the wheelbase minimal.
I skated the Thunders for almost 3 years prior.
I noticed nearly no difference. Stability wise it felt a little bit more comfortable on the Ventures but with the Thunders I felt the pop was snappier and it flipped a little bit easier, could be the weight, Ventures are about 0,10lbs (45G) heavier each truck.
Switched back to the Thunders for now but might skate the Ventures anytime soon.

Only strange thing when I switched back to Thunders I had troubles doing Frontside Flips at first which worked perfect on the Ventures.



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« Reply #2606 on: September 01, 2017, 08:05:43 AM »
Anyone have that link for that slightly shady website that sells spare truck parts? Have seen it here somewhere but cannot find it anymore...
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« Reply #2607 on: September 03, 2017, 04:58:19 AM »
Hey I don't know how as they were supposed to be history, but it seems native skate store has a few pairs of ace mag plates in.
Well the bad news is they are in the UK.
Anyway someone buy them all so I don't have to : it's really tempting but I can't justify paying that much to shave a few grams... or can I?

Thanks man I live in England and have been waiting to get so magnesiums forever, G shit

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« Reply #2608 on: September 04, 2017, 08:16:40 AM »
new deck comes in tomorrow thought i'd clean my trucks up a bit and realised i have a crack in the fucking hanger, just normal thunder 149 hi team trucks.



cant tell if it's just a surface crack or if shits fucked, still gonna ride it till it falls off cus it couldve been like that for months and i'd have no idea. kinda surprised it's on the front since the only front grinds i can do are nosegrinds and shoddy crooks, was expecting it to eventually give out on the back truck tranny groove.

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« Reply #2609 on: September 04, 2017, 03:44:25 PM »
Two 3-4 hour sessions in, and I've really been digging my Theeve's so far. I've gotten a couple personal NBD's each session (mostly grinds) and since I already kind of broke in the bushings before skating them, they were good to go from the jump. They've got that sharp turning & quick pop I like but still have excellent stability on hard landings and the oval yolk minimizes wheelbite by tucking the wheels inward to avoid the deck. Grind like a beast too. They really gotta step up their marketing game & maybe add some fresh faces to the team or something because they deserve to be a lot more popular than they currently are IMO.