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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2640 on: September 10, 2017, 08:58:30 AM »
Looks like a 215 hangar.
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« Reply #2641 on: September 10, 2017, 10:14:40 AM »
Looks like a 215 hangar.
Yeah, after google it is most likely 215, have never seen them before.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2642 on: September 10, 2017, 11:42:11 AM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=88869.msg2684949#msg2684949 date=1505043768
Randomly stumbled across this image tonight.

Maybe this is the hot setup for Thunders.

Did anybody actually see the bottom of Tiago Lemos' board?



Is it me or does that hanger look slimmer than the normal stage 11?
At first look I thought it was thunder hanger on indy baseplate... something weird is going on there.
The fuck...what advantage is there to using bearings instead of risers?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2643 on: September 10, 2017, 11:55:46 AM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=88869.msg2684949#msg2684949 date=1505043768
Randomly stumbled across this image tonight.

Maybe this is the hot setup for Thunders.

Did anybody actually see the bottom of Tiago Lemos' board?



Is it me or does that hanger look slimmer than the normal stage 11?
At first look I thought it was thunder hanger on indy baseplate... something weird is going on there.
The fuck...what advantage is there to using bearings instead of risers?

The only thing I can think of is smoother tail/noseslides?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2644 on: September 10, 2017, 01:08:15 PM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=88869.msg2684949#msg2684949 date=1505043768
Randomly stumbled across this image tonight.

Maybe this is the hot setup for Thunders.

Did anybody actually see the bottom of Tiago Lemos' board?



Is it me or does that hanger look slimmer than the normal stage 11?
At first look I thought it was thunder hanger on indy baseplate... something weird is going on there.
The fuck...what advantage is there to using bearings instead of risers?

The only thing I can think of is smoother tail/noseslides?

this is some wacky shit. probably the only way to make those super long nose/tailslides work. I hope they start making all sizes of Indy's with that thinner hanger they use for 215's.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2645 on: September 10, 2017, 04:58:21 PM »
Quote from: Krooked antihero  link=topic=88869.msg2684949#msg2684949 date=1505043768
Randomly stumbled across this image tonight.

Maybe this is the hot setup for Thunders.

Did anybody actually see the bottom of Tiago Lemos' board?



Is it me or does that hanger look slimmer than the normal stage 11?
At first look I thought it was thunder hanger on indy baseplate... something weird is going on there.
The fuck...what advantage is there to using bearings instead of risers?

The only thing I can think of is smoother tail/noseslides?

this is some wacky shit. probably the only way to make those super long nose/tailslides work. I hope they start making all sizes of Indy's with that thinner hanger they use for 215's.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2646 on: September 10, 2017, 06:43:06 PM »
Isn't that Zarosh's set-up?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2647 on: September 10, 2017, 07:31:29 PM »


Where is that new snazzy lockinto nose/tail slide baseplate? ;)

Also, seeing the 1MM higher! in print makes it all seam silly

yes it's pretty silly...but in the spirit of this psycho thread, what height does that put a 148 team ti at?  ace height?

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« Reply #2648 on: September 10, 2017, 07:57:42 PM »


Where is that new snazzy lockinto nose/tail slide baseplate? ;)

Also, seeing the 1MM higher! in print makes it all seam silly

yes it's pretty silly...but in the spirit of this psycho thread, what height does that put a 148 team ti at?  ace height?

Doesn't it just put them at regular Thunder High height? Which is still a little lower than Aces.

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« Reply #2649 on: September 10, 2017, 08:31:03 PM »
The new 149IIs were 52.3mm + 1mm for cast sooooo....

53.3mm - pretty much the same height as ACEs around 54mm and Indy Forged @ 53.5mm
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2650 on: September 10, 2017, 08:35:13 PM »
Randomly stumbled across this image tonight.

Maybe this is the hot setup for Thunders.

Did anybody actually see the bottom of Tiago Lemos' board?



Is it me or does that hanger look slimmer than the normal stage 11?
At first look I thought it was thunder hanger on indy baseplate... something weird is going on there.
The fuck...what advantage is there to using bearings instead of risers?

The only thing I can think of is smoother tail/noseslides?

this is some wacky shit. probably the only way to make those super long nose/tailslides work. I hope they start making all sizes of Indy's with that thinner hanger they use for 215's.

Just skate aces

Skating ACEs (v1 or v2 theeves) or 215s cut down and rethreaded is the only way you'll get that sexy trim hanger...it requires a new mold and those don't get made that often.

I doubt Lemos is skating full 215s on a street board, perhaps he got them cut down? Other than weight, not much to gain since the 215s are on stage XI...besides, there's a rail, some fucking rip grip...what decade is this?

 
« Last Edit: September 10, 2017, 08:55:46 PM by Xen »

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2651 on: September 10, 2017, 09:09:47 PM »
The new 149IIs were 52.3mm + 1mm for cast sooooo....

53.3mm - pretty much the same height as ACEs around 54mm and Indy Forged @ 53.5mm

Are you sure it's 52.3 for the forged 149II thunders ? I think it's 52.3 for the regular cast 149II/148II
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« Reply #2652 on: September 10, 2017, 09:11:51 PM »
I totally thought that was rip grip right away, then thought "nah that can't be rip grip, its probably just some weird sticker, what kind of lunatic would be rip gripping these days".

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« Reply #2653 on: September 10, 2017, 09:16:23 PM »
The new 149IIs were 52.3mm + 1mm for cast sooooo....

53.3mm - pretty much the same height as ACEs around 54mm and Indy Forged @ 53.5mm

Good to know, thanks Xen.  


But fuck, I'd been doing so good content with the swerve, but now an unexpected knee comeback has me wanting to set up something crazy light.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2654 on: September 10, 2017, 09:18:14 PM »
I totally thought that was rip grip right away, then thought "nah that can't be rip grip, its probably just some weird sticker, what kind of lunatic would be rip gripping these days".

I think Navarette does on occasion. that board must most likely belong to Zarosh, and he well and truly still runs some rip grip

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2655 on: September 10, 2017, 09:24:46 PM »
The new 149IIs were 52.3mm + 1mm for cast sooooo....

53.3mm - pretty much the same height as ACEs around 54mm and Indy Forged @ 53.5mm

Are you sure it's 52.3 for the forged 149II thunders ? I think it's 52.3 for the regular cast 149II/148II

Unless they used a forged image when discussing cast height...who knows..

http://www.thundertrucks.com/newthunder149/img/149II-height.jpg


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« Reply #2656 on: September 10, 2017, 09:29:55 PM »
I totally thought that was rip grip right away, then thought "nah that can't be rip grip, its probably just some weird sticker, what kind of lunatic would be rip gripping these days".

I think Navarette does on occasion. that board must most likely belong to Zarosh, and he well and truly still runs some rip grip

Bearings for spacers, slimed down indys, conical bushings, rip grip.. This man should be watched, constantly. >:(

Oh. And a mother fucking STICKER ON THE TRUCK!?!?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2657 on: September 11, 2017, 12:40:50 AM »
The new 149IIs were 52.3mm + 1mm for cast sooooo....

53.3mm - pretty much the same height as ACEs around 54mm and Indy Forged @ 53.5mm

Are you sure it's 52.3 for the forged 149II thunders ? I think it's 52.3 for the regular cast 149II/148II

Unless they used a forged image when discussing cast height...who knows..

http://www.thundertrucks.com/newthunder149/img/149II-height.jpg



Your right, only one one person can really confirm this and it's Reed. But I trust the image with the forged, do 1/8 riders add 1 or 2 mm to the truck height ?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2658 on: September 11, 2017, 03:17:12 AM »
The new 149IIs were 52.3mm + 1mm for cast sooooo....

53.3mm - pretty much the same height as ACEs around 54mm and Indy Forged @ 53.5mm

Are you sure it's 52.3 for the forged 149II thunders ? I think it's 52.3 for the regular cast 149II/148II

Unless they used a forged image when discussing cast height...who knows..

http://www.thundertrucks.com/newthunder149/img/149II-height.jpg



Your right, only one one person can really confirm this and it's Reed. But I trust the image with the forged, do 1/8 riders add 1 or 2 mm to the truck height ?

1 in = 25.4 mm
1/8 in = 25.4/8 mm = 3.175 mm

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« Reply #2659 on: September 11, 2017, 03:21:05 AM »
The new 149IIs were 52.3mm + 1mm for cast sooooo....

53.3mm - pretty much the same height as ACEs around 54mm and Indy Forged @ 53.5mm

Are you sure it's 52.3 for the forged 149II thunders ? I think it's 52.3 for the regular cast 149II/148II

Unless they used a forged image when discussing cast height...who knows..

http://www.thundertrucks.com/newthunder149/img/149II-height.jpg



Your right, only one one person can really confirm this and it's Reed. But I trust the image with the forged, do 1/8 riders add 1 or 2 mm to the truck height ?

1 in = 25.4 mm
1/8 in = 25.4/8 mm = 3.175 mm

That's crazy, never realized how much shock pad/risers can add
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2660 on: September 11, 2017, 09:43:12 AM »
Randomly stumbled across this image tonight.

Maybe this is the hot setup for Thunders.

Did anybody actually see the bottom of Tiago Lemos' board?



Is it me or does that hanger look slimmer than the normal stage 11?
At first look I thought it was thunder hanger on indy baseplate... something weird is going on there.
The fuck...what advantage is there to using bearings instead of risers?

The only thing I can think of is smoother tail/noseslides?

this is some wacky shit. probably the only way to make those super long nose/tailslides work. I hope they start making all sizes of Indy's with that thinner hanger they use for 215's.

Just skate aces

Skating ACEs (v1 or v2 theeves) or 215s cut down and rethreaded is the only way you'll get that sexy trim hanger...it requires a new mold and those don't get made that often.

I doubt Lemos is skating full 215s on a street board, perhaps he got them cut down? Other than weight, not much to gain since the 215s are on stage XI...besides, there's a rail, some fucking rip grip...what decade is this?

 

Danny Dicola rides cut down 215's all the time, he shows how to do it and talks a little about it here:


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2661 on: September 12, 2017, 10:42:58 AM »
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That's sick, but too much effort for me.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2662 on: September 20, 2017, 03:14:27 PM »
Has anybody put aftemarket Indy Low conicals into Thunder Hi's? I have a hard time getting my trucks loose enough without sanding/cutting bushings and I'm tired of the effort.

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« Reply #2663 on: September 20, 2017, 05:35:25 PM »
Has anybody put aftemarket Indy Low conicals into Thunder Hi's? I have a hard time getting my trucks loose enough without sanding/cutting bushings and I'm tired of the effort.

Indy lows won't help you. I finally sucked it up and just slapped in Soft Bones with two flat washer under the bottom bushing to keep stock height and then cranked them down; works like a charm!

That said, Bitch Bushings fit perfectly on the bottom and rebound is on point compared to stock, tops are a bit tall but they could be sanded down. I tried 73a and they were waaaaay to soft, going to try the 90as and see what's up.

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« Reply #2664 on: September 21, 2017, 02:55:55 AM »
What durometer are Venture stock bushings? What would you guys recommend for something softer in Ventures? The Venture soft (90A) red bushings aren?t easy to come by and I dunno if they?re soft enough. On Aces I run stock bushings and in Indys Bones medium.

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« Reply #2665 on: September 21, 2017, 08:10:22 AM »
What durometer are Venture stock bushings? What would you guys recommend for something softer in Ventures? The Venture soft (90A) red bushings aren?t easy to come by and I dunno if they?re soft enough. On Aces I run stock bushings and in Indys Bones medium.
All of the stock venture bushings regardless of color are 90a. If you want something softer, DLX supercush or the aftermarket indys fit perfectly in ventures.
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« Reply #2666 on: September 21, 2017, 10:19:50 AM »
What durometer are Venture stock bushings? What would you guys recommend for something softer in Ventures? The Venture soft (90A) red bushings aren?t easy to come by and I dunno if they?re soft enough. On Aces I run stock bushings and in Indys Bones medium.
All of the stock venture bushings regardless of color are 90a. If you want something softer, DLX supercush or the aftermarket indys fit perfectly in ventures.

Thanks. Maybe I'll try some Indy bushings. They're widely available at least. For some reason after breaking my leg and now slowly coming back I seem to prefer much looser trucks than before. Like night and day pretty much. So even though my previous opinion on stock Ventures was that they're pretty damn good, now I think I want them to be much looser. Interesting to see how they'll perform with some soft bushings.

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« Reply #2667 on: September 21, 2017, 06:28:48 PM »
What durometer are Venture stock bushings? What would you guys recommend for something softer in Ventures? The Venture soft (90A) red bushings aren?t easy to come by and I dunno if they?re soft enough. On Aces I run stock bushings and in Indys Bones medium.
All of the stock venture bushings regardless of color are 90a. If you want something softer, DLX supercush or the aftermarket indys fit perfectly in ventures.

Thanks. Maybe I'll try some Indy bushings. They're widely available at least. For some reason after breaking my leg and now slowly coming back I seem to prefer much looser trucks than before. Like night and day pretty much. So even though my previous opinion on stock Ventures was that they're pretty damn good, now I think I want them to be much looser. Interesting to see how they'll perform with some soft bushings.

from what i understand/experience - the big 3 (venture thunder independent) all use a 90a stock bushing right? ive tried to use the stock thunders (the white ones, clearish yellow ones) but i just cant! i gotta have something more harder likea 95, 97 duro - i also weigh 130 pounds/ 5 foot 7 - so i think that matters?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2668 on: September 21, 2017, 08:57:55 PM »
What durometer are Venture stock bushings? What would you guys recommend for something softer in Ventures? The Venture soft (90A) red bushings aren?t easy to come by and I dunno if they?re soft enough. On Aces I run stock bushings and in Indys Bones medium.
All of the stock venture bushings regardless of color are 90a. If you want something softer, DLX supercush or the aftermarket indys fit perfectly in ventures.

Thanks. Maybe I'll try some Indy bushings. They're widely available at least. For some reason after breaking my leg and now slowly coming back I seem to prefer much looser trucks than before. Like night and day pretty much. So even though my previous opinion on stock Ventures was that they're pretty damn good, now I think I want them to be much looser. Interesting to see how they'll perform with some soft bushings.

from what i understand/experience - the big 3 (venture thunder independent) all use a 90a stock bushing right? ive tried to use the stock thunders (the white ones, clearish yellow ones) but i just cant! i gotta have something more harder likea 95, 97 duro - i also weigh 130 pounds/ 5 foot 7 - so i think that matters?

I weigh 200 pounds (90 kg) and am 6 foot 1 (186 cm).

I used to rock Bones hards on Indys and medium top stock bottom on Aces tightened down a lot. I could still turn on my board but it needed quite a bit of effort for sure. Dunno if that came from my snowboarding background as with a snowboard you usually have to put quite some force to the board to make it turn compared to a skateboard.

Now coming back from my injury I've felt like I want the board to turn much more easily, maybe because my legs aren't that strong right now and I'm doing less tricks, so I'm not so afraid of wheelbite.

I guess my point is that my view of how trucks should turn has changed drastically and I think I can kinda understand both sides, loose and soft & hard and tight as I've been in both camps recently.  :)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2669 on: September 21, 2017, 09:56:18 PM »
The thing with Ventures, I feel like there's this fine line where they turn great, then half a turn tighter they won't turn at all. I ride mine flush now and I can hit the same lines I could on Aces. Year ago I rode 2 threads showing and good luck trying to turn.
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