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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2700 on: October 02, 2017, 10:19:57 PM »
If you manage to get the mag plates for your aces and use the krux kingpin they become noticeably lighter.

Yeah but that's kid of a lot of work. I think they're fine stock, honestly. I skated the old 44s and new 55s. I just bought a set of 44s on an impulse, going to hang on to skate them once I get off this 7.75 kick I'm on.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2701 on: October 03, 2017, 11:06:01 AM »
will krux cushions work in Ventures? purple stocks are a tad too squishy for me.

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« Reply #2702 on: October 03, 2017, 03:23:46 PM »
Steve weighed them against am Indy 149, and I think the 44 was a few grams lighter than the 149, but only because it's a shorter truck.

Indeed, from that skateboardingismylifetimesport page :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13rCMIthFb59Y-xrveasWk4GqR9jgd85fXDCIFm3g15I/edit#gid=0
Ace 44 : 365g
Indy 11 149 : 394g
Seeing the level of nerdyness over there, i'd trust those numbers... (omagad almost 10% more lighter!!!!)

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« Reply #2703 on: October 03, 2017, 04:30:07 PM »
Don't trust those numbers.

a) The dude who did that website is has some questionable methods and numbers.
b) Ace added meat to their hangers since.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2704 on: October 04, 2017, 01:05:15 PM »
Don't trust those numbers.

a) The dude who did that website is has some questionable methods and numbers.
b) Ace added meat to their hangers since.

Yep you're right, I forgot that because i roll with the old design; bends a tad but still strong enough for my soft skating.  ;D

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2705 on: October 04, 2017, 07:32:34 PM »
Krux are on sale on most of the big websites, anyone know why? K5's coming?
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« Reply #2706 on: October 05, 2017, 06:09:11 PM »
will krux cushions work in Ventures? purple stocks are a tad too squishy for me.
I believe the bottom bushing will be too tall for them. Not 100% because I haven't owned ventures in probably 10 years.

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« Reply #2707 on: October 06, 2017, 10:53:29 AM »
will krux cushions work in Ventures? purple stocks are a tad too squishy for me.
I believe the bottom bushing will be too tall for them. Not 100% because I haven't owned ventures in probably 10 years.

Krux bottoms are taller than everything but ACEs (and I think Thunder bottoms), I doubt they would fit properly in Ventures.

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« Reply #2708 on: October 06, 2017, 01:56:59 PM »
looks like the krux bottoms are about 2-3 mm taller than the stock venture purples. is this going to throw the geometry off at all? they seem pretty tight with the nut flush but i can't actually skate em today because it's been raining on and off.

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« Reply #2709 on: October 06, 2017, 03:03:16 PM »
looks like the krux bottoms are about 2-3 mm taller than the stock venture purples. is this going to throw the geometry off at all? they seem pretty tight with the nut flush but i can't actually skate em today because it's been raining on and off.
DLX supercush, indy aftermarkets, and doh-dohs fit Ventures perfectly. There's tons of options.  If you want to pack out some krux ones though, go for it, it shouldn't be that bad.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2710 on: October 06, 2017, 03:14:42 PM »
looks like the krux bottoms are about 2-3 mm taller than the stock venture purples. is this going to throw the geometry off at all? they seem pretty tight with the nut flush but i can't actually skate em today because it's been raining on and off.
DLX supercush, indy aftermarkets, and doh-dohs fit Ventures perfectly. There's tons of options.  If you want to pack out some krux ones though, go for it, it shouldn't be that bad.

I wanted to try something different and it seems like the krux cushions get a lot of love on here. i'm curious if the formula is really any different than the indy aftermarkets.

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« Reply #2711 on: October 07, 2017, 05:53:12 PM »
looks like the krux bottoms are about 2-3 mm taller than the stock venture purples. is this going to throw the geometry off at all? they seem pretty tight with the nut flush but i can't actually skate em today because it's been raining on and off.
DLX supercush, indy aftermarkets, and doh-dohs fit Ventures perfectly. There's tons of options.  If you want to pack out some krux ones though, go for it, it shouldn't be that bad.

I wanted to try something different and it seems like the krux cushions get a lot of love on here. i'm curious if the formula is really any different than the indy aftermarkets.

Picked up some aftermarket indy 90a cylinders today, they're about 1-3mm shorter than the krux, whereas the indy conicals are the same height as krux, not sure why the aftermarket cylinders are shorter than the conicals...and the conical tops are shorter than the aftermarket cylinder tops...also, the stock indy cylinders are the same height as the krux. Anyway...

Been running my 144 Indys with bones mediums (no washers) and 144 thunders with 88 conical indys (and bones washers top and bottom), skated each for a week straight.

The Thunders really feel great with these bushings, probably the most dialed I've been able to get them, but for now I'm switching back to indys as I've been skating a 90% transition park and I've come to find that what I really like about thunders is the reset to center whereas the indys, with conicals, feel a bit wobblier on return, so I'm trying out 90a cylinders and 88a tops (with washers) for a bit more stability.

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« Reply #2712 on: October 08, 2017, 01:39:30 PM »
Might be of some use to somebody - lately I've switched from a full set of Bones medium in a pair of Ace 44s to stock Ace bushings on the bottom and Bones on the top.  So far so good - everything feels notably better.

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« Reply #2713 on: October 08, 2017, 03:41:52 PM »
How many axle washers do you guys run? Trying to prevent some axle slips.

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« Reply #2714 on: October 08, 2017, 03:48:04 PM »
How many axle washers do you guys run? Trying to prevent some axle slips.
2 on the inside one on the outside of each wheel. 12 total.

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« Reply #2715 on: October 08, 2017, 03:51:03 PM »
Thanks for the quick reply, I'll definitely try that ratio out, I was gonna run two inside and two outiside but was kinda sketched my axle nut wouldn't be tight enough and fall off.

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« Reply #2716 on: October 08, 2017, 04:16:05 PM »
How many axle washers do you guys run? Trying to prevent some axle slips.
2 on the inside one on the outside of each wheel. 12 total.

Same here (depending on wheels) keeps the nut right at the end of the axle combating primo lands.

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« Reply #2717 on: October 08, 2017, 04:27:18 PM »
How many axle washers do you guys run? Trying to prevent some axle slips.
2 on the inside one on the outside of each wheel. 12 total.

Ran the same set up with standard Indy nuts but switching over to the smaller Ace nuts makes it impossible

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« Reply #2718 on: October 08, 2017, 05:03:10 PM »
Reynolds put this up and i'm sure a few in here could relate heavily


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2719 on: October 08, 2017, 07:00:18 PM »
55??

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« Reply #2720 on: October 08, 2017, 07:51:54 PM »
55mm is a magical size.

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« Reply #2721 on: October 08, 2017, 08:32:34 PM »
55 is the biggest you can go and not feel like you're riding a cruiser

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2722 on: October 08, 2017, 09:26:48 PM »
How many axle washers do you guys run? Trying to prevent some axle slips.
2 on the inside one on the outside of each wheel. 12 total.

Ran the same set up with standard Indy nuts but switching over to the smaller Ace nuts makes it impossible

I've mentioned this before and will do it any time someone even mentions washers......check out race reds....you can crank your axel nuts tight.....no bullshit backing off a quarter turn....

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« Reply #2723 on: October 09, 2017, 06:43:52 AM »
55 is the biggest you can go and not feel like you're riding a cruiser

At some point in the 80s OJ made their 'street razor' wheel in 55mm, it was the smallest wheel to hit at that time and we flipped out over it. Only got smaller from there!

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« Reply #2724 on: October 09, 2017, 07:44:04 AM »
I stuck a set of gizmos in my mouth......


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« Reply #2725 on: October 09, 2017, 10:31:56 AM »
Might be of some use to somebody - lately I've switched from a full set of Bones medium in a pair of Ace 44s to stock Ace bushings on the bottom and Bones on the top.  So far so good - everything feels notably better.

Do you use washers with the stock Ace bushing on the bottom? Interested in trying this setup.

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« Reply #2726 on: October 09, 2017, 07:43:58 PM »
Might be of some use to somebody - lately I've switched from a full set of Bones medium in a pair of Ace 44s to stock Ace bushings on the bottom and Bones on the top.  So far so good - everything feels notably better.

Do you use washers with the stock Ace bushing on the bottom? Interested in trying this setup.

I'm curious about this too.  My Ace bushings are getting to the point of being too soft... I tried Krux bushings pretty soon after getting my 44's and those were crazy loose for me.  Wondering if there's a good aftermarket option is a slightly harder durometer.  I'm a bigger dude, and at 33 have a hard time getting out more than a couple days a week.  Maybe I should just buy Ace aftermarkets, fight through the break in period and keep swapping them out when they get to the point there currently at?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2727 on: October 10, 2017, 03:15:45 AM »
Might be of some use to somebody - lately I've switched from a full set of Bones medium in a pair of Ace 44s to stock Ace bushings on the bottom and Bones on the top.  So far so good - everything feels notably better.

Do you use washers with the stock Ace bushing on the bottom? Interested in trying this setup.

I'm curious about this too.  My Ace bushings are getting to the point of being too soft... I tried Krux bushings pretty soon after getting my 44's and those were crazy loose for me.  Wondering if there's a good aftermarket option is a slightly harder durometer.  I'm a bigger dude, and at 33 have a hard time getting out more than a couple days a week.  Maybe I should just buy Ace aftermarkets, fight through the break in period and keep swapping them out when they get to the point there currently at?

I rock Doh Doh’s in my Aces. In the high’s they fit seamlessly using the stock washers, in the lows I remove the bottom washer so they are the right height.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2728 on: October 10, 2017, 10:49:54 AM »
Might be of some use to somebody - lately I've switched from a full set of Bones medium in a pair of Ace 44s to stock Ace bushings on the bottom and Bones on the top.  So far so good - everything feels notably better.

Do you use washers with the stock Ace bushing on the bottom? Interested in trying this setup.


I'm curious about this too.  My Ace bushings are getting to the point of being too soft... I tried Krux bushings pretty soon after getting my 44's and those were crazy loose for me.  Wondering if there's a good aftermarket option is a slightly harder durometer.  I'm a bigger dude, and at 33 have a hard time getting out more than a couple days a week.  Maybe I should just buy Ace aftermarkets, fight through the break in period and keep swapping them out when they get to the point there currently at?

I rock Doh Doh’s in my Aces. In the high’s they fit seamlessly using the stock washers, in the lows I remove the bottom washer so they are the right height.

What durometer Doh Doh's do you use?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #2729 on: October 10, 2017, 11:43:21 AM »
Might be of some use to somebody - lately I've switched from a full set of Bones medium in a pair of Ace 44s to stock Ace bushings on the bottom and Bones on the top.  So far so good - everything feels notably better.

Do you use washers with the stock Ace bushing on the bottom? Interested in trying this setup.

I'm curious about this too.  My Ace bushings are getting to the point of being too soft... I tried Krux bushings pretty soon after getting my 44's and those were crazy loose for me.  Wondering if there's a good aftermarket option is a slightly harder durometer.  I'm a bigger dude, and at 33 have a hard time getting out more than a couple days a week.  Maybe I should just buy Ace aftermarkets, fight through the break in period and keep swapping them out when they get to the point there currently at?

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