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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3000 on: December 14, 2017, 12:53:46 PM »
you guys who think indys are too tall...how does max manage to skate them with 1/4" risers in the 917 video? By my calculations that's a little over 60mm tall. kinda wanna try that with soft or super soft aftermarkets.

There's no rule that your truck setup has to be a certain height to skate, eric winkowski rides pretty tall too. Its all preference, Stage 11s with 55mm wheels is the tallest I can go without feeling outta wack.

Let us all take a moment of silence for all our brothers and sisters who are dealing with truck madness. We have reached page 100 and shown the world that itís not easy, but weíre strong as one. *holds back tears*

Many people could be cured of truck madness if Indy lowered the stage 11 by a mm and a half, and if thunder raised everything 1 mm across the board.

The Indy forged plates are exactly what youíre looking for, then. Yeah, theyíre more expensive but I think itís worth it. Iíve broken a bunch of baseplates and warped cast Indy ones at the pivot from doing slappies. Thunder should be making 53-53.5 tall trucks, I agree. I also agree that the baseplate not going past the hanger for slides is a design flaw.

I donít know, I tried the forged titanium thunders with a 1/8Ē riser and the turn really wasnít much better than Indyís sluggish turn. I also noticed how even though the hanger metal is the same as an Indy, the Thunders were so sticky on grinds it was unbearable. I could throw on some Indyís and grind the same rail and theyíd glide like butter. It made no sense.

Cool! I just went to check em out, I didn't know there was that much of a difference in height. I gotta get my hands on some.
I have some forged baseplates I could send you for free if you want.

Really? That would be pretty righteous! I'll send you something too, I've got a good amount of spare bits around.. Anything you've been looking for?
Naw donít worry about it Iím not really looking for anything. Just have too much shit from truck madness and hate seeing it sit around going to waste so I always like to send it out or give it away to make myself feel better about being greedy and needlessly buying trucks like a psychopath. I blame rob he almost made me buy minilogo trucks once, when I told the dude at my skate shop all the pros I had heard about them from rob they denied it all and spared me. Destructo D2 are pretty sweet though. I just went and bought brand new thunders not worrying about any kooky colours just set them up and skate and guess why? Freaking rob told me to and he makes it sound so good. Just dm me your shipping address.

The thunders are still good in my books, theyíve been doing so good for me. My awesome white and blue suciu hollow lights

The mini logos are good, just theyíre kinda too low and the kingpins get loose. Overall though theyíre good, for a low truck thatís light, turns well, and responds well

Destructo d2 are good? How do you know?

Giving my ole 139 forged hollow Indyís a try for giggles and so far theyíre not all that great like everyone says, they turn well and feel good but pop response is too tall and lags by half a second or whole second

Thunders are best
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« Reply #3001 on: December 14, 2017, 02:05:45 PM »
Just switched out my hollow indy 149's for thunder ti light 149's, what a world of difference. Stock tightness is perfect and pop response is on the money. Flip tricks just feel right, and the bushings aren't all noisy and shit

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« Reply #3002 on: December 14, 2017, 02:30:03 PM »
you guys who think indys are too tall...how does max manage to skate them with 1/4" risers in the 917 video? By my calculations that's a little over 60mm tall. kinda wanna try that with soft or super soft aftermarkets.

There's no rule that your truck setup has to be a certain height to skate, eric winkowski rides pretty tall too. Its all preference, Stage 11s with 55mm wheels is the tallest I can go without feeling outta wack.

Let us all take a moment of silence for all our brothers and sisters who are dealing with truck madness. We have reached page 100 and shown the world that it’s not easy, but we’re strong as one. *holds back tears*

Many people could be cured of truck madness if Indy lowered the stage 11 by a mm and a half, and if thunder raised everything 1 mm across the board.

The Indy forged plates are exactly what you’re looking for, then. Yeah, they’re more expensive but I think it’s worth it. I’ve broken a bunch of baseplates and warped cast Indy ones at the pivot from doing slappies. Thunder should be making 53-53.5 tall trucks, I agree. I also agree that the baseplate not going past the hanger for slides is a design flaw.

I don’t know, I tried the forged titanium thunders with a 1/8” riser and the turn really wasn’t much better than Indy’s sluggish turn. I also noticed how even though the hanger metal is the same as an Indy, the Thunders were so sticky on grinds it was unbearable. I could throw on some Indy’s and grind the same rail and they’d glide like butter. It made no sense.

Cool! I just went to check em out, I didn't know there was that much of a difference in height. I gotta get my hands on some.
I have some forged baseplates I could send you for free if you want.

Really? That would be pretty righteous! I'll send you something too, I've got a good amount of spare bits around.. Anything you've been looking for?
Naw don’t worry about it I’m not really looking for anything. Just have too much shit from truck madness and hate seeing it sit around going to waste so I always like to send it out or give it away to make myself feel better about being greedy and needlessly buying trucks like a psychopath. I blame rob he almost made me buy minilogo trucks once, when I told the dude at my skate shop all the pros I had heard about them from rob they denied it all and spared me. Destructo D2 are pretty sweet though. I just went and bought brand new thunders not worrying about any kooky colours just set them up and skate and guess why? Freaking rob told me to and he makes it sound so good. Just dm me your shipping address.

The thunders are still good in my books, they’ve been doing so good for me. My awesome white and blue suciu hollow lights

The mini logos are good, just they’re kinda too low and the kingpins get loose. Overall though they’re good, for a low truck that’s light, turns well, and responds well

Destructo d2 are good? How do you know?

Giving my ole 139 forged hollow Indy’s a try for giggles and so far they’re not all that great like everyone says, they turn well and feel good but pop response is too tall and lags by half a second or whole second

Thunders are best
1985 boardshop in Victoria Canada stocks destructos, he got some 300 pairs for a deal they have (or had) lows as well I know you’ve been looking for that but the shipping probably would not be worth it if you’re American. I tried the D2 lites and they weren’t bad at all similar feel to a silver M class, they advertise everything as aircraft grade aluminum and apparently they have a similar warranty as independents. I just felt they were a bit too high for me, and fabrizio santos was the only reason I bought destructos anyways. They actually are well made trucks I just like the aesthetic of thunders the best and I think it’s the best overall truck package for me. I just went and purchased 148 titanium teams and have ridden them for a few days now without any adjustments or bushing swaps. I will admit, my guilty pleasure is tensor mag regulars. They are expensive and last for maybe a month but they make skateboarding feel different because of how they slide and how light they are. Like using a Powell flight deck you can do some things differently but they get destroyed quick.
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« Reply #3003 on: December 14, 2017, 02:41:13 PM »
No lie this is how they look after the first session. I had to stop buying them.

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« Reply #3004 on: December 14, 2017, 02:41:26 PM »
Yeah so far out of every truck Iíve tried thunders havenít failed me

Thanks for the heads up, I got some destructo lows on reserve til they restock them on skate warehouse so looking forward to those now

But In the mean time I think Iím gonna stick to my thunders, they seem low but theyíre actually on point with the height for my medium tight preference

Itís funny how they mold 147 on the hangars now not just all the bigger sizes
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« Reply #3005 on: December 14, 2017, 02:57:38 PM »
Yeah so far out of every truck Iíve tried thunders havenít failed me

Thanks for the heads up, I got some destructo lows on reserve til they restock them on skate warehouse so looking forward to those now

But In the mean time I think Iím gonna stick to my thunders, they seem low but theyíre actually on point with the height for my medium tight preference

Itís funny how they mold 147 on the hangars now not just all the bigger sizes

That seems to be a big factor deciding between indy and thunder these days. I like my thunders medium/medium tight too, and indys seem to feel best loosened up..

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« Reply #3006 on: December 14, 2017, 05:01:24 PM »
I tried out my stock thunder 148 today and my only complaint was noseslides felt foreign because my 99a f4 spitfires were sticking and I didnít want to wax the side of the ledge. Otherwise, they felt nicer than new aces I skated on the same deck. I also relearned switch front boardslide.
I take everything I said back. The board hit me in the nuts for the first time ever today, because i was wearing these shits.

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« Reply #3007 on: December 14, 2017, 09:16:27 PM »
Just got that one on a flatbar....you're set up is looking increasingly normal.....good on ya....

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« Reply #3008 on: December 14, 2017, 11:54:11 PM »
Yeah so far out of every truck Iíve tried thunders havenít failed me

Thanks for the heads up, I got some destructo lows on reserve til they restock them on skate warehouse so looking forward to those now

But In the mean time I think Iím gonna stick to my thunders, they seem low but theyíre actually on point with the height for my medium tight preference

Itís funny how they mold 147 on the hangars now not just all the bigger sizes

That seems to be a big factor deciding between indy and thunder these days. I like my thunders medium/medium tight too, and indys seem to feel best loosened up..

Yeah Indyís are odd when they donít have a smooth looseness to them. Theyíre not the type to have twitchy like thunders
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« Reply #3009 on: December 15, 2017, 05:13:00 AM »
I've been skating Thunder 149's for almost 10 years now (since they come out). Switched to the soft bones bushings about 5 years back, never going back to stock. Stopped putting the bottom washer on 2ish years ago, and in the last 6 months lost the top washers as well. Also bumped from 53/54mm to strictly 55mm Formula Fours. Waxing the wheelbite wells has become mandatory each session, but I love how they feel.

Has anyone here jumped from Thunder 149's to 151's? Just curious if there's any noticeable difference, Thanks in advance!

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« Reply #3010 on: December 15, 2017, 06:47:31 AM »
149vs the 151
I own both and I ride 8.5 boards I like the 151 because I like the wheels to stick out alittle.
They both are the same height just the 151 turns slightly slower than the 149.

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« Reply #3011 on: December 15, 2017, 07:49:05 AM »
Just got that one on a flatbar....you're set up is looking increasingly normal.....good on ya....
Nah, going to pound out kingpin and put in the downlow mod.  Not enough clearance for me.
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« Reply #3012 on: December 16, 2017, 01:49:23 AM »
Update on the 139 Indy forged hollows on an 8.06 krooked: the doh dohs feel way better than the stock or bones(medium and hard) I have the 92a yellow doh doh mediums and I feel the weight scale doh doh uses for finding the right Durometer for your trucks is the perfect guide

I couldnít figure out which hardness to get and the scale was saying my little 135lb butt should use the yellow and theyíre awesome so far on the Indyís

My thunder 147 hollow lights are still top #1 but ima keep checking these Indyís out for now and try to figure out why most of you still Love Indyís
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« Reply #3013 on: December 16, 2017, 02:58:31 PM »
Scratch that, Indyís are still trash to me compared to thunders.

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« Reply #3014 on: December 20, 2017, 01:04:11 PM »
Love this subject, and had to join slap because of it. My latest creation I'm working on is the lightest 8.5 width hanger truck I can Frankenstein together which is a theeve tiH hanger i think in size 5.85 with theeve hollow titanium kingpin with Acer racing titanium truck hardware and theeve ti mounting bolts but have not decided on a baseplate. The original theeve one is stupid heavy and the hole point of my creation is lost. What baseplate would be the lightest yet be close to the original geometry theeve had? Thunder forged, independent forged, ace mag baseplate? Any thoughts/input would be awasome.

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« Reply #3015 on: December 20, 2017, 01:15:53 PM »
Regular everyday setup is a Indy ti 144 but riding thunder ti 148 right now with bones hards with flat top and bottom washer for thunders. In indys I'll ride black hard Indy replacement barrel bottoms with bones hards on top. Both around the nut flush with the kingpin. Dont know how you guys use bones softs, they last like a week unless your super light, might as well use life saver gummies.

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« Reply #3016 on: December 20, 2017, 04:52:07 PM »
Does anyone have any tips on breaking in Indy's? I'm going to pick up some 149's soon and it's probably been two years since my last pair of new trucks, which I rode with already used bushings. How great are those aftermarket cylinder bushings, and should I grab those at the same time?
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« Reply #3017 on: December 20, 2017, 06:09:26 PM »
Does anyone have any tips on breaking in Indy's? I'm going to pick up some 149's soon and it's probably been two years since my last pair of new trucks, which I rode with already used bushings. How great are those aftermarket cylinder bushings, and should I grab those at the same time?

In my experience, yes get the aftermarkets. I ran my stock bushings medium tight for a month or so and they never stopped making noise. Put in aftermarket mediums and kept the nut flush with the top of the kingpin and had way better results

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« Reply #3018 on: December 20, 2017, 06:23:16 PM »
Does anyone have any tips on breaking in Indy's? I'm going to pick up some 149's soon and it's probably been two years since my last pair of new trucks, which I rode with already used bushings. How great are those aftermarket cylinder bushings, and should I grab those at the same time?

yes, with the aftermarket, tighten to flush and then don't touch em and they'll be perfect
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« Reply #3019 on: December 21, 2017, 06:31:04 AM »
I tried out my stock thunder 148 today and my only complaint was noseslides felt foreign because my 99a f4 spitfires were sticking and I didnít want to wax the side of the ledge. Otherwise, they felt nicer than new aces I skated on the same deck. I also relearned switch front boardslide.

switched up to thunders from independent recently, i ended up with some fancy ass ones since they were the only pair the shop had in 149, ti hollow lights. uhhhh, they turn a bit different and are ever so slightly lower but the main difference i feel is the weight. i'm not sure it matters though. i guess i don't have the madness.

oh yea i concur with noseslides feeling a bit weird.

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« Reply #3020 on: December 24, 2017, 03:01:46 PM »
So Iím not sure where else to post this but I was thinking about how after Christmas I wanna order some stuff online since my locals donít carry it. Does going from a warm climate in Cali to a freezing cold climate where Iím at affect any gear like decks or trucks? I think of how extreme temperature changes can mess up a guitar, could it do the same to a board? Trucks would probably be unaffected since theyíre metal, Iím assuming?

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« Reply #3021 on: December 24, 2017, 04:39:14 PM »
So Iím not sure where else to post this but I was thinking about how after Christmas I wanna order some stuff online since my locals donít carry it. Does going from a warm climate in Cali to a freezing cold climate where Iím at affect any gear like decks or trucks? I think of how extreme temperature changes can mess up a guitar, could it do the same to a board? Trucks would probably be unaffected since theyíre metal, Iím assuming?

You're in deep trouble. Ordering trucks between the Winter Solstice and Spring Equinox is just asking for bushing problems. Sit tight until Spring.

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« Reply #3022 on: December 24, 2017, 05:48:55 PM »
Lol fuck I guess Iím a ďkookĒ for asking that question. Iíd be using aftermarket bushings and theyíd warm up for a bit before I set it all up. I guess I was mostly concerned about the board becoming weaker through temperature extremes, warping, etc. but also wondered if maybe the axles or kingpins could get weakened and more prone to bending/breaking from temperature changes as well.

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« Reply #3023 on: December 24, 2017, 06:41:07 PM »
the first time I moved to an area where it really snowed it fucked up my bushings for sure

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« Reply #3024 on: December 25, 2017, 11:00:51 AM »
Lol fuck I guess Iím a ďkookĒ for asking that question. Iíd be using aftermarket bushings and theyíd warm up for a bit before I set it all up. I guess I was mostly concerned about the board becoming weaker through temperature extremes, warping, etc. but also wondered if maybe the axles or kingpins could get weakened and more prone to bending/breaking from temperature changes as well.
Everything below 0'C will make your gear stiff and thus more prone to damage,even trucks can crack faster when skating or during transport...I do skate thou even if it's - C outside, just needs to be dry...nothing can beat the streets
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« Reply #3025 on: December 26, 2017, 10:46:57 PM »
I THINK I found the perfect truck setup. Indy 149s with the conical 90a bushings, tighten it to flush, then a 180 degree turn loosened. Stable, but so flowy and surfy. The one downside is they turn a little slower than Thunders, but they're definitely more stable and comfortable.
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« Reply #3026 on: December 27, 2017, 08:39:57 AM »
I THINK I found the perfect truck setup. Indy 149s with the conical 90a bushings, tighten it to flush, then a 180 degree turn loosened. Stable, but so flowy and surfy. The one downside is they turn a little slower than Thunders, but they're definitely more stable and comfortable.

My bet on the perfect setup is indy 159s with forged baseplates!

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« Reply #3027 on: December 27, 2017, 09:48:37 AM »
to each his own, mine is the Nephertitties, 149 indys with black barrel aftermarket bushings, still great after one year

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« Reply #3028 on: December 27, 2017, 02:23:14 PM »
to each his own, mine is the Nephertitties, 149 indys with black barrel aftermarket bushings, still great after one year
My bad, it should have read "perfect setup for me". This setup wouldn't work for any of my friends, let alone everyone.
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« Reply #3029 on: December 28, 2017, 08:52:26 AM »
What's the order for breaking in Thunders? Leave at stock for 3 full sessions then good?

Only asking cuz it's been like 4 degrees lately so I haven't gotten out there to get em broken in. And I forgot the consensus way of breaking em in.
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