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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3060 on: January 02, 2018, 09:58:47 PM »
What truck company has the closest base plate/ kingpin geometry as theeve. Need to know for my Frankenstein truck. Damn the truck madness

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« Reply #3061 on: January 02, 2018, 10:10:48 PM »
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« Reply #3062 on: January 02, 2018, 10:12:42 PM »
I owe my homies $100 each if I change my trucks out this year. My madness has subsided...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3063 on: January 02, 2018, 10:22:53 PM »
What truck company has the closest base plate/ kingpin geometry as theeve. Need to know for my Frankenstein truck. Damn the truck madness

I think Iíve seen Xen say on here that the original Theeve prototypes used Ace baseplates or something along those lines. Would be interesting to see a Theeve Tiax combined with those Ace magnesium baseplates if the geometry worked

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« Reply #3064 on: January 02, 2018, 10:40:21 PM »
You mean TIH.....I was so close to doing it.....someone posted the mags were for lo's?  I've thought of swapping out my theeve base plates w. Regular aces to alleviate that horrible imprint on theeves..... They say....'theeve' on them which inevitably gives me a complex...

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« Reply #3065 on: January 03, 2018, 07:19:30 AM »
What truck company has the closest base plate/ kingpin geometry as theeve. Need to know for my Frankenstein truck. Damn the truck madness

I think Iíve seen Xen say on here that the original Theeve prototypes used Ace baseplates or something along those lines. Would be interesting to see a Theeve Tiax combined with those Ace magnesium baseplates if the geometry worked

The Theeve V1s and the TiH had that Ace style hanger and turn great, so I wouldn't be surprised if they copied ace's geometry. ACE's don't have the oval yoke in the hanger tho so I'd also like to frankenstein some Mag Theeves... good idea sir
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3066 on: January 03, 2018, 07:23:28 AM »
I just got a polar 1991 deck that is tapered from 9.25 at the front truck to 8.75 at the back truck. Do I go with Indy 159s or 169s?

159s.  You could use 169s but the overhang in the rear would drive me insane

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3067 on: January 03, 2018, 07:59:14 AM »
I just got a polar 1991 deck that is tapered from 9.25 at the front truck to 8.75 at the back truck. Do I go with Indy 159s or 169s?

I think you should spend about 5 to 7 days losing sleep over it first and then make the wrong decision.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3068 on: January 03, 2018, 11:58:42 AM »
I Would love some mag ace plates but the problem is finding the damn thing, might have to just go original. Maybe some forged Indy plates would work since I have a pair laying around. Ive also heard ace and krux are both around the indy 3 geometry/design so maybe  forged krux. Rather have a 53mm tall truck over a 55mm for sure.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3069 on: January 03, 2018, 12:03:48 PM »
Could put a 159 on back, 169 up front. Heard hosoi mixes and matches his trucks and he says it works better for him some how.

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« Reply #3070 on: January 03, 2018, 12:55:35 PM »
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3071 on: January 03, 2018, 03:04:15 PM »
I Would love some mag ace plates but the problem is finding the damn thing, might have to just go original. Maybe some forged Indy plates would work since I have a pair laying around. Ive also heard ace and krux are both around the indy 3 geometry/design so maybe  forged krux. Rather have a 53mm tall truck over a 55mm for sure.
Aces are not 55mm high if that's what you were thinking. They list them at 52, but give or take a milimeter.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3072 on: January 03, 2018, 06:22:31 PM »
I just got a polar 1991 deck that is tapered from 9.25 at the front truck to 8.75 at the back truck. Do I go with Indy 159s or 169s?
Go for the 159. I find any board that tapers 59s fit perfect in between. Also you can move those trucks to the next board

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« Reply #3073 on: January 03, 2018, 06:39:40 PM »
I just got a polar 1991 deck that is tapered from 9.25 at the front truck to 8.75 at the back truck. Do I go with Indy 159s or 169s?
Go for the 159. I find any board that tapers 59s fit perfect in between. Also you can move those trucks to the next board

That's whats good about 159s, they can work on anything from 8.4/8.5 to a tapering 9!

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3074 on: January 03, 2018, 07:06:43 PM »
Hey, only indirectly related to trucks, but right up the alley for skaters who overthink shit....

Does a setup need to be able to wheelbite?  Does it make some tricks easier?

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« Reply #3075 on: January 03, 2018, 07:51:49 PM »
Hey, only indirectly related to trucks, but right up the alley for skaters who overthink shit....

Does a setup need to be able to wheelbite?  Does it make some tricks easier?

Well, wheelbite is never helpful.. but if your setup can't bite at all, it's probably too high.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3076 on: January 03, 2018, 07:52:29 PM »
Hey, only indirectly related to trucks, but right up the alley for skaters who overthink shit....

Does a setup need to be able to wheelbite?  Does it make some tricks easier?

If your saying when the truck is leaning so hard but isnít stopping you yet, some people have it that way for cheat 180 flip tricks, lean in wait to be at 45 degrees with wheel bite and flip it and maybe catch it

I do notice wheel bite does help people get a little more ease on leverage for flip tricks

Like since the board is already leaning that way popping it and flicking it the same direction doesnít need as much effort cause itís already going that way
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3077 on: January 03, 2018, 10:09:01 PM »
Not sure what exactly you guys are talking about but.......risers?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3078 on: January 03, 2018, 10:14:40 PM »
You know thatís been on my mind lately, cause I use to ride them religiously when I was skating like crazy in the 7.8 days with my krux 3.5 downlows and idk they did relieve some impact and gave a soft pop feeling to my decks but idk if I should go back cause metal to wood just feels right, so stiff and rigid not soft and dead

Does anyone here ride risers/shock pads?
And the soft one or stiff ones or straight up hard ones that really are just risers
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3079 on: January 03, 2018, 10:28:29 PM »
You know thatís been on my mind lately, cause I use to ride them religiously when I was skating like crazy in the 7.8 days with my krux 3.5 downlows and idk they did relieve some impact and gave a soft pop feeling to my decks but idk if I should go back cause metal to wood just feels right, so stiff and rigid not soft and dead

Does anyone here ride risers/shock pads?
And the soft one or stiff ones or straight up hard ones that really are just risers

I've been use the softer indy shock pads on all my setups for the past few years. I started doing so because I thought it helped a little bit with pressure cracks and snapping my boards in the nose/tail areas. It's also absorbs a little vibration on shit ground. I don't actually know for sure if it helps my boards last longer, but it feels like it does so I'm going with it.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3080 on: January 03, 2018, 10:37:47 PM »
I Would love some mag ace plates but the problem is finding the damn thing, might have to just go original. Maybe some forged Indy plates would work since I have a pair laying around. Ive also heard ace and krux are both around the indy 3 geometry/design so maybe  forged krux. Rather have a 53mm tall truck over a 55mm for sure.
Aces are not 55mm high if that's what you were thinking. They list them at 52, but give or take a milimeter.
 
Oh really for some reason always thought they are 55mm, now just have to find me a pair of the unicorn like mag baseplates.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3081 on: January 04, 2018, 01:33:32 AM »
I got my mag plates from here about a year ago:
http://www.skateprylar.se/produkt/ace-trucks-magnesium-baseplates/

Itís a Swedish shop but the dude was willing to help and delivered them to Finland. Dunno if heíll deliver elsewhere and if he does, what itíll cost but it doesnít hurt to ask if you really want them. 😊

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3082 on: January 05, 2018, 04:06:30 AM »
Hey, only indirectly related to trucks, but right up the alley for skaters who overthink shit....

Does a setup need to be able to wheelbite?  Does it make some tricks easier?

It might make some tricks easier (not sure which ones), but for the most part, some rail-to-rail slide pressure that comes from having some bushing tightness is necessary for doing a lot of flip trick, imo. Depends on preference and what works for you. For me: loose trucks are more enjoyable to ride around with, but tighter trucks enable me to do flip tricks a lot better/satisfactory.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3083 on: January 05, 2018, 05:18:53 AM »
After reading this thread and succumbing to the madness, I think I found a truck setup that alleviates the kingpin clearance and wheelbite issues that plague some of us Thunder users.

My Thunder Team 147 Hi's were starting to get worn down and the kingpin kept sticking, so I hammered it out and replaced with the Krux Downlow Kingpins. The baseplate crevice holds the nut perfectly, so no need for any JB weld or glue. No kingpin wiggle either...

I was previously running the soft white Thunder bushings and liked the looseness, but hated the wheelbite, so I decided to try the Krux Bushings everyone seems to rave about. After putting them in, the trucks felt too tight for my liking. To make them a little looser, I kept the Krux bottom barrel bushing and changed the top to a soft Thunder bushing.

I discovered that this combo seems to help minimize wheelbite, due to shape/hardness of the bottom barrel, yet keeps the trucks relatively loose due to the softer top. Been running this for the past few months with no problems.


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3084 on: January 05, 2018, 08:04:39 AM »
For those of you whoíve done the krux kingpin with thunders, How do they feel for smiths & feebles on rails? I ran that setup for a few months and my smiths/feebles on rails were wildly inconsistent. It would feel as if the hanger would often just roll over to the other side because thereís no kingpin to catch. Iíd never feel confident locking into them on rails but with the regular kingpin in thunders or like right now with my Theeves, theyíre totally fine. I dunno if I was just shitty at smiths/feebles during those months or if it actually was the lack of a taller kingpin to ďcatchĒ the rail and keep the grind centered

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« Reply #3085 on: January 05, 2018, 12:06:32 PM »
For those of you whoíve done the krux kingpin with thunders, How do they feel for smiths & feebles on rails? I ran that setup for a few months and my smiths/feebles on rails were wildly inconsistent. It would feel as if the hanger would often just roll over to the other side because thereís no kingpin to catch. Iíd never feel confident locking into them on rails but with the regular kingpin in thunders or like right now with my Theeves, theyíre totally fine. I dunno if I was just shitty at smiths/feebles during those months or if it actually was the lack of a taller kingpin to ďcatchĒ the rail and keep the grind centered

Don't think you're supposed to catch your kingpin on any sort of grind... The hanger is supposed to be on one side(eg your heel side for fs smiths/bs feebles) of the rail. Never noticed any issues when I had krux kingpins on my Thunder 149s.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3086 on: January 05, 2018, 01:04:58 PM »
Woah, gotta try that kingpin swap when my thunders wear down, would it be hard to knock out the pins on forged plates?
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« Reply #3087 on: January 05, 2018, 02:15:49 PM »
Woah, gotta try that kingpin swap when my thunders wear down, would it be hard to knock out the pins on forged plates?

I read somewhere that it's harder but I'm sure it will work with a good clamp/mallet and lots of willpower. Also apparently if you heat them up in the oven it makes it easier but I don't know for sure and that sounds like way too much work.

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« Reply #3088 on: January 05, 2018, 02:36:40 PM »
Woah, gotta try that kingpin swap when my thunders wear down, would it be hard to knock out the pins on forged plates?

I read somewhere that it's harder but I'm sure it will work with a good clamp/mallet and lots of willpower. Also apparently if you heat them up in the oven it makes it easier but I don't know for sure and that sounds like way too much work.

Right! Iím probably gonna just try to pound it out or press it out

I already have a set of very worn out hollow lights but the pivot stem got fucked too, like itís almost sharp and pointy cause didnít swap pivot cup when they were getting worn out

So not sure if itís even worth trying to give them more life
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« Reply #3089 on: January 05, 2018, 07:40:09 PM »
Getting the Thunder pin out isn't too hard (use a parking block with a deep hole, where the rebar is). Getting another pin in, good luck with that....as a) they don't sell forged pins and they are different than cast pins and B) Krux pins don't work as the plate is too thin and the nut will stick out. Better to just get new trucks.