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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3120 on: January 30, 2018, 10:37:02 PM »
I was extremely bored and got a case of the olí truck madness tonight. Started looking around at different companies online, the ones you never hear about anymore. Looks like Destructo is still alive and kicking. Anyone ever skate their ďD1 midsĒ? You can customize them with the hanger and baseplate of your liking, and they make magnesium baseplates which is interesting because I thought Ace was the only one whoís done that in recent years. Curious about their quality and how theyíll turn and grind. Isnít magnesium even lighter than a forged baseplate, btw?

From my experience with forged plates and magnesium trucks yes magnesium is lighter but weaker so it grinds down way faster

I been thinking to try their d1 lows but I donít think so anymore cause Iím very hooked on my thunder team 148!

Also someone here said theyíre not that great, they fall under the same category of feel and quality like silver and such under dog brands which from my experience again, not worth it

Silvers have the be the worse turning truck of today, just trash. Literally they are trash I wouldnít doubt bullet or industrial trucks are better
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3121 on: January 31, 2018, 05:11:17 AM »
Arto and Eniz ride destructos so they canít be as poor as Silvers... Homie who rides for Antiz got some when they made collabo with them and said theyíre just basic trucks, nothing too special.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3122 on: February 01, 2018, 12:20:56 AM »
Are black panther ceramic bearings good?

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« Reply #3123 on: February 01, 2018, 09:56:44 AM »
I got hooked up with these 149 Indys that my local shop did with Coors/Indy (as posted in my other thread) and decided to give them a spin yesterday (I wasn't sure I was going to even keep them).

I've been on Indys since 1980 and other than a few short experiments with other brands, I've basically skated nothing but Indy.

I posted this same setup here a few weeks ago when I first built it. I had Tensor Mag Light Low 5.5s on it originally as I wanted to try something new for the hell of it.

Honestly, the Tensors are fucking great. I like them alot. But I'm an Indy guy to the bone for sure and these immediately felt "right" as soon as I hit the ground rolling on them.

No Tensor hate AT ALL, but I'm an Indy man. I just added Bones Bushings to these and needed no break in time. I mix on soft, one medium bushing with my other pair of 159 Indys.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3124 on: February 01, 2018, 04:58:57 PM »
Arto and Eniz ride destructos so they can’t be as poor as Silvers... Homie who rides for Antiz got some when they made collabo with them and said they’re just basic trucks, nothing too special.

Dude rides indys.


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« Reply #3125 on: February 01, 2018, 08:02:15 PM »
After reading this thread and succumbing to the madness, I think I found a truck setup that alleviates the kingpin clearance and wheelbite issues that plague some of us Thunder users.

My Thunder Team 147 Hi's were starting to get worn down and the kingpin kept sticking, so I hammered it out and replaced with the Krux Downlow Kingpins. The baseplate crevice holds the nut perfectly, so no need for any JB weld or glue. No kingpin wiggle either...

I was previously running the soft white Thunder bushings and liked the looseness, but hated the wheelbite, so I decided to try the Krux Bushings everyone seems to rave about. After putting them in, the trucks felt too tight for my liking. To make them a little looser, I kept the Krux bottom barrel bushing and changed the top to a soft Thunder bushing.

I discovered that this combo seems to help minimize wheelbite, due to shape/hardness of the bottom barrel, yet keeps the trucks relatively loose due to the softer top. Been running this for the past few months with no problems.



How do you get the nut all the way up flush against the baseplate? On my Indy Stage 7ís and Aceís, I had to use a skinny blunt object and hammer the nut up in there because just trying to push with my thumb wasnít hard enough to scoot it all the way. With thunders can you just push the nut up in there with your finger or did you need to hammer it?

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« Reply #3126 on: February 01, 2018, 08:51:14 PM »
I ran this exact setup for a while, bottom barrel makes them feel very different in a good way.

No banging anything in, the nut fits fine in the plate, screw it in and good to go as long as you don't ride too loose and possibly unscrew it (I still use epoxy for peace of mind).

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3127 on: February 02, 2018, 10:50:01 AM »
Arto and Eniz ride destructos so they canít be as poor as Silvers... Homie who rides for Antiz got some when they made collabo with them and said theyíre just basic trucks, nothing too special.

Dude rides indys.


https://destructotrucks.com/products/d1-arto-saari-side-mission-mid
My bad, guess he is riding for them but not them..
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3128 on: February 09, 2018, 07:03:11 AM »
Did anyone save that Indy stage history from that other forum? Appears to be gone now .  :'(
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3129 on: February 09, 2018, 08:51:19 AM »
Did anyone save that Indy stage history from that other forum? Appears to be gone now .  :'(

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« Reply #3130 on: February 12, 2018, 05:50:36 AM »
I really want to try the newer Ace trucks since they fixed the bending issue but I like to ride my Indy 159 with my 8.5 boards. Ace 44 is too narrow and Ace 55 is too wide :(
I like my trucks to stick out alittle bit cause I like my grinding space but I find that the 55 will be longer than I want them.

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« Reply #3131 on: February 12, 2018, 07:50:39 AM »
Did someone post a photo of some trucks with holes drilled in to the hanger? I have been thinking about that... is it just plain stupidity?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3132 on: February 12, 2018, 08:19:56 AM »
Did someone post a photo of some trucks with holes drilled in to the hanger? I have been thinking about that... is it just plain stupidity?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3133 on: February 12, 2018, 09:00:34 AM »
^try it and send pics haha

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3134 on: February 12, 2018, 10:12:14 AM »
I really want to try the newer Ace trucks since they fixed the bending issue but I like to ride my Indy 159 with my 8.5 boards. Ace 44 is too narrow and Ace 55 is too wide :(
I like my trucks to stick out alittle bit cause I like my grinding space but I find that the 55 will be longer than I want them.

You're talking 1/16 of an inch each side when looking at the difference between 159s and 55s.

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« Reply #3135 on: February 12, 2018, 01:40:25 PM »
I guess I gotta go back the the skate shop and double check. I remember comparing the 55s they are closer to Indy 169s. I like how the wheels sticks out just alitttttle bit on 8.5 with 159s.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3136 on: February 12, 2018, 04:12:43 PM »
I skated 55s on an 8.5 and while it skated great despite making my setup really fucking heavy, it definitely stuck out a lot, undoubtedly closer to 169s than 159s. 159s are great for 8.5s, decided to go with 149s and run 2 washers on the inside though.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3137 on: February 12, 2018, 05:19:06 PM »
I skated 55s on an 8.5 and while it skated great despite making my setup really fucking heavy, it definitely stuck out a lot, undoubtedly closer to 169s than 159s. 159s are great for 8.5s, decided to go with 149s and run too washers on the inside though.

According to the manufacturer's charts you are correct. Ace lists the 55 @ 9" versus Independent's 159 @ 8.75" and 169 @ 9.125"

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« Reply #3138 on: February 12, 2018, 05:59:11 PM »
Thatís what Iím saying! I hate that the aces are in between sizes.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3139 on: February 12, 2018, 07:33:59 PM »
Anyone knows the perfect skate tool for Venture Trucks?
The usual cheapo plastic T-tool just doesn't do the job for the hardware bolts and the Kingpin bolts.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3140 on: February 12, 2018, 07:45:31 PM »
I skated 55s on an 8.5 and while it skated great despite making my setup really fucking heavy, it definitely stuck out a lot, undoubtedly closer to 169s than 159s. 159s are great for 8.5s, decided to go with 149s and run too washers on the inside though.

According to the manufacturer's charts you are correct. Ace lists the 55 @ 9" versus Independent's 159 @ 8.75" and 169 @ 9.125"

Yeah but 55s are actually 8 7/8" which is 1/8" wider than 159s. Like I said 1/16" each side... Measure them.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3141 on: February 12, 2018, 08:08:17 PM »


Here are my 55s, bang on 9 inches even with slightly bent axles. They do skate well on 8.5 boards though, so if you dont mind the heaviness, Id say give it a go. If you run no washers on the inside, the difference between 55s and 159s is minimal. Another thing you could do is get 44s and run like 3 washers on the inside, that works well for 8.5s too, pretty sure the axle is long enough.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3142 on: February 12, 2018, 08:23:55 PM »
Anyone knows the perfect skate tool for Venture Trucks?
The usual cheapo plastic T-tool just doesn't do the job for the hardware bolts and the Kingpin bolts.

The stuff you already have plus the cheapest 3/8" open end wrench you can find at Sears or Harbor Freight or your local core hardware store.

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« Reply #3143 on: February 12, 2018, 08:31:53 PM »
Anyone knows the perfect skate tool for Venture Trucks?
The usual cheapo plastic T-tool just doesn't do the job for the hardware bolts and the Kingpin bolts.

The stuff you already have plus the cheapest 3/8" open end wrench you can find at Sears or Harbor Freight or your local core hardware store.

I took a knife to my plastic T-tool and whittled down the plastic around the sockets, helps keep it nice and close to the nut! Definite improvement.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3144 on: February 12, 2018, 08:36:37 PM »
Anyone knows the perfect skate tool for Venture Trucks?
The usual cheapo plastic T-tool just doesn't do the job for the hardware bolts and the Kingpin bolts.

The stuff you already have plus the cheapest 3/8" open end wrench you can find at Sears or Harbor Freight or your local core hardware store.

I took a knife to my plastic T-tool and whittled down the plastic around the sockets, helps keep it nice and close to the nut! Definite improvement.

The Silver tool can reach the back bolts on ventures

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3145 on: February 12, 2018, 09:14:20 PM »
anyone skating Ace 55s with 8.5 deck can post a picture of the top of the deck to see how much axle sticks out?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3146 on: February 12, 2018, 09:24:03 PM »
anyone skating Ace 55s with 8.5 deck can post a picture of the top of the deck to see how much axle sticks out?

I'd set it up and send a pic but I have a broken wrist and cant set up a board. Here are two pics on my phone. The top view is on an 8.62, and you can see that even with the 8.62 the wheels are visible from above, it's a little more obvious in person too. Definitely quite noticeable with an 8.5. The pic of the actual truck is with an 8.5 deck, excuse the awful real graphic.

Note that the axles are 9 inches long, but the actual hangar isnt that much wider than 159mm, they're about 161 or 162mm. So if you don't run inner washers, they won't really feel that much wider than 159s, you'll just have some unsightly axles sticking out.



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« Reply #3147 on: February 12, 2018, 09:34:31 PM »
Thanks for sharing the pictures.
Ace needs a 8.3-8.6 range :(

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« Reply #3148 on: February 13, 2018, 03:09:56 PM »
Thanks for sharing the pictures.
Ace needs a 8.3-8.6 range :(

Here's a crazy idea: ride the 44's

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« Reply #3149 on: February 13, 2018, 03:23:34 PM »
I used to skate 44s back in the day but I always felt they werenít wide enough for true 8.5 deck and since 159s were avail Iíve been riding since. I love that hanger space of the 55s but thatís just too much axle for my liking and the 44s are the opposite. If I rode 8.375 boards I would do the 44s
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