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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3240 on: March 01, 2018, 11:19:32 PM »
The madness came back and I had to kill my curiosity with my stage 10 149ís cause stop lying to yourselves the stage 11 no matter what size stage 11 feel tipsy with that 55mm height plus your 53mm-55mm wheels cause 52mm and under are for wussies that only skate flat

The stage 10 149 standards feel so goood!

Stage 12 should definitely take a dial back and be that 53.5mm height on standard casts, my kickflips were actually being caught better and maybe a little higher than compared to my favorite thunder 148 lights,

The stage 10 have this solid control feel to them, they just lack that deep crazy turn on stage 11 but I really donít see it as a big deal, also Iím sure the bones bushing craze came from them mainly being used in stage 10ís cause they felt crazy good and stable compared to bones mediums in stage 11 139 and 149 that I have tried

Iím gonna be so sad the day these stage 10ís are done

Also I got the madness from watching some old Levi brown footage and about the stage 10 149ís
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« Reply #3241 on: March 02, 2018, 10:40:08 AM »



Went with Thunder Team hollow 149s instead of Ace 44s. The Aces was just either too much truck or too little truck for 8.5s

Im riding them stock bushings but the top one cut in half with only bottom washer

How did you chop the top bushing with (and how without losing fingers)? I set up my thunders today (thunder OG bottom with a bones thin washer) and    stopped there knowing I need a low top or chop the one I have.

At home I took an old deck and started sanding the bushing down with the grip tape. If I was at my work shop I have clamps benches and saws.
Actually I sanded alittle more so I can fit the top washer and have my kingpin bolt flush with some wobble.




Got it! Just needed to find a deck with regular MOB on it; knocked it out in a few min, might have gone too low, we'll see.

Took a break from my Theeves and put the Thunders on a different set-up...pretty impressed with the stock bottom and sanded down top...I did sand them down a bit too much and have to go passed my usually OCD of flush nuts, but whatever. They felt super carvey this loose without being too wobbly, felt a bit unstable at center, but coming off of theeves almost anything will, something I could never dial in because of how short the kingpins are and how tall the bottom bushing is as that combo didn't leave much room to get them loose enough for how I like my trucks (with bones softs they were too loose).

Will go back to theeves tho, too much wheel bite on the thunders on tranny with 53s, just need to find the right bushings on theeves as the Khiros flattened out really fast and my trucks were wobbly as shit off the ground, click clakity wobbly.

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« Reply #3242 on: March 02, 2018, 01:35:56 PM »
I'm starting to settle into Indys for bigger decks and thunders for smaller setups. I've got an 8.2 and .25 with 148/149 thunders and two 8.6s with 149/159 indys. The height and turn of stage 11s suits bigger wheels too.

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« Reply #3243 on: March 02, 2018, 01:51:04 PM »
I'm starting to settle into Indys for bigger decks and thunders for smaller setups. I've got an 8.2 and .25 with 148/149 thunders and two 8.6s with 149/159 indys. The height and turn of stage 11s suits bigger wheels too.

Honestly makes sense. Indys shrink WB and bigger boards tend to have a larger WB. As for the wheel clearance you definitely feel it. 
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« Reply #3244 on: March 02, 2018, 09:20:02 PM »
I'm starting to settle into Indys for bigger decks and thunders for smaller setups. I've got an 8.2 and .25 with 148/149 thunders and two 8.6s with 149/159 indys. The height and turn of stage 11s suits bigger wheels too.

Honestly makes sense. Indys shrink WB and bigger boards tend to have a larger WB. As for the wheel clearance you definitely feel it.

Oh yeah!! I think thatís why I prefer my stage 10ís also, they shrink the wheelbase on this krazy krooked 8.1 with a 14.4 wheelbase

The thunder 148 were nice and quick and have this pop to them but the Indyís have just a more solid feel, like a reliable solid feel that gives me more confidence in my feel for tricks
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« Reply #3245 on: March 03, 2018, 05:14:53 AM »
Tempted to give Venture hi 5.8 raw polished a try. Brings me back to my first set of trucks. Since venture been on dlx have they fixed the kingpin/baseplate breaking issue?



Kinda torn between the polished one or the regular raw with red logo


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« Reply #3246 on: March 03, 2018, 12:02:46 PM »
Iíve never skated Ventures before. I noticed Matt Field still skates them after being on Aceís and Thunders in the past. Do Ventures have a good snappy quick turn? Or should I not kid myself and stick with Aceís still?

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« Reply #3247 on: March 03, 2018, 12:39:44 PM »
Iíve never skated Ventures before. I noticed Matt Field still skates them after being on Aceís and Thunders in the past. Do Ventures have a good snappy quick turn? Or should I not kid myself and stick with Aceís still?

Compared to Aces Ventures donít turn at all pretty much.

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« Reply #3248 on: March 03, 2018, 02:48:07 PM »
Just got the raw polished. They do turn but not in a way Indy turns since they stretch the wheelbase abit further out. Ventures turns straight while indy is curvy. I sanded the top bushing in half and I like that the board wobbles around while feeling very stable.

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« Reply #3249 on: March 03, 2018, 09:14:49 PM »
Just got the raw polished. They do turn but not in a way Indy turns since they stretch the wheelbase abit further out. Ventures turns straight while indy is curvy. I sanded the top bushing in half and I like that the board wobbles around while feeling very stable.
Did they come with silver or gold hardware? I ordered a set thinking they would have the silver hardware and nope, still gold, even though the pic said otherwise.  I hated it when they switched to gold and I was stoked when I saw the new raws with all silver.  Now if only they'd go back to green or blue bushings...

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« Reply #3250 on: March 04, 2018, 02:26:31 AM »
Iíve never skated Ventures before. I noticed Matt Field still skates them after being on Aceís and Thunders in the past. Do Ventures have a good snappy quick turn? Or should I not kid myself and stick with Aceís still?

Compared to Aces Ventures donít turn at all pretty much.

Going from Ace to Venture sounds like a death sentence.

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« Reply #3251 on: March 04, 2018, 06:53:09 AM »
The highs would probably be a bit different....maybe a deeper turning radius but arguably a venture is the opposite of an ACE.....

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« Reply #3252 on: March 04, 2018, 08:19:56 AM »
Ventures do not turn anything like Ace but itís like a slower version of Thunder. Man these trucks grind feels so good. Itís a perfect street truck. On transition itís deff not as carvy as Indy or Ace.

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« Reply #3253 on: March 04, 2018, 10:43:19 AM »
Ventures do not turn anything like Ace but itís like a slower version of Thunder. Man these trucks grind feels so good. Itís a perfect street truck. On transition itís deff not as carvy as Indy or Ace.

I compare Ventures to Toyotaís in the sense that their turn style may seem somewhat ďblandĒ compared something like surfy Aces or sharp-turning Thunders, but its super reliable and well rounded for all situations. I donít like how thunders feel in transition and probably vice versa with some Aces and tech skating but ventures can reliably do both.

And yeah that hanger does grind like a beast




Iím not gonna hype them up too much tho or ima get tempted to skate my 5.8 V-Hollow Lights once again. The madness never stops
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« Reply #3254 on: March 04, 2018, 10:56:11 AM »
Just got the raw polished. They do turn but not in a way Indy turns since they stretch the wheelbase abit further out. Ventures turns straight while indy is curvy. I sanded the top bushing in half and I like that the board wobbles around while feeling very stable.
Did they come with silver or gold hardware? I ordered a set thinking they would have the silver hardware and nope, still gold, even though the pic said otherwise.  I hated it when they switched to gold and I was stoked when I saw the new raws with all silver.  Now if only they'd go back to green or blue bushings...

You can get deluxe supercush bushings in green still
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« Reply #3255 on: March 04, 2018, 11:18:13 AM »
I've been trying to break in a set of Indys for 2 weeks, tightening/loosening etc. Last night I put in a new set of Thunder 147s .. no tightening and skating was perfection. Part of me feels like I keep trying Indys in hopes of recapturing that stage 7 magic and it just isn't working. Also, I still love Ventures too. I find the Venture lo 5.25 and Thunder 147 hi to be very similar. Not in the ride itself but the technical aspects (I mean , tricks feel very similar)) to me on both). Thunders definitely have a looser turn that is fun but Ventures have a nice stability on landings. So I guess for now I'm going back n forth between Venture and Thunder
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« Reply #3256 on: March 04, 2018, 11:23:11 AM »
Also my set came with gold washers and purple bushings which i dont mind at all, it looks kinda bling.

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« Reply #3257 on: March 04, 2018, 12:01:03 PM »
I've been trying to break in a set of Indys for 2 weeks, tightening/loosening etc. Last night I put in a new set of Thunder 147s .. no tightening and skating was perfection. Part of me feels like I keep trying Indys in hopes of recapturing that stage 7 magic and it just isn't working. Also, I still love Ventures too. I find the Venture lo 5.25 and Thunder 147 hi to be very similar. Not in the ride itself but the technical aspects (I mean , tricks feel very similar)) to me on both). Thunders definitely have a looser turn that is fun but Ventures have a nice stability on landings. So I guess for now I'm going back n forth between Venture and Thunder

Must be stage 11, I love them but can never get them just right. Theyíre either too loose and no stability or too tight and barely any carve

The stage 10 with bones mediums is doing very nicely for me, but hearing your 147 joy I might switch it back down cause Iíve been on my 148 for the last month or 2 then recently a week ago wanted to see how it was when haslam and Levi brown were riding stg10 149 when they were busting out videos riding these babyís doing the craziest tricks

147 hi thunders are in the top 3 overall best trucks Forsure though, besides being in my top 3

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« Reply #3258 on: March 04, 2018, 12:22:45 PM »
I've been trying to break in a set of Indys for 2 weeks, tightening/loosening etc. Last night I put in a new set of Thunder 147s .. no tightening and skating was perfection. Part of me feels like I keep trying Indys in hopes of recapturing that stage 7 magic and it just isn't working. Also, I still love Ventures too. I find the Venture lo 5.25 and Thunder 147 hi to be very similar. Not in the ride itself but the technical aspects (I mean , tricks feel very similar)) to me on both). Thunders definitely have a looser turn that is fun but Ventures have a nice stability on landings. So I guess for now I'm going back n forth between Venture and Thunder

Must be stage 11, I love them but can never get them just right. Theyíre either too loose and no stability or too tight and barely any carve

The stage 10 with bones mediums is doing very nicely for me, but hearing your 147 joy I might switch it back down cause Iíve been on my 148 for the last month or 2 then recently a week ago wanted to see how it was when haslam and Levi brown were riding stg10 149 when they were busting out videos riding these babyís doing the craziest tricks

147 hi thunders are in the top 3 overall best trucks Forsure though, besides being in my top 3

Yeah they're stage 11. And like you said: either too lose/ no stability or too tight and no carve. I have a set of each of the big 3 on standby for the madness but I'm getting bummed on stage 11. Just can't find the sweet spot. I am my most comfortable on Ventures but there is something awesome about the 147s that is hard to describe. The quick reaction turns are nice. Then what I like about ventures is the oppsite: those stable landings. But the pop and flip ability feels virtually the same to me. My stage 11 kickflips felt mega sluggish. I dunno what size decks you use but I'm 8 or 8.125 so I haven't done wider since like 91 or 92
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« Reply #3259 on: March 04, 2018, 12:29:15 PM »
Just got the raw polished. They do turn but not in a way Indy turns since they stretch the wheelbase abit further out. Ventures turns straight while indy is curvy. I sanded the top bushing in half and I like that the board wobbles around while feeling very stable.
Did they come with silver or gold hardware? I ordered a set thinking they would have the silver hardware and nope, still gold, even though the pic said otherwise.  I hated it when they switched to gold and I was stoked when I saw the new raws with all silver.  Now if only they'd go back to green or blue bushings...

You can get deluxe supercush bushings in green still
Yeah I tried them a while back for nostalgia sake, they're really hard, forgot the duro but it was rough. They're green but they're not featherlite green.

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« Reply #3260 on: March 04, 2018, 01:11:12 PM »
the stock white thunder bushings are 90's right? not having an easy time trying to find replacements, which I dont quite need yet but want to have on deck for when i do, any suggestions?

edit: found some and they are 90
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« Reply #3261 on: March 04, 2018, 01:22:09 PM »
Just got the raw polished. They do turn but not in a way Indy turns since they stretch the wheelbase abit further out. Ventures turns straight while indy is curvy. I sanded the top bushing in half and I like that the board wobbles around while feeling very stable.
Did they come with silver or gold hardware? I ordered a set thinking they would have the silver hardware and nope, still gold, even though the pic said otherwise.  I hated it when they switched to gold and I was stoked when I saw the new raws with all silver.  Now if only they'd go back to green or blue bushings...

You can get deluxe supercush bushings in green still
Yeah I tried them a while back for nostalgia sake, they're really hard, forgot the duro but it was rough. They're green but they're not featherlite green.

True. I have a pair of featherlites that have the green. Probably will use again. Need a decent football shape deck for them
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« Reply #3262 on: March 04, 2018, 01:25:19 PM »
I've been trying to break in a set of Indys for 2 weeks, tightening/loosening etc. Last night I put in a new set of Thunder 147s .. no tightening and skating was perfection. Part of me feels like I keep trying Indys in hopes of recapturing that stage 7 magic and it just isn't working. Also, I still love Ventures too. I find the Venture lo 5.25 and Thunder 147 hi to be very similar. Not in the ride itself but the technical aspects (I mean , tricks feel very similar)) to me on both). Thunders definitely have a looser turn that is fun but Ventures have a nice stability on landings. So I guess for now I'm going back n forth between Venture and Thunder


Must be stage 11, I love them but can never get them just right. Theyíre either too loose and no stability or too tight and barely any carve

The stage 10 with bones mediums is doing very nicely for me, but hearing your 147 joy I might switch it back down cause Iíve been on my 148 for the last month or 2 then recently a week ago wanted to see how it was when haslam and Levi brown were riding stg10 149 when they were busting out videos riding these babyís doing the craziest tricks

147 hi thunders are in the top 3 overall best trucks Forsure though, besides being in my top 3

Yeah they're stage 11. And like you said: either too lose/ no stability or too tight and no carve. I have a set of each of the big 3 on standby for the madness but I'm getting bummed on stage 11. Just can't find the sweet spot. I am my most comfortable on Ventures but there is something awesome about the 147s that is hard to describe. The quick reaction turns are nice. Then what I like about ventures is the oppsite: those stable landings. But the pop and flip ability feels virtually the same to me. My stage 11 kickflips felt mega sluggish. I dunno what size decks you use but I'm 8 or 8.125 so I haven't done wider since like 91 or 92


I got a pair of the blue hollow stage 11 Indys with the white bushings and they randomly broke in and got really squeaky a few months down the line. Maybe they might just need some more breaking in?

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« Reply #3263 on: March 04, 2018, 01:34:45 PM »
The madness came back and I had to kill my curiosity with my stage 10 149ís cause stop lying to yourselves the stage 11 no matter what size stage 11 feel tipsy with that 55mm height plus your 53mm-55mm wheels cause 52mm and under are for wussies that only skate flat

The stage 10 149 standards feel so goood!

Stage 12 should definitely take a dial back and be that 53.5mm height on standard casts, my kickflips were actually being caught better and maybe a little higher than compared to my favorite thunder 148 lights,

The stage 10 have this solid control feel to them, they just lack that deep crazy turn on stage 11 but I really donít see it as a big deal, also Iím sure the bones bushing craze came from them mainly being used in stage 10ís cause they felt crazy good and stable compared to bones mediums in stage 11 139 and 149 that I have tried

Iím gonna be so sad the day these stage 10ís are done

Also I got the madness from watching some old Levi brown footage and about the stage 10 149ís
A 100%. Loved my stage 10 with bones mediums. best trucks ive ever had.
Ever since switching to 11s all ive been experiencing is worn pivot cups, shredded Bones bushings and that tipsy turning youve mentioned. On the set im skating right now ive lubricated the pivot cups before skating it, used indy replacement bushings and thought i would be ok but after 3 months of skating them the axle started slipping. im on my 4th of 5th set of shitty indys.
I dont like thunders, broke a few ventures and nowhere to buy Ace\Theeve\Whatever anywhere close so im being held hostage with these shitty stage 11s.

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« Reply #3264 on: March 04, 2018, 04:09:07 PM »
Bring back the stage 10!!! I have a old set of those and deff feels different than my stage 11s
I re learned pressure flips with how loose my trucks are I can do em with ventures hehe

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« Reply #3265 on: March 04, 2018, 04:44:23 PM »
Stage 10s had the stock conical bushings on the bottom right? Was that older conical geometry why Bones worked so well? Am I confusing these with stage 9s? I wish I had an old set around.

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« Reply #3266 on: March 04, 2018, 05:12:55 PM »
Stage 9 was the conical, 10 ,11 uses the barrel. I always swap mine out for aftermarket conicals.

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« Reply #3267 on: March 04, 2018, 05:28:57 PM »
I just don't understand how people can tailslide with thunders. Already annoyed with my 1 month old 147s because I pretty much lost all my nose/tails slides. The baseplates never make contact with the ledge, and if the ledge isn't waxed to hell my wheels catch and I just stop. I'm thinking about finally getting some ace 33s with my tax return money.

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« Reply #3268 on: March 04, 2018, 08:07:33 PM »
Go faster?

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« Reply #3269 on: March 04, 2018, 08:35:23 PM »
I have been thinking about trying Thunders, but all this talk about noseslide issues has changed my mind. Right now I am on 139 stage 9 for my 8Ē and 149 stage 11 on my 8.5Ē. I am hearing a lot of talk about Bones medium bushings, but I am wondering what makes them better than after market Indyís? In the summer Indy bushings seem fine, but they squeak when the temp gets under, say, 50 F. Is that the issue? Would Bones Medium bushings take my truck game to the next level? BTWóI think I like the turn on the Stage 9 better but the different axel sizes does not allow for a true apples to apples.