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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3510 on: April 26, 2018, 10:34:27 AM »
Noticed in a picture of Gilbert Crockett for his new shoe that he is rocking the six hole baseplate on his trucks. Is this that nose slide baseplate issue again? I like my thunders but the madness is creeping back. Wish thunder would just release a baseplate that wasnít stumpy.
I think it's because he skates vintage stage of indys

Also 159 and wider Indys have the six hole pattern baseplate

Not all 159s.  I have some forged 159 stage 11s that have the 4 hole.

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« Reply #3511 on: April 26, 2018, 10:55:53 AM »
Noticed in a picture of Gilbert Crockett for his new shoe that he is rocking the six hole baseplate on his trucks. Is this that nose slide baseplate issue again? I like my thunders but the madness is creeping back. Wish thunder would just release a baseplate that wasnít stumpy.
I think it's because he skates vintage stage of indys

Also 159 and wider Indys have the six hole pattern baseplate

Not all 159s.  I have some forged 159 stage 11s that have the 4 hole.

Could be just the cast ones then. Mine are standard cast and they have the six hole pattern.

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« Reply #3512 on: April 26, 2018, 05:20:33 PM »
How wide are Venture 5.8 hi's ? Would they fit OK on a 8.25-8.38 board ?

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« Reply #3513 on: April 26, 2018, 05:27:40 PM »
How wide are Venture 5.8 hi's ? Would they fit OK on a 8.25-8.38 board ?

5.8s are 8.5s

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« Reply #3514 on: April 26, 2018, 05:34:45 PM »
Any of you truck lunatics ever run Indy hangers on Ace baseplates or vice versa? Curious to know how the combo turned out.

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« Reply #3515 on: April 26, 2018, 05:44:50 PM »
Any of you truck lunatics ever run Indy hangers on Ace baseplates or vice versa? Curious to know how the combo turned out.

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« Reply #3516 on: April 26, 2018, 05:56:36 PM »
Any of you truck lunatics ever run Indy hangers on Ace baseplates or vice versa? Curious to know how the combo turned out.

Once, the yoke sticks out like a MF'er

Which combo?

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« Reply #3517 on: April 26, 2018, 06:38:28 PM »
I just bought a set of 8.5 Krux from Daddies.  They are on sale for $16.95.   I mounted them and did three ollies in the garage and the back truck had the boardside bushing blow off the edge of the washer.  WTF.  I have never had this happen with another truck and I heard that Krux bushings were top notch.

Put them back in and hope it doesn't happen again?  Run some Bones?  I also have some new 95s from https://funboxskate.com/product/bushings/

I'm 180 lbs.   Just too much for these dainty bushings?

EDIT:   I reset them and they blew out again within a minute.   Bones Hards it is.   I also found some fresh Mini Logo mediums if the bones end up to be too stiff.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3518 on: April 27, 2018, 04:24:58 PM »
Any of you truck lunatics ever run Indy hangers on Ace baseplates or vice versa? Curious to know how the combo turned out.

Once, the yoke sticks out like a MF'er

Which combo?

Indy plates/ace hanger (it's as bad as it sounds but it does stick further out than stock)

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« Reply #3519 on: April 27, 2018, 04:49:25 PM »
Any of you truck lunatics ever run Indy hangers on Ace baseplates or vice versa? Curious to know how the combo turned out.

Once, the yoke sticks out like a MF'er

Which combo?

Indy plates/ace hanger (it's as bad as it sounds but it does stick further out than stock)

Gotcha. Wonder how the opposite performs.

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« Reply #3520 on: April 27, 2018, 05:39:36 PM »
So as far as modern trucks go, are Krux and Thunder the only two that fit Krux kingpins without the need for epoxy to hold the nut in place?

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« Reply #3521 on: April 27, 2018, 05:44:51 PM »
Any of you truck lunatics ever run Indy hangers on Ace baseplates or vice versa? Curious to know how the combo turned out.

Once, the yoke sticks out like a MF'er

Which combo?

Indy plates/ace hanger (it's as bad as it sounds but it does stick further out than stock)

Gotcha. Wonder how the opposite performs.



I've been fiddling with the trucks I have laying around and it seems like the baseplate and the angle of the kingpin (the lesser it is from 90 degrees) have more effect on turning characteristics than the hanger.

Try the other way around!

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« Reply #3522 on: April 27, 2018, 06:42:47 PM »
So as far as modern trucks go, are Krux and Thunder the only two that fit Krux kingpins without the need for epoxy to hold the nut in place?

Well, you can tighten/loosen them easily once the nut is on but I'd still epoxy them so if you were to ever loosen them so much the nut drops off.

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« Reply #3523 on: April 28, 2018, 09:27:51 AM »
What feels lower to the ground, krux downlows or venture lows? Or are they basically the same?

Probably go with krux as I imagine they have more carve.

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« Reply #3524 on: April 28, 2018, 09:32:03 AM »
What feels lower to the ground, krux downlows or venture lows? Or are they basically the same?

Probably go with krux as I imagine they have more carve.

Ventures are lower at 48mm maybe 47 and krux downlows are actually 52mm tall
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« Reply #3525 on: April 28, 2018, 10:40:27 AM »
What feels lower to the ground, krux downlows or venture lows? Or are they basically the same?

Probably go with krux as I imagine they have more carve.

Never skated Ventures, but Krux have literally the least amount of carve I've skated. They turn fine, especially at higher speeds, but do not carve like other brands. That being said I like them a lot and rock them on my cruisers since they are stable as hell. Mini-Logo are super low and are much more turny.

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« Reply #3526 on: April 28, 2018, 11:29:17 AM »
Hmm aright, ill give mini logo a shot, I dig their wheels.

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« Reply #3527 on: April 28, 2018, 12:23:34 PM »
Hmm aright, ill give mini logo a shot, I dig their wheels.

From what I've read they're the lowest truck out there that turns not tilts ;)

I've a set on my kid's board, they turn just fine (I've not ridden them enough to vouch for them being awesome tho).
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3528 on: April 29, 2018, 10:20:00 AM »
Noticed in a picture of Gilbert Crockett for his new shoe that he is rocking the six hole baseplate on his trucks. Is this that nose slide baseplate issue again? I like my thunders but the madness is creeping back. Wish thunder would just release a baseplate that wasnít stumpy.

I think that's just a cool guy style thing, pretty sure they stick out just as far as the four hole baseplates.

Yea he skates old indys, not sure what stage but I would assume 9 or earlier based on photos.
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« Reply #3529 on: April 29, 2018, 11:43:03 AM »
Mini logo arenít so bad until the pivot cup blows out.
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« Reply #3530 on: April 29, 2018, 01:23:23 PM »
This could be wrong but I think Powell spent years engineering the mother of all trucks...when they realized the couldn't make it the way they wanted they took the design, put cheaper parts on it and made it the mini logo truck.....

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« Reply #3531 on: April 29, 2018, 01:50:55 PM »
This could be wrong but I think Powell spent years engineering the mother of all trucks...when they realized the couldn't make it the way they wanted they took the design, put cheaper parts on it and made it the mini logo truck.....

I believe it, cause it couldíve been a premium truck next to their premium bones wheels and bearings and bushings, it could of been the original theeve but the real original Powell trucks stocked with premium bones hardcore bushings

If they could redesign it though to look something sorta like an indy/ace/theeve maybe even venture I would totally rock them 100% but idk the aesthetics as kooky as that sounds throws me off with the chevron logo on a blank generic shaped hangar and the funny Walmart truck looking baseplate even though it is light cause itís hollowed out so much but I feel there could of been such a more eye pleasing design they could of done that would take the trucks to the level of ermico

maybe if thereís a mini logo stage 2 in the works with such a design Iím giving them all my money and I mean, Swiss L2 bearings or Swiss 6, mini logo/bones  wheels, the new trucks and even The aftermarket mini logo bushings
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« Reply #3532 on: April 30, 2018, 08:29:54 AM »
 I believe my madness has passed R.I.P. I spent the last 3 days switching trucks around and skating the same spot. Staying with Indy (whom I never would have tried others had stage 9 not been so shitty to me). Thunders and Ventures are both great trucks but the turn, weight, grind just feels right with independent for me. I'm glad too cuz they've been my #1 choice since 86 (minus a year in 92 when I rode venture featherlights and had BPSW, a year or so in 2003 when stage 9 came out, and this past wave of madness). Still wish the axle had that thicker style pre stage 9 but it's all good. Anyway, good luck guys.
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« Reply #3533 on: April 30, 2018, 09:48:23 AM »
This could be wrong but I think Powell spent years engineering the mother of all trucks...when they realized the couldn't make it the way they wanted they took the design, put cheaper parts on it and made it the mini logo truck.....

I believe it, cause it couldíve been a premium truck next to their premium bones wheels and bearings and bushings, it could of been the original theeve but the real original Powell trucks stocked with premium bones hardcore bushings

If they could redesign it though to look something sorta like an indy/ace/theeve maybe even venture I would totally rock them 100% but idk the aesthetics as kooky as that sounds throws me off with the chevron logo on a blank generic shaped hangar and the funny Walmart truck looking baseplate even though it is light cause itís hollowed out so much but I feel there could of been such a more eye pleasing design they could of done that would take the trucks to the level of ermico

maybe if thereís a mini logo stage 2 in the works with such a design Iím giving them all my money and I mean, Swiss L2 bearings or Swiss 6, mini logo/bones  wheels, the new trucks and even The aftermarket mini logo bushings

The aftermarket minilogo bushings are really really nice (I was skating the soft ones in my ACEs; the top bushing is really low profile, bottom is the same height as stock aces.

I'd skate them if they weren't super low (49mm?) I can't rock tiny wheels to avoid wheelbite.

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« Reply #3534 on: April 30, 2018, 09:52:29 AM »
I went back to my thunder 147 cause they respond fast and are lightest and Iím riding 8.2 and below and they work great

Kinda testing out ace 44 on the side since they work great too

Down to thunder vs ace

Might throw indy in there but kinda doubt it since compared to my top 2 choices the Indy are great at turning but response and weight throw me off
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3535 on: April 30, 2018, 10:17:35 AM »
This could be wrong but I think Powell spent years engineering the mother of all trucks...when they realized the couldn't make it the way they wanted they took the design, put cheaper parts on it and made it the mini logo truck.....

I believe it, cause it couldíve been a premium truck next to their premium bones wheels and bearings and bushings, it could of been the original theeve but the real original Powell trucks stocked with premium bones hardcore bushings

If they could redesign it though to look something sorta like an indy/ace/theeve maybe even venture I would totally rock them 100% but idk the aesthetics as kooky as that sounds throws me off with the chevron logo on a blank generic shaped hangar and the funny Walmart truck looking baseplate even though it is light cause itís hollowed out so much but I feel there could of been such a more eye pleasing design they could of done that would take the trucks to the level of ermico

maybe if thereís a mini logo stage 2 in the works with such a design Iím giving them all my money and I mean, Swiss L2 bearings or Swiss 6, mini logo/bones  wheels, the new trucks and even The aftermarket mini logo bushings

The aftermarket minilogo bushings are really really nice (I was skating the soft ones in my ACEs; the top bushing is really low profile, bottom is the same height as stock aces.

I'd skate them if they weren't super low (49mm?) I can't rock tiny wheels to avoid wheelbite.

I run an 8" ML setup with 52s and usually have a 1/10 riser, although I occasionally have them setup without.

 I have a set of 8.38s with 55s and use a 1/10 soft and a 1/8 hard.  That brings them up to around 53 high and I don't get too much wheelbite. 

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« Reply #3536 on: April 30, 2018, 10:49:19 AM »
I went back to my thunder 147 cause they respond fast and are lightest and Iím riding 8.2 and below and they work great

Kinda testing out ace 44 on the side since they work great too

Down to thunder vs ace

Might throw indy in there but kinda doubt it since compared to my top 2 choices the Indy are great at turning but response and weight throw me off

Yep...if you can't decide ACE or Thunder....Indy is the right answer.....or I'd run two set ups...

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« Reply #3537 on: April 30, 2018, 11:36:58 AM »
I went back to my thunder 147 cause they respond fast and are lightest and Iím riding 8.2 and below and they work great

Kinda testing out ace 44 on the side since they work great too

Down to thunder vs ace

Might throw indy in there but kinda doubt it since compared to my top 2 choices the Indy are great at turning but response and weight throw me off

Yep...if you can't decide ACE or Thunder....THEEVE is the right answer.....or I'd run two set ups...


Lighter than indy (if you go for tiKings) and turn much sharper, are stable on center but can still carve. Youc an also leave them stock, #probably the only truck you don't have to fuck with.

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« Reply #3538 on: April 30, 2018, 11:51:23 AM »
I went back to my thunder 147 cause they respond fast and are lightest and Iím riding 8.2 and below and they work great

Kinda testing out ace 44 on the side since they work great too

Down to thunder vs ace

Might throw indy in there but kinda doubt it since compared to my top 2 choices the Indy are great at turning but response and weight throw me off

Yep...if you can't decide ACE or Thunder....THEEVE is the right answer.....or I'd run two set ups...


Lighter than indy (if you go for tiKings) and turn much sharper, are stable on center but can still carve. Youc an also leave them stock, #probably the only truck you don't have to fuck with.

Except they look hideous. I noticed they bought back the Tih though, but that one has issues grinding on metal apparently.

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« Reply #3539 on: April 30, 2018, 11:57:29 AM »
The lack of grinding has me looking at thunders.....

If you can't decide Krux or Tensor.....I'd say Theeve....