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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3570 on: May 03, 2018, 06:52:27 AM »
I'm hoping someone could help me with krux trucks please. The standard bushings are way too soft for me, I'm looking to put in something else but I'm having a hard time finding something where the boardside bushing is the same height as the standard krux one. Bones hardcores are way too short. Indys are a tad short. Anyone have any experience with swapping out krux bushings? Cheers guys and gals!

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« Reply #3571 on: May 03, 2018, 07:26:13 AM »
I'm hoping someone could help me with krux trucks please. The standard bushings are way too soft for me, I'm looking to put in something else but I'm having a hard time finding something where the boardside bushing is the same height as the standard krux one. Bones hardcores are way too short. Indys are a tad short. Anyone have any experience with swapping out krux bushings? Cheers guys and gals!

Thunder bushings will work, as will Mini Logo.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3572 on: May 03, 2018, 09:46:11 AM »
I'm hoping someone could help me with krux trucks please. The standard bushings are way too soft for me, I'm looking to put in something else but I'm having a hard time finding something where the boardside bushing is the same height as the standard krux one. Bones hardcores are way too short. Indys are a tad short. Anyone have any experience with swapping out krux bushings? Cheers guys and gals!

try the bones bushings but use the stock washers

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« Reply #3573 on: May 03, 2018, 10:50:22 AM »
Because there's nothing left to consider.....that's why.....now go away....
Then maybe it's time to give up? If trucks are causing you that much grief, I don't know, maybe it's time to get in to online poker or road biking.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3574 on: May 03, 2018, 11:04:23 AM »
don't act agressively towards other patients, mudafoka

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3575 on: May 03, 2018, 11:55:14 AM »
I'm hoping someone could help me with krux trucks please. The standard bushings are way too soft for me, I'm looking to put in something else but I'm having a hard time finding something where the boardside bushing is the same height as the standard krux one. Bones hardcores are way too short. Indys are a tad short. Anyone have any experience with swapping out krux bushings? Cheers guys and gals!

I've used some old Ace Top Bushings before the re-worked the durometer. that ended up fixing the issue on a set of Krux that i've had. had to let them go cause they just didn't grind well for me. i liked the fact that they were broken in on the get-go.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3576 on: May 03, 2018, 02:23:52 PM »
Because there's nothing left to consider.....that's why.....now go away....
Then maybe it's time to give up? If trucks are causing you that much grief, I don't know, maybe it's time to get in to online poker or road biking.

This may be the only thread on slap that has consistently not broken out in arguments lets try and keep it that way, friends. Were all sick in the head with truck madness and are here to support each other. Except rob, hes at the point of no return but hes still cool.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3577 on: May 03, 2018, 02:35:46 PM »
I'm hoping someone could help me with krux trucks please. The standard bushings are way too soft for me, I'm looking to put in something else but I'm having a hard time finding something where the boardside bushing is the same height as the standard krux one. Bones hardcores are way too short. Indys are a tad short. Anyone have any experience with swapping out krux bushings? Cheers guys and gals!

Thunder bushings will work, as will Mini Logo.


Have you used mini logo bushings in them personally? I only ask because in photos they look like the barrel bushing will be shorter. I need to order online because I can't get anything local and don't want to order bushings and then not be able to use them.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3578 on: May 03, 2018, 03:55:25 PM »
I'm hoping someone could help me with krux trucks please. The standard bushings are way too soft for me, I'm looking to put in something else but I'm having a hard time finding something where the boardside bushing is the same height as the standard krux one. Bones hardcores are way too short. Indys are a tad short. Anyone have any experience with swapping out krux bushings? Cheers guys and gals!

Thunder bushings will work, as will Mini Logo.


Have you used mini logo bushings in them personally? I only ask because in photos they look like the barrel bushing will be shorter. I need to order online because I can't get anything local and don't want to order bushings and then not be able to use them.

Venom "downhill bushings", maybe?

https://www.tactics.com/venom/hpf-downhill-longboard-bushing-set-1-truck

They look abit high, but this guy made them work in a pair of tensor lows (look under the yellow highlighted section): http://skateboardingismylifetimesport.blogspot.com/2012/06/149-truck-comparison-test-final-results_04.html

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3579 on: May 03, 2018, 05:34:30 PM »
Because there's nothing left to consider.....that's why.....now go away....
Then maybe it's time to give up? If trucks are causing you that much grief, I don't know, maybe it's time to get in to online poker or road biking.

This may be the only thread on slap that has consistently not broken out in arguments lets try and keep it that way, friends. Were all sick in the head with truck madness and are here to support each other. Except rob, hes at the point of no return but hes still cool.

If you don't see any validity.....or humour in arguing about minilogo trucks.....then God help you. 

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3580 on: May 03, 2018, 07:16:55 PM »
I'm hoping someone could help me with krux trucks please. The standard bushings are way too soft for me, I'm looking to put in something else but I'm having a hard time finding something where the boardside bushing is the same height as the standard krux one. Bones hardcores are way too short. Indys are a tad short. Anyone have any experience with swapping out krux bushings? Cheers guys and gals!

Thunder bushings will work, as will Mini Logo.


Have you used mini logo bushings in them personally? I only ask because in photos they look like the barrel bushing will be shorter. I need to order online because I can't get anything local and don't want to order bushings and then not be able to use them.

Yes, I have! I got you brosef:

 ML (grn) Thunder (yellow) Krux (white)





Keep in mind that they've all been ridden to various amounts of time, in different trucks and different degrees of loose.

The pictures looked skewed a bit making the thunder look taller (if it is, it's only by .5mm so negligible) and the rounded edges of the ML bushing make it appear a smidge shorter.

Also, the Indy aftermarket conical bushings are damn close (I don't think you'd notice the difference in height; no idea why they are taller than Indy's own aftermarket barrels).


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3581 on: May 03, 2018, 07:19:43 PM »
Because there's nothing left to consider.....that's why.....now go away....
Then maybe it's time to give up? If trucks are causing you that much grief, I don't know, maybe it's time to get in to online poker or road biking.

This may be the only thread on slap that has consistently not broken out in arguments lets try and keep it that way, friends. Were all sick in the head with truck madness and are here to support each other. Except rob, hes at the point of no return but hes still cool.

If you don't see any validity.....or humour in arguing about minilogo trucks.....then God help you.

I'd try the new Tensors before I go in for ML trucks.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3582 on: May 03, 2018, 07:45:51 PM »
I'm hoping someone could help me with krux trucks please. The standard bushings are way too soft for me, I'm looking to put in something else but I'm having a hard time finding something where the boardside bushing is the same height as the standard krux one. Bones hardcores are way too short. Indys are a tad short. Anyone have any experience with swapping out krux bushings? Cheers guys and gals!

Thunder bushings will work, as will Mini Logo.


Have you used mini logo bushings in them personally? I only ask because in photos they look like the barrel bushing will be shorter. I need to order online because I can't get anything local and don't want to order bushings and then not be able to use them.

Yes, I have! I got you brosef:

 ML (grn) Thunder (yellow) Krux (white)





Keep in mind that they've all been ridden to various amounts of time, in different trucks and different degrees of loose.

The pictures looked skewed a bit making the thunder look taller (if it is, it's only by .5mm so negligible) and the rounded edges of the ML bushing make it appear a smidge shorter.

Also, the Indy aftermarket conical bushings are damn close (I don't think you'd notice the difference in height; no idea why they are taller than Indy's own aftermarket barrels).


Mate you are a legend! I remember you from skateboard city. Thanks for the help! Mini logo it is.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3583 on: May 05, 2018, 06:04:04 AM »
What trucks are these? Can't tell on my phone
GANG ! GANG ! GANG ! GANG ! GANG ! GANG ! GANG ! GANG !

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3584 on: May 05, 2018, 06:23:51 AM »
pixellized shitty ones

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3585 on: May 05, 2018, 12:50:54 PM »
I am almost positive they are Krepers
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3586 on: May 05, 2018, 11:28:49 PM »
Alright guys so I bent the axles on my new krux trucks, I've also bent thunders, tensor and silver trucks in the past. Don't like how Indys feel so I'm looking at either venture, royal or theeve. I'm 98kg and stomp my landings pretty hard. Thunders were probably my favourite feeling truck. Help me choose new trucks please!

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3587 on: May 05, 2018, 11:32:37 PM »
Alright guys so I bent the axles on my new krux trucks, I've also bent thunders, tensor and silver trucks in the past. Don't like how Indys feel so I'm looking at either venture, royal or theeve. I'm 98kg and stomp my landings pretty hard. Thunders were probably my favourite feeling truck. Help me choose new trucks please!
Try some hollow thunders, the hollow axle is stronger.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3588 on: May 05, 2018, 11:56:03 PM »
Alright guys so I bent the axles on my new krux trucks, I've also bent thunders, tensor and silver trucks in the past. Don't like how Indys feel so I'm looking at either venture, royal or theeve. I'm 98kg and stomp my landings pretty hard. Thunders were probably my favourite feeling truck. Help me choose new trucks please!
Try some hollow thunders, the hollow axle is stronger.

This isn't entirely true. Hollow axles have a better strength to weight ratio compared to solid ones, but given the same circumference, solid ones are still stronger, but just marginally. In practice, the difference is typically negligible. If bending axles is a big problem, perhaps try the thunder titaniums, which have an axle that is both solid and titanium(as long as they're not lying about the alloy being actually containing titanium).

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3589 on: May 06, 2018, 12:00:25 AM »
Alright guys so I bent the axles on my new krux trucks, I've also bent thunders, tensor and silver trucks in the past. Don't like how Indys feel so I'm looking at either venture, royal or theeve. I'm 98kg and stomp my landings pretty hard. Thunders were probably my favourite feeling truck. Help me choose new trucks please!
Try some hollow thunders, the hollow axle is stronger.

This isn't entirely true. Hollow axles have a better strength to weight ratio compared to solid ones, but given the same circumference, solid ones are still stronger, but just marginally. In practice, the difference is typically negligible. If bending axles is a big problem, perhaps try the thunder titaniums, which have an axle that is both solid and titanium(as long as they're not lying about the alloy being actually containing titanium).
Shut up nerd.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3590 on: May 06, 2018, 12:14:21 AM »
Alright guys so I bent the axles on my new krux trucks, I've also bent thunders, tensor and silver trucks in the past. Don't like how Indys feel so I'm looking at either venture, royal or theeve. I'm 98kg and stomp my landings pretty hard. Thunders were probably my favourite feeling truck. Help me choose new trucks please!
Try some hollow thunders, the hollow axle is stronger.

This isn't entirely true. Hollow axles have a better strength to weight ratio compared to solid ones, but given the same circumference, solid ones are still stronger, but just marginally. In practice, the difference is typically negligible. If bending axles is a big problem, perhaps try the thunder titaniums, which have an axle that is both solid and titanium(as long as they're not lying about the alloy being actually containing titanium).
Shut up nerd.

Let me refer you to what I linked earlier in this thread to really drive the point home:
https://www.mtbiker.sk/forum/resources/file/207637

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3591 on: May 06, 2018, 12:42:59 AM »
Alright guys so I bent the axles on my new krux trucks, I've also bent thunders, tensor and silver trucks in the past. Don't like how Indys feel so I'm looking at either venture, royal or theeve. I'm 98kg and stomp my landings pretty hard. Thunders were probably my favourite feeling truck. Help me choose new trucks please!

You mean 216 lb right? If those are your 3 choices theeve is the best of the choices you have, otherwise I say give thunder a chance again cause I mean big boy foy rides them chucking himself on rails and over stuff
yes

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« Reply #3592 on: May 06, 2018, 05:54:17 AM »
Alright guys so I bent the axles on my new krux trucks, I've also bent thunders, tensor and silver trucks in the past. Don't like how Indys feel so I'm looking at either venture, royal or theeve. I'm 98kg and stomp my landings pretty hard. Thunders were probably my favourite feeling truck. Help me choose new trucks please!
Try some hollow thunders, the hollow axle is stronger.

This isn't entirely true. Hollow axles have a better strength to weight ratio compared to solid ones, but given the same circumference, solid ones are still stronger, but just marginally. In practice, the difference is typically negligible. If bending axles is a big problem, perhaps try the thunder titaniums, which have an axle that is both solid and titanium(as long as they're not lying about the alloy being actually containing titanium).

Two things:

1. A hollow axle is less prone to bending than a solid axle
2. Steel is less prone to bending than titanium

If bending axles are your problem, get a pair of Ventures with the hollow axle. 
« Last Edit: May 06, 2018, 06:19:02 AM by BMCsteve »

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« Reply #3593 on: May 06, 2018, 09:48:37 AM »
Hollow axle or kingpin of the same material as a solid chromoly one is not stronger.

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« Reply #3594 on: May 06, 2018, 02:18:45 PM »
Amazing...
Dude takes the time to post a link with formulas confirming that for a given diameter (which is the case in our trucks) the bending resistance will be greater for a solid rod than for a hollow tube of the same material (by a ratio of 85%, it demonstrates), yet people will still recommend to skate hollows to avoid bending...

As for material, a quick search indicates that there is no definitive answer here since we are possibly talking about a great number of different alloys.
The strongest alloy steels are stronger than the strongest titanium alloys (each taken in their hardest tempers), but it's obviously not what they sell you to put under your deck.
Also, the most commonly used alloy of Titanium (6al4v) is significantly stronger than the most commonly used steels.

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« Reply #3595 on: May 06, 2018, 04:57:33 PM »
I don't even really want to bring up Mini Logos again because I'm not planning on buying any but I seem to remember reading something about them being abnormally low so that if you wanted big wheels/loose trucks you absolutely needed risers.

Is this accurate?

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« Reply #3596 on: May 06, 2018, 04:59:49 PM »
I don't even really want to bring up Mini Logos again because I'm not planning on buying any but I seem to remember reading something about them being abnormally low so that if you wanted big wheels/loose trucks you absolutely needed risers.

Is this accurate?

yes, they're like 48mm or something

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« Reply #3597 on: May 06, 2018, 05:30:26 PM »
I don't even really want to bring up Mini Logos again because I'm not planning on buying any but I seem to remember reading something about them being abnormally low so that if you wanted big wheels/loose trucks you absolutely needed risers.

Is this accurate?

yes, they're like 48mm or something

I've read 47.5mm and 49mm but nothing official - either way they're looooow.

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« Reply #3598 on: May 06, 2018, 07:36:42 PM »
We can only bring up Theeve so many times......minilogo was inevitable......

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« Reply #3599 on: May 07, 2018, 07:10:36 AM »
Alright guys so I bent the axles on my new krux trucks, I've also bent thunders, tensor and silver trucks in the past. Don't like how Indys feel so I'm looking at either venture, royal or theeve. I'm 98kg and stomp my landings pretty hard. Thunders were probably my favourite feeling truck. Help me choose new trucks please!

You mean 216 lb right? If those are your 3 choices theeve is the best of the choices you have, otherwise I say give thunder a chance again cause I mean big boy foy rides them chucking himself on rails and over stuff

Foy is:

A) Sponsored by Thunder, he gets a box of trucks a month no doubt
B) Skates with other dudes also on Thunder and can get hooked up from any one of his (DW) homies if he bends fucks up a truck

Pros destroy shit way more than we do, they just don't talk about it publically is my guess and in their circles, it's probably more like, "Dude, I bent the FUCK out of these trucks trying that <xxx> in, f/s 5-0 to rail, to <180 tonyhawkgameruinedskateboadinggrind > to <xxx> out on that 654 stair set recently."