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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3870 on: June 03, 2018, 01:29:41 PM »
Thunder stock bushings.. are they the same as their replacement 90a?

(Totally contradicting that I don't change bushings but I preferred the yellow transparent bushings over the blue)
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3871 on: June 03, 2018, 02:38:31 PM »
Does anybody know if the transparent green/yellow thunder bushings are sold separately?  I just like the color and been using this color forever. Or if anybody has some I'll buy them off of them.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3872 on: June 03, 2018, 05:40:16 PM »
If I were to purchase Thunders should I also buy after market bushings/pivot cups? If so what?

I've been riding Indies for years but feel like a change and I loved Thunder years ago.
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« Reply #3873 on: June 03, 2018, 06:12:29 PM »
Whatís up truck enthusiasts, Iím after some advice. Should I try switching from indies to Thunder or Venture?

Iím getting older and finding I have less pop now days, so I want something lighter. Been riding indies for about the last ten years, though I did mess around with others before that.
Suggestions please?

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Hey dude, I would suggest Indy titaniums, if you like how Indys turn, they are way lighter, and a little lower which might help your pop. The lighter weight definitely helps make Ollies float more. I just got aces and they turn very similar but a little bit looser/easier. They are heavier (but not that bad at all) And are about the same height as Indy Titaniums.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3874 on: June 03, 2018, 11:31:48 PM »
Thanks man, I didnít even consider the Indy titaniumís. Sounds like a good option. I didnít realise they were lower than regular indies - Iím guessing itís not by very much?

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« Reply #3875 on: June 04, 2018, 12:11:20 AM »
Thanks man, I didnít even consider the Indy titaniumís. Sounds like a good option. I didnít realise they were lower than regular indies - Iím guessing itís not by very much?
Regular indies 55mm tall, forged ones 53,5mm.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3876 on: June 04, 2018, 05:34:39 AM »
just got a brand new set of thunder ti 149s, axle is slipped on one of the trucks. such a bummer. i live in england but bought the trucks from socal skate shop, shall i email them or the guy from dlx on here? whats his account?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3877 on: June 04, 2018, 07:32:11 AM »
just got a brand new set of thunder ti 149s, axle is slipped on one of the trucks. such a bummer. i live in england but bought the trucks from socal skate shop, shall i email them or the guy from dlx on here? whats his account?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3878 on: June 04, 2018, 11:08:00 AM »
Thanks for the Thunder/bushing advice. I think I'm gonna go for it. Anyone know if Indy bushings work on them as I would really like to have some pre broken in bushings.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3879 on: June 04, 2018, 04:01:20 PM »
I just got some new Indy 169s (with the made in china tag) and I'm thinking of exchanging them for Titaniums, is it worthwhile?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3880 on: June 04, 2018, 04:32:06 PM »
just got a brand new set of thunder ti 149s, axle is slipped on one of the trucks. such a bummer. i live in england but bought the trucks from socal skate shop, shall i email them or the guy from dlx on here? whats his account?

I had a split set of spitfires years back i bought internationally, emailed reed, and while he was super helpful end result was it was just directed to the local distro for a replacement

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3881 on: June 04, 2018, 05:25:37 PM »
Recently setup my Indys with two top bushings and it's really nice. I'm able to keep both washers on and keep the bolt flush to the kingpin meaning I'm not constantly worried about the bolt falling off. The weird thing is they feel looser than riding them wobbly with standard bushings, but they don't wobble. I'm still messing around with the setup but I'm really digging it right now.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3882 on: June 04, 2018, 06:03:38 PM »
Alright, so Iíve had a few sessions on my new ace 44s and the tensor all terrains. I skate very low impact shit, small bowls, curbs, flat ground, manny pads. Hereís my opinions so far.

Aces 44s Rally Green:
As far as me and BMC could tell, all the Rally Greens were the re-design with the new bushings so thatís why I got these. I didnít try to inspect them or anything to try to figure it out either. I left them stock so I could break the bushings in, and at the start of the first session I felt like I would be getting wheelbite on every trick. After about 15 mins they started to bounce back a little already. The turn was nice and smooth, and they felt stable before I popped any tricks so that was cool. My front shoves popped high and I was catching them which showed me the lower height was better for me. Compared to the standard baseplate with titanium hangar experiment I was trying with indys since the beginning of the year. The grind was sticky at first, but I couldnít tell if it was because of the painted trucks, or the dry curb I was skating. About an hour in they pretty close to perfect, rebound was already there, I could land all of my go to tricks and even landed a couple I donít normally land that fast. Second time I skated them was at the Fremont park yesterday. Turn felt sharp and good (I may tighten them a tiny bit but Iím not sure yet) they grinded smooth on the metal edge. My manny tricks were landed in a couple tries (albeit I landed them on the tensors first). In the small bowl they felt good, I can barely scrape backside Smith grinds and Iím happy if my back truck touches frontside, and I was able to do those easy enough. Over all I like them a lot.

Tensor All Terrain Magnesium 8.5 width:
First session was at Fremont skatepark yesterday, they felt really weird straight out the gate. I left them stock again to break in the bushings. They felt like they hesitated to turn when you started to lean (when aces feel like they react immediately). They felt like they turned way more shallow and wide as opposed to a deeper turn like aces. At first the bushings felt a little hard, they loosened up pretty quickly tho and started to have some rebound, but the hesitation/delayed turn was still there. The added height made my front shoves pop slower and made me land towards the front of the board (same as indys with standard height). Ollies felt amazing because of the board being so light. When I ollied on a corner hip it felt super floaty. Manny tricks took a minute, just getting used to the pop probably. In the bowl they felt ok, a lot easier to carve than I thought they would. The only weird thing there was, after doing backside scrapes it felt like the wheels came down and touched, and THEN turned back into the tranny instead of it being one motion. The turn is pretty surfy tho and better than I thought. Today skating to the park for flat ground, i leaned hard to carve and got wheelbite and came to a stop. Almost ate shit, front shoves still popped weird for me because of height, and it felt hard to hit the tail on kickflips although I was able to land a couple pretty quick. Any questions just ask.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3883 on: June 05, 2018, 10:18:55 AM »


Tensor All Terrain Magnesium 8.5 width:
felt really weird straight out the gate.
They felt like they hesitated to turn when you started to lean (when aces feel like they react immediately).
They felt like they turned way more shallow and wide as opposed to a deeper turn like aces.

The only weird thing there was, after doing backside scrapes it felt like the wheels came down and touched, and THEN turned back into the tranny instead of it being one motion. The turn is pretty surfy tho and better than I thought. Today skating to the park for flat ground, i leaned hard to carve and got wheelbite and came to a stop. Almost ate shit, front shoves still popped weird for me because of height, and it felt hard to hit the tail on kickflips although I was able to land a couple pretty quick. Any questions just ask.

Hesitation in trucks is bad. that last bit, I have no idea what you are talking about ;P

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3884 on: June 05, 2018, 11:51:36 PM »
Anyone got any info on the new indy low coming soon?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3885 on: June 06, 2018, 12:08:01 PM »
Anyone got any info on the new indy low coming soon?

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Re: Truck set-ups
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3887 on: June 06, 2018, 02:14:27 PM »
I asked NHS probably a couple months ago about indy lows and they are being re-engineered.  They said expect 2019.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3888 on: June 09, 2018, 04:02:51 AM »
I bought some royal 5.5's recently. First thing I noticed was the kingpin clearance of which there was absolutely none. Stock bushing setup and nut flush there's like 2mm of nut sticking up.
Another problem is the top washer hits the hanger before the wheel touches the board. I'm certain you just cannot run these with a top washer without risking snapping a kingpin.

So I put in some bones hard with bottom washer to retain standard geometry and no washer on top so I could  run the nut lower after grinding down the kingpin. I took off 1mm increments on the kingpin with my bench grinder. I contemplated running the bones replacement washer on top aswell but decided against it so I could get the kingpin and nut lower. They have really good kingpin clearance now.

A bit of work on these things and they are awesome. Really liking how they skate and I'm a big fan of lower trucks in the 8.5 range. Not many around! Will report back once I've skated them more. I've only put about an hour on them at this point but so far so good.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3889 on: June 09, 2018, 08:38:11 PM »
I bought some royal 5.5's recently. First thing I noticed was the kingpin clearance of which there was absolutely none. Stock bushing setup and nut flush there's like 2mm of nut sticking up.
Another problem is the top washer hits the hanger before the wheel touches the board. I'm certain you just cannot run these with a top washer without risking snapping a kingpin.

So I put in some bones hard with bottom washer to retain standard geometry and no washer on top so I could  run the nut lower after grinding down the kingpin. I took off 1mm increments on the kingpin with my bench grinder. I contemplated running the bones replacement washer on top aswell but decided against it so I could get the kingpin and nut lower. They have really good kingpin clearance now.

A bit of work on these things and they are awesome. Really liking how they skate and I'm a big fan of lower trucks in the 8.5 range. Not many around! Will report back once I've skated them more. I've only put about an hour on them at this point but so far so good.

They didnít have the 5.5 with that Allen key kingpin?
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« Reply #3890 on: June 09, 2018, 11:01:00 PM »
I thought the kingpins looked cheap....the krux ones are such a better design....

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« Reply #3891 on: June 09, 2018, 11:48:54 PM »
I bought some royal 5.5's recently. First thing I noticed was the kingpin clearance of which there was absolutely none. Stock bushing setup and nut flush there's like 2mm of nut sticking up.
Another problem is the top washer hits the hanger before the wheel touches the board. I'm certain you just cannot run these with a top washer without risking snapping a kingpin.

So I put in some bones hard with bottom washer to retain standard geometry and no washer on top so I could  run the nut lower after grinding down the kingpin. I took off 1mm increments on the kingpin with my bench grinder. I contemplated running the bones replacement washer on top aswell but decided against it so I could get the kingpin and nut lower. They have really good kingpin clearance now.

A bit of work on these things and they are awesome. Really liking how they skate and I'm a big fan of lower trucks in the 8.5 range. Not many around! Will report back once I've skated them more. I've only put about an hour on them at this point but so far so good.

They didnít have the 5.5 with that Allen key kingpin?

I couldn't find any online here in aus, otherwise I would have bought them.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3892 on: June 10, 2018, 10:01:47 AM »
Just got some thunder team hollows 148 in the mail.. think it will throw me off since I am used to 149s? i usually skate around a 8.25.  im kinda pissed i didnt get the 149s cuz now i cant upsize much.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3893 on: June 10, 2018, 12:34:24 PM »
Just got some thunder team hollows 148 in the mail.. think it will throw me off since I am used to 149s? i usually skate around a 8.25.  im kinda pissed i didnt get the 149s cuz now i cant upsize much.

You're better off on an 8.25 and you can size up quite a bit without it getting super weird. You'll get used to it super quick I bet, don't stress.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3894 on: June 10, 2018, 12:44:19 PM »
right on. thank you.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3895 on: June 10, 2018, 09:25:53 PM »
Thunder stock bushings.. are they the same as their replacement 90a?

(Totally contradicting that I don't change bushings but I preferred the yellow transparent bushings over the blue)

The White/90A replacement bushings as well as the Red Translucent/90A re-build kit are the same as stock. I always go with the red translucent. For some reason they just seem to last longer for me. I'm glad they include them with the Team Lights now.
I'm pretty sure the red ones in the team editions are 99d.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3896 on: June 10, 2018, 10:14:56 PM »
Thunder stock bushings.. are they the same as their replacement 90a?

(Totally contradicting that I don't change bushings but I preferred the yellow transparent bushings over the blue)

The White/90A replacement bushings as well as the Red Translucent/90A re-build kit are the same as stock. I always go with the red translucent. For some reason they just seem to last longer for me. I'm glad they include them with the Team Lights now.
I'm pretty sure the red ones in the team editions are 99d.

That's what they say on the site/catalog but they're definitely as soft as the normal 90d that have been standard forever. At least the set I have anyhow. They look and feel the same as the Thunder 90d rebuild kit.

Would love to hear from LennyDLXSF about it. Not complaining, 99d stock bushings don't sound very appealing.
 

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« Reply #3897 on: June 10, 2018, 10:17:19 PM »
Thunder stock bushings.. are they the same as their replacement 90a?

(Totally contradicting that I don't change bushings but I preferred the yellow transparent bushings over the blue)

The White/90A replacement bushings as well as the Red Translucent/90A re-build kit are the same as stock. I always go with the red translucent. For some reason they just seem to last longer for me. I'm glad they include them with the Team Lights now.
I'm pretty sure the red ones in the team editions are 99d.

That's what they say on the site/catalog but they're definitely as soft as the normal 90d that have been standard forever. At least the set I have anyhow. They look and feel the same as the Thunder 90d rebuild kit.

Would love to hear from LennyDLXSF about it. Not complaining, 99d stock bushings don't sound very appealing.
 
I had a set pretty recently and they started out soft but after a few days were pretty much rocks.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3898 on: June 10, 2018, 10:21:33 PM »
Thunder stock bushings.. are they the same as their replacement 90a?

(Totally contradicting that I don't change bushings but I preferred the yellow transparent bushings over the blue)

The White/90A replacement bushings as well as the Red Translucent/90A re-build kit are the same as stock. I always go with the red translucent. For some reason they just seem to last longer for me. I'm glad they include them with the Team Lights now.
I'm pretty sure the red ones in the team editions are 99d.

That's what they say on the site/catalog but they're definitely as soft as the normal 90d that have been standard forever. At least the set I have anyhow. They look and feel the same as the Thunder 90d rebuild kit.

Would love to hear from LennyDLXSF about it. Not complaining, 99d stock bushings don't sound very appealing.
 
I had a set pretty recently and they started out soft but after a few days were pretty much rocks.

Really? Weird. I think I'm about a month a half in on the team lights and they feel the same as any other set of Thunders, bushing-wise. There was another guy a few pages back who posted about his set having soft 90d's as well, maybe we got some flukes. 
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3899 on: June 11, 2018, 02:48:05 AM »
wondering if any pal around here has tried the inverted kingpin-krux bushing combo on indys before. Really curious on giving it a try, cheers.