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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3900 on: June 11, 2018, 04:39:22 AM »
wondering if any pal around here has tried the inverted kingpin-krux bushing combo on indys before. Really curious on giving it a try, cheers.

I've done the inverted kingpin on Indy's with stock indy bushings which worked fine but the Krux bushings would be too tall


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3901 on: June 11, 2018, 05:22:56 AM »
Indy 144's & 149's one for street and other for vert/pools both Bones hardcore stiff but barely tighten them down as they break in are like butttttttttter as fuck.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3902 on: June 11, 2018, 05:52:49 AM »
Thunder 149's
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I use washers, and the spacers for my Swiss.

The one weird thing that I do is I set both trucks up with equal tightness and then I switch them (front to back) with every new board setup. 
I also do this, my friends think it's weird that I don't designate a front and back truck.
I also tighten my mounting hardware diagonally. Just a quirk I guess, but I always thought it'd center the baseplate better.
Do you ride bmx? I use to do that when tightening bars down, shorty after I quit riding bmx in like the 6 grade I got back into skating and have had that same philosophy of tightening hardware crossways it's a thing others do.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3903 on: June 11, 2018, 08:26:40 AM »
Thunder stock bushings.. are they the same as their replacement 90a?

(Totally contradicting that I don't change bushings but I preferred the yellow transparent bushings over the blue)

The White/90A replacement bushings as well as the Red Translucent/90A re-build kit are the same as stock. I always go with the red translucent. For some reason they just seem to last longer for me. I'm glad they include them with the Team Lights now.
I'm pretty sure the red ones in the team editions are 99d.

That's definitely a typo on the site, I'll email someone at DLX and let them know so hopefully it gets fixed. The Team Lights/Hollows/Titaniums at Escapist all have the soft stock 90A red translucent bushings that are the same as the 90A re-build kit and all the other stock translucent bushings they offer. I've got three sets of the 148 Team Lights and one set of the 149 Team Lights on my personal setups and all of them are 90A. They feel and break-in just like the stock white and translucent yellow, orange and blues used on the Teams and 148's. I actually had to change out the bushings with some from the 90A re-build kit on one truck due to too many air bubbles and a gouge in the urethane and they broke-in and feel exactly the same as the bushings they came with. They start off super soft but break-in pretty quickly and firm up a little and develop pretty good responsiveness. I've tried the red 97A Thunder replacement bushings before and those are like rocks, not even close to what these are like. Maybe they were using the 99D ones in the beginning and discovered that was a bad idea for stock so there's a few sets floating around with rock hard bushings. I've just never seen them or experienced anything other than the norm on the ones I own or have seen at the shop.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3904 on: June 11, 2018, 08:42:53 AM »
wondering if any pal around here has tried the inverted kingpin-krux bushing combo on indys before. Really curious on giving it a try, cheers.

I've done the inverted kingpin on Indy's with stock indy bushings which worked fine but the Krux bushings would be too tall


i steady use indy bushing and that photo got me going. Definitely trying it out. gracias!

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3905 on: June 11, 2018, 08:15:42 PM »
Switched out to thunder 149 lights

Not as much board feel like the mini logo but definitely more pop

Also is really nice riding loose with control cause thunder bushings rebound excellent

Is it me or do the all terrain tensor hangars look the same shape as a thunder 148 and up? They really do look like thunder hangars but with the tensor divots
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3906 on: June 12, 2018, 10:13:03 AM »
Can I switch out my 149 hangar to 139 and keep the same baseplate? Both arenít forged.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3907 on: June 12, 2018, 10:30:11 AM »
Can I switch out my 149 hangar to 139 and keep the same baseplate? Both arenít forged.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3908 on: June 12, 2018, 11:09:55 AM »
Can I switch out my 149 hangar to 139 and keep the same baseplate? Both arenít forged.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3909 on: June 12, 2018, 12:05:15 PM »
Can I switch out my 149 hangar to 139 and keep the same baseplate? Both arenít forged.

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Thanks g.
Some of my friends are using same baseplates till they burn through them, everytime when they get new set they just mount hangers into old baseplates and bushings. Never tried it myself but it should take away the break-in period🤔
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3910 on: June 12, 2018, 03:54:26 PM »
Can I switch out my 149 hangar to 139 and keep the same baseplate? Both arenít forged.

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Thanks g.
Some of my friends are using same baseplates till they burn through them, everytime when they get new set they just mount hangers into old baseplates and bushings. Never tried it myself but it should take away the break-in period🤔
Slides feel the same today and I just switched the hangar and not the baseplate. Definitely helps with the break in period.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3911 on: June 12, 2018, 05:52:20 PM »
Can someone clue me in on what Riptide pivot cups bring to the table? I'm tempted to try some in my Indy's, but don't want to pony up for minimal performance returns.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3912 on: June 12, 2018, 08:11:06 PM »
wondering if any pal around here has tried the inverted kingpin-krux bushing combo on indys before. Really curious on giving it a try, cheers.

I've done the inverted kingpin on Indy's with stock indy bushings which worked fine but the Krux bushings would be too tall


Does this involve epoxying the nut into the baseplate or anything similar?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3913 on: June 13, 2018, 01:17:57 AM »
I run this on thunders, if you are likely to want to tinker use JB weld or epoxy resin.
I had an educated guess at tightness (bolt flush) and used a stubby flathead to hold the nut whilst tightening.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3914 on: June 13, 2018, 04:42:30 AM »
wondering if any pal around here has tried the inverted kingpin-krux bushing combo on indys before. Really curious on giving it a try, cheers.

I've done the inverted kingpin on Indy's with stock indy bushings which worked fine but the Krux bushings would be too tall


Does this involve epoxying the nut into the baseplate or anything similar?

If you frequently loosen or tighten your trucks, you will need to epoxy the nut in place or you'll have to take them off every time you want to tighten it and wedge a screwdriver between the nut and baseplate to hold it in place as you tighten.

I just "set it and forget it" with my trucks so I never bothered

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3915 on: June 13, 2018, 07:59:56 AM »
wondering if any pal around here has tried the inverted kingpin-krux bushing combo on indys before. Really curious on giving it a try, cheers.

I've done the inverted kingpin on Indy's with stock indy bushings which worked fine but the Krux bushings would be too tall


Does this involve epoxying the nut into the baseplate or anything similar?

If you frequently loosen or tighten your trucks, you will need to epoxy the nut in place or you'll have to take them off every time you want to tighten it and wedge a screwdriver between the nut and baseplate to hold it in place as you tighten.

I just "set it and forget it" with my trucks so I never bothered
stock indy bushings ? you'll remind of it shortly  ;)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3916 on: June 13, 2018, 08:12:56 AM »
wondering if any pal around here has tried the inverted kingpin-krux bushing combo on indys before. Really curious on giving it a try, cheers.

I've done the inverted kingpin on Indy's with stock indy bushings which worked fine but the Krux bushings would be too tall


Does this involve epoxying the nut into the baseplate or anything similar?

If you frequently loosen or tighten your trucks, you will need to epoxy the nut in place or you'll have to take them off every time you want to tighten it and wedge a screwdriver between the nut and baseplate to hold it in place as you tighten.

I just "set it and forget it" with my trucks so I never bothered
stock indy bushings ? you'll remind of it shortly  ;)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3917 on: June 13, 2018, 09:03:20 AM »
wondering if any pal around here has tried the inverted kingpin-krux bushing combo on indys before. Really curious on giving it a try, cheers.

I've done the inverted kingpin on Indy's with stock indy bushings which worked fine but the Krux bushings would be too tall



That looks like a lot of clearance, how much do you think it improved over the stock indy kingpin? Are feebles and smiths easier?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3918 on: June 13, 2018, 09:17:24 AM »
wondering if any pal around here has tried the inverted kingpin-krux bushing combo on indys before. Really curious on giving it a try, cheers.

I've done the inverted kingpin on Indy's with stock indy bushings which worked fine but the Krux bushings would be too tall


Does this involve epoxying the nut into the baseplate or anything similar?

If you frequently loosen or tighten your trucks, you will need to epoxy the nut in place or you'll have to take them off every time you want to tighten it and wedge a screwdriver between the nut and baseplate to hold it in place as you tighten.

I just "set it and forget it" with my trucks so I never bothered

is it possible to have loose trucks with these kingpins? i skate my thunders fairly loose so they are a little wiggly and i've been wondering if it would be possible if i swapped the kingpins to krux. they're a little shorter, no?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3919 on: June 13, 2018, 12:13:41 PM »
So left of shot is current 147hi forged Thunder. Have riser as nut sticks out a smidge too far. Right is 149 forged to give you an idea of how tight they would be.
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« Reply #3920 on: June 13, 2018, 01:20:32 PM »
The day I got my new thunders, skated them once and put my Indys back on. Nothing against them even really. Just comparing notes. I think i feel a more "solid landing" on my Indys I think. I'm switching back n forth on shoes too during my experimenting. Emerica Reynolds G6 vs Adidas Busenitz pro. Seems my 42 year old feet get an ache quick in the Busenitz but not the Reynolds. Reynolds with Indys feels pretty good. Thunder with Busenitz feels good until the nagging heel bruise feeling starts.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3921 on: June 13, 2018, 01:45:17 PM »
wondering if any pal around here has tried the inverted kingpin-krux bushing combo on indys before. Really curious on giving it a try, cheers.

I've done the inverted kingpin on Indy's with stock indy bushings which worked fine but the Krux bushings would be too tall


Does this involve epoxying the nut into the baseplate or anything similar?

If you frequently loosen or tighten your trucks, you will need to epoxy the nut in place or you'll have to take them off every time you want to tighten it and wedge a screwdriver between the nut and baseplate to hold it in place as you tighten.

I just "set it and forget it" with my trucks so I never bothered

is it possible to have loose trucks with these kingpins? i skate my thunders fairly loose so they are a little wiggly and i've been wondering if it would be possible if i swapped the kingpins to krux. they're a little shorter, no?

Yes, but only if you use soft bushings and/or a low top; it's tricky to get the pin into nylon portion of the nut. I've never been able to get them wiggly with the krux pin as I'd be too worried it's going to fall off.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3922 on: June 14, 2018, 11:05:35 AM »
indy 149s on front, 144s on back, soft bones bushings.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3923 on: June 14, 2018, 04:12:16 PM »
Tried my ventures a full turn tighter. Tricks are more stable but trucks canít oversompensate when I mob a trick. When I grind Iím used to the trucks flopped when grinding so it felt super weird. Bombinghills I actually felt like I can speed wobble more since my bushings rebound faster. Going over rough streets was harder. Went back to original looseness for surf feel.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3924 on: June 14, 2018, 09:17:17 PM »
I had some unused Stage 8s and was surprised that I could mount Stage X hangers. Current setup is Stage 8 baseplates (in order to use old style mounting holes) with Stage X 149 hangers and stock Indy Stage VI bottom bushings, Stage VIII tops.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3925 on: June 15, 2018, 02:07:33 AM »
Coming from stock independent bushings and searching for more responsive bushings, anybody has a good advice? I hate bones ones. They blow out within 3-4 weeks. I kind of never tried the independent conical 90a's. Also thought about buying some dohdohs.

I would just test the shit, but they are at least 10 to 15 bucks in Europe.


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3926 on: June 15, 2018, 02:49:16 AM »
Coming from stock independent bushings and searching for more responsive bushings, anybody has a good advice? I hate bones ones. They blow out within 3-4 weeks. I kind of never tried the independent conical 90a's. Also thought about buying some dohdohs.

I would just test the shit, but they are at least 10 to 15 bucks in Europe.


Hello. I have liked a lot red Indy aftermarket bushings. My guess is that they come from the same place as Krux ones.
One thing to keep in mind, is that going from stock indys to 90a conical aftermarkets is that the trucks will propably feel wery loose. Especially if you are not a lighter person. Might throw you off in the beginning.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3927 on: June 15, 2018, 10:18:44 AM »
Coming from stock independent bushings and searching for more responsive bushings, anybody has a good advice? I hate bones ones. They blow out within 3-4 weeks. I kind of never tried the independent conical 90a's. Also thought about buying some dohdohs.

I would just test the shit, but they are at least 10 to 15 bucks in Europe.


Hello. I have liked a lot red Indy aftermarket bushings. My guess is that they come from the same place as Krux ones.
One thing to keep in mind, is that going from stock indys to 90a conical aftermarkets is that the trucks will propably feel wery loose. Especially if you are not a lighter person. Might throw you off in the beginning.

Keep in mind that the aftermarket conicals are taller than the aftermarket/stock barrels...stage XI were designed with the short barrel bottoms in mind; as noted above the conicals will indeed feel very loose, especially the 88a ones, to me they feel very unstable on center
(so much so that I just switched to the 88a aftermarket barrels)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3928 on: June 16, 2018, 11:15:54 AM »
So the madness has struck again and Iíve switched from some Venture 5.8 V-Lights w/ bones mediums back to my old Thunder 149 Tiís w/ their aftermarket 97d Heavy bushings, cast plate, and Krux Downlow kingpin. Iím just a sucker for that slim hanger shape & the lighter weight I guess

Flip tricks feel like easy mode after the switch. Not that I had any issues with fliptricks on ventures, they just flip faster with thunders. but even with the krux pin, thunders donít lock into grinds as well as ventures (smiths/feebles on rails specifically) because the hangers so much skinnier and doesnít have as much ďlipĒ  around the sides of the kingpin that the ventures do. Thereís defintely moments where you get pitched from wheelbite w/ thunders whereas ventures are much more forgiving and will at least let you get away with a sloppy rollaway.

Iím gonna try to stick it out with the thunders for a while since theyíre my oldest set of trucks, but Iíll probably be back on ventures after a day of bad wheelbite or whenever they finally remake the 5.8 hollow axels.



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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #3929 on: June 16, 2018, 07:15:18 PM »
Got back on my Thunder 151s today after being on Ace 44s for a long time. I must say the wider trucks felt way better on chunkier ledges and the metal grinds better also. Weird adjustment on the pop though.