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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #360 on: January 12, 2016, 01:46:38 AM »
If Vegans had any Empathy why dont they realize that most people they encounter find them to be insufferable, smug jerks?

Yeah I know right? Those traits are only EVER reserved for worshipers of seitan and never occur in their non-vegan counterparts.
So you continue to support animal cruelty because vegans are jerks yeah? Those fuckers ruin everything I tell you...

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #361 on: January 12, 2016, 07:17:13 AM »
Things must be different in the States, because I've never met a sanctimonious or proselytizing vegan.
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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #362 on: January 12, 2016, 07:27:21 AM »
Things must be different in the States, because I've never met a sanctimonious or proselytizing vegan.
I'm Canadian and neither have I, it's one thing get into it on SLAP from time to time, but I literally never tell anyone I'm vegan unless I'll have to lie to avoid saying it. I'm sure Gay Imp Sausage Metal is on the same page, as it's like mentioning you skate but worse and getting equivalent questions to, "what tricks from Tony Hawk can you do?", something like, "girls must hate you can't eat pussy etc..."

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #363 on: January 12, 2016, 10:50:11 AM »
If you are really concerned about the treatment of other living things, why have a computer? They aren't cruelty free by any standard. Filled with conflict minerals, made with slave labor.
What does that have to do with animal rights though? Maybe I hate all other humans and enjoy their suffering? Nobody has ever said it (veganism) was a quick fix solution for every single problem in the world and no one ever will.  
I eat steak because homeless people exist ???


but NOBODY does EVERY right thing.

I'll agree with you on that but again, so what? Just because nobody is perfect we should continue to torture animals?
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I'm all about *reducing* the amount of animal suffering in the world which you can directly achieve by not supporting these industries. That isn't rocket science. Supply and demand and all that jazz...
Yes, people fight for different causes/ struggles but we are not talking about the plight of native Americans in this thread. The issue being discussed is animal rights!

In the end, none of us are perfect, and its stupid to harp on people for not being perfect in the realm where you perceive yourself to be. I'm not saying don't be vegan, good for you if you are, just don't be surprised when people don't see eye to eye with you.
Find an instance where a vegan ever said they were perfect/ or that veganism was the be all end all solution for every single problem on earth? Now you're just making crap up. Again (third time lucky?), just because nobody is perfect doesn't mean you can't strive to cause less suffering in the world. I'm honestly not surprised at all. My whole point in posting here was: if you are going to get cut about the treatment of a lobster maybe you should connect the dots and get cut about the suffering that you cause to other animals too.

That said, eating meat because it satisfies your cravings and makes for a good meal, or using a computer because it makes your life easier are different sorts of evils than when a person intentionally hurts an animal just for fun. I think its why a lot of people (myself included) think trophy hunters can go suck a cock, but a person who hunts for food are really no worse than any of us who buy meat at the store.
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Being against eating meat is a personal decision, it can't really relate to morality because then tigers and frogs and venus fly traps would all be immoral, which would be a ridiculous position to take. I think vegans and vegetarians took the wrong track a long time ago and never got off of it. Instead of trying to convince people not to eat meat, they should just be convincing people not to support torturing animals for profit. If you go buy Hormel bacon you are giving your money to a company so dedicated to making profit it keeps its animals in pens so small they can't move and pump them full of bullshit their whole short lives before electrocuting them in the face. Anybody who thinks its mean to beat a dog but will give money to factory farmed produced meat is a hypocrite and moron. Find a humane butcher, you can even order online, fish and hunt, raise your own food without being a sadistic dick about it, and no one can say shit. That's the food chain. Raising millions of cows and pigs and spending as little money as possible in doing so, thereby literally torturing animals with at least the intelligence of our beloved pets simply so a few people at the head of the company can become ever more rich, is shitty, thoughtless, and cruel and only exits because the uneducated and shit-talking masses can't stop shoving calories into their big stupid mouths.
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Yes, because humans living in our modern society with an abundance of fresh (and animal-free) food available to them is EXACTLY the same as frogs, tigers and venues fly traps living in the wild ::) We as humans also have to hunt on the daily just to survive since we haven't yet invented things called shops and supermarkets (or even agriculture for that matter). How do we even use these computers things mang? Lions don't use computers.


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Is your entire argument here that being a vegan makes you stupid? You openly admit you don't fucking understand my argument, then argue back as if your ignorance is a valid response.

Eat some fucking fish and try reading it again. Your brain doesn't fucking work.
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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #364 on: January 12, 2016, 12:24:49 PM »
Gay Imp Sausage Metal, I respect your beliefs and how you choose to live your life. But good god man, you are so goddamn insufferable, pompous, and fucking preachy that it makes it hard for me to not want to hate you. In pretty much every thread I've seen you in, you bring up the suffering of animals or your veganism SOMEHOW.
Look, I believe animals should not suffer, but eating meat is essential for humans. We're omnivores, we eat both plants and animals. We've been eating meat for hundred of thousands of years, we evolved this way. The vitamin B12 is vital for the normal functioning of the nervous system and brain as well as formation of blood. It is not found in any plants other than some algae, and it is found in meat, eggs, and fish. Vegans tend to have a deficiency in B12, which leads to a smaller brain, dementia, anemia, and impaired brain function. (which may explain your ramblings)
It is disgusting how conventionally raised animals are treated, which is why I buy grass fed meats (which are healthier than processed meat or meat that comes from conventional farms). At least then I'm aware they had a better life than their cousin that's in a feedlot farm.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #365 on: January 12, 2016, 01:06:22 PM »
You can live a fully healthy life as a vegan or vegetarian.. It does however take quite a lot of work and knowledge to be able to get everything you need, including B12 which you can get from other sources than red meat. Most people apparently fail at this, probably cause they suck at research and/or cooking.

I'm cool with eating meat (even at the state of the industry) and I fucking love bacon. I'd prefer to only eat wild game, but it's not an option for me. I think a lot of people eat way more meat than they need or that their bodies would like. 2" stack of meat on a sub? That's not cool or good for you, just like a lack of B12 aint good.

What bothers me, especially now after a new year, are all these "OMG I'M VEGAN/VEGETARIAN". I don't give a shit. Just like I don't care if you're gay, straight, bi or an attack helicopter. I don't give a shit so stop telling me at every single chance you get. The world doesn't revolve around you... At the same time, the hating on people who are vegetarians or vegans because they don't eat X or Y is fucking retarded as well. If they won't buy that delicious steak in front of you, that's a good thing for you.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #366 on: January 12, 2016, 01:09:55 PM »
Sick of the liberal LGBTAH agenda

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #367 on: January 12, 2016, 01:32:47 PM »
You can live a fully healthy life as a vegan or vegetarian.. It does however take quite a lot of work and knowledge to be able to get everything you need, including B12 which you can get from other sources than red meat. Most people apparently fail at this, probably cause they suck at research and/or cooking.

I'm cool with eating meat (even at the state of the industry) and I fucking love bacon. I'd prefer to only eat wild game, but it's not an option for me. I think a lot of people eat way more meat than they need or that their bodies would like. 2" stack of meat on a sub? That's not cool or good for you, just like a lack of B12 aint good.

What bothers me, especially now after a new year, are all these "OMG I'M VEGAN/VEGETARIAN". I don't give a shit. Just like I don't care if you're gay, straight, bi or an attack helicopter. I don't give a shit so stop telling me at every single chance you get. The world doesn't revolve around you... At the same time, the hating on people who are vegetarians or vegans because they don't eat X or Y is fucking retarded as well. If they won't buy that delicious steak in front of you, that's a good thing for you.

Oh I completely agree. Hell, if anything they're healthier because they don't have processed crap that they eat. It's definitely not good to have meat every meal. I have it either at dinner or at lunch, never more than twice a day and it's either chicken and red meat or fish and red meat. And I'm not hating on him because he doesn't eat meat, I'm just knocking him because he never gets off his high horse. He's not special because he doesn't eat meat, I'm not special because I eat meat. No one is special based on their diet.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #368 on: January 12, 2016, 01:43:45 PM »
What bothers me, especially now after a new year, are all these "OMG I'M VEGAN/VEGETARIAN". I don't give a shit. Just like I don't care if you're gay, straight, bi or an attack helicopter. I don't give a shit so stop telling me at every single chance you get. The world doesn't revolve around you... At the same time, the hating on people who are vegetarians or vegans because they don't eat X or Y is fucking retarded as well.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #369 on: January 12, 2016, 01:46:49 PM »
And don't take that the wrong way, I would love the world to be a better place in all ways, but just put the info out there don't force it on people all the time.  The ones who are gonna learn from it will, if they don't, forcing them to look at it isn't gonna be any more successful.
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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #370 on: January 12, 2016, 02:08:46 PM »
And don't take that the wrong way, I would love the world to be a better place in all ways, but just put the info out there don't force it on people all the time.  The ones who are gonna learn from it will, if they don't, forcing them to look at it isn't gonna be any more successful.
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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #371 on: January 12, 2016, 04:01:13 PM »
You can live a fully healthy life as a vegan or vegetarian.. It does however take quite a lot of work and knowledge to be able to get everything you need, including B12 which you can get from other sources than red meat. Most people apparently fail at this, probably cause they suck at research and/or cooking.

I'm cool with eating meat (even at the state of the industry) and I fucking love bacon. I'd prefer to only eat wild game, but it's not an option for me. I think a lot of people eat way more meat than they need or that their bodies would like. 2" stack of meat on a sub? That's not cool or good for you, just like a lack of B12 aint good.

What bothers me, especially now after a new year, are all these "OMG I'M VEGAN/VEGETARIAN". I don't give a shit. Just like I don't care if you're gay, straight, bi or an attack helicopter. I don't give a shit so stop telling me at every single chance you get. The world doesn't revolve around you... At the same time, the hating on people who are vegetarians or vegans because they don't eat X or Y is fucking retarded as well. If they won't buy that delicious steak in front of you, that's a good thing for you.
I almost completely agree with you.

Except the attack helicopter part. If you are an attack helicopter, I most certainly prefer you tell me upfront.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #372 on: January 12, 2016, 04:43:53 PM »
I find people who eat meat to be way more annoying assholes, honestly. The reason that I don't eat meat is really only because I think it's gross and don't have a taste for it. However, before I can even give anyone a reason - as if I owe them one at all - they go into some, "awe, you're not going to ruin the night out are you?" rant. It's like people get nervous when I say that I don't eat meat. Food is an emotional thing. Different is scary to some people, they seem to take it on as a burden to themselves and panic or get angry and offended. This probably goes both ways for vegans and meat eaters alike but the reason vegans try to be more "out there" is that they're the minority.

Saying I don't eat meat makes people be all fucking weird, "like omg do you care if I eat this in front of you?" or "if you were like stranded on a desert island and there was only a cow would you eat it?". I don't know, are you gonna be offended if I eat a carrot in front of you? If there was no meat and you were stranded on a desert island would you eat an apple?

Think about how much people eat meat now vs in prehistoric times. They ate mostly fruits, grains, and vegetables because you had to hunt for your game. We know a lot more now about nutrition so you can eat whatever you want as long as you make sure to get your vi tam ins.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #373 on: January 12, 2016, 04:55:47 PM »
i was veggie for 7 yrs because of a book i read but i went to jail w/ track marks and was like 'fuck it, meat's prolly not the worst thing i'm consuming'.
i've been veggie again for i don't know, 4 months? basically i'm offended that it's illegal to beat dogs and cats yet the meat industry exists. if some animals can be tortured but not all animals then i'm boycotting the whole mess. if cruelty to animals were decriminalized i would happily kill cats and eat fried chicken. i'm a man of logic. logic rules the passions or does the body rule the mind? something, something, morrissey, morrissey.
ps i fucks w/ dat seafood and i'd eat wild game if it were abundant near me.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #374 on: January 12, 2016, 05:03:49 PM »
I know the B12 argument already got squashed in this thread, but I'm just going to say nutritional yeast is the best, super high in b12 and is also a complete protein, with a incredibly delicious nutty slightly cheesy taste. Vegan or not give it a try because it is extremely delicious, versatile and nutritious. 

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #375 on: January 12, 2016, 05:23:17 PM »
Wtf? Im not reading the other pages so I have no idea how this got to vegan stuff?

Isnt shawn powers a snowboarder/part time skater or am I completely wrong?

If your vegan or whatever I dont give a shit. Do whatever ya want to feed yourself.

I eat meat and I hunt. Who gives a shit? Well p3ta I suppose but fuck them.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #376 on: January 12, 2016, 06:04:29 PM »
This thread has been derailed pretty hard on the whole diet subject so I thought WTH.

The healthiest diet for each person has a lot to do with their personal genome and what part of the world their ancestors evolved in. The suggestion that people eat a lot of omega-3 fatty acids was based on a study done of the Inuit people who had evolved to derive as much nutrition from their particular diet as possible. Based on this, nutritionists were suggesting everyone get lots of fish oil in their diets. But not everyone's body processes it the same way.

A similar thing occurs with milk. People who can digest lactose in adulthood get more nutrition from dairy than people who are lactose intolerant. It's actually very healthy for someone with lactase persistence to consume lots of dairy but not so much for other people.

This article sums it up pretty nicely: "We will be better adapted to something eaten by our ancestors over millions of years than to, say, margarine, which we first encountered only 100 years ago. Or take a food like wheat, to which some populations (those in the Fertile Crescent) have been exposed for 10,000 years, and others (Pacific Islanders) for only 200 years. Is it surprising that Pacific Islanders have the greatest prevalence of obesity in the world (higher even than in the United States)? And should we really tell them to switch to a Mediterranean diet, heavy on grains, pulses, and dairy, to which they've had no evolutionary exposure whatsoever?"
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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #377 on: January 12, 2016, 06:06:04 PM »

Isnt shawn powers a snowboarder/part time skater or am I completely wrong?


you're thinking of shaun white


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« Reply #378 on: January 12, 2016, 06:41:10 PM »
Yeah, I'll keep the derailing going. I was vegetarian/borderline vegan for almost two years a long time ago. I had done a lot of research and based on health and ethics I made the switch. Got a job at a local health food store and one of my coworkers who was a nutritionist taught me a whole bunch of shit. I had the hookup on some of the best vitamins and supplements you could get your hands on. Ate super clean, slimmed down to a healthier weight and got in tip top shape.

Then, towards the end, my body just started craving meat. One day I'm at the local Mexican joint eating veggie tacos while my bro is eating some juicy ass steak ones. I was like, "fuck it" and ordered 4 of them. Shit was over from there. I just stay away from fast food and meat that I know is filled with garbage. I still make an effort to eat a balanced diet, but it's much less stressful not worrying if I'm eating something filled with GMO's or antibiotics. You can be a raw vegan for half your life and you'll most likely still die from some form of cancer or disease that kills you slowly.

In conclusion, I love food.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #379 on: January 12, 2016, 07:31:49 PM »
Fuck yeah RE: nutritional yeast. So good on pizza, or on some toast with avocado and hot sauce, or basically any and every savory food.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #380 on: January 12, 2016, 08:27:10 PM »
Things must be different in the States, because I've never met a sanctimonious or proselytizing vegan.

As a vegetarian, I don't think anybody likes to talk about my diet more than uppity meat eaters after finding out I'm vegetarian. I think a lot of the proselytizing vegan/vegetarian trope is similar to straight people who are offended by "the gay agenda" being shoved in their face. It's a lot more shock and unfamiliarity than actual intrusiveness.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #381 on: January 12, 2016, 08:30:28 PM »
I find people who eat meat to be way more annoying assholes, honestly. The reason that I don't eat meat is really only because I think it's gross and don't have a taste for it. However, before I can even give anyone a reason - as if I owe them one at all - they go into some, "awe, you're not going to ruin the night out are you?" rant. It's like people get nervous when I say that I don't eat meat. Food is an emotional thing. Different is scary to some people, they seem to take it on as a burden to themselves and panic or get angry and offended. This probably goes both ways for vegans and meat eaters alike but the reason vegans try to be more "out there" is that they're the minority.

Saying I don't eat meat makes people be all fucking weird, "like omg do you care if I eat this in front of you?" or "if you were like stranded on a desert island and there was only a cow would you eat it?". I don't know, are you gonna be offended if I eat a carrot in front of you? If there was no meat and you were stranded on a desert island would you eat an apple?

Think about how much people eat meat now vs in prehistoric times. They ate mostly fruits, grains, and vegetables because you had to hunt for your game. We know a lot more now about nutrition so you can eat whatever you want as long as you make sure to get your vi tam ins.

I skimmed past this before I made my post, but yeah, I've had similar experiences.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #382 on: January 13, 2016, 02:08:23 AM »
As someone who enjoys all kinds of food I've really enjoyed reading all your different approaches to eating ,opinions on the food industry and  experiences with different diets and other people's reactions to your choice but can we get back to ripping on Prawn Showers now? Maybe an update on wether he got busted or a photoshop. If not then carry on.

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« Reply #383 on: January 13, 2016, 06:50:34 AM »
Things must be different in the States, because I've never met a sanctimonious or proselytizing vegan.

As a vegetarian, I don't think anybody likes to talk about my diet more than uppity meat eaters after finding out I'm vegetarian. I think a lot of the proselytizing vegan/vegetarian trope is similar to straight people who are offended by "the gay agenda" being shoved in their face. It's a lot more shock and unfamiliarity than actual intrusiveness.

Maybe this is generally true, but I live a few blocks away from some pretty militant vegans who call me names for going to the pizza shop


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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #384 on: January 13, 2016, 07:12:57 AM »
After all this hype, I cooked a couple lobsters up and made lobster rolls this weekend. They were delicious.

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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #385 on: January 13, 2016, 07:58:53 AM »
Things must be different in the States, because I've never met a sanctimonious or proselytizing vegan.

As a vegetarian, I don't think anybody likes to talk about my diet more than uppity meat eaters after finding out I'm vegetarian. I think a lot of the proselytizing vegan/vegetarian trope is similar to straight people who are offended by "the gay agenda" being shoved in their face. It's a lot more shock and unfamiliarity than actual intrusiveness.

Maybe this is generally true, but I live a few blocks away from some pretty militant vegans who call me names for going to the pizza shop



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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #386 on: January 13, 2016, 08:24:44 AM »
Things must be different in the States, because I've never met a sanctimonious or proselytizing vegan.

As a vegetarian, I don't think anybody likes to talk about my diet more than uppity meat eaters after finding out I'm vegetarian. I think a lot of the proselytizing vegan/vegetarian trope is similar to straight people who are offended by "the gay agenda" being shoved in their face. It's a lot more shock and unfamiliarity than actual intrusiveness.

Maybe this is generally true, but I live a few blocks away from some pretty militant vegans who call me names for going to the pizza shop



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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #387 on: January 13, 2016, 08:45:42 AM »
I find people who eat meat to be way more annoying assholes, honestly. The reason that I don't eat meat is really only because I think it's gross and don't have a taste for it. However, before I can even give anyone a reason - as if I owe them one at all - they go into some, "awe, you're not going to ruin the night out are you?" rant. It's like people get nervous when I say that I don't eat meat. Food is an emotional thing. Different is scary to some people, they seem to take it on as a burden to themselves and panic or get angry and offended. This probably goes both ways for vegans and meat eaters alike but the reason vegans try to be more "out there" is that they're the minority.

Saying I don't eat meat makes people be all fucking weird, "like omg do you care if I eat this in front of you?" or "if you were like stranded on a desert island and there was only a cow would you eat it?". I don't know, are you gonna be offended if I eat a carrot in front of you? If there was no meat and you were stranded on a desert island would you eat an apple?

Think about how much people eat meat now vs in prehistoric times. They ate mostly fruits, grains, and vegetables because you had to hunt for your game. We know a lot more now about nutrition so you can eat whatever you want as long as you make sure to get your vi tam ins.

Reminds me of a Norm Macdonald joke. Something along the lines of "I don't drink, and the first response to that is 'are you an alcoholic?' I always thought alcoholics drank a whole lot."

I think the "do you care if I eat this in front of you" thing is actually people being sensitive to your restrictions.  I've been to endless bbq's with veggy people asking for a separate grill and made a whole stink about how they won't eat from a grill that "burnt dead animal" or some other hyperbolic reaction. However, if I do have a veggy person over for a bbq, I'll offer them a shot at the grill before the meat goes on. Both sides have the potential to be assholes. I've had a vegetarian roommate with a vegan girlfriend who used to scream "eww, it smells like dead animal in here" every time I was cooking meat in my own damned kitchen. He was rad, she was not. I started off trying to not offend my friend's girlfriend, but after like the 3rd or 4th time my reaction turned to something along the lines of "yep, that happens here, if you don't like it, don't come by."

Basically, many many veggy people aren't assholes, but a lot of people are prepared to preemptively respond to the PETA-types out there, and yes, they very much do exist.
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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #388 on: January 13, 2016, 09:22:57 AM »
Holy fuck that's wack ^ shocked that that actually happens, I've literally never heard of anything like that up here among adults. Perhaps it really is an American/California thing?. If you go to an omni BBQ you'd be an complete idiot to expect any aspect of it to be vegan friendly, let alone demanding that it be so. As a vegan you just have to make the best of something like that for yourself, bring a burrito or a bag of hot samosas, do your own thing and let other people do theirs. It's like asking a building owner for wax while your fucking up his new planters, you can do your thing but don't expect him to help you with it.
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Re: Shawn Powers kills lobsters because his parents don't love him
« Reply #389 on: January 13, 2016, 10:34:55 AM »
Goddamn i love eating dead animals