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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1800 on: February 19, 2017, 07:09:54 PM »

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1801 on: February 19, 2017, 07:17:03 PM »
I'll bet they spend an exorbitant amount of time discussing his new hat company.

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1802 on: February 19, 2017, 07:18:06 PM »
It's going down for real 🎶🎶
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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1803 on: February 19, 2017, 07:35:15 PM »
I'll bet they spend an exorbitant amount of time discussing his new hat company.
a hat company is all fine and dandy but $40? really?

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1804 on: February 19, 2017, 07:36:02 PM »
OH yes. Can't wait for tomorrow.
i think this will be entertaining no matter what Marc says. These podcasts have been awesome
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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1805 on: February 19, 2017, 07:42:15 PM »
I'll bet they spend an exorbitant amount of time discussing his new hat company.
a hat company is all fine and dandy but $40? really?



On Shetler's podcast Marc talked about how he and Reynolds started the company just to give hats away for free/super cheap and thought that was sick. Actually got kind of excited when I heard they were for sale to the public until I saw those prices. :/

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1806 on: February 19, 2017, 10:13:56 PM »
August 2016: 3 calls and a day at the cafe, 5 & 1/2 hours of tape and a 110 page/43,000 word interview transcription. After you enjoy his @thenineclubshow episode this evening, you've got even more @marcjohnson to look forward to in the near future ... 😉 #workingonit #onehellofanedit #gimmeaminuteortwo #likeafinewine #sorrycandlesgotintheway #SOTY #onceaSOTYalwaysaSOTY #2017yearoftheMJ #marcjohnson #mj


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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1807 on: February 19, 2017, 10:25:20 PM »
August 2016: 3 calls and a day at the cafe, 5 & 1/2 hours of tape and a 110 page/43,000 word interview transcription. After you enjoy his @thenineclubshow episode this evening, you've got even more @marcjohnson to look forward to in the near future ... 😉 #workingonit #onehellofanedit #gimmeaminuteortwo #likeafinewine #sorrycandlesgotintheway #SOTY #onceaSOTYalwaysaSOTY #2017yearoftheMJ #marcjohnson #mj



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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1808 on: February 19, 2017, 10:27:23 PM »
August 2016: 3 calls and a day at the cafe, 5 & 1/2 hours of tape and a 110 page/43,000 word interview transcription. After you enjoy his @thenineclubshow episode this evening, you've got even more @marcjohnson to look forward to in the near future ... 😉 #workingonit #onehellofanedit #gimmeaminuteortwo #likeafinewine #sorrycandlesgotintheway #SOTY #onceaSOTYalwaysaSOTY #2017yearoftheMJ #marcjohnson


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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1809 on: February 19, 2017, 10:31:47 PM »
brink really is coming through with the whole story

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1810 on: February 19, 2017, 10:38:33 PM »
August 2016: 3 calls and a day at the cafe, 5 & 1/2 hours of tape and a 110 page/43,000 word interview transcription. After you enjoy his @thenineclubshow episode this evening, you've got even more @marcjohnson to look forward to in the near future ... 😉 #workingonit #onehellofanedit #gimmeaminuteortwo #likeafinewine #sorrycandlesgotintheway #SOTY #onceaSOTYalwaysaSOTY #2017yearoftheMJ #marcjohnson #mj



Holy shit

Fuck!!! hope he doesn't make an 8 min edit out of all this.

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1811 on: February 19, 2017, 10:50:00 PM »
August 2016: 3 calls and a day at the cafe, 5 & 1/2 hours of tape and a 110 page/43,000 word interview transcription. After you enjoy his @thenineclubshow episode this evening, you've got even more @marcjohnson to look forward to in the near future ... 😉 #workingonit #onehellofanedit #gimmeaminuteortwo #likeafinewine #sorrycandlesgotintheway #SOTY #onceaSOTYalwaysaSOTY #2017yearoftheMJ #marcjohnson #mj



Damnnnnn
This thread is going to hit 100 pages easy
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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1812 on: February 19, 2017, 11:19:53 PM »
brink really is coming through with the whole story

Hope so. I like The Nine Club, it's really entertaining but it's all real nice, they never get into anything too serious. It's more like chatting among friends and that's their thing.

I have high hopes of this Brink's piece, though.

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1813 on: February 20, 2017, 12:11:09 AM »
The only thing you nerds grind down is yer keyboard keys.

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1814 on: February 20, 2017, 12:38:01 AM »
Cant believe MJ is coming back with
mind blowing, or at least cool, positiv output-
skateboarding wise - nothing else i am interested in.

He is IMO on Mckay, Way, Berra, Lee Status.

But hey surprise me - get all in, in the name
of the three stripes...

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1815 on: February 20, 2017, 01:58:58 AM »
He's got his support group (Ave and Guy) and is doing well in AA, so I hear.

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1816 on: February 20, 2017, 05:18:56 AM »
I hope my love for Carroll isn't tarnished by Brink's interview :'(

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1817 on: February 20, 2017, 06:16:58 AM »
Not sure why it's not on their YouTube but here it is:
http://www.thenineclub.com/the-nine-club-show-podcast/36-marc-johnson/2/19/2017

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1818 on: February 20, 2017, 06:20:43 AM »
1 hour and 41 minutes.

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1819 on: February 20, 2017, 06:21:21 AM »
I hope my love for Carroll isn't tarnished by Brink's interview :'(

I don't see how it would. Carroll told the truth even though it made his company look like shit, like not being able to pay riders and constantly making his top pros take pay cuts. He even told Marc to take the deal. Marc just ignored his good friend and boss at that time and was completely selfish and acting dumb as fuck. Like how would you not know you were going to be announced in the away days video when you filmed tricks for it? Marc fucked up and is an alcoholic so i wouldn't be surprised if he starts believing his own lies, hell i did that �

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1820 on: February 20, 2017, 07:23:33 AM »
maybe it was his way of getting back at lakai for all the years he spent filming for fully flared.

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1821 on: February 20, 2017, 07:32:18 AM »

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1822 on: February 20, 2017, 07:53:16 AM »
1:21:22 is where the wohle issue is adressed
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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1823 on: February 20, 2017, 08:03:46 AM »
My 2 cents:
- Mike Carroll/Lakai shouldn't expect their riders to stay when they are not getting paid what they are supposed to, at a time Nike/Adidas/Converse/New Balance has the funding to treat any skaters like a king.

- MJ was probably too overwhelmed with adult issues (alcohol, death of his mothers, debts) and probably some grudge to be able to negociate/talk peacefully with Lakai.

Skateboarding business is not what was it once was, and people running brand should understand that product quality is nowadays as important as marketing output.

In a perfect world MJ will be welcomed back on chocolate.

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1824 on: February 20, 2017, 08:18:36 AM »
[NPR Hushed Voice] - Yeah. Totally. Wow. Right, right, right.

Who's that dipshit in the middle? "Skate shoe companies make shitty shoes, Nike, Adidas and Converse make good shoes, I'm a fucking cocksucking fuckface space waster." Fuck him.

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1825 on: February 20, 2017, 08:22:58 AM »
I posted this in the actual Nine Club thread but I'm gonna double dip.


It was a decent interview and I'm glad he finally addressed it, but nothing was really answered that we didn't already know. We know that he was asked to wait for his announcement, and we sorta have to assume that he agreed because otherwise why would Carroll wait until after the premiere to kick him off Chocolate and go off about it?


I don't really fault him for switching if things are really going poorly at Crailtap, but the whole controversy is how he went about it and this doesn't really answer any of it.

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1826 on: February 20, 2017, 09:04:55 AM »
What I took from it was that he had a definite timeline as to when he would become a free agent (I think he said five months), so when the company that he was hoping to ride for at the end of that time asked for him to film tricks for a video, that had been three years in the making, he said yes to solidify that deal. If his leaving Lakai was as inevitable as was stated then I don't see it as that much of a problem. However, five months is a lifetime on the internet and it was equally inevitable that there would be backlash.

In summation; I have always liked his backside 360's, I have never found him particularly funny, and I am no more or less likely to buy addidas or lakai as a result of this whole debacle (not a nike reference).

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1827 on: February 20, 2017, 09:18:20 AM »
[NPR Hushed Voice] - Yeah. Totally. Wow. Right, right, right.

Who's that dipshit in the middle? "Skate shoe companies make shitty shoes, Nike, Adidas and Converse make good shoes, I'm a fucking cocksucking fuckface space waster." Fuck him.

The one time i want Kelly to push the button was just to see his reaction to that statement

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1828 on: February 20, 2017, 09:40:34 AM »
My 2 cents:
- Mike Carroll/Lakai shouldn't expect their riders to stay when they are not getting paid what they are supposed to, at a time Nike/Adidas/Converse/New Balance has the funding to treat any skaters like a king.

- MJ was probably too overwhelmed with adult issues (alcohol, death of his mothers, debts) and probably some grudge to be able to negociate/talk peacefully with Lakai.

Skateboarding business is not what was it once was, and people running brand should understand that product quality is nowadays as important as marketing output.

In a perfect world MJ will be welcomed back on chocolate.

I understand, but people keep making this mistake. Everything was already apparently peaceful, with MC even telling Marc to take the deal with Adidas. It was gonna be a smooth transition in which a friend was looking after a friend. People keep assuming that it was hard for Marc to be upfront about the situation, but it was a mutual agreement. The problem here is the whole introduction to the team thing in Away Days; in this case all Marc had to do was be straightforward with MC so he could negotiate with Adidas all the MJ shoes left in stock. Honesty would've been the key, and even with all the problems Marc had, the fact is he is an adult. It cannot be excused that he just blatantly acted shady knowing the backlash this would cause. Another inexcusable aspect of this issue is the legality of the whole thing, everybody has problems, but the law doesn't care about your problems. He breached his contract with Lakai, that is a fact.

This could have all been solved through honest conversations, he could've talked to MC and talked to Adidas to reach a happy medium in which both parts weren't harmed. In which both parts reached a consensus and thus all would be good.

I keep questioning if people really read that Jenkem interview or if they even understood it, shit blows my mind. People keep assuming and speculating shit when it's all there. MC called it and MJ still hasn't responded shit, which makes me believe that there is no "whole story". I think Marc's answer is just gonna be a lot of shit from the past: "He did this to this rider, he was shady in this situation. etc." In which case it is now irrelevant (but interesting) since we all make mistakes and what matters is that we evolve for the better.

But hey, maybe I just don't know the whole story ;)

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Re: Mike Carroll on the future of Crailtap
« Reply #1829 on: February 20, 2017, 10:35:57 AM »
^^
and that is the whole issue. He stated himself in the 9club interview, Away Days Premiere was at May 12th and that he was filming the tricks for his introduction on May 8th knowing that he will be in it.
Here is the part of MC interview that illustrates why people might think that MJ was the asshole...


"[...]We had to reduce pay and I just told him, you know what, this sucks. You?ve been in this for fucking years, putting your all into it, blood, sweat and tears and I wouldn?t feel comfortable asking you to stick around. We talked for a while, and I knew he was going to go skate for them. Everybody started talking about the rumors again, but it was a mutual thing and fully respectful. It was a sad moment. It sucked for me to have to tell him that, and to have to say, ?You should probably take a better offer,? because these motherfuckers are coming at you all crazy. He?s almost 40 years old, I think at this age you should go get yours. And if he was gonna stay on, I didn?t want him to be resentful for the decision.

I sent him a termination agreement over a month ago and in that agreement we asked him to hold off a while from announcing because we had our product and the agreement was to protect us and the production. But I told him I was open to talk about the agreement and change anything. We asked him to keep it on the low for a while. But I knew it was asking for a lot. But? that?s what he?s getting paid for? Then I heard more rumors and I hit him up for a couple of days and he wasn?t responding so I had to be blunt. I was like, ?Hey, I?ve been hearing these rumors that you are about to be announced at the Away Days premiere. What?s the deal with this?? I thought he was going to be on the team through at least the summer or July.

Then he finally got back to me, but was just like, ?No, there?s no announcement? who would say that?? So I asked him again, ?There?s no announcement tomorrow?? He?s like, ?No.? Then the next day, the night of the premiere I just get a text, ?Marc was just announced in the video.?
I was just like? that is insane. Last night on the phone he said nothing was happening. [...]"
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