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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #180 on: March 27, 2017, 08:14:32 AM »
Ben K look way more post-punk than skinhead.   Baggy pants?  low top docs?  thats not skinhead shit.   also, refer to previous comments about original skinheads; there are plenty of people of all races that are into the traditional skinhead scene.  The shit originally came from a love of Reggae and Ska...they were basically trying to be black or mod,but from an English working class angle.   Manolo is talking out of his ass.  

You're asking too much of people who's only skinhead knowledge is what they saw on American History X..

I'm wearing a Ben Sherman shirt as I type this, maybe I'm a fascist too  ::)


What these guys said.

It's surprising (or maybe it's not) to hear skateboarders take the "he's not a neo-nazi but kinda looks like one i saw in a movie therefore should be called out as one" approach.  If anything he looks like a normal hardcore kid, of the NY Hank Wood/Crazy Spirit variety.  He's wearing a Repulsion shirt which has nothing to do with skinheads, traditional or not.

Matt Hensley looks more like a skinhead then he does.

Also funny that in this day and age when there's actual facsists/nazi's marching down the street people are choosing to fashion police stuff like this.  Bill Danforth would like a word with you:





Im a huge bill danforth fan, but a few weeks ago a nazi tattoer came up on my explore page and the only mutual we had was billdanforthskates.
Also bill grew up directly in the scene that (besides ny) influenced skinhead hardcore punk the most.
only in skateboarding is putting an adult in a position where they might have to actually work for their income "ruining their life"  ::)

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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #181 on: March 27, 2017, 08:20:17 AM »
 neutral in this case, manolo has a point to call that out, but also neo nazi is a heave claim.  If you are gonna dress like that you should at leastt be able to come back with something educated and informative instead of "fuck you" and having the fa goons jump in. 

Did anyone catch bens insta post yesterday dm'ing manolo.  I didnt know what it was about at the time but it mad eme cringe.  Along the lines of "if you really wanna talk about this motherfucker lets meet face to face". Manolo please post if you have it hahah
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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #182 on: March 27, 2017, 08:43:53 AM »
Ben looks like the moon emoji




For real this is pretty fucking cute.

Now I just wanna give Ben K a hug.
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« Reply #183 on: March 27, 2017, 08:58:05 AM »
I only read the front page of this but...
How dare Manolo claim somebody looks like a neonazi just because they intentionally groom themselves to look like a neo-nazi!

Ben chose the look, and either he knew he was dressing like a neo-nazi, or he needed somebody to tell him he was dressing like a neo-nazi. It appears that he was informed he looked like a neo-nazi and rather than say "thanks, shit! I never realized I was putting that out there with my fashion choices!" He dug his heels in.

Its not a big deal in the end, but honestly, who the fuck dresses like that without thinking people will talk shit on them for that look? You can't be all about having an edgy look and then cry because people don't like it. That's not how reality works.
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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #184 on: March 27, 2017, 10:10:15 AM »
its kindof tricky because*we* all know ben's not racist just by virtue of who he skates for and all the dudes on the team. but in broader culture it's not that far fetched to say he looks like a neo-nazi. manolo isn't wrong for feeling the way he does about it, i can't imagine everyone is going to unpack the symbols ben wears that carefully.

personally im really sick of seeing alt-right stuff and nazi shit being displayed so casually. im so sick of trump lovers and people who justify it. i dont blame manolo.

Really agree with this. The kid rips and we all know (or at least can assume from his social circle) that he's not a neo nazi, but he is dressed like one.

As far as the skinhead/workclass origins, the majority of people aren't going to wait around for you to explain the whole fucking history of skinheads before they just assume you're a neo nazi.


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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #186 on: March 27, 2017, 10:32:37 AM »
Johnny Rotten was never punk. He was part of an edgy boy band at best.
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« Reply #187 on: March 27, 2017, 10:34:58 AM »
Johnny Rotten was never punk. He was part of an edgy boy band at best.
that may be but if you're ever wondering what members of the flip team are up to he has an uncanny grasp on their whereabouts and activities. uncanny!

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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #188 on: March 27, 2017, 10:38:14 AM »
Sex Pistols get a lifetime pass for writing "Bodies".
Such a fucking scorcher.
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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #189 on: March 27, 2017, 10:48:56 AM »
Ben looks like the moon emoji




For real this is pretty fucking cute.

Now I just wanna give Ben K a hug.


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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #190 on: March 27, 2017, 11:00:26 AM »
How many people are defending that "look" that aren't white? My guess is not many if any. Its like the same thing with the confederate flag. People claim there's nothing racist about their affinity to it, and to be honest for some people thats true, but overall its just become a symbol of hatred. There's no taking it back. If someone is a minority and they see Ben or anyone else dressed like that in person they will probably be uncomfortable at the least. Show up at a bar mitzvah dressed like that and try to get mad at the people there for being ignorant of the nuances of hardcore fashion when they assume you may be a neo nazi... Come on..

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« Reply #191 on: March 27, 2017, 11:02:43 AM »
How many people are defending that "look" that aren't white? My guess is not many if any. Its like the same thing with the confederate flag. People claim there's nothing racist about their affinity to it, and to be honest for some people thats true, but overall its just become a symbol of hatred. There's no taking it back. If someone is a minority and they see Ben or anyone else dressed like that in person they will probably be uncomfortable at the least. Show up at a bar mitzvah dressed like that and try to get mad at the people there for being ignorant of the nuances of hardcore fashion when they assume you may be a neo nazi... Come on..
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« Reply #192 on: March 27, 2017, 11:07:43 AM »
Along side the 74 page novel about Mike Carroll and the future of Crailtap, this is a giant shit thread.

Ben K should wear whatever he wants and not be a pussy about someone calling him out. Grow up.

And Malano should think twice about posting some shit that dosen't even matter.

Both of em are fucking stupid and immature. Social Media sucks!

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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #193 on: March 27, 2017, 11:27:10 AM »
Along side the 74 page novel about Mike Carroll and the future of Crailtap, this is a giant shit thread.

Ben K should wear whatever he wants and not be a pussy about someone calling him out. Grow up.

And Malano should think twice about posting some shit that dosen't even matter.

Both of em are fucking stupid and immature. Social Media sucks!

Add it to the list...

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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #194 on: March 27, 2017, 11:43:47 AM »
Ben looks like the moon emoji




For real this is pretty fucking cute.

Now I just wanna give Ben K a hug.



I am not repulsed by this adorable moon man!

Here comes the hug train!
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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #195 on: March 27, 2017, 11:54:03 AM »
I don't stay on white supremacist fashion trends but if I saw that pic of him, I don't think I'd really think twice. To me, that just looks like something certain white kid would wear. I guess I agree that he should at least know what his clothes embodies. I went to middle school in the 90's and remember people telling me I shouldn't wear all red or all blue cause of gang banging back in those times. I thought it was utter bullshit to do so but I listened cause I didn't want some random bullshit to happen to me.



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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #196 on: March 27, 2017, 11:57:10 AM »
This is why everyone makes fun of SLAP.

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« Reply #197 on: March 27, 2017, 12:02:46 PM »
Johnny Rotten was never punk. He was part of an edgy boy band at best.
that may be but if you're ever wondering what members of the flip team are up to he has an uncanny grasp on their whereabouts and activities. uncanny!

Wonder what ole JR thinks about the new Flip squad??

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« Reply #198 on: March 27, 2017, 12:03:46 PM »
This is why everyone makes fun of SLAP.
That and people treating the MJ chocolate drama like its the Iran hostage crisis. But who gives a fuck really?
The irony about this board is most people just think of it as a place to talk shit about unimportant shit. Like, what company does what doesn't matter in the large scale, its just a distraction. People talk shit on sports and culture because its a harmless pastime for the most part.
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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #199 on: March 27, 2017, 12:38:42 PM »

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« Reply #200 on: March 27, 2017, 12:50:04 PM »
Johnny Rotten was never punk. He was part of an edgy boy band at best.

LOL, I know it's your thing to think you are smarter than everyone else, but shut the fuck up.
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« Reply #201 on: March 27, 2017, 01:36:58 PM »
Johnny Rotten was never punk. He was part of an edgy boy band at best.

LOL, I know it's your thing to think you are smarter than everyone else, but shut the fuck up.
but he's right?
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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #202 on: March 27, 2017, 01:43:53 PM »
Along side the 74 page novel about Mike Carroll and the future of Crailtap, this is a giant shit thread.

Ben K should wear whatever he wants and not be a pussy about someone calling him out. Grow up.

And Malano should think twice about posting some shit that dosen't even matter.

Both of em are fucking stupid and immature. Social Media sucks!

Add it to the list...

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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #203 on: March 27, 2017, 01:47:12 PM »
This is why everyone makes fun of SLAP.
That and people treating the MJ chocolate drama like its the Iran hostage crisis. But who gives a fuck really?
The irony about this board is most people just think of it as a place to talk shit about unimportant shit. Like, what company does what doesn't matter in the large scale, its just a distraction. People talk shit on sports and culture because its a harmless pastime for the most part.
i dont really like his skating as of lately, but his recent andale commercial was fucking driving me nuts, if i ever hear someone play that song at a party imma break that phone/computer/cd whatever
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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #204 on: March 27, 2017, 01:52:56 PM »
Johnny Rotten was never punk. He was part of an edgy boy band at best.

LOL, I know it's your thing to think you are smarter than everyone else, but shut the fuck up.
but he's right?

So a singer from a band that helped start an entire punk movement isn't punk, and the band themselves (who refused to attend their own acceptance into the rock n roll hall of fame ceremony) are not punk, but a boy band? OK...

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« Reply #205 on: March 27, 2017, 01:54:53 PM »
Johnny Rotten was never punk. He was part of an edgy boy band at best.

LOL, I know it's your thing to think you are smarter than everyone else, but shut the fuck up.
This has nothing to do with being smarter than anybody. I honestly assumed everybody knew the story with the sex pistols, but simply put, they were a pre-fab band created and given a look  by a guy named Malcolm McClaren, which is very un-punk, but is identical to how boy bands work.
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« Reply #206 on: March 27, 2017, 01:59:02 PM »
This is why everyone makes fun of SLAP.
That and people treating the MJ chocolate drama like its the Iran hostage crisis. But who gives a fuck really?
The irony about this board is most people just think of it as a place to talk shit about unimportant shit. Like, what company does what doesn't matter in the large scale, its just a distraction. People talk shit on sports and culture because its a harmless pastime for the most part.
i dont really like his skating as of lately, but his recent andale commercial was fucking driving me nuts, if i ever hear someone play that song at a party imma break that phone/computer/cd whatever
it it's a cd let them keep it bro, joke's on them

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Re: manolo tapes/ ben k beef?
« Reply #207 on: March 27, 2017, 02:18:01 PM »
So a singer from a band that helped start an entire punk movement isn't punk, and the band themselves (who refused to attend their own acceptance into the rock n roll hall of fame ceremony) are not punk, but a boy band? OK...

what did you just hear the sex pistols yesterday
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« Reply #208 on: March 27, 2017, 02:22:41 PM »
It's music....music

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« Reply #209 on: March 27, 2017, 02:24:18 PM »
Johnny Rotten was never punk. He was part of an edgy boy band at best.

LOL, I know it's your thing to think you are smarter than everyone else, but shut the fuck up.
This has nothing to do with being smarter than anybody. I honestly assumed everybody knew the story with the sex pistols, but simply put, they were a pre-fab band created and given a look ? by a guy named Malcolm McClaren, which is very un-punk, but is identical to how boy bands work.

I see your point Gip, and I know about Malcolm McClaren, but a band with history that involves murder, heroin & violence (among everything else) can hardly be labelled a "boy band"

Anyway.. Ben K rips and I enjoy watching him skate. Someone described his skating in an older thread (maybe when Hockey II came out?) as "he skates like he's over it". I can see it!