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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2017, 09:24:29 AM »
I side with the inventor..he was doing them 29 years ago up stages?  ???






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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2017, 10:55:38 AM »
Moto Shibata does em on vert and they're glorious..

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2017, 11:20:21 AM »
The difference between an impossible and a 3 shove are if it wraps. The difference between a good impossible and an okay/bad impossible is how good the wrap is. If it wraps, even a little bit on their toes, it's an impossible it's just a pretty shitty one. It's like a Greco kickflip vs a Reynolds kickflip. They're both kickflips but one sucks (in fairness to Jim mine looked like his for a long, long, long time).

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2017, 11:26:17 AM »
It's unfair to compare anyone's impossible to Dylan, his were that good.

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1. Dylan
2. Jon Goeman
3. Jon Rob Moore
-1 for not including Ed

It's kind of like when you don't fully pop a trick.

Yeah you did the trick, but cmon.
Yeah, exactly. Its the rocket mob flip of impossibles.

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2017, 11:48:30 AM »
I side with the inventor..he was doing them 29 years ago up stages?  ???






my favorite person to argue about, fuck him, prove that he invented it or any other of the tricks he and they claim he invented.

Yowza, where did that come from?  I totally understand the reality that most pro's credited with "inventing" tricks probably didn't, but impossible is so weird I'd never doubt the Mutt made that up.
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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2017, 12:05:36 PM »
I side with the inventor..he was doing them 29 years ago up stages??  ???






my favorite person to argue about, fuck him, prove that he invented it or any other of the tricks he and they claim he invented.

Yowza, where did that come from??  I totally understand the reality that most pro's credited with "inventing" tricks probably didn't, but impossible is so weird I'd never doubt the Mutt made that up.

hahaha, I've had a grudge with him since a demo in '94 or so, so I love to pick on/discredit him, that pigeon toed motherfucker
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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2017, 12:12:56 PM »
Moto Shibata does em on vert and they're glorious..

hell yea.
Bucky used to do them on vert to fakie in like 1990. I remember a thing in the mag about it.

googled it..guess he's still doing them (tail grab). 

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2017, 04:05:02 PM »
Far as I can see they're totally different tricks, done differently. 360 shuv is done like a pop shove it, obviously. You don't pop an impossible, just take off the front foot and scoop it around. I'd say that even 360 shuvs where the foot sort of stays on the grip don't count as impossibles. Dylan and Ed do them properly. Especially with Ed it's easy to see the difference.

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2017, 04:17:05 PM »
If you do them like the second one, we all know you aren't proud of yourself. Nobody is rushing in here like "HEY I DO THEM LIKE 360 SHUVITS THAT ARE SCOOPED HARD AND I LOVE IT"

As for me... I can't do legit impossibles, I can do hella scooped 360 shuvits that could be maybe played off as impossibles for some children, but I don't do them.
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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2017, 04:18:24 PM »
Ollie Impossible > Dylan's pressure flip looking impossible > toe dangle 3 shuv

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2017, 05:51:57 PM »
my favorite person to argue about, fuck him, prove that he invented it or any other of the tricks he and they claim he invented.
you honestly think Rodney didn't invent all those tricks?

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2017, 06:03:33 PM »
Grecos answer to this thread...


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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2017, 06:10:05 PM »
Grecos answer to this thread...



I'm 95% sure Greco checks SLAP and wanted to make a point.

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2017, 06:19:21 PM »
Grecos answer to this thread...



hard to hate on that. 

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2017, 07:56:06 PM »
The second one could go either way. Spinning it more horizontally does not preclude it from being an impossible. It just looks like his back foot loses contact on the last few frames. And I don't see the scoop action. Vert impossibles have more leeway since they mostly fling it out and catch it anyway.

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2017, 08:41:30 PM »
It's two different tricks.

Quit debating this

Watch Ed, Rodney, Dylan, fuck even walker Ryan.

If it doesn't look like that it's a 360 shove it

Anyone arguing this can't do both, or you'd know just how different they are

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2017, 09:07:55 PM »
Ollie Impossible > Dylan's pressure flip looking impossible > toe dangle 3 shuv

? You have any examples?

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2017, 08:59:55 AM »
my favorite person to argue about, fuck him, prove that he invented it or any other of the tricks he and they claim he invented.
you honestly think Rodney didn't invent all those tricks?


Jed is the first person to have documented switch tres not Rodney, where's that stupid list from the plan b ad, just look at it, it's absurd to claim that list
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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2017, 09:35:11 AM »
Far as I can see they're totally different tricks, done differently. 360 shuv is done like a pop shove it, obviously. You don't pop an impossible, just take off the front foot and scoop it around. I'd say that even 360 shuvs where the foot sort of stays on the grip don't count as impossibles. Dylan and Ed do them properly. Especially with Ed it's easy to see the difference.
Got it. You've never even tried an impossible.
When you scoop an impossible, if you point your toe, rather than wrapping around your foot vertically, it wraps around your pointed toe, giving it a horizontal spin around the foot rather than the vertical one.  You can see the difference between an intended 360 shove it and what I'll call a "controversial impossible" by which foot is the axis of the spin. If the front foot stays over it, they meant to 360 shove it. If the back foot stays over/attached when it spins, the person doing it will claim impossible- though apparently many people here will say its not.
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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2017, 09:42:36 AM »
Girls are boys now shit doesn't matter anymore.

Kept your back foot on the board? You did an impossible but you fucking suck.

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2017, 10:19:29 AM »
if the top of your back shoe touches your griptape you get a cookie.

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2017, 10:59:29 AM »
It is like claiming a smith grind without touching the ledge/coping with your board, doesn't count. Try again.

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2017, 11:47:40 AM »
Far as I can see they're totally different tricks, done differently. 360 shuv is done like a pop shove it, obviously. You don't pop an impossible, just take off the front foot and scoop it around. I'd say that even 360 shuvs where the foot sort of stays on the grip don't count as impossibles. Dylan and Ed do them properly. Especially with Ed it's easy to see the difference.
Got it. You've never even tried an impossible.
When you scoop an impossible, if you point your toe, rather than wrapping around your foot vertically, it wraps around your pointed toe, giving it a horizontal spin around the foot rather than the vertical one.  You can see the difference between an intended 360 shove it and what I'll call a "controversial impossible" by which foot is the axis of the spin. If the front foot stays over it, they meant to 360 shove it. If the back foot stays over/attached when it spins, the person doing it will claim impossible- though apparently many people here will say its not.

new trick name:  the sucky impossible is now known as the "controverssible" 

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2017, 12:53:19 PM »
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If it doesn't look like this, it's not an impossible.

Dylan's however were so good that they are another trick entirely, within the impossible family but meant only for saints and gods to accomplish.

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2017, 05:06:10 PM »
Full wrap for it to be a real impossible. I'm in the long process of learning this trick and if I don't see my graphic when I wrap my board, then I don't see it as improvement. It's hard to wrap it every single time, but them's the breaks.

It's kind of like when you don't fully pop a trick.

Yeah you did the trick, but cmon.
That's a good way of putting it. Also similar when you do a rock n' roll and don't deck it. That's just my opinion though, and we all take shortcuts with tricks sometimes.

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2017, 10:29:29 PM »
Far as I can see they're totally different tricks, done differently. 360 shuv is done like a pop shove it, obviously. You don't pop an impossible, just take off the front foot and scoop it around. I'd say that even 360 shuvs where the foot sort of stays on the grip don't count as impossibles. Dylan and Ed do them properly. Especially with Ed it's easy to see the difference.
Got it. You've never even tried an impossible.
When you scoop an impossible, if you point your toe, rather than wrapping around your foot vertically, it wraps around your pointed toe, giving it a horizontal spin around the foot rather than the vertical one.  You can see the difference between an intended 360 shove it and what I'll call a "controversial impossible" by which foot is the axis of the spin. If the front foot stays over it, they meant to 360 shove it. If the back foot stays over/attached when it spins, the person doing it will claim impossible- though apparently many people here will say its not.

I have tried them quite a bit, actually, though with less success than I would have wished for. Anyways, I think that the kind of impossible that Ed or Greco or Rodney in the gif above does is the real deal. Granted, getting it to wrap vertically is rather difficult, so there's various gradations of sloppiness.

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2017, 12:00:32 PM »
If it looks like a 360 shuv, it's a 360 shuv
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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2017, 02:33:59 PM »
hahaha, I've had a grudge with him since a demo in '94 or so, so I love to pick on/discredit him, that pigeon toed motherfucker

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2017, 02:45:25 PM »
hahaha, I've had a grudge with him since a demo in '94 or so, so I love to pick on/discredit him, that pigeon toed motherfucker

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Re: Impossibles
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2017, 03:04:22 PM »
#pressureflipimpossible confirms this is possible

Full wrap for it to be a real impossible. I'm in the long process of learning this trick and if I don't see my graphic when I wrap my board, then I don't see it as improvement. It's hard to wrap it every single time, but them's the breaks.

It's kind of like when you don't fully pop a trick.

Yeah you did the trick, but cmon.
That's a good way of putting it. Also similar when you do a rock n' roll and don't deck it. That's just my opinion though, and we all take shortcuts with tricks sometimes.

Brother. Hang your toes off the edge of the pocket or tail and just scoop down then suck your feet  up