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Evidence for God
« on: August 11, 2017, 08:34:22 AM »

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2017, 08:47:06 AM »
guess computers have souls and also prove the existence of god

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 09:05:54 AM »
Well, that settles it!
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 09:06:16 AM »

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 09:47:15 AM »
questions from an agnostic bored to death by obnoxious atheism and obnoxious monotheism:

if one god can bring itself into existence/have always existed, what precludes that possibility for a 2nd 3rd or 4th god, (etc.)?
couldn't an infinite number of gods have come up into existence at the same moment?
using the argument from the first video, why does each mind have to be made in the image of the same god? couldn't each mind be an image of a different god? couldn't parts of minds come from different sources?

why do people do people involved in organized religion make assumptions about things they know they cannot possibly comprehend?

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2017, 09:48:08 AM »
also I didn't watch the second video cuz the first one was really boring

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2017, 10:00:51 AM »
This is further evidence of God.
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2017, 10:03:13 AM »
Simon, your skating was cool when you wore a penny suit and skated ironing boards, but I lost respect when you said this to our beloved fellow slap pal, GAY.

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It's funny/sad because I was raised in the church and loved it. Spent a lot of my free time there. Then my mom died of cancer. Several years after that I realized I was gay. Talk about bummed. All that time I thought I was special because the sin of lusting over women seemed to have just passed me by...little did I know. The church and religion got rid of ME, not the other way around. I went to the leaders of the church for help and they tossed me out. My family threw me out too. Everything I had been raised to believe in rejected me. And for anyone who brings that "gay is a choice" bullshit. If gay is a choice for me then it is for everyone else too, which means that when you go into a room you always find the men as attractive as the women...you just choose to get a boner for the women. I mean...why should I be so lucky to get this choice but you didn't? Trust me...I wouldn't EVER have chosen to be gay. In fact I tried and tried for the opposite to be true. Wasn't in the cards. And I prayed and cried over it until I was out of tears...no luck...God wasn't listening. To not accept myself was to spit in the face of God...to think I knew better than to accept what He created.

Simon, I appreciate your spirit and I think you're well intentioned, but religion sucks. It has destroyed far more lives than it has helped to build up. Talk to an "ex-gay" in the church and tell me he doesn't lisp. You can't. It teaches people like me to loathe themselves over something we didn't want in the first place...but something that is quite core to who we are. It was only when I learned to accept myself that I ever had anything close to a spiritual experience.

I am also in recovery from meth addiction...will turn 10 this year if I stay on the track I'm on. If God really hated me for being gay (which hasn't changed...still gay) he could easily have let me slip quietly into the grip of serious addiction. Instead I was given a moment of grace.

I pray now, but I don't know if it's to anything...I just feel like it helps me shift my perspective to something outside of myself. I ask for help in the morning and I say thanks at night. I don't try to convince others what they should or shouldn't believe. I live and let live. I can't stand spiritual people (yoga dorks and buddhist types come to mind) but don't deny that they have found something that works for them...so I do my best to not judge...I just take what works for me and leave the rest.

Like I said, I think you're intentions are good but this thread feels like proselytizing. Take care and congratulations on your sobriety. I know that is a hard-fought battle.
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Hey buddy. Sorry to hear about the rough spots in your journey in life. I'm not an expert on this topic, but the former homosexuals that I have talked to have said that their sexual behavior wound up being the root of their emotional and spiritual problems. I have found personally that trying to obey the Bible the best that I can has helped me greatly in life. I know the Bible speaks a lot on sexuality, if your ever in the mood you might want to check out Romans 1:23-27 and 1 Corinthians 6:9. These passages have been a great help to a lot of people. peace.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2017, 10:09:01 AM »
Special note: have u seen god ???
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2017, 10:21:02 AM »
Uh oh...now I'm starting to question it. I'm so conflicted!
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2017, 10:27:14 AM »
Well shit I guess I believe in god now...
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2017, 10:45:07 AM »
questions from an agnostic bored to death by obnoxious atheism and obnoxious monotheism:

if one god can bring itself into existence/have always existed, what precludes that possibility for a 2nd 3rd or 4th god, (etc.)?
couldn't an infinite number of gods have come up into existence at the same moment?
using the argument from the first video, why does each mind have to be made in the image of the same god? couldn't each mind be an image of a different god? couldn't parts of minds come from different sources?

why do people do people involved in organized religion make assumptions about things they know they cannot possibly comprehend?


hume covered that in dialogs concerning natural religion

David Hume: Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion - Summary and Analysis

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2017, 11:29:02 AM »
I don't think you could make any assumptions about the morality of multiple gods who may be in conflict with each other. That video only addresses my last question and only from a monotheistic standpoint, which is exactly the hang-up I was talking about.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2017, 12:24:33 PM »
He's a good rapper, but I'm not sure if he's qualified to be a deity.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2017, 12:26:37 PM »
Get back on your self imposed Slap exile Simon.
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2017, 12:34:37 PM »
Are those videos of psychedelic mushrooms? I didn't click

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2017, 12:42:14 PM »
Believe in yourself, you don't need a babysitter.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2017, 02:56:59 PM »
Hey Simon, send me all your money and worship me.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2017, 03:08:15 PM »
Does anyone want to start a megachurch with me?

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2017, 03:58:38 PM »
Does anyone want to start a megachurch with me?
Start? This guy will help build it, brick by brick. As long as it's mega.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2017, 11:49:25 PM »
"Man created god in his own image."
-Feuerbach


"But if cattle and horses and lions had hands
or could paint with their hands and create works such as men do,
horses like horses and cattle like cattle
also would depict the gods' shapes and make their bodies
of such a sort as the form they themselves have.
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Ethiopians say that their gods are snub-nosed [σιμούς] and black
Thracians that they are pale and red-haired."
-Xenophanes

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2017, 12:06:08 AM »
If you believe in god, you believe in satan. 

I don't believe in satan.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2017, 01:42:26 AM »
Dear religious people who want to argue,

You believe that a creator exists because the universe is too complex to have just happened by itself. Your creator must then be more complex than the universe, or at the very least no less complex, but you believe this creator just happened/always existed. So, by your own reasoning it makes more sense to believe the universe came into existence by itself or always existed.
The whole creationism idea is actually circular and false logic.

Game, set and match.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2017, 05:25:45 AM »
I don't think you could make any assumptions about the morality of multiple gods who may be in conflict with each other. That video only addresses my last question and only from a monotheistic standpoint, which is exactly the hang-up I was talking about.

that video covers argument by design which covers the multiple diety\creator's creator angle

Dear religious people who want to argue,

You believe that a creator exists because the universe is too complex to have just happened by itself. Your creator must then be more complex than the universe, or at the very least no less complex, but you believe this creator just happened/always existed. So, by your own reasoning it makes more sense to believe the universe came into existence by itself or always existed.
The whole creationism idea is actually circular and false logic.

Game, set and match.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2017, 05:59:08 AM »
The question of whether there is a God

A man asked Mr. K. whether there is a God. Mr. K. said: ?I advise you to consider whether, depending on the answer, your behavior would change. If it would not change, then we can drop the question. If it would change, then I can at least be of help to the extent that I can say, you have already decided: you need a God.?

Bertolt Brecht:
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2017, 06:06:08 AM »
I'm going to Valhalla when I die.
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2017, 08:36:04 AM »
I can suck my own dick. Therefore, God exists.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2017, 06:38:11 PM »
Get back on your self imposed Slap exile Simon.

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2017, 07:27:14 PM »

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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2017, 07:28:08 PM »
I can suck my own dick. Therefore, God exists.
Like just the tip? Or all the way down?