AntiHero - Urban Mutation

[Jehoshaphat Augustus]

Peep these lil Young Urban Professionals in here!

It's proven that the "trickle-down" economics from gentrification only lasts until the bubble pops and Mark Zuckerburgs' colleagues move on to the next "SodoSopa." Puerto Rico for example: When the FED stopped giving Pharmaceutical companies exclusive tax breaks to set up shop in Puerto Rico per Obama, 19+ entire drug companies fled the island within the week of the decision, leaving the fucking debt/high priced structures/amenities that few native to the island could typically afford, and this was more than 6 months before the devastation of Hurricane Maria.

"greed" for lack of a better word, is good...and you should be buried with all of your daddy's cash

[Zurg]

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Terrible. How people can actually listen to music that angsty in there 20s (or older) is shocking.

Gentrification should be applauded.

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people die on the streets everyday in a country with more than enough shelters and more than enough food

fuck you, and fuck stoop kid's mortgage

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I'm going to be honest here - it's not clear you know what gentrification is.

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the process of renovating and improving a house or district so that it conforms to middle-class taste.

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Let's drill it in with an example.

City A, existing in a (by some trait) desirable location, has been around X years. Because of this trait, multiple people, as well as companies, would like to go to City A. Because the demand to live/operate in City A increases faster than does available supply, pricing goes up. As people with higher incomes flock to the area, renovation occurs across the city, and a crop of new businesses/restaurants/etc. geared towards the new, higher-income residents pop up. Old tenants, who can no longer afford to live in the area, get priced out, and move elsewhere.

Two things:

First, shelter/food access have nothing to do with gentrification. A city that excels in options for both can be gentrified just as easily as one that has no such services in place. Not sure where you were going with that. It can be argued that a city would be better fit to provide such services post-gentrification, given the larger tax pool and (if studies are to be believed) more philanthropic population.

Second, I would love for someone to argue why gentrification is bad. I concede that it's sad that communities get displaced, sure, but I think the 'first-come, first-serve' basis of residency is morally worse than is any displacement. There are plenty of cities in the United States. If you can't afford to live in an in-demand city, move elsewhere or adopt the skills required to do so.

By all means, gentrification is a net-gain for a city. Crime lowers. The tax pool increases. Places previously rarely-traversed open up. Communities grow. In some perverted way it's almost like the city is evolving.

But yeah. Fuck me and fuck stoop kid for having different opinions than you. Looking forward to seeing you volunteer in the soup kitchen this week!

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100%. I feel like this is kind of the same as immigration. People don't see the benefits of it and only want hold on some dear memories of their past. Evolve or die (move somewhere else). I used to live in an area know for it's rustic bohemian vibes where drunks and artist types lived together and when the gentrification hit the place sure it changed and different people moved there. The artist and other creative types moved elsewhere and formed a new cultural hub which has yet not been "ruined" by yuppies.  Sure some people have to move but do people think that the lower income people don't have any benefit of it at all?

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So people have to leave their home because they can't afford it-that means uprooting families, leaving their friends they've known for years, in many cases having to find a new job because all the yuppies want to live where you've always been all of the sudden.  God forbid they are elderly or handicapped.  SF (and most other cities) are not building lower/middle class housing, everything is luxury and targeted to one demographic only-and it isn't you.  Seattle has one of the worst cases of homelessness since Amazon has whitewashed that city, and that shit is coming your way too if you live in ANY coastal city.  Is that good?  Its way more than just "drunks and artist types" that get pushed out-median rent for a one bedroom in SF is around $3200 a month.  My family of teachers had to move from an area they'd been in for 30 years and now have to commute over an hour each way to get to work.  Fuck off for being an advocate of this shit, put down the Ayn Rand book.

eventually how will anyone be able to have a lower income job there? even the upper class need teachers, but i guess that could all become privatized and have those teachers compensated accordingly to the area. what about people in the food service industry? hope some of that money trickles down in tips and is enough for rent? 

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Terrible. How people can actually listen to music that angsty in there 20s (or older) is shocking.

Gentrification should be applauded.

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people die on the streets everyday in a country with more than enough shelters and more than enough food

fuck you, and fuck stoop kid's mortgage

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I'm going to be honest here - it's not clear you know what gentrification is.

From Google:

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the process of renovating and improving a house or district so that it conforms to middle-class taste.

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Let's drill it in with an example.

City A, existing in a (by some trait) desirable location, has been around X years. Because of this trait, multiple people, as well as companies, would like to go to City A. Because the demand to live/operate in City A increases faster than does available supply, pricing goes up. As people with higher incomes flock to the area, renovation occurs across the city, and a crop of new businesses/restaurants/etc. geared towards the new, higher-income residents pop up. Old tenants, who can no longer afford to live in the area, get priced out, and move elsewhere.

Two things:

First, shelter/food access have nothing to do with gentrification. A city that excels in options for both can be gentrified just as easily as one that has no such services in place. Not sure where you were going with that. It can be argued that a city would be better fit to provide such services post-gentrification, given the larger tax pool and (if studies are to be believed) more philanthropic population.

Second, I would love for someone to argue why gentrification is bad. I concede that it's sad that communities get displaced, sure, but I think the 'first-come, first-serve' basis of residency is morally worse than is any displacement. There are plenty of cities in the United States. If you can't afford to live in an in-demand city, move elsewhere or adopt the skills required to do so.

By all means, gentrification is a net-gain for a city. Crime lowers. The tax pool increases. Places previously rarely-traversed open up. Communities grow. In some perverted way it's almost like the city is evolving.

But yeah. Fuck me and fuck stoop kid for having different opinions than you. Looking forward to seeing you volunteer in the soup kitchen this week!

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100%. I feel like this is kind of the same as immigration. People don't see the benefits of it and only want hold on some dear memories of their past. Evolve or die (move somewhere else). I used to live in an area know for it's rustic bohemian vibes where drunks and artist types lived together and when the gentrification hit the place sure it changed and different people moved there. The artist and other creative types moved elsewhere and formed a new cultural hub which has yet not been "ruined" by yuppies.  Sure some people have to move but do people think that the lower income people don't have any benefit of it at all?

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So people have to leave their home because they can't afford it-that means uprooting families, leaving their friends they've known for years, in many cases having to find a new job because all the yuppies want to live where you've always been all of the sudden.  God forbid they are elderly or handicapped.  SF (and most other cities) are not building lower/middle class housing, everything is luxury and targeted to one demographic only-and it isn't you.  Seattle has one of the worst cases of homelessness since Amazon has whitewashed that city, and that shit is coming your way too if you live in ANY coastal city.  Is that good?  Its way more than just "drunks and artist types" that get pushed out-median rent for a one bedroom in SF is around $3200 a month.  My family of teachers had to move from an area they'd been in for 30 years and now have to commute over an hour each way to get to work.  Fuck off for being an advocate of this shit, put down the Ayn Rand book.

Long-term residents are not easily "uprooted" in California. Your family didn't move because of rent. If they truly were there for 30 years as you claim, proposition 13 (among other rent control acts) keeps their rent extremely affordable. The HR lady at my work lives in a nice apartment in a very hip area of Oakland. She makes ~$40k/year.

[the snake]

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How does one get their trucks that loose and surfey? Like in the clip of Julien doing the back 50.

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Ride Ace (Julien does).

a back grind (5-0 or 50-50) like that is my next goal in life !

[jorge]

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Terrible. How people can actually listen to music that angsty in there 20s (or older) is shocking.

Gentrification should be applauded.

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people die on the streets everyday in a country with more than enough shelters and more than enough food

fuck you, and fuck stoop kid's mortgage

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I'm going to be honest here - it's not clear you know what gentrification is.

From Google:

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the process of renovating and improving a house or district so that it conforms to middle-class taste.

[close]

Let's drill it in with an example.

City A, existing in a (by some trait) desirable location, has been around X years. Because of this trait, multiple people, as well as companies, would like to go to City A. Because the demand to live/operate in City A increases faster than does available supply, pricing goes up. As people with higher incomes flock to the area, renovation occurs across the city, and a crop of new businesses/restaurants/etc. geared towards the new, higher-income residents pop up. Old tenants, who can no longer afford to live in the area, get priced out, and move elsewhere.

Two things:

First, shelter/food access have nothing to do with gentrification. A city that excels in options for both can be gentrified just as easily as one that has no such services in place. Not sure where you were going with that. It can be argued that a city would be better fit to provide such services post-gentrification, given the larger tax pool and (if studies are to be believed) more philanthropic population.

Second, I would love for someone to argue why gentrification is bad. I concede that it's sad that communities get displaced, sure, but I think the 'first-come, first-serve' basis of residency is morally worse than is any displacement. There are plenty of cities in the United States. If you can't afford to live in an in-demand city, move elsewhere or adopt the skills required to do so.

By all means, gentrification is a net-gain for a city. Crime lowers. The tax pool increases. Places previously rarely-traversed open up. Communities grow. In some perverted way it's almost like the city is evolving.

But yeah. Fuck me and fuck stoop kid for having different opinions than you. Looking forward to seeing you volunteer in the soup kitchen this week!

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100%. I feel like this is kind of the same as immigration. People don't see the benefits of it and only want hold on some dear memories of their past. Evolve or die (move somewhere else). I used to live in an area know for it's rustic bohemian vibes where drunks and artist types lived together and when the gentrification hit the place sure it changed and different people moved there. The artist and other creative types moved elsewhere and formed a new cultural hub which has yet not been "ruined" by yuppies.  Sure some people have to move but do people think that the lower income people don't have any benefit of it at all?

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So people have to leave their home because they can't afford it-that means uprooting families, leaving their friends they've known for years, in many cases having to find a new job because all the yuppies want to live where you've always been all of the sudden.  God forbid they are elderly or handicapped.  SF (and most other cities) are not building lower/middle class housing, everything is luxury and targeted to one demographic only-and it isn't you.  Seattle has one of the worst cases of homelessness since Amazon has whitewashed that city, and that shit is coming your way too if you live in ANY coastal city.  Is that good?  Its way more than just "drunks and artist types" that get pushed out-median rent for a one bedroom in SF is around $3200 a month.  My family of teachers had to move from an area they'd been in for 30 years and now have to commute over an hour each way to get to work.  Fuck off for being an advocate of this shit, put down the Ayn Rand book.

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Long-term residents are not easily "uprooted" in California. Your family didn't move because of rent. If they truly were there for 30 years as you claim, proposition 13 (among other rent control acts) keeps their rent extremely affordable. The HR lady at my work lives in a nice apartment in a very hip area of Oakland. She makes ~$40k/year.

Good job telling me about my life, appreciate that.  Never said my family lived in SF, we are from a city that has no rent protection laws in place, and they most certainly were priced out.  If you have been to say the Mission in SF maybe 10 years ago, you should go back and see it now.  Tell me no one got pushed out.  Tell me everyone is protected through prop 13.  Or, go to NYC which has rent control and yet, people are being priced out of there as well.  Gentrification is great!

[planman]

Antihero does no wrong. That was sick

[botefdunn]

great edit. Kanfoush is always improving, and I liked him from the beginning anyway.

3:30 is one of the best bs powerslides in memory.

[ImportantGuy]

Any video that sparks heated debates about gentrification and darwinism is surely a good one.

[Silky Johnson]

that back 5-0

Definition of style

[bandwayrules]

Any Stranger footage is like finding gold...this made me so happy.  His part in Skypager is still a top 5 part for me.  His kickflip over the hip of the old Benicia park in Fucktards is still my favorite kickflip of all time. 

Gerwer and Kanfoush were a nice bonus. 

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

I find it kind of odd how they used No Trend,

dystopia would have worked too but now it's some supreme trend band to listen to

[schralp pal]

Soon the earthquake will come and all the condos will be abandoned and stranger and his fraternity of skateboarders will take back the streets and decide if SFs era of conspicuous consumption was really that bad

[pinche gringo]

How does one get their trucks that loose and surfey? Like in the clip of Julien doing the back 50.

Remove the top and bottom washers.

[Rasmus]

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Second, I would love for someone to argue why gentrification is bad. I concede that it's sad that communities get displaced, sure, but I think the 'first-come, first-serve' basis of residency is morally worse than is any displacement. There are plenty of cities in the United States. If you can't afford to live in an in-demand city, move elsewhere or adopt the skills required to do so.

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Just gonna jump in here and return to this question. As someone who comes from (socialdemocratic) Scandinavia (Denmark/Copenhagen) I first of all think there's an ethical question in which for us to function as a democracy we have to make sure that the group (which Agamben has analyzed is a part of every democracy. In some book I can't recall the name of right now) that are always neglected will be heard. That's my political opinion that the rulers of democracy has to take care of everyone - regardless of their contribution to society as a hole. That's a socialist ethical argument. I would like to see you argue against this if we can find a common premise of how society as a whole should work. (Disclaimer: If you want to say the trickle down economy will work, it's effect have never been seen other places than in theory).

Second of all there's also a capitalist argue that says society has to intervene in housing prices. A lot of the new breed of capital makers (the so-called creative class) are attracted to diverse communities. If you want to attract these app-developers/film-festival-producers/academics-(of-the-humanities) you'll want to make sure that you don't chase out the lower/working-class. In Asia there have been a lot of experiments where they city-planned so-called "Smart-Cities" (Cities that cater to the before-mentioned group), but none of those have succeeded since what a lot these young entrepreneurs are after is "soul". That is a rich history and a very diverse culture.

My solution for this is actually city-planning, but making sure that you build (what is in Danish called almene - translates to regular) apartments. That is housings which aren't allowed to exceed a certain price (I think in Copenhagen a "almen" 2-room apartment aren't allowed to be exceed 1000-1100 $). That would be a social-city-plan.

[Willie]

American cities rarely have politicians who are willing to have that much involvement in what developers do with private property. (Especially when palms are greased.)

The city might need mid price housing but if the market can support higher prices the city is loathe to tell anyone to "build something with a lower percentage markup!"


Low income housing does still happen but usually with a mix of public/private money and tax giveaways. As someone who lives near a lot of public housing that seems to generate a larger share of crime than the surrounding blocks (and is probably statistically born out), I have some internal conflict with the desire to assist the needy and whether or not low income housing is detrimental to the the larger city.


So yeah, you're right that there needs to be more affordable housing but good luck with that.

[billyerlife]

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That was fucking terrible and just stupid.

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Really? You didn't like the message? But you still fucking hate hipsters right?

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The message is stupid. I absolutely hate hipsters but thats not going to keep me from making money off them. I work for a developmental construction company, therefore I have no problem with places being built up like that. Idc who moves into them. It doesn't affect me and keeps my mortgage paid/food on the table.

"I'm making money off of it so I don't care what the impact is." Literally referencing the fact it doesn't affect you so it's irrelevant. The good news is the shit you dish is the shit you end up eating. Good luck asshole.

[Dwyck]

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I find it kind of odd how they used No Trend,

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dystopia would have worked too but now it's some supreme trend band to listen to

dont want to scare you but montreal skinhead cool guy spike lamy skated to this song like two weeks before this