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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2018, 03:57:43 PM »
Iím on Zoloft and Ativan. It probably saved my life but I canít fuck like a champ anymore. I can barely get a boner. I donít want to kill my self but Iíll go weeks without jerking off. Itís like you forget about sex altogether. Iím cool with it though. Sex is overrated.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2018, 04:07:30 PM »
that's funny woodsman, i didn't barely jerk of for like 2-3 yrs. something crazy like that and i mostly blamed being junkie but i also was taking atavans. those things killed my game, i'd ignore girls when i was skating. pussy was laying on the ground but i wouldn't pick it up.
never put it together.
fuck them shits [unless you're trying to sleep or get out a bad trip or whatever].
i'll mail out a care package of benzos/suboxins now and again but mostly fuck all that.
it's funny, if i don't like someone i'll think 'yeah, you're cheating if you're happy on ssri's' but if i respect a person i'm like 'ok, do what works for you'.
personally i'm against them in my own system [and the waste water system] for a few reasons. jordan peterson is a pussy. ubermensch w/ pills? fuck outta here.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2018, 04:41:22 PM »
I have a super heavy family history, Sniff. My brother Killed himself by hanging, my cousin blew his head off with a shotgun and then thereís all the peeps who tried but failed including my mom slashing her wrists. So I would say get on meds now if you are suicidal and have a history like that. Otherwise just eat your vitamins and workout in your parents basement. But for real if anyone out there is feeling like ending it, please please donít do it. It creates so much damage to everyone who loves you. And I know this sounds like cornball shit but people do love you. No matter how alone you feel, youíre just a person going through this difficult thing called life. Iím pretty sure we only get one so stick around and see what happens next. How will you know who wins SOTY or what Fred Gall is up to if you check out now?.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2018, 05:03:49 PM »
my family is a little more lowkey but we suicide too. my great aunt leapt from my 3rd floor porch while i was locked up in juvie. my schizo sister tried to do the same from the first floor railing and broke her femur.
i usedta die a couple, 3 X a yr but people always got me up w/ narcan.
like jim gagne on booze, i got depressed once for 20 yrs.
you're right about the damage. rusty about destroyed his parents. i wouldn't say he owed it to anyone to live hearing voices all the time but sometimes i feel like if he had any idea he would've stuck around for them.
i wasn't knocking you personally on atavans. i got em to be a bawtawd but then i wasn't into it anymore, didn't realize how dull i'd gotten. if they improve your life, run w/ it. that jordan peterson guy kinda rubs me hypocritical.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2018, 07:58:05 PM »
I just got on 20mg of prozac and .02mg of clonidine.  It's been a week and I feel fucked up. I know it's not the prozac because it hasn't been that long right? I emailed my doc and told him I wasn't feeling right, light headed, exhausted, I had a fucking panic attack yesterday and I've never had one. He said we can try something else but honestly I don't want it.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2018, 08:18:31 PM »
This thread is fucked.

It's full of honest people suffering and that's tragic. But the whole suicide shit is crazy.

I'm so sorry you guys had/have to deal with that

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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2018, 08:53:43 PM »
I just got on 20mg of prozac and .02mg of clonidine.  It's been a week and I feel fucked up. I know it's not the prozac because it hasn't been that long right? I emailed my doc and told him I wasn't feeling right, light headed, exhausted, I had a fucking panic attack yesterday and I've never had one. He said we can try something else but honestly I don't want it.
It can be the Prozac, most likely is. Ssri effect your brain the first time you take them, and every time you take one, its just the therapeutic action doesn't take effect until your receptor system is saturated with it. I dislike the ssri action, just from a drug standpoint, but whatever, I'm just some dude. Sounds like your doc might try a benzodiazepine, I would recommend trying one, but if it does work for you try not to up the dose.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2018, 10:30:03 PM »
Sorry for the long post but I have tons of experience with this and hopefully this might help someone:

First off, if you're going to go on meds just get a script for adderrall. It'll %100 solve the tiredness and the motivation problem. But honestly there's soooo much natural stuff that can help.

For the past 10 years I've tried EVERYTHING, even the most obscure shit out there. I actually just got back from a trip to south america where I spent 11 days doing native medicine. Ayahuasca, peyote, san pedro cactus, yopo, Alvarius toad (5-MeO-DMT), and Kambo frog.
Things like Kambo frog can get rid of depression and addictions. It literally changes your brain chemistry.

I've been on most SSRI's and could never tell if they were working so I always stopped after a few months. I didn't get any side effects when starting or stopping abruptly, I was on the max dose of Wellbutrin (Bupropion). It's the most stimulating SSRI but I stopped taking it cause it wasn't helping my anxiety. If you're gonna go down the prescription route I recommend bringing that up.

After there was nothing less for me to try I went to see a new doctor who put me on Zoloft which I agreed to take because it's one of the best SSRI's for anxiety and after struggling with benzos for years, I knew I had to go the SSRI route. I've been on it for 6 weeks and i'm doing much better. I only took it because I'd exhausted all other options and I can't take benzos for the rest of my life.

You should take Maca root for overall energy. You can get them in capsules for pretty cheap and definitely work. There's nootropics like phenylpiracetam and adrafinil, etc.

And finally, I know this sucks to hear but although whatever you take will help your energy levels, the real problem is being unmotivated. It's the hardest part because you really have to work hard to get out of that rut. You gotta be disciplined and force yourself to do shit you don't want to do like going to the gym, skating, whatever. If you put in a month of hard work i'm sure you'll get your groove back.


BTW, if you do take an SSRI you'll probably feel worse (more tired and unmotivated) at first. Also consider that it can worsen depression in some people.
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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2018, 10:53:02 PM »
Yeah, a lot of sad shit in here.

I fucking hate how you have to "complement" SSRIs.  And another thing, getting on that shit is pretty much a life long commitment unless you are in treatment. Pretty shitty deal.

Having said that, if you need to be on them, go ahead. I don't know shit.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2018, 02:02:17 PM »
I spoke to a buddy when I was off them who has similar experience to me with this and told him how hard I crashed after a few months off and he said that the problem is sometimes the drugs work so well you think you don't need them. I was convinced I was doing good and then boom I'm back in the hole.

I quit zoloft and zolpidem when I moved away for work this june as after a long time I was feeling great and full of energy. This lasted till two months ago when a big deadline came up. The side effects were FUCKED, I'm still here recovering. I don't wish them on anyone. I'm back on the meds now. I'm an idiot though because due to the stigma attached to depression/anxiety I tried to selfmedicate myself which was an horrible decision. 


And another thing, getting on that shit is pretty much a life long commitment unless you are in treatment. Pretty shitty deal.

That's the other main thought that scared me and made me try to deal with it on my own.
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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2018, 02:07:55 AM »
Yeah, suffering from anxiety/depression will leave you a couple of options. All of them are pretty shitty.

1) Go Kobra/Sniffy/Baw/Rents route and self-medicate. Terrible in the long run.

2) Dive into the cycle of on/off meds, side effects and switching back and forth. Terrible in the long run.

3) Therapy. God knows how long time and how much money this option is gonna require. Might work in the long run, although I've never seen it.

4) Ignore your troubles and get busy with things like career, marriage and divorce, possibly even shitty kids. Congratulations, bro. You are now broken, burned out and 35+, feel free to choose between 1-3.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2018, 02:45:20 AM »
not primarily an antidepressant per se (although it can be used as an add-on treatment for depression) but, does anyone on here have any experience with aripiprazole ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aripiprazole

my girl is on that shit, and has been for maybe six months now. we both have certain reservations regarding the drug industry so it took us a while to first decide she should actually get on the meds she was getting prescribed, then even longer to find a treatment that didn't completely wreck her in terms of side effects. aripiprazole / abilify is the best compromise we ended up finding, she's way more socially apt on that shit but in return, among other common side effects such as twitching etc. she has to take several naps a day and she's lost a lot of her positivity, confidence and overall drive in life. not sure whether that has to do with the illness or the meds. the purpose of the drug is to basically slow the progression of the schizophrenia down, and help the patient live a quieter (and longer) life, but sometimes I see her sink down a deep well of apathy and negativity when she used to be so hyper and that occasionally makes me question how much all of that is worth it to some degree. the reassuring thought is we both think she functions better on the meds, but every now and then I just get pissed at our social model trying to make everybody just that, 'functional', when some people just naturally aren't and maybe would feel more free without the external pressure.

also,

This thread is fucked.

It's full of honest people suffering and that's tragic. But the whole suicide shit is crazy.

I'm so sorry you guys had/have to deal with that
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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2018, 05:28:40 AM »
Yeah, suffering from anxiety/depression will leave you a couple of options. All of them are pretty shitty.

1) Go Kobra/Sniffy/Baw/Rents route and self-medicate. Terrible in the long run.

2) Dive into the cycle of on/off meds, side effects and switching back and forth. Terrible in the long run.

3) Therapy. God knows how long time and how much money this option is gonna require. Might work in the long run, although I've never seen it.

4) Ignore your troubles and get busy with things like career, marriage and divorce, possibly even shitty kids. Congratulations, bro. You are now broken, burned out and 35+, feel free to choose between 1-3.

Pretty much this..

I've battled with depression basically half of my life (I'm 28). Have tried some pharmaceuticals, self-medicated and have ignored my problems. But the best thing I did was to go to see a therapist. It gives you an outlet to speak your mind and get stuff of your chest. I've talked about stuff I haven't spoken even to my closest friends. It gives you tools how to battle when you are feeling the lowest. And another thing that I'll say is that food has a really really big part of your well being! Cut down all your slow fat and try to eat fresh fruits and veggies. Makes you feel light and energized!

For some people taking meds might be the only answer and they should stick to it but at least for me they just made me feel nothing and that was much more worse than feeling blue..

But it never is that easy as all of us know.. Today the sun is shining bright and life seems just about right, but deep down I know this won't last because in some time the clouds will come and make my mind rain.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2018, 07:22:26 AM »
I've been on and off medication since I was 15 of the antidepressent variety. I'm currently on fluvoxamine, which is used primarily for anxiety reduction, and has been successful in doing that...

but it was after 2 months of some very intense nausea and lethargy, and a failed effexor trial that had worse side effects. Now the medication still makes me nauseous daily but not as much, although I think my stomach has figured out a way to counter it - it's been two years on it, and if I forget to take a dose my stomach produces so much acid that it's woken me up choking on it.

I guess it's better on the meds, I don't have any intense periods of anxiety and I my depressive episodes are much shorter in length...but if I didn't need to take them to maintain a relatively normal job I probably would take them a lot less, or if I lived in a medicinal state I would just take advantage of that.

Talk therapy (and CBT) have helped, especially because I don't really talk to other people much, it was really helpful to gain an outsiders objective opinion. That shit is expensive and I can't really swing it anymore, but I'm glad I went when I did. 

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2018, 03:22:17 PM »
I've dealt with depressive issues for at least 10 years now (never diagnosed) and self medicate with natural methods: exercise, vitamin D from the sun, coffee, vitamins, smoking sativas. I experimented with microdosing 5-50ug LSD every fourth day. For me, it was almost as if it shut down the ability to feel any sort of sadness, negative, depressive, or suicidal thoughts. I am very introverted and it made all of my roommates easier to be around. I did a lot of research prior to the experiment and also used acid previously so I know what the experience of a standard dose is like. I stopped dosing 3 weeks ago as of now and can still feel the effects for the most part...
It's not a perfect solution but if you have the means, I would recommend it. :)

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #45 on: April 19, 2018, 03:41:46 PM »
I've been on and off medication since I was 15 of the antidepressent variety. I'm currently on fluvoxamine, which is used primarily for anxiety reduction, and has been successful in doing that...

but it was after 2 months of some very intense nausea and lethargy, and a failed effexor trial that had worse side effects. Now the medication still makes me nauseous daily but not as much, although I think my stomach has figured out a way to counter it - it's been two years on it, and if I forget to take a dose my stomach produces so much acid that it's woken me up choking on it.

I guess it's better on the meds, I don't have any intense periods of anxiety and I my depressive episodes are much shorter in length...but if I didn't need to take them to maintain a relatively normal job I probably would take them a lot less, or if I lived in a medicinal state I would just take advantage of that.

Talk therapy (and CBT) have helped, especially because I don't really talk to other people much, it was really helpful to gain an outsiders objective opinion. That shit is expensive and I can't really swing it anymore, but I'm glad I went when I did.

Cbt(cognitive behavioral therapy) should work for almost anyone. It's amazing. When it falters it's usually because you quit using it without realizing.

It is used on its own too. You don't need a professional to talk to you about it daily.

There is a really good book on it I read, I want to say it's called ""rewire"

ALOT of self help type books are really just cbt

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #46 on: April 19, 2018, 03:46:29 PM »
CBT is how i got rope burn on my dick. works for some people i guess but never again!

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« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2018, 11:47:09 PM »
Anyone have good experiences with antidepressants? I ain't even tryna feel better about myself - I just wanna stop being tired and sore all the time whether or not I do anything.
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« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2018, 03:05:30 AM »
Funny enough I tried every prescription med in this thread before, but was never depressed like heavy or anything. Basically weed and thinking too much + negative environment caused panic attacks when I was like 15. None of them shits did what they were supposed to do. Except benzos.

So called recreational drugs helped me, basically a tool to learn new behaviors, to where you can stop taking it and still have the learned behavior. Sometimes you learn bad behaviors with em tho.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2018, 05:03:10 AM »
First off: Fakie flips: They really improved for me when I put my "push down foot" all the way on the edge of the tail. Before that I had them in a kind of a pocket of the tail pn the side (like I would do my nollies) and they wouldn't be as consistent and not as high.

About the depression: I agree with most that has been written in this thread. I suffered from a pretty heavy depression after I quit my dissertation project two years ago. I felt completely exhausted and really restless and confused at the same time. I had panic attacks and stomach pains. This lasted for almost 6 months. At least I could still sleep and I had a girlfriend which provided somewhat of a solid base in my life. I started going to therapy once a week. The therapist is a psychoanalyst who is also open to behavioral techniques (in Germany most of the therapists now do a sort of cross-over thing where you talk about your emotions and your childhood and relationships, but they also try to help you master your day to day problems). I found it to be super helpful. It is like having a life couch who will help work with your emotional issues. It is however a longer process and not all the emotions and things you might discover in your life will be easy to deal with. After the six months I also did a day clinic, where you do group therapy, music therapy, physical therapy. It was sort of like going to work. You had a schedule of different things to do and you had to hang out with other patients during the day, but you got to go home at night and on the weekends. It was pretty rough to see how many good regular people deal with depression. The mix of the people reminded me a bit of skating. There were managers , kinder garden teachers, football hooligans, students...
I was prescribed SSRIs there and I did not experience any side effects. Actually I wouldn't even be able to say if it was the pills or the therapy that improved my health. Since then I have started a new career and worked as a school teacher. I fell back into the depression one year later, but then it only lasted a few weeks and I was able to work again after being sick for 3 weeks and getting back on SSRIs. I am still seeing the therapist once a week and not everything is perfect, but overall I have been much better. I still take a small dose of SSRIs. Since they do not have any side effects I don't really mind. I am very glad therapy in Germany is completely covered by medical insurance.

I have a big problem with people like Jordan Petersen, who himself admits that he is basicly suffering from a burnout depression, but still seems to urge people to be self disciplined, work harder and "get their shit together". Before I fell into my depression I had all my shit together and I was extremely self disciplined and very ambitious. That was actually a big part of my problem that I force myself to do shit which I don't need to or don't want to do and that I thought I had to be strong and master everything myself. That whole american Joe Roganesque philosophy of "conquer your inner bitch" does way more harm than it does good in my opinion. I mean who are these really lazy people who are lazy and don't do shit? In my circle of friends everyone is restless as hell and always feels they don't do enough. For many people doing nothing is way harder than "doing something". I had pushed myself hard for such a long time that I didn't even realize a part of me had checked out of my life years ago. I am still kind of trying to get it back and it is still really difficult.

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« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2018, 05:36:08 AM »
JP is a shithead whose ideas are either too convoluted to make any sense or just common sense stuff you already knew. People mistake his confidence for wisdom.
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« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2018, 07:52:54 AM »
trick tip for depression, always always always be busy doing something, dont sit around just thinking about shit. also eat better food.
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« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2018, 10:02:44 AM »
trick tip for depression, always always always be busy doing something, dont sit around just thinking about shit. also eat better food.
  ALOT of people go this route, I think. Rohan was posting some stuff like that.  I personally think that dudes' prolly onto some shit.

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« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2018, 10:35:30 AM »
I've dealt with depressive issues for at least 10 years now (never diagnosed) and self medicate with natural methods: exercise, vitamin D from the sun, coffee, vitamins, smoking sativas. I experimented with microdosing 5-50ug LSD every fourth day. For me, it was almost as if it shut down the ability to feel any sort of sadness, negative, depressive, or suicidal thoughts. I am very introverted and it made all of my roommates easier to be around. I did a lot of research prior to the experiment and also used acid previously so I know what the experience of a standard dose is like. I stopped dosing 3 weeks ago as of now and can still feel the effects for the most part...
It's not a perfect solution but if you have the means, I would recommend it. :)
How long did you microdose for?

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2018, 12:38:26 PM »
trick tip for depression, always always always be busy doing something, dont sit around just thinking about shit. also eat better food.

That falls in line with cbt(kinda)


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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2018, 05:49:21 PM »
i've been on the Lexapro for a while...it's helped a lot in my professional and personal life. like everyone has said in this thread it's different for everyone tho

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« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2018, 09:00:42 AM »

I have a big problem with people like Jordan Petersen, who himself admits that he is basicly suffering from a burnout depression, but still seems to urge people to be self disciplined, work harder and "get their shit together". Before I fell into my depression I had all my shit together and I was extremely self disciplined and very ambitious. That was actually a big part of my problem that I force myself to do shit which I don't need to or don't want to do and that I thought I had to be strong and master everything myself. That whole american Joe Roganesque philosophy of "conquer your inner bitch" does way more harm than it does good in my opinion. I mean who are these really lazy people who are lazy and don't do shit? In my circle of friends everyone is restless as hell and always feels they don't do enough. For many people doing nothing is way harder than "doing something". I had pushed myself hard for such a long time that I didn't even realize a part of me had checked out of my life years ago. I am still kind of trying to get it back and it is still really difficult.

Yes, I not a fan of his, but his methods are good for a lot of people in certain situation. When I got out of rehab, keeping my shit in order was the only way to build a foundation for normal funtioning. For a useless fucker, like me, those methods worked (until now).

Also, that inner bitch can be a number of things (as fas as I understood). Example: I should probably get in therapy but my inner bitch stops me. After all that time in institutions, my ass is allergic to that enviroment. I refuse and am scared of going back to all that.

But, yes, I understand your point. I sitting here now thinking I pissed this day away, doing nothing. What I did today:

Had a breakfast and hung out with this girl. Worked on my clean and jerk for 90 minutes (olympic weight lifting). Bought veggies. Prepped my lunches for next week for work; chicken, veggies, rice. Did laundary.

Pretty good for a saturday, but my fucking mind is racing and I cannot help feeling like I'm wasting my life away. The question is, what is the alternative, what is "doing something"?

I'm ranting.

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2018, 09:29:27 AM »

I have a big problem with people like Jordan Petersen, who himself admits that he is basicly suffering from a burnout depression, but still seems to urge people to be self disciplined, work harder and "get their shit together". Before I fell into my depression I had all my shit together and I was extremely self disciplined and very ambitious. That was actually a big part of my problem that I force myself to do shit which I don't need to or don't want to do and that I thought I had to be strong and master everything myself. That whole american Joe Roganesque philosophy of "conquer your inner bitch" does way more harm than it does good in my opinion. I mean who are these really lazy people who are lazy and don't do shit? In my circle of friends everyone is restless as hell and always feels they don't do enough. For many people doing nothing is way harder than "doing something". I had pushed myself hard for such a long time that I didn't even realize a part of me had checked out of my life years ago. I am still kind of trying to get it back and it is still really difficult.

Yes, I not a fan of his, but his methods are good for a lot of people in certain situation. When I got out of rehab, keeping my shit in order was the only way to build a foundation for normal funtioning. For a useless fucker, like me, those methods worked (until now).

Also, that inner bitch can be a number of things (as fas as I understood). Example: I should probably get in therapy but my inner bitch stops me. After all that time in institutions, my ass is allergic to that enviroment. I refuse and am scared of going back to all that.

But, yes, I understand your point. I sitting here now thinking I pissed this day away, doing nothing. What I did today:

Had a breakfast and hung out with this girl. Worked on my clean and jerk for 90 minutes (olympic weight lifting). Bought veggies. Prepped my lunches for next week for work; chicken, veggies, rice. Did laundary.

Pretty good for a saturday, but my fucking mind is racing and I cannot help feeling like I'm wasting my life away. The question is, what is the alternative, what is "doing something"?

I'm ranting.

I'm very much like you in this regard. I basically acheive my daily goals, don't feel it's enough and push through. Actually helps me sleep at night(exhausted)

But that's where you need to draw the line. Sometimes being constructive is relaxing. Taking time to chill, or maybe just a mellow hobby. Like today I have similar plans as your day, but tonight I'm unwinding with some woodwork which I'm excited about, and it obviously doesn't stress me out.

The mind is fucked. Do more, do more! Do less, do less!

Nah it's a blend of both. We aren't machines that can go and go and go(heck even machines break down when overworked)

Stoked for you working on your form! Too many people think they "know it all and do all lifts perfect". Fuck that, always room to improve!

I'd say your day is a huge success in my opinion!

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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2018, 09:53:34 AM »
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Re: trick tip for depression fatigue + antidepressants?
« Reply #59 on: April 21, 2018, 09:56:59 AM »
Thank you, sir!

Olympic weight lifting is so damn hard you can spend months with just the bar. There are sooo many things to adjust and learn.