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Danny Way: Yes or No
« on: May 15, 2018, 07:35:06 PM »
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“It reminds me of an incident in 1993 in which pros Danny Way and Josh Swindell were involved in a fight outside a bar in Los Angeles with a man who was allegedly propositioning Swindell. The Los Angeles Times reported that the victim’s face was “beaten beyond recognition”. Way was never convicted of any offence in connection with the incident, but Swindell got fifteen years for second degree murder.”

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2018, 07:39:38 PM »
This has been beat to death. Danny way is a cocky asshole but he never murdered anyone

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2018, 07:40:39 PM »
"But now it’s out. Josh Swindell – the skater in question – has spoken. What he has to say doesn’t make Danny look like a great guy…"

 

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2018, 08:03:03 PM »
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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2018, 08:55:13 PM »
This has been beat to death. Danny way is a cocky asshole but he never murdered anyone

jesus danny, i didnt know this thread was gay.

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2018, 10:37:13 PM »
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This has been beat to death. Danny way is a cocky asshole but he never murdered anyone
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jesus danny, i didnt know this thread was gay.

Yeah it's at least 75% gay

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 01:14:07 AM »
This has been beat to death. Danny way is a cocky asshole but he never murdered anyone

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2018, 04:47:53 AM »
This has been beat to death with a brick. Danny way is a cocky asshole but he never murdered anyone

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2018, 06:25:51 AM »
Fuck Danny way

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2018, 07:16:19 AM »
Danny Way scrapes his mannys and gets real mad if you notice

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2018, 07:19:40 AM »
"My loyalty to Danny was solid and has remained solid since day one. Unfortunately Danny's caught up in his own world and can't see beyond what benefits him. To me it's sad."

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The early nineties were rife with rumours around what you, Danny Way, Tommy Caudill and the rest of the XYZ crew were getting up to, as you all seemed to run ran pretty wild. The skate rumour mill and things hinted at in Big Brother gave the impression that you were throwing stuff through car windows, shooting at horses, fighting Markovich and some other pretty sketchy shit, was that an accurate representation of you guys at the time?
We were definitely wild kids or young adults. Those are actually the mellower events that took place; however, I don?t remember any horse getting shot? I don?t remember ever hurting animals. The Markovich story was all Danny. Kris hooked up with the chick Danny was going out with at the time (Karen) and supposedly talked shit about Danny. Earlier that day we had tracked down a guy that had broken into Danny?s car and stole his cell phone, wallet and stereo. When we confronted the guy he admitted to stealing Danny?s stuff, but said he sold it, didn?t have any money and that Danny was burnt. The guy basically said ?Fuck you! You aint getting shit.? Instead of Danny beating his ass he pee?d all over himself. I was actually embarrassed for Danny so I beat the dude up. When we got back to XYZ and told Tommy what happened he (Tommy) ridiculed Danny hard. He told him how disgusted he was with Danny and what a pussy he was. So, when the opportunity presented itself to redeem himself by fighting Kris he took it. It didn?t end well for Danny. As far as the other stuff, yeah, we were gnarly vandals. I don?t even remember half the shit we did. Between Danny, Tommy, Colin, Jordan Richter and myself we were always trying to one up each other. For me that crap grew to becoming physically violent. What used to be juvenile bullshit had grown to me becoming a full on criminal. It was a dark path I was on, for sure.
Clearly Steve Mateus and Danny Way were with you that night. Presumably you were all just out for a drink, was there something in particular that got you all fired up?
Yes. While I was in prison I had no access to the internet or gossip sites. I really was in the dark as to what people thought happened. When I paroled I began reading that shit and was floored. There?s rumors that Danny and I were driving around looking to kill somebody; that we got caught with a body in the trunk of a car; that we were shooting illegal aliens crossing the border. All of it beyond ridiculous! I definitely was drunk that night. In those days sobriety wasn?t in the cards. The bar was serving free beer and to a 20 year old drunk free beer is the greatest thing ever.
There are lots of rumours, theories and pure speculation as to what went down and who did what that night outside the bar in Azusa. Could you clear it all up once and for all and give us a detailed breakdown of the night - who exactly was there, what actually happened, why it happened and how drunk/high you guys were at the time?
Here?s the abbreviated version: A bunch of us showed up to this private party at a bar. The only notable skaters there were Ronnie Bertino and Danny. Danny told me that some guy (Keith Ogden) was coming on to him and laughing about it. Keith had obviously wandered into a hornets nest if what Danny said to me was true. So, I walked Keith out of the bar, told him it was a private party and to split or he?s going to get beat up. I didn?t threaten him personally. What?s tolerated now wasn?t in that era and a guy coming on to another guy in a bar that isn?t a gay bar was all bad. Awhile later he came back so I escorted him out again since there was no official security. By that time I was drunk and did threaten him. Still, nothing physical took place. An hour or so goes by and we hear that there?s a fight out front. When I walk out the door the first thing I see is Danny Way out cold, bleeding from the mouth. I asked out loud who hit Danny and Steve Mateus responded with ?That fag sucker punched Danny!? So, we get Danny back inside the bar and he?s clueless as to what happened. A bit later I find out that Keith?s behind the bar so I go out there with the intention of kicking his ass for sucker punching Danny. To me and everybody else in the bar, Keith appeared to be drunk. In reality he was suffering from a pre-existing brain injury. He actually left L.A. County Medical Center (General Hospital) the day before AMA (against Medical Advice). The hematoma on his brain was so large that the doctors were debating whether to drill a hole in his head to relieve the pressure on his brain. Anyway, I began walking Keith away from the bar with the intent to beat his ass. While I was walking away it became quite clear that the guy was in no position to fight. Then this guy Robert comes running up from behind, jumps in the air and kicks Keith in the back. Keith?s head slammed into my face from being kicked into me and even though it wasn?t his fault, all of my anger was directed towards him. I took out that anger on Keith in a physical manner. I kicked him about three to five times in the upper torso and face. Steve Mateus then began kicking him as well. I told Steve to stop, which he did. Keith was definitely fucked up and unconscious, but alive. None of us knew he had this pre-existing brain injury and was dying. We just felt he got KO?d. An hour later the cops show up and what does a skater do when he sees cops? He splits. I didn?t really think anything of it. The next morning I found out that Keith had died. I couldn?t believe it. Once I was arrested three weeks later a lot of stuff came to light. First up, Danny hadn?t gotten sucker punched by Keith. Danny was the one who sucker punched Keith and then some guy in turn punched Danny. Also, after the incident where I kicked Keith behind the bar, Steve Mateus went back out and stomped the life out of him with nobody around to see. Steve was wearing a size 8 Vans shoe that night and left that diamond sole pattern of a Vans shoe on Keith?s face and in blood around Keith?s final resting spot. Vans was my shoe sponsor from 1988 right up till the point of my arrest in 1993. I wore a size 10. There were no size 10 patterns anywhere in the vicinity. The whole thing was a mess. The legal proceedings that followed were a joke. When it comes to the law you get what you pay for and I was broke. My court appointed lawyer was awful. Not only that, but Steve Mateus made a deal with the prosecution for a light sentence (6 years where he only served 3) in exchange for his testimony (lies) against me. The judge railroaded me into a life sentence as well. He should have given the jury the option of manslaughter, which is what this case really was. Instead they had two options: 1st and 2nd degree murder, both carry life sentences. After a day of deliberations the jury came back and wanted to know if they could find me guilty of manslaughter instead of murder. He said ?No!? and they ended up finding me guilty of the lesser of the two charges, 2nd degree murder. I was then sentenced to 15 years to life and shipped off to prison. A month later that same judge (George Trammell) was brought up on some serious corruption charges. Google his name. That?s basically what went down. My actions were definitely criminal. I deserved to do some time; however, 19 years, 1 month and 8 days is a ridiculous amount of time for what I did.
Were the other guys arrested as well?
The only other person that was charged in this case was Steve Mateus. Like I mentioned beforehand, he made a deal with the prosecution. The guy who started it all (Robert) was never arrested or charged. Either was Danny. There was a point in the legal proceeding where Steve Mateus?s attorney started to blame Danny for what happened. I was ready to do an open plea for 30 years to life to pull Danny out of this. My loyalty to Danny was solid and has remained solid since day one. Unfortunately Danny?s caught up in his own world and can?t see beyond what benefits him. To me it?s sad.
Obviously it's pretty much worst case scenario in terms of the outcome, apart from leaving the house at all that night, what are your main regrets from what happened?
I laugh when I hear people say they have no regrets in life. Everybody has regrets. They might not be as big as mine, but they have regrets. My biggest regret was that I took part in taking a man?s life. Even though there were circumstances involved, the bottom line remains; I?m responsible for the loss of Keith. I should have been a man that stepped up and put a stop to what happened. Instead I charged forward. The whole reason I attacked Keith was out of a fucked up sense of loyalty to Danny. I felt like I had to redeem and protect a guy who I viewed as a brother. There is no main regret. There?s a whole bunch!
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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2018, 07:24:18 AM »

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2018, 08:54:16 AM »
More like Danny NO Way!

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2020, 12:09:54 PM »
https://youtu.be/p5T3Id4IWpU?t=2369

Stevo gives us a tid bit of evidence towards Danny Way's extreme homophobia.

Danny Way the brick murdering homophobe

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2020, 12:25:49 PM »
wildboyz was a hilarious show

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2020, 12:51:06 PM »
Ronnie Bertino on this:

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I forgot you were there that night.

I was.

But didn’t you leave before things got out of hand?

No, I was there the whole night. And I’ll give you my side of the story that I’ve always given.

One of Swindell’s friends was a local rapper and they were having a release party at this shithole bar in Azusa. This is back when I was still Mr. Partytime, drinking a ton and doing whatever.

So I’m actually inside the club when the shit goes down out front with Danny. I’m sure you’ve heard the story. He had a run-in with the guy, Danny punched him and then Danny got knocked out by a bouncer.

Like I said, we’re all inside the club. Next thing I know, Danny gets dragged inside to our table where my friends and I are sitting at. They just plop him down with us. He’s knocked out… and we’re just hammered. The club is giving us all free beer, even though I’m definitely not of age. But there I am, drinking pitchers of beer, making sure Danny is alright. We had no idea about whatever was going on behind the bar. Because secretly, some people had pulled dude out back and whoever all was involved, they did what they did. We’re just sitting there, drinking.

Next thing I know, I’m getting thrown up against the wall by a bunch of cops inside the bar. They just came in and rushed the place. And like I said, I’m hammered. But they have everyone up against the walls and figuring out who is who. They seemed to pinpoint everyone from San Diego because that’s who got taken in for questioning.

I went to jail overnight with Scott Weber, Danny… Swindell wasn’t there. He took off, as did a few other guys. But everyone else who was there that night from San Diego got taken in and we didn’t even do shit. 

I still remember calling my Mom from jail. It was terrible.

“What!?! You’re being questioned for what!?!”

(laughs) “Yeah, Mom! Somebody got murdered and I’m super drunk!”

“Ronnie, what the fuck!?! What have you gotten yourself into!?!”

“Mom, I swear to God that I had no part in this!”

Ultimately, the cops realized that, too. After an entire night of questioning from these gnarly detectives, they finally came to the understanding that not only did we have nothing to do with it, but we were fucking morons, too. Drunken idiots. 

That’s all I remember. Did I have any part in it? Hell no. Do I know who did what? No, but I do know it was more than just Josh involved. Because there’s no way of knowing who delivered the blow that actually killed the guy.

Just terrible, man.

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2020, 03:34:19 PM »
Big ol fuck no

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2020, 03:41:34 PM »
Danny Way scrapes his mannys and gets real mad if you notice
More like Manny Nay.

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2020, 04:43:49 PM »
No. Not even getting into his homophobia I just don’t care about his X Games style mega ramp stuff.

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2020, 05:26:51 PM »
Photosynthesis is probably his best part ever, one trick after the credits start rolling

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2020, 09:00:03 PM »
Danny Way in Questionable: Yes.

Danny Way since then: No.
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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2020, 09:07:49 PM »
Danny Way in Questionable: Yes.

Danny Way since then: No.

I could see Plan B 2.0 releasing a video called “Sus”

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2020, 09:11:12 PM »
Who?
there is the soul of Andrew Reynolds in every emerica shoe. you just have to pull on the right shoe lace and hold your ear into it. you can hear his voice saying "thank you cowboy! lets go for a ride!" just try it.

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2020, 09:27:41 PM »
6 years and counting for that 2014 part
For someone w.no signature ur awfully hostile, & that is why I do this

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2020, 03:06:04 AM »
more like Danny Gay

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2020, 04:35:16 AM »
https://youtu.be/p5T3Id4IWpU?t=2369

Stevo gives us a tid bit of evidence towards Danny Way's extreme homophobia.

Danny Way the brick murdering homophobe

Not just that but I’d heard he’d like to go to the border and shoot people trying to cross. Shoot/shoot at.

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2020, 04:41:54 AM »
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https://youtu.be/p5T3Id4IWpU?t=2369

Stevo gives us a tid bit of evidence towards Danny Way's extreme homophobia.

Danny Way the brick murdering homophobe
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Not just that but I’d heard he’d like to go to the border and shoot people trying to cross. Shoot/shoot at.

Pretty sure that’s just another rumor for the mill.

But yeah I’ve read all the documents and testimonies  etc... it seems pretty obvious that Danny Way is no murderer.

Now is he homophobic like most skaters from the early 80’s. Absolutely yes.  Has his views changed with age and the march of progress. I’m not sure.

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2020, 04:42:26 AM »
More like Fanny Pay.

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2020, 05:45:23 AM »
wildboyz was a hilarious show

fuck danny way

That show was great, too short lived.  Way better than Bam or Deerdick.  Even my wife liked it. She's a serious vegan and really liked how they treated animals. "Nobody's wilder than the Wild Boyz."

As far as DWay- I know about the whole brick/Swindell thing, not sure of the true story.  I don't think many people know.  He was the OG ATV, ripped surf, vert, and street, but does come off as a come off as a cocky SoCal asshole.   

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Re: Danny Way: Yes or No
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2020, 06:06:27 AM »
The judge that Swindell was talking about:

"George W. Trammell III is a former California Superior Court judge. In 2001, Trammell was sentenced to 27 months in prison for having given preferential treatment to a criminal defendant with whom he had sexual relations. Trammell had resigned from the bench in 1997, upon learning that he was under investigation"

"Jurors in Santa Ana Friday rejected Pifen Lo’s claim that she was coerced into having repeated sex with then-Los Angeles Superior Court Judge George W. Trammell III after he presided over a criminal case in which she and her husband were defendants.
Lo accused Trammell of sexual battery and intentional infliction of emotional distress, and sought to hold the state of California liable as Trammell’s employer. Orange Superior Court Judge David Brickner bifurcated the case, with the state’s liability being tried first."

Apparently, ye olde "give me some nookie and you go free" style.