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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2018, 04:37:54 PM »
This is going to be a really fun thread.



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« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2018, 04:45:58 PM »
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Shark Tits is a low-key racist, white-trash junky, but y'all love to gnar him.

SLAP is full of fucking kooks tbh.
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I think it’s just that there’s a little clique he’s in where they constantly gnar each other so you’d get that impression but it’s not true. Look also at the choad poster Mongoloid’s rep. He rarely posts anything funny or interesting but he and butthole sniffer and a few others are constantly jerking each other off.

As opposed to the circle jerk that happens when you other pals get each other hot and bothered over the latest hot sociopolitical topic of the week? You guy's just cant handle objective points of view, and feel the need to impose your will on anyone else who doesn't fit your standard. The funny thing is it's as hypocritical as the brand of righteousness you tend to preach.

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2018, 05:25:11 PM »
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Shark Tits is a low-key racist, white-trash junky, but y'all love to gnar him.

SLAP is full of fucking kooks tbh.
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I think it’s just that there’s a little clique he’s in where they constantly gnar each other so you’d get that impression but it’s not true. Look also at the choad poster Mongoloid’s rep. He rarely posts anything funny or interesting but he and butthole sniffer and a few others are constantly jerking each other off.
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As opposed to the circle jerk that happens when you other pals get each other hot and bothered over the latest hot sociopolitical topic of the week? You guy's just cant handle objective points of view, and feel the need to impose your will on anyone else who doesn't fit your standard. The funny thing is it's as hypocritical as the brand of righteousness you tend to preach.

right back at you. any hint of blowback and your fragile egos just cry out at those evil socialists and sjws. you want to be able to say whatever you want but not hear the retorts. did jason jessee get arrested? assaulted? or even harassed? are swastikas illegal now? no. people talked about him online and a couple of his sponsors made a business decision. but you guys are taking it personally because you relate to him in a way.

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2018, 05:30:02 PM »
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Shark Tits is a low-key racist, white-trash junky, but y'all love to gnar him.

SLAP is full of fucking kooks tbh.
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I think it’s just that there’s a little clique he’s in where they constantly gnar each other so you’d get that impression but it’s not true. Look also at the choad poster Mongoloid’s rep. He rarely posts anything funny or interesting but he and butthole sniffer and a few others are constantly jerking each other off.
[close]

As opposed to the circle jerk that happens when you other pals get each other hot and bothered over the latest hot sociopolitical topic of the week? You guy's just cant handle objective points of view, and feel the need to impose your will on anyone else who doesn't fit your standard. The funny thing is it's as hypocritical as the brand of righteousness you tend to preach.
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right back at you. any hint of blowback and your fragile egos just cry out at those evil socialists and sjws. you want to be able to say whatever you want but not hear the retorts. did jason jessee get arrested? assaulted? or even harassed? are swastikas illegal now? no. people talked about him online and a couple of his sponsors made a business decision. but you guys are taking it personally because you relate to him in a way.

But look at how your accusatory framing of me is personally. Only opinion I gave on the subject was a denouncement of racism ( "racism is a terrible thing" ), but because I didn't reach your approved level of outrage, and because I see fallacies in your approach I am somehow part of the problem. As if your statements, and judgements are immune from the same criticisms of those you preach against.
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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2018, 05:33:23 PM »
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Shark Tits is a low-key racist, white-trash junky, but y'all love to gnar him.

SLAP is full of fucking kooks tbh.
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I think it’s just that there’s a little clique he’s in where they constantly gnar each other so you’d get that impression but it’s not true. Look also at the choad poster Mongoloid’s rep. He rarely posts anything funny or interesting but he and butthole sniffer and a few others are constantly jerking each other off.
[close]

As opposed to the circle jerk that happens when you other pals get each other hot and bothered over the latest hot sociopolitical topic of the week? You guy's just cant handle objective points of view, and feel the need to impose your will on anyone else who doesn't fit your standard. The funny thing is it's as hypocritical as the brand of righteousness you tend to preach.
[close]

right back at you. any hint of blowback and your fragile egos just cry out at those evil socialists and sjws. you want to be able to say whatever you want but not hear the retorts. did jason jessee get arrested? assaulted? or even harassed? are swastikas illegal now? no. people talked about him online and a couple of his sponsors made a business decision. but you guys are taking it personally because you relate to him in a way.
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But look at how your accusatory your framing of me is personally. Only opinion I gave on the subject was a denouncement of racism ( "racism is a terrible thing" ), but because I didn't reach your approved level of outrage, and because I see fallacies in your approach I am somehow part of the problem. As if your statements, and judgements are immune from the same criticisms of those you preach against.

you’re projecting. I never said that. I don’t care about other people’s reactions to this. I’ve only posted my own thoughts on it. I know people all have their own opinions and I’m fine with that.

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2018, 05:35:47 PM »
i'm a street skating cheater w/ a hide full of napalm. jason jessee means less to me than the price of heroin or alcohol [1.5 yrs clean on the former and 7.5 yrs on the latter, thanks i know] i just think it's silly how poeple get all up in arms over a guy doing a teenage symbol of rebellion that you also admitted to.
granted he was running em post teenage yrs but still.
to quote giant pussy jello biafra 'the real nazis run your schools, they're coaches, businessmen and cops'.
not aging vert skaters.
to be fair, jason jessee seems like a terrible person according to leticia and that verbose consolidated pro who wrote about getting dropped of naked at city limits. ben something?
there's just a lot of more serious things we could be working on. and ya'll are a little too eager to taste blood in someone's downfall.
is it helping anyone? has anyone's quality of life improved?
first you wanted an apology. then it wasn't good enough. it's ugly to witness.
lil stevie usedta jump white kids and steal their boards, ya'll gonna demand justice from him too?
go get your pound of flesh. i think armed/strong armed robbery is worse than symbols but it was long ago, i don't hate stevie. just sayin.

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2018, 05:41:21 PM »
why do you keep insisting that the people upset about this arent upset about other things? you also seem to think unless people are working on every single possible bad thing they shouldnt be working on any.

you keep saying you dont care about jason jessee but you sure seem to be upset about. at least enough so to keep making troll posts about it.

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2018, 05:42:17 PM »
I personally never wanted him to get fired and I don’t get any joy out of it. My main thought was jason jessee is full of shit and should just admit he believes in this stuff. The Highway Murderers are obvious alt right extremists and his use of certain symbols and everything else was too much of a coincidence. I frankly don’t care about his sponsors because I will never buy Nike/Cons and I don’t like NHS wood. I do skate Indys and I don’t think I will stop till I get more concrete evidence they are evil racists. I’ve tried all the other major trucks and I don’t like them.
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« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2018, 05:45:31 PM »
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Shark Tits is a low-key racist, white-trash junky, but y'all love to gnar him.

SLAP is full of fucking kooks tbh.
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I think it’s just that there’s a little clique he’s in where they constantly gnar each other so you’d get that impression but it’s not true. Look also at the choad poster Mongoloid’s rep. He rarely posts anything funny or interesting but he and butthole sniffer and a few others are constantly jerking each other off.
[close]

As opposed to the circle jerk that happens when you other pals get each other hot and bothered over the latest hot sociopolitical topic of the week? You guy's just cant handle objective points of view, and feel the need to impose your will on anyone else who doesn't fit your standard. The funny thing is it's as hypocritical as the brand of righteousness you tend to preach.
[close]

right back at you. any hint of blowback and your fragile egos just cry out at those evil socialists and sjws. you want to be able to say whatever you want but not hear the retorts. did jason jessee get arrested? assaulted? or even harassed? are swastikas illegal now? no. people talked about him online and a couple of his sponsors made a business decision. but you guys are taking it personally because you relate to him in a way.
[close]

But look at how your accusatory your framing of me is personally. Only opinion I gave on the subject was a denouncement of racism ( "racism is a terrible thing" ), but because I didn't reach your approved level of outrage, and because I see fallacies in your approach I am somehow part of the problem. As if your statements, and judgements are immune from the same criticisms of those you preach against.
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you’re projecting. I never said that. I don’t care about other people’s reactions to this. I’ve only posted my own thoughts on it. I know people all have their own opinions and I’m fine with that.

You don't seem particularly fine with it in this thread.

I probably shouldn't have used you as an example, as you personally haven't addressed me prior to this thread. I was speaking more broadly on what I had seen in a quick browsing of that thread. I saw a lot of cutting down of those who didn't share in the same level of enthusiasm.

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2018, 05:49:45 PM »
nope nopes, i don't care about any west coast skaters except sweet lou barletta.
i don't like any ramp skaters. i did like consolidated once upon a time but more for karma, the paez brothers and alan peterson [10/10 did skate to a good song].
i keep making posts about people's outrage, don't strawman that i care about some lame ass skater i don't.
it's about the silliness and anger in attacking someone and i just want to bring up more targets for ya'll to bravely take down from the anonymity of slap.

boycott walmart, mcdonalds, the shoe companies or something big. taking on indy because they patterned their symbol from something w/ mild racist connotations? and ace for pointing that out?
there's real fights out there but ya'll ain't w/ the shits.


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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2018, 05:54:55 PM »
Uh...guys...could you not?
I believe Vice already fired me years ago.
And I can't really afford to lose my landscaping job.
Do you know how high the grass is in New Jersey???
(rim shot)

Fuck Nazis.
The old guard ruined Charlie Chaplin's amazing mustache forever
& the new kids on the block are trying to ruin my preferred hairstyle.
I can think of 6 million other reasons to say fuck those dudes.

Hitler sucked. His followers suck. These Nu-Nazis suck. We can all agree.
But I still think Hitler is a hilarious cartoon character.
When he gets all worked up and his hair goes all crazy...I piss myself.
Such a baffoon.
I come from a school where we make fun of and laugh at everything (beginning with the man in the mirror.).

The article you're citing is about one of the greatest creative minds I've personally come across.
Jim Riswold hates Nazis too.
But he also likes to get a rise out of people.
He actually has a photo on his site of a toy SS soldier on a skateboard.
That shit would really make some of you cry.
The only thing you should dislike about Jim is that he helped Nike become Nike with his Revolution, Bo Knows and Gotta Be The Shoes campaigns. I try not to judge people anymore so I look past his past mistakes.

If I've said/done/written something that offends anyone...
I'm wholeheartedly sorry that you don't get to laugh as much as I do.
Life is a joke. Laugh and enjoy it. You'll wake up dead before you know it.

If you're going to try and destroy my life could you at least spell my name right?
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« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2018, 05:59:53 PM »
sorry chris, i think everything should be fair game to laugh at too. if you want me to focus this thread i will. i was trying to lampoon slap's irrational zeal for uncovering nazis in their griptape but i kinda got worried that it might manifest real world bullshit for you.

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2018, 06:06:00 PM »
Uh...guys...could you not?
I believe Vice already fired me years ago.
And I can't really afford to lose my landscaping job.
Do you now how high the grass is in New Jersey???
(rim shot)

Fuck Nazis.
The old guard ruined Charlie Chaplin's amazing mustache forever
& the new kids on the block are trying to ruin my preferred hairstyle.
I can think of 6 million other reasons to say fuck those dudes.

Hitler sucked. His followers suck. These Nu-Nazis suck. We can all agree.
But I still think Hitler is a hilarious cartoon character.
When he gets all worked up and his hair goes all crazy...I piss myself.
Such a baffoon.
I come from a school where we make fun of and laugh at everything (beginning with the man in the mirror.).

The article you're citing is about one of the greatest creative minds I've personally come across.
Jim Riswold hates Nazis too.
But he also likes to get a rise out of people.
He actually has a photo on his site of a toy SS soldier on a skateboard.
That shit would really make some of you cry.
The only thing you should dislike about Jim is that he helped Nike become Nike with his Revolution, Bo Knows and Gotta Be The Shoes campaigns. I try not to judge people anymore so I look past his past mistakes.

If I've said/done/written something that offends anyone...
I'm wholeheartedly sorry that you don't get to laugh as much as I do.
Life is a joke. Laugh and enjoy it. You'll wake up dead before you know it.

If you're going to try and destroy my life could you at least spell my name right?
I before E except after C.

Ps. Big fan from way back. Especially GAY. (call me)

I’ve also heard it’s short, a war, a game, a miracle, and a bitch. 

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2018, 06:06:07 PM »
sorry chris, i think everything should be fair game to laugh at too. if you want me to focus this thread i will. i was trying to lampoon slap's irrational zeal for uncovering nazis in their griptape but i kinda got worried that it might manifest real world bullshit for you.

It's fine. It made me laugh.
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« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2018, 06:11:22 PM »
It’s threads like these that remind you slap is just industry heads and old bitter men. No one can take a fucking joke anymore. It’s either all okay or none of it is and no one wants to remember that when their cause of the week of race or sexuality is involved. Go fucking skate. And kook me more I’m trying to 150 by the end of the week.
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« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2018, 06:12:25 PM »
It’s threads like these that remind you slap is just industry heads and old bitter men. No one can take a fucking joke anymore. It’s either all okay or none of it is and no one wants to remember that when their cause of the week of race or sexuality is involved. Go fucking skate. And kook me more I’m trying to 150 by the end of the week.

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« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2018, 06:19:38 PM »
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sorry chris, i think everything should be fair game to laugh at too. if you want me to focus this thread i will. i was trying to lampoon slap's irrational zeal for uncovering nazis in their griptape but i kinda got worried that it might manifest real world bullshit for you.
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It's fine. It made me laugh.
Truth is, anyone who knows me knows there is only one race I hate...

https://vimeo.com/256568778

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« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2018, 07:50:24 PM »
We wanted peace. So they created punishment.

Ooof that's fire


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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2018, 08:06:37 PM »
I'm ready to die, now.

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« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2018, 08:13:34 PM »
You know, I think this shit sucks, not Jason jessee, but how the companies treated this. They're gonna back their boy for decades then drop him when the heat got too hot? Bitches. That's not how skateboarders should act.

Really all comes down people wanting to impose their way of thinking onto others. Like that guy named Hitler wanted to.

I don't think snitching on the internet exists though, unless you use it to submit a tip to them bitchass police. Its just its monitored and can be seen. Its a weird thing.

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2018, 08:19:26 PM »
You know, I think this shit sucks, not Jason jessee, but how the companies treated this. They're gonna back their boy for decades then drop him when the heat got too hot? Bitches. That's not how skateboarders should act.

Really all comes down people wanting to impose their way of thinking onto others. Like that guy named Hitler wanted to.

I don't think snitching on the internet exists though, unless you use it to submit a tip to them bitchass police. Its just its monitored and can be seen. Its a weird thing.

funny that a troll account is talking about bitches and snitches. post from your regular account with the same shit, fuccboi.

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« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2018, 08:52:04 PM »
I'm just not willing to sacrifice my +1021 rep to do that chuck.

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« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2018, 08:54:52 PM »
I'm just not willing to sacrifice my +1021 rep to do that chuck.

 Go to rehab dude.
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« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2018, 09:26:56 PM »
Nazi sympathizers can eat my dick, don't want to get fired don't be a fuckin Nazi
Edit:was speaking on Jessseeee not CN
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« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2018, 12:03:28 AM »
Shark Tits is a low-key racist, white-trash junky, but y'all love to gnar him.

SLAP is full of fucking kooks tbh
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All of this 100%...LMAO  ;D

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« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2018, 12:57:47 AM »
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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2018, 06:36:57 AM »
another one of these eh? im pretty sure you know jessee's repeated actions are more extreme and alienating to others than a couple of nieratko's jokes. what is it youre looking to accomplish with these threads? i dont think jessee is actually out on his ass sponsor wise, im sure nhs will quickly re-back him if they actually ever stopped doing so in the first place. i dont think youre trying to justify repping nazi shit either, so is it a knee jerk reaction to what you feel is people being overly sensitive?
 do you think its more important that jason jessee gets a pass for saying/wearing racist shit than it is for a huge number of people to feel welcomed and comfortable within the skate community instead of having to worry about being harassed or worse for the way they were born? i know hes just one dude, but had his sponsors stuck by him(and come to think of it, the way most people in the industry responded) it would send the message that that type of hate is tolerated within the industry. i think that would cause a lot of people to feel disconnected and care less about it(industry, hopefully not the act of skating). imagine being a non-white kid hoping to go pro and then finding out the people who run everything are largely fine with others in the industry repping hate against you, itd be disheartening at the very least. i know theres lots of shitty things about it, but racism shouldnt be one.
i think some are arguing that people are overreacting to the symbol, but repping that imagery implies you're against many people's basic right to exist and that can feel very threatening to some(obviously). why do you get to decide how they should react? that remains the same to non-white/non-cis people as well. just because youre not bothered, doesnt mean everyone else should feel the same. lastly if you arent of the racist mentality(as jason says he isnt), why would you want to appear as someone who is? if he wanted to be shocking he could just wear a few more hats at a time or let his peener hang out on a couple of those fs airs.
 

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« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2018, 06:49:21 AM »
another one of these eh? im pretty sure you know jessee's repeated actions are more extreme and alienating to others than a couple of nieratko's jokes. what is it youre looking to accomplish with these threads? i dont think jessee is actually out on his ass sponsor wise, im sure nhs will quickly re-back him if they actually ever stopped doing so in the first place. i dont think youre trying to justify repping nazi shit either, so is it a knee jerk reaction to what you feel is people being overly sensitive?
 do you think its more important that jason jessee gets a pass for saying/wearing racist shit than it is for a huge number of people to feel welcomed and comfortable within the skate community instead of having to worry about being harassed or worse for the way they were born? i know hes just one dude, but had his sponsors stuck by him(and come to think of it, the way most people in the industry responded) it would send the message that that type of hate is tolerated within the industry. i think that would cause a lot of people to feel disconnected and care less about it(industry, hopefully not the act of skating). imagine being a non-white kid hoping to go pro and then finding out the people who run everything are largely fine with others in the industry repping hate against you, itd be disheartening at the very least. i know theres lots of shitty things about it, but racism shouldnt be one.
i think some are arguing that people are overreacting to the symbol, but repping that imagery implies you're against many people's basic right to exist and that can feel very threatening to some(obviously). why do you get to decide how they should react? that remains the same to non-white/non-cis people as well. just because youre not bothered, doesnt mean everyone else should feel the same. lastly if you arent of the racist mentality(as jason says he isnt), why would you want to appear as someone who is? if he wanted to be shocking he could just wear a few more hats at a time or let his peener hang out on a couple of those fs airs.
i guess i don't see it as alienating as ya'll do. i might be unsympathetic to what it's like to be a minority skater but i feel like people are being overly sensitive. at any rate, i like to have a dialogue to what the actual line is not just a cavalcade of 'fuck jason jessee'. hitler wasn't the killer, it was his followers you had to watch out for [and that goes for every asshole who signs up for a military that invades and doesn't just defend it's borders].
some people drew the line that if you're not against 'white supremacy' then you're for it. ok, accepting that premise, i was throwing chris in front of the bus. i'm sure i can find a ton more.
i'm taking the piss but also, i'd be into real conversations.
how can people say 'poor whites are voting against their own self interest, so stupid' yet also believe they're a massive white conspiracy. like if there was, how'd it miss so many? why'd they fight each other to liberate the slaves?
if i have any agenda, it would be that we're all pieces of shit at the bottom but if we're blaming each other, getting triggered by minutia we're not looking up.
as someone said, it should be all of us vs the upper class.
it's bigger than hip hop skating.

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2018, 07:18:08 AM »
i guess the main difference is some view at minutiae and others dont. i know what youre saying, its not productive to all pile on and attack the guy, but i think it should be brought to his attention that a lot of people arent supportive of his actions and he should reconsider how he acts going forward. i know it didnt exactly go that way though.
i think a lot of people were referring to the companies that back him when arguing "if youre not against it, youre for it" logic. as in if those companies take a passive approach theyre continuing to support a (wannabe, i guess)nazi.
when you make threads like this and the other(s?) you started, it doesnt come across like you wanna have a real conversation. youre just making fun of anyone who disagrees with you. also you can be against the ultra rich and nazi's at the same time. 

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Re: chris neiratko uncovers white guy doing hitler jokes for vice
« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2018, 07:27:06 AM »
i guess the main difference is some view at minutiae and others dont. i know what youre saying, its not productive to all pile on and attack the guy, but i think it should be brought to his attention that a lot of people arent supportive of his actions and he should reconsider how he acts going forward. i know it didnt exactly go that way though.
i think a lot of people were referring to the companies that back him when arguing "if youre not against it, youre for it" logic. as in if those companies take a passive approach theyre continuing to support a (wannabe, i guess)nazi.
when you make threads like this and the other(s?) you started, it doesnt come across like you wanna have a real conversation. youre just making fun of anyone who disagrees with you. also you can be against the ultra rich and nazi's at the same time.
i reckon you can but i don't think most people are. i think it's jumping on a trendy topic. nobody gives a shit who makes their shoes or other actual oppressions but it's hip to slag a guy for symbols. or for being friends w/ him.
whole thing reminds me of fixing the windshield wipers on a car w/ a busted windshield.
yeah, i spose i was more making fun than going for a good dialogue but it's just a circuitous route. when people have crowd psychology they don't wanna talk reasonably.
it's not so much opinions i disagree w/ [i disagree w/ racism too] just when everyone's in lockstep.