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Title: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: ZachMoldof on June 06, 2018, 11:11:56 PM
They've got to be one of the most profitable companies in skate. And half the company is owned by Carlyle Group, which is entirely antithetical to what skateboarding stands for. But it doesn't seem like they get any criticism at all. I feel like lots of skaters have learned to be super-critical of Nike, but it doesn't seem like there is a mass consensus about Supreme being bad for skate.

I can't recall ever hearing about Supreme doing stuff for skaters–besides sponsoring riders. No contests, no dontations, no skateparks, nothing at all that I can recall. Am I missing pieces of the picture, or is this an accurate take?
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on June 06, 2018, 11:14:24 PM
Its not the same as nike because they started as a skate shop, not a running shoe shop.
That said, Supreme is beyond corny in its current form.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: High Hair on June 06, 2018, 11:38:32 PM
I don't care if Carlyle are on some real evil shit I JUST WANNA KILL ALL THESE FUCKING GOD DAMN FUCKING NAZIS AND I WONT STOP TIL THEY'RE ALL DED!!!FUCK NAZIS!!!SMASH THE FASH!!!
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: IHOP on June 06, 2018, 11:58:06 PM
how is supreme "bad for skate" when they sell their overpriced gear to 95% non skaters, employ skateboarders in stores and behind the scenes, a full skate team, and make skate videos that are pretty classic.  Is a company only beneficial to the culture of skateboarding if they build a skatepark?

I dont own any of it, they have made a ton of questionable moves, but I dont get why people get so worked up over a brand being successful in their own lane.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: poser666 on June 07, 2018, 12:14:42 AM
i know supreme is limited and that sells good but how the hell did they manage to get the fruitcakes wanting it so bad.....the quality on the box logo hoods really are the best tho they are thick and heavy as hell and will last a lifetime. not worth resale tho...but i can see why they cost almost a bill more than typical skate hoodies..
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: disintegration on June 07, 2018, 01:47:20 AM
Have bowls inside shops. Don't let people skate it. Says it all really.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Mcidraque on June 07, 2018, 02:01:18 AM
Its not the same as nike because they started as a skate shop, not a running shoe shop.
That said, Supreme is beyond corny in its current form.
^^that plus if they keep coming up with video and with Strobeck on the payroll, they're doing something for the culture imo
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Prawn Cocktail on June 07, 2018, 02:31:29 AM
i know supreme is limited and that sells good but how the hell did they manage to get the fruitcakes wanting it so bad.....the quality on the box logo hoods really are the best tho they are thick and heavy as hell and will last a lifetime. not worth resale tho...but i can see why they cost almost a bill more than typical skate hoodies..

They're made by reigning champ.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Prawn Cocktail on June 07, 2018, 02:33:38 AM
They actually do cop a load of criticism.

And they're a skate brand as much as Ralph Lauren is a saddle maker. They do have authenticity but its wearing thin. 20 year curse and all that.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: BobbyPshew on June 07, 2018, 03:00:44 AM
This just screams skateboarding...


Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: BALARGUE on June 07, 2018, 03:45:28 AM
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Its not the same as nike because they started as a skate shop, not a running shoe shop.
That said, Supreme is beyond corny in its current form.
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^^that plus if they keep coming up with video and with Strobeck on the payroll, they're doing something for the culture imo

it's not enough "giving back" at all considering the amount of money they're sitting on...
Palace is way more respectable in that sense and it says a lot
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on June 07, 2018, 04:10:55 AM
Do I own SUPREME?
Yes, a lot of it too.
Almost all old stuff though.
The boxlogo hoodies are indeed pretty good quality, NOWHERE near worth resell prices.
But to be fair, their stuff isn't that expensive if you can buy retail.

The aftermarket is INSANE, and I agree that in the last few years (2012 and onwards) it became really really wack.

But with the TON of money they're sitting on it would be cool to see if they gave back to skaters/kids that come from a 'less privileged' background... They use that image to SELL after all right? The grungy/grimey NY look?

Well I truly wish they would start some kind of charity to help the kids that come from those neighborhoods, that maybe skate and barely have enough money to buy a pair of walmart jeans...
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on June 07, 2018, 04:31:44 AM
Even though Fat Bill is a douche, they did give us “cherry” and help jump start one of my current favs Tyshawn carreer or at least gave him more exposure with that overhyped video.

The clothing itself can be good quality I guess, the t-shirts are as top quality as those thick basic thrasher shirts though.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: tkp on June 07, 2018, 04:44:16 AM
All I know about Supreme is I like their videos, they are supposedly opening up a store in SF, and people use bots to be the first to buy their online releases which they then go on to resell.

I've never understood the whole stand in line to buy clothing / gear based off a logo or design, then again flipping shoes to those people standing in like for 5x their price helped me fund a few skate trips back in the day.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Bhaktih on June 07, 2018, 04:48:08 AM
Do I own SUPREME?
Yes, a lot of it too.
Almost all old stuff though.
The boxlogo hoodies are indeed pretty good quality, NOWHERE near worth resell prices.
But to be fair, their stuff isn't that expensive if you can buy retail.

The aftermarket is INSANE, and I agree that in the last few years (2012 and onwards) it became really really wack.

But with the TON of money they're sitting on it would be cool to see if they gave back to skaters/kids that come from a 'less privileged' background... They use that image to SELL after all right? The grungy/grimey NY look?

Well I truly wish they would start some kind of charity to help the kids that come from those neighborhoods, that maybe skate and barely have enough money to buy a pair of walmart jeans...

They had those Kate Moss shirts and then they had the Grosso shirt with AH collab. It used to be what you're talking about, but they sell the most easily digestable parts of skateboarding back to people. Skateboarding is a part of pop culture now.

Like the Three 6 shirt. Anytime I see/hear them I think of Baker videos, but most other people think of Stay Fly I'd imagine. My understanding was they helped with that 12th & A park when it was still a thing. But yeah, the contributions to the culture and actual skateboarders through a paycheck is nice, but it seems unbalanced. I've seen Jeff Pang working there once.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Mcidraque on June 07, 2018, 05:09:29 AM
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Its not the same as nike because they started as a skate shop, not a running shoe shop.
That said, Supreme is beyond corny in its current form.
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^^that plus if they keep coming up with video and with Strobeck on the payroll, they're doing something for the culture imo
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it's not enough "giving back" at all considering the amount of money they're sitting on...
Palace is way more respectable in that sense and it says a lot
no doubt the british are ginvig back way more, but hey, they could be just keeping atention to the hypebeast pple. Said so, the only supreme thing i've bought since 2002 (first time i went to new york and got myself a camper hat) was cherry dvd. Never been a fan of the cool cat vibe they've seemed to embrace over the years
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: feedmeseymour on June 07, 2018, 05:33:47 AM
the kids who skate for supreme are all very good, most of the clothing sucks minus a drop or two (akira).

the fact that they dont let randoms skate that bowl is crazy, orchard in boston lets people skate their birds nest bowl no problem. id rather give them my money than supreme
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: SneakySecrets on June 07, 2018, 05:41:36 AM
I’ve always thought that I wasn’t cool enough to wear anything from Supreme.  Guess the tables have Supremely turned.

Hopefully the Van Heusen young men’s collection will get hot.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: n0torious on June 07, 2018, 05:57:48 AM
James Jebbia brought a lot of insight to Supreme via his involvement with Union. The branding and retail incorporated/ripped off strategic choices and aesthetics from luxury goods and fine art. To have your core product, the box logo tee, crib from an artist (Barbara Krueger) concerned with the dehumanizing aspects of capitalism points to a savvy, diabolical outlook, as do all the collaborations. You see Joy Division Unknown Pleasures tees everywhere, but only Supreme licensed the art from Peter Saville.

They've always played with exclusivity as a calling card, so the rude employees, limited drops, and long lines are strategic. Supreme wants to make you feel like an outsider and desire to be a part of their thing, although you most certainly never will. But you can wear the shirt: manipulation through class anxiety.

The recent videos and skate team really bought them a lot more time. They injected a lot of energy. And if they diversify, they could last longer. Look at Polo/RRL - a brand can grow with its customers.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: GinosGroceries on June 07, 2018, 06:53:41 AM
Skateboarding isn't entitled to any of Supreme's money. Supreme could be deemed uncool in an instant by the masses so they're probably doing the smart thing and saving the money. Sure, they probably could afford to spread some cash here and there but like Busenitz said "you can't retire on street cred."

Can you imagine how many randoms would show up if Supreme let them skate the bowl? You'd probably get first timer hypebeasts trying to skate the flat lol.
A lot of people who haven't purchased anything Supreme in their life would show up too. They're not entitled to ride the bowl of a private company. Maybe they could let people who buy stuff skate the bowl though



Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: shark tits on June 07, 2018, 07:00:42 AM
ask not what supreme is doing for skateboarding, ask what you can do for skateboarding.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: itsyourdad on June 07, 2018, 07:25:44 AM
don’t reckon there will ever be another industry that asks companies to “give back” to the culture (whatever the fuck that means) than skateboarding.

Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: cosmicgypsies on June 07, 2018, 07:31:31 AM
i bought a supreme 5 panel skated in it for months and sold it for more than i paid

thanks supreme
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: nosneb on June 07, 2018, 08:04:07 AM
You have to wait in line to just go inside, sometimes RSVPto shop! So if they opened up the bowl to the public. Line would be around the block every day lol
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: SneakySecrets on June 07, 2018, 08:38:42 AM
I remember there was a Rob Pluhowski interview where he said they were all a bunch of dicks. 
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: casper on June 07, 2018, 08:45:40 AM
I like supreme. My first hand experience with them is they are nice and take care of skateboarders.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: jacktharipper on June 07, 2018, 09:06:46 AM
Was just at the Brooklyn location recently. I didn’t know people weren’t allowed to skate the bowl and I was super bummed to learn it’s off limits when I got there. To be fair an employee did bring me up there and let me see it, looks like a blast to skate.

At least Supreme has roots in skateboariding, collaborates with respected skateboard companies, supports some very good skateboarders, and continues to sell boards and shoes.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: cosmicgypsies on June 07, 2018, 09:10:39 AM
why the fuck they got a bowl but people arent allowed to skate it? pros/team only? how tf feedback ts up there rinsing that same feeble fakie clip everytime tranny comes up on insta
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: frontsideoverkrook on June 07, 2018, 09:15:52 AM
supreme ny is a very warm and welcoming skate shop. whenever i need a bolt or something they let me walk behind the counter and get one for free. 10/10 great group a guys

hehe  ;D

Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: artskool on June 07, 2018, 09:33:48 AM
I thought Supreme was lame the first time I walked in there in the 90's, and it's so very much worse now. People are bummed on Vans corporate overlords, but are cool with these guys?
https://www.highsnobiety.com/2017/10/10/the-carlyle-group-supreme/
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on June 07, 2018, 10:03:19 AM
No
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Hmmmm Nice Bike on June 07, 2018, 10:16:27 AM
I thought Supreme was lame the first time I walked in there in the 90's, and it's so very much worse now. People are bummed on Vans corporate overlords, but are cool with these guys?
https://www.highsnobiety.com/2017/10/10/the-carlyle-group-supreme/

Supreme did 9/11

(http://i.imgur.com/WQC4qhN.gif)
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: MexicanSpaniard on June 07, 2018, 10:24:21 AM
supreme really isn't a thing here, we've got way too many local companies going on to give a shit, except for these 2 stoned nerds I know, they love overpaying for their gear
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: ChuckRamone on June 07, 2018, 10:28:18 AM
best not to develop any kind of interdependent relationship with a company. skating should remain diy and independent to maintain the balance of power.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: se7en3two on June 07, 2018, 10:31:57 AM
The craziest part to me, isn't really that they avoid giving back...

It's that the majority of actual skaters seem to think they're lame. Yet they find a way to still associate themselves with legends like Dylan, Gonz, Koston, Dill, etc.

I mean I guess as far as paychecks/free gear goes, I'd rather be linked to Supreme before Monster/Redbull.

Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Peter Zagreus on June 07, 2018, 10:38:09 AM
The craziest part to me, isn't really that they avoid giving back...

It's that the majority of actual skaters seem to think they're lame. Yet they find a way to still associate themselves with legends like Dylan, Gonz, Koston, Dill, etc.

I mean I guess as far as paychecks/free gear goes, I'd rather be linked to Supreme before Monster/Redbull.

I won't speak on Monster, but I bet a Redbull check arrives right on time. If Redbull would sponsor me for anything--anything--I would sign on the dotted, fucking line.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: concerned_parent on June 07, 2018, 10:40:36 AM
supreme is sick because i bought into it heavy for a year or two wore all of it, fell into bodies of water wearing it, spilled peanut butter and jelly on it, and then sold it all to idiots on ebay for profit who would flip the fuck out when you didn't supply them a tracking number 6.8 seconds after they clicked "buy it now."

so yeah, they aight in my book.

Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: SodaJerk on June 07, 2018, 10:48:56 AM
I couldn't give a fuck about them but I find it interesting that the same people that are vocal about disliking them expect them to allow people to skate their bowl.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Mcfctid on June 07, 2018, 10:58:20 AM
Listen to Tim O'Connors podcast with strobeck , his answer to why supreme employees are douchebags is simply  "they gotta deal with people man" , il give my money to zumiez before I give to supreme
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: GAY on June 07, 2018, 11:38:54 AM
I miss the days when people referred to them as 'preme. That was hot.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: redcurb12 on June 07, 2018, 11:41:46 AM
no one i know gives a fuck bout supreme
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: IHOP on June 07, 2018, 12:54:40 PM
yea what? why should a bowl thats in their store be open to the public all the time.  imagine you gotta work a retail job at the busiest hour all day long, and then hear fools skating the entire time.

I honestly think supreme gives back to the culture of skateboarding more than most brands right now.  Cherry had a huge influence on the youth and so many filmers are ripping off bill, that dylan section alone is such a perfect part.  A video of tyshawn and crew skating sf does a lot more for the sterile culture of skateboarding right now, than that volcom video that just came out a few days ago.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: CHONGO on June 07, 2018, 12:57:17 PM
supreme is pretty kook'd. The "riders" are alright though,
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: whatthefuuu on June 07, 2018, 01:15:25 PM
I remember there was a Rob Pluhowski interview where he said they were all a bunch of dicks.

Those dudes have been dicks since day one.

https://hooktube.com/WU-8c0leii0?t=24m47s

The only good thing about the clothes is that they help to instantly identify a poser.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: shark tits on June 07, 2018, 01:26:16 PM
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I remember there was a Rob Pluhowski interview where he said they were all a bunch of dicks.
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Those dudes have been dicks since day one.

https://hooktube.com/WU-8c0leii0?t=24m47s

The only good thing about the clothes is that they help to instantly identify a poser.
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pffttt hahahah ive been wearing supreme since like 04' and been skating longer. call me a poser to my face for wearing supreme and i will absolutely fold you. no cap.
"fuck supreme! bangin on my chest"
*knocks your hat of
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on June 07, 2018, 01:33:58 PM
Lol I skated the bowl in LA and still hate them. Their shit is just corny, not evil or mean.
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Post by: Ghost Face Nigga on June 07, 2018, 01:38:43 PM
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I remember there was a Rob Pluhowski interview where he said they were all a bunch of dicks.
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Those dudes have been dicks since day one.

https://hooktube.com/WU-8c0leii0?t=24m47s

The only good thing about the clothes is that they help to instantly identify a poser.
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pffttt hahahah ive been wearing supreme since like 04' and been skating longer. call me a poser to my face for wearing supreme and i will absolutely fold you. no cap.
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"fuck supreme! bangin on my chest"
*knocks your hat of


hahahahah holy shit i forgot about that dude. ok ok ok no cap that dude could call me a poser, thats fine. that man is doing the lords works!!!
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: DCLOVE on June 07, 2018, 01:39:06 PM
I’m like 95% sure they are just a social experiment to see what people will pay for a logo at this point.  I delivered food to the LA store a few years back and they were super nice and tipped well so cool in my book.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: GAY on June 07, 2018, 01:59:27 PM
I’m like 95% sure they are just a social experiment to see what people will pay for a logo at this point.  I delivered food to the LA store a few years back and they were super nice and tipped well so cool in my book.

I have to say, having worked may years of my life for tips, that this speaks volumes.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: wikileaks on June 07, 2018, 02:18:47 PM
They've got to be one of the most profitable companies in skate. And half the company is owned by Carlyle Group, which is entirely antithetical to what skateboarding stands for. But it doesn't seem like they get any criticism at all. I feel like lots of skaters have learned to be super-critical of Nike, but it doesn't seem like there is a mass consensus about Supreme being bad for skate.

I can't recall ever hearing about Supreme doing stuff for skaters–besides sponsoring riders. No contests, no dontations, no skateparks, nothing at all that I can recall. Am I missing pieces of the picture, or is this an accurate take?

what about DVS being owned by SBG. Huf and Lakai being owned by Altamont Capital. Supra being owned by K-Swiss. Vans being owned by VF. converse being owned by Nike. I could go on and on. Point is they started as a skateshop. they employ countless skaters and allow many of them to have careers. do you think half of todays pro skaters would still be pro skaters if there was no corporate support? no they'd have to get a real job and support their family. you may hate it but most of if not all of the skaters you love have been able to have a long successful career party because of corporate sponsors at one point of their career or another.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Doroteo Arango on June 20, 2018, 09:15:01 PM
they pay top dollar to skateboarders to not try hard and look cool.  I guess that is supporting skateboarding or atleast showing it to mainstream hipster culture which maybe introduces them to the real thing. maybe or nah
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: bucketoftruth on June 21, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
If you expect any skate companies to do more than give you shit to buy, you are wrong and dumb. Just become the billboard you want to be and wear the cool kid costume and shut the fuck up, or not, nobody cares.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Peter Zagreus on June 21, 2018, 03:05:06 PM
If you expect any skate companies to do more than give you shit to buy, you are wrong and dumb. Just become the billboard you want to be and wear the cool kid costume and shut the fuck up, or not, nobody cares.

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Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Sold Out on June 21, 2018, 04:22:46 PM
If you expect any skate companies to do more than give you shit to buy, you are wrong and dumb. Just become the billboard you want to be and wear the cool kid costume and shut the fuck up, or not, nobody cares.

Not true at all. There's lots of companies that give back lots to skating. Vans & DLXSF both come to mind.

Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Chavo on June 21, 2018, 05:41:19 PM
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If you expect any skate companies to do more than give you shit to buy, you are wrong and dumb. Just become the billboard you want to be and wear the cool kid costume and shut the fuck up, or not, nobody cares.
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Not true at all. There's lots of companies that give back lots to skating. Vans & DLXSF both come to mind.

Sole Tech financed The Lake Forest Skatepark and donated another $1 million to keep it free. And although this is not necessarily giving back to skateboarding, they have donated thousands of pairs of shoes to homeless and needy local families. I know that Zero and DLX are big supporters (i.e., give money and product) to Skateistan. Many individual skaters and company owners, including Tony Hawk (not to mention the Tony Hawk Foundation), Jamie Thomas, PRod,  have also donated their time and money. Real Skateboards also does the Actions Realized thing. There are many others.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: j....soy..... on June 21, 2018, 05:44:47 PM
Do skaters like supreme more than supreme likes skaters?  Isn't the reason why skaters buy supreme is because it's not element? 
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on June 21, 2018, 05:59:32 PM
I thought No it doesn’t but after this pic it def gives back

(https://imageshack.com/i/exl9Hep2j)
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Post by: SodaJerk on June 22, 2018, 01:41:35 AM
I thought No it doesn’t but after this pic it def gives back

(https://imageshack.com/i/exl9Hep2j)
That's a lot of pixelation. He either hangs mad dong or there's a wanted little person hiding in his crotch.
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Post by: S. on June 22, 2018, 02:27:14 AM
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I thought No it doesn’t but after this pic it def gives back

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That's a lot of pixelation. He either hangs mad dong or there's a wanted little person hiding in his crotch.

Haha

Supreme and that whole culture of limited street wear at its core has such strange fetish to it. They run on how badly people want the products. Just making them as desireable as possible which means they need to be very limited and expensive. It is not for everyone! You can't just skate our bowl, we don't associate with that regular shit. You need to know people!
The other day at the skatepark I saw a whole group of people in their thirties doing a photo shoot for a limited release nike shoe. Literally for hours they would put the shoe in different positions and take photos from various angles. Later I saw them taking photos of each other standing on this old looking railroad bridge. I guess they wanted to add some grittiness to their pictures. Fucking standing on the railroad tracks risking their life for dumb photos with some stupid sneakers!
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Ghost Face on June 22, 2018, 04:08:41 AM
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They've got to be one of the most profitable companies in skate. And half the company is owned by Carlyle Group, which is entirely antithetical to what skateboarding stands for. But it doesn't seem like they get any criticism at all. I feel like lots of skaters have learned to be super-critical of Nike, but it doesn't seem like there is a mass consensus about Supreme being bad for skate.

I can't recall ever hearing about Supreme doing stuff for skaters–besides sponsoring riders. No contests, no dontations, no skateparks, nothing at all that I can recall. Am I missing pieces of the picture, or is this an accurate take?
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what about DVS being owned by SBG. Huf and Lakai being owned by Altamont Capital. Supra being owned by K-Swiss. Vans being owned by VF. converse being owned by Nike. I could go on and on. Point is they started as a skateshop. they employ countless skaters and allow many of them to have careers. do you think half of todays pro skaters would still be pro skaters if there was no corporate support? no they'd have to get a real job and support their family. you may hate it but most of if not all of the skaters you love have been able to have a long successful career party because of corporate sponsors at one point of their career or another.

You missed something: (I hate that I'm posting a link to a Hypebeast page but): https://hypebeast.com/2017/11/huf-tsi-holdings-acquisition-90-percent-stake
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: SodaJerk on June 22, 2018, 05:28:09 AM
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They've got to be one of the most profitable companies in skate. And half the company is owned by Carlyle Group, which is entirely antithetical to what skateboarding stands for. But it doesn't seem like they get any criticism at all. I feel like lots of skaters have learned to be super-critical of Nike, but it doesn't seem like there is a mass consensus about Supreme being bad for skate.

I can't recall ever hearing about Supreme doing stuff for skaters–besides sponsoring riders. No contests, no dontations, no skateparks, nothing at all that I can recall. Am I missing pieces of the picture, or is this an accurate take?
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what about DVS being owned by SBG. Huf and Lakai being owned by Altamont Capital. Supra being owned by K-Swiss. Vans being owned by VF. converse being owned by Nike. I could go on and on. Point is they started as a skateshop. they employ countless skaters and allow many of them to have careers. do you think half of todays pro skaters would still be pro skaters if there was no corporate support? no they'd have to get a real job and support their family. you may hate it but most of if not all of the skaters you love have been able to have a long successful career party because of corporate sponsors at one point of their career or another.
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You missed something: (I hate that I'm posting a link to a Hypebeast page but): https://hypebeast.com/2017/11/huf-tsi-holdings-acquisition-90-percent-stake
If you listen to ISUCK's podcast you'd understand that without outside investment HUF wouldn't still be a brand. They were killing it but demand was outstripping supply and they struggled to get the capital needed to continue. That's the nature of the "expand or die" system.
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Post by: ManMelt on June 22, 2018, 05:41:59 AM
I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.
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Post by: fang on June 22, 2018, 06:08:22 AM
"Vintage Preme" .. that makes me laugh / sick together
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Post by: bucketoftruth on June 22, 2018, 06:25:26 AM

If you listen to ISUCK's podcast you'd understand that without outside investment HUF wouldn't still be a brand. They were killing it but demand was outstripping supply and they struggled to get the capital needed to continue. That's the nature of the "expand or die" system.
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HUF(co) could have stayed in business and not grown at all and the only sad people would have been their initial investors not getting paid like their American dreams demand. Its not like they pull your business license if you dont grow 5% YoY. You fell for their bullshit just like the kids do. Cant hate on Huf(nagel) getting paid, but dont pretend that its the same company. Its just a series of stickers some investment bankers now own.
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Post by: SodaJerk on June 22, 2018, 06:41:16 AM

If you listen to ISUCK's podcast you'd understand that without outside investment HUF wouldn't still be a brand. They were killing it but demand was outstripping supply and they struggled to get the capital needed to continue. That's the nature of the "expand or die" system.

HUF(co) could have stayed in business and not grown at all and the only sad people would have been their initial investors not getting paid like their American dreams demand. Its not like they pull your business license if you dont grow 5% YoY. You fell for their bullshit just like the kids do. Cant hate on Huf(nagel) getting paid, but dont pretend that its the same company. Its just a series of stickers some investment bankers now own.
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Aiming or deciding to remain an independent or cottage business is a sure fire way to limit your company's life expectancy when you have outlets in SF (currently America's most expensive city) and Tokyo (Asia's most expensive city). If you want to relocate to a less expensive regional locale and scratch by then fine. If there's a demand for more original products then you need to "expand or die". How'd you think the initial investors are gonna feel about that business model?
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Post by: Cherb on June 22, 2018, 06:56:02 AM

But with the TON of money they're sitting on it would be cool to see if they gave back to skaters/kids that come from a 'less privileged' background... They use that image to SELL after all right? The grungy/grimey NY look?

Well I truly wish they would start some kind of charity to help the kids that come from those neighborhoods, that maybe skate and barely have enough money to buy a pair of walmart jeans...
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Post by: Putaslocas on June 22, 2018, 08:56:33 AM
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I thought No it doesn’t but after this pic it def gives back

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That's a lot of pixelation. He either hangs mad dong or there's a wanted little person hiding in his crotch.
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Haha

Supreme and that whole culture of limited street wear at its core has such strange fetish to it. They run on how badly people want the products. Just making them as desireable as possible which means they need to be very limited and expensive. It is not for everyone! You can't just skate our bowl, we don't associate with that regular shit. You need to know people!
The other day at the skatepark I saw a whole group of people in their thirties doing a photo shoot for a limited release nike shoe. Literally for hours they would put the shoe in different positions and take photos from various angles. Later I saw them taking photos of each other standing on this old looking railroad bridge. I guess they wanted to add some grittiness to their pictures. Fucking standing on the railroad tracks risking their life for dumb photos with some stupid sneakers!

Theyre trying to expand nike into the bridge walking market. They work for the marketing department. Special ops.
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Post by: verylowimpact on June 22, 2018, 10:23:06 AM
I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.

Why would you even have to mention his race you fucking privileged 'white' douchebag piece of shit fuccboi?! If we're getting all sjw on this shit, let's bring it all out there.

And I guarantee, you're cringe worthy in real life you closet racist fuckface.
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Post by: shark tits on June 22, 2018, 10:47:13 AM
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I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.
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Why would you even have to mention his race you fucking privileged 'white' douchebag piece of shit fuccboi?! If we're getting all sjw on this shit, let's bring it all out there.

And I guarantee, you're cringe worthy in real life you closet racist fuckface.
yeah, how dare anyone mention race! i'm aghast.
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Post by: verylowimpact on June 22, 2018, 10:59:00 AM
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I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.
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Why would you even have to mention his race you fucking privileged 'white' douchebag piece of shit fuccboi?! If we're getting all sjw on this shit, let's bring it all out there.

And I guarantee, you're cringe worthy in real life you closet racist fuckface.
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yeah, how dare anyone mention race! i'm aghast.

Did that on purpose butthole, but didn't expect anyone stupid enough to actually call me out on it. But, closet racist have to stick together...aye?
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I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.
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Why would you even have to mention his race you fucking privileged 'white' douchebag piece of shit fuccboi?! If we're getting all sjw on this shit, let's bring it all out there.

And I guarantee, you're cringe worthy in real life you closet racist fuckface.
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yeah, how dare anyone mention race! i'm aghast.
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Did that on purpose butthole, but didn't expect anyone stupid enough to actually call me out on it. But, closet racist have to stick together...aye?
i don't think you did. it's consistent w/ your corny wanna be reagan persona.
i don't care for the guy but at least he's original. you're a copy of a wack dude who at least 50-50'd hubba.
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Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on June 22, 2018, 11:03:23 AM
Asians love Supreme lets not all pretend this isn’t a universal truth
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Post by: verylowimpact on June 22, 2018, 11:08:48 AM
Asians love Supreme lets not all pretend this isn’t a universal truth

Doesn't every fucking race love supreme? Or is it OK to single out one minority race?

Would love to hear your educated factual explanation on your ignorant statement.
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Post by: verylowimpact on June 22, 2018, 11:14:47 AM
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I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.
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Why would you even have to mention his race you fucking privileged 'white' douchebag piece of shit fuccboi?! If we're getting all sjw on this shit, let's bring it all out there.

And I guarantee, you're cringe worthy in real life you closet racist fuckface.
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yeah, how dare anyone mention race! i'm aghast.
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Did that on purpose butthole, but didn't expect anyone stupid enough to actually call me out on it. But, closet racist have to stick together...aye?
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i don't think you did. it's consistent w/ your corny wanna be reagan persona.
i don't care for the guy but at least he's original. you're a copy of a wack dude who at least 50-50'd hubba.


Absurd..lmao. Go eat some spaghetti out of the bath tub. I can't even with you.
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I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.
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Why would you even have to mention his race you fucking privileged 'white' douchebag piece of shit fuccboi?! If we're getting all sjw on this shit, let's bring it all out there.

And I guarantee, you're cringe worthy in real life you closet racist fuckface.
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yeah, how dare anyone mention race! i'm aghast.
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Did that on purpose butthole, but didn't expect anyone stupid enough to actually call me out on it. But, closet racist have to stick together...aye?
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i don't think you did. it's consistent w/ your corny wanna be reagan persona.
i don't care for the guy but at least he's original. you're a copy of a wack dude who at least 50-50'd hubba.

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Absurd..lmao. Go eat some spaghetti out of the bath tub. I can't even with you.
can't even what? that's not a complete sentence, valley girl.
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I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.
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Why would you even have to mention his race you fucking privileged 'white' douchebag piece of shit fuccboi?! If we're getting all sjw on this shit, let's bring it all out there.

And I guarantee, you're cringe worthy in real life you closet racist fuckface.
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yeah, how dare anyone mention race! i'm aghast.
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Did that on purpose butthole, but didn't expect anyone stupid enough to actually call me out on it. But, closet racist have to stick together...aye?
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i don't think you did. it's consistent w/ your corny wanna be reagan persona.
i don't care for the guy but at least he's original. you're a copy of a wack dude who at least 50-50'd hubba.

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Absurd..lmao. Go eat some spaghetti out of the bath tub. I can't even with you.
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can't even what? that's not a complete sentence, valley girl.
Damn ya'll really doin this
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Post by: SodaJerk on June 22, 2018, 11:36:35 AM
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Doesn't every fucking race love supreme? Or is it OK to single out one minority race?

Would love to hear your educated factual explanation on your ignorant statement.
If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Post by: Hoeboi on June 22, 2018, 11:39:10 AM
you guys are so gay man like for reals
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Post by: SodaJerk on June 22, 2018, 11:43:51 AM
you guys are so gay man like for reals
Thank you for noticing.
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Post by: verylowimpact on June 22, 2018, 11:45:40 AM
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Doesn't every fucking race love supreme? Or is it OK to single out one minority race?

Would love to hear your educated factual explanation on your ignorant statement.
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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.

Racist? Maybe not, prejudice tho? 100%
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Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on June 22, 2018, 11:45:55 AM
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I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.
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Why would you even have to mention his race you fucking privileged 'white' douchebag piece of shit fuccboi?! If we're getting all sjw on this shit, let's bring it all out there.

And I guarantee, you're cringe worthy in real life you closet racist fuckface.
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yeah, how dare anyone mention race! i'm aghast.
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Did that on purpose butthole, but didn't expect anyone stupid enough to actually call me out on it. But, closet racist have to stick together...aye?
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i don't think you did. it's consistent w/ your corny wanna be reagan persona.
i don't care for the guy but at least he's original. you're a copy of a wack dude who at least 50-50'd hubba.

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Absurd..lmao. Go eat some spaghetti out of the bath tub. I can't even with you.

Nice Gummo reference
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Post by: verylowimpact on June 22, 2018, 11:49:01 AM
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I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.
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Why would you even have to mention his race you fucking privileged 'white' douchebag piece of shit fuccboi?! If we're getting all sjw on this shit, let's bring it all out there.

And I guarantee, you're cringe worthy in real life you closet racist fuckface.
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yeah, how dare anyone mention race! i'm aghast.
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Did that on purpose butthole, but didn't expect anyone stupid enough to actually call me out on it. But, closet racist have to stick together...aye?
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i don't think you did. it's consistent w/ your corny wanna be reagan persona.
i don't care for the guy but at least he's original. you're a copy of a wack dude who at least 50-50'd hubba.

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Absurd..lmao. Go eat some spaghetti out of the bath tub. I can't even with you.
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Nice Gummo reference

 ;)
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Post by: SodaJerk on June 22, 2018, 11:49:11 AM
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Doesn't every fucking race love supreme? Or is it OK to single out one minority race?

Would love to hear your educated factual explanation on your ignorant statement.
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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Racist? Maybe not, prejudice tho? 100%
Not one single person of average intelligence can claim to be free of prejudice. That does not mean that anyone has any good reason for being racist.
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Post by: Joclo on June 22, 2018, 12:02:47 PM
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Doesn't every fucking race love supreme? Or is it OK to single out one minority race?

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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Racist? Maybe not, prejudice tho? 100%
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Not one single person of average intelligence can claim to be free of prejudice. That does not mean that anyone has any good reason for being racist.

Agree. Prejudice will exist unless one can completely dissolve themselves of any/all meaning.
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Post by: verylowimpact on June 22, 2018, 12:07:56 PM
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Doesn't every fucking race love supreme? Or is it OK to single out one minority race?

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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Racist? Maybe not, prejudice tho? 100%
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Not one single person of average intelligence can claim to be free of prejudice. That does not mean that anyone has any good reason for being racist.

Let's not kid ourselves. When it comes to race and prejudices combined, it's a fine fucking burry line. You can't really separate the two into becoming the majority of the time...somewhat negative. With that clusterfuck, it morphs into some type of systematic dislike or generalized false truth, which in turn, could be considered somewhat racist.
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Doesn't every fucking race love supreme? Or is it OK to single out one minority race?

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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Racist? Maybe not, prejudice tho? 100%
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Not one single person of average intelligence can claim to be free of prejudice. That does not mean that anyone has any good reason for being racist.
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Agree. Prejudice will exist unless one can completely dissolve themselves of any/all meaning.
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Post by: Joclo on June 22, 2018, 12:17:31 PM
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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Not one single person of average intelligence can claim to be free of prejudice. That does not mean that anyone has any good reason for being racist.
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Let's not kid ourselves. When it comes to race and prejudices combined, it's a fine fucking burry line. You can't really separate the two into becoming the majority of the time...somewhat negative. With that clusterfuck, it morphs into some type of systematic dislike or generalized false truth, which in turn, could be considered somewhat racist.

Racism is inherently prejudicial, but prejudice isn't inherently racial??

My vape pen could be doing the talking rn.
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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Racist? Maybe not, prejudice tho? 100%
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Not one single person of average intelligence can claim to be free of prejudice. That does not mean that anyone has any good reason for being racist.
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Let's not kid ourselves. When it comes to race and prejudices combined, it's a fine fucking burry line. You can't really separate the two into becoming the majority of the time...somewhat negative. With that clusterfuck, it morphs into some type of systematic dislike or generalized false truth, which in turn, could be considered somewhat racist.
Presumptuous at worst. Thinking that a person of Asian descent would be willing to pay more for vintage preme is based on basic market research. To be racist or even prejudice would somehow disadvantage that purchaser when your end goal is the make skrilla.
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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Not one single person of average intelligence can claim to be free of prejudice. That does not mean that anyone has any good reason for being racist.
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Let's not kid ourselves. When it comes to race and prejudices combined, it's a fine fucking burry line. You can't really separate the two into becoming the majority of the time...somewhat negative. With that clusterfuck, it morphs into some type of systematic dislike or generalized false truth, which in turn, could be considered somewhat racist.
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Presumptuous at worst. Thinking that a person of Asian descent would be willing to pay more for vintage preme is based on basic market research. To be racist or even prejudice would somehow disadvantage that purchaser when your end goal is the make skrilla.

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Post by: Allez_Jambon on June 22, 2018, 01:37:11 PM

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What podcast is this? Link me please?
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Post by: SodaJerk on June 22, 2018, 01:50:07 PM

If you listen to ISUCK's podcast you'd understand that without outside investment HUF wouldn't still be a brand. They were killing it but demand was outstripping supply and they struggled to get the capital needed to continue. That's the nature of the "expand or die" system.
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What podcast is this? Link me please?
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Post by: behavioralguide on June 22, 2018, 02:51:01 PM
everybody un-learned how to
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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Racist? Maybe not, prejudice tho? 100%

Asians are fair game for generalizations without actual data because a lot of them are rich and don’t experience as severe of racism as other minority groups. That’s how it goes in racial discourse for the most part.
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Post by: Sleazy on June 22, 2018, 07:11:05 PM
Am I racist because I think rednecks like magallen...
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Post by: Hoeboi on June 22, 2018, 08:37:50 PM
Am I racist because I think rednecks like magallen...

is someone racist if they assume "niggas like grape drank" ?

also I'm black, and i have a cock in my mouth while i type this.
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Post by: revfredmorton on June 22, 2018, 09:44:29 PM
don’t reckon there will ever be another industry that asks companies to “give back” to the culture (whatever the fuck that means) than skateboarding.


that because most skateboarders have a sense of entitlement
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Would love to hear your educated factual explanation on your ignorant statement.
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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Racist? Maybe not, prejudice tho? 100%
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Asians are fair game for generalizations without actual data because a lot of them are rich and don’t experience as severe of racism as other minority groups. That’s how it goes in racial discourse for the most part.

I can barely get into this shit with any of you as clearly, most of you are talking out of your ass and are clueless on the subject matter, and really, why wouldn't you be. The 'model minority' is a myth and a systematic racist term made up by whites to show how one minority group could be a good example on how minorities should act, and that alone is racist and it's total bullshit. Just imagine being in that generalized box your whole life, fuck, your ignorant statement is a product of it.  A lot of Asians are stuck with old school eastern ways, brought down from generations and generations of outdated ways of dealing with shit, especially western type shit, hence making them passive and generally non outspoken on a lot issues.  Asians are the number one poorest minority group in NYC. A lot of them in the US try to front and show off but in reality, have no money. This whole, they're all rich bullshit is false as your ignorant statement. Asians face racism every fucking day, it's not outright, say like other minority groups. They are not represented in media, and if they are, it's super fucked up and generalized. You ever heard of the glass ceiling in the workplace for Asian people?! Go educated yourself before you speak on shit you have no idea about. And fuck, since we're on this. Every aware Asian person in this white frat boy skate industry feels exactly everything I just spoke about, they may not say it but they do.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on June 22, 2018, 10:17:13 PM
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Asians love Supreme lets not all pretend this isn’t a universal truth
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Doesn't every fucking race love supreme? Or is it OK to single out one minority race?

Would love to hear your educated factual explanation on your ignorant statement.
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A lot of them in the US try to front and show off but in reality, have no money.
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Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: ChuckRamone on June 22, 2018, 10:18:47 PM
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Doesn't every fucking race love supreme? Or is it OK to single out one minority race?

Would love to hear your educated factual explanation on your ignorant statement.
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If I was selling some "vintage Preme" and it was a sealed bid between races I'd bet that the Asian contingent of the auction would out bid all comers. I might be wrong but I don't see how that is racist.
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Racist? Maybe not, prejudice tho? 100%
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Asians are fair game for generalizations without actual data because a lot of them are rich and don’t experience as severe of racism as other minority groups. That’s how it goes in racial discourse for the most part.
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I can barely get into this shit with any of you as clearly, most of you are talking out of your ass and are clueless on the subject matter, and really, why wouldn't you be. The 'model minority' is a myth and a systematic racist term made up by whites to show how one minority group could be a good example on how minorities should act, and that alone is racist and it's total bullshit. Just imagine being in that generalized box your whole life, fuck, your ignorant statement is a product of it.  A lot of Asians are stuck with old school eastern ways, brought down from generations and generations of outdated ways of dealing with shit, especially western type shit, hence making them passive and generally non outspoken on a lot issues.  Asians are the number one poorest minority group in NYC. A lot of them in the US try to front and show off but in reality, have no money. This whole, they're all rich bullshit is false as your ignorant statement. Asians face racism every fucking day, it's not outright, say like other minority groups. They are not represented in media, and if they are, it's super fucked up and generalized. You ever heard of the glass ceiling in the workplace for Asian people?! Go educated yourself before you speak on shit you have no idea about. And fuck, since we're on this. Every aware Asian person in this white frat boy skate industry feels exactly everything I just spoke about, they may not say it but they do.

sorry, I should have made it clearer that I was being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: ChuckRamone on June 22, 2018, 10:28:30 PM
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Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: SodaJerk on June 22, 2018, 11:41:49 PM
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Am I racist because I think rednecks like magallen...
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is someone racist if they assume "niggas like grape drank" ?

also I'm black, and i have a cock in my mouth while i type this.
We know you're not black.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: revfredmorton on June 23, 2018, 08:23:15 AM
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Am I racist because I think rednecks like magallen...
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is someone racist if they assume "niggas like grape drank" ?

also I'm black, and i have a cock in my mouth while i type this.
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We know you're not black.

how do we know he not black?
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: bucketoftruth on June 23, 2018, 11:03:07 AM
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If you listen to ISUCK's podcast you'd understand that without outside investment HUF wouldn't still be a brand. They were killing it but demand was outstripping supply and they struggled to get the capital needed to continue. That's the nature of the "expand or die" system.
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HUF(co) could have stayed in business and not grown at all and the only sad people would have been their initial investors not getting paid like their American dreams demand. Its not like they pull your business license if you dont grow 5% YoY. You fell for their bullshit just like the kids do. Cant hate on Huf(nagel) getting paid, but dont pretend that its the same company. Its just a series of stickers some investment bankers now own.
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Aiming or deciding to remain an independent or cottage business is a sure fire way to limit your company's life expectancy when you have outlets in SF (currently America's most expensive city) and Tokyo (Asia's most expensive city). If you want to relocate to a less expensive regional locale and scratch by then fine. If there's a demand for more original products then you need to "expand or die". How'd you think the initial investors are gonna feel about that business model?
Initial investors bought in to sell high, not to add to the skateboarding virtue bucket. Growing to show value is what motivates investors, and they are incentivized  to grow when they shouldn't for short term gain. Thats the gamble of the stock market. Thats why dudes jump out of buildings. Because its "Grow or Die" and its gnarly as fuck.

As for botiques, all that shits internet based anyways. Or if its home spun wool and vegan embroidered next door at the farmers market, none of these hypebeast investors give a shit unless they can use that to sell more, then replicate it next season for cheaper. Where is the Sci-Fi Fantasy mall kiosk? Its on the contract when Jerry gets tired of hustling hoodies or needs to buy a new car real quick.  There are hundreds of thousands of small businesses that don't become Nike, but keep the owners and employees comfortable and feeling secure about their lives.

It could be that "theres a demand for more original products" which is kindof self defeating if you want sport-toy company to shape its user base with charitable donations and bold mission statements.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: ManMelt on June 23, 2018, 06:59:22 PM
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I bought a bunch of things from the store in the early 2000’s, when Hickey was still there. mostly hats. I’ve been to embarrassed to even wear them in the current climate, so I sold them all this Vietnamese guy that lives in the apartment across the hall. He paid a pretty penny for each one, and was so hyped to be getting “vintage Preme”. It was cringe worthy. You couldn’t pay me to wear a Supreme hat in 2018.
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Why would you even have to mention his race you fucking privileged 'white' douchebag piece of shit fuccboi?! If we're getting all sjw on this shit, let's bring it all out there.

And I guarantee, you're cringe worthy in real life you closet racist fuckface.
Are you serious? What a herb!
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Grant Patronik on July 04, 2018, 07:28:54 AM
£50,000 donated to help unlock and restore the small banks at Southbank. I've been excited about this project for a long time, so this is cool to see. Everything else in this thread is officially irevelant.

https://instagram.com/p/Bkz7MeonS-5/
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Prawn Cocktail on July 05, 2018, 02:18:10 AM
£50,000 donated to help unlock and restore the small banks at Southbank. I've been excited about this project for a long time, so this is cool to see. Everything else in this thread is officially irevelant.

https://instagram.com/p/Bkz7MeonS-5/

Supreme on Slap confirmed.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on July 05, 2018, 02:43:29 AM
Awesome.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Jabootie Bootie on July 05, 2018, 02:43:48 AM
It's funny how this generation believes that companies owe anyone anything.  They make and sell goods for use and consumption.  It's up to the consumers of said goods to decided whether or not to purchase those goods.  The masses have spoken, and they care not as much for skateboarding as they do for proposed goods.  Start a company and give to the community if that's what you want to do. We all know Supreme is more hype than substance.  Let it go.
Title: Re: Does Supreme "give back" to skating?
Post by: Andy_Roys_Left_Nut on July 05, 2018, 03:15:10 AM
£50,000 - The metaphorical sock in the shit talkers gob!

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Post by: sharkin on July 05, 2018, 07:32:48 AM
that's a typo, they're donating 50,000 lbs of concrete.

Supreme goin around talking pounds in england getting everyone jazzed up -- they're spending about $5k on bags of crete