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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: 256 Ply on March 02, 2021, 11:09:12 PM
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https://royalskateboardtrucks.com/
(https://i.imgur.com/f64UISK.jpg)
- Rapid forged construction
- Inverted kingpin model available (socket & allen key compatible)
- Ultra lights version available (hollow kingpins & axles)
- Five widths: 127, 139, 144, 149, 159
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Oh hell yeah, can’t wait to not buy those!
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Oh hell yeah, can’t wait to not buy those!
Please let me know how they don't work out, so I can not get a pair too!
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Just a reminder of how much I want the new Aces.
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Who asked for these?
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Fuck it, I’ll buy them. I never skated royal. Nothing wrong with trying new things
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Fuck it, I’ll buy them. I never skated royal. Nothing wrong with trying new things
Never step outside your comfort zone or broaden your horizons, that's what I always say to myself in my mom's basement.
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Fuck it, I’ll buy them. I never skated royal. Nothing wrong with trying new things
The royals I’ve had have been pretty good tbh. These look real decent.
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They look like they went with a Thunder hanger and Theeve baseplate, odd choice. If they perform like a Thunder with an extended baseplate, I'd give them a try. Alas a man can dream....
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Guy did some of his best skating on Royals. They can't be all bad.
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There’s probably a bizarro Slap universe somewhere and everyone there says the big 3 are Krux, Royal, and Ruckus.
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Nope!
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Thanks, I hate it.
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To me, it’s cute they they’re still trying.
Thanks, Craig, but no thanks.
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Guy did some of his best skating on Royals. They can't be all bad.
I dunno about that with Guy....if you said ventures I would have agreed with you.
Cory, KT, Wes, Jerry, Griffin. All killed it on royals.
Craig deserves all the hate, the products they put out, for so long, were of very bad quality. Didn’t stop me from buying 4 star jeans hoping
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I honestly wouldn't mind trying these.
I had a pair of Royals before, and they were good at being okay. Didn't have any problems with slappys and whatnot. Turn could've been better. Thing is, for like $5-10 more you can just get Indy/Thunder/etc trucks.
Interesting to see that after all these years, they're finally adding kingpin clearance to the standard kingpin models, as the current models have the kingpin level with the hanger.
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Most least kingpin clearance ever, fixed
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Out of all skate companies, is a different truck company the hardest sell? Seems like people are stuck in their ways with the big 4 and won't try a new one as easily as you might with a different deck brand.
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I wouldn’t mind trying them out tbh. I’ve never rode the older royals but a slightly higher thunder with an inverted kingpin sounds interesting.
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Most kingpin clearance ever ?
Looks like someone’s never skated Venture hi’s.
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Out of all skate companies, is a different truck company the hardest sell? Seems like people are stuck in their ways with the big 4 and won't try a new one as easily as you might with a different deck brand.
Big 4? Since when, I'm guessing, the fourth one is Ace?
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Out of all skate companies, is a different truck company the hardest sell? Seems like people are stuck in their ways with the big 4 and won't try a new one as easily as you might with a different deck brand.
I’d try em but you gotta think about how much R&D and good engineering is needed to create a really nice truck, you can’t just hit up a truck factory like you can a board factory and start making trucks. There’s way more variation in trucks than any other skate product and they profoundly affect how a setup feels so you can’t really blame people for sticking to what they know.
That said I also don’t want to hear the usual “they’re made in China therefore they must suck” complaints because almost every truck is made in China already and there’s a whole thread dedicated to sucking Chinese made Ace’s dick. It’s the design of the truck that matters most, so if Royal is coming with a new design they at least deserve a shot in my book
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Out of all skate companies, is a different truck company the hardest sell? Seems like people are stuck in their ways with the big 4 and won't try a new one as easily as you might with a different deck brand.
Been that way for a while. Ace got a mad jump in followers when Indy moved production to China.
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Out of all skate companies, is a different truck company the hardest sell? Seems like people are stuck in their ways with the big 4 and won't try a new one as easily as you might with a different deck brand.
It's not that people won't try, some [of us] do, and report back that they were shit, so no reason in trying.
I think these days you have to bring something new to the table.
Theeve brought Ti to the truck market
ACE brought the best turning truck out
Krux had the Downlow Kingpin
Tensor went best grinding/lightest truck (then modified that with the ATGs)
You have to have a functioning gimmick in addition to turning well or having unique geo.
What does a new royal bring to the market, not to their brand? Most KP clearance compared to who? Rapid Forged construction (marketing)? A chunky inverted kingpin (if they follow their existing style). Sacred Geometry (marketing again) but is this new geo or just the same from current models?
The truck market already has enough variety to satisfy everyone, tho I think if Thunder made a longer baseplate more OCD folks would ride them...and if they somehow kept their geo and managed to lessen the wheel bite...
That all said, you know never, they could lower that inverted pin, hollows could be nice and lite, WB could be right between a Thunder and Indy and they could be a great turning, yet stable on center truck with a decent height and extended baseplate.
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Out of all skate companies, is a different truck company the hardest sell? Seems like people are stuck in their ways with the big 4 and won't try a new one as easily as you might with a different deck brand.
It's not that people won't try, some [of us] do, and report back that they were shit, so no reason in trying.
I think these days you have to bring something new to the table.
Theeve brought Ti to the truck market
ACE brought the best turning truck out
Krux had the Downlow Kingpin
Tensor went best grinding/lightest truck (then modified that with the ATGs)
You have to have a functioning gimmick in addition to turning well or having unique geo.
What does a new royal bring to the market, not to their brand? Most KP clearance compared to who? Rapid Forged construction (marketing)? A chunky inverted kingpin (if they follow their existing style). Sacred Geometry (marketing again) but is this new geo or just the same from current models?
The truck market already has enough variety to satisfy everyone, tho I think if Thunder made a longer baseplate more OCD folks would ride them...and if they somehow kept their geo and managed to lessen the wheel bite...
That all said, you know never, they could lower that inverted pin, hollows could be nice and lite, WB could be right between a Thunder and Indy and they could be a great turning, yet stable on center truck with a decent height and extended baseplate.
I’ve been around long enough to know that the folks posting in the truck threads about their “findings” are never the same folks in the “show me your axle” threads. Grain of salt and all that...
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Out of all skate companies, is a different truck company the hardest sell? Seems like people are stuck in their ways with the big 4 and won't try a new one as easily as you might with a different deck brand.
Been that way for a while. Ace got a mad jump in followers when Indy moved production to China.
Yeah, I'm aware of that but there is no way in hell for Ace to be called "big" with their shit ass QC and lack of an 8.5" truck.
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Out of all skate companies, is a different truck company the hardest sell? Seems like people are stuck in their ways with the big 4 and won't try a new one as easily as you might with a different deck brand.
funny thing is Ace came out after Royal did
insane that when Royal began they had dudes like AVE and Koston
I even remember a Jessy Hsu ad where he was clearly skating indys
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Thanks, Craig, but no thanks.
Been seeing the word Craig pop up in a few Crail related threads, can someone fill me in?
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Thanks, Craig, but no thanks.
Been seeing the word Craig pop up in a few Crail related threads, can someone fill me in?
My guess is that it’s an autocorrect joke
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Out of all skate companies, is a different truck company the hardest sell? Seems like people are stuck in their ways with the big 4 and won't try a new one as easily as you might with a different deck brand.
Been that way for a while. Ace got a mad jump in followers when Indy moved production to China.
Their QC needs improvement for sure, but they're big now, no doubt about it.
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The last time I skated Royals must've been 2001? I only had one set but remembered liking them. Which is to say they were ass because I was 20 years younger and had no taste back then...
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looks like if complete trucks, indy and thunder had a 3way
its either the best of both worlds or the worst. Either way can someone get a review and wheelbase out?
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Lol why. Idk anyone who's gonna see this and be like yo im gonna try some royals now.
Is crailtap still behind royal? If so, can it and pay carl Aikens all the money they would have spent on more trucks.
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looks like if complete trucks, indy and thunder had a 3way
its either the best of both worlds or the worst. Either way can someone get a review and wheelbase out?
DM Royal on Instagram like a man to send Ben Degros a truck so he can review them, though he said he's trying to break the madness and stick to just 1 pair of trucks.
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looks like if complete trucks, indy and thunder had a 3way
its either the best of both worlds or the worst. Either way can someone get a review and wheelbase out?
GM Royal on Instagram like a man to send Ben Degros a truck so he can review them, though he said he's trying to break the madness and stick to just 1 pair of trucks.
his last krux review was underwhelming, seems really over it
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Out of all skate companies, is a different truck company the hardest sell? Seems like people are stuck in their ways with the big 4 and won't try a new one as easily as you might with a different deck brand.
It's not that people won't try, some [of us] do, and report back that they were shit, so no reason in trying.
I think these days you have to bring something new to the table.
Theeve brought Ti to the truck market
ACE brought the best turning truck out
Krux had the Downlow Kingpin
Tensor went best grinding/lightest truck (then modified that with the ATGs)
You have to have a functioning gimmick in addition to turning well or having unique geo.
What does a new royal bring to the market, not to their brand? Most KP clearance compared to who? Rapid Forged construction (marketing)? A chunky inverted kingpin (if they follow their existing style). Sacred Geometry (marketing again) but is this new geo or just the same from current models?
The truck market already has enough variety to satisfy everyone, tho I think if Thunder made a longer baseplate more OCD folks would ride them...and if they somehow kept their geo and managed to lessen the wheel bite...
That all said, you know never, they could lower that inverted pin, hollows could be nice and lite, WB could be right between a Thunder and Indy and they could be a great turning, yet stable on center truck with a decent height and extended baseplate.
From what I remember, royals are around 50.5 mm high. Quick pop. Can be ridden very loose. I didn’t have as much wheelbite as I thought I would. Metal seemed softer, ground easier. Last time I had them was way before I thought about effective wb. Can’t remember the baseplate either. Just what I can remember for the old ones. I probably won’t end trying the new ones, I try and only buy stuff from skateboard shops
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Can someone explain why is hand pouring pivot cups and bushings are a thing???
I really don't mind if a machine does it. Probably less wasteful, and I feel sorry for the guy who has to tip hot liquid urethane into tiny molds all day.
I think Spitfire always mentions their wheels are hand cut as well, which again, I'd think you'd want to automate that process.
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About 3 years ago I slept over at this friends place and in the morning I was late for my work bus so he borrowed me his deck to push to the bus stop. He had some Royals on and I was surprised how much they carved. Really surfy feeling and felt super fun just to cruise around. I can't attest for any grind feeling, pop or quality in general but I remember being impressed with the turn.
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I wonder if 30% stronger is legit. They look 29% stronger, max.
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I wonder if 30% stronger is legit. They look 29% stronger, max.
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Can someone explain why is hand pouring pivot cups and bushings are a thing???
I really don't mind if a machine does it. Probably less wasteful, and I feel sorry for the guy who has to tip hot liquid urethane into tiny molds all day.
I think Spitfire always mentions their wheels are hand cut as well, which again, I'd think you'd want to automate that process.
Marketing. Makes the product feel more personal and human to the customer.
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Every time someone posts a Royal thread, I feel compelled to respond with the story of that one time when I set up a pair and just couldn’t get them to feel or turn right and then ended up cracking em and breaking the kingpin on the back truck skating flatground in my garage on the second day I skated them.
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If you get past the 12-year old brand feeling, the last trucks were actually decent. Easily the deepest turning trucks for such a low height, it kinda fills that gap where it turns deeper like aces but have Thunder height. I probably won't skate them because I found my perfect combo but I like that they're around still.. Just in case.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QxIIz1yEsA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QxIIz1yEsA)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QxIIz1yEsA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QxIIz1yEsA)
I'm agnostic but I needed that soul in my Friday, shalom.
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If you get past the 12-year old brand feeling, the last trucks were actually decent. Easily the deepest turning trucks for such a low height, it kinda fills that gap where it turns deeper like aces but have Thunder height. I probably won't skate them because I found my perfect combo but I like that they're around still.. Just in case.
What is your perfect combo
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I'll give the 159 version a shot. I like supporting Crail and I appreciate ground up truck redesigns.
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Not exactly ready to swim across an ocean for Royals but... anyone see/hear any news about this? I want to set up a 7.5 - 7.75 and it would be cool to try out a small truck with the 50.5mm height.. Hate the turn on lows.
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If you get past the 12-year old brand feeling, the last trucks were actually decent. Easily the deepest turning trucks for such a low height, it kinda fills that gap where it turns deeper like aces but have Thunder height. I probably won't skate them because I found my perfect combo but I like that they're around still.. Just in case.
What is your perfect combo
Didn't see this back then but... Indy (stage 10 or 11) forged baseplate with stage 10 hanger. 51.5mm high and turns real nice. Getting harder to get stage 10 hangers though.
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Considering AF1 aces ended up being somewhat of a dud (compared to the classics) from the opinions here, it would be funny if these were actually good.
I'd try them if they're as inexpensive as their other trucks ($35ish).
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Always kinda had a soft spot for the royal logo, and the similarity in name to “Royal Trux” (the druggy noise rock band). Never skated em tho.
If they get a ton of good buzz I might try a set out, but after a year of Covid-induced gear madness I finally found a good setup for my current skate practices, and I’m not trying to fuck with it unnecessarily.
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About 3 years ago I slept over at this friends place and in the morning I was late for my work bus so he borrowed me his deck to push to the bus stop. He had some Royals on and I was surprised how much they carved. Really surfy feeling and felt super fun just to cruise around. I can't attest for any grind feeling, pop or quality in general but I remember being impressed with the turn.
Had a similar experience on a friends board. Thought they were Indy's and was like, "oh Indy's do have a good turn" and he was like "those are Royals". I'm also a sucker for the flat ass look and the fact that pretty much no one skates them, definitely might try these if the 149's are lower than 55mm.
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I have the 5.25 inverted kingpin joints setup now on a Real 8.06 and am having a blast on them. I heard someone describe them as a surfy Thunder and I completely agree. For what it’s worth, they extend the WB by around +2.87 (I could be slightly off) so keep that in mind if you put them on a deck with a short WB.
I messaged Vincent Alvarez and he told me the new ones might be out in a few months but not sure if he even knows.
(https://i.ibb.co/wRX7v93/4-C2-CDEA4-8-B7-C-4-A1-B-94-D3-B3298-D21861-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wRX7v93)
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I have the 5.25 inverted kingpin joints setup now on a Real 8.06 and am having a blast on them. I heard someone describe them as a surfy Thunder and I completely agree. For what it’s worth, they extend the WB by around +2.87 (I could be slightly off) so keep that in mind if you put them on a deck with a short WB.
I messaged Vincent Alvarez and he told me the new ones might be out in a few months but not sure if he even knows.
(https://i.ibb.co/wRX7v93/4-C2-CDEA4-8-B7-C-4-A1-B-94-D3-B3298-D21861-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wRX7v93)
Kudos for doing it like a man
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There’s probably a bizarro Slap universe somewhere and everyone there says the big 3 are Krux, Royal, and Ruckus.
Apparently there something like eleven different dimensions, so In some other alter dimension, this is probably true.
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There’s probably a bizarro Slap universe somewhere and everyone there says the big 3 are Krux, Royal, and Ruckus.
Apparently there something like eleven different dimensions, so In some other alter dimension, this is probably true.
Missing Kre-per, Monster and Orion, such disrespect.
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can't hate them for trying but, you know, it's a no for me
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Lol at the "It's your turn" tagline. Totally gonna ditch my Aces because I'd rather have it be MY turn than THEIR turn. Lmao. Get real, Crailtap.
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for a while, I've been wanting to try out royals actually, I always wanted to see for myself if they were bad, but I keep forgetting they exist when I'm in the mood for new trucks.
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If these are like an indy thunder hybrid with lower height but solid turn I'll try em. My second ever pair of trucks were royals so we got some catching up to do. Anyone know how much the wheel base extension on these will be?
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I always skate Royals, the last 2 new ones are really really good.
And i rather give money to skater owner.
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If Royals are good then why do many of their team riders and none of their former riders use em? I saw a current Royal team rider on Thunders and in some footage you can definitely tell dudes aren’t on em.
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I wonder if Tershay help them to design it
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If these are like an indy thunder hybrid with lower height but solid turn I'll try em. My second ever pair of trucks were royals so we got some catching up to do. Anyone know how much the wheel base extension on these will be?
I measured +2.87 or so.. it definitely feels somewhere between an Indy and Ace so that number should be a good ballpark amount (I only have a measuring tape so there is some room for error)
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If Royals are good then why do many of their team riders and none of their former riders use em? I saw a current Royal team rider on Thunders and in some footage you can definitely tell dudes aren’t on em.
Not sure. Pretty sure at least Vincent Alvarez and Griffin Gass and Leo Takayma actually skate them though? I don't think they're as sturdy or well built as the big three. There definitely is a cheaper feeling similar to Krux. I personally haven't had any issues with my set and the pros outweigh the cons imo
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Royals actually aren't horrible. They take a bit to break in, and are very squirrelly at first but once you do they turn nice. Not my favorite truck but royal has been around like 20 years now.
I've got ventures on my board (Indy 94a conical on top and stock venture bushing on bottom)
I have royal raw 5.25s on my zip zinger. I decided to throw the extra 94a Indy bushings on top and the stock royal bushings on bottom.
Just from standing on my zip zinger with that truck and bushing setup in my kitchen it feels and turns really nicely.
I bought the royals cause they were cheap. I sometimes get caught up in being a loyalist to one brand or another but it's really nice when I get out of that and enjoy trying something new
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