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Title: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: backfliptofiftyfifty on May 21, 2022, 02:54:24 PM
https://ibb.co/c8GbHCf
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 21, 2022, 04:02:11 PM
I wish Slap would stop reminding me this guy exists
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Post by: TheLowerBack on May 21, 2022, 04:23:31 PM
Puig wore it better
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Post by: CanadianBacon on May 21, 2022, 04:48:59 PM
Mickey Alfred is just not good looking enough to pull off the look he goes for,  same thing with Jonah Hill.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: marty mcfly on May 21, 2022, 05:10:58 PM
one reason more to like tyshawn
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Post by: matt_2993 on May 21, 2022, 05:16:01 PM
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Let's embed it proper
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Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: scary on May 21, 2022, 05:48:58 PM
Ball sniffer attire
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: big_kev_215 on May 21, 2022, 06:20:38 PM
Who does better kickflips, Mikey Alfred or Jonah Hill?
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Post by: augustmoon on May 21, 2022, 06:30:23 PM
Tyshawns about to steal that whole team  8)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: h00man on May 21, 2022, 07:04:58 PM
LMAO imagine being mikey and then TJ, one of the greatest of this generation, calls your company dead last...

IC, die off and get Zach a proper board sponsor.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on May 21, 2022, 08:32:38 PM
I love hating Mikey Alfred. It just feels right.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: ShyLow on May 21, 2022, 09:25:42 PM
oh I'm here for this

https://gfycat.com/agedgroundedbrant
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Pappy Jones on May 21, 2022, 09:29:09 PM
I love hating Mikey Alfred. It just feels right.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: matt_2993 on May 21, 2022, 09:57:40 PM
Can stories get embedded?  Mikey is crying laughing into his phone with major emphasis on his tears to act like he's not bothered
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Hefe43 on May 21, 2022, 10:53:47 PM
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Let's embed it proper
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White Humpty looking fuck
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: RCB3 on May 21, 2022, 11:05:48 PM
Weird people are putting Jonah Hill and Mikey in the same camp. Jonah Hill is way cooler than Mikey Alfred. I've always thought Mikey was the worst, but when that interview came out talking shit on Spike Jones, that was the final straw. Hopefully he gets blacklisted from Hollywood.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on May 22, 2022, 12:18:15 AM
Weirdest dude ever  ???
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Mean salto on May 22, 2022, 12:37:26 AM
Weird people are putting Jonah Hill and Mikey in the same camp. Jonah Hill is way cooler than Mikey Alfred. I've always thought Mikey was the worst, but when that interview came out talking shit on Spike Jones, that was the final straw. Hopefully he gets blacklisted from Hollywood.
Yeah like Jonahs at least actually done a bunch of legit stuff. Problem with blacklisting and banning people is in their minds it just reaffirms their belief that everyone's trying to hold them back and that's why they aren't successful and not their general lack of talent.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BALARGUE on May 22, 2022, 12:55:21 AM
There’s something powerful about the triangle shape
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 22, 2022, 01:09:50 AM
Weird people are putting Jonah Hill and Mikey in the same camp. Jonah Hill is way cooler than Mikey Alfred. I've always thought Mikey was the worst, but when that interview came out talking shit on Spike Jones, that was the final straw. Hopefully he gets blacklisted from Hollywood.

Hollywood has to know who Mikey is to blacklist him

Re: Jonah.   People give him shit about his lack of talent, but that’s totally relatable.   Not everyone who loves skateboarding is required to have talent at it and he clearly has always had an affection for it.   I suck, but I’ve thought about few things more in the past 20 years of my life

Sure, Mid90s was a little bit of a masturbatory attempt to recast his life as a good skater, rather than embrace true/interesting/relatable version, but he’s never come across as exploitative of skateboarding and if it got him a seat at the cool skaters table for a little, bless up my friend.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: shouldn't on May 22, 2022, 01:12:55 AM
Weird people are putting Jonah Hill and Mikey in the same camp. Jonah Hill is way cooler than Mikey Alfred. I've always thought Mikey was the worst, but when that interview came out talking shit on Spike Jones, that was the final straw. Hopefully he gets blacklisted from Hollywood.
to me he just seems like that bitter little bitch that wants to be the first one to do things that people already did. it’s like he’s mad at spike/jonah for being successful in film and, especially jealous of them being more successful in skateboarding related videos/brands. even as terrible as mid 90’s was, somehow he made an even shittier movie and now wants to bite back at the hand that fed him through all of that and got his name out there. they literally made that movie, did interviews together that no one would have watched if jonah wasn’t in them, and then right after all that when he comes out with his own shitty movie he calls him out? seems like clout seeking to me and wanting to call out people more famous than you that helped you come up in order to get your name out there. ultimate cockroach type shit.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 22, 2022, 02:02:04 AM
Mikey Alfred seems like the most insufferable person in skating right now. I can't even listen to dude talk. Worst dude on and off the board
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on May 22, 2022, 02:58:09 AM
There’s something powerful about the triangle shape

(https://i.imgur.com/QM9KfTw.png)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: LB on May 22, 2022, 04:04:38 AM
this thread is bittersweet.
its great cos mikey albert is getting roasted but also awful cos its mikey albert
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: JANUS on May 22, 2022, 04:15:50 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/6h2nyc.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Diamond_Dallas_Pudge on May 22, 2022, 05:14:47 AM
Remember when people who actually skated owned companies?

Ed T breaking his neck, Jamie blowing out his knees.

Then you got this kid talking about Doritos.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SodaJerk on May 22, 2022, 05:33:17 AM
Mikey Alfred seems like the most insufferable person in skating right now. I can't even listen to dude talk. Worst dude on and off the board
He actually skates?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on May 22, 2022, 06:05:15 AM
I don't usually hate people, but...

(https://i.imgflip.com/6h2nyc.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on May 22, 2022, 08:07:08 AM
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Weird people are putting Jonah Hill and Mikey in the same camp. Jonah Hill is way cooler than Mikey Alfred. I've always thought Mikey was the worst, but when that interview came out talking shit on Spike Jones, that was the final straw. Hopefully he gets blacklisted from Hollywood.
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Hollywood has to know who Mikey is to blacklist him

Re: Jonah.   People give him shit about his lack of talent, but that’s totally relatable.   Not everyone who loves skateboarding is required to have talent at it and he clearly has always had an affection for it.   I suck, but I’ve thought about few things more in the past 20 years of my life

Sure, Mid90s was a little bit of a masturbatory attempt to recast his life as a good skater, rather than embrace true/interesting/relatable version, but he’s never come across as exploitative of skateboarding and if it got him a seat at the cool skaters table for a little, bless up my friend.
Nah man I think Jonah Hill is a culture vulture. Look at the way he gave up on skating and now acts like he’s mr surf, posting ig clips of himself flagrantly burning people at malibu. I know first point is a kook circus drop-in fest but if you live right down the road maybe you could manage to get a clip where you aren’t just ruining somebody else’s wave? Other people manage to do it somehow.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dallou on May 22, 2022, 08:25:42 AM
Jonah considered himself a skater for the mid 90 promo and stopped when the blu-ray came out
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: LostBearings on May 22, 2022, 08:30:39 AM
Mikey only wears clothes like that because he knows if he dressed like a skater it'd be stolen valor
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on May 22, 2022, 08:35:05 AM
Murky Alfred is the apex predator of useless capitalism
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HisNameIsntWarren on May 22, 2022, 08:41:12 AM
Tyshawns about to steal that whole team  8)
Man just get Zach on that new shit. He’s wasting his talent on IC and I feel like he knows it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Cool Ceith on May 22, 2022, 10:09:01 AM
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There’s something powerful about the triangle shape
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I'm so mad that I immediately got these references   :-\
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 22, 2022, 10:17:27 AM
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There’s something powerful about the triangle shape
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I'm so mad that I immediately got these references   :-\

That guy looks like Abdullah the Butcher after liposuction.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: RCB3 on May 22, 2022, 10:18:24 AM
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Weird people are putting Jonah Hill and Mikey in the same camp. Jonah Hill is way cooler than Mikey Alfred. I've always thought Mikey was the worst, but when that interview came out talking shit on Spike Jones, that was the final straw. Hopefully he gets blacklisted from Hollywood.
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Hollywood has to know who Mikey is to blacklist him

Re: Jonah.   People give him shit about his lack of talent, but that’s totally relatable.   Not everyone who loves skateboarding is required to have talent at it and he clearly has always had an affection for it.   I suck, but I’ve thought about few things more in the past 20 years of my life

Sure, Mid90s was a little bit of a masturbatory attempt to recast his life as a good skater, rather than embrace true/interesting/relatable version, but he’s never come across as exploitative of skateboarding and if it got him a seat at the cool skaters table for a little, bless up my friend.
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Nah man I think Jonah Hill is a culture vulture. Look at the way he gave up on skating and now acts like he’s mr surf, posting ig clips of himself flagrantly burning people at malibu. I know first point is a kook circus drop-in fest but if you live right down the road maybe you could manage to get a clip where you aren’t just ruining somebody else’s wave? Other people manage to do it somehow.

I don't keep up with him on social media or anything, so that could be true. I just think at least Jonah's done legit stuff in his life. Mikey is just surrounded by yes people who inflate his ego. It's as if anything he touches he thinks is gold even when it's utter trash. The lack of humility will hopefully be his downfall. Maybe their next full length they'll include a free golf ball and sell it for $50 and Hollywood kids will eat it up and he's really a genius and I'm just bitter. Could be true as well.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: skate_or_dingus on May 22, 2022, 10:20:16 AM
 Yeah I despised this dude's entire presence the first time I saw him (on Weekend Buzz), and he somehow doubles down on the kook factor everytime a camera is pointed at him.
 Dr. Urkle Huxtable looking motherfucker.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 22, 2022, 11:08:32 AM
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Mikey Alfred seems like the most insufferable person in skating right now. I can't even listen to dude talk. Worst dude on and off the board
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He actually skates?

I thought I saw some b roll clips of him skating before but I could be mistaken. If so, worst dude off the board haha.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fs1/2cab on May 22, 2022, 11:20:09 AM
Jonah Hill always makes me laugh.
Even if he isn't in a funny movie.

Sorry Jonah
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: OldSkater on May 22, 2022, 01:32:04 PM
There’s something powerful about the triangle shape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrHUzHWJFf0


SHIT like 4 people beat me to it lol
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mamba on May 22, 2022, 01:39:53 PM
Mikey Alfred is a good example why skateboarding still needs gatekeeping.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: apply today on May 22, 2022, 02:21:29 PM
"I drew this dinosaur on a piece of tracing paper" ???
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Buttholesurfer on May 22, 2022, 02:29:08 PM
My mans Mikey look like Al Roker after his lap band surgery.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jgonzalez on May 22, 2022, 02:44:36 PM
(https://d28hgpri8am2if.cloudfront.net/author_images/2332/al-roker-1571136.jpg)

This would be a sick class photo deck

Best thing about Mikey Alfred is his last name makes me think of Alfredo then I get hungry. Been pan frying chicken breasts a lot these days on my cast iron skillets. Delicious.

Anyone have one of those grilling cast iron skillets. With the grooves. Seems worth it but idk
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Yonnycage on May 22, 2022, 02:50:18 PM
(https://d28hgpri8am2if.cloudfront.net/author_images/2332/al-roker-1571136.jpg)

This would be a sick class photo deck

Best thing about Mikey Alfred is his last name makes me think of Alfredo then I get hungry. Been pan frying chicken breasts a lot these days on my cast iron skillets. Delicious.

Anyone have one of those grilling cast iron skillets. With the grooves. Seems worth it but idk

Hell yeah brother boneless/skinless breasts are amazing on those. Season those bitches up with some garlic and cajun powder, few chili flakes. Chef’s kiss.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on May 22, 2022, 03:39:26 PM
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There’s something powerful about the triangle shape
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrHUzHWJFf0


SHIT like 4 people beat me to it lol
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Wait... Those are really examples of the art he uses for his brand???

Edit: I just checkes their website out and those graphics look like Napoleon Dynamite drew them, which is actually an homage to Mikey's favorite film. That's some meta 4D chess he's playing.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on May 22, 2022, 04:05:54 PM
(https://d28hgpri8am2if.cloudfront.net/author_images/2332/al-roker-1571136.jpg)

This would be a sick class photo deck

Best thing about Mikey Alfred is his last name makes me think of Alfredo then I get hungry. Been pan frying chicken breasts a lot these days on my cast iron skillets. Delicious.

Anyone have one of those grilling cast iron skillets. With the grooves. Seems worth it but idk

Man I tried to talk my girlfriend into us getting one from bed bath and beyond and she was like no just get a normal skillet. So we got a normal skillet but damn I wanted the one with the grill grooves. I have a new cast iron but I need to season it and I don’t remember how. I’ve only done it once forever ago then that one got ruined from an ex and I got a new one but haven’t seasoned it. It’s been like 7 years just chilling brand new
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: hadouken on May 22, 2022, 04:49:21 PM
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This would be a sick class photo deck

Best thing about Mikey Alfred is his last name makes me think of Alfredo then I get hungry. Been pan frying chicken breasts a lot these days on my cast iron skillets. Delicious.

Anyone have one of those grilling cast iron skillets. With the grooves. Seems worth it but idk
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Man I tried to talk my girlfriend into us getting one from bed bath and beyond and she was like no just get a normal skillet. So we got a normal skillet but damn I wanted the one with the grill grooves. I have a new cast iron but I need to season it and I don’t remember how. I’ve only done it once forever ago then that one got ruined from an ex and I got a new one but haven’t seasoned it. It’s been like 7 years just chilling brand new

Cast iron seasoning is serious business and everyone has their own approach to it, but its fairly universally accepted that a good, easy start is to just cook up a bunch of bacon in it. That's a great starting point.

Don't get too hung up on getting it perfect first time, 'cos you'll still have to do it every few months / years depending how much you use it. I personally like to keep mine really clean, so I'm seasoning it fairly regularly.

Cast iron cooking rules, just don't get confused by all the internet geekery around them.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Shifty Flip on May 22, 2022, 05:25:58 PM
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(https://d28hgpri8am2if.cloudfront.net/author_images/2332/al-roker-1571136.jpg)

This would be a sick class photo deck

Best thing about Mikey Alfred is his last name makes me think of Alfredo then I get hungry. Been pan frying chicken breasts a lot these days on my cast iron skillets. Delicious.

Anyone have one of those grilling cast iron skillets. With the grooves. Seems worth it but idk
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Hell yeah brother boneless/skinless breasts are amazing on those. Season those bitches up with some garlic and cajun powder, few chili flakes. Chef’s kiss.

skinsideup neverforget
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on May 22, 2022, 05:42:15 PM
Cast irons are chill, I have like 3. One thing that sucks tho is sometimes one of them really does get fucked up and I have to reseason it. Then I don’t use it for a while. But it’s cool that you can pretty much beat them to shit and always just scrub the fuck out of it, hell you could even take a sander to it if you want, and just season it again. They can be endlessly revived. Which is not so true with a lot of other materials.

I know a few people who use soap on em, and I kinda wanna try it.

I’m not super precious about seasoning. But sometimes it’ll like smell bad or have rust or right now I have carbon bits flaking off of one because I think I slow cooked something hella acidic in it (which is a bit of a cast iron kryptonite). So there are a few sticking points (no pun intended), but overall cast iron is the shit.

I also wanna try carbon steel which is like the same basic vibe but a bit lighter.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on May 22, 2022, 06:42:55 PM
Cast irons are chill, I have like 3. One thing that sucks tho is sometimes one of them really does get fucked up and I have to reseason it. Then I don’t use it for a while. But it’s cool that you can pretty much beat them to shit and always just scrub the fuck out of it, hell you could even take a sander to it if you want, and just season it again. They can be endlessly revived. Which is not so true with a lot of other materials.

I know a few people who use soap on em, and I kinda wanna try it.

I’m not super precious about seasoning. But sometimes it’ll like smell bad or have rust or right now I have carbon bits flaking off of one because I think I slow cooked something hella acidic in it (which is a bit of a cast iron kryptonite). So there are a few sticking points (no pun intended), but overall cast iron is the shit.

I also wanna try carbon steel which is like the same basic vibe but a bit lighter.

The Lodge site actually says to use Dawn dish soap to clean them. Just put a drop on the brush and clean it and then dry it really well and you're off and running. I cook with mine all the time and use soap to clean it and it is totally fine.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sometimeperhaps on May 22, 2022, 07:17:23 PM
I always heard not to use soap to wash them, but recently saw a video mentioning that soaps a few decades ago were bad for it, but now the formulation is different so it’s not the case.

Sometimes I’ll use salt to remove residue because it’s acts as an abrasive. Mostly after I’ve cooked something with sauce.

As for seasoning, cooking bacon is always a good way to get things going.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on May 22, 2022, 07:44:42 PM
It’s not the soap that kills them as much as not thoroughly drying them. I don’t soap mine much but I clean em under water with a brush then wipe em down, pop em on the hot plate for a minute to steam the rest off, give it a dry wipe down and put those cunts away
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on May 22, 2022, 07:57:32 PM
i ended up skating with this guy like 7 years ago cause my old roommates were friends with him at the time. for some reason i was trying to kick flip over some double set rail and he just started filming it (after i broke my ankle my kick flips are rocket as all hell) the whole time he was really tight, telling me i got it after every try. i ended up being over it but it was refreshing filming with a stranger in la that was supportive n shit. that was the first and last time i’ve ever met him but he was a really good dude. sounds like whatever fame that came about got to his head. everything i’ve seen or heard of him since then straight up seems like it’s a different person
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rukes on May 22, 2022, 08:56:47 PM
I've got a cast iron skillet with the grooves, but it rarely gets used.

And I use soap now and again on our regular cast iron skillet. Sometimes though I clean it just by giving it a good wipe out with a dry piece of towel. Just don't go crazy cleaning them and you'll be fine.

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jgonzalez on May 22, 2022, 09:36:35 PM
pretty stoked to see all the cast iron heads pop up in this thread lol

From what I understand, some soap is ok. but dry and season it real quick (napkin wipe a dry skillet with some canola/avocado/vegetable oil and put it on heat til it smokes) I normally rinse with hot water once the pan has cooled from cooking. scrub with some steel wool then seasoning time.

to season a pan for the first time I put a lot of oil then bake it for some time. I stand behind the bacon move. recently been cooking bacon in my pans and it jolted the nonstick abilities into the pans. they were good already. i've been all cast iron lately.

garlic powder, cajun spice and some chili flakes sounds good. thanks for the suggestion. would go well with the creaminess of the mikey alfredo

I want the grill groove pan to make steaks, chicken breasts, burgers, grilled cheese, etc.

to clean my pans, well I tried this once and it worked well so far. I put my dirty pan into some coals after a bbq and let the coals burn the caked on grime off. seemed to work but I'm gonna do another round on this one pan I have.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: matt_2993 on May 22, 2022, 10:28:19 PM
Only rule to cast iron is to realize you really can't fuck it up.  You can treat it nice but you really can't fuck it up.

Soap and sponge? Go for it just dry that bitch and put it back on the burner with a little oil after to ensure its truly dry and good to store.

Your seasoning ain't what you hoped for? Who gives a fuck do it again you can't hurt it.

Manage to truly fuck it up somehow? Just scrub the bitch down reseason and you're back ready.

Anyone telling you to avoid citrus can also fuck off. Toss this tomatoes in dude just treat it proper in response ya know. 

I hope you all get after some proper sheperds pie real soon
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Doom patrol on May 23, 2022, 12:35:39 AM
I've been a basic bitch Teflon Don for a long time but have been reading about how fucking bad that shit is for you and am keen to get off it. Been a little nervous about pulling the trigger on that iron but this thread has been informative and reassuring, think I'm gonna do it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: backside_reacharound on May 23, 2022, 01:36:48 AM
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This would be a sick class photo deck

Best thing about Mikey Alfred is his last name makes me think of Alfredo then I get hungry. Been pan frying chicken breasts a lot these days on my cast iron skillets. Delicious.

Anyone have one of those grilling cast iron skillets. With the grooves. Seems worth it but idk
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Hell yeah brother boneless/skinless breasts are amazing on those. Season those bitches up with some garlic and cajun powder, few chili flakes. Chef’s kiss.

Cast iron with the grooves is dumb as fuck, it gives you the lines you'd get on a grill with zero of the other benefits of cooking on a grill. If you're using cast iron, just use the regular pan, makes it easier to baste while you're cooking.

Boneless/skinless chicken breasts are the a pathetic white american culinary abomination. Is this weight watchers? If you're dead set on the breast at the very least leave the skin on, there is fat between the skin and the meat that renders when when you cook it so at least you get SOME flavor. Better yet, toss some thighs on, bone-in, skin on.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeapsCool on May 23, 2022, 01:58:39 AM
Tyshawn calls IC the worst brand in skateboarding and these middle age fucks wanna talk about cast iron skillets? Some of the best skate gossip in a minute and you’re fucking it up.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Prostate Exam on May 23, 2022, 02:59:54 AM
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Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: ok boomer on May 23, 2022, 04:13:57 AM
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Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: warmonke on May 23, 2022, 04:17:24 AM
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geeza looks like a budget ru paul
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on May 23, 2022, 05:15:33 AM
I love that someone I love, hates someone I hate. I feel safety and validation in my hatred now.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SHAQUEEFA on May 23, 2022, 05:55:39 AM
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I'm so mad that I immediately got these references   :-\
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That guy looks like Abdullah the Butcher after liposuction.

ABDULLAH!!!!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: T4T on May 23, 2022, 07:28:14 AM
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geeza looks like a budget ru paul
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: tom on May 23, 2022, 08:42:24 AM
I had to throw out all of my Teflon coated pots and pans after watching “Dark Waters” starring Mark Ruffalo. I went all in on cast iron right away
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on May 23, 2022, 08:55:47 AM
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All day, every day.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Donkey Lips on May 23, 2022, 09:16:38 AM
Any new Lodge pans seem to take forever to get seasoned right but they're fucking great when you get 'em broken in.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: alex on May 23, 2022, 09:27:19 AM
I've got one of the griddle made cast iron situations that's flat on one side and has the grill grates/grooves on the other side. Have really only ever used the non-flat side for like bulgogi or fajitas and even then it didn't add much.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: doublesteveburger on May 23, 2022, 09:49:14 AM
i love cooking potatoes on my pan then when they're almost ready i add strips of bacon


once the bacon is done the potatoes are perfect and mikey alfred fucking sucks
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HyenaChaser on May 23, 2022, 10:12:09 AM
I used to clean cast iron dutch ovens after we would bake a sheet of brownies or something like that which inevitably baked on some sticky goo. Our tried and true method was a clean rag and lots of salt. Using the salt as an abrasive worked really well to clean the cast iron and maintained the seasoning, though you will need a wide mouth trash can to take on the salted goo.

That Tyshawn got a check cut from that North Hollywood movie and then comes back around to roast Malfred is delightful. As the people with kids say, it sparks joy.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 23, 2022, 10:15:36 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/0BGCBQC/iron-mine.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6vWHvNH)
All day, every day.

Hell yeah, now I want to post my collection....

Edit: Had to Jump in. Mostly lodge but threw in the Dutch oven (enamel coated cast iron) and the carbon steel with cast iron handle. The Lodge grill press is the newest addition, perfect for sandos or smash burgers.

I also save all of my bacon grease in the fridge, I use it for cooking or seasoning my cast irons. Worth its weight in gold.

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Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: burm on May 23, 2022, 10:58:39 AM
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This would be a sick class photo deck

Best thing about Mikey Alfred is his last name makes me think of Alfredo then I get hungry. Been pan frying chicken breasts a lot these days on my cast iron skillets. Delicious.

Anyone have one of those grilling cast iron skillets. With the grooves. Seems worth it but idk
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Hell yeah brother boneless/skinless breasts are amazing on those. Season those bitches up with some garlic and cajun powder, few chili flakes. Chef’s kiss.
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Cast iron with the grooves is dumb as fuck, it gives you the lines you'd get on a grill with zero of the other benefits of cooking on a grill. If you're using cast iron, just use the regular pan, makes it easier to baste while you're cooking.

Yeah my only cast iron pan is a grooved one and I haven’t figured any use for it since I don’t cook meat. I once tried to do halloumi on it and it got pretty stuck. Couple of times I put it in my gas-powered pizza oven to cook salmon, but it didn’t work well because the handle made it impossible to turn half way through.

I probably need to get a proper one too since I’m tired of throwing out pans with the teflon flaking off.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: intendedreceivers on May 23, 2022, 11:13:21 AM
Bacon generally starts on a cold pan and is prone to sticking, so you’re losing seasoning every time you have to scrape it out. Build it up first with vegetables, lots of oil, and make sure you preheat it. The high heat and oil are what polymerize to create the nonstick seasoning layer. Caramelized onions are a great starter.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on May 23, 2022, 11:37:50 AM
Any new Lodge pans seem to take forever to get seasoned right but they're fucking great when you get 'em broken in.

Just skip the intermediate Lodge phase of cast iron ownership and get the Le Creuset Signature Skillet. The 10 1/4” is what I use to cook almost everything. There’s no pan I’ve ever owned that I love and use more. If I lost it today, I'd buy another one at retail tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Frutsiseltzer on May 23, 2022, 12:05:13 PM
Yessssssss
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: R3dBullRox420 on May 23, 2022, 12:10:11 PM
Tyshawn calls IC the worst brand in skateboarding and these middle age fucks wanna talk about cast iron skillets? Some of the best skate gossip in a minute and you’re fucking it up.

It's a tradition that we carry on with an unrelated tangent in an effort to troll all the toxic ppl that insist on beating a head horse.

The mystique of cast iron care is super convoluted but I found this video to be straightforward and unpretentious

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGSDqXjoAsM
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: matt_2993 on May 23, 2022, 12:13:25 PM
Another great cleaning technique when you've got a bunch of sticky shit after cooking is to just simplify boil water in it. Breaks down just about everything and then easily cleans up
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 23, 2022, 12:16:02 PM
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Tyshawn calls IC the worst brand in skateboarding and these middle age fucks wanna talk about cast iron skillets? Some of the best skate gossip in a minute and you’re fucking it up.
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It's a tradition that we carry on with an unrelated tangent in an effort to troll all the toxic ppl that insist on beating a head horse.

The mystique of cast iron care is super convoluted but I found this video to be straightforward and unpretentious

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGSDqXjoAsM

The cognitive dissonance between "Cast iron is a miracle and will last hundreds of years" and "If you do ANYTHING wrong your cast iron is RUINED" has always been really funny to me. I'm not precious with mine at all because I know that it can always be fixed/saved/whatever. People make it way more complicated than it needs to be!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on May 23, 2022, 12:17:02 PM
Ok the talk about soap in a cast iron has given me some guts, I’m gonna try it. The worst thing that could happen is I just decide to clean it and season it again, not the worst thing in the world. It’s just sometimes I’m lazy and I don’t wanna spend the time.

Funny to see some conflicting advice on bacon. I guess I can see where some of the sticking from bacon could lead to an uneven seasoning, but I definitely had fine luck just cooking some bacon, wiping the pan down, and heating it up for a quick-n-dirty seasoning refresher. It’s not as good as a really scientific seasoning sesh but it’s good enough for me and it’s a lot faster than heating an oven up to 500 or whatever.

BUT my mom is retired and she recently took the time to go mad scientist on her cast iron. She did like *several* rounds of flax seed oil and oven. Those things are like slicker than an ice skating rink now.

Yup cast iron rules, there are many ways to enjoy it. But for real I wanna hear some feedback on carbon steel! Anybody fuck with it?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: artskool on May 23, 2022, 12:24:22 PM
I have owned a le cruset for 15 years, and use it daily. It is 100% worth the cost.

I want more public beefs in skateboarding. This one isn't even challenging enough to consider though. Imagine preferring Mickey Alfred over Tyshawn.

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Just skip the intermediate Lodge phase of cast iron ownership and get the Le Creuset Signature Skillet. The 10 1/4” is what I use to cook almost everything. There’s no pan I’ve ever owned that I love and use more. If I lost it today, I'd buy another one at retail tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 23, 2022, 12:36:05 PM
Ok the talk about soap in a cast iron has given me some guts, I’m gonna try it. The worst thing that could happen is I just decide to clean it and season it again, not the worst thing in the world. It’s just sometimes I’m lazy and I don’t wanna spend the time.

Funny to see some conflicting advice on bacon. I guess I can see where some of the sticking from bacon could lead to an uneven seasoning, but I definitely had fine luck just cooking some bacon, wiping the pan down, and heating it up for a quick-n-dirty seasoning refresher. It’s not as good as a really scientific seasoning sesh but it’s good enough for me and it’s a lot faster than heating an oven up to 500 or whatever.

BUT my mom is retired and she recently took the time to go mad scientist on her cast iron. She did like *several* rounds of flax seed oil and oven. Those things are like slicker than an ice skating rink now.

Yup cast iron rules, there are many ways to enjoy it. But for real I wanna hear some feedback on carbon steel! Anybody fuck with it?

We just added a carbon steel to the arsenal, so far really liking it a lot. We use it most often almost like a wok because it's pretty deep and has steep sides. I do a lot of stir fry noodle dishes in it or fried rice type stuff.

I don't think most people know you shouldn't heat non-stick pans above medium-high otherwise that PFAS shit will start leeching into your food. Carbon Steel is 90% of the way to non-stick and way more versatile in my opinion.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: drewdown on May 23, 2022, 12:37:28 PM
Carbon steel sucks man, it will rust if you look at it sideways. 
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: thebacker on May 23, 2022, 12:38:33 PM
mikey alfred 100% sleeps like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNr7nXvntO8
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Mean salto on May 23, 2022, 12:40:28 PM
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Ok the talk about soap in a cast iron has given me some guts, I’m gonna try it. The worst thing that could happen is I just decide to clean it and season it again, not the worst thing in the world. It’s just sometimes I’m lazy and I don’t wanna spend the time.

Funny to see some conflicting advice on bacon. I guess I can see where some of the sticking from bacon could lead to an uneven seasoning, but I definitely had fine luck just cooking some bacon, wiping the pan down, and heating it up for a quick-n-dirty seasoning refresher. It’s not as good as a really scientific seasoning sesh but it’s good enough for me and it’s a lot faster than heating an oven up to 500 or whatever.

BUT my mom is retired and she recently took the time to go mad scientist on her cast iron. She did like *several* rounds of flax seed oil and oven. Those things are like slicker than an ice skating rink now.

Yup cast iron rules, there are many ways to enjoy it. But for real I wanna hear some feedback on carbon steel! Anybody fuck with it?
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We just added a carbon steel to the arsenal, so far really liking it a lot. We use it most often almost like a wok because it's pretty deep and has steep sides. I do a lot of stir fry noodle dishes in it or fried rice type stuff.

I don't think most people know you shouldn't heat non-stick pans above medium-high otherwise that PFAS shit will start leeching into your food. Carbon Steel is 90% of the way to non-stick and way more versatile in my opinion.
You should want the non stick chemicals in your food. That way you don't get constipated duh.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DCLOVE on May 23, 2022, 12:44:38 PM
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Just skip the intermediate Lodge phase of cast iron ownership and get the Le Creuset Signature Skillet. The 10 1/4” is what I use to cook almost everything. There’s no pan I’ve ever owned that I love and use more. If I lost it today, I'd buy another one at retail tomorrow.

I ain’t got la creuset money but I’d love one. I agree with you on the bacon thing tho. I’ve found just greasing it heavily with lard and then baking it at 450 for 30 min when you first get a new one is actually pretty great. Carmelized onions is genius too. It’s hard to get away from lodge sometimes cause you can get them for so cheap at target.

The grill pan is great for stuff like chicken and skirt steaks where you want better char and live in apartment that doesn’t allow grills tho . Plus they the reversible ones so you can just pre heat it in the oven and have a great place to do smash burgers and pancakes!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on May 23, 2022, 01:04:59 PM
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Any new Lodge pans seem to take forever to get seasoned right but they're fucking great when you get 'em broken in.
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Just skip the intermediate Lodge phase of cast iron ownership and get the Le Creuset Signature Skillet. The 10 1/4” is what I use to cook almost everything. There’s no pan I’ve ever owned that I love and use more. If I lost it today, I'd buy another one at retail tomorrow.
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I ain’t got la creuset money but I’d love one. I agree with you on the bacon thing tho. I’ve found just greasing it heavily with lard and then baking it at 450 for 30 min when you first get a new one is actually pretty great. Carmelized onions is genius too. It’s hard to get away from lodge sometimes cause you can get them for so cheap at target.

The grill pan is great for stuff like chicken and skirt steaks where you want better char and live in apartment that doesn’t allow grills tho . Plus they the reversible ones so you can just pre heat it in the oven and have a great place to do smash burgers and pancakes!

I totally understand. I was fortunate to score mine at a thrift store, but I see even used ones sell for $100 or more now, where they used to be $40-60. If you can ever afford it, it’s absolutely money well spent and will last you a lifetime.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DCLOVE on May 23, 2022, 01:18:24 PM
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Just skip the intermediate Lodge phase of cast iron ownership and get the Le Creuset Signature Skillet. The 10 1/4” is what I use to cook almost everything. There’s no pan I’ve ever owned that I love and use more. If I lost it today, I'd buy another one at retail tomorrow.
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I ain’t got la creuset money but I’d love one. I agree with you on the bacon thing tho. I’ve found just greasing it heavily with lard and then baking it at 450 for 30 min when you first get a new one is actually pretty great. Carmelized onions is genius too. It’s hard to get away from lodge sometimes cause you can get them for so cheap at target.

The grill pan is great for stuff like chicken and skirt steaks where you want better char and live in apartment that doesn’t allow grills tho . Plus they the reversible ones so you can just pre heat it in the oven and have a great place to do smash burgers and pancakes!
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I totally understand. I was fortunate to score mine at a thrift store, but I see even used ones sell for $100 or more now, where they used to be $40-60. If you can ever afford it, it’s absolutely money well spent and will last you a lifetime.

It’s definitely on my Christmas list for family this year . I always just say get me something for the kitchen . Last year I got a vitamix and that Shit was a game changer.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lurker_and_poster on May 23, 2022, 02:01:15 PM
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Ok the talk about soap in a cast iron has given me some guts, I’m gonna try it. The worst thing that could happen is I just decide to clean it and season it again, not the worst thing in the world. It’s just sometimes I’m lazy and I don’t wanna spend the time.

Funny to see some conflicting advice on bacon. I guess I can see where some of the sticking from bacon could lead to an uneven seasoning, but I definitely had fine luck just cooking some bacon, wiping the pan down, and heating it up for a quick-n-dirty seasoning refresher. It’s not as good as a really scientific seasoning sesh but it’s good enough for me and it’s a lot faster than heating an oven up to 500 or whatever.

BUT my mom is retired and she recently took the time to go mad scientist on her cast iron. She did like *several* rounds of flax seed oil and oven. Those things are like slicker than an ice skating rink now.

Yup cast iron rules, there are many ways to enjoy it. But for real I wanna hear some feedback on carbon steel! Anybody fuck with it?
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We just added a carbon steel to the arsenal, so far really liking it a lot. We use it most often almost like a wok because it's pretty deep and has steep sides. I do a lot of stir fry noodle dishes in it or fried rice type stuff.

I don't think most people know you shouldn't heat non-stick pans above medium-high otherwise that PFAS shit will start leeching into your food. Carbon Steel is 90% of the way to non-stick and way more versatile in my opinion.

If you really want to fuck with Carbon - check the de buyer carbon plus - buy at a french skate trip, treat her well, burn in proper and you will have a great roasting aroma.

Generaly my weapon of choice is my old cast iron pane
BUT Swiss company Spring have a 3 layer non-stick coating Frying pan called Vulcano intense pro.
Coating is PFOA free instead they use particles of genuine Swiss rock crystal straight from the alps,
its Swiss and its sound cheesy - but if you want a non coating pan, this one works really good.
And after 5 years they coat you your pan again.
perfekt for any egg dish - or frying vegetables with just a tiny drop of oil.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lowcalcium on May 23, 2022, 02:04:58 PM
Who does better kickflips, Mikey Alfred or Jonah Hill?

I still have never seen video evidence of Jonah Hill doing a kickflip...only that sketchy photograph. Until he releases video evidence, I don't believe it.


P.S. Moneyball is great movie
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lurker_and_poster on May 23, 2022, 02:09:39 PM
I've got one of the griddle made cast iron situations that's flat on one side and has the grill grates/grooves on the other side. Have really only ever used the non-flat side for like bulgogi or fajitas and even then it didn't add much.

now I really  want some bimbap with Sigumchi Namul, kimchi, gochujang, and bulgogi.... and of course some raw egg. 
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Post by: stevedave on May 23, 2022, 02:19:21 PM
ever since I can remember as a kid, we had a set of the light blue Le Creuset pots/pans that I believe my parents got for their wedding, years before I was even born.  I was born in 1973.  Here it is, 2022, and I STILL have the dutch oven and a a saucepan from that original set - they're over 50 years old and still are the best cookware I've ever had. 
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: the canadian suit on May 23, 2022, 02:27:38 PM
I found a le creuset small size Dutch oven at a thrift store for $6.00 and it’s in great shape, def top 5 thrift finds

Hella confused by the dude who said he doesn’t know what to cook on it because he doesn’t eat meat. I use my cast iron to make bomb vegetables! Start low with oil until they get softish and then crank high at the end when you drop some butter in and let ‘em get a little charred. Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ are a company that pretended to have hype around them. Honest opinion. Nobody ever cared.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on May 23, 2022, 02:40:41 PM
You don't need to eat meat to love cast iron. I've been vegetarian for ~25 years and I use my cast iron at least once a day to cook eggs. If I were scrambling tofu, I'd use the same pan in the same way. Anything you cook in a pan, you can cook with cast iron!

What are everyone's thoughts on "Ceramic" coated pans? It seems like ceramic in this case is a misnomer and there's still a polymer coating being applied to the pan, but it's incredibly hard to get a straight answer about what "ceramic" is supposed to mean here. They claim to be PFOA-free, but we all know that we're ~10-15 years away from finding that whichever polymer we are told was safe to be lowering our sperm counts to 0. In my case, we bought some Costco Ceramic pans. They work well enough, but definitely leave me wondering.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Donkey Lips on May 23, 2022, 04:22:08 PM
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Just skip the intermediate Lodge phase of cast iron ownership and get the Le Creuset Signature Skillet. The 10 1/4” is what I use to cook almost everything. There’s no pan I’ve ever owned that I love and use more. If I lost it today, I'd buy another one at retail tomorrow.
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I ain’t got la creuset money but I’d love one. I agree with you on the bacon thing tho. I’ve found just greasing it heavily with lard and then baking it at 450 for 30 min when you first get a new one is actually pretty great. Carmelized onions is genius too. It’s hard to get away from lodge sometimes cause you can get them for so cheap at target.

The grill pan is great for stuff like chicken and skirt steaks where you want better char and live in apartment that doesn’t allow grills tho . Plus they the reversible ones so you can just pre heat it in the oven and have a great place to do smash burgers and pancakes!
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I totally understand. I was fortunate to score mine at a thrift store, but I see even used ones sell for $100 or more now, where they used to be $40-60. If you can ever afford it, it’s absolutely money well spent and will last you a lifetime.

You're right. It might be time to just step up for one of their Dutch ovens. Gonna own it for life so might as well.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 23, 2022, 04:43:25 PM
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Any new Lodge pans seem to take forever to get seasoned right but they're fucking great when you get 'em broken in.
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Just skip the intermediate Lodge phase of cast iron ownership and get the Le Creuset Signature Skillet. The 10 1/4” is what I use to cook almost everything. There’s no pan I’ve ever owned that I love and use more. If I lost it today, I'd buy another one at retail tomorrow.
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I ain’t got la creuset money but I’d love one. I agree with you on the bacon thing tho. I’ve found just greasing it heavily with lard and then baking it at 450 for 30 min when you first get a new one is actually pretty great. Carmelized onions is genius too. It’s hard to get away from lodge sometimes cause you can get them for so cheap at target.

The grill pan is great for stuff like chicken and skirt steaks where you want better char and live in apartment that doesn’t allow grills tho . Plus they the reversible ones so you can just pre heat it in the oven and have a great place to do smash burgers and pancakes!
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I totally understand. I was fortunate to score mine at a thrift store, but I see even used ones sell for $100 or more now, where they used to be $40-60. If you can ever afford it, it’s absolutely money well spent and will last you a lifetime.
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You're right. It might be time to just step up for one of their Dutch ovens. Gonna own it for life so might as well.

I own one and it’s amazing. You get a workout just washing it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Made In China on May 23, 2022, 04:55:36 PM
I have a standard cast iron pan and my housemate has the slightly bigger version. I'm not a meat eater but I still cook damn near everything in them. Stir fries, eggs, curry, whatever you name it. I've never hit mine with soap and I rarely even use water on them. If what I cooked isn't super caked on or sticky, I'll pour some sea salt on it and rub it down with a paper towel. Then dump all the dirty salt in the trash. It'll scrape off whatever's on it and leave the seasoning looking good.

My other housemate isn't a great cook and more importantly isn't confident in their cooking. They make it a point to never touch our cast iron pans which is kinda funny but something I've always appreciated.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: offkilter on May 23, 2022, 05:05:52 PM
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Who does better kickflips, Mikey Alfred or Jonah Hill?
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I still have never seen video evidence of Jonah Hill doing a kickflip...only that sketchy photograph. Until he releases video evidence, I don't believe it.


P.S. Moneyball is great movie

Have we seen Mikey Alfred do a kickflip or any tricks whatsoever or even stand on a skateboard?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on May 23, 2022, 05:12:51 PM
Although I think it’s sick when skateboarders don’t dress like skateboarders, he’s doing too much. It almost looks like he’s doing a very committed Raphael Saadiq parody.
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Post by: Aatila on May 23, 2022, 05:45:27 PM
Although I think it’s sick when skateboarders don’t dress like skateboarders, he’s doing too much. It almost looks like he’s doing a very committed Raphael Saadiq parody.

Hilarious
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Post by: big_kev_215 on May 23, 2022, 05:45:50 PM
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I still have never seen video evidence of Jonah Hill doing a kickflip...only that sketchy photograph. Until he releases video evidence, I don't believe it.


P.S. Moneyball is great movie

I’m actually a big fan of Jonah Hill’s movies but that whole exchange around the time of Mid 90’s was super awkward.  I think everyone was genuinely excited when he kept talking about how much skating meant to him growing up and how much he loved skating then trying to find any evidence of him actually skating or having any skating ability seemed to require an FBI investigation to produce.  How easy would it have been to hop on a board and do a pop shuvit or something to prove your authenticity and get everyone excited if skating was really that big of a part of your life…

Back to Illegal Civ - the latest Thrasher says something about “Illegal Civ on hold?” - where does that fit into all of this   
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 23, 2022, 07:06:34 PM
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Who does better kickflips, Mikey Alfred or Jonah Hill?
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I still have never seen video evidence of Jonah Hill doing a kickflip...only that sketchy photograph. Until he releases video evidence, I don't believe it.


P.S. Moneyball is great movie

Well Tim Robinson (SNL, Detroiters, Ithink You Should Leave) can definitely skate

http://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd6x_ObF6vn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y (http://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd6x_ObF6vn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y)


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Post by: JANUS on May 23, 2022, 07:28:07 PM
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/woah.gif)
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Post by: MexicanSpaniard on May 23, 2022, 07:38:32 PM
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Any new Lodge pans seem to take forever to get seasoned right but they're fucking great when you get 'em broken in.
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Just skip the intermediate Lodge phase of cast iron ownership and get the Le Creuset Signature Skillet. The 10 1/4” is what I use to cook almost everything. There’s no pan I’ve ever owned that I love and use more. If I lost it today, I'd buy another one at retail tomorrow.

Yes, one part of my divorce that was bullshit was I lost a 4 piece to her and she rarely cooked
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: left knee cap on May 23, 2022, 07:54:12 PM
You don't need to eat meat to love cast iron. I've been vegetarian for ~25 years and I use my cast iron at least once a day to cook eggs. If I were scrambling tofu, I'd use the same pan in the same way. Anything you cook in a pan, you can cook with cast iron!

What are everyone's thoughts on "Ceramic" coated pans? It seems like ceramic in this case is a misnomer and there's still a polymer coating being applied to the pan, but it's incredibly hard to get a straight answer about what "ceramic" is supposed to mean here. They claim to be PFOA-free, but we all know that we're ~10-15 years away from finding that whichever polymer we are told was safe to be lowering our sperm counts to 0. In my case, we bought some Costco Ceramic pans. They work well enough, but definitely leave me wondering.

What's your tofu scramble recipe? I use nutritional yeast, paprika and tumeric + some veggies but wanna hear some other recipes.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on May 23, 2022, 09:13:10 PM
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You don't need to eat meat to love cast iron. I've been vegetarian for ~25 years and I use my cast iron at least once a day to cook eggs. If I were scrambling tofu, I'd use the same pan in the same way. Anything you cook in a pan, you can cook with cast iron!

What are everyone's thoughts on "Ceramic" coated pans? It seems like ceramic in this case is a misnomer and there's still a polymer coating being applied to the pan, but it's incredibly hard to get a straight answer about what "ceramic" is supposed to mean here. They claim to be PFOA-free, but we all know that we're ~10-15 years away from finding that whichever polymer we are told was safe to be lowering our sperm counts to 0. In my case, we bought some Costco Ceramic pans. They work well enough, but definitely leave me wondering.
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What's your tofu scramble recipe? I use nutritional yeast, paprika and tumeric + some veggies but wanna hear some other recipes.

Been a decade since I made it, but I always used this.

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/640267d1-e360-4d1e-8533-442a815f1b5c_1.87623d63389d4bb8a0e5bd1e2fbe4948.jpeg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on May 23, 2022, 10:42:57 PM
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Who does better kickflips, Mikey Alfred or Jonah Hill?
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I still have never seen video evidence of Jonah Hill doing a kickflip...only that sketchy photograph. Until he releases video evidence, I don't believe it.


P.S. Moneyball is great movie
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Well Tim Robinson (SNL, Detroiters, Ithink You Should Leave) can definitely skate

http://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd6x_ObF6vn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y (http://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd6x_ObF6vn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y)


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Yeah he skates with Whitmer Thomas, Douggpound and Spanky a bit
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 24, 2022, 12:32:43 AM
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Who does better kickflips, Mikey Alfred or Jonah Hill?
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I still have never seen video evidence of Jonah Hill doing a kickflip...only that sketchy photograph. Until he releases video evidence, I don't believe it.


P.S. Moneyball is great movie
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Well Tim Robinson (SNL, Detroiters, Ithink You Should Leave) can definitely skate

http://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd6x_ObF6vn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y (http://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd6x_ObF6vn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y)


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Yeah he skates with Whitmer Thomas, Douggpound and Spanky a bit

Whitmer and the worble guys seem like an organic LA fit, as does Jonah meeting the FA/supreme guys on Fairfax…I just wonder how Tim got involved with atiba and all these dudes to start skating.
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Post by: REGS on May 24, 2022, 03:02:29 AM
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Who does better kickflips, Mikey Alfred or Jonah Hill?
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I still have never seen video evidence of Jonah Hill doing a kickflip...only that sketchy photograph. Until he releases video evidence, I don't believe it.


P.S. Moneyball is great movie
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Well Tim Robinson (SNL, Detroiters, Ithink You Should Leave) can definitely skate

http://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd6x_ObF6vn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y (http://www.instagram.com/reel/Cd6x_ObF6vn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y)


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Yeah he skates with Whitmer Thomas, Douggpound and Spanky a bit
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Whitmer and the worble guys seem like an organic LA fit, as does Jonah meeting the FA/supreme guys on Fairfax…I just wonder how Tim got involved with atiba and all these dudes to start skating.

Tim skated already when he was younger. Tim is longtime friends with Blake Anderson who hangs out with Atiba, hence the connection with Atiba/Spanky crew. 
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Owen on May 24, 2022, 04:42:34 AM
I've got a couple of cast iron camp ovens and a fry pan that I use for when I'm camping. It's great being able to put them straight onto the coals of a campfire.

Here I am cooking a stew and some mushrooms :

(https://i.imgur.com/Q96xEXd.jpeg)

My partner has a Le Creuset dutch oven. It's enamel coated caste iron. I love cooking with it. It's so versatile. We use it for stews, soups, roasts, baking bread etc
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: burm on May 24, 2022, 06:49:47 AM
You don't need to eat meat to love cast iron. I've been vegetarian for ~25 years and I use my cast iron at least once a day to cook eggs. If I were scrambling tofu, I'd use the same pan in the same way. Anything you cook in a pan, you can cook with cast iron!

What are everyone's thoughts on "Ceramic" coated pans? It seems like ceramic in this case is a misnomer and there's still a polymer coating being applied to the pan, but it's incredibly hard to get a straight answer about what "ceramic" is supposed to mean here. They claim to be PFOA-free, but we all know that we're ~10-15 years away from finding that whichever polymer we are told was safe to be lowering our sperm counts to 0. In my case, we bought some Costco Ceramic pans. They work well enough, but definitely leave me wondering.
Yeah I get that a regular cast iron pan can be versatile, and I’m especially interested in one now for omelettes because apparently that is the secret, but I was specifically talking about the grooved grill one I have, which I can’t see any other use for except searing nice stripes into something. Maybe I could sear some eggplant or zuccini on it, idk
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sk8punk110 on May 24, 2022, 07:13:41 AM
Tyshawns about to steal that whole team  8)
They can keep em
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: quackquack on May 24, 2022, 08:25:54 AM
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You don't need to eat meat to love cast iron. I've been vegetarian for ~25 years and I use my cast iron at least once a day to cook eggs. If I were scrambling tofu, I'd use the same pan in the same way. Anything you cook in a pan, you can cook with cast iron!

What are everyone's thoughts on "Ceramic" coated pans? It seems like ceramic in this case is a misnomer and there's still a polymer coating being applied to the pan, but it's incredibly hard to get a straight answer about what "ceramic" is supposed to mean here. They claim to be PFOA-free, but we all know that we're ~10-15 years away from finding that whichever polymer we are told was safe to be lowering our sperm counts to 0. In my case, we bought some Costco Ceramic pans. They work well enough, but definitely leave me wondering.
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Yeah I get that a regular cast iron pan can be versatile, and I’m especially interested in one now for omelettes because apparently that is the secret, but I was specifically talking about the grooved grill one I have, which I can’t see any other use for except searing nice stripes into something. Maybe I could sear some eggplant or zuccini on it, idk

Those grooves are great when trying to get char on items with a high-moisture content. All the juice drips away from the contact points.

Red bell peppers is a great case, as is your eggyplant or zuc's.

One of my favorite uses is to make charred green onion puree. Char the green onions and blend them up with salt and olive oil. It's great with raw/cooked beef, on sandwiche, w/e.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: E on May 24, 2022, 08:42:48 AM
How do I post a video from my phone? I have evidence of Mikey Day skating.
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Post by: E on May 24, 2022, 09:15:28 AM
Enjoy, Pals:

https://imgur.com/a/REMN1Se
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Post by: warmonke on May 24, 2022, 09:18:38 AM
Enjoy, Pals:

https://imgur.com/a/REMN1Se
whoa who could've known he'd have such forced style
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Jewel Runner on May 24, 2022, 09:23:47 AM
Enjoy, Pals:

https://imgur.com/a/REMN1Se

Wow that was sick! No hands on the ground the kid's a natural
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Huell Howser on May 24, 2022, 09:24:47 AM
goddammit y'all sparked my interest in cast iron pans. might have to get one soon, where do I even start? lmao
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: FROTHY on May 24, 2022, 09:40:03 AM
I recently threw out some of my nonstick pans and started using nice stainless ones, like this:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2131/5111/products/12Stainless_1-Mobile_1200x1200.jpg?v=1646327242)
I also don't cook with any seed oils, just butter or ghee. Stainless and butter works perfectly, but I also respect the cast iron flow.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 24, 2022, 09:41:28 AM
goddammit y'all sparked my interest in cast iron pans. might have to get one soon, where do I even start? lmao

Just get a basic 10" or 12" Lodge frying pan. Inexpensive, available at most targets or home good store, already pre-seasoned and pretty much bulletproof. Start cooking and if you really dig it you can start getting real deep in the weeds.
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Post by: krookedjuice on May 24, 2022, 09:45:38 AM
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goddammit y'all sparked my interest in cast iron pans. might have to get one soon, where do I even start? lmao
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Just get a basic 10" or 12" Lodge frying pan. Inexpensive, available at most targets or home good store, already pre-seasoned and pretty much bulletproof. Start cooking and if you really dig it you can start getting real deep in the weeds.

Second that. I got the Lodge started kit a little while back that has a 12", a grill pan, and a smaller 8". also came with scrapers. have been good to me after numerous failed attempts at buying some in years past.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on May 24, 2022, 09:51:24 AM
I’ll also say that thrift stores where I live are always full up on cast iron. You’ll probably want to season it, which I understand isn’t everyone bag, but if you want to get started for like $10 that’s a good way in.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: twic3 on May 24, 2022, 09:55:35 AM
I bought the Lodge cast iron from Target also when I first started living on my own lol.

The first thing I learned to cook on it was chicken and rice.

-sear chicken thigh w/skin until the skin is crispy and remove it from the pan
-cook your veggies (sweet yellow onions with whatever, I prefer sweet potatoes) and have it absorb everything the chicken left behind. If you want to make it "cajun" use holy trinity mix and seasoning.
-Add 1.5 cups of rice, 3 cups of water or chicken broth or beer, your choice. Dash of soy sauce/seasoning of choice.
-toss the chicken on top and let it braise until rice is cooked.
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Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 24, 2022, 10:02:56 AM
Cowboy Kent Rollins is the Professor Schmitt of cast iron cooking.

https://youtu.be/rRZMXZfcol8 (https://youtu.be/rRZMXZfcol8)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: matt_2993 on May 24, 2022, 10:28:38 AM
Also go buy yourself a fish spatula.  Metal spatulas are what you want for cast iron

(https://assets.epicurious.com/photos/5d7bec51b9da6400085b5be1/master/w_1500,h_1000,c_limit/Lamson%20Fish%20Turner.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on May 24, 2022, 11:17:00 AM
IC < CI (cast iron)
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Post by: PuffinMuffin on May 24, 2022, 11:36:21 AM
I had two Griswold prewar cast iron skillets (kinda the creme de la creme of cast iron). They were my go-to's but since acquiring a 1/4" baking steel and a de Buyer carbon steel pan, the cast iron has been rendered obsolete. Never thought they'd relinquish the top spot on the pan shelf, but there they sat in the back hardly ever get used, so I gave them to my mom. Carbon steel is much easier to clean and rarely stick. It can be hand washed with dish soap and no scent is retained as it's not porous like cast iron. The baking steel has upped my pizza game considerably, but cast iron still reigns king of pan-style pizza, kinda miss them in that regard.

Also recently bought a T-fal ceramic pan and was pleasantly surprised by how stickproof it is.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 24, 2022, 11:39:32 AM
I had two Griswold prewar cast iron skillets (kinda the creme de la creme of cast iron). They were my go-to's but since acquiring a 1/4" baking steel and a de Buyer carbon steel pan, the cast iron has been rendered obsolete. Never thought they'd relinquish the top spot on the pan shelf, but there they sat in the back hardly ever get used, so I gave them to my mom. Carbon steel is much easier to clean and rarely stick. It can be hand washed with dish soap and no scent is retained as it's not porous like cast iron. The baking steel has upped my pizza game considerably, but cast iron still reigns king of pan-style pizza, kinda miss them in that regard.

Also recently bought a T-fal ceramic pan and was pleasantly surprised by how stickproof it is.

Cast iron Pan Pizza is so underrated
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: somefucker on May 24, 2022, 11:39:40 AM
i know this is a cast iron thread now

but i can't recommend getting a legitimate pizza stone enough

we've made 3 pizzas in the past month and they never stick!!!!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on May 24, 2022, 12:03:30 PM
What's everyone's favorite carbon steel pan?
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 24, 2022, 12:25:01 PM
What's everyone's favorite carbon steel pan?

We just got this BK pan and so far liking it a lot. This is my first carbon steel so can’t really compare it to anything else. Easy to season, super non stick, and pretty deep so I actually use it a lot like a wok to stir fry. Relatively inexpensive too.

 https://www.bk-cookware.com/black-steel (https://www.bk-cookware.com/black-steel)
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Post by: matt_2993 on May 24, 2022, 12:54:48 PM
Anyone here working with the Finex cast irons?
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Post by: LB on May 24, 2022, 02:15:17 PM
i got a cast iron pancake pan but it sticks like a bastard
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Post by: manysnakes on May 24, 2022, 02:19:24 PM
Anyone here working with the Finex cast irons?

I have a friend who bought one and said it ended up being worse than his vintage Lodge.
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Post by: matt_2993 on May 24, 2022, 02:23:18 PM
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Anyone here working with the Finex cast irons?
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I have a friend who bought one and said it ended up being worse than his vintage Lodge.

No shit? There's a huge cast iron community on reddit and people seem to fuck with them in general but posts seem to only be about when they first buy em vs daily use so I've been a bit skeptical
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Post by: manysnakes on May 24, 2022, 02:29:50 PM
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Anyone here working with the Finex cast irons?
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I have a friend who bought one and said it ended up being worse than his vintage Lodge.
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No shit? There's a huge cast iron community on reddit and people seem to fuck with them in general but posts seem to only be about when they first buy em vs daily use so I've been a bit skeptical

Yeah, I wish I could remember what his issue was, but as I recall he seemed to conclude that it was just needlessly fancy and expensive, and didn’t offer any benefit over another pan. I want to say that something about the shape bothered him.
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Post by: drewdown on May 25, 2022, 07:35:49 AM
My experience is only with MISEN and carbon steel and like I said they rusted in no time and that is after I spent hours 'seasoning' them.  Maybe other brands are better but my only introduction to carbon steel pans sucked big time.  Sucked so much that MISEN sent me a set of non-stick pans at no cost. 
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Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 25, 2022, 07:37:29 AM
Anyone having issues with fish or certain meats drying out while cooking on cast iron?
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Post by: R3dBullRox420 on May 25, 2022, 07:44:18 AM
We just added a carbon steel to the arsenal, so far really liking it a lot. We use it most often almost like a wok because it's pretty deep and has steep sides. I do a lot of stir fry noodle dishes in it or fried rice type stuff.

I don't think most people know you shouldn't heat non-stick pans above medium-high otherwise that PFAS shit will start leeching into your food. Carbon Steel is 90% of the way to non-stick and way more versatile in my opinion.

Lmao @ the clowns who bought the Always Pan and ruined the non-stick with high heat
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Post by: somefucker on May 25, 2022, 07:45:27 AM
Anyone having issues with fish or certain meats drying out while cooking on cast iron?

if its not seasoned properly, the moisture from the fish/meat tends to evaporate or stick to the pan

2 tbsp olive oil rubbed into the pan, upside down in the oven on 350 for 20 min

let cool and good to go
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Post by: SaySo on May 25, 2022, 07:48:55 AM
I love hating Mikey Alfred. It just feels right.

Mikey Alfred...a firsty-firsty. Only thing worse would be a firsty-firsty; girly-girly, like Traci Shannon.
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Post by: PatrickSkateman on May 25, 2022, 07:51:01 AM
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if its not seasoned properly, the moisture from the fish/meat tends to evaporate or stick to the pan

2 tbsp olive oil rubbed into the pan, upside down in the oven on 350 for 20 min

let cool and good to go

Thanks
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Post by: rawbertson. on May 25, 2022, 08:23:45 AM
i cook the fish on both sides, is there a certain way you are supposed to do it? I alaways see some meme about Neen cooking fish skin side up or some shit and my fish tastes pretty good. i am worried it wouldnt cook through if you only cooked it on one side?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Hairy Ballsagna on May 25, 2022, 09:31:00 AM
Huh, I’m intrigued by the carbon steel, especially because they’re more affordable than I thought. I have a vintage Wagner and a griswold. In my opinion, they’re miles better than a lodge and widely available at thrift and antique stores. Though, I admit I haven’t used Lodges very much. I don’t like the porous texture of them.

Regarding pizza stone vs cast iron pizza: I do both but I think I’m starting to like cast iron better. My sense is that it preheats faster, so you get a crispier crust without having to preheat a stone for forever.
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 25, 2022, 09:34:51 AM
Huh, I’m intrigued by the carbon steel, especially because they’re more affordable than I thought. I have a vintage Wagner and a griswold. In my opinion, they’re miles better than a lodge and widely available at thrift and antique stores. Though, I admit I haven’t used Lodges very much. I don’t like the porous texture of them.

Regarding pizza stone vs cast iron pizza: I do both but I think I’m starting to like cast iron better. My sense is that it preheats faster, so you get a crispier crust without having to preheat a stone for forever.

I'm so jealous of people saying they find cast iron at local thrift shops. I'm in LA and people have made thrifting their job now so shit gets snatched up so quick
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Post by: PuffinMuffin on May 25, 2022, 09:56:46 AM
Though, I admit I haven’t used Lodges very much. I don’t like the porous texture of them.

It's been my experience that modern Lodge finish sticks way more than smooth vintage cast iron. I'm considering buying a Lodge and resurfacing it with a disk and angle grinder. From reading around a bit it seems like a practical solution considering good cast iron is so expensive these days.
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Post by: The Mad Rapper on May 25, 2022, 09:59:10 AM
a dedicated cast iron thread would be really tight
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 25, 2022, 10:08:07 AM
a dedicated cast iron thread would be really tight

This is the dedicated cast iron thread
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Post by: manysnakes on May 25, 2022, 10:21:30 AM
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Huh, I’m intrigued by the carbon steel, especially because they’re more affordable than I thought. I have a vintage Wagner and a griswold. In my opinion, they’re miles better than a lodge and widely available at thrift and antique stores. Though, I admit I haven’t used Lodges very much. I don’t like the porous texture of them.

Regarding pizza stone vs cast iron pizza: I do both but I think I’m starting to like cast iron better. My sense is that it preheats faster, so you get a crispier crust without having to preheat a stone for forever.
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I'm so jealous of people saying they find cast iron at local thrift shops. I'm in LA and people have made thrifting their job now so shit gets snatched up so quick

I’m surprised to hear that there’s a lot of resale value in rusty Lodge pans. I guess maybe people who operate booths in antique malls or at flea markets grab them, because selling them on eBay is usually cost-prohibitive unless you’re talking Le Creuset money.
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Post by: DCLOVE on May 25, 2022, 10:31:38 AM
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Though, I admit I haven’t used Lodges very much. I don’t like the porous texture of them.
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It's been my experience that modern Lodge finish sticks way more than smooth vintage cast iron. I'm considering buying a Lodge and resurfacing it with a disk and angle grinder. From reading around a bit it seems like a practical solution considering good cast iron is so expensive these days.

I’m pretty sure I saw a Reddit thread of a guy who’s done this with a few different pans to test it out. If you give it a shot let’s seee the results
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Post by: manysnakes on May 25, 2022, 10:36:09 AM
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Though, I admit I haven’t used Lodges very much. I don’t like the porous texture of them.
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It's been my experience that modern Lodge finish sticks way more than smooth vintage cast iron. I'm considering buying a Lodge and resurfacing it with a disk and angle grinder. From reading around a bit it seems like a practical solution considering good cast iron is so expensive these days.

I’ve heard of people doing this but it seems easier to track down a vintage Lodge (or other make) pan on eBay or elsewhere, one which is already smooth. Agreed completely about the contemporary Lodge finish - it does get better with use but nothing compares to something slick and smooth straight out of the box.
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Post by: twic3 on May 25, 2022, 10:37:10 AM
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Huh, I’m intrigued by the carbon steel, especially because they’re more affordable than I thought. I have a vintage Wagner and a griswold. In my opinion, they’re miles better than a lodge and widely available at thrift and antique stores. Though, I admit I haven’t used Lodges very much. I don’t like the porous texture of them.

Regarding pizza stone vs cast iron pizza: I do both but I think I’m starting to like cast iron better. My sense is that it preheats faster, so you get a crispier crust without having to preheat a stone for forever.
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I'm so jealous of people saying they find cast iron at local thrift shops. I'm in LA and people have made thrifting their job now so shit gets snatched up so quick
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I’m surprised to hear that there’s a lot of resale value in rusty Lodge pans. I guess maybe people who operate booths in antique malls or at flea markets grab them, because selling them on eBay is usually cost-prohibitive unless you’re talking Le Creuset money.

Theres a guy who only sells refurbished 50+ year old cast irons at my local flea and its the busiest booth there. I remember him talking to me how vintage cast irons are better quality than new ones?
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Post by: Made In China on May 25, 2022, 10:52:07 AM
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You don't need to eat meat to love cast iron. I've been vegetarian for ~25 years and I use my cast iron at least once a day to cook eggs. If I were scrambling tofu, I'd use the same pan in the same way. Anything you cook in a pan, you can cook with cast iron!

What are everyone's thoughts on "Ceramic" coated pans? It seems like ceramic in this case is a misnomer and there's still a polymer coating being applied to the pan, but it's incredibly hard to get a straight answer about what "ceramic" is supposed to mean here. They claim to be PFOA-free, but we all know that we're ~10-15 years away from finding that whichever polymer we are told was safe to be lowering our sperm counts to 0. In my case, we bought some Costco Ceramic pans. They work well enough, but definitely leave me wondering.
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What's your tofu scramble recipe? I use nutritional yeast, paprika and tumeric + some veggies but wanna hear some other recipes.
You didn't ask me, but I'll butt in anyways cause I love a good tofu scramble lol. I usually do onion, garlic, ginger, and whatever veggies I have around. I'll season it with some turmeric, curry powder, paprika, and maybe some spike or just salt and pepper. Once everything is almost cooked, I'll pour in some bragg sauce and let it cook down. Soy sauce also works but something about the bragg sauce tastes better with the seasonings and feels like it's better for me. I'll usually garnish it with nutritional yeast and cilantro if I have it.

It's one of my go to breakfast or lunches to make. It's pretty quick and simple and it feels healthier than a lot of the other things I would make. Would definitely recommend to anyone who hasn't tried it before! 
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Post by: Lou Strux on May 25, 2022, 11:31:02 AM
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a dedicated cast iron thread would be really tight
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This is the dedicated cast iron thread
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lilboosie on May 25, 2022, 11:44:51 AM
I just want something to grill salmon skin side up
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on May 25, 2022, 11:48:20 AM
any thoughts on cast i ron grilling grates?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: goldfishboot on May 25, 2022, 11:51:54 AM
You haven't heard of the revolution?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2XawdY22Ek
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: companguero on May 25, 2022, 12:02:26 PM
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a dedicated cast iron thread would be really tight
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This is the dedicated cast iron thread
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Because after reading some shitpost, everyone ought to talk about cast iron. So I tried it, well, the rest is history:
I'm still talking about cast iron, I love it, and jgonzalez introduced me to something really good.
And I know now the next question! Knowing you The Mad Rapper, being the poster that you are, digging in deep all the time, you will say now, "What does SLAP think about that?" Let me ask you something: when jgonzalez has introduced me to cast iron posting, what is SLAP going to say? SLAP is not going to say, "jgonzalez made a mistake," because jgonzalez never makes a mistake, so therefore it is okay.
I can cast iron post around SLAP, I can cast iron post in my house ...
first of all because jgonzalez introduced me to cast iron posting, and second of all because I'm a stud. I’m ballsy. I don’t take no shit from anyone..
I cast iron post anywhere I want! I don’t have to find a hideout place like you! HO HO HO

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/B4uq-2dBDbU/hqdefault.jpg)
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Post by: PuffinMuffin on May 25, 2022, 07:56:41 PM
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Though, I admit I haven’t used Lodges very much. I don’t like the porous texture of them.
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It's been my experience that modern Lodge finish sticks way more than smooth vintage cast iron. I'm considering buying a Lodge and resurfacing it with a disk and angle grinder. From reading around a bit it seems like a practical solution considering good cast iron is so expensive these days.
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I’ve heard of people doing this but it seems easier to track down a vintage Lodge (or other make) pan on eBay or elsewhere, one which is already smooth. Agreed completely about the contemporary Lodge finish - it does get better with use but nothing compares to something slick and smooth straight out of the box.

Agreed, it would be easier to just buy a vintage one. I love a project and tinkering with stuff though. Plus I gotta keep myself busy and stimulated, or else boredom and then self-loathing takes hold.
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Post by: jgonzalez on May 27, 2022, 07:52:52 PM
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a dedicated cast iron thread would be really tight
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This is the dedicated cast iron thread
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Quote from: BartHarleyJarvis
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Because after reading some shitpost, everyone ought to talk about cast iron. So I tried it, well, the rest is history:
I'm still talking about cast iron, I love it, and jgonzalez introduced me to something really good.
And I know now the next question! Knowing you The Mad Rapper, being the poster that you are, digging in deep all the time, you will say now, "What does SLAP think about that?" Let me ask you something: when jgonzalez has introduced me to cast iron posting, what is SLAP going to say? SLAP is not going to say, "jgonzalez made a mistake," because jgonzalez never makes a mistake, so therefore it is okay.
I can cast iron post around SLAP, I can cast iron post in my house ...
first of all because jgonzalez introduced me to cast iron posting, and second of all because I'm a stud. I’m ballsy. I don’t take no shit from anyone..
I cast iron post anywhere I want! I don’t have to find a hideout place like you! HO HO HO
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LOL. What's happening here. No clue, but thanks? not sure haha.

I went to Marshalls and they sell lodge cookware with superficial manufacturing defects for cheaper. I picked up that double burner griddle the other day and I'm pretty stoked. I've only heated up some tortillas on it so far, but I'm fantasizing about cooking burgers on one end and frying onions on the other. Even bringing it camping to throw atop the grill grate over the campfire. I'm gonna make some pizza on it this coming week. The pan in the pic i just cleaned all the crust off of it. I did some charcoal barbecueing yesterday so after I was done cooking (some marinated chicken and a big ass steak) I put some coals inside of the pan and submerged it in the coals overnight to burn off the crust. Brushed off the crust with steel wool today and Started seasoning it. It's an old one from like the 20s or 30s with the smooth surface you all were talking about. an old roommate left it behind. Stoked to see how it cooks compared to the pieces I have from lodge.

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Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on May 29, 2022, 07:16:48 AM
Thanks @PuffinMuffin for the carbon steel tips, I’m gonna cop one of those asap.

On the topic of pizza, I find that pizzas in my cast irons come out tasting amazing but they sometimes stick and fuck up the seasoning on my pans. Maybe this means my seasoning job wasn’t good enough

And regarding vintage vs new Lodge jawns, funny enough I bought a new Lodge when I moved last year because my old pans were all in transit. It seemed like it was gonna be porous and shitty but after one round of seasoning it’s actually holding up even better than the vintage one I got from my parents. Hard to say if this is because of the pan itself or my seasoning practices or what. I’ll be honest I’m pretty lazy with seasoning so who knows.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on May 29, 2022, 08:30:10 AM
Thanks @PuffinMuffin for the carbon steel tips, I’m gonna cop one of those asap.

On the topic of pizza, I find that pizzas in my cast irons come out tasting amazing but they sometimes stick and fuck up the seasoning on my pans. Maybe this means my seasoning job wasn’t good enough

And regarding vintage vs new Lodge jawns, funny enough I bought a new Lodge when I moved last year because my old pans were all in transit. It seemed like it was gonna be porous and shitty but after one round of seasoning it’s actually holding up even better than the vintage one I got from my parents. Hard to say if this is because of the pan itself or my seasoning practices or what. I’ll be honest I’m pretty lazy with seasoning so who knows.

When I do pizza in the cast iron, I always do a little olive oil around the outside edge to get under the dough, I think it helps when it’s ready to pull out, plus a little cornmeal on the bottom of the pan. I get a little bit of dough sticking sometimes but those two things seem to help.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on June 04, 2022, 10:57:11 AM
Bumping this thread with more cast iron-related chatter.

My gf got me a new Lodge carbon steel for my birthday. I probably wouldn’t have went with lodge if I bought it myself, but it was a pretty thoughtful gift. Why would a normal sane person know about contemporary Lodge products’ crappy factoring seasoning and porous surface?

So I tried it out today and it’s pretty cool but I think it’s gonna need some help to really kick ass. I read in some Amazon reviews about people sanding down the surface with 200 grit sandpaper to smooth it out a bit. That seems like it would be fine, right? Should I worry about unleashing some sort of fucked up petrochemicals by disrupting the factory-made “seasoning” coating that it comes with?

Also in an attempt to get it improving quickly just to try it out this morning, I rubbed a little oil in and heated it on the stove till it smoked. Now I have some uneven seasoning in the pattern of a stove burner. It makes me realize most of my cast irons have this as well, because I’m not that diligent about taking care of em I guess. But I guess I’m gonna strip it all off and try to get a really proper seasoning job done in the oven sometime soon.

Anyone have thoughts or experience that would be relevant here?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 04, 2022, 11:27:56 AM
Bumping this thread with more cast iron-related chatter.

My gf got me a new Lodge carbon steel for my birthday. I probably wouldn’t have went with lodge if I bought it myself, but it was a pretty thoughtful gift. Why would a normal sane person know about contemporary Lodge products’ crappy factoring seasoning and porous surface?

So I tried it out today and it’s pretty cool but I think it’s gonna need some help to really kick ass. I read in some Amazon reviews about people sanding down the surface with 200 grit sandpaper to smooth it out a bit. That seems like it would be fine, right? Should I worry about unleashing some sort of fucked up petrochemicals by disrupting the factory-made “seasoning” coating that it comes with?

Also in an attempt to get it improving quickly just to try it out this morning, I rubbed a little oil in and heated it on the stove till it smoked. Now I have some uneven seasoning in the pattern of a stove burner. It makes me realize most of my cast irons have this as well, because I’m not that diligent about taking care of em I guess. But I guess I’m gonna strip it all off and try to get a really proper seasoning job done in the oven sometime soon.

Anyone have thoughts or experience that would be relevant here?

Yea, always preheat and season in the oven, if you do it over a stovetop it's going to heat unevenly where the flame is. I don't know exactly what Lodge seasons with but I have to imagine it's fairly organic so you should be safe to sandpaper it o...
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: quackquack on June 04, 2022, 11:29:39 AM
Bumping this thread with more cast iron-related chatter.

My gf got me a new Lodge carbon steel for my birthday. I probably wouldn’t have went with lodge if I bought it myself, but it was a pretty thoughtful gift. Why would a normal sane person know about contemporary Lodge products’ crappy factoring seasoning and porous surface?

So I tried it out today and it’s pretty cool but I think it’s gonna need some help to really kick ass. I read in some Amazon reviews about people sanding down the surface with 200 grit sandpaper to smooth it out a bit. That seems like it would be fine, right? Should I worry about unleashing some sort of fucked up petrochemicals by disrupting the factory-made “seasoning” coating that it comes with?

Also in an attempt to get it improving quickly just to try it out this morning, I rubbed a little oil in and heated it on the stove till it smoked. Now I have some uneven seasoning in the pattern of a stove burner. It makes me realize most of my cast irons have this as well, because I’m not that diligent about taking care of em I guess. But I guess I’m gonna strip it all off and try to get a really proper seasoning job done in the oven sometime soon.

Anyone have thoughts or experience that would be relevant here?

I haven't used a Lodge before, so I'm not sure what the pan's looking like but:

In my experience, most people don't wait long enough when cooking delicate, sticky foods. Chicken/fish skin will naturally start releasing from the pan when they've reached that crispy point. A lot of cooks want to check progress 5ish minutes in, before the skin has done much. I started just teasing my food with tongs to check if it's ready to release.

I start my chicken breasts in a cold, regular-ass pan (with oil in it of course). They never stick because I've learned to 'listen to the skin'.

A good trick if things are sticking is to add a pat of butter - the moisture in it will help deglaze the pan, and pop whatever is stuck, off.

Eggs are where this technique breaks down (all that flipping). If you're trying to cook pancakes/eggs, then my only advice is to season your pan like 5 times and then never, ever, no matter what, no matter what anyone says, or anyone has done, no matter whatever - don't cook anything else in that pan. No meat, no vegetables, no phad pok, just eggys.

credentials: spent 10 years as a professional cooking bitch, several years exclusively using carbon steel.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: toe_knee on June 13, 2022, 11:45:43 AM
Sweeeet I needed a cast iron thread
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 13, 2022, 12:25:02 PM
I fucked up and grabbed my carbon steel for a stupid ass bertolli bag meal with tomato sauce and a bunch of cheese, and absolutely obliterated the bottom, had to do a salt scrub to really clean all the stuck cheese and shit. Just did absolutely everything wrong possible from grabbing the pan to what I cooked in it to cleaning.

all that being said, after I cleaned it really well, went ahead and re-seasoned with oil and it's good as new.

That's the main thing I try to tell people, even if you totally fuck up somehow, cast iron and carbon steel can always be re-seasoned and saved. All these people that act like you can "ruin" your pans just don't know what they're doing.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on June 13, 2022, 12:44:35 PM
Carbon steel and cast iron can be ruined in one very specific way. You must *always* let them cool before washing. It's quiet easy to warp either of these materials by pouring room temperature water all over them when they are still sitting at 350°.

As for sanding or grinding, Lodge claims to use only organic oils to season. From a PDF on their website:

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What oil does Lodge use to season its cookware?

Lodge uses soy-based vegetable oil to season our traditional cast iron and carbon steel cookware in our foundries. There are no synthetic chemicals added at all. The oil is highly refined, and all proteins that cause soy-related allergies are eliminated. The oil is kosher and contains no animal fat, peanut oil, or paints.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on June 15, 2022, 07:02:36 AM
Carbon steel and cast iron can be ruined in one very specific way. You must *always* let them cool before washing. It's quiet easy to warp either of these materials by pouring room temperature water all over them when they are still sitting at 350°.

As for sanding or grinding, Lodge claims to use only organic oils to season. From a PDF on their website:

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What oil does Lodge use to season its cookware?

Lodge uses soy-based vegetable oil to season our traditional cast iron and carbon steel cookware in our foundries. There are no synthetic chemicals added at all. The oil is highly refined, and all proteins that cause soy-related allergies are eliminated. The oil is kosher and contains no animal fat, peanut oil, or paints.
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Heck yeah thanks for the tip
I’m definitely gonna sand my carbon steel down to get it smoother, and then re-season it.

Hey mods can we just change the title of this thread? It’s clearly a cast iron thread now. Who should I tag here
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Chapingro on June 17, 2022, 10:23:48 PM
I've lived in shared housing/roommate situations forever where i've used my more kitchen-oriented housemates cast iron skillets and am about to move into my first studio apartment -- so grateful i clicked this thread to read the gossip and ended up getting a timely master class in approaches to cast iron
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rune Spliffberg on June 18, 2022, 03:27:05 AM
every time i see this thread bumped i think there's actually something worth reading but it's just you fucks talking about pots and pans that take more maintenance than an infant child
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Idk on June 18, 2022, 05:21:34 AM
every time i see this thread bumped i think there's actually something worth reading but it's just you fucks talking about pots and pans that take more maintenance than an infant child
Have you had an egg and cheese bagel from a cast iron? That you just made? Delicious.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on June 18, 2022, 05:51:29 AM
every time i see this thread bumped i think there's actually something worth reading but it's just you fucks talking about pots and pans that take more maintenance than an infant child
This just in: TJ has signed the 1st team member to the new Brick Underpants team, and it’s none other than the young, rising star Cas Tyern.
Things are looking up, yo’.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on June 18, 2022, 06:54:09 AM
every time i see this thread bumped i think there's actually something worth reading but it's just you fucks talking about pots and pans that take more maintenance than an infant child
This is why we need to change the title
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Hefe43 on June 18, 2022, 11:34:55 AM
every time i see this thread bumped i think there's actually something worth reading but it's just you fucks talking about pots and pans that take more maintenance than an infant child

Personally, I like the extra shit I learn in 75% of the threads on here.  You ever make a breakfast skillet in a cast iron pan? Put some cheese on top and throw the bitch in the oven…. :o

No egg tho. Eggs are weird
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Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 18, 2022, 11:52:22 AM
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Personally, I like the extra shit I learn in 75% of the threads on here.  You ever make a breakfast skillet in a cast iron pan? Put some cheese on top and throw the bitch in the oven…. :o

No egg tho. Eggs are weird

The seasoning on your cast iron has to be on point to handle eggs. Or you need a good amount of lard or butter to help
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Post by: pdknox on June 18, 2022, 11:59:41 AM
hash brown on the bottom of the cast iron then crack some eggs on top and youre good.

offtopic but cant stand when people use nonstick for anything other than eggs
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 18, 2022, 12:27:12 PM
hash brown on the bottom of the cast iron then crack some eggs on top and youre good.

offtopic but cant stand when people use nonstick for anything other than eggs

Totally, I think that’s really the only thing I’ll pull out the non-stick for anymore. Eggs and maybe some one pan freezer meals.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on June 18, 2022, 01:17:15 PM
Eggs aren’t even that bad if you use enough oil/butter/whatever, but it can be a little excessive if all you wanna do is fry a couple over east or something

But cast iron is dope for an omelette, and that’s a case where using a ton of butter is totally fine

Another tip that my gf’s mom taught me— use half butter and half oil so you get butter flavor plus the better lubrication of a more oily oil.
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Post by: JANUS on June 18, 2022, 01:38:21 PM
Butter for flavour, oil for crispy, baby!
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Post by: skrub on June 26, 2022, 08:07:46 PM
I'm so jealous of people saying they find cast iron at local thrift shops. I'm in LA and people have made thrifting their job now so shit gets snatched up so quick

Go east. The Inland Empire has what you seek.
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Post by: matt_2993 on June 26, 2022, 08:35:10 PM
Absolute weirdos not using cast iron for eggs
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Post by: versacekid420 on June 26, 2022, 08:49:50 PM
girlfriends grandparents gave us a cast iron skillet today. any tips for first time users
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Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on June 26, 2022, 09:08:53 PM
you gotta heat it up first
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Post by: muntcuscle on June 27, 2022, 12:55:16 AM
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Weird people are putting Jonah Hill and Mikey in the same camp. Jonah Hill is way cooler than Mikey Alfred. I've always thought Mikey was the worst, but when that interview came out talking shit on Spike Jones, that was the final straw. Hopefully he gets blacklisted from Hollywood.
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Hollywood has to know who Mikey is to blacklist him

Re: Jonah.   People give him shit about his lack of talent, but that’s totally relatable.   Not everyone who loves skateboarding is required to have talent at it and he clearly has always had an affection for it.   I suck, but I’ve thought about few things more in the past 20 years of my life

Sure, Mid90s was a little bit of a masturbatory attempt to recast his life as a good skater, rather than embrace true/interesting/relatable version, but he’s never come across as exploitative of skateboarding and if it got him a seat at the cool skaters table for a little, bless up my friend.
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Nah man I think Jonah Hill is a culture vulture. Look at the way he gave up on skating and now acts like he’s mr surf, posting ig clips of himself flagrantly burning people at malibu. I know first point is a kook circus drop-in fest but if you live right down the road maybe you could manage to get a clip where you aren’t just ruining somebody else’s wave? Other people manage to do it somehow.

He’s so bad at surfing too, which makes it even funnier. He caters his image to people who don’t actually surf/skate because they don’t know better and will think it’s “cool”. The guy just burns people then squat stances down the line

I like Jonah and he’s been in some of the best comedies, but his newfound surfer image is gold. Guy’s a textbook kook
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Post by: OwlGreen on June 27, 2022, 02:01:49 AM
Is Jonah Hill Bizarro AO?

I like carbon steel.
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Post by: Diamond_Dallas_Pudge on June 27, 2022, 03:02:32 AM
$$ for footage of Jonah or Mikey skating because I know they dont

Show me a rock fakie a mobbed kickflip ANYTHING

Everybody kick in 5$ let's make this happen
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: E on June 27, 2022, 11:00:19 AM
$$ for footage of Jonah or Mikey skating because I know they dont

Show me a rock fakie a mobbed kickflip ANYTHING

Everybody kick in 5$ let's make this happen
Enjoy, Pals:

https://imgur.com/a/REMN1Se

I accept venmo or paypal.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on June 27, 2022, 01:51:07 PM
Guys PLEASE try to stay on topic, this is the cast iron skillet thread
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jgonzalez on June 27, 2022, 02:25:54 PM
girlfriends grandparents gave us a cast iron skillet today. any tips for first time users
is it properly seasoned? new? hand me down? I suppose scrubbing it then adding some oil and throwing it in the oven or stove top for some time won't hurt.

If there's some seasoning on the pan cook something real fatty to keep the seasoning going. Bacon is pretty good. Been cooking bacon more frequently and noticing the non stick qualities of my pans going up.

just got a le creuset 5.5 classic. Scored one off of next door at a good price. got a tip to look at next door from talking about cooking with a stranger. gotta upgrade the lid knob to do some oven roasts tho. anyone got any simple roast recipes.
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Post by: versacekid420 on June 27, 2022, 03:14:46 PM
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girlfriends grandparents gave us a cast iron skillet today. any tips for first time users
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is it properly seasoned? new? hand me down? I suppose scrubbing it then adding some oil and throwing it in the oven or stove top for some time won't hurt.

If there's some seasoning on the pan cook something real fatty to keep the seasoning going. Bacon is pretty good. Been cooking bacon more frequently and noticing the non stick qualities of my pans going up.

just got a le creuset 5.5 classic. Scored one off of next door at a good price. got a tip to look at next door from talking about cooking with a stranger. gotta upgrade the lid knob to do some oven roasts tho. anyone got any simple roast recipes.
sick thank you! we were just talking about it and she said her grandparents bought it new, but seasoned it for us which i thought was sweet. gonna cook some bacon on it now! breakfast for dinner
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Post by: Diamond_Dallas_Pudge on June 27, 2022, 07:25:15 PM
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$$ for footage of Jonah or Mikey skating because I know they dont

Show me a rock fakie a mobbed kickflip ANYTHING

Everybody kick in 5$ let's make this happen
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Enjoy, Pals:

https://imgur.com/a/REMN1Se
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I accept venmo or paypal.

His wheels must be 60+mm
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: yeahisaidit on June 27, 2022, 07:48:21 PM
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is it properly seasoned? new? hand me down? I suppose scrubbing it then adding some oil and throwing it in the oven or stove top for some time won't hurt.

If there's some seasoning on the pan cook something real fatty to keep the seasoning going. Bacon is pretty good. Been cooking bacon more frequently and noticing the non stick qualities of my pans going up.

just got a le creuset 5.5 classic. Scored one off of next door at a good price. got a tip to look at next door from talking about cooking with a stranger. gotta upgrade the lid knob to do some oven roasts tho. anyone got any simple roast recipes.
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sick thank you! we were just talking about it and she said her grandparents bought it new, but seasoned it for us which i thought was sweet. gonna cook some bacon on it now! breakfast for dinner

After using, I throw salt on it and wipe it down with a paper towel or cloth. Serves as a scrub. Then when cooking again, throw some olive oil on and repeat.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jgonzalez on June 27, 2022, 07:48:46 PM
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is it properly seasoned? new? hand me down? I suppose scrubbing it then adding some oil and throwing it in the oven or stove top for some time won't hurt.

If there's some seasoning on the pan cook something real fatty to keep the seasoning going. Bacon is pretty good. Been cooking bacon more frequently and noticing the non stick qualities of my pans going up.

just got a le creuset 5.5 classic. Scored one off of next door at a good price. got a tip to look at next door from talking about cooking with a stranger. gotta upgrade the lid knob to do some oven roasts tho. anyone got any simple roast recipes.
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sick thank you! we were just talking about it and she said her grandparents bought it new, but seasoned it for us which i thought was sweet. gonna cook some bacon on it now! breakfast for dinner

People trying to demonize SLAP

Nah man really we just cooking bacon

Mention that on your podcast homie
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rune Spliffberg on June 27, 2022, 07:50:00 PM
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$$ for footage of Jonah or Mikey skating because I know they dont

Show me a rock fakie a mobbed kickflip ANYTHING

Everybody kick in 5$ let's make this happen
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Enjoy, Pals:

https://imgur.com/a/REMN1Se
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I accept venmo or paypal.

I'll never understand how people who insist on remaining so adjacent to skateboarding can't manage to use just a few dozen of those hundreds, if not thousands of hours, lurking, to actually spend enough time on a skateboard to not look like a baby deer trying to stand up for the first time.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on June 27, 2022, 07:55:21 PM
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girlfriends grandparents gave us a cast iron skillet today. any tips for first time users
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is it properly seasoned? new? hand me down? I suppose scrubbing it then adding some oil and throwing it in the oven or stove top for some time won't hurt.

If there's some seasoning on the pan cook something real fatty to keep the seasoning going. Bacon is pretty good. Been cooking bacon more frequently and noticing the non stick qualities of my pans going up.

just got a le creuset 5.5 classic. Scored one off of next door at a good price. got a tip to look at next door from talking about cooking with a stranger. gotta upgrade the lid knob to do some oven roasts tho. anyone got any simple roast recipes.
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sick thank you! we were just talking about it and she said her grandparents bought it new, but seasoned it for us which i thought was sweet. gonna cook some bacon on it now! breakfast for dinner
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After using, I throw salt on it and wipe it down with a paper towel or cloth. Serves as a scrub. Then when cooking again, throw some olive oil on and repeat.

Salt scrub definitely works. I’ll only do that if I cooked something that put some fond on the on or something, but otherwise I just wipe down. Bacon you definitely just pour out the grease and give a wipe with a paper towel
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on June 28, 2022, 08:00:42 AM
so my new carbon steel is pretty chill but it still has that shitty lodge brand porous surface. it pisses me off. if i wipe it down with a paper towel it will chew up little shreds of paper and leave them all over the pan. i dont know why lodge makes shit like this. i think i might really need to hit it with some sandpaper, but that seems like kind of a pain, so if anyone knows a way to fix it faster, lmk. i mean, i guess i could just use a rag instead but then i have a greasy ass rag to wash and i dont have my own laundry machine in this apartment, so that's a pain as well. fuck lodge, all my homies hate lodge.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: matt_2993 on June 28, 2022, 08:03:36 AM
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girlfriends grandparents gave us a cast iron skillet today. any tips for first time users
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is it properly seasoned? new? hand me down? I suppose scrubbing it then adding some oil and throwing it in the oven or stove top for some time won't hurt.

If there's some seasoning on the pan cook something real fatty to keep the seasoning going. Bacon is pretty good. Been cooking bacon more frequently and noticing the non stick qualities of my pans going up.

just got a le creuset 5.5 classic. Scored one off of next door at a good price. got a tip to look at next door from talking about cooking with a stranger. gotta upgrade the lid knob to do some oven roasts tho. anyone got any simple roast recipes.

Go do some beef bourguignon! This recipe is gonna smack you in the face
https://www.recipetineats.com/beef-bourguignon-beef-burgundy/

I end up just pairing it with those Idaho mashed potatoes you just add water too cause they're bomb but if you wanna go all in make some from scratch. Also recommend having some proper Sourdough with it
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: The.Skate.Father on July 23, 2022, 12:19:48 PM
My old mans got an old cast iron camp/dutch oven he cooks in, it looks gross, but all the lard produces mad flavour, and top results, no good for cholesterol I guess...
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: MexicanSpaniard on July 23, 2022, 05:30:27 PM
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girlfriends grandparents gave us a cast iron skillet today. any tips for first time users
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is it properly seasoned? new? hand me down? I suppose scrubbing it then adding some oil and throwing it in the oven or stove top for some time won't hurt.

If there's some seasoning on the pan cook something real fatty to keep the seasoning going. Bacon is pretty good. Been cooking bacon more frequently and noticing the non stick qualities of my pans going up.

just got a le creuset 5.5 classic. Scored one off of next door at a good price. got a tip to look at next door from talking about cooking with a stranger. gotta upgrade the lid knob to do some oven roasts tho. anyone got any simple roast recipes.
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Go do some beef bourguignon! This recipe is gonna smack you in the face
https://www.recipetineats.com/beef-bourguignon-beef-burgundy/

I end up just pairing it with those Idaho mashed potatoes you just add water too cause they're bomb but if you wanna go all in make some from scratch. Also recommend having some proper Sourdough with it

Beef burgundy is so fucking good and I haven't had it in forever!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: CHONGO on July 23, 2022, 07:16:11 PM
all of the mare kooks
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Candied cigarettes on July 23, 2022, 11:07:50 PM
I really didn’t do my cast iron justice the first couple years I had it. Didn’t season or clean it properly all. A while back tho I watched this video and it had everything you really need to know about cleaning/maintaining a cast iron. Pretty funny too

 https://youtu.be/a5NbQwzwUTw (https://youtu.be/a5NbQwzwUTw)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on July 24, 2022, 07:04:34 AM
I really didn’t do my cast iron justice the first couple years I had it. Didn’t season or clean it properly all. A while back tho I watched this video and it had everything you really need to know about cleaning/maintaining a cast iron. Pretty funny too

 https://youtu.be/a5NbQwzwUTw (https://youtu.be/a5NbQwzwUTw)

Weird cowboys with their own YouTube cooking channels is one of my favorite YouTube subgenres
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: EXTRA SPICY on July 24, 2022, 07:18:04 AM
I really didn’t do my cast iron justice the first couple years I had it. Didn’t season or clean it properly all. A while back tho I watched this video and it had everything you really need to know about cleaning/maintaining a cast iron. Pretty funny too

 https://youtu.be/a5NbQwzwUTw (https://youtu.be/a5NbQwzwUTw)

“See the shine? Ready to go next time.” Dudes on repeat now for me.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Shitbag on July 24, 2022, 11:28:29 AM
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Let's embed it proper
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White Humpty looking fuck
I’m not reading this whole thread because this Humpty Hump reference is all I need to see!!!  ;D
I’m dying here
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: 323-BALM on July 29, 2022, 08:39:36 AM
So we cut the camp trip short by a day. Biting flies put us over the edge and it just wasn’t worth it. The kids got the full multi-day off the grid camping experience, though, so it was a huge success.
Our cast iron griddle caught on fire. Lodge, about a half inch thick. It’s probably 9x20, short wheelbase but fun for pancakes and roasting stuff. Lives on the center rack of the oven at home.
We went for campfire cookies and boom the thing was ablaze! Coating flaky, partner said it’s fucked forget it. But I remembered these skateboardmessageboarders who knew about everything, from history to fashion to holy shit: cast iron cooking! so here I am.
Can it be saved, it’s just a hunk of metal, that “coating” was just some cancer-inducing buildup of corboxylized oils and corbonium-rich crust, right?
I can scrub it with a wire brush and start over? Break it down to build it up like the army?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can give on this. And my pants and music and politics and graffiti and trans rights too!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jgonzalez on July 29, 2022, 09:20:33 AM
So we cut the camp trip short by a day. Biting flies put us over the edge and it just wasn’t worth it. The kids got the full multi-day off the grid camping experience, though, so it was a huge success.
Our cast iron griddle caught on fire. Lodge, about a half inch thick. It’s probably 9x20, short wheelbase but fun for pancakes and roasting stuff. Lives on the center rack of the oven at home.
We went for campfire cookies and boom the thing was ablaze! Coating flaky, partner said it’s fucked forget it. But I remembered these skateboardmessageboarders who knew about everything, from history to fashion to holy shit: cast iron cooking! so here I am.
Can it be saved, it’s just a hunk of metal, that “coating” was just some cancer-inducing buildup of corboxylized oils and corbonium-rich crust, right?
I can scrub it with a wire brush and start over? Break it down to build it up like the army?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can give on this. And my pants and music and politics and graffiti and trans rights too!

Sometimes when I bbq or do a pit fire I take the hot coals and bury my cast iron to burn everything off. Whatever is stuck will flake off if it has long and even contact with the coals. It’s an opportunity to start over in a way.

Yep. Scrub it well and apply a layer of oil and just start seasoning it. Give it a couple of coats or, like I’ve said, cook some bacon after seasoning it a couple of times. All the bacon fat will help re season and gives a good coat. I also save the fat in a can in the fridge for frying eggs chicken vegetables you name it. Hashbrows in bacon fat are good.

Remember. Hot pan, hot water lol. Been using that advice since I would usually just let my pans cool before cleaning them
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: 323-BALM on July 29, 2022, 01:10:53 PM
Nice, thanks!

Doing a heavy scrub clean up today, one pass with a grille brush already looking better.

Also poking around the cast iron subreddit for an overview, thanks. My Own Research confirms the indestructible hypothesis, will go forward with that until proven otherwise.

Also bopping around https://www.castironcollector.com/  , looking for the ID on the Wagner Drip Drop Roaster No.8 my mom gave us. It’s pretty sick: my partner preps lasagna and enchiladas pre-camping, using this Dutch oven as the mold. She freezes them in the pot, lined in aluminum foil. These frozen food frisbees are used as ice for the cooler, then boom she cooks them off and melts cheese over the campfire, v rustic and fun. Into it.



Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: OwlGreen on July 29, 2022, 03:31:32 PM
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$$ for footage of Jonah or Mikey skating because I know they dont

Show me a rock fakie a mobbed kickflip ANYTHING

Everybody kick in 5$ let's make this happen
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Enjoy, Pals:

https://imgur.com/a/REMN1Se
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I accept venmo or paypal.

Holy fuck this clip is fucking embarrassing.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Owen on July 29, 2022, 05:08:54 PM
So we cut the camp trip short by a day. Biting flies put us over the edge and it just wasn’t worth it. The kids got the full multi-day off the grid camping experience, though, so it was a huge success.
Our cast iron griddle caught on fire. Lodge, about a half inch thick. It’s probably 9x20, short wheelbase but fun for pancakes and roasting stuff. Lives on the center rack of the oven at home.
We went for campfire cookies and boom the thing was ablaze! Coating flaky, partner said it’s fucked forget it. But I remembered these skateboardmessageboarders who knew about everything, from history to fashion to holy shit: cast iron cooking! so here I am.
Can it be saved, it’s just a hunk of metal, that “coating” was just some cancer-inducing buildup of corboxylized oils and corbonium-rich crust, right?
I can scrub it with a wire brush and start over? Break it down to build it up like the army?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can give on this. And my pants and music and politics and graffiti and trans rights too!

I'm sure it'll come up ok. Watch the cowboy clip above for some cleaning tips.

One time my camp oven had some surface rust on it so I used a wire brush tip in a drill. That worked well. Once re-sealed it was as good as new
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: matt_2993 on July 29, 2022, 05:18:57 PM
Have yall heard about the absolute psychos who only clean their cast iron using a cut-in-half potato and some salt? 
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 29, 2022, 07:47:04 PM
Have yall heard about the absolute psychos who only clean their cast iron using a cut-in-half potato and some salt?

Better than Teflon tho.

I heard at Wendy’s the salt and scrape the grills at night.

I’ve only worked at McDonald’s. We didn’t really clean much till the board of health got involved.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: keepthefunkalive on July 29, 2022, 10:33:02 PM
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Better than Teflon tho.

I heard at Wendy’s the salt and scrape the grills at night.

I’ve only worked at McDonald’s. We didn’t really clean much till the board of health got involved.

Used to work in a few kitchens. The standard protocol is to first ice the flat top grill to cool and harden the grease, then put a bunch of kosher/rock salt on as an abrasive, and squirt some lemon juice on there as a degreaser. Scrub that mix around with whatever, rinse it or wipe it down with a wet rag, then put some type of oil on there to protect it. Same goes for cast iron if you want to be a G about it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Roisto on July 29, 2022, 10:50:19 PM
You guys are going camping with cast iron? :o Seems excessively heavy to lug around in the nature.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: warmonke on July 30, 2022, 02:56:59 AM
any wok heads in here? got a new wok a while ago but only had electric hobs so couldn't really season it, got gas now though so gonna try get it going
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on July 30, 2022, 07:12:19 AM
You guys are going camping with cast iron? :o Seems excessively heavy to lug around in the nature.

I think if you’re backpacking and traveling light, yeah it’s not super reasonable. But cast iron is perfect for camping. You can just pull some coals out of the fire to cook on or just bring any grate for over the fire and cook anything in it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on July 30, 2022, 07:23:27 AM
So we cut the camp trip short by a day. Biting flies put us over the edge and it just wasn’t worth it. The kids got the full multi-day off the grid camping experience, though, so it was a huge success.
Our cast iron griddle caught on fire. Lodge, about a half inch thick. It’s probably 9x20, short wheelbase but fun for pancakes and roasting stuff. Lives on the center rack of the oven at home.
We went for campfire cookies and boom the thing was ablaze! Coating flaky, partner said it’s fucked forget it. But I remembered these skateboardmessageboarders who knew about everything, from history to fashion to holy shit: cast iron cooking! so here I am.
Can it be saved, it’s just a hunk of metal, that “coating” was just some cancer-inducing buildup of corboxylized oils and corbonium-rich crust, right?
I can scrub it with a wire brush and start over? Break it down to build it up like the army?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can give on this. And my pants and music and politics and graffiti and trans rights too!

It’s the wrong time of year to do this, but come winter you can run it through the oven on “self-cleaning” mode and it’ll burn off all of the excess material leaving you with a fresh pan, ready to be seasoned.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Roisto on July 30, 2022, 08:46:51 AM
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I think if you’re backpacking and traveling light, yeah it’s not super reasonable. But cast iron is perfect for camping. You can just pull some coals out of the fire to cook on or just bring any grate for over the fire and cook anything in it.

I guess you can go camping without hiking too. It’s just a foreign concept to me. Do you just go somewhere by car and set up camp right next to where you park?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: 323-BALM on July 30, 2022, 08:53:11 AM
Yeah. Car camping. Pull off on an old dirt road next to a river. Had about 200 foot trail to this:
(https://i.ibb.co/hsYhKrv/ACB21-C45-8337-4-B4-E-A767-BDC8532-AD0-F6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsYhKrv)image hosting (https://imgbb.com/)

I call this “Beaver at Dusk.”
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Post by: Roisto on July 30, 2022, 10:30:17 AM
Yeah. Car camping. Pull off on an old dirt road next to a river. Had about 200 foot trail to this:
(https://i.ibb.co/hsYhKrv/ACB21-C45-8337-4-B4-E-A767-BDC8532-AD0-F6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsYhKrv)image hosting (https://imgbb.com/)

I call this “Beaver at Dusk.”

Damn. That seems awesome. I guess we mostly don’t have such places accessible by car here in Finland so I’ve never even considered that being a thing really.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: matt_2993 on July 30, 2022, 11:15:02 AM
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I think if you’re backpacking and traveling light, yeah it’s not super reasonable. But cast iron is perfect for camping. You can just pull some coals out of the fire to cook on or just bring any grate for over the fire and cook anything in it.
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I guess you can go camping without hiking too. It’s just a foreign concept to me. Do you just go somewhere by car and set up camp right next to where you park?

Park and take a boat or canoe to your campsite for a week. Always a solid option 
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Post by: manysnakes on July 30, 2022, 11:45:24 AM
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I think if you’re backpacking and traveling light, yeah it’s not super reasonable. But cast iron is perfect for camping. You can just pull some coals out of the fire to cook on or just bring any grate for over the fire and cook anything in it.
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I guess you can go camping without hiking too. It’s just a foreign concept to me. Do you just go somewhere by car and set up camp right next to where you park?

There are a lot of great roadside camp sites where you can pitch a tent or sleep safely in your vehicle for like $12. Much cheaper than paying for a hotel or motel when you’re traveling. I have a van so I’m no stranger to hauling cast iron around to campsites, but yeah I wouldn’t dream to haul that shit on my back.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: keepthefunkalive on July 30, 2022, 11:58:46 AM
Wife and I are headed out to do some truck camping today with the dogs actually. Pack the 4runner up, take a two track deep into state land, pitch a tent by the river. Simple and easy. Got my coleman stove and a cast iron ready to rock. Cooler full of bevvies and food. Blue tooth speaker, books, fly fishing gear, macro lens for plant photos. Truck camping is the shit
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Post by: manysnakes on July 31, 2022, 09:53:31 AM
Wife and I are headed out to do some truck camping today with the dogs actually. Pack the 4runner up, take a two track deep into state land, pitch a tent by the river. Simple and easy. Got my coleman stove and a cast iron ready to rock. Cooler full of bevvies and food. Blue tooth speaker, books, fly fishing gear, macro lens for plant photos. Truck camping is the shit

Yeah, I don’t know if this is maybe a coastal thing, where it might seem stranger to someone on the east coast, which is so much more densely populated. Because here in the western part of the US, you can camp for free or cheap in much of the millions of acres of national forest and other government land. It’s a super easy thing to do, and access is pretty much limited to people with motor vehicles or, if you’re an idiot like me, you can ride your bike out there.

This is a stock image, but I camped out here and I wouldn’t have been able to do it without a vehicle of some kind. (https://i.ibb.co/9ttbNxr/E86-DEA5-A-1-B72-42-FF-AB68-892-E5-E812-A66.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9ttbNxr)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: keepthefunkalive on July 31, 2022, 10:52:17 AM
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Wife and I are headed out to do some truck camping today with the dogs actually. Pack the 4runner up, take a two track deep into state land, pitch a tent by the river. Simple and easy. Got my coleman stove and a cast iron ready to rock. Cooler full of bevvies and food. Blue tooth speaker, books, fly fishing gear, macro lens for plant photos. Truck camping is the shit
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Yeah, I don’t know if this is maybe a coastal thing, where it might seem stranger to someone on the east coast, which is so much more densely populated. Because here in the western part of the US, you can camp for free or cheap in much of the millions of acres of national forest and other government land. It’s a super easy thing to do, and access is pretty much limited to people with motor vehicles or, if you’re an idiot like me, you can ride your bike out there.

This is a stock image, but I camped out here and I wouldn’t have been able to do it without a vehicle of some kind. (https://i.ibb.co/9ttbNxr/E86-DEA5-A-1-B72-42-FF-AB68-892-E5-E812-A66.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9ttbNxr)

I think it's more about land access policy and population yeah. We're in northern MI. We just went for a day and drove about 1.5 hrs into a state forest. Took a few two-track roads and set up shop next to a lovely little river in the woods. We're pretty lucky
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Roisto on July 31, 2022, 11:24:04 AM
We’ve got “Everyman’s rights” in Finland which means you can go camp, pick berries and mushrooms and hunt on anyone’s land. Not sure about parking though. And of course you can’t go destroying crops, leaving trash or camp in someone’s backyard. So all in all I think we might have a pretty good country for car camping but for some reason it’s not really a thing here. At least I don’t know anyone doing such. People (including me) do like to go hiking though.

Anyway, what you guys have posted about car camping seems really cool. I’ll need to rethink my next summer vacation. Could possibly camp a whole bunch more, not just when out hiking.
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Post by: warmonke on August 03, 2022, 07:15:57 AM
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Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on August 08, 2022, 06:30:20 PM
This month’s Thrasher:

“Autuer, skater and clothier Mikey Alfred let us know that he will henceforth be working on a new full-length media project with a whole new cast of people to remain unnamed.”

Cast Iron Skateboards?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: 323-BALM on September 06, 2022, 03:20:15 PM
hey.

the griddle was saved. I soaked it in vinegar overnight and scrubbed it down with a wire brush. Didn't even get to steel wool levels. Re-seasoned with olive erl in the oven, a couple few sessions and it's back 2 life. Cleaned bare to legal C.I., V-ictory thank you slappos

Camping-wise, back to that general area and a couple of small forest fires last weekend. Orange sunset on night one, woke up to winds of change and the smoke was gone. Realized that we didn't have too much fire trouble this summer, thank you Joe Biden!
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Post by: manysnakes on September 06, 2022, 03:41:12 PM
Found a 10" Lodge Signature pan at a thrift store a while back. Couldn't pass it up even though I have a 1940s  10" Lodge, a 10" Le Creuset (both purchased from this same store), and a 12" modern Lodge. If I decide not to keep it, maybe I'll pass it along to a Slap homie. It needs seasoning but then it'll good to go for a hundred years of daily use.
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Post by: radcunt on September 06, 2022, 03:48:57 PM
Clothier.
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Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on September 06, 2022, 03:51:43 PM
I bet Mikey Alfred’s skull is made of cast iron
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Post by: offkilter on September 06, 2022, 04:39:02 PM
This month’s Thrasher:

“Autuer, skater and clothier Mikey Alfred let us know that he will henceforth be working on a new full-length media project with a whole new cast of people to remain unnamed.”

Cast Iron Skateboards?

Hopefully he makes "West Hollywood" so he can leech off gay culture as well as skating this time!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on September 09, 2022, 11:42:51 AM
This month’s Thrasher:

“Autuer, skater and clothier Mikey Alfred let us know that he will henceforth be working on a new full-length media project with a whole new cast of people to remain unnamed.”

Cast Iron Skateboards?
Did they really spell “auteur” wrong or are you making this up
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on October 14, 2022, 10:15:27 PM
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This month’s Thrasher:

“Autuer, skater and clothier Mikey Alfred let us know that he will henceforth be working on a new full-length media project with a whole new cast of people to remain unnamed.”

Cast Iron Skateboards?
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Did they really spell “auteur” wrong or are you making this up

Sorry to keep you in suspense.  It’s real, I just misspelled auteur typing it up.

Mikey’s apparently on some NKA vids shit these days:

https://youtu.be/v9jVQjaf6lY
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Steely Daniel on October 14, 2022, 10:30:58 PM
Carbon steel pans are very similar and a nice lighter alternative to cast iron, probably good for camping trips etc.

That's my contribution to the cast iron pan thread.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on October 14, 2022, 11:03:09 PM
Mikeys a suss cunt. Who’s gonna do the deep dive to find out what fucked mega rich republican is his dad.
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Post by: Boog on October 15, 2022, 01:02:16 AM
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“Autuer, skater and clothier Mikey Alfred let us know that he will henceforth be working on a new full-length media project with a whole new cast of people to remain unnamed.”

Cast Iron Skateboards?
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Did they really spell “auteur” wrong or are you making this up
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Sorry to keep you in suspense.  It’s real, I just misspelled auteur typing it up.

Mikey’s apparently on some NKA vids shit these days:

https://youtu.be/v9jVQjaf6lY
Yes sirski!!!!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: EdLawndale on October 15, 2022, 01:12:39 AM
Mikeys a suss cunt. Who’s gonna do the deep dive to find out what fucked mega rich republican is his dad.

Pretty sure Bob Evans.  Well, like-his-dad.

BOB EVANS: (turning white, clutching his chest with one hand, phone in the other) ...Errrkkkk...
MIKEY ALFRED: I've already typed it up for you! Just press "Enter"!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 15, 2022, 01:55:13 AM

Mikey’s apparently on some NKA vids shit these days:

https://youtu.be/v9jVQjaf6lY
What a coup!
That Mikey Alfred guy just disguised a paid Fatburger advert in the trappings of an Ill Civ lifestyle video & got a bunch of ding-dongs like me to watch it, generating additional revenue.
I detest the dude, but I’ve got to hand it to him, that’s some grift.
Heckuva way to make a living.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on October 15, 2022, 07:02:48 AM
If 100 people comment FatBurger is Ass, we'll start uploading every second Friday lol
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on October 15, 2022, 07:52:36 AM
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Mikeys a suss cunt. Who’s gonna do the deep dive to find out what fucked mega rich republican is his dad.
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Pretty sure Bob Evans.  Well, like-his-dad.

BOB EVANS: (turning white, clutching his chest with one hand, phone in the other) ...Errrkkkk...
MIKEY ALFRED: I've already typed it up for you! Just press "Enter"!

Wow he dedicated his last moments to
This dogshit cunt. What’s goin on.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rickdizzo on October 15, 2022, 11:36:14 AM
having a mega republican dad does make it a little funnier that he named the main black guy in his feature film ‘Adolf’
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HORSES on October 15, 2022, 12:28:39 PM
"Whole team didn’t leave by the way. Everyone was getting paid, then when sales needed to pay salaries everyone slowed down promotion and eventually there’s no money. I still have hundreds of Zach and alex boards that are getting resanded to other graphics lol. Business lesson number 1 when the products don’t sell, stop the bleeding. Kevin white still skates for ic as a pro because he still promotes his board, alex and Zach got cut. All love tho as homies, just business."

"did I let them fall out of my hands or put them on to once and a lifetime opportunities. Still doing it now, most recently with Ralph Lauren, check the score board! I wish I had fans who would speak up for me in these comment sections. They support me quietly which is totally cool too"


It's honestly worth skipping through than just reading people go in on Mikey in the comments.


Edit: It's basically all in his IG stories as well. Man has lost the plot.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on October 15, 2022, 12:45:03 PM
This seems like beginning of Mike Alfred’s skate-sized Antonio Brown esque meltdown.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 15, 2022, 01:07:14 PM
This seems like beginning of Mike Alfred’s skate-sized Antonio Brown esque meltdown.
I’ll get the popcorn!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on October 15, 2022, 01:39:41 PM
"Whole team didn’t leave by the way. Everyone was getting paid, then when sales needed to pay salaries everyone slowed down promotion and eventually there’s no money. I still have hundreds of Zach and alex boards that are getting resanded to other graphics lol. Business lesson number 1 when the products don’t sell, stop the bleeding. Kevin white still skates for ic as a pro because he still promotes his board, alex and Zach got cut. All love tho as homies, just business."

"did I let them fall out of my hands or put them on to once and a lifetime opportunities. Still doing it now, most recently with Ralph Lauren, check the score board! I wish I had fans who would speak up for me in these comment sections. They support me quietly which is totally cool too"


It's honestly worth skipping through than just reading people go in on Mikey in the comments.


Edit: It's basically all in his IG stories as well. Man has lost the plot.

One of my favorite parts.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: FatGuy92 on October 15, 2022, 04:37:56 PM
Just when I thought he couldn't get any worse. Mikey Alfred is the biggest pretender in skateboarding. Someone get that dude the fuck away from those kids.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rickdizzo on October 15, 2022, 05:04:15 PM
posting youtube comments on IG saying how weird it is that your with little kids and calling them Karen’s gotta be one the least self aware things you can do online
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 15, 2022, 05:04:29 PM
Can’t believe dude just went right out & got himself another Seraceno kid.
Zach’s body ain’t even cold yet, let alone officially landed on any new sponsors (I know, I know… TJs “crown” brand.)
Rude, Mikey.
Rude & insensitive.
It’s too soon.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 15, 2022, 05:25:06 PM
what is Mikey's background and how did he end up connected in the industry? Where did he come from?  I feel like he just kind of appeared a few years ago. He can barely skate and has no legitimate talent. Did he have some sort of financial backing to buy into the industry? Is he a Hollywood plant?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 15, 2022, 05:40:12 PM
"Whole team didn’t leave by the way. Everyone was getting paid, then when sales needed to pay salaries everyone slowed down promotion and eventually there’s no money. I still have hundreds of Zach and alex boards that are getting resanded to other graphics lol. Business lesson number 1 when the products don’t sell, stop the bleeding. Kevin white still skates for ic as a pro because he still promotes his board, alex and Zach got cut. All love tho as homies, just business."

"did I let them fall out of my hands or put them on to once and a lifetime opportunities. Still doing it now, most recently with Ralph Lauren, check the score board! I wish I had fans who would speak up for me in these comment sections. They support me quietly which is totally cool too"


It's honestly worth skipping through than just reading people go in on Mikey in the comments.


Edit: It's basically all in his IG stories as well. Man has lost the plot.

This statement shows the fragility of his ego and what he holds to be important when it comes to running a business. Sales could be absolutely tanked and his whole team can quit but as long as kids in YouTube comments leave him fire emojis he's leading the industry.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mamba on October 15, 2022, 06:24:16 PM
Lmao the illegal civ instagram story is actually hilarious right now. Mikey is losing it. clearly he is having a hard time realizing people only liked IC for the skaters (the few that did) and not him. He can’t take the criticism without taking it personally.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on October 15, 2022, 07:00:10 PM
I do a little bit worry that that dude is getting brigaded right now. He's kooky but that shit can be pretty fucking debilitating especially if you're head maybe isn't totally glued on right.

what is Mikey's background and how did he end up connected in the industry? Where did he come from?  I feel like he just kind of appeared a few years ago. He can barely skate and has no legitimate talent. Did he have some sort of financial backing to buy into the industry? Is he a Hollywood plant?
Mikey's mom was the personal assistant to Robert Evans who was kinda the last Hollywood studio mogul before the corporations started buying up all the studios. Broad stokes; the deal with him was that the studio system basically collapsed in the wake of the cultural change of the 60s. Evans was the guy who knew how to look at potential movies and see if they would hit with a big audience, even if on paper they seemed like a wild pitch. Packages like Roman Polanski directing Rosemary's Baby (a huge hit) woulda never happened without Evan's involvement. It would have almost certainly gone to some aging but reliable director with the movie most likely forgotten today. And then there's The Godfather. It was a trashy checkout line bestseller and somehow Coppola made what he made and a lot of that was Evan's guidance as well. He could make hits when the other studios had mostly collapsed trying to.

Part of me thinks Mikey is aware of Robert Evan's ability to parse cultural change and turn it into revenue and that he aspires to do the same. Pretty crummy track record so far though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJsiZ_0EaW8
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 15, 2022, 07:28:34 PM
I do a little bit worry that that dude is getting brigaded right now. He's kooky but that shit can be pretty fucking debilitating especially if you're head maybe isn't totally glued on right.

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what is Mikey's background and how did he end up connected in the industry? Where did he come from?  I feel like he just kind of appeared a few years ago. He can barely skate and has no legitimate talent. Did he have some sort of financial backing to buy into the industry? Is he a Hollywood plant?
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Mikey's mom was the personal assistant to Robert Evans who was kinda the last Hollywood studio mogul before the corporations started buying up all the studios. Broad stokes; the deal with him was that the studio system basically collapsed in the wake of the cultural change of the 60s. Evans was the guy who knew how to look at potential movies and see if they would hit with a big audience, even if on paper they seemed like a wild pitch. Packages like Roman Polanski directing Rosemary's Baby (a huge hit) woulda never happened without Evan's involvement. It would have almost certainly gone to some aging but reliable director with the movie most likely forgotten today. And then there's The Godfather. It was a trashy checkout line bestseller and somehow Coppola made what he made and a lot of that was Evan's guidance as well. He could make hits when the other studios had mostly collapsed trying to.

Part of me thinks Mikey is aware of Robert Evan's ability to parse cultural change and turn it into revenue and that he aspires to do the same. Pretty crummy track record so far though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJsiZ_0EaW8

hey thanks for the response. this makes total sense now that you've made the connection. so he's a Hollywood wanna be who settled in the skate industry pretty much... I never realized he can't actually skate, but then again I didn't know much about him at all. I always thought he was the filmer who realized he wasn't gonna be pro but could still rip on some level.

I also get what you're saying about the shit storm racking him mentally. I don't wish poor mental health or an episode on the guy,  but if you can't handle criticism (but openly welcome public praise) you shouldn't be a public figure or run a business that plays so heavily into public feedback. Most people aren't really cut out for that shit.

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At around 2 mins he outs himself as another typical Hollywood entertainment kook that only associates himself with people that he can get something out of. The funny thing is he thinks he's saying something profound when really he sounds scummy and opportunistic. People like this give off the most disingenuous and needy vibes. Yeah, needy is exactly the word I'd use to describe him after watching this. What a strange guy.


http://youtu.be/IGm4ZCD5h_0
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: big_kev_215 on October 15, 2022, 07:50:52 PM
If Mikey’s delusions of grandeur weren’t so extreme you’d almost feel bad for the guy

As annoying as he often is, Midler deserves to pop up on the roster of a real board sponsor
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: shouldn't on October 15, 2022, 09:23:34 PM
so he’s sanding off hundreds of ex-rider’s graphics in order to resell them as new? whole team leaves, he says he kicked them off because they weren’t promoting his shitty graphics/brand enough. assorts a new squad of children as the team because they’re of the same mindset & are too young to see the graphics as a child’s garbage art. even before all of that, he publicly trash talks spike jonze in an interview to seem edgy and gain more attention. i hope he’s teaching business/art classes soon, he’s obviously very well versed.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on October 15, 2022, 09:34:15 PM
Ok so you reckon Robert Evans got funding for him for his movies? His dad was in jail, anyone know what for? I need more info on his background and his finance situation that floats his bullshit as he’s super comfortable with it but stinks of new money. It’s fascinating.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rickdizzo on October 15, 2022, 11:16:17 PM
i thought he was able to fund his stuff because he linked up with Tyler the Creator, Golf Wang group where he made a album documentary for tyler, which then got him to Jonah Hill and all that mid90s stuff and that snowballed him to “pls give me money for my shitty skateboard movie”
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on October 16, 2022, 12:06:14 AM
He definitely has rich parent vibes, he’s a fully formed douchebag but too amped about it. Like his dad struck oil or some shit.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dannyprovolone on October 16, 2022, 12:44:13 AM
Seems like your standard so cal grifter. These guys are everywhere now a days. It’s a subtle art, where the idea of genuine substance and hard work no longer exist
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: FAT on October 16, 2022, 12:58:51 AM
Just when I thought he couldn't get any worse. Mikey Alfred is the biggest pretender in skateboarding. Someone get that dude the fuck away from those kids.

I feel like the only sane explanation is the guy experienced ego death at a young age, and now he just complacently shits out hyper pseudo-corporate content just cause he can.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 16, 2022, 06:13:01 AM
Seems like your standard so cal grifter. These guys are everywhere now a days. It’s a subtle art, where the idea of genuine substance and hard work no longer exist

Yeah this is a type of guy as old as America, we just haven't had a lot of them in prominent roles within skateboarding before.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: 144p on October 16, 2022, 07:47:02 AM
It’s always the business men who discount the team as being the main source of interest from the consumer.
“My art and vision are what the kids really want. I can get any young kid to huck themselves down some sets and let the cash roll in.”
While it plays an integral part in the brand you can have bad graphics and still kill it if you have the other pieces in place.
I hope Baker boys ran from this flaming turd a while back. Andrew is always willing to give brands a chance. Seems like it rarely pans out though.

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mamba on October 16, 2022, 08:28:53 AM
smoking weed with kids is so fucking weird and not ok
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 16, 2022, 08:45:37 AM
so he’s sanding off hundreds of ex-rider’s graphics in order to resell them as new? whole team leaves, he says he kicked them off because they weren’t promoting his shitty graphics/brand enough. assorts a new squad of children as the team because they’re of the same mindset & are too young to see the graphics as a child’s garbage art. even before all of that, he publicly trash talks spike jonze in an interview to seem edgy and gain more attention. i hope he’s teaching business/art classes soon, he’s obviously very well versed.

won't sanding graphics off diminish the quality of the wood on some level? IC is the only company where the value of a board goes up with a sanded off graphic.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pointandclick on October 16, 2022, 11:08:35 AM
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so he’s sanding off hundreds of ex-rider’s graphics in order to resell them as new? whole team leaves, he says he kicked them off because they weren’t promoting his shitty graphics/brand enough. assorts a new squad of children as the team because they’re of the same mindset & are too young to see the graphics as a child’s garbage art. even before all of that, he publicly trash talks spike jonze in an interview to seem edgy and gain more attention. i hope he’s teaching business/art classes soon, he’s obviously very well versed.
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won't sanding graphics off diminish the quality of the wood on some level? IC is the only company where the value of a board goes up with a sanded off graphic.
he clearly doesnt know you can just heat transfer over a graphic with another. waste of time and money.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sizzle on October 16, 2022, 11:47:26 AM
Carbon steel pans are very similar and a nice lighter alternative to cast iron, probably good for camping trips etc.

That's my contribution to the cast iron pan thread.

(https://i.imgflip.com/6x4os0.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: A Not At All Naughty Chemist on October 16, 2022, 12:39:57 PM
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I do a little bit worry that that dude is getting brigaded right now. He's kooky but that shit can be pretty fucking debilitating especially if you're head maybe isn't totally glued on right.

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what is Mikey's background and how did he end up connected in the industry? Where did he come from?  I feel like he just kind of appeared a few years ago. He can barely skate and has no legitimate talent. Did he have some sort of financial backing to buy into the industry? Is he a Hollywood plant?
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Mikey's mom was the personal assistant to Robert Evans who was kinda the last Hollywood studio mogul before the corporations started buying up all the studios. Broad stokes; the deal with him was that the studio system basically collapsed in the wake of the cultural change of the 60s. Evans was the guy who knew how to look at potential movies and see if they would hit with a big audience, even if on paper they seemed like a wild pitch. Packages like Roman Polanski directing Rosemary's Baby (a huge hit) woulda never happened without Evan's involvement. It would have almost certainly gone to some aging but reliable director with the movie most likely forgotten today. And then there's The Godfather. It was a trashy checkout line bestseller and somehow Coppola made what he made and a lot of that was Evan's guidance as well. He could make hits when the other studios had mostly collapsed trying to.

Part of me thinks Mikey is aware of Robert Evan's ability to parse cultural change and turn it into revenue and that he aspires to do the same. Pretty crummy track record so far though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJsiZ_0EaW8
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hey thanks for the response. this makes total sense now that you've made the connection. so he's a Hollywood wanna be who settled in the skate industry pretty much... I never realized he can't actually skate, but then again I didn't know much about him at all. I always thought he was the filmer who realized he wasn't gonna be pro but could still rip on some level.

I also get what you're saying about the shit storm racking him mentally. I don't wish poor mental health or an episode on the guy,  but if you can't handle criticism (but openly welcome public praise) you shouldn't be a public figure or run a business that plays so heavily into public feedback. Most people aren't really cut out for that shit.

Edit:

At around 2 mins he outs himself as another typical Hollywood entertainment kook that only associates himself with people that he can get something out of. The funny thing is he thinks he's saying something profound when really he sounds scummy and opportunistic. People like this give off the most disingenuous and needy vibes. Yeah, needy is exactly the word I'd use to describe him after watching this. What a strange guy.


http://youtu.be/IGm4ZCD5h_0


(https://i.ibb.co/grkK8CY/Screenshot-2022-10-16-at-21-36-33.png)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: grassblade on October 16, 2022, 12:58:23 PM
Baker quietly stopped distributing them a bit ago

everything they’ve taken a chance on ended up a bust:

-917 (fell apart right as they took it on)
-Birdhouse (lost Saturdays steam as they took it on)
-IC
-Heroin (who the fuck buys it?!?)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: shouldn't on October 16, 2022, 01:37:06 PM
Baker quietly stopped distributing them a bit ago

everything they’ve taken a chance on ended up a bust:

-917 (fell apart right as they took it on)
-Birdhouse (lost Saturdays steam as they took it on)
-IC
-Heroin (who the fuck buys it?!?)
older dudes obsessed with the egg shape & slappies. other than that not sure.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on October 16, 2022, 01:41:54 PM
Baker quietly stopped distributing them a bit ago

everything they’ve taken a chance on ended up a bust:

-917 (fell apart right as they took it on)
-Birdhouse (lost Saturdays steam as they took it on)
-IC
-Heroin (who the fuck buys it?!?)
Not to blow your theory out but Heroin is a success story and huge with the 30 and up crowd. Their drops sell through pretty consistently.

It seems like Bakerboys is down to do a distro deal for a drop or two and see how it goes. Honestly it's a legit way to do it. MaxAllure was also distroed through them for a time but has something else set up now. They haven't imploded and are still building the brand. You've got a point about 917, IC and Birdhouse but I think those fell apart more due to the brand manager (in this case Mikey) not putting in the work to sell a full drop through.

Mikey has been living rent free in my head for the past 24 hours or so. Does Illegal Civ I exist? I tried to find it and didn't see anything. It also doesn't have an entry on Skatevideosite whereas 2 and 3 do.

My pet theory now is that, through the Nak connection, Mikey was able to deliver the follow up to Cherry right after Cherry came out when hype was at a maximum. Cherry and Illegal Civilization 2 both come out in 2014 but Nak is in IC videos dating back to at least 2012. Apparently the Supreme kids weren't affiliated with IC but you wouldn't know it from watching IC2. They're all over it - the intro, full parts, end credits. Basically, IC as a brand was in the right place, right time but, full credit where it's due, Mikey shot a lot of that video and edited all of it and also has a pretty mid line at the very end. He was at one point a skate filmer.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: breezer on October 16, 2022, 01:43:20 PM
I do a little bit worry that that dude is getting brigaded right now. He's kooky but that shit can be pretty fucking debilitating especially if you're head maybe isn't totally glued on right.

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what is Mikey's background and how did he end up connected in the industry? Where did he come from?  I feel like he just kind of appeared a few years ago. He can barely skate and has no legitimate talent. Did he have some sort of financial backing to buy into the industry? Is he a Hollywood plant?
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Mikey's mom was the personal assistant to Robert Evans who was kinda the last Hollywood studio mogul before the corporations started buying up all the studios. Broad stokes; the deal with him was that the studio system basically collapsed in the wake of the cultural change of the 60s. Evans was the guy who knew how to look at potential movies and see if they would hit with a big audience, even if on paper they seemed like a wild pitch. Packages like Roman Polanski directing Rosemary's Baby (a huge hit) woulda never happened without Evan's involvement. It would have almost certainly gone to some aging but reliable director with the movie most likely forgotten today. And then there's The Godfather. It was a trashy checkout line bestseller and somehow Coppola made what he made and a lot of that was Evan's guidance as well. He could make hits when the other studios had mostly collapsed trying to.

Part of me thinks Mikey is aware of Robert Evan's ability to parse cultural change and turn it into revenue and that he aspires to do the same. Pretty crummy track record so far though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJsiZ_0EaW8

great post!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DarkPools on October 16, 2022, 02:01:04 PM
Baker quietly stopped distributing them a bit ago

everything they’ve taken a chance on ended up a bust:

-917 (fell apart right as they took it on)
-Birdhouse (lost Saturdays steam as they took it on)
-IC
-Heroin (who the fuck buys it?!?)

917 was a niche project by Alex Olson and never appeared to be something that would garner large scale attention the big brands.

Birdhouse is in a constant state of limbo of medial success because of Tony. Has little to do with Bakerboys other than just being a different woodshop/parent distribution thing. It's not a bust, though.

IC was dogshit regardless of Bakerboys taking them on.

Heroin has been hugely successful for a small brand with the 30+ crowd but also many people in their 20s, top.

What a weird take
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: OldSkater on October 16, 2022, 03:35:31 PM
Baker quietly stopped distributing them a bit ago

everything they’ve taken a chance on ended up a bust:

-917 (fell apart right as they took it on)
-Birdhouse (lost Saturdays steam as they took it on)
-IC
-Heroin (who the fuck buys it?!?)

there are a lot of people buying heroin
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: camel filters on October 16, 2022, 03:57:51 PM
older dudes obsessed with the egg shape & slappies. other than that not sure.
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Baker quietly stopped distributing them a bit ago

everything they’ve taken a chance on ended up a bust:

-917 (fell apart right as they took it on)
-Birdhouse (lost Saturdays steam as they took it on)
-IC
-Heroin (who the fuck buys it?!?)
[close]

there are a lot of people buying heroin
Username checks out.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 16, 2022, 04:13:32 PM
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Baker quietly stopped distributing them a bit ago

everything they’ve taken a chance on ended up a bust:

-917 (fell apart right as they took it on)
-Birdhouse (lost Saturdays steam as they took it on)
-IC
-Heroin (who the fuck buys it?!?)
[close]

there are a lot of people buying heroin

tip your waitress
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: bob george on October 16, 2022, 04:16:54 PM
i was one time pulled over {australia} by the police for having a heroin sticker on my car. they asked me to remove it and also asked if i had any drugs in the car. i told them i had no heroin. i did not remove the sticker. was a weird one...
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on October 16, 2022, 04:24:18 PM
i was one time pulled over {australia} by the police for having a heroin sticker on my car. they asked me to remove it and also asked if i had any drugs in the car. i told them i had no heroin. i did not remove the sticker. was a weird one...

It’s a dumb name and their graphics are shit but I back the company. Their egg shapes are the best.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sizzle on October 16, 2022, 04:42:14 PM
I could never buy one I get you’ll probably scrape the name off but the name is so cringe and in the worst taste I can’t get over it

Imagine having to explain to your grandma you bought a heroin skateboard, plus not to get too bleeding heart about things but why would any adult be that cavalier about stuff like that, it’s like starting cancer skateboards

I feel the same way about Fucking Awesome in a way, name is too cringe to explain to somebody who doesn’t skate

I understand you can’t let everyone’s opinion dictate every aspect of your life but certain stuff I’m like cmon grow up man, like people wearing clothes with weed shit and swear words all over them, like cmon man. Hate to sound like an old guy but people like that need to grow the fuck up sometimes. Just be respectful of people’s mental space. What if some guy had a relative with a bad heroin addiction and he’s already stressed about it then he opens some skateboard media and sees a heroin ad. That seems like a bummer. I said cancer but what about Miscarriage Skateboards? Like why would you even do that. Just fucking weird, like you couldn’t come up with a single better idea for a brand than just evil shit? You thirteen years old bro? Just annoyed and on a rant. Whoever started this shit is lame. Shapes look cool though
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: offkilter on October 16, 2022, 04:48:30 PM
I do a little bit worry that that dude is getting brigaded right now. He's kooky but that shit can be pretty fucking debilitating especially if you're head maybe isn't totally glued on right.

A fall from popularity is going to crush him, it's all he has.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GuessAgain? on October 16, 2022, 05:03:31 PM
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so he’s sanding off hundreds of ex-rider’s graphics in order to resell them as new? whole team leaves, he says he kicked them off because they weren’t promoting his shitty graphics/brand enough. assorts a new squad of children as the team because they’re of the same mindset & are too young to see the graphics as a child’s garbage art. even before all of that, he publicly trash talks spike jonze in an interview to seem edgy and gain more attention. i hope he’s teaching business/art classes soon, he’s obviously very well versed.
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won't sanding graphics off diminish the quality of the wood on some level? IC is the only company where the value of a board goes up with a sanded off graphic.
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he clearly doesnt know you can just heat transfer over a graphic with another. waste of time and money.

Hey man keep it down! I like to think some guys out there are hustling a few extra bucks out of this bozo for ‘sanding down the decks’. Don’t blow their cover like that!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on October 16, 2022, 05:32:28 PM
I could never buy one I get you’ll probably scrape the name off but the name is so cringe and in the worst taste I can’t get over it

Imagine having to explain to your grandma you bought a heroin skateboard, plus not to get too bleeding heart about things but why would any adult be that cavalier about stuff like that, it’s like starting cancer skateboards

I feel the same way about Fucking Awesome in a way, name is too cringe to explain to somebody who doesn’t skate

I understand you can’t let everyone’s opinion dictate every aspect of your life but certain stuff I’m like cmon grow up man, like people wearing clothes with weed shit and swear words all over them, like cmon man. Hate to sound like an old guy but people like that need to grow the fuck up sometimes. Just be respectful of people’s mental space. What if some guy had a relative with a bad heroin addiction and he’s already stressed about it then he opens some skateboard media and sees a heroin ad. That seems like a bummer. I said cancer but what about Miscarriage Skateboards? Like why would you even do that. Just fucking weird, like you couldn’t come up with a single better idea for a brand than just evil shit? You thirteen years old bro? Just annoyed and on a rant. Whoever started this shit is lame. Shapes look cool though

Yeah, I feel ya.  It's embarrassing, but when you can get one of the shapes for 30% off and have some sandpaper, it's all good.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on October 16, 2022, 05:42:15 PM
I could never buy one I get you’ll probably scrape the name off but the name is so cringe and in the worst taste I can’t get over it

Imagine having to explain to your grandma you bought a heroin skateboard, plus not to get too bleeding heart about things but why would any adult be that cavalier about stuff like that, it’s like starting cancer skateboards

I feel the same way about Fucking Awesome in a way, name is too cringe to explain to somebody who doesn’t skate

I understand you can’t let everyone’s opinion dictate every aspect of your life but certain stuff I’m like cmon grow up man, like people wearing clothes with weed shit and swear words all over them, like cmon man. Hate to sound like an old guy but people like that need to grow the fuck up sometimes. Just be respectful of people’s mental space. What if some guy had a relative with a bad heroin addiction and he’s already stressed about it then he opens some skateboard media and sees a heroin ad. That seems like a bummer. I said cancer but what about Miscarriage Skateboards? Like why would you even do that. Just fucking weird, like you couldn’t come up with a single better idea for a brand than just evil shit? You thirteen years old bro? Just annoyed and on a rant. Whoever started this shit is lame. Shapes look cool though
i understand the sentiment and i’m aware of the hardships related to such and i can’t and don’t speak for anyone other than myself but my mom died from heroin 3 years ago and i still am stoked to see heroin boards at the shop. they’re great boards with good shapes and graphics. but shit man fuck it im addicted to skateboarding it’s running my veins
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 16, 2022, 07:12:23 PM
I could never buy one I get you’ll probably scrape the name off but the name is so cringe and in the worst taste I can’t get over it

Imagine having to explain to your grandma you bought a heroin skateboard, plus not to get too bleeding heart about things but why would any adult be that cavalier about stuff like that, it’s like starting cancer skateboards

I feel the same way about Fucking Awesome in a way, name is too cringe to explain to somebody who doesn’t skate

I understand you can’t let everyone’s opinion dictate every aspect of your life but certain stuff I’m like cmon grow up man, like people wearing clothes with weed shit and swear words all over them, like cmon man. Hate to sound like an old guy but people like that need to grow the fuck up sometimes. Just be respectful of people’s mental space. What if some guy had a relative with a bad heroin addiction and he’s already stressed about it then he opens some skateboard media and sees a heroin ad. That seems like a bummer. I said cancer but what about Miscarriage Skateboards? Like why would you even do that. Just fucking weird, like you couldn’t come up with a single better idea for a brand than just evil shit? You thirteen years old bro? Just annoyed and on a rant. Whoever started this shit is lame. Shapes look cool though

I get what you're saying but that is 100% that person's responsibility to handle those potential emotions/ thoughts that may arise. This is the same as people getting mad at jokes in a comedy club because they're "going through something." It's a slippery slope that ultimately leads to censorship.

If I had a weird thing about mayonnaise that triggered me whenever I saw it, I wouldn't get angry because someone at a restaurant ordered a hamburger.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: EdLawndale on October 16, 2022, 08:46:25 PM
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I could never buy one I get you’ll probably scrape the name off but the name is so cringe and in the worst taste I can’t get over it

Imagine having to explain to your grandma you bought a heroin skateboard, plus not to get too bleeding heart about things but why would any adult be that cavalier about stuff like that, it’s like starting cancer skateboards

I feel the same way about Fucking Awesome in a way, name is too cringe to explain to somebody who doesn’t skate

I understand you can’t let everyone’s opinion dictate every aspect of your life but certain stuff I’m like cmon grow up man, like people wearing clothes with weed shit and swear words all over them, like cmon man. Hate to sound like an old guy but people like that need to grow the fuck up sometimes. Just be respectful of people’s mental space. What if some guy had a relative with a bad heroin addiction and he’s already stressed about it then he opens some skateboard media and sees a heroin ad. That seems like a bummer. I said cancer but what about Miscarriage Skateboards? Like why would you even do that. Just fucking weird, like you couldn’t come up with a single better idea for a brand than just evil shit? You thirteen years old bro? Just annoyed and on a rant. Whoever started this shit is lame. Shapes look cool though
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i understand the sentiment and i’m aware of the hardships related to such and i can’t and don’t speak for anyone other than myself but my mom died from heroin 3 years ago and i still am stoked to see heroin boards at the shop. they’re great boards with good shapes and graphics. but shit man fuck it im addicted to skateboarding it’s running my veins

Sorry to hear about your mom, man.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 16, 2022, 09:04:49 PM
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I could never buy one I get you’ll probably scrape the name off but the name is so cringe and in the worst taste I can’t get over it

Imagine having to explain to your grandma you bought a heroin skateboard, plus not to get too bleeding heart about things but why would any adult be that cavalier about stuff like that, it’s like starting cancer skateboards

I feel the same way about Fucking Awesome in a way, name is too cringe to explain to somebody who doesn’t skate

I understand you can’t let everyone’s opinion dictate every aspect of your life but certain stuff I’m like cmon grow up man, like people wearing clothes with weed shit and swear words all over them, like cmon man. Hate to sound like an old guy but people like that need to grow the fuck up sometimes. Just be respectful of people’s mental space. What if some guy had a relative with a bad heroin addiction and he’s already stressed about it then he opens some skateboard media and sees a heroin ad. That seems like a bummer. I said cancer but what about Miscarriage Skateboards? Like why would you even do that. Just fucking weird, like you couldn’t come up with a single better idea for a brand than just evil shit? You thirteen years old bro? Just annoyed and on a rant. Whoever started this shit is lame. Shapes look cool though
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I get what you're saying but that is 100% that person's responsibility to handle those potential emotions/ thoughts that may arise. This is the same as people getting mad at jokes in a comedy club because they're "going through something." It's a slippery slope that ultimately leads to censorship.

If I had a weird thing about mayonnaise that triggered me whenever I saw it, I wouldn't get angry because someone at a restaurant ordered a hamburger.

What if an unhoused person saw a Habitat ad?
What is a sweatshop worker saw a Toy Machine ad?
What if some woman in a restrictive red state saw a Plan B ad?
What is a visually-impaired person was told about a Blind ad?
What is some one with scoliosis saw a Krooked ad?
What if a facsimile saw a real ad?
What if a Pearl Harbor survivor saw an ad for Zero?
What is someone with OCD saw an ad for Disorder?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dannyprovolone on October 16, 2022, 09:06:00 PM
cancer skateboards sounds kind of rad
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 16, 2022, 09:56:49 PM
cancer skateboards sounds kind of rad

gonna be cancel skateboards if you keep talking that mess.

CANCELLED!!!!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: xrossings on October 17, 2022, 12:46:46 AM

Mikey has been living rent free in my head for the past 24 hours or so. Does Illegal Civ I exist? I tried to find it and didn't see anything. It also doesn't have an entry on Skatevideosite whereas 2 and 3 do.

I'm not sure why I did but I remember having illegal civ 1 downloaded to my pc I'm pretty sure it used to be easily found on Vimeo but I deleted that file a while ago so I can't reupload it anywhere
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 17, 2022, 05:45:08 AM
I have a good skate homie who used to be a street-level heroin user and he skated heroin skateboards. I’ve never brought it up to him but I do often find it to be a bit strange.

Why aren’t we discussing cast iron pans?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Mean salto on October 17, 2022, 05:52:43 AM
I have a good skate homie who used to be a street-level heroin user and he skated heroin skateboards. I’ve never brought it up to him but I do often find it to be a bit strange.

Why aren’t we discussing cast iron pans?
Maybe it was a bit like mr burns picking cereal.
Anyone got one of those cast irons with the enamel coating? Seen them around a fair bit lately but seems like it kinda defeats the purpose.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 17, 2022, 05:57:13 AM
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I have a good skate homie who used to be a street-level heroin user and he skated heroin skateboards. I’ve never brought it up to him but I do often find it to be a bit strange.

Why aren’t we discussing cast iron pans?
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Maybe it was a bit like mr burns picking cereal.
Anyone got one of those cast irons with the enamel coating? Seen them around a fair bit lately but seems like it kinda defeats the purpose.

One of the top thrift store disappointments is seeing some amazing enamel cast iron, grabbing it and realizing that someone donated it after they left it on the stovetop too long and now the enamel is destroyed. I’ve thought about trying to remove all the enamel but frankly I would have no idea where to even start and I hardly need another project.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Frontside Slappy on October 17, 2022, 06:07:41 AM
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I have a good skate homie who used to be a street-level heroin user and he skated heroin skateboards. I’ve never brought it up to him but I do often find it to be a bit strange.

Why aren’t we discussing cast iron pans?
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Maybe it was a bit like mr burns picking cereal.
Anyone got one of those cast irons with the enamel coating? Seen them around a fair bit lately but seems like it kinda defeats the purpose.
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One of the top thrift store disappointments is seeing some amazing enamel cast iron, grabbing it and realizing that someone donated it after they left it on the stovetop too long and now the enamel is destroyed. I’ve thought about trying to remove all the enamel but frankly I would have no idea where to even start and I hardly need another project.

I saw something from another user on a metal shop forum who had a similar issue, his solution was to wire brush the enamel and finish it off with a grinder before seasoning. Could be worth a shot if you find one that really catches your eye.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Hefe43 on October 17, 2022, 06:12:27 AM
I do a little bit worry that that dude is getting brigaded right now. He's kooky but that shit can be pretty fucking debilitating especially if you're head maybe isn't totally glued on right.

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what is Mikey's background and how did he end up connected in the industry? Where did he come from?  I feel like he just kind of appeared a few years ago. He can barely skate and has no legitimate talent. Did he have some sort of financial backing to buy into the industry? Is he a Hollywood plant?
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Mikey's mom was the personal assistant to Robert Evans who was kinda the last Hollywood studio mogul before the corporations started buying up all the studios. Broad stokes; the deal with him was that the studio system basically collapsed in the wake of the cultural change of the 60s. Evans was the guy who knew how to look at potential movies and see if they would hit with a big audience, even if on paper they seemed like a wild pitch. Packages like Roman Polanski directing Rosemary's Baby (a huge hit) woulda never happened without Evan's involvement. It would have almost certainly gone to some aging but reliable director with the movie most likely forgotten today. And then there's The Godfather. It was a trashy checkout line bestseller and somehow Coppola made what he made and a lot of that was Evan's guidance as well. He could make hits when the other studios had mostly collapsed trying to.

Part of me thinks Mikey is aware of Robert Evan's ability to parse cultural change and turn it into revenue and that he aspires to do the same. Pretty crummy track record so far though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJsiZ_0EaW8

That Robert Evans, he banged them, didn’t he?  He banged them all
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Roisto on October 17, 2022, 09:10:43 AM
Isn’t the story behind the name Heroin Skateboards something like Fos said skateboarding is his heroin, he’s addicted to it and doesn’t need drugs to enjoy it and the point isn’t about glorifying drug use or anything like that? I’m fine with the name but then again I don’t think I’ve ever even known anyone who’s done heroin.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: augustmoon on October 17, 2022, 09:30:32 AM
I could never buy one I get you’ll probably scrape the name off but the name is so cringe and in the worst taste I can’t get over it

Imagine having to explain to your grandma you bought a heroin skateboard, plus not to get too bleeding heart about things but why would any adult be that cavalier about stuff like that, it’s like starting cancer skateboards

I feel the same way about Fucking Awesome in a way, name is too cringe to explain to somebody who doesn’t skate

I understand you can’t let everyone’s opinion dictate every aspect of your life but certain stuff I’m like cmon grow up man, like people wearing clothes with weed shit and swear words all over them, like cmon man. Hate to sound like an old guy but people like that need to grow the fuck up sometimes. Just be respectful of people’s mental space. What if some guy had a relative with a bad heroin addiction and he’s already stressed about it then he opens some skateboard media and sees a heroin ad. That seems like a bummer. I said cancer but what about Miscarriage Skateboards? Like why would you even do that. Just fucking weird, like you couldn’t come up with a single better idea for a brand than just evil shit? You thirteen years old bro? Just annoyed and on a rant. Whoever started this shit is lame. Shapes look cool though

Wtf are you rambling about
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on October 17, 2022, 11:03:06 AM
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I could never buy one I get you’ll probably scrape the name off but the name is so cringe and in the worst taste I can’t get over it

Imagine having to explain to your grandma you bought a heroin skateboard, plus not to get too bleeding heart about things but why would any adult be that cavalier about stuff like that, it’s like starting cancer skateboards

I feel the same way about Fucking Awesome in a way, name is too cringe to explain to somebody who doesn’t skate

I understand you can’t let everyone’s opinion dictate every aspect of your life but certain stuff I’m like cmon grow up man, like people wearing clothes with weed shit and swear words all over them, like cmon man. Hate to sound like an old guy but people like that need to grow the fuck up sometimes. Just be respectful of people’s mental space. What if some guy had a relative with a bad heroin addiction and he’s already stressed about it then he opens some skateboard media and sees a heroin ad. That seems like a bummer. I said cancer but what about Miscarriage Skateboards? Like why would you even do that. Just fucking weird, like you couldn’t come up with a single better idea for a brand than just evil shit? You thirteen years old bro? Just annoyed and on a rant. Whoever started this shit is lame. Shapes look cool though
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Wtf are you rambling about
Just the same shit that's been argued about here regarding Heroin ad nauseam.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 17, 2022, 11:27:47 AM
Heroin-schmeroin… is it really so hard to grock what Fos has alluded to with his company’s branding?
This shit is wicked addicting.

Mind blowing, I know.
But of course, we are obliged to uphold skateboarding’s pristine legacy of good taste, so into the dustbin with Heroin, it is.

But before we chuck this company, i should point out that I didn’t see anybody wringing their hands in anxiety when Illegal Civilization made the skate world an uncomfortable place to negotiate for ex-felons/reformed convicts trying to straighten their post-lock-up lives out.

Probably pretty difficult to navigate society when a skate graphic can trigger you & send you spiraling right back to the nefarious life you left behind in the slammer.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 17, 2022, 11:31:28 AM
Also, somebody tell me again why this dude smoking weed with 13 year olds?!?
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Post by: Gene_Harrogate on October 17, 2022, 11:37:31 AM
Also, somebody tell me again why this dude smoking weed with 13 year olds?!?
Just a good ol fashioned desperate attempt to cling to relevance through kids too young and impressionable to know how much of a kook he is.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Owen on October 17, 2022, 11:45:36 AM
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I have a good skate homie who used to be a street-level heroin user and he skated heroin skateboards. I’ve never brought it up to him but I do often find it to be a bit strange.

Why aren’t we discussing cast iron pans?
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Maybe it was a bit like mr burns picking cereal.
Anyone got one of those cast irons with the enamel coating? Seen them around a fair bit lately but seems like it kinda defeats the purpose.

We've got a couple of enamel coated caste iron pots and they're great.

I've also got a couple of traditional style caste iron pots and a pan and they are also great but I mainly use them for camping when I'm cooking on or in a campfire.

I'm not exactly sure what the exact benefit of the enamel coated stuff might be over a regular caste iron pot. I guess you don't have to season them or worry about them rusting and you can clean them with soap whilst still getting the evenly distributed heat of a caste iron pan.

I wouldn't so I'm a massive advocate of enamel coated pots and wouldn't have access to them if my partner hadn't of bought them but they are definitely nice to cook with.

Not sure sure why all this Mikey A talk is going on in here. Make a new thread for this gimp
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pdknox on October 17, 2022, 11:48:05 AM
Also, somebody tell me again why this dude smoking weed with 13 year olds?!?

bro its cool its legal in cali
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 17, 2022, 11:52:18 AM
Also, somebody tell me again why this dude smoking weed with 13 year olds?!?

Because he's delusional and desperate.

He referred to North Hollywood as a "success" if that is any indication of how grounded in reality this guy is.

Weird ass dork.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on October 17, 2022, 11:58:17 AM
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I have a good skate homie who used to be a street-level heroin user and he skated heroin skateboards. I’ve never brought it up to him but I do often find it to be a bit strange.

Why aren’t we discussing cast iron pans?
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Maybe it was a bit like mr burns picking cereal.
Anyone got one of those cast irons with the enamel coating? Seen them around a fair bit lately but seems like it kinda defeats the purpose.
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We've got a couple of enamel coated caste iron pots and they're great.

I've also got a couple of traditional style caste iron pots and a pan and they are also great but I mainly use them for camping when I'm cooking on or in a campfire.

I'm not exactly sure what the exact benefit of the enamel coated stuff might be over a regular caste iron pot. I guess you don't have to season them or worry about them rusting and you can clean them with soap whilst still getting the evenly distributed heat of a caste iron pan.

I wouldn't so I'm a massive advocate of enamel coated pots and wouldn't have access to them if my partner hadn't of bought them but they are definitely nice to cook with.

Not sure sure why all this Mikey A talk is going on in here. Make a new thread for this gimp
i've had enamel coated pans before, i dont really like them. sure, theyre more nonstick than a shitty cast iron, but not really any better than a well-seasoned cast iron. and unlike regular cast iron they don't really go well with anything abrasive, so when they inevitably get gunked up they take forever to gently clean.

there are some exceptions tho. like for stews they're great because anything that gets stuck when sauteeing will get loosened up while simmering for the next few hours. they're good for baking bread too. but idk, maybe i just don't get it. i'm not a great cook tbh
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 17, 2022, 12:15:02 PM
Also, somebody tell me again why this dude smoking weed with 13 year olds?!?

He's keeping the classic Hollywood tradition of drugging and exploiting kids going. At least he hasn't forgotten where he came from!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on October 17, 2022, 12:16:46 PM
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I have a good skate homie who used to be a street-level heroin user and he skated heroin skateboards. I’ve never brought it up to him but I do often find it to be a bit strange.

Why aren’t we discussing cast iron pans?
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Maybe it was a bit like mr burns picking cereal.
Anyone got one of those cast irons with the enamel coating? Seen them around a fair bit lately but seems like it kinda defeats the purpose.
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We've got a couple of enamel coated caste iron pots and they're great.

I've also got a couple of traditional style caste iron pots and a pan and they are also great but I mainly use them for camping when I'm cooking on or in a campfire.

I'm not exactly sure what the exact benefit of the enamel coated stuff might be over a regular caste iron pot. I guess you don't have to season them or worry about them rusting and you can clean them with soap whilst still getting the evenly distributed heat of a caste iron pan.

I wouldn't so I'm a massive advocate of enamel coated pots and wouldn't have access to them if my partner hadn't of bought them but they are definitely nice to cook with.

Not sure sure why all this Mikey A talk is going on in here. Make a new thread for this gimp
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i've had enamel coated pans before, i dont really like them. sure, theyre more nonstick than a shitty cast iron, but not really any better than a well-seasoned cast iron. and unlike regular cast iron they don't really go well with anything abrasive, so when they inevitably get gunked up they take forever to gently clean.

there are some exceptions tho. like for stews they're great because anything that gets stuck when sauteeing will get loosened up while simmering for the next few hours. they're good for baking bread too. but idk, maybe i just don't get it. i'm not a great cook tbh

Yeah this is exactly right. The only enameled cast iron I have is my dutch oven. it's the best for curry or stews or red beans and rice, anything you want to simmer for a while. I have also heard you can bake in them but I haven't tried that.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: h00man on October 17, 2022, 01:29:44 PM
lol wait did his North Hollywood movie ever release anywhere???

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: smellsdead on October 17, 2022, 01:40:19 PM

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.

This story is based where the skateboard culture is the most foreign, the Midwest. Derrick Cabrera, like all skaters, has a dream of being sponsored and one day going pro. He is an up and coming skater with all the talent but has the world against him. Parents, friends and schoolmates can't understand how Derrick has so much passion for something that has no future in their eyes. His crew of friends that are skaters is the only place he is truly accepted. But, as he gets better and better, the skater he looked up to the most becomes his worst enemy. In the sport of skateboarding a single trick that has never been done or conceived can bring you stardom in an instant. Derrick has that trick, if only he can make it. As he attempts to make this trick he is faced with skateproofing, a jealous friend and cops who have it in for him. Derrick finally gets arrested for skating on private property. After that his parents lay down the law and try to force him to quit skateboarding. Adding insult to injury, his girlfriend forces an ultimatum on him as well: "The skateboard or life with her." At that point, Derrick gives up everything and runs away with his friends to the Tampa Am contest in Florida. This is a weekend that can turn an unknown skateboarder into a future star. He sees it as his only shot to make it in skateboarding. Derrick's rivalry comes to a head in Florida when his crew of friends abandons him because of his jealous mentor. A top amateur's sister rescues Derrick by giving him a place to stay and convincing him to believe in himself. With all the world of skateboarding watching, Derrick finally makes the trick that shocks the entire skate world and instantly thrusts him into the spotlight. His dream of being sponsored has come true.
—Rob Dyrdek

slow your roll

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yt6-TTlB5a8
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: figureitout on October 17, 2022, 01:51:50 PM
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Also, somebody tell me again why this dude smoking weed with 13 year olds?!?
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He's keeping the classic Hollywood tradition of drugging and exploiting kids going. At least he hasn't forgotten where he came from!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on October 17, 2022, 02:02:34 PM
lol wait did his North Hollywood movie ever release anywhere???

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.

it’s on amazon prime or hulu. i forget which one. i shit you not, bobby worrest and miranda cosgrove both have pretty big roles in it. fuck it’s so bad
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GAY on October 17, 2022, 02:53:58 PM
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Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.
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This story is based where the skateboard culture is the most foreign, the Midwest. Derrick Cabrera, like all skaters, has a dream of being sponsored and one day going pro. He is an up and coming skater with all the talent but has the world against him. Parents, friends and schoolmates can't understand how Derrick has so much passion for something that has no future in their eyes. His crew of friends that are skaters is the only place he is truly accepted. But, as he gets better and better, the skater he looked up to the most becomes his worst enemy. In the sport of skateboarding a single trick that has never been done or conceived can bring you stardom in an instant. Derrick has that trick, if only he can make it. As he attempts to make this trick he is faced with skateproofing, a jealous friend and cops who have it in for him. Derrick finally gets arrested for skating on private property. After that his parents lay down the law and try to force him to quit skateboarding. Adding insult to injury, his girlfriend forces an ultimatum on him as well: "The skateboard or life with her." At that point, Derrick gives up everything and runs away with his friends to the Tampa Am contest in Florida. This is a weekend that can turn an unknown skateboarder into a future star. He sees it as his only shot to make it in skateboarding. Derrick's rivalry comes to a head in Florida when his crew of friends abandons him because of his jealous mentor. A top amateur's sister rescues Derrick by giving him a place to stay and convincing him to believe in himself. With all the world of skateboarding watching, Derrick finally makes the trick that shocks the entire skate world and instantly thrusts him into the spotlight. His dream of being sponsored has come true.
—Rob Dyrdek

slow your roll

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yt6-TTlB5a8

"Stweet Dweems"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SatanicPanic on October 17, 2022, 03:06:11 PM
lol wait did his North Hollywood movie ever release anywhere???

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.
North Shore is a rad movie. I know it’s about surfing and becoming a pro-surfer but I could see someone, somewhere making a good movie about becoming a pro skater.

Like here’s a plot- some dweeb from Iowa who wins his local contest so he movies to SF. Then he gets bullied by like, some GX pros but Frank Gerwer takes him under his wings and dweeb has to learn to hill bomb on a variety of weird 80s and shaped decks. Finally Frank hooks him up with a Krooked board that he shaped himself and now the kid shreds and earns the respect of the SF crowd.  But in the end he decides to move to NYC to become an artist.
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Post by: Welpok on October 17, 2022, 03:24:30 PM
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lol wait did his North Hollywood movie ever release anywhere???

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.
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North Shore is a rad movie. I know it’s about surfing and becoming a pro-surfer but I could see someone, somewhere making a good movie about becoming a pro skater.

Like here’s a plot- some dweeb from Iowa who wins his local contest so he movies to SF. Then he gets bullied by like, some GX pros but Frank Gerwer takes him under his wings and dweeb has to learn to hill bomb on a variety of weird 80s and shaped decks. Finally Frank hooks him up with a Krooked board that he shaped himself and now the kid shreds and earns the respect of the SF crowd.  But in the end he decides to move to NYC to become an artist.
Based on a true story
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Post by: Lou Strux on October 17, 2022, 03:30:40 PM
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lol wait did his North Hollywood movie ever release anywhere???

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.
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North Shore is a rad movie. I know it’s about surfing and becoming a pro-surfer but I could see someone, somewhere making a good movie about becoming a pro skater.

Like here’s a plot- some dweeb from Iowa who wins his local contest so he movies to SF. Then he gets bullied by like, some GX pros but Frank Gerwer takes him under his wings and dweeb has to learn to hill bomb on a variety of weird 80s and shaped decks. Finally Frank hooks him up with a Krooked board that he shaped himself and now the kid shreds and earns the respect of the SF crowd.  But in the end he decides to move to NYC to become an artist.
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Based on a true story
So very BASED.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Jean-Ralphio Zaperstein on October 17, 2022, 03:33:08 PM
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lol wait did his North Hollywood movie ever release anywhere???

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.
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North Shore is a rad movie. I know it’s about surfing and becoming a pro-surfer but I could see someone, somewhere making a good movie about becoming a pro skater.

Like here’s a plot- some dweeb from Iowa who wins his local contest so he movies to SF. Then he gets bullied by like, some GX pros but Frank Gerwer takes him under his wings and dweeb has to learn to hill bomb on a variety of weird 80s and shaped decks. Finally Frank hooks him up with a Krooked board that he shaped himself and now the kid shreds and earns the respect of the SF crowd.  But in the end he decides to move to NYC to become an artist.

It's called machotaildrop

https://mega.nz/file/XkFhUYQT#8KkJg8LB1wbgITEU8jMX-8pq2a-RM_dvD0hzKzFsldQ
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sacking rails on October 17, 2022, 03:33:34 PM
why are you saying based thats so dumb
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SatanicPanic on October 17, 2022, 04:37:03 PM
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lol wait did his North Hollywood movie ever release anywhere???

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.
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North Shore is a rad movie. I know it’s about surfing and becoming a pro-surfer but I could see someone, somewhere making a good movie about becoming a pro skater.

Like here’s a plot- some dweeb from Iowa who wins his local contest so he movies to SF. Then he gets bullied by like, some GX pros but Frank Gerwer takes him under his wings and dweeb has to learn to hill bomb on a variety of weird 80s and shaped decks. Finally Frank hooks him up with a Krooked board that he shaped himself and now the kid shreds and earns the respect of the SF crowd.  But in the end he decides to move to NYC to become an artist.
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Based on a true story
I like to think there’s a real Rick Kane from Tempe Arizona
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 17, 2022, 05:00:52 PM
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lol wait did his North Hollywood movie ever release anywhere???

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.
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North Shore is a rad movie. I know it’s about surfing and becoming a pro-surfer but I could see someone, somewhere making a good movie about becoming a pro skater.

Like here’s a plot- some dweeb from Iowa who wins his local contest so he movies to SF. Then he gets bullied by like, some GX pros but Frank Gerwer takes him under his wings and dweeb has to learn to hill bomb on a variety of weird 80s and shaped decks. Finally Frank hooks him up with a Krooked board that he shaped himself and now the kid shreds and earns the respect of the SF crowd.  But in the end he decides to move to NYC to become an artist.

Counterpoint - skate movies don’t have to be about turning pro, or dramatic coming of age tales, or “we’re poor and the only escape we have is when we’re skating”.   Skating is supposed to fun and with our buddies, easy to spin comedy off that
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jgonzalez on October 17, 2022, 05:03:21 PM
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lol wait did his North Hollywood movie ever release anywhere???

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.
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North Shore is a rad movie. I know it’s about surfing and becoming a pro-surfer but I could see someone, somewhere making a good movie about becoming a pro skater.

Like here’s a plot- some dweeb from Iowa who wins his local contest so he movies to SF. Then he gets bullied by like, some GX pros but Frank Gerwer takes him under his wings and dweeb has to learn to hill bomb on a variety of weird 80s and shaped decks. Finally Frank hooks him up with a Krooked board that he shaped himself and now the kid shreds and earns the respect of the SF crowd.  But in the end he decides to move to NYC to become an artist.
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Counterpoint - skate movies don’t have to be about turning pro, or dramatic coming of age tales, or “we’re poor and the only escape we have is when we’re skating”.   Skating is supposed to fun and with our buddies, easy to spin comedy off that

Rob Dyrdek is skatebord funny guy
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on October 17, 2022, 05:06:01 PM
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Mikey has been living rent free in my head for the past 24 hours or so. Does Illegal Civ I exist? I tried to find it and didn't see anything. It also doesn't have an entry on Skatevideosite whereas 2 and 3 do.
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I'm not sure why I did but I remember having illegal civ 1 downloaded to my pc I'm pretty sure it used to be easily found on Vimeo but I deleted that file a while ago so I can't reupload it anywhere
Thanks for confirming it existed. I had only seen 2 and wasn't sure if maybe 1 was more of a homie vid that didn't circulate as much.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on October 17, 2022, 05:31:17 PM
Mikey Alfred’s skull appears to be made of something much more durable than cast iron.
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Post by: veritas on October 17, 2022, 05:44:57 PM
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Also, somebody tell me again why this dude smoking weed with 13 year olds?!?
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He's keeping the classic Hollywood tradition of drugging and exploiting kids going. At least he hasn't forgotten where he came from!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Owen on October 17, 2022, 10:36:13 PM
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I have a good skate homie who used to be a street-level heroin user and he skated heroin skateboards. I’ve never brought it up to him but I do often find it to be a bit strange.

Why aren’t we discussing cast iron pans?
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Maybe it was a bit like mr burns picking cereal.
Anyone got one of those cast irons with the enamel coating? Seen them around a fair bit lately but seems like it kinda defeats the purpose.
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We've got a couple of enamel coated caste iron pots and they're great.

I've also got a couple of traditional style caste iron pots and a pan and they are also great but I mainly use them for camping when I'm cooking on or in a campfire.

I'm not exactly sure what the exact benefit of the enamel coated stuff might be over a regular caste iron pot. I guess you don't have to season them or worry about them rusting and you can clean them with soap whilst still getting the evenly distributed heat of a caste iron pan.

I wouldn't so I'm a massive advocate of enamel coated pots and wouldn't have access to them if my partner hadn't of bought them but they are definitely nice to cook with.

Not sure sure why all this Mikey A talk is going on in here. Make a new thread for this gimp
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i've had enamel coated pans before, i dont really like them. sure, theyre more nonstick than a shitty cast iron, but not really any better than a well-seasoned cast iron. and unlike regular cast iron they don't really go well with anything abrasive, so when they inevitably get gunked up they take forever to gently clean.

there are some exceptions tho. like for stews they're great because anything that gets stuck when sauteeing will get loosened up while simmering for the next few hours. they're good for baking bread too. but idk, maybe i just don't get it. i'm not a great cook tbh
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Yeah this is exactly right. The only enameled cast iron I have is my dutch oven. it's the best for curry or stews or red beans and rice, anything you want to simmer for a while. I have also heard you can bake in them but I haven't tried that.

Yep can also confirm that the enamel pots are great for stews and baking bread
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SHARPSHOOTER on October 18, 2022, 01:46:00 PM
Pretty sure IC1 had Nakel pissing on a homeless dude or something like that. Also a clip of a homeless guy jerking it. Perfect clips to show a young generation of skaters
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on October 18, 2022, 02:00:01 PM
Pretty sure IC1 had Nakel pissing on a homeless dude or something like that. Also a clip of a homeless guy jerking it. Perfect clips to show a young generation of skaters
Weirdly enough IC1 showed up in my recommendations on YT this morning. Data tracking is fucking creepy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6R1V29id00
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sold Out on October 18, 2022, 02:08:04 PM
Did Mikey Alfred delete his IG? Or did he just never have one and always use Illegal Civ?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on October 18, 2022, 02:40:30 PM
Mikey Alfred’s skull appears to be made of something much more durable than cast iron.
Doritos
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: formula420 on October 18, 2022, 02:47:13 PM
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lol wait did his North Hollywood movie ever release anywhere???

Why tf would any human want to watch a movie about "trying to become a pro skater"? What a terrible idea, from a terrible director. Fucking dork ass.
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North Shore is a rad movie. I know it’s about surfing and becoming a pro-surfer but I could see someone, somewhere making a good movie about becoming a pro skater.

Like here’s a plot- some dweeb from Iowa who wins his local contest so he movies to SF. Then he gets bullied by like, some GX pros but Frank Gerwer takes him under his wings and dweeb has to learn to hill bomb on a variety of weird 80s and shaped decks. Finally Frank hooks him up with a Krooked board that he shaped himself and now the kid shreds and earns the respect of the SF crowd.  But in the end he decides to move to NYC to become an artist.
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Counterpoint - skate movies don’t have to be about turning pro, or dramatic coming of age tales, or “we’re poor and the only escape we have is when we’re skating”.   Skating is supposed to fun and with our buddies, easy to spin comedy off that

As close to a good skate movie as we are going to get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-sWFZyVXFo&feature=share&utm_source=EJGixIgBCJiu2KjB4oSJEQ
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: work_lurker on October 18, 2022, 05:25:49 PM
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i was one time pulled over {australia} by the police for having a heroin sticker on my car. they asked me to remove it and also asked if i had any drugs in the car. i told them i had no heroin. i did not remove the sticker. was a weird one...
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It’s a dumb name and their graphics are shit but I back the company. Their egg shapes are the best.

It's an ode to the addictiveness of skateboarding, and how it takes a hold of you like a drug addiction would. With Heroin and skateboarding both being very habit-forming, I think it's a super clever name. Plus you can say stuff like "I love Heroin" and be coherent enough to see the disgusted looks on the faces around you. FOS does the graphics himself and they can be hit or miss, but I'd say a lot more hits than misses.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rukes on October 18, 2022, 05:35:18 PM
The glorification of alcohol in skateboarding is a lot more damaging than a company simply called 'Heroin'. From what I have seen it's a name only, the graphics and design in no way alludes to drug use whatsoever.

Also, my cast iron pan was starting to stick, so I oiled it up and put it in the oven a few times, and now it's as good as new. The best result was when I rubbed it with a bit of lard then baked it in. I've been making these omelettes with eggs from our chickens that are top notch, the egg just peels straight off that pan. No clean up needed, just wipe all the shit out with paper towel.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sizzle on October 18, 2022, 06:44:38 PM
It's an ode to the addictiveness of skateboarding, and how it takes a hold of you like a drug addiction would. With Heroin and skateboarding both being very habit-forming, I think it's a super clever name.

(https://media.tenor.com/BbAt2_vOS44AAAAC/seinfeld-jerryseinfeld.gif)

Plus you can say stuff like "I love Heroin" and be coherent enough to see the disgusted looks on the faces around you.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/wIxG3IrKaue8E/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e4788egaoq3b79czpta5wgncth8nd773usl01eytk6d&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 18, 2022, 07:29:16 PM
Also, my cast iron pan was starting to stick, so I oiled it up and put it in the oven a few times, and now it's as good as new. The best result was when I rubbed it with a bit of lard then baked it in. I've been making these omelettes with eggs from our chickens that are top notch, the egg just peels straight off that pan. No clean up needed, just wipe all the shit out with paper towel.

Looking forward to getting back here with my Le Creuset I accidentally left it on the range and I’ve reseasoned it but it’s just not yet back to where it was. Should probably intervene with the oven.
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Post by: passtheish on October 18, 2022, 08:11:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/kMJUMaw.png)
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Post by: Sizzle on October 18, 2022, 08:37:57 PM
i understand the sentiment and i’m aware of the hardships related to such and i can’t and don’t speak for anyone other than myself but my mom died from heroin 3 years ago and i still am stoked to see heroin boards at the shop.

Listen man i'm not telling you how to grieve but if my mom got eaten by a bear i probably wouldn't be buying a lot of fucking grizzly grip
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Post by: versacekid420 on October 18, 2022, 09:19:50 PM
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i understand the sentiment and i’m aware of the hardships related to such and i can’t and don’t speak for anyone other than myself but my mom died from heroin 3 years ago and i still am stoked to see heroin boards at the shop.
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Listen man i'm not telling you how to grieve but if my mom got eaten by a bear i probably wouldn't be buying a lot of fucking grizzly grip
hahahah fuck dude that was good i audibly laughed
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 18, 2022, 09:56:32 PM
Wasn’t B***k hyping up what a smart talent young man he was a few years back?
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Post by: Theme For A Jackal on October 19, 2022, 06:51:51 AM
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Also, my cast iron pan was starting to stick, so I oiled it up and put it in the oven a few times, and now it's as good as new. The best result was when I rubbed it with a bit of lard then baked it in. I've been making these omelettes with eggs from our chickens that are top notch, the egg just peels straight off that pan. No clean up needed, just wipe all the shit out with paper towel.
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Looking forward to getting back here with my Le Creuset I accidentally left it on the range and I’ve reseasoned it but it’s just not yet back to where it was. Should probably intervene with the oven.

Wait, how are you reseasoning without the oven? Just putting oil on it and letting it be?
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Post by: Rocuronium on October 20, 2022, 02:35:49 PM
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Also, my cast iron pan was starting to stick, so I oiled it up and put it in the oven a few times, and now it's as good as new. The best result was when I rubbed it with a bit of lard then baked it in. I've been making these omelettes with eggs from our chickens that are top notch, the egg just peels straight off that pan. No clean up needed, just wipe all the shit out with paper towel.
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Looking forward to getting back here with my Le Creuset I accidentally left it on the range and I’ve reseasoned it but it’s just not yet back to where it was. Should probably intervene with the oven.

Usually stuff slides right off, but sometimes they don't.
My next level of cleaning is rock salt +/- more oil
Next level after that is water,
After that water and soap ....
but then of course I have to slick it up again....  Only happens if someone cooks something super sticky.
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Post by: goodatmeth on October 20, 2022, 03:11:59 PM
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i understand the sentiment and i’m aware of the hardships related to such and i can’t and don’t speak for anyone other than myself but my mom died from heroin 3 years ago and i still am stoked to see heroin boards at the shop.
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Listen man i'm not telling you how to grieve but if my mom got eaten by a bear i probably wouldn't be buying a lot of fucking grizzly grip

That's one of the funniest things I've ever read on here. Gonna come back and gnar in the future
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Post by: i halfcab board ledges on October 20, 2022, 03:35:58 PM
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Baker quietly stopped distributing them a bit ago

everything they’ve taken a chance on ended up a bust:

-917 (fell apart right as they took it on)
-Birdhouse (lost Saturdays steam as they took it on)
-IC
-Heroin (who the fuck buys it?!?)
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there are a lot of people buying heroin

boss quote (me too)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: i used to skate on October 22, 2022, 06:01:07 PM
Nakel is posting cryptic things about Mikey on his story and Mikey is responding on his, less cryptically

Still can’t really tell what the issue is between them
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Post by: Youoverthere on October 22, 2022, 06:55:20 PM
Nakel is posting cryptic things about Mikey on his story and Mikey is responding on his, less cryptically

Still can’t really tell what the issue is between them
post it
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Post by: versacekid420 on October 22, 2022, 07:33:49 PM
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Nakel is posting cryptic things about Mikey on his story and Mikey is responding on his, less cryptically

Still can’t really tell what the issue is between them
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post it
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Post by: versacekid420 on October 22, 2022, 07:37:19 PM
nvm just saw it on the IC page. i’m with nak honestly
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Post by: radcunt on October 23, 2022, 06:22:08 AM
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i understand the sentiment and i’m aware of the hardships related to such and i can’t and don’t speak for anyone other than myself but my mom died from heroin 3 years ago and i still am stoked to see heroin boards at the shop.
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Listen man i'm not telling you how to grieve but if my mom got eaten by a bear i probably wouldn't be buying a lot of fucking grizzly grip


(https://cdn-prod.medicalnewstoday.com/content/images/articles/317/317645/feet-of-body-in-morgue-tray-with-label-on-toe.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: i used to skate on October 23, 2022, 08:01:04 AM
There wasn’t much to it, nakel said “if I’m crazy then where your day 1s at?” and Mikey said he dgaf what Nakel is mad about bc he’s only done amazing things for Nak since the day they met.

In other news, he brags about knowing someone who committed murder, but then apologizes on behalf of one of the new kids for the optics of breaking glass in an abandoned space and using double Cs in a caption

(https://i.ibb.co/fpnQn8M/5720-BE98-C016-40-A7-ABD0-4-AC578882803.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fpnQn8M)(https://i.ibb.co/JHhn6yc/93-D9-ACF3-630-E-4-A77-8379-C81-A73-C8-EF85.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JHhn6yc)(https://i.ibb.co/G5Ym4jD/D0-D53-FCE-65-A1-45-C9-813-F-54-A3-E71-C0-A65.png) (https://ibb.co/G5Ym4jD)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: EdLawndale on October 23, 2022, 09:08:32 AM
Whoever would have thought that such a cool brand as Illegal Civilization could fall of so hard?
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Post by: Rune Spliffberg on October 23, 2022, 11:08:44 AM
it's crazy cause, like, the triangle shape of a dorito can very much be used as a brand trajectory for IC. IC was only on the come up, eventually reaching their apex and full potential with the doritos collab, the upper point of metaphoric dorito triangle. Since, they have only experienced a steep decline, symbolized by the downward slope of the metaphoric dorito following its apex.
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Post by: Lou Strux on October 23, 2022, 11:28:33 AM
it's crazy cause, like, the triangle shape of a dorito can very much be used as a brand trajectory for IC. IC was only on the come up, eventually reaching their apex and full potential with the doritos collab, the upper point of metaphoric dorito triangle. Since, they have only experienced a steep decline, symbolized by the downward slope of the metaphoric dorito following its apex.
“There’s some thing that’s actually super powerful about the triangle shape.”  -Mikey Alfred
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Post by: OldSkater on October 23, 2022, 11:55:20 AM
it's crazy cause, like, the triangle shape of a dorito can very much be used as a brand trajectory for IC. IC was only on the come up, eventually reaching their apex and full potential with the doritos collab, the upper point of metaphoric dorito triangle. Since, they have only experienced a steep decline, symbolized by the downward slope of the metaphoric dorito following its apex.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/032/990/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: FatGuy92 on October 23, 2022, 12:28:55 PM
There wasn’t much to it, nakel said “if I’m crazy then where your day 1s at?” and Mikey said he dgaf what Nakel is mad about bc he’s only done amazing things for Nak since the day they met.

In other news, he brags about knowing someone who committed murder, but then apologizes on behalf of one of the new kids for the optics of breaking glass in an abandoned space and using double Cs in a caption

(https://i.ibb.co/fpnQn8M/5720-BE98-C016-40-A7-ABD0-4-AC578882803.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fpnQn8M)(https://i.ibb.co/JHhn6yc/93-D9-ACF3-630-E-4-A77-8379-C81-A73-C8-EF85.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JHhn6yc)(https://i.ibb.co/G5Ym4jD/D0-D53-FCE-65-A1-45-C9-813-F-54-A3-E71-C0-A65.png) (https://ibb.co/G5Ym4jD)

Last name is also Alfred so I'm assuming a relative. Corny af to pretend you're hard by riding on the coattails of someone else's misdeeds.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on October 23, 2022, 12:40:03 PM
Steve Urkel out here trying to brag about his dumb shit relative who’s probably doing 25-life for murdering another human being

Tell me more about the power of the triangle

Also looking forward to hearing him “perform some rap songs on the 25th”
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on October 23, 2022, 01:41:40 PM
his ig story is hot rn go look at it and that other dude he’s talking about it’s insane. i can’t post pictures from my phone
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dannyprovolone on October 23, 2022, 01:48:35 PM
post that shit mane what the fuck
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Bryanferry on October 23, 2022, 01:59:49 PM
https://ibb.co/ByLfC0M

Even his mums off him

Kinda gotta feeling it could turn dark
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: augustmoon on October 23, 2022, 02:19:01 PM
Dudes little empire is crumbling in real time
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SHARPSHOOTER on October 23, 2022, 02:23:30 PM
How the fuck did he get lunch with Dave Chappelle???
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TheDingus on October 23, 2022, 03:02:27 PM
How the fuck did he get lunch with Dave Chappelle???


Im sure dude just saw Dave in the wild and asked for a photo
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Pete on October 23, 2022, 04:01:30 PM
Most Van Nuys dude I’ve ever seenn. only thing that actually makes sense is he had family money to buy weed for all the homies/ a car before everyone that used to fuck with him started getting paid to skate and could afford their own weed and cars. Just a guess tho idk anything about this kid.
Pretty braindead to post your cousins (or whoever that is) charges and think youre flexing. Especially when you look like urkle.

Give it a month or less before he is [openly] on here arguing with trolls about Doritos and looking like Urkle. Should be funny


Free max b
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Cool Ceith on October 23, 2022, 04:13:22 PM
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i understand the sentiment and i’m aware of the hardships related to such and i can’t and don’t speak for anyone other than myself but my mom died from heroin 3 years ago and i still am stoked to see heroin boards at the shop.
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Listen man i'm not telling you how to grieve but if my mom got eaten by a bear i probably wouldn't be buying a lot of fucking grizzly grip
Wow, this is my favorite reply of the year so far.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: i used to skate on October 23, 2022, 05:46:15 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/XkzSh1J/78-B2-D9-D4-E310-4193-85-B1-F135-C0525507.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkzSh1J)

I’m assuming this is Kevin White. Mikey just unfollowed him (yeah I know)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Hefe43 on October 23, 2022, 06:08:49 PM
Most Van Nuys dude I’ve ever seenn. only thing that actually makes sense is he had family money to buy weed for all the homies/ a car before everyone that used to fuck with him started getting paid to skate and could afford their own weed and cars. Just a guess tho idk anything about this kid.
Pretty braindead to post your cousins (or whoever that is) charges and think youre flexing. Especially when you look like urkle.

Give it a month or less before he is [openly] on here arguing with trolls about Doritos and looking like Urkle. Should be funny


Free max b
Obviously you’ve never been to Van Nuys
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on October 23, 2022, 06:35:57 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/XkzSh1J/78-B2-D9-D4-E310-4193-85-B1-F135-C0525507.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkzSh1J)

I’m assuming this is Kevin White. Mikey just unfollowed him (yeah I know)

Good. I like Kevin white. Hopefully he can  get on something else. Literally anything is better than IC.

Also Mikey Alfred handles shit like a little bitch.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on October 23, 2022, 07:02:18 PM
Seems like Mikey is dealing with some mental health problems, really should just disconnect for a while.  Feels like it’s such a nosedive from his previous self I almost feel bad for him.  Hope he can turn it around and come back to earth, find happiness wherever that may be.  Seems like his relationship with skating has turned toxic, he should step away and pivot fully to do his fashion instagram brand thing or whatever, he almost fits in that world, but he’s done in skating.  He will realize that soon enough.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DERBY on October 23, 2022, 07:24:24 PM
Seems like Mikey is dealing with some mental health problems, really should just disconnect for a while.  Feels like it’s such a nosedive from his previous self I almost feel bad for him.  Hope he can turn it around and come back to earth, find happiness wherever that may be.  Seems like his relationship with skating has turned toxic, he should step away and pivot fully to do his fashion instagram brand thing or whatever, he almost fits in that world, but he’s done in skating.  He will realize that soon enough.

you’re right. he can say idgaf all he wants but idk it seems like he be giving a lot of those. idk him personally but dude it’s okay to admit if u be feelin some way. all that hard posturing is mad corny and is jus a disservice to himself
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on October 23, 2022, 08:47:59 PM
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Seems like Mikey is dealing with some mental health problems, really should just disconnect for a while.  Feels like it’s such a nosedive from his previous self I almost feel bad for him.  Hope he can turn it around and come back to earth, find happiness wherever that may be.  Seems like his relationship with skating has turned toxic, he should step away and pivot fully to do his fashion instagram brand thing or whatever, he almost fits in that world, but he’s done in skating.  He will realize that soon enough.
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you’re right. he can say idgaf all he wants but idk it seems like he be giving a lot of those. idk him personally but dude it’s okay to admit if u be feelin some way. all that hard posturing is mad corny and is jus a disservice to himself


Waiting for an anti semetic pivot tbh, ride that Kanye wave.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 23, 2022, 10:59:26 PM
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Seems like Mikey is dealing with some mental health problems, really should just disconnect for a while.  Feels like it’s such a nosedive from his previous self I almost feel bad for him.  Hope he can turn it around and come back to earth, find happiness wherever that may be.  Seems like his relationship with skating has turned toxic, he should step away and pivot fully to do his fashion instagram brand thing or whatever, he almost fits in that world, but he’s done in skating.  He will realize that soon enough.
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you’re right. he can say idgaf all he wants but idk it seems like he be giving a lot of those. idk him personally but dude it’s okay to admit if u be feelin some way. all that hard posturing is mad corny and is jus a disservice to himself

if I ran a once semi-successful brand or business, and literally all of my employees quit, I would be giving many many fucks. The "dgaf" stay hard attitude is merely a defense mechanism born out of fear of judgement. I genuinely don't believe that any long term good comes out of this way of thinking/ presenting yourself. Acting out of fear will lead you down a very unfulfilling path.

I hope Mikey finds his peace when all of this is said and done.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Pete on October 24, 2022, 02:16:29 AM
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Most Van Nuys dude I’ve ever seenn. only thing that actually makes sense is he had family money to buy weed for all the homies/ a car before everyone that used to fuck with him started getting paid to skate and could afford their own weed and cars. Just a guess tho idk anything about this kid.
Pretty braindead to post your cousins (or whoever that is) charges and think youre flexing. Especially when you look like urkle.

Give it a month or less before he is [openly] on here arguing with trolls about Doritos and looking like Urkle. Should be funny


Free max b
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Obviously you’ve never been to Van Nuys
Used to live there 7 years ago. Nothing but rich kids that look like Mikey Alfred/ OFWGDGAF type borons, and rich transplants living in huge apartments. But then be out all day eating fake Xanax. Maybe the vibe has shifted since then, it was peak hover boarding hours I think.

Free max b
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Beeda Weeda on October 24, 2022, 04:15:58 AM
I am almost 40, and in my personal experience on this earth, every single person who has told me they do not give a fuck, gives very many fucks.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 24, 2022, 05:32:08 AM
Seems like Mikey is dealing with some mental health problems, really should just disconnect for a while.  Feels like it’s such a nosedive from his previous self I almost feel bad for him.  Hope he can turn it around and come back to earth, find happiness wherever that may be.  Seems like his relationship with skating has turned toxic, he should step away and pivot fully to do his fashion instagram brand thing or whatever, he almost fits in that world, but he’s done in skating.  He will realize that soon enough.

Peter Principle at work.  People rise to the level of their incompetence
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TwisT on October 24, 2022, 05:44:43 AM


Now that I look into it. Godspeed, Alex and the boys turning pro, and IC going full in as as board brand all happened at the end of 2020.

I wonder if they all had 2 year contracts with shitty terms.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: backfliptofiftyfifty on October 24, 2022, 06:05:37 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/XkzSh1J/78-B2-D9-D4-E310-4193-85-B1-F135-C0525507.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkzSh1J)

I’m assuming this is Kevin White. Mikey just unfollowed him (yeah I know)
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Good. I like Kevin white. Hopefully he can  get on something else. Literally anything is better than IC.

Also Mikey Alfred handles shit like a little bitch.

Kevin's probably gonna hop on Hardies with Zach
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on October 24, 2022, 07:22:00 AM
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i understand the sentiment and i’m aware of the hardships related to such and i can’t and don’t speak for anyone other than myself but my mom died from heroin 3 years ago and i still am stoked to see heroin boards at the shop.
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Listen man i'm not telling you how to grieve but if my mom got eaten by a bear i probably wouldn't be buying a lot of fucking grizzly grip
a few people close to me have died from heroin ODs but it doesn't stop me from riding heroin boards; theyre cool shapes with decent graphics, what more do you need?

not trying to rock any heroin brand merch tho, seems pretty stupid to me. rolling down the street in a cartoon hand drawn "heroin" logo? nah man, whats next, slapping an "ISIS" sticker on my car? "SCHOOL SHOOTER" brand t shirt? i don't think so

but anyway let's get back on topic-- the carbon steel pan that I was complaining about a few months ago is a lot better now. i just needed to cook a few rounds of bacon in it. still not perfect, and i should probably season it properly, but it's incredible what a little bacon grease can do.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on October 24, 2022, 08:30:50 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/XkzSh1J/78-B2-D9-D4-E310-4193-85-B1-F135-C0525507.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkzSh1J)

I’m assuming this is Kevin White. Mikey just unfollowed him (yeah I know)
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Good. I like Kevin white. Hopefully he can  get on something else. Literally anything is better than IC.

Also Mikey Alfred handles shit like a little bitch.
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Kevin's probably gonna hop on Hardies with Zach

I like to think of Tyshawn as someone with good business acumen and adding two Illegal Civ leftovers that no other companies are checking for just doesnt seem like the way to generate interest in a brand
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on October 24, 2022, 08:32:31 AM
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i understand the sentiment and i’m aware of the hardships related to such and i can’t and don’t speak for anyone other than myself but my mom died from heroin 3 years ago and i still am stoked to see heroin boards at the shop.
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Listen man i'm not telling you how to grieve but if my mom got eaten by a bear i probably wouldn't be buying a lot of fucking grizzly grip
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a few people close to me have died from heroin ODs but it doesn't stop me from riding heroin boards; theyre cool shapes with decent graphics, what more do you need?

not trying to rock any heroin brand merch tho, seems pretty stupid to me. rolling down the street in a cartoon hand drawn "heroin" logo? nah man, whats next, slapping an "ISIS" sticker on my car? "SCHOOL SHOOTER" brand t shirt? i don't think so

but anyway let's get back on topic-- the carbon steel pan that I was complaining about a few months ago is a lot better now. i just needed to cook a few rounds of bacon in it. still not perfect, and i should probably season it properly, but it's incredible what a little bacon grease can do.
glad to see this brought back up. after my initial comment about the cast iron skillet i can now say we got ours seasoned to perfection
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HaveFunSkateboarding on October 24, 2022, 02:09:13 PM
Mikey Alfred charging Logan Kirshak $700,000 for his clips. Anyone else see this on Instagram just now? Go look at Logan’s Instagram.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: left knee cap on October 24, 2022, 02:16:26 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/XkzSh1J/78-B2-D9-D4-E310-4193-85-B1-F135-C0525507.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkzSh1J)

I’m assuming this is Kevin White. Mikey just unfollowed him (yeah I know)
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Good. I like Kevin white. Hopefully he can  get on something else. Literally anything is better than IC.

Also Mikey Alfred handles shit like a little bitch.

if that is the truth, makes me think about in his Followed interview he talked about how he had turned down FA so he can ride for Illegal Civ... probably had to rethink that one
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: formula420 on October 24, 2022, 02:17:42 PM
100k to pick up the camera for a day? This guy is burning every bridge he can
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sizzle on October 24, 2022, 02:38:29 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/tLV3Gd7/43961658-AD01-4-FEA-9-EBB-4-EC5528-F72-C2.png) (https://ibb.co/tLV3Gd7)
Mikey Alfred charging Logan Kirshak $700,000 for his clips. Anyone else see this on Instagram just now? Go look at Logan’s Instagram.

Best part is him trying to shit on a teenager for not having 700k on hand when I highly doubt he has 700k on hand either lol
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Yonnycage on October 24, 2022, 02:43:34 PM
Lmao I’d pay 100k a day for Mikey Alfred to never step foot in the same county as me. Someone eventually has to slap those stupid glasses off his face and bring him into the real world he’s bugging out.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: twic3 on October 24, 2022, 02:55:11 PM
Quote
Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is one of 10 personality disorders recognized in the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). NPD is one of the "Cluster B", or dramatic/erratic, personality disorders.

Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by the presence of five or more of the following symptoms:1

    -A sense of entitlement
    -An inflated sense of self-importance
    -Arrogant, egotistical, or haughty behavior
    -Envious of others or believes others are envious of them
    -Lack of empathy
    -Preoccupation with fantasies of success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
    -Requiring excessive admiration
    -Taking advantage of others
    -Believing that they are "special" and can only be understood by other special or high-status people
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GoneWithTheSchwinn on October 24, 2022, 03:28:01 PM
Someone get him some help if he thinks anyone is going to pay him (or anyone) 100k a day to film skating. Dan Wolfe deserves that day rate, not some dumbass LA cunt.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: augustmoon on October 24, 2022, 03:30:23 PM
Guy is a different level of delusional.  Victim of LA hussle culture, fake it till you make it, social media narcissism with no talent in anything.  Really pathetic.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on October 24, 2022, 03:35:16 PM
Sorry I only accept the equivalent of a down payment on a $500,000 house as a daily fee. You probably can’t afford that.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 24, 2022, 03:46:31 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/tLV3Gd7/43961658-AD01-4-FEA-9-EBB-4-EC5528-F72-C2.png) (https://ibb.co/tLV3Gd7)
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Mikey Alfred charging Logan Kirshak $700,000 for his clips. Anyone else see this on Instagram just now? Go look at Logan’s Instagram.
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Best part is him trying to shit on a teenager for not having 700k on hand when I highly doubt he has 700k on hand either lol

if Mikey charges 100k a day to pick up a camera those kids who he smoked out had the come up of the century.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on October 24, 2022, 03:52:12 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/tLV3Gd7/43961658-AD01-4-FEA-9-EBB-4-EC5528-F72-C2.png) (https://ibb.co/tLV3Gd7)
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Mikey Alfred charging Logan Kirshak $700,000 for his clips. Anyone else see this on Instagram just now? Go look at Logan’s Instagram.
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Best part is him trying to shit on a teenager for not having 700k on hand when I highly doubt he has 700k on hand either lol

What an insane piece of shit he is, clearly a spoiled brat who’s never worked a day in his life, treating teenagers like his subordinates / slaves. He’s basically trying to blackmail this kid into being part of his garbage pseudo company by holding footage he filmed in 7 days hostage for 3/4 of a million dollars. Someone should give his address to those LA gangs who do follow-home robberies and home invasions
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 24, 2022, 03:53:56 PM
This motherfucker thinks he can get these kids on a payment plan like he's klarna???? Get the fuck out of here
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on October 24, 2022, 03:58:52 PM
haha jesus christ
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: goodatmeth on October 24, 2022, 03:59:11 PM
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Mikey Alfred charging Logan Kirshak $700,000 for his clips. Anyone else see this on Instagram just now? Go look at Logan’s Instagram.
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Best part is him trying to shit on a teenager for not having 700k on hand when I highly doubt he has 700k on hand either lol
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What an insane piece of shit he is, clearly a spoiled brat who’s never worked a day in his life, treating teenagers like his subordinates / slaves. He’s basically trying to blackmail this kid into being part of his garbage pseudo company by holding footage he filmed in 7 days hostage for 3/4 of a million dollars. Someone should give his address to those LA gangs who do follow-home robberies and home invasions

Now the kids just posting phone angles of his tricks on instagram and telling mikey to fuck off. Made me follow him

https://www.instagram.com/logankirshak/ (https://www.instagram.com/logankirshak/)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dannyprovolone on October 24, 2022, 04:11:25 PM
are these the kids he was smoking weed with in that strip mall parking lot? those are some big numbers hes throwing around.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: opesorry on October 24, 2022, 04:20:26 PM
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Mikey Alfred charging Logan Kirshak $700,000 for his clips. Anyone else see this on Instagram just now? Go look at Logan’s Instagram.
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Best part is him trying to shit on a teenager for not having 700k on hand when I highly doubt he has 700k on hand either lol
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What an insane piece of shit he is, clearly a spoiled brat who’s never worked a day in his life, treating teenagers like his subordinates / slaves. He’s basically trying to blackmail this kid into being part of his garbage pseudo company by holding footage he filmed in 7 days hostage for 3/4 of a million dollars. Someone should give his address to those LA gangs who do follow-home robberies and home invasions
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Now the kids just posting phone angles of his tricks on instagram and telling mikey to fuck off. Made me follow him

https://www.instagram.com/logankirshak/ (https://www.instagram.com/logankirshak/)

This is fucking insane.

And I really wish I could partake in the cast iron skillet discussion
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pbj on October 24, 2022, 04:41:38 PM
Here's the full exchange:

(https://i.imgur.com/B26yLYT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PJCqI23.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Jean-Ralphio Zaperstein on October 24, 2022, 04:48:26 PM
hahaha mikey's actually hilarious for that one

edit: it appears you guys think he's being serious; I understand this as "sure you can get your clips, for the modest sum of one bazillion dollars"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 24, 2022, 04:50:19 PM
He can't believe what he's saying. No one in an IC video including Ishod, one of the most well-paid skaters, pays any of those fucks to pick up a camera let alone $100k.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: opesorry on October 24, 2022, 05:01:27 PM
hahaha mikey's actually hilarious for that one

edit: it appears you guys think he's being serious; I understand this as "sure you can get your clips, for the modest sum of one bazillion dollars"

Based on all of his other actions yeah, I kinda think he’s serious
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: opesorry on October 24, 2022, 05:02:18 PM
Here's the full exchange:

(https://i.imgur.com/B26yLYT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PJCqI23.jpg)

Actually kind of a bold move to ask for the clips in that exchange
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on October 24, 2022, 05:02:40 PM
Here's the full exchange:

(https://i.imgur.com/B26yLYT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PJCqI23.jpg)

Glad the kid got iPhone angles. I would like to see his agent produce one of those contracts tho. I for one am interested to know who what where and why he made 100K a day. I am even more interested to know why he felt the need to make it up to hold a teenagers footage hostage
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: shouldn't on October 24, 2022, 05:05:07 PM
what makes you think he was joking.. i don’t think this dude would post that if he was joking? also not a cool way to handle business by any means, even if he was. people used to hate on jamie thomas for the way he handled his team at times… just look at how far it’s really gone. nothing about that message, the context or any of his recent behavior seems like he’s joking at all. funny how he posts stuff like “yeah you know we just didn’t see eye to eye & they weren’t promoting enough, no hard feelings” then unfollows immediately (possibly blocks being that they immediately don’t follow him either) all of the riders once they’re off. he’s the same guy who is going to sand the other dude’s names off his boards, put equally as shitty “art” on them & then resell. look at any of his recent behavior and see if you still think he’s joking…
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on October 24, 2022, 05:06:36 PM
This guy is high off Doritos dust
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: work_lurker on October 24, 2022, 05:15:56 PM
This guy is high off Doritos dust

Props to Logan. Piss on Mikey.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on October 24, 2022, 05:20:00 PM
there’s no way illegal civ is even worth 100k
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SatanicPanic on October 24, 2022, 06:12:34 PM
I don’t think he’s serious, he’s just saying “fuck you you can’t have your clips”. Which I dunno if this kid is owed them but it seems needlessly dickish on Mikey’s part.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: augustmoon on October 24, 2022, 06:24:25 PM
Some of y’all are dense.  He’s not expecting a kid to literally come up with 700k.  He’s telling this kid he’s not getting his clips and to fuck off, and trying to sound like a big shot while doing it.  He’s not “joking” he’s fucking this kid over.  Footage is probably already deleted
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 24, 2022, 06:32:21 PM
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Here's the full exchange:

(https://i.imgur.com/B26yLYT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PJCqI23.jpg)
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Glad the kid got iPhone angles. I would like to see his agent produce one of those contracts tho. I for one am interested to know who what where and why he made 100K a day. I am even more interested to know why he felt the need to make it up to hold a teenagers footage hostage

I’d honestly guess from him paying himself that rate.  The only explanation. 

I went to grad film school along with legit cream of the crop cinematographers.   Nine years on, the only two I could think are making in the ballpark of that rate are ones DPing features with wide releases.   Don’t think they’d get even get  that doing an episode of tv but it’s hard to say bc budgets are so all over the place
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DERBY on October 24, 2022, 06:39:33 PM
hella fuckery in this trailer
https://youtu.be/DA0ucDREGZA
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: augustmoon on October 24, 2022, 06:47:47 PM
Also, dude in his mid 20s spending all his time filming teenagers smoking weed, it’s only a matter of time before this dude is me-too’d.  Trying to guilt minors for leaving his wack, suspect brand.   This whole thing is giving off I-Level vibes. 
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: usehername720 on October 24, 2022, 07:09:35 PM
Did some stalking and it looks like half of the kids who were in that original video where Mikey have them drugs and bought them burgers left, good for them
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on October 24, 2022, 07:45:04 PM
Homie should flip the script and say Mikey gave them (minors) drugs and alcohol. And more or less be like give me my clips and this doesn’t have to become a police report. I’m not sure how easy any of this would be. But fuck how much Mikey sucks. He needs his ass beat.

Also did I miss why all the people that was gonna be in this video is leaving? I get there like oh it’s a bad look for me to be involved with Mikey’s kooky ass but what happened for them to just now realize it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: formula420 on October 24, 2022, 07:48:14 PM
Homie should flip the script and say Mikey gave them (minors) drugs and alcohol. And more or less be like give me my clips and this doesn’t have to become a police report. I’m not sure how easy any of this would be. But fuck how much Mikey sucks. He needs his ass beat.

Also did I miss why all the people that was gonna be in this video is leaving? I get there like oh it’s a bad look for me to be involved with Mikey’s kooky ass but what happened for them to just now realize it.

Nah mikeys wack but threatening to call the cops for some shit like that is no good
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on October 24, 2022, 07:57:24 PM
Folks think Fat Bill is sus for his filming style but Mikey Alfred literally grooms kids for exploitation by offering them cheeseburgers and drugs, then steals their clips when they try to cut ties with him. Clearly none of what he does is out of goodwill or looking out for them, judging by the way he keeps score and retaliates against them.

What’s actually surprising is he doesn’t realize how bad a look publicly beefing with 15 year olds and shitting on them is, especially while he’s trying to promote a video that comes out this week. He’s eventually gonna have to accept that no matter how much cash his rich parents inject into this project it’ll never be a legit board company.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 24, 2022, 08:09:36 PM
This dude is fucking detached from reality.

Mikey Alfred is on some American psycho shit.

Except he looks like a dumbass instead of Christian bale.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TheDingus on October 24, 2022, 08:50:20 PM
Hella weak
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 24, 2022, 11:20:44 PM
This dude is fucking detached from reality.

Mikey Alfred is on some American psycho shit.

Except he looks like a dumbass RuPaul instead of Christian bale.
(https://i.ibb.co/X31bgXZ/RuPaul.png) (https://ibb.co/nn9bvrs)
(https://i.ibb.co/xMhkyFF/Mikey-Alfred.webp) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeapsCool on October 24, 2022, 11:59:17 PM
Slap is like a canary in the mine for skate culture.

Everybody hate Mikey now.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on October 25, 2022, 12:14:23 AM
Heavy mad villain vibes

Fake it till you make it gone wrong  ;D
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Paul Cicero on October 25, 2022, 12:32:46 AM
Some of y’all are dense.  He’s not expecting a kid to literally come up with 700k.  He’s telling this kid he’s not getting his clips and to fuck off, and trying to sound like a big shot while doing it.  He’s not “joking” he’s fucking this kid over.  Footage is probably already deleted

I think this is the nuts of it.

Also, this kid could of at least said please.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on October 25, 2022, 01:46:46 AM
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Glad the kid got iPhone angles. I would like to see his agent produce one of those contracts tho. I for one am interested to know who what where and why he made 100K a day. I am even more interested to know why he felt the need to make it up to hold a teenagers footage hostage
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I’d honestly guess from him paying himself that rate.  The only explanation. 

I went to grad film school along with legit cream of the crop cinematographers.   Nine years on, the only two I could think are making in the ballpark of that rate are ones DPing features with wide releases.   Don’t think they’d get even get  that doing an episode of tv but it’s hard to say bc budgets are so all over the place
There's some POV VX camerawork in Mid-90s and I'm gonna guess Mikey, one of the many producers of that film, hired himself to shoot it and figured out how to get a bonus out of the budget to the tune of 100k a day. That's also why WME or CAA or whoever would have a record of those numbers handy since what an above-the-line talent (in this case a cinematographer) got paid on their last project kinda determines what they get paid for their next project.

It's weird...even is his IMDB credits are sorta padded out. He gives himself a "curator" credit, along with a producer, writer, cinematographer and self credit, for an Illegal Civ TV mini series from 2016 that probably doesn't exist in any kinda real, watchable form. Mikey Alfred plays himself.

The official name for that Doritos commercial is TRNGL
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: shouldn't on October 25, 2022, 01:51:17 AM
Some of y’all are dense.  He’s not expecting a kid to literally come up with 700k.  He’s telling this kid he’s not getting his clips and to fuck off, and trying to sound like a big shot while doing it.  He’s not “joking” he’s fucking this kid over.  Footage is probably already deleted
he’s also a mega kook who truly believes he’s a “big time hollywood film maker” now. did an interview trashing on spike jonze & jonah, somehow got vince vaughn and that disney girl in his movie… i don’t think we’re the ones who are “dense”, i think he is. again, listen to the guy talk (which i don’t ever recommend, just in the sense that you really think he’s just being snub). this guy really thinks he’s worth that much. he didn’t say “well we had some big losses this year, we will rebuild though & make up for our losses, thanks for continuing to believe in us.” or anything close to heartfelt appreciation for the loyal fans he still somehow has… he was a complete arrogant dickhead about all of those losses & made a joke of them as if he is worth more. just as his message to this kid read out. i think you’re forgetting who we’re talking about by relating mikey alfred to a relatable person, as in someone who is not completely delusional in the midst of a mental breakdown. is mikey taylor just being cutesy & not genuinely trying to sell us on pyramid schemes? is steve berra not really a scientologist?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Mean salto on October 25, 2022, 02:01:11 AM
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Glad the kid got iPhone angles. I would like to see his agent produce one of those contracts tho. I for one am interested to know who what where and why he made 100K a day. I am even more interested to know why he felt the need to make it up to hold a teenagers footage hostage
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I’d honestly guess from him paying himself that rate.  The only explanation. 

I went to grad film school along with legit cream of the crop cinematographers.   Nine years on, the only two I could think are making in the ballpark of that rate are ones DPing features with wide releases.   Don’t think they’d get even get  that doing an episode of tv but it’s hard to say bc budgets are so all over the place
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There's some POV VX camerawork in Mid-90s and I'm gonna guess Mikey, one of the many producers of that film, hired himself to shoot it and figured out how to get a bonus out of the budget to the tune of 100k a day. That's also why WME or CAA or whoever would have a record of those numbers handy since what an above-the-line talent (in this case a cinematographer) got paid on their last project kinda determines what they get paid for their next project.

It's weird...even is his IMDB credits are sorta padded out. He gives himself a "curator" credit, along with a producer, writer, cinematographer and self credit, for an Illegal Civ TV mini series from 2016 that probably doesn't exist in any kinda real, watchable form. Mikey Alfred plays himself.

The official name for that Doritos commercial is TRNGL
Don't think IMDb can really be trusted in any sort of official capacity. People put skits they made in highschool and shit in their credits. That being said it's pretty quick way to see if someone's legit or not as anyone of worth probably isn't padding out their own IMDb profile with bullshit.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: goodatmeth on October 25, 2022, 02:45:09 AM
I feel like Mikey Alfred is gods strongest soldier, just testing on himself how much hate a human can handle.
Absorbing all of the worlds hate, dying for our sins, bless you Mikey <3
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rukes on October 25, 2022, 02:47:21 AM
Should've told the dude,if he wanted the clips, to come meet him at the Sawcon rails.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Beeda Weeda on October 25, 2022, 04:21:06 AM
I can't believe this guy got away with his shit for this long, he was telegraphing how much of a moron he was during that 9 club interviewer (the firs time I heard of him)
Vince Vaughn is a douche.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Idk on October 25, 2022, 05:08:34 AM
I’m so happy he’s being exposed for the kook he is. Can’t believe Reynolds backed him.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rune Spliffberg on October 25, 2022, 05:29:44 AM
everyone around mikey wants him to fail if no one said something to the tune of "hey maybe making your next video hazing themed while also giving minors drugs and encouraging them to assault people is a bad idea"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 25, 2022, 05:32:34 AM
I feel like Mikey Alfred is gods strongest soldier, just testing on himself how much hate a human can handle.
Absorbing all of the worlds hate, dying for our sins, bless you Mikey <3

God's not real

Neither is Mikey Alfred

Fake AF
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: zahed on October 25, 2022, 05:48:08 AM
free kevin white! hell yeah. he was the announcer at can jam with tyshawn, where zach c was rocking the hardies board.

i liked the comment about how TJ is business savvy, but K White is HG and i could see him getting in the fold of whatever board brand comes out of it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: matt_2993 on October 25, 2022, 06:18:23 AM
I’m so happy he’s being exposed for the kook he is. Can’t believe Reynolds backed him.

Yeah whatever happened to that, baker still do their distribution or has that been over for a long time?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Showerface on October 25, 2022, 06:22:29 AM
Gifted Hater video being uploaded as we type!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 25, 2022, 08:10:48 AM
Mikey Alfred Imploding for SOTY

His removal from skateboarding would be one of the largest contributions to skateboarding in a good while, this year at the very least.

Addition by subtraction.

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: 323-BALM on October 25, 2022, 08:14:32 AM
but it's incredible what a little bacon grease can do.

You ain’t kidding. Fixed a squeaky rear barn door on an Astro van with bacon grease one summer. It’d melt and drip off every few days in the heat but I was eating paleo bro, tons of it available.

Mr Alfred’s insistence on running / owning the show—won’t get out of (race car) bed and button up his orange cardigan for less than 100K—could come back to haunt him if that security guard in the HELLWEEKTRAILER starts asking who’s responsible for his karate chopped wrists. GX1000 / Thrasher etc…especially when it’s increasingly apparent he’s the quintessential icky Peter Pan groomer guy.

I’d like one of these kids’ dad turn out to be on some Trae the Tank Dad vibes. Mikey Alfred vs Low T Roid Rage Man. Two versions of the same shit.

I definitely love this!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Arto!Arto!WakeUp! on October 25, 2022, 08:45:06 AM
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Glad the kid got iPhone angles. I would like to see his agent produce one of those contracts tho. I for one am interested to know who what where and why he made 100K a day. I am even more interested to know why he felt the need to make it up to hold a teenagers footage hostage
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I’d honestly guess from him paying himself that rate.  The only explanation. 

I went to grad film school along with legit cream of the crop cinematographers.   Nine years on, the only two I could think are making in the ballpark of that rate are ones DPing features with wide releases.   Don’t think they’d get even get  that doing an episode of tv but it’s hard to say bc budgets are so all over the place
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There's some POV VX camerawork in Mid-90s and I'm gonna guess Mikey, one of the many producers of that film, hired himself to shoot it and figured out how to get a bonus out of the budget to the tune of 100k a day. That's also why WME or CAA or whoever would have a record of those numbers handy since what an above-the-line talent (in this case a cinematographer) got paid on their last project kinda determines what they get paid for their next project.

It's weird...even is his IMDB credits are sorta padded out. He gives himself a "curator" credit, along with a producer, writer, cinematographer and self credit, for an Illegal Civ TV mini series from 2016 that probably doesn't exist in any kinda real, watchable form. Mikey Alfred plays himself.

The official name for that Doritos commercial is TRNGL
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Don't think IMDb can really be trusted in any sort of official capacity. People put skits they made in highschool and shit in their credits. That being said it's pretty quick way to see if someone's legit or not as anyone of worth probably isn't padding out their own IMDb profile with bullshit.

do people not understand that screenshots are a thing?

i'm just gonna be a psychotic dickhead in the context of this completely private conversation. there's no way there could be any blowback.

lol

also love that he bothered to go away and 'figure out' how much he was owed.

it's a made up number. why not just 'sorry dude, your clips will cost elventy trillion dollars'?

no actual person has or would ever pay him 100k to do anything, let alone a day's filming.

very excited to never hear anything about him again.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DERBY on October 25, 2022, 08:53:58 AM
barelylegalciv
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 25, 2022, 09:03:19 AM
I don’t think he’s serious, he’s just saying “fuck you you can’t have your clips”. Which I dunno if this kid is owed them but it seems needlessly dickish on Mikey’s part.

I think he's trying to flex his status as a "filmmaker". He's saying "fuck you, you can't have you can't have your clips. I'm a Hollywood mover and shaker now and I don't get out of bed for less than $100k."
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TwisT on October 25, 2022, 09:07:35 AM
he’s posturing for sure with the 700k thing, but still has no plans on brokering a reasonable deal.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 25, 2022, 09:12:54 AM
he’s posturing for sure with the 700k thing, but still has no plans on brokering a reasonable deal.

Some people here act like they’ve never seen someone just be an arbitrary asshole before.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 25, 2022, 09:17:57 AM
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I don’t think he’s serious, he’s just saying “fuck you you can’t have your clips”. Which I dunno if this kid is owed them but it seems needlessly dickish on Mikey’s part.
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I think he's trying to flex his status as a "filmmaker". He's saying "fuck you, you can't have you can't have your clips. I'm a Hollywood mover and shaker now and I don't get out of bed for less than $100k."

he’s posturing for sure with the 700k thing, but still has no plans on brokering a reasonable deal.

I'm not sure which one of these situations is actually worse.

Being delusional enough to think you're worth that is pretty bad.

But so is being so detached that thinking that posturing in that way was in any way a cool thing to do, like if he was in fact just joking to be mean, imagine being him and explaining this to someone who isnt a self absorbed psychopath? It's fucking weird and toxic. The kid was man enough to be real with you, the least you could do is be a man with him in return and move on from this without creating more bullshit. You're just holding this kids footy hostage, as an adult. Work out a reasonable deal for it, as an adult.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Cool Ceith on October 25, 2022, 09:23:15 AM
700k for this?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA0ucDREGZA
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Jewel Runner on October 25, 2022, 09:26:09 AM
barelylegalciv

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on October 25, 2022, 09:28:02 AM
Okay now I regret feeling bad for Mikey in the slightest.  Dude is such a shithead.  I feel like he’s gonna get his ass fully beat at this point.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Silky Johnson on October 25, 2022, 09:45:07 AM
Bro think he David Goggins naming his video that
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 25, 2022, 09:48:40 AM
More like Heck Week, feel me?!?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on October 25, 2022, 09:51:55 AM
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I’m so happy he’s being exposed for the kook he is. Can’t believe Reynolds backed him.
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Yeah whatever happened to that, baker still do their distribution or has that been over for a long time?
i seem to remember when the last IC vid came out a lot of people were actually hyped on it werent they? i just saw a bunch of kids fighting with each other and stopped watching.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rawbertson. on October 25, 2022, 09:55:27 AM
haha wow from illegal civ to FA just like  ;D bodied
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on October 25, 2022, 10:24:49 AM
would love to see mikey alfred's contract outlining his $100k daily rate. post the contract mikey, i know you're reading this

He obviously has no contract of any sort or the people being filmed would have seen it first and had to sign it prior to being filmed. What he’s doing is more along the lines of extortion

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: boogs on October 25, 2022, 10:27:42 AM
release the hostages!!!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: R3dBullRox420 on October 25, 2022, 10:43:07 AM
hella fuckery in this trailer
https://youtu.be/DA0ucDREGZA

Redeeming moments:
Don't condone smashing the car window or fighting pedestrians but kind of funny if that Karen actually dropped an N bomb.
Also hilarious when the dude watched the board back from the fit bro and then laughs in his face.
The altercation with the Take Me Home shirt could've been humorous and was botched when Mikey threatened to KO someone who's clearly a little off.

Too many ABDs in this trailer.

Aside from that just bad looks all around.
That lil kid that having his clips held hostage response was hilarious. Like obviously a little naive (as one might expect from a grom), but also kind of bad ass way of calling out the ridiculousness of the situation.


Now there's Cariuma kids on the squad?
Most of the boards in the clips aren't even IC.
Mikey had lux cars in previous videos but seems to have majorly downgraded in that "We robbed a pedestrian" video. Also IC had a mansion at one point. Not that the materialistic shit matters, (Boohoo first world problems) but it's a clear indication of a drastic fall off.

Clearly doesn't seem to be taking it well. I think people should stop beating a dead horse. Like yeah the dude kooked a thousand times but cyberbullying someone who potentially is going off the rails is pretty kooky too.

The "187 means murder" post on IG was forsure wack af at first glance, but also could be a red flag who knows?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: usehername720 on October 25, 2022, 10:44:54 AM
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would love to see mikey alfred's contract outlining his $100k daily rate. post the contract mikey, i know you're reading this
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He obviously has no contract of any sort or the people being filmed would have seen it first and had to sign it prior to being filmed. What he’s doing is more along the lines of extortion

The Dalton filmer guy Mikey refers to in the text said that he would’ve wanted to release Logan’s clips or give them to him but he’s under contract with Mikey and would be sued if he released them
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: passtheish on October 25, 2022, 10:52:11 AM
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Some of y’all are dense.  He’s not expecting a kid to literally come up with 700k.  He’s telling this kid he’s not getting his clips and to fuck off, and trying to sound like a big shot while doing it.  He’s not “joking” he’s fucking this kid over.  Footage is probably already deleted
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I think this is the nuts of it.

Also, this kid could of at least said please.

he's a kid lmao, how are people more critical of a KID than a grown ass adult exploiting them for a dead brand
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on October 25, 2022, 11:01:34 AM
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would love to see mikey alfred's contract outlining his $100k daily rate. post the contract mikey, i know you're reading this
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He obviously has no contract of any sort or the people being filmed would have seen it first and had to sign it prior to being filmed. What he’s doing is more along the lines of extortion
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The Dalton filmer guy Mikey refers to in the text said that he would’ve wanted to release Logan’s clips or give them to him but he’s under contract with Mikey and would be sued if he released them

Well that’s understandable that the filmer would have to sign a contract with the company they are filming for. Who knows how it’s worded though. Sounds like the kid skating is just going to get burned.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GAY on October 25, 2022, 11:03:17 AM
Ah I see now is this the guy behind the "Wanna Be A Baker?" vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SqZ_lANm0
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rockin Robbin on October 25, 2022, 11:27:07 AM
Dude thinks he's Roger fuckin Deakins. Hope IC burns to the ground.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 25, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
Ah I see now is this the guy behind the "Wanna Be A Baker?" vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SqZ_lANm0

Oh my god. If I were Andrew Reynolds, I would pay any amount of money to have this scrubbed permanently from the internet. Like call Hunter Biden's team or something.

Also I completely forgot that Braydon Szafranski existed and I cannot believe that guy was on Baker.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Paul Cicero on October 25, 2022, 11:38:19 AM
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Some of y’all are dense.  He’s not expecting a kid to literally come up with 700k.  He’s telling this kid he’s not getting his clips and to fuck off, and trying to sound like a big shot while doing it.  He’s not “joking” he’s fucking this kid over.  Footage is probably already deleted
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I think this is the nuts of it.

Also, this kid could of at least said please.
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he's a kid lmao, how are people more critical of a KID than a grown ass adult exploiting them for a dead brand

I didn’t think I was being particularly critical, just observing that usually if you are going to request something of someone, it usually helps to use some manners, pretty normal worldwide practice that’s not exclusive to adults.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on October 25, 2022, 11:42:05 AM
Some of y’all are dense.  He’s not expecting a kid to literally come up with 700k.  He’s telling this kid he’s not getting his clips and to fuck off, and trying to sound like a big shot while doing it.  He’s not “joking” he’s fucking this kid over.  Footage is probably already deleted


Yeah, to ask for the clips is dumb, but he’s a kid who probably believe Mikeys ‘we’re best friends’ shit. Mikeys reply is actually funny, but it’s the nail in his coffin.


Also this Dalton dude should up his day rate to 100k.


So who’s going to this launch for $35 to watch Mikey sing?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: twic3 on October 25, 2022, 11:47:40 AM
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Ah I see now is this the guy behind the "Wanna Be A Baker?" vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SqZ_lANm0
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Oh my god. If I were Andrew Reynolds, I would pay any amount of money to have this scrubbed permanently from the internet. Like call Hunter Biden's team or something.

Also I completely forgot that Braydon Szafranski existed and I cannot believe that guy was on Baker.

I always though his "aesthetic" fit Baker at the time but his skating was very underwhelming for how hesh he looked.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Throwaway1 on October 25, 2022, 11:48:52 AM
Dalton dude’s gotta think faster. There’s no contract. Mikey’s probably just guilt tripping him about the footage or baselessly told him he would sue if he handed over the footage
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: EdLawndale on October 25, 2022, 11:51:26 AM
My understanding is that, generally, the person who films a clip or takes a photo, owns the copyright (i.e. when Bradley Cooper took that selfie at the Oscars with Ellen and a bunch of other celebs, a few years back -- Cooper owns the copyright), unless the subject has worked out a work-made-for-hire deal/contract with the filmer/photographer.

If the filmer/photographer in question has a work-made-for-hire deal/contract with an overarching company, then it is the company who is the entity that owns the copyright on the clip/photo.

The rider would have to have a work-made-for-hire contract with a filmer/photographer, where it is the latter whom is working as a w-mf-h for the former, in order for a rider to legally own his clips/photos. I'm sure that is what Appleyard had when he said he was tired with working with Element's filmers so he just hired his own.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pbj on October 25, 2022, 12:01:33 PM
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This shit cracks me up. Casually mentioning Mikey is going to be performing music in addition to magic!?
Dude might as well start a circus at this point.

free kevin white! hell yeah. he was the announcer at can jam with tyshawn, where zach c was rocking the hardies board.

i liked the comment about how TJ is business savvy, but K White is HG and i could see him getting in the fold of whatever board brand comes out of it.

Kev White jumping ship to whatever TJ's building would be a great move
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 25, 2022, 12:05:04 PM
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This shit cracks me up. Casually mentioning Mikey is going to be performing music in addition to magic!?
Dude might as well start a circus at this point.

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free kevin white! hell yeah. he was the announcer at can jam with tyshawn, where zach c was rocking the hardies board.

i liked the comment about how TJ is business savvy, but K White is HG and i could see him getting in the fold of whatever board brand comes out of it.
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Kev White jumping ship to whatever TJ's building would be a great move

It would be so funny if he just had a flat bar at the premiere and everyone showed up expecting an open bar
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Bread Harrity on October 25, 2022, 12:58:12 PM
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I’m so happy he’s being exposed for the kook he is. Can’t believe Reynolds backed him.
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Yeah whatever happened to that, baker still do their distribution or has that been over for a long time?
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i seem to remember when the last IC vid came out a lot of people were actually hyped on it werent they? i just saw a bunch of kids fighting with each other and stopped watching.

IC used to actually have respected skateboarders in there vids, godspeed has a 6 minute ishod part in it that's worth watching on it's own.
Even Cookie used to be in the mix
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDhwEJ82DmM&ab_channel=TransworldSkateboarding
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sometimeperhaps on October 25, 2022, 01:08:22 PM
Can we pool some money to send a pal to this premier and live stream the disappointment it will surely be?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 25, 2022, 01:17:27 PM
Can we pool some money to send a pal to this premier and live stream the disappointment it will surely be?

@EdLawndale now is your time to shine
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Silky Johnson on October 25, 2022, 01:23:32 PM
I got five on it
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: EdLawndale on October 25, 2022, 01:24:52 PM
I have plans on Friday night, thanks though.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: behavioralguide on October 25, 2022, 01:26:32 PM
Sounds like a jenkem article
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 25, 2022, 01:30:08 PM
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This shit cracks me up. Casually mentioning Mikey is going to be performing music in addition to magic!?
Dude might as well start a circus at this point.

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free kevin white! hell yeah. he was the announcer at can jam with tyshawn, where zach c was rocking the hardies board.

i liked the comment about how TJ is business savvy, but K White is HG and i could see him getting in the fold of whatever board brand comes out of it.
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Kev White jumping ship to whatever TJ's building would be a great move
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It would be so funny if he just had a flat bar at the premiere and everyone showed up expecting an open bar
!!!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: No Wave Comply on October 25, 2022, 01:32:52 PM
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Ah I see now is this the guy behind the "Wanna Be A Baker?" vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SqZ_lANm0
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Oh my god. If I were Andrew Reynolds, I would pay any amount of money to have this scrubbed permanently from the internet. Like call Hunter Biden's team or something.

Also I completely forgot that Braydon Szafranski existed and I cannot believe that guy was on Baker.

Seriously. This is incredibly embarrassing, although they were definitely that deluded and egomaniacal during those years. Spanky and the other pros not featured were either incredibly smart or lucky not to be included. Greco really leaned in and still managed to come off like he always did back then, but Szafranski was creep city, what a turd. I wasn't surprised when that mimbo fell off (and has yet to recover).
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SatanicPanic on October 25, 2022, 01:36:40 PM
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Ah I see now is this the guy behind the "Wanna Be A Baker?" vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SqZ_lANm0
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Oh my god. If I were Andrew Reynolds, I would pay any amount of money to have this scrubbed permanently from the internet. Like call Hunter Biden's team or something.

Also I completely forgot that Braydon Szafranski existed and I cannot believe that guy was on Baker.
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Seriously. This is incredibly embarrassing, although they were definitely that deluded and egomaniacal during those years. Spanky and the other pros not featured were either incredibly smart or lucky not to be included. Greco really leaned in and still managed to come off like he always did back then, but Szafranski was creep city, what a turd. I wasn't surprised when that mimbo fell off (and has yet to recover).
Holy shit that was lame
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on October 25, 2022, 01:40:04 PM
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This shit cracks me up. Casually mentioning Mikey is going to be performing music in addition to magic!?
Dude might as well start a circus at this point.

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free kevin white! hell yeah. he was the announcer at can jam with tyshawn, where zach c was rocking the hardies board.

i liked the comment about how TJ is business savvy, but K White is HG and i could see him getting in the fold of whatever board brand comes out of it.
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Kev White jumping ship to whatever TJ's building would be a great move
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It would be so funny if he just had a flat bar at the premiere and everyone showed up expecting an open bar
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!!!

Video should be called ALL SALES FINAL
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Ed boy on October 25, 2022, 01:45:40 PM
Sounds like a jenkem article

"IC's Hell Week Premiere ... On Acid!"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GAY on October 25, 2022, 02:17:09 PM
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This shit cracks me up. Casually mentioning Mikey is going to be performing music in addition to magic!?
Dude might as well start a circus at this point.

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free kevin white! hell yeah. he was the announcer at can jam with tyshawn, where zach c was rocking the hardies board.

i liked the comment about how TJ is business savvy, but K White is HG and i could see him getting in the fold of whatever board brand comes out of it.
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Kev White jumping ship to whatever TJ's building would be a great move

I know the only commonality is the name "Mikey", but still...it would be funny if this was all just a ruse to trick dumb people into a strongarm timeshare sales pitch led by Mikey Taylor.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 25, 2022, 02:19:06 PM
Ah I see now is this the guy behind the "Wanna Be A Baker?" vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SqZ_lANm0

Holy shit, this is the "mission accomplished" moment of baker
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 25, 2022, 02:20:51 PM
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Ah I see now is this the guy behind the "Wanna Be A Baker?" vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SqZ_lANm0
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Holy shit, this is the "mission accomplished" moment of baker

Maybe Kader saw it and that's why he's leaving.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 25, 2022, 02:22:32 PM
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Ah I see now is this the guy behind the "Wanna Be A Baker?" vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SqZ_lANm0
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Holy shit, this is the "mission accomplished" moment of baker
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Maybe Kader saw it and that's why he's leaving.

I wanna recut all the talking head moments into a promo for the bachelorette "IN THE MOST DRAMATIC SEASON EVER OF THE BACHELORETTE"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 25, 2022, 02:31:52 PM
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Ah I see now is this the guy behind the "Wanna Be A Baker?" vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SqZ_lANm0
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Holy shit, this is the "mission accomplished" moment of baker
[close]

Maybe Kader saw it and that's why he's leaving.
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I wanna recut all the talking head moments into a promo for the bachelorette "IN THE MOST DRAMATIC SEASON EVER OF THE BACHELORETTE"

I rather watch the Alex Klein season of OIAM.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GAY on October 25, 2022, 03:14:21 PM
If I told U that I used to like Braydon, would U consider the source?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on October 25, 2022, 03:22:06 PM
Can we pool some money to send a pal to this premier and live stream the disappointment it will surely be?
send me to it i’ll document it
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on October 25, 2022, 03:23:08 PM
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hella fuckery in this trailer
https://youtu.be/DA0ucDREGZA
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Redeeming moments:
Don't condone smashing the car window or fighting pedestrians but kind of funny if that Karen actually dropped an N bomb.
Also hilarious when the dude watched the board back from the fit bro and then laughs in his face.
The altercation with the Take Me Home shirt could've been humorous and was botched when Mikey threatened to KO someone who's clearly a little off.

Too many ABDs in this trailer.

Aside from that just bad looks all around.
That lil kid that having his clips held hostage response was hilarious. Like obviously a little naive (as one might expect from a grom), but also kind of bad ass way of calling out the ridiculousness of the situation.


Now there's Cariuma kids on the squad?
Most of the boards in the clips aren't even IC.
Mikey had lux cars in previous videos but seems to have majorly downgraded in that "We robbed a pedestrian" video. Also IC had a mansion at one point. Not that the materialistic shit matters, (Boohoo first world problems) but it's a clear indication of a drastic fall off.

Clearly doesn't seem to be taking it well. I think people should stop beating a dead horse. Like yeah the dude kooked a thousand times but cyberbullying someone who potentially is going off the rails is pretty kooky too.

The "187 means murder" post on IG was forsure wack af at first glance, but also could be a red flag who knows?
cyber bullying isn’t real
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TheDingus on October 25, 2022, 04:39:09 PM
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hella fuckery in this trailer
https://youtu.be/DA0ucDREGZA
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Redeeming moments:
Don't condone smashing the car window or fighting pedestrians but kind of funny if that Karen actually dropped an N bomb.
Also hilarious when the dude watched the board back from the fit bro and then laughs in his face.
The altercation with the Take Me Home shirt could've been humorous and was botched when Mikey threatened to KO someone who's clearly a little off.

Too many ABDs in this trailer.

Aside from that just bad looks all around.
That lil kid that having his clips held hostage response was hilarious. Like obviously a little naive (as one might expect from a grom), but also kind of bad ass way of calling out the ridiculousness of the situation.


Now there's Cariuma kids on the squad?
Most of the boards in the clips aren't even IC.
Mikey had lux cars in previous videos but seems to have majorly downgraded in that "We robbed a pedestrian" video. Also IC had a mansion at one point. Not that the materialistic shit matters, (Boohoo first world problems) but it's a clear indication of a drastic fall off.

Clearly doesn't seem to be taking it well. I think people should stop beating a dead horse. Like yeah the dude kooked a thousand times but cyberbullying someone who potentially is going off the rails is pretty kooky too.

The "187 means murder" post on IG was forsure wack af at first glance, but also could be a red flag who knows?
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cyber bullying isn’t real

I think that  middle aged Andreas guy from useless wooden knowledge could prove that theory wrong
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on October 25, 2022, 05:14:05 PM
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hella fuckery in this trailer
https://youtu.be/DA0ucDREGZA
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Redeeming moments:
Don't condone smashing the car window or fighting pedestrians but kind of funny if that Karen actually dropped an N bomb.
Also hilarious when the dude watched the board back from the fit bro and then laughs in his face.
The altercation with the Take Me Home shirt could've been humorous and was botched when Mikey threatened to KO someone who's clearly a little off.

Too many ABDs in this trailer.

Aside from that just bad looks all around.
That lil kid that having his clips held hostage response was hilarious. Like obviously a little naive (as one might expect from a grom), but also kind of bad ass way of calling out the ridiculousness of the situation.


Now there's Cariuma kids on the squad?
Most of the boards in the clips aren't even IC.
Mikey had lux cars in previous videos but seems to have majorly downgraded in that "We robbed a pedestrian" video. Also IC had a mansion at one point. Not that the materialistic shit matters, (Boohoo first world problems) but it's a clear indication of a drastic fall off.

Clearly doesn't seem to be taking it well. I think people should stop beating a dead horse. Like yeah the dude kooked a thousand times but cyberbullying someone who potentially is going off the rails is pretty kooky too.

The "187 means murder" post on IG was forsure wack af at first glance, but also could be a red flag who knows?
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cyber bullying isn’t real
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I think that  middle aged Andreas guy from useless wooden knowledge could prove that theory wrong
who is rhat
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: arrbee on October 25, 2022, 06:43:52 PM
Sounds like a jenkem article

Gifted Hater if you’re reading this, hit the dm and I’ll cover your ticket.

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Post by: DERBY on October 25, 2022, 06:48:36 PM
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Sounds like a jenkem article
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Gifted Hater if you’re reading this, hit the dm and I’ll cover your ticket.

yo alfredo gon have the shooters on deck. it’s gon have to be a stealth mission sorry
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: arrbee on October 25, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
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Sounds like a jenkem article
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Gifted Hater if you’re reading this, hit the dm and I’ll cover your ticket.
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yo alfredo gon have the shooters on deck. it’s gon have to be a stealth mission sorry

I will fly to LA and if Mikey can produce 1 single shooter with a real loaded gun I’ll pay his $100k a day fee. No chance he runs in any circles with real shooters.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on October 25, 2022, 08:30:01 PM
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hella fuckery in this trailer
https://youtu.be/DA0ucDREGZA
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Redeeming moments:
Don't condone smashing the car window or fighting pedestrians but kind of funny if that Karen actually dropped an N bomb.
Also hilarious when the dude watched the board back from the fit bro and then laughs in his face.
The altercation with the Take Me Home shirt could've been humorous and was botched when Mikey threatened to KO someone who's clearly a little off.

Too many ABDs in this trailer.

Aside from that just bad looks all around.
That lil kid that having his clips held hostage response was hilarious. Like obviously a little naive (as one might expect from a grom), but also kind of bad ass way of calling out the ridiculousness of the situation.


Now there's Cariuma kids on the squad?
Most of the boards in the clips aren't even IC.
Mikey had lux cars in previous videos but seems to have majorly downgraded in that "We robbed a pedestrian" video. Also IC had a mansion at one point. Not that the materialistic shit matters, (Boohoo first world problems) but it's a clear indication of a drastic fall off.

Clearly doesn't seem to be taking it well. I think people should stop beating a dead horse. Like yeah the dude kooked a thousand times but cyberbullying someone who potentially is going off the rails is pretty kooky too.

The "187 means murder" post on IG was forsure wack af at first glance, but also could be a red flag who knows?

it's wrong for us to cyberbully this real life bully?

he's not going off the rails, he's just failing to hold onto any relevance he may have ever had and his fall from grace seems anything but graceful
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: scary on October 26, 2022, 01:53:08 AM
I think you guys are missing out on the fact that Mikey’s “legal team” is probably some cheapo entertainment lawyer service.

If mikey wants to go corporate hardass on Logan he’s gonna get whats coming to him.
1. In some way shape or form Mikey is breaking child labor laws by filming kids all day and making them smoke weed on camera.
2. Its LA/the Valley. Some pedlow grom probably has a crazy lawyer dad that’ll jump on the opportunity to make some money off this.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on October 26, 2022, 05:01:54 AM
Logan is screen printing shirts with “700k” on the back of them in his story, hopefully that’s the name of an upcoming thrasher part
 
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rune Spliffberg on October 26, 2022, 05:12:22 AM
Logan is screen printing making iron-on graphic shirts with “700k” on the back of them in his story, hopefully that’s the name of an upcoming thrasher part
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Post by: TwisT on October 26, 2022, 06:33:08 AM
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This type of shit if what I like about kids these days. Hopefully he makes a couple hundred dollars.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on October 26, 2022, 08:25:52 AM
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Logan is screen printing making iron-on graphic shirts with “700k” on the back of them in his story, hopefully that’s the name of an upcoming thrasher part
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This type of shit if what I like about kids these days. Hopefully he makes a couple hundred dollars.

That should cover his first payment to Mikey
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: goodatmeth on October 26, 2022, 08:46:08 AM
Ahahah even the cariuma kid quit IC:

https://www.instagram.com/stories/cy.romano/2957274842806434200/ (https://www.instagram.com/stories/cy.romano/2957274842806434200/)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: backspinflip on October 26, 2022, 08:56:38 AM
hot take but the kid is a bit of a dunce, expecting to get his footage from the guy/company that put him on, filmed him, supported him in some way via taking him to spots and feeding him. After burning the guy/company by saying he no longer wants to be in his video. Guess everything was cool until Gifted Hater started talking shit, now junior doesn't want to play for the losing team. Mikey is probably the Kook of the Year, although he really wasn't exploiting this kid. Drove him around and filmed him and gave him some shine in the video. Pretty standard stuff for a flow kid to do. The kid is good but he's not blowing minds, pretty basic fs rail chomping by the looks of it.

Now that I think about it, it's pretty smart burning Mikey and IC with this shit, using the negative hype around him/ the brand to boost his own name. Becoming like a martyr for the cause. I'd be surprised if that was his angle all along.

Really, it just pretty wack to burn the dude that was putting you on, even if that guy is Mikey Alfred.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: i used to skate on October 26, 2022, 10:01:54 AM
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CkLpxjVruj_/

Filmer has jumped ship
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on October 26, 2022, 10:09:40 AM
hot take but the kid is a bit of a dunce, expecting to get his footage from the guy/company that put him on, filmed him, supported him in some way via taking him to spots and feeding him. After burning the guy/company by saying he no longer wants to be in his video. Guess everything was cool until Gifted Hater started talking shit, now junior doesn't want to play for the losing team. Mikey is probably the Kook of the Year, although he really wasn't exploiting this kid. Drove him around and filmed him and gave him some shine in the video. Pretty standard stuff for a flow kid to do. The kid is good but he's not blowing minds, pretty basic fs rail chomping by the looks of it.

Now that I think about it, it's pretty smart burning Mikey and IC with this shit, using the negative hype around him/ the brand to boost his own name. Becoming like a martyr for the cause. I'd be surprised if that was his angle all along.

Really, it just pretty wack to burn the dude that was putting you on, even if that guy is Mikey Alfred.

Both of these kids have crazy talent, neither of them are stray dogs or homeless people who need Mikey to “take them to spots” and “feed them.” Expecting people to be grateful for being taken advantage of is some abusive partner shit.

Dude is a 30 year old RuPaul lookalike who plies impressionable young boys with cheeseburgers, he doesn’t deserve anyones sympathy.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: augustmoon on October 26, 2022, 10:24:04 AM
hot take but the kid is a bit of a dunce, expecting to get his footage from the guy/company that put him on, filmed him, supported him in some way via taking him to spots and feeding him. After burning the guy/company by saying he no longer wants to be in his video. Guess everything was cool until Gifted Hater started talking shit, now junior doesn't want to play for the losing team. Mikey is probably the Kook of the Year, although he really wasn't exploiting this kid. Drove him around and filmed him and gave him some shine in the video. Pretty standard stuff for a flow kid to do. The kid is good but he's not blowing minds, pretty basic fs rail chomping by the looks of it.

Now that I think about it, it's pretty smart burning Mikey and IC with this shit, using the negative hype around him/ the brand to boost his own name. Becoming like a martyr for the cause. I'd be surprised if that was his angle all along.

Really, it just pretty wack to burn the dude that was putting you on, even if that guy is Mikey Alfred.


Hi Mikey 👋
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Allen. on October 26, 2022, 10:25:20 AM
After burning the guy/company by saying he no longer wants to be in his video.

I don’t think this is a burn by any means. I don’t expect any 16 year old to be a wordsmith but he was about as respectful as someone can get at that age when a partnership isn’t working out.

If anyone I filmed with didn’t want to be a part of my projects, yeah, I’d give them their footage - if they don’t want in I don’t want them in. But you just gotta ask. If someone goes “fuck you @Allen., you’re a fucking prick, btw can I have my footage?” That’s a little different obviously.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HORSES on October 26, 2022, 10:27:11 AM
There was so many negative comments on the video on YouTube last week that I think it's kind of forced these kids to jump ship. People are going in heavily on the last Instagram post too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkHc5mIA9Tv/


Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sizzle on October 26, 2022, 10:29:30 AM
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CkLpxjVruj_/

Filmer has jumped ship

God the middle finger was annoying but that kid doing tricks over the trashcan has an unbelievable nollie tre

Edit: 0:31 in the clip

Addendum: "Mikey is giving this kid his shot" is a downright moronical take
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on October 26, 2022, 10:34:01 AM
There was so many negative comments on the video on YouTube last week that I think it's kind of forced these kids to jump ship. People are going in heavily on the last Instagram post too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkHc5mIA9Tv/

I see he’s even got Weck in there giving it to him lol
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: hayduke lives on October 26, 2022, 10:34:52 AM
at @1:04 of reynold's nine club he talks about mikey as one of "the youngest, coolest people he's met...dresses fresh"  the whole 9 gang unsurprisingly is totally feeling him.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 26, 2022, 10:51:24 AM
hot take but the kid is a bit of a dunce, expecting to get his footage from the guy/company that put him on, filmed him, supported him in some way via taking him to spots and feeding him. After burning the guy/company by saying he no longer wants to be in his video. Guess everything was cool until Gifted Hater started talking shit, now junior doesn't want to play for the losing team. Mikey is probably the Kook of the Year, although he really wasn't exploiting this kid. Drove him around and filmed him and gave him some shine in the video. Pretty standard stuff for a flow kid to do. The kid is good but he's not blowing minds, pretty basic fs rail chomping by the looks of it.

Now that I think about it, it's pretty smart burning Mikey and IC with this shit, using the negative hype around him/ the brand to boost his own name. Becoming like a martyr for the cause. I'd be surprised if that was his angle all along.

Really, it just pretty wack to burn the dude that was putting you on, even if that guy is Mikey Alfred.

Yea, the kid was kinda dumb if he just expected his footy after all that. But he's just some dumb kid. Mikey is an adult. Should have just made a reasonable deal with the kid for his clips and moved on.

BUT INSTEAD HE GIVES US SOME SWEET SWEET DRAMA.

Thanks Mikey, watching you and by proxy your brand implode has been the most entertaining thing in skateboarding this week.

Aside from well, you know, actually riding your skateboard.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on October 26, 2022, 10:57:58 AM
If you’re involved in this video and have more than 2 functioning brain cells you’d run for the hills.

Every comment on these posts are people just ripping Illegal Civ. It’s really fucking embarrassing honestly, dude needs to know when it’s time to call it.
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Post by: goodatmeth on October 26, 2022, 11:10:15 AM
He must be going through Hell Week
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Post by: twic3 on October 26, 2022, 11:22:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/75UB8wq.png)
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Post by: RichardBarkley on October 26, 2022, 11:27:31 AM
Don't get it
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Post by: KGB on October 26, 2022, 11:36:19 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/cCRK06p/F0-A84-EC9-5-DF0-414-E-9578-D8543-C2-DADFA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cCRK06p)


He’s deserves that 700k he took them to spots AND bought them food.
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Post by: goodatmeth on October 26, 2022, 11:42:22 AM
Gotta admit this shit is amusing as hell to me. Just looked through the skaters profiles and it seems like everybody recently tagged in IC posts has made some anti-IC statement at this point.

But that's ok because the real reason people are going to the event is Mikey Alfredo singing
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Post by: h00man on October 26, 2022, 11:50:28 AM
you guys think we'll eventually see an old man Mikey Alfred running for president as Republican?
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Post by: augustmoon on October 26, 2022, 12:03:16 PM
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He’s deserves that 700k he took them to spots AND bought them food.

i know we're all joking about this, but this is actual grooming behavior and really suspect. 
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Post by: DaleSr on October 26, 2022, 12:05:19 PM
you guys think we'll eventually see an old man Mikey Alfred running for president as Republican?

I can't see mikey getting more than 1k votes in a city council election
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Post by: IpathCats on October 26, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
you guys think we'll eventually see an old man Mikey Alfred running for president as Republican?

No, that's Mikey Taylor.

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Post by: GrayCellGreen on October 26, 2022, 12:16:46 PM
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No, that's Mikey Taylor.

I wouldn't discount the possibility of Mikey Alfred going down the same path. He has all of the same symptoms
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Post by: IpathCats on October 26, 2022, 12:26:56 PM
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No, that's Mikey Taylor.
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I wouldn't discount the possibility of Mikey Alfred going down the same path. He has all of the same symptoms

Not all Mikey's are the same, you're being Mikeyist
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Post by: IpathCats on October 26, 2022, 12:28:07 PM
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He’s deserves that 700k he took them to spots AND bought them food.
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i know we're all joking about this, but this is actual grooming behavior and really suspect.

What exactly do you suspect Alfredo Mike to be up to?
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Post by: h00man on October 26, 2022, 12:28:53 PM
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No, that's Mikey Taylor.
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I wouldn't discount the possibility of Mikey Alfred going down the same path. He has all of the same symptoms

Mikey Taylor runs for president with Mikey Alfred as his VP?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on October 26, 2022, 12:29:06 PM
Is it normal to ask $33 to get in the door at a premiere? Most premieres I have been to have been free. (Barring small premieres where the door pays for a case of beer or something.)

I know dude isn't having an open bar/buffet. That means $33 plus food/beverage. But hey...magic...i guess...
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Post by: beecee on October 26, 2022, 12:30:35 PM
i'm so glad the ACTUAL filmer left. really is the icing on the cake.
mr director/producer is gonna have to pick up a camera again unless he can find a filmer for under 700k/week
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Post by: Jean-Ralphio Zaperstein on October 26, 2022, 12:41:05 PM
Is it normal to ask $33 to get in the door at a premiere? Most premieres I have been to have been free. (Barring small premieres where the door pays for a case of beer or something.)
I know dude isn't having an open bar/buffet. That means $33 plus food/beverage. But hey...magic...i guess...
Open your eyes
(https://i.imgur.com/dn4INnO.jpg)
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Post by: fineslime on October 26, 2022, 12:44:25 PM
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He’s deserves that 700k he took them to spots AND bought them food.
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i know we're all joking about this, but this is actual grooming behavior and really suspect.
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What exactly do you suspect Alfredo Mike to be up to?


It IS possible to want to help and mentor other young men without it being grooming. The term, "grooming," has HEAVY sexual connotations attached to it and even though Mikey is Mikey, it's supremely fucked up to label someone as a groomer when you have absolutely no basis to do so. Maybe he was, "grooming," them to be a successful skateboarder.

Did Rick and Mike groom kids who they kept in flow purgatory? Has every other adult male who ran a board company and took kids on trips a predator?

Don't say that shit about someone.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SatanicPanic on October 26, 2022, 12:47:13 PM
This all seems like a weird grift but I guess it’s a sign of success that skateboarding is so big that random weirdos are trying to take our money
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Post by: Owen on October 26, 2022, 12:47:31 PM
More like Hell Weak
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Post by: slapcurbsnotwomen on October 26, 2022, 12:58:06 PM
Illegal civ presents “L week”
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Post by: $$LESH on October 26, 2022, 12:58:19 PM
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Is it normal to ask $33 to get in the door at a premiere? Most premieres I have been to have been free. (Barring small premieres where the door pays for a case of beer or something.)
I know dude isn't having an open bar/buffet. That means $33 plus food/beverage. But hey...magic...i guess...
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Open your eyes
(https://i.imgur.com/dn4INnO.jpg)

jesus was 33. his god complex is starting to make sense.
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Post by: InkkeACAB on October 26, 2022, 01:00:03 PM
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He’s deserves that 700k he took them to spots AND bought them food.
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i know we're all joking about this, but this is actual grooming behavior and really suspect.
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What exactly do you suspect Alfredo Mike to be up to?
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It IS possible to want to help and mentor other young men without it being grooming. The term, "grooming," has HEAVY sexual connotations attached to it and even though Mikey is Mikey, it's supremely fucked up to label someone as a groomer when you have absolutely no basis to do so. Maybe he was, "grooming," them to be a successful skateboarder.

Did Rick and Mike groom kids who they kept in flow purgatory? Has every other adult male who ran a board company and took kids on trips a predator?

Don't say that shit about someone.

burgers n weed
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dannyprovolone on October 26, 2022, 01:02:38 PM
33 x 700k = 420
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Post by: Mean salto on October 26, 2022, 01:16:14 PM
33 x 700k = 420
700k÷420= 166.66`
166.66' x 2(how many brain cells Mikey has)=3333.33'
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Post by: fineslime on October 26, 2022, 01:18:52 PM
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He’s deserves that 700k he took them to spots AND bought them food.
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i know we're all joking about this, but this is actual grooming behavior and really suspect.
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What exactly do you suspect Alfredo Mike to be up to?
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It IS possible to want to help and mentor other young men without it being grooming. The term, "grooming," has HEAVY sexual connotations attached to it and even though Mikey is Mikey, it's supremely fucked up to label someone as a groomer when you have absolutely no basis to do so. Maybe he was, "grooming," them to be a successful skateboarder.

Did Rick and Mike groom kids who they kept in flow purgatory? Has every other adult male who ran a board company and took kids on trips a predator?

Don't say that shit about someone.
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burgers n weed

I've skated pretty good after burgers and weed as an underage kid, but my mom gave them to me...

Point taken.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Big Skatefase on October 26, 2022, 01:21:38 PM
Taylor/Alfred 2024
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Post by: versacekid420 on October 26, 2022, 01:29:28 PM
i know nak isn’t liked around here but his story saying “700k? 800k? free dem boys” and “get them jay-z lawyer” is funny as fuck
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on October 26, 2022, 01:51:27 PM
Taylor/Alfred 2024

and taylor silverman for secretary of defense
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Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on October 26, 2022, 02:01:58 PM
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Taylor/Alfred 2024
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and taylor silverman for secretary of defense

Mikey Alfred for President.  Taylor Silverman for VP.  Mikey Taylor for Secretariat of State
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Post by: $$LESH on October 26, 2022, 02:24:44 PM
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Taylor/Alfred 2024
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and taylor silverman for secretary of defense
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Mikey Alfred for President.  Taylor Silverman for VP.  Mikey Taylor for Secretariat of State

😭😭😭😭
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Post by: Candied cigarettes on October 26, 2022, 02:28:14 PM
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Taylor/Alfred 2024
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and taylor silverman for secretary of defense
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Mikey Alfred for President.  Taylor Silverman for VP.  Mikey Taylor for Secretariat of State

Well fucking done
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Post by: jakeumms on October 26, 2022, 02:57:39 PM
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He’s deserves that 700k he took them to spots AND bought them food.
[close]

i know we're all joking about this, but this is actual grooming behavior and really suspect.
[close]

What exactly do you suspect Alfredo Mike to be up to?
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It IS possible to want to help and mentor other young men without it being grooming. The term, "grooming," has HEAVY sexual connotations attached to it and even though Mikey is Mikey, it's supremely fucked up to label someone as a groomer when you have absolutely no basis to do so. Maybe he was, "grooming," them to be a successful skateboarder.

Did Rick and Mike groom kids who they kept in flow purgatory? Has every other adult male who ran a board company and took kids on trips a predator?

Don't say that shit about someone.
Word the GQP loves that term and throws it around at educators like it's nothing. The term is getting mainstreamed the same way cuckold was.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on October 26, 2022, 03:02:46 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CjDzTrBJaIG/

imagine having an ego like his with this level of artistic ability
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Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on October 26, 2022, 03:15:55 PM
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He’s deserves that 700k he took them to spots AND bought them food.
[close]

i know we're all joking about this, but this is actual grooming behavior and really suspect.
[close]

What exactly do you suspect Alfredo Mike to be up to?
[close]


It IS possible to want to help and mentor other young men without it being grooming. The term, "grooming," has HEAVY sexual connotations attached to it and even though Mikey is Mikey, it's supremely fucked up to label someone as a groomer when you have absolutely no basis to do so. Maybe he was, "grooming," them to be a successful skateboarder.

Did Rick and Mike groom kids who they kept in flow purgatory? Has every other adult male who ran a board company and took kids on trips a predator?

Don't say that shit about someone.
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Word the GQP loves that term and throws it around at educators like it's nothing. The term is getting mainstreamed the same way cuckold was.
i wonder if actual cuckolds are pissed the same way skaters were when thrasher shirts were everywhere
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lilyung on October 26, 2022, 03:20:57 PM
Ah I see now is this the guy behind the "Wanna Be A Baker?" vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SqZ_lANm0

Quintessential skateboarding on MTV vibe in that intro. Watched that knew exactly what was going to happen (skimmed to verify).

This Jenkem meme captured the era well: https://www.instagram.com/p/CkJdqiQy6p-/
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Post by: GAY on October 26, 2022, 03:29:29 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CjDzTrBJaIG/

imagine having an ego like his with this level of artistic ability

Honestly this is better than anything Neckface has done.
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Post by: R3dBullRox420 on October 26, 2022, 03:30:34 PM
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Sounds like a jenkem article
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Gifted Hater if you’re reading this, hit the dm and I’ll cover your ticket.
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yo alfredo gon have the shooters on deck. it’s gon have to be a stealth mission sorry
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I will fly to LA and if Mikey can produce 1 single shooter with a real loaded gun I’ll pay his $100k a day fee. No chance he runs in any circles with real shooters.

I mean Baby Stone Gorillas are headlining it... I don't think they'd show up to perform on to that side of town without goons

In this vid they link up with Earl Swavey (RIP) and bloods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM6leAwHQic

Mikey's cousin, that he alluded to in that video and in that IG story, was from Mad Swan Bloods
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dannyprovolone on October 26, 2022, 03:40:02 PM
shot callers checkin in
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: R3dBullRox420 on October 26, 2022, 03:55:16 PM
hot take but the kid is a bit of a dunce, expecting to get his footage from the guy/company that put him on, filmed him, supported him in some way via taking him to spots and feeding him. After burning the guy/company by saying he no longer wants to be in his video. Guess everything was cool until Gifted Hater started talking shit, now junior doesn't want to play for the losing team. Mikey is probably the Kook of the Year, although he really wasn't exploiting this kid. Drove him around and filmed him and gave him some shine in the video. Pretty standard stuff for a flow kid to do. The kid is good but he's not blowing minds, pretty basic fs rail chomping by the looks of it.

Now that I think about it, it's pretty smart burning Mikey and IC with this shit, using the negative hype around him/ the brand to boost his own name. Becoming like a martyr for the cause. I'd be surprised if that was his angle all along.

Really, it just pretty wack to burn the dude that was putting you on, even if that guy is Mikey Alfred.

One of the kids jumping ship said they were being lied to about the footage and what was being used. The dude grinded like a 20-stair and it was put in the trailer.

Also Mikey mentioned having to also pay the filmer in addition to the $700k for hostage footage screenhots... but now the filmer is leaving?

The kids were probably eager to get started with a company that was at one point affiliated with reputable pros of today.
Like it or not IC did have some accolades before falling off

THe grom said I appreciate everything but it's time tog o, and Mikey responded sounds good bro. Mikey only retorted with the $700k ransom after the kid about the footage. $700k isn't a "sounds good bro" response. It's reasonable for him to ask for some cash to cover the time/effort but if he'd made a realistic figure he could've at least got some cash from a shitty situation.

The clickbait "we robbed someone" video has some susitivity and it seems probable that they didn't know how they'd be portrayed until seeing the final product

Obviously there are two sides to the story so we can't fully know... 
But if dishonesty, cringe marketing tactics, and using the brand social media to be defensive toward overwhelming valid constructive criticism.. aren't enough reasons to leave a brand in your opinion, I'm really curious to know what you would consider appropriate grounds to leave a brand?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on October 26, 2022, 03:56:09 PM
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Is it normal to ask $33 to get in the door at a premiere? Most premieres I have been to have been free. (Barring small premieres where the door pays for a case of beer or something.)
I know dude isn't having an open bar/buffet. That means $33 plus food/beverage. But hey...magic...i guess...
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Open your eyes
(https://i.imgur.com/dn4INnO.jpg)

<3
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Post by: djoekr on October 26, 2022, 03:56:54 PM
https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cd0_Lo4pdrJ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Wait is this Mikey's singing?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 26, 2022, 04:38:35 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CjDzTrBJaIG/

imagine having an ego like his with this level of artistic ability

Is that a thumbs up or a middle finger?
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Post by: left knee cap on October 26, 2022, 04:43:26 PM
Davonte and Sunny co-signed on Logan’s post.

Imagine Mikey just deleting Godspeed off the IC YouTube channel any moment now…
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Post by: Steely Daniel on October 26, 2022, 04:47:05 PM
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imagine having an ego like his with this level of artistic ability
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Is that a thumbs up or a middle finger?

That's what I was wondering along with "was this drawn by a child?"
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Post by: jakeumms on October 26, 2022, 05:01:50 PM
https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cd0_Lo4pdrJ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Wait is this Mikey's singing?
"You gotta pay for my time cuz I'm good lookin"

I think Mikey has been lacing his own music into his edits for a little while now
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Coastal Fever on October 26, 2022, 05:26:35 PM
Hate to say it but that’s a Jay Worthy track, of one few misfires in an otherwise mostly killer catalogue.  Makes perfect sense Mikey would be into it.
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Post by: jakeumms on October 26, 2022, 05:36:25 PM
Hate to say it but that’s a Jay Worthy track, of one few misfires in an otherwise mostly killer catalogue.  Makes perfect sense Mikey would be into it.
Thanks for the clarification. It's a pretty iffy track but it takes on a whole new dimension when Mikey keeps signing it into the camera
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Post by: DaleSr on October 26, 2022, 06:09:52 PM
Hate to say it but that’s a Jay Worthy track, of one few misfires in an otherwise mostly killer catalogue.  Makes perfect sense Mikey would be into it.

Ok now I'm curious what his shit sounds like
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He’s deserves that 700k he took them to spots AND bought them food.
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i know we're all joking about this, but this is actual grooming behavior and really suspect.
[close]

What exactly do you suspect Alfredo Mike to be up to?
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It IS possible to want to help and mentor other young men without it being grooming. The term, "grooming," has HEAVY sexual connotations attached to it and even though Mikey is Mikey, it's supremely fucked up to label someone as a groomer when you have absolutely no basis to do so. Maybe he was, "grooming," them to be a successful skateboarder.

Did Rick and Mike groom kids who they kept in flow purgatory? Has every other adult male who ran a board company and took kids on trips a predator?

Don't say that shit about someone.
[close]
Word the GQP loves that term and throws it around at educators like it's nothing. The term is getting mainstreamed the same way cuckold was.
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i wonder if actual cuckolds are pissed the same way skaters were when thrasher shirts were everywhere

imagine a group of poser-cuckolds hanging out bragging about their wives getting smashed but they don't have the clips to back it up.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: urbneathme on October 26, 2022, 10:08:21 PM
how do you premiere a video with no one in it?
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Post by: versacekid420 on October 26, 2022, 10:11:41 PM
how do you premiere a video with no one in it?
84% b-roll 16% $700k iphone clips
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 26, 2022, 10:15:06 PM
how do you premiere a video with no one in it?

with a "no refund" policy
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Post by: mamba on October 26, 2022, 10:26:25 PM
i can’t wait to see how pathetic and empty the actual premier is
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Post by: Jewel Runner on October 27, 2022, 03:21:18 AM
i can’t wait to see how pathetic and empty the actual premier is

so you'll be there? stream it like it was asked above lol
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Post by: DCLOVE on October 27, 2022, 03:52:51 AM
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so you'll be there? stream it like it was asked above lol

If slap buys my ticket and gives me a candy budget I’ll do it .
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Post by: one-off on October 27, 2022, 06:00:09 AM
This will all be explained in Jared Diamond’s next book

Guards, Geese, and Holograms: the Collapse of An Illegal Civilization
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lowcalcium on October 27, 2022, 06:13:44 AM
Just went through the whole thread. It goes from Mikey getting called out by Tyshawn for dressing wacky to the utter and complete collapse of Illegal Civilization.

Hollywood and the whole Los Angeles area in general just gives me the creeps. I just finished reading Less Than Zero by Bret Easton Ellis and I am thoroughly scared of the geography of the city. I hope Mikey Alfred finds himself soon and doesn't
end up getting lost up in the hills at parties on Mulholland Drive. The canyons will get you man, avoid them.
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Post by: Theme For A Jackal on October 27, 2022, 07:14:41 AM
Mikey really has the vibe of one of those kids on that MTV Sweet Sixteen show... like everything he does needs to be a production about him and also he wants several outfit changes and a musical number
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Post by: Lou Strux on October 27, 2022, 10:06:53 AM
Does you think we’ll be witnessing a live streamed social media meltdown, a’la the Doubles Ltd. debacle?
I admit I’m a horrible person for taking delight in the misfortunes of others, but I’m still gon’ pop some corn, cross my fingers & hope for a flaming fiasco.
Looking forward to his rebranded persona as a conservative pundit/impresario named Alf Michaels.
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Post by: pbj on October 27, 2022, 11:56:19 AM
https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cd0_Lo4pdrJ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Wait is this Mikey's singing?

Lmaooooo
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: ok boomer on October 27, 2022, 12:01:02 PM
there’s no way illegal civ is even worth 100k

there’s no way illegal civ is even worth $1.00
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dwyck on October 27, 2022, 04:10:57 PM
This is gifted haters fault
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GrayCellGreen on October 27, 2022, 04:28:40 PM
This is gifted haters fault

I sure hope so. His Mikey Alfred video had me cracking the fuck up
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lesghettah on October 27, 2022, 05:43:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB5Rs5xvBqY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB5Rs5xvBqY)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Steely Daniel on October 27, 2022, 06:29:25 PM
It's cool how everyone has a $1000 phone now and you still can't understand people speaking into these dogshit microphones.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: hayduke lives on October 27, 2022, 06:37:49 PM
i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Steely Daniel on October 27, 2022, 06:40:25 PM
i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.

There's a point where he's talking to some random person on the street even... I skimmed through and it gets a bit more audible but god damn I gave up. Someone in the TJ SOTY thread had the audacity to say this is a really good interview...
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lesghettah on October 27, 2022, 06:41:23 PM
i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.

the first thing Tyshawn says is "Let's discuss the man right here...I got 700K"

Then Gary laughs and briefly speaks on the subject.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lesghettah on October 27, 2022, 06:42:33 PM
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i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.
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There's a point where he's talking to some random person on the street even... I skimmed through and it gets a bit more audible but god damn I gave up. Someone in the TJ SOTY thread had the audacity to say this is a really good interview...

Bad audio but good interview, TJ talks about the current strategy of running for soty and about his roll out plans. Mentioned the new company is coming next month with more footage.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: hayduke lives on October 27, 2022, 07:05:41 PM
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i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.
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the first thing Tyshawn says is "Let's discuss the man right here...I got 700K"

Then Gary laughs and briefly speaks on the subject.

thanks! i heard when gary didn't want to talk shit on a fellow black man. which, i respect...but mikey, really? dude is such kook. did they actually discuss him or the 700k controversy? regardless, stoked tj is doing his own thing. wonder if it is gonna be under FA or all his own?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lesghettah on October 27, 2022, 07:22:19 PM
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i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.
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the first thing Tyshawn says is "Let's discuss the man right here...I got 700K"

Then Gary laughs and briefly speaks on the subject.
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thanks! i heard when gary didn't want to talk shit on a fellow black man. which, i respect...but mikey, really? dude is such kook. did they actually discuss him or the 700k controversy? regardless, stoked tj is doing his own thing. wonder if it is gonna be under FA or all his own?

No, they didn't actually talk about it. Gary said his piece about not wanting to add to the drama surrounding someone who's dealing with mental health and then changed the subject back to Tyshawn.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on October 27, 2022, 10:15:23 PM
Monster Energy, baby.  They're either bootleg apple headphones or those headphones are fuckin trashh
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: ice nine on October 27, 2022, 11:14:41 PM
tyshawn deserves soty for bringing down IC
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Idk on October 28, 2022, 04:48:14 AM
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i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.
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the first thing Tyshawn says is "Let's discuss the man right here...I got 700K"

Then Gary laughs and briefly speaks on the subject.
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thanks! i heard when gary didn't want to talk shit on a fellow black man. which, i respect...but mikey, really? dude is such kook. did they actually discuss him or the 700k controversy? regardless, stoked tj is doing his own thing. wonder if it is gonna be under FA or all his own?
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No, they didn't actually talk about it. Gary said his piece about not wanting to add to the drama surrounding someone who's dealing with mental health and then changed the subject back to Tyshawn.
Don’t worry Gary we’ll make fun of him on here. He’s one of the guests on this thread anyways.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on October 28, 2022, 05:53:20 AM
tyshawn deserves soty for bringing down IC

I can get behind this decision.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 28, 2022, 05:54:19 AM
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i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.
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the first thing Tyshawn says is "Let's discuss the man right here...I got 700K"

Then Gary laughs and briefly speaks on the subject.
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thanks! i heard when gary didn't want to talk shit on a fellow black man. which, i respect...but mikey, really? dude is such kook. did they actually discuss him or the 700k controversy? regardless, stoked tj is doing his own thing. wonder if it is gonna be under FA or all his own?
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No, they didn't actually talk about it. Gary said his piece about not wanting to add to the drama surrounding someone who's dealing with mental health and then changed the subject back to Tyshawn.
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Don’t worry Gary we’ll make fun of him on here. He’s one of the guests on this thread anyways.

What a blatant display of toxic positivity. Get real Gary, you're just embarrassed to be involved with that fucking clown. Don't try to disguise protecting your ego as some sort of gesture of racial equity, you are so full of shit.

Glad Tyshawn doesn't share this micro-brained perspective and just brought that shit up right off the jump. Tyshawn's the one that's actually out here doing shit for the black community, starting businesses, employing people, and having community events.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: slapcurbsnotwomen on October 28, 2022, 06:10:36 AM
Does you think we’ll be witnessing a live streamed social media meltdown, a’la the Doubles Ltd. debacle?
I admit I’m a horrible person for taking delight in the misfortunes of others, but I’m still gon’ pop some corn, cross my fingers & hope for a flaming fiasco.
Looking forward to his rebranded persona as a conservative pundit/impresario named Alf Michaels.

What ever happened to doubles? I know dude went nuts and would post the weirdest shit.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Idk on October 28, 2022, 06:11:54 AM
In the new YouTube interview Tyshawn says he skated an 8.18 the FA shape and 147s and 53s. The 8.18 FA shape is pretty square.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on October 28, 2022, 06:13:12 AM
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i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.
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the first thing Tyshawn says is "Let's discuss the man right here...I got 700K"

Then Gary laughs and briefly speaks on the subject.
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thanks! i heard when gary didn't want to talk shit on a fellow black man. which, i respect...but mikey, really? dude is such kook. did they actually discuss him or the 700k controversy? regardless, stoked tj is doing his own thing. wonder if it is gonna be under FA or all his own?
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No, they didn't actually talk about it. Gary said his piece about not wanting to add to the drama surrounding someone who's dealing with mental health and then changed the subject back to Tyshawn.
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Don’t worry Gary we’ll make fun of him on here. He’s one of the guests on this thread anyways.
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What a blatant display of toxic positivity. Get real Gary, you're just embarrassed to be involved with that fucking clown. Don't try to disguise protecting your ego as some sort of gesture of racial equity, you are so full of shit.

Glad Tyshawn doesn't share this micro-brained perspective and just brought that shit up right off the jump. Tyshawn's the one that's actually out here doing shit for the black community, starting businesses, employing people, and having community events.

I definitely got the vibe that since gary is somehow connected to IC/ Mikey  he was trying to put out a fire tyshawn was gonna start before it started. But I definitely think gary just did this to protect himself from scrutiny. Not cause he cares about Mikey. Get off your soapbox gary. You talk shit on a weekly show don’t act like this was anything more than trying save your ass from getting clowned on along with Mikey.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Idk on October 28, 2022, 06:32:04 AM
Almost every IC thing they’ve done Gary has either been at the show or in the video. He’s just trying not to get kooked out the industry. Which should’ve happened after Bake n Destroy when he kept calling Reynolds “Rick Reynolds” and kept air balling varial heels.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DERBY on October 28, 2022, 08:11:42 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQtovdL8bU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rubbrick on October 28, 2022, 08:12:43 AM
Yikes… Mikey accusing the teens that were on IC of being racist after leaving the team. Seems like a stretch, at least with the “88” Bam kid. He’s Hispanic and Mikey even said his bday was 8/8

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQtovdL8bU/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: yeayeaman on October 28, 2022, 08:21:08 AM
get this guy some help
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DERBY on October 28, 2022, 08:23:47 AM
mikey’s on some delusional shit at this point. i can’t handle that second slide with that smug ass look of his
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: alienlurkshop on October 28, 2022, 08:37:59 AM
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Does you think we’ll be witnessing a live streamed social media meltdown, a’la the Doubles Ltd. debacle?
I admit I’m a horrible person for taking delight in the misfortunes of others, but I’m still gon’ pop some corn, cross my fingers & hope for a flaming fiasco.
Looking forward to his rebranded persona as a conservative pundit/impresario named Alf Michaels.
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What ever happened to doubles? I know dude went nuts and would post the weirdest shit.
Mickey Alfredo is already on his way to becoming like Andy from doubles. Someone needs to get this dude help asap
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: usehername720 on October 28, 2022, 08:38:07 AM
Yikes… Mikey accusing the teens that were on IC of being racist after leaving the team. Seems like a stretch, at least with the “88” Bam kid. He’s Hispanic and Mikey even said his bday was 8/8

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQtovdL8bU/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

That is for sure a fucking stretch of the century, that kid is like 15 at the oldest, from the vids I’ve seen he is a typical fried teenager who would never have any idea of the meaning behind “88.” Why would a racist get on a team that has claimed to support black people and is black-owned? Not to mention that two of the skaters on the team are black, and Mikey never said anything while this whole group was still together. Absolutely fucking vile that he tarnishes this kid’s reputation over some petty bullshit. It’s not even like the Bam kid was disrespectful about leaving IC, I saw a story where he kept it as professional as he could and didn’t say anything directly against Mikey. Not to mention Mikey just calling Logan a “racist clout chaser” with absolutely ZERO fucking evidence besides the fact that Logan’s post about IC was his most popular.

These accusations are coming from Mikey, who thought that filming homeless people getting harassed and animal abuse was cool. Mikey calling IC a black-owned business and using that as a rhetoric to deflect criticism and to justify his actions is such a disrespect to black representation in the skate industry.

Mikey definitely deserves an ass beating atp, he needs to be put in his place. Disappointing to see thrasher and Reynolds’s and other figures in skating still follow them
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 28, 2022, 08:39:35 AM
"The days of white people embarrassing black people and making money off it are done", he says, embarrassing himself on a platform owned by and profiting Mark Zuckerberg.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on October 28, 2022, 08:41:24 AM
mikey’s on some delusional shit at this point. i can’t handle that second slide with that smug ass look of his
Very punchable face.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on October 28, 2022, 08:54:41 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQtovdL8bU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Wow. Dudes completely fucked.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HisNameIsntWarren on October 28, 2022, 08:55:37 AM
get this guy some help

Let him burn for his sins so we never have to see anymore from this shit fire company.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on October 28, 2022, 09:07:41 AM
"The days of white people embarrassing black people and making money off it are done", he says, embarrassing himself on a platform owned by and profiting Mark Zuckerberg.
I mean technically Zuckerberg only APPEARS to be a white humanoid.
(https://i.imgur.com/jACamOE.png)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on October 28, 2022, 09:08:16 AM
Insane racist claim against Logan for not wanting to be in this man's skateboard video. I guess Nakel and Tyshawn are racists too. No way I can support their new board brand knowing they BOTH took advantage of a black owned business for clout
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Cool Ceith on October 28, 2022, 09:09:34 AM
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Does you think we’ll be witnessing a live streamed social media meltdown, a’la the Doubles Ltd. debacle?
I admit I’m a horrible person for taking delight in the misfortunes of others, but I’m still gon’ pop some corn, cross my fingers & hope for a flaming fiasco.
Looking forward to his rebranded persona as a conservative pundit/impresario named Alf Michaels.
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What ever happened to doubles? I know dude went nuts and would post the weirdest shit.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113544.0
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Jewel Runner on October 28, 2022, 09:18:55 AM
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Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 28, 2022, 09:27:03 AM
Yikes… Mikey accusing the teens that were on IC of being racist after leaving the team. Seems like a stretch, at least with the “88” Bam kid. He’s Hispanic and Mikey even said his bday was 8/8

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQtovdL8bU/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Holy shit, it just keeps getting worse! lmfao.

Extort children and pull the race card when it goes south. What a total fucking clown.

He's legit putting that kid in danger spreading that type of misinformation.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 28, 2022, 09:35:23 AM
Really slimy and low of him trying to smear these kids as racists once they distanced themselves from his dumpster fire of a company. If they were so racist, why were they riding for you in the first place? He's on a Kanye meltdown trajectory
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: banksandledges on October 28, 2022, 09:58:24 AM
Mickey Alfred has the most punchable face
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: hayduke lives on October 28, 2022, 10:16:16 AM
schadenfreude i know, but i love this. although torn between being compassionate of someone else's mental struggles and thinking he deserves everything bad that comes his way, i'm leaning heavily toward the latter. i guess extreme narcissism is not a very sympathetic disorder. his projecting of "clout chaser" to these kids is too funny!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on October 28, 2022, 10:28:34 AM
Really slimy and low of him trying to smear these kids as racists once they distanced themselves from his dumpster fire of a company. If they were so racist, why were they riding for you in the first place? He's on a Kanye meltdown trajectory

Gotta disagree here, Kanye has incredible talent. Mikey has none and doesn’t even skate, it’s not like he’s some old pro starting a board company after his prime. He’s basically the Lou Pearlman of skateboarding, collecting a squad of young boys and exploiting / extorting them for profit.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on October 28, 2022, 10:38:07 AM
Really slimy and low of him trying to smear these kids as racists once they distanced themselves from his dumpster fire of a company. If they were so racist, why were they riding for you in the first place? He's on a Kanye meltdown trajectory

soon he’ll be blaming the jews (me) for his inevitable downfall
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Post by: Big Skatefase on October 28, 2022, 10:39:29 AM
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Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 28, 2022, 10:44:38 AM
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Really slimy and low of him trying to smear these kids as racists once they distanced themselves from his dumpster fire of a company. If they were so racist, why were they riding for you in the first place? He's on a Kanye meltdown trajectory
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Gotta disagree here, Kanye has incredible talent. Mikey has none and doesn’t even skate, it’s not like he’s some old pro starting a board company after his prime. He’s basically the Lou Pearlman of skateboarding, collecting a squad of young boys and exploiting / extorting them for profit.

I agree on the talent front, i was more referring to the insane impulse to post through crisis
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 28, 2022, 10:59:17 AM
Are we supposed to have compassion for "mental health issues" that are just the result of them willingly, consciously, being shitty egotistical people?

Like yea, you had a mental breakdown because everyone turned on you for doing some dumbass shit and your ego made you double/triple/quadruple down.

Sorry?

He clearly needs to have an ego death, those usually look like mental breakdowns from the outside.

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SatanicPanic on October 28, 2022, 11:07:47 AM
Are we supposed to have compassion for "mental health issues" that are just the result of them willingly, consciously, being shitty egotistical people?

Like yea, you had a mental breakdown because everyone turned on you for doing some dumbass shit and your ego made you double/triple/quadruple down.

Sorry?

He clearly needs to have an ego death, those usually look like mental breakdowns from the outside.
I don’t know the right way to say it but some narcissists/sociopaths practically cultivate bad mental health so they can milk it for sympathy. Or use it as a cover for shitty behavior.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: yourbreakfsat on October 28, 2022, 11:09:01 AM
Are we supposed to have compassion for "mental health issues" that are just the result of them willingly, consciously, being shitty egotistical people?

Like yea, you had a mental breakdown because everyone turned on you for doing some dumbass shit and your ego made you double/triple/quadruple down.

Sorry?

He clearly needs to have an ego death, those usually look like mental breakdowns from the outside.

Nope. Falling back to mental health issues in an attempt to deflect criticism is scummy and not a good excuse. These accusations of racism are also extremely dangerous for the kids he is accusing, since there are always people who will quickly accept accusations without questioning it or without proof.

Of course, death threats or wishes of self harm is never okay which personally I haven't seen anyone send to Mikey (then again there are literally thousands of comments on the IC page).
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Fartknocker415 on October 28, 2022, 11:20:19 AM
He's the worst I'm so excited for IC to die I love seeing all the little kids talking shit on iC saying its done. Dumb ass fucking company. Prime clout chaser calling other Kids out for what he literally did to get to where he's at
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: ok boomer on October 28, 2022, 11:20:44 AM
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Post by: manysnakes on October 28, 2022, 11:22:49 AM
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Are we supposed to have compassion for "mental health issues" that are just the result of them willingly, consciously, being shitty egotistical people?

Like yea, you had a mental breakdown because everyone turned on you for doing some dumbass shit and your ego made you double/triple/quadruple down.

Sorry?

He clearly needs to have an ego death, those usually look like mental breakdowns from the outside.
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I don’t know the right way to say it but some narcissists/sociopaths practically cultivate bad mental health so they can milk it for sympathy. Or use it as a cover for shitty behavior.

You also have to balance your sympathy for the unwell with the reality that millions of people are inducing their myriad mental illnesses by doing nothing but engaging with social media 24/7.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: camel filters on October 28, 2022, 11:26:42 AM
Imagine getting support from Tyshawn, Nak, Ishod, and other industry big names to support your company (even though they rode for other brands) and also having pretty promising talents such as Zach Sareceno and Alex Midler actually riding for your little kid drawing brand and still fucking that up. Wasn't a huge "Godspeed" fan but alot of hard work was put in for a company headed by a dude with zero vision or good ideas. Davonte Jolly is like Logan Lara and Mikey Alfred is Alex Olson if AO couldn't skate and was obsessed with Doritos instead of house music.
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Post by: IpathCats on October 28, 2022, 11:31:20 AM
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Are we supposed to have compassion for "mental health issues" that are just the result of them willingly, consciously, being shitty egotistical people?

Like yea, you had a mental breakdown because everyone turned on you for doing some dumbass shit and your ego made you double/triple/quadruple down.

Sorry?

He clearly needs to have an ego death, those usually look like mental breakdowns from the outside.
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I don’t know the right way to say it but some narcissists/sociopaths practically cultivate bad mental health so they can milk it for sympathy. Or use it as a cover for shitty behavior.
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You also have to balance your sympathy for the unwell with the reality that millions of people are inducing their myriad mental illnesses by doing nothing but engaging with social media 24/7.

Winner winner.

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on October 28, 2022, 11:32:24 AM
Imagine getting support from Tyshawn, Nak, Ishod, and other industry big names to support your company (even though they rode for other brands) and also having pretty promising talents such as Zach Sareceno and Alex Midler actually riding for your little kid drawing brand and still fucking that up. Wasn't a huge "Godspeed" fan but alot of hard work was put in for a company headed by a dude with zero vision or good ideas. Davonte Jolly is like Logan Lara and Mikey Alfred is Alex Olson if AO couldn't skate and was obsessed with Doritos instead of house music.
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: djoekr on October 28, 2022, 11:33:41 AM
Yikes… Mikey accusing the teens that were on IC of being racist after leaving the team. Seems like a stretch, at least with the “88” Bam kid. He’s Hispanic and Mikey even said his bday was 8/8

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQtovdL8bU/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I heard that the kid claimed he has ss back tail on lock. After some research I found out SS stands for Schutzstaffel??! Confirmed full blown neonazi.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: R3dBullRox420 on October 28, 2022, 11:46:28 AM
What a blatant display of toxic positivity. Get real Gary, you're just embarrassed to be involved with that fucking clown. Don't try to disguise protecting your ego as some sort of gesture of racial equity, you are so full of shit.

Do you know the context/status of their friendship currenty?
I haven't seen anything giving insight into the fallout with the OG crew.
There hasn't been any direct beef aside from the passive aggressive "no one wanted to promote it all good tho it's just business". The Mikey beef is with the new kids that quickly jumped ship (at least from what I've seen... I could def may have missed something tho?).

If they were close maybe it would be foul to jump in on the criticism publicly without chatting with Alfred beforehand.

Gary had a smile saying it so he could've been trolling with a cliche like that, and didn't want to just say "no comment" because he is Gary Rodgers and not some media-trained politician
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 28, 2022, 11:47:06 AM
If nothing else comes of this, I hope some people in skateboarding begin to understand that "[insert minority]-owned business" does not by its nature instill any particular virtue.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: big_kev_215 on October 28, 2022, 11:50:07 AM
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Yikes… Mikey accusing the teens that were on IC of being racist after leaving the team. Seems like a stretch, at least with the “88” Bam kid. He’s Hispanic and Mikey even said his bday was 8/8

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQtovdL8bU/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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I heard that the kid claimed he has ss back tail on lock. After some research I found out SS stands for Schutzstaffel??! Confirmed full blown neonazi.

I wonder whose graphic was sanded off to produce that hellweek deck

This should all be settled by having Mikey Alfred play Jonah Hill in a game of skate…
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 28, 2022, 12:08:02 PM
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What a blatant display of toxic positivity. Get real Gary, you're just embarrassed to be involved with that fucking clown. Don't try to disguise protecting your ego as some sort of gesture of racial equity, you are so full of shit.

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Do you know the context/status of their friendship currenty?
I haven't seen anything giving insight into the fallout with the OG crew.
There hasn't been any direct beef aside from the passive aggressive "no one wanted to promote it all good tho it's just business". The Mikey beef is with the new kids that quickly jumped ship (at least from what I've seen... I could def may have missed something tho?).

If they were close maybe it would be foul to jump in on the criticism publicly without chatting with Alfred beforehand.

Gary had a smile saying it so he could've been trolling with a cliche like that, and didn't want to just say "no comment" because he is Gary Rodgers and not some media-trained politician

No, I do not give a shit about Mr. Alfredos relationship status with Gary.

No relationship status makes feigning a stance on racial equity to swerve a topic the right move.

How long until Alfey reaches critical mass? Should we expect some grand display of rage at the premier? That would make a sick opener to that 8bam8 kids next part if he makes one.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lilyung on October 28, 2022, 12:34:51 PM
Yikes… Mikey accusing the teens that were on IC of being racist after leaving the team. Seems like a stretch, at least with the “88” Bam kid. He’s Hispanic and Mikey even said his bday was 8/8

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkQtovdL8bU/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Yeah that take definitely seemed like a big reach.
In the screencap you can see in the bio that the lil dude is sponsored or affiliated with Section8 clothing.
The soundcloud rap/hardcore fusion demographic of kids love that brand. The name itself is alluding to low income housing.

I think he's basically just shouting them out in his handle like how ppl would put xX Xx, or underscores at the end of screennames.

[ Sidenote tinfoil hat passing thought: I did not know number 88 was some Nazi symbol. Whatever happened to 88 footwear?
Dumbass logo had eagle wings haha. Kinda sus??? 🤨

Monster Energy, baby.  They're either bootleg apple headphones or those headphones are fuckin trashh

Eh they're ok. Quality it good for listening to music and stuff (if you're not the hi-fi audio enthusiasts prolly), but the tiny directional mics on em aren't great and dust can easily start muffling audio. Then there's a latency from bluetooth to phone.Then phone is also doing noise reduction and the vids running at variable frame rates. On top the fact he's prob just using cellular data with tends to fluctuate. All the makings for

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i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face?
Ngl I thought moving the cam/looking away was proper etiquette for video calls from smartphones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HNFeYYnG2g
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on October 28, 2022, 12:41:39 PM
If Tyshawn was feeling real petty he could reach out to these kids that Mikey is trying to cancel and help get them a platform to tell their side of the story.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dark Knight on October 28, 2022, 12:48:59 PM
All I care about is where Zach Saraceno ends up.  Kid is the illest.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 28, 2022, 12:50:34 PM
All I care about is where Zach Saraceno ends up.  Kid is the illest.

Would like to see more from him. My favorite from godspeed just because i wasnt expecting it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Pete on October 28, 2022, 12:59:50 PM
Can someone sum up in maybe like a paragraph why everyone turned on this dude? One minute he was doing Doritos commercials and turning that one jumpmanpeterpan guy pro, now nobody’s rocking with him.

I back it, dude was always whack. But what sparked all his homies and yesmen dipping?

Comparing him to Kanye is silly. That dude is really losing billions while trolling CEOs of established companies. Mikey Alvin is “jest dealing with the same whiteboy hate he’s been getting his whole life.” While being the whitest black dude since urkle.


Free max b



Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on October 28, 2022, 01:24:03 PM
I'm glad the 700K situation blew up and seemingly the whole industry is clowning him not just the dozens who post/lurk Slap
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: oyolar on October 28, 2022, 01:57:21 PM
We use soap on our cast irons every time we cook in them and then just heat them up to steam off all the water and add a thin layer of neutral oil and it’s fine. If you seasoned it fine the first time and you don’t let it sit in soapy water (or any water), it’ll be fine.

If you never use soap, you’re eventually just letting oil, butter, and juices sit and fester and go rancid on the pan. Seasoning on its own doesn’t make it anti-microbial or clean. It just stops stuff from sticking to it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: h00man on October 28, 2022, 02:15:24 PM
All I care about is where Zach Saraceno ends up.  Kid is the illest.

He'll end up with TJ's brand. He was skating the graphic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lp7eTOqhxU

3:37
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dr Waffles on October 28, 2022, 03:40:42 PM
[ Sidenote tinfoil hat passing thought: I did not know number 88 was some Nazi symbol. Whatever happened to 88 footwear?
Dumbass logo had eagle wings haha. Kinda sus??? 🤨


H is the eighth letter. It's used to say heil whats his face sometimes.

Whens the video premier. I hope someone on here goes to it. Or that no one shows up at all.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: skrub on October 28, 2022, 03:45:30 PM
Mikey could speak in a way that sounded "professional" and he looked clean and weird, so he sucked up corporate endorsemets and intros from people who thought he was the next "it" guy, and turned it into something for a minute, but when you hear him on Nine Club or Jenkem, he talks more about his ambition and "working hard" than he does about anything he's passionate about. Which is like... there's just no "there" there. When he was talking in the same passionate way about Doritos as he was Mid-90s I was like "oh this guy is not a genuinely talented ego-maniac, he's a fucking kook" because he only had one schtick, the sincere up-and-comer. Instead of intellectualizing Dorito's design aesthetics like a fool he should have said "I like Doritos and they offered me a ton of money so here we are."

I don't see any evidence he can actually ride a skateboard, but if he'd gotten less, slower, I wonder if he could have been a good filmer. His child-like drawings are not any worse than Neckface, Gonz, or Ed, so the fact that I hate them is meaningless. There's nothing worse about the brand as a brand than any other shitty skate brand I dislike.

Because his brand was built entirely on bullshit, when it started to fall apart, there was no real Mikey to fall back on, so you just see increasing try-hard nonsense and now the descent into delusional thinking. But the reality is when the people who matter / with the money see that you're bullshit, they move on to the next flavor of the week.

To me the kookiest thing is giving kids pot. In real life you either tell the little kids to go inside while you get high, or you tell them to fuck off, or you turn off the camera. It would have been a much better shot if he'd looked at the joints and the kids and said "ok ok stop filming," but he's too much of a poser to understand that.

More importantly -- I think if you use clarified butter when you fry a steak in cast iron, you get great butter flavor but you can do it at high af heat since it won't smoke once the milk solids have been removed. I have lodge an la cruset pans and I back la cruset 100% but my lodge pan is bigger so for certain things like burgers, it has to be lodge. Dawn is OK as long as you oil it and dry it really well asap. 

Anyway if Mikey isn't shilling NFTs next month I'll be surprised.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: ChrisSennsGirlfriend on October 28, 2022, 04:10:30 PM
These accusations are coming from Mikey, who thought that filming homeless people getting harassed and animal abuse was cool. Mikey calling IC a black-owned business and using that as a rhetoric to deflect criticism and to justify his actions is such a disrespect to black representation in the skate industry.

pretty much sums it up.

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on October 28, 2022, 04:36:05 PM
that bam kid probably isn’t even old enough to know what the fuck SS or 88 means. and these kids weren’t “racist” until they quit. bro is ragging on rich white kids when a good portion of early illegal civ was just that. i thought he lost it with that sweater tied around his neck a few years ago, but this is a whole new level.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pizza bitch on October 28, 2022, 05:28:56 PM
We use soap on our cast irons every time we cook in them and then just heat them up to steam off all the water and add a thin layer of neutral oil and it’s fine. If yo unseasoned it fine the first time and you don’t let it sit in soapy water (or any water), it’ll be fine.

If you never use soap, you’re eventually just letting oil, butter, and juices sit and fester and go rancid on the pan. Seasoning on its own doesn’t make it anti-microbial or clean. It just stops stuff from sticking to it.

Whats up Alfredo 👋
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Pete on October 28, 2022, 05:48:29 PM
Whoosh

Need to get into the cast iron game myself

Free max b
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: goodatmeth on October 28, 2022, 06:06:22 PM
that bam kid probably isn’t even old enough to know what the fuck SS or 88 means. and these kids weren’t “racist” until they quit. bro is ragging on rich white kids when a good portion of early illegal civ was just that. i thought he lost it with that sweater tied around his neck a few years ago, but this is a whole new level.

Turns out this little nazi is jewish.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/8bam8bam8/2959095048494670152/ (https://www.instagram.com/stories/8bam8bam8/2959095048494670152/)

Can't wait for the next blunder of Micky All fried
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: h00man on October 28, 2022, 06:07:54 PM
It's just free marketing for the 700k shirts...

I mean shit good for them.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 28, 2022, 06:50:53 PM
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that bam kid probably isn’t even old enough to know what the fuck SS or 88 means. and these kids weren’t “racist” until they quit. bro is ragging on rich white kids when a good portion of early illegal civ was just that. i thought he lost it with that sweater tied around his neck a few years ago, but this is a whole new level.
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Turns out this little nazi is jewish.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/8bam8bam8/2959095048494670152/ (https://www.instagram.com/stories/8bam8bam8/2959095048494670152/)

Can't wait for the next blunder of Micky All fried

Didn’t realize the kid was the one selling 700k shirts.  Imagine wearing one and explaining its meaning to a muggle
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on October 28, 2022, 07:00:17 PM
Nakel posted on history about how this kid needs Jay Z's help for the 700K now he tweeted this idk wtf he's talking about lmfao but imagine HOV vs lil Mikey

https://twitter.com/RevolutionNak/status/1586172125496299520?t=7wj1khaTsw2OaKgUPyQoOw&s=19
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on October 28, 2022, 07:04:01 PM
What’s great about Mikey going after those two teenage skate rats is that he’s a celebrity figure using his platform with 400k followers to slander them by calling them racists and hitler worshippers, which could be legitimate grounds for a defamation lawsuit. Would be hilarious if they sued for 700k in damages.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: passtheish on October 28, 2022, 07:41:52 PM
Can someone sum up in maybe like a paragraph why everyone turned on this dude? One minute he was doing Doritos commercials and turning that one jumpmanpeterpan guy pro, now nobody’s rocking with him.

I back it, dude was always whack. But what sparked all his homies and yesmen dipping?

Comparing him to Kanye is silly. That dude is really losing billions while trolling CEOs of established companies. Mikey Alvin is “jest dealing with the same whiteboy hate he’s been getting his whole life.” While being the whitest black dude since urkle.


Free max b

$$$ it turns out Not paying your riders is kinda a bad vibe
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Candied cigarettes on October 28, 2022, 07:57:47 PM
Wow reading the illegal civ ig comments sure is something rn. Mikey’s just losing his shit online
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on October 28, 2022, 08:41:09 PM

To me the kookiest thing is giving kids pot. In real life you either tell the little kids to go inside while you get high, or you tell them to fuck off, or you turn off the camera. It would have been a much better shot if he'd looked at the joints and the kids and said "ok ok stop filming," but he's too much of a poser to understand that.

would be a shame if he got arrested for giving weed to minors on video
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: big_kev_215 on October 28, 2022, 09:30:14 PM
Wow reading the illegal civ ig comments sure is something rn. Mikey’s just losing his shit online

(https://i.ibb.co/3CDMnLJ/E7-F06496-4598-4785-8371-75-C2-FDE859-D3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3CDMnLJ)

Mikey in the lab manufacturing absurd connections to hurl accusations of racism
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: oyolar on October 28, 2022, 09:36:17 PM
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We use soap on our cast irons every time we cook in them and then just heat them up to steam off all the water and add a thin layer of neutral oil and it’s fine. If yo unseasoned it fine the first time and you don’t let it sit in soapy water (or any water), it’ll be fine.

If you never use soap, you’re eventually just letting oil, butter, and juices sit and fester and go rancid on the pan. Seasoning on its own doesn’t make it anti-microbial or clean. It just stops stuff from sticking to it.
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Whats up Alfredo 👋

No idea who that is but I’ve been posting here for years longer than you so not sure if your “sick burn” really lands
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on October 28, 2022, 09:42:15 PM
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We use soap on our cast irons every time we cook in them and then just heat them up to steam off all the water and add a thin layer of neutral oil and it’s fine. If yo unseasoned it fine the first time and you don’t let it sit in soapy water (or any water), it’ll be fine.

If you never use soap, you’re eventually just letting oil, butter, and juices sit and fester and go rancid on the pan. Seasoning on its own doesn’t make it anti-microbial or clean. It just stops stuff from sticking to it.
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Whats up Alfredo 👋
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No idea who that is but I’ve been posting here for years longer than you so not sure of your “sick burn” really lands
well i’ve been posting on facebook longer than you. land on that loser  >:(
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fakie nollie on October 28, 2022, 10:04:16 PM
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We use soap on our cast irons every time we cook in them and then just heat them up to steam off all the water and add a thin layer of neutral oil and it’s fine. If yo unseasoned it fine the first time and you don’t let it sit in soapy water (or any water), it’ll be fine.

If you never use soap, you’re eventually just letting oil, butter, and juices sit and fester and go rancid on the pan. Seasoning on its own doesn’t make it anti-microbial or clean. It just stops stuff from sticking to it.
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Whats up Alfredo 👋
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No idea who that is but I’ve been posting here for years longer than you so not sure of your “sick burn” really lands

You just sick burned yourself with that weird flex
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: oyolar on October 28, 2022, 11:29:47 PM
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We use soap on our cast irons every time we cook in them and then just heat them up to steam off all the water and add a thin layer of neutral oil and it’s fine. If yo unseasoned it fine the first time and you don’t let it sit in soapy water (or any water), it’ll be fine.

If you never use soap, you’re eventually just letting oil, butter, and juices sit and fester and go rancid on the pan. Seasoning on its own doesn’t make it anti-microbial or clean. It just stops stuff from sticking to it.
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Whats up Alfredo 👋
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No idea who that is but I’ve been posting here for years longer than you so not sure of your “sick burn” really lands
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You just sick burned yourself with that weird flex

Nah. I’m cool with it when I’m pointing out how stupid a poster who thinks I’m an IC plant is.

My weird flex is actually a totally normal flex thank you very much.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lilyung on October 28, 2022, 11:51:46 PM
Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html

12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: skate_or_dingus on October 29, 2022, 12:43:42 AM
Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html

Narc
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: opesorry on October 29, 2022, 05:56:21 AM
Nakel posted on history about how this kid needs Jay Z's help for the 700K now he tweeted this idk wtf he's talking about lmfao but imagine HOV vs lil Mikey

https://twitter.com/RevolutionNak/status/1586172125496299520?t=7wj1khaTsw2OaKgUPyQoOw&s=19

Mikey actually getting 700k would suck though, then his dumb shit worked
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rawbertson. on October 29, 2022, 06:35:21 AM
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Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
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12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed

go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 29, 2022, 06:44:39 AM
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Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
[close]

12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
[close]

go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here

I respectfully disagree.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rawbertson. on October 29, 2022, 06:53:36 AM
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Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
[close]

12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
[close]

go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
[close]

I respectfully disagree.

i am a bit ashamed of myself that i could understand that entire thing without having to look anything up. I listened to Frank Ocean ONE TIME cause lil dre posted a reel with it and i was like "what in the fuck is this music"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 29, 2022, 08:52:22 AM
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Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
[close]

12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
[close]

go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
[close]

I respectfully disagree.
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i am a bit ashamed of myself that i could understand that entire thing without having to look anything up. I listened to Frank Ocean ONE TIME cause lil dre posted a reel with it and i was like "what in the fuck is this music"

You don't have to post Ls like this
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: donkey on October 29, 2022, 10:20:45 AM
Mikey could speak in a way that sounded "professional" and he looked clean and weird, so he sucked up corporate endorsemets and intros from people who thought he was the next "it" guy, and turned it into something for a minute, but when you hear him on Nine Club or Jenkem, he talks more about his ambition and "working hard" than he does about anything he's passionate about. Which is like... there's just no "there" there. When he was talking in the same passionate way about Doritos as he was Mid-90s I was like "oh this guy is not a genuinely talented ego-maniac, he's a fucking kook" because he only had one schtick, the sincere up-and-comer. Instead of intellectualizing Dorito's design aesthetics like a fool he should have said "I like Doritos and they offered me a ton of money so here we are."

I don't see any evidence he can actually ride a skateboard, but if he'd gotten less, slower, I wonder if he could have been a good filmer. His child-like drawings are not any worse than Neckface, Gonz, or Ed, so the fact that I hate them is meaningless. There's nothing worse about the brand as a brand than any other shitty skate brand I dislike.

Because his brand was built entirely on bullshit, when it started to fall apart, there was no real Mikey to fall back on, so you just see increasing try-hard nonsense and now the descent into delusional thinking. But the reality is when the people who matter / with the money see that you're bullshit, they move on to the next flavor of the week.

To me the kookiest thing is giving kids pot. In real life you either tell the little kids to go inside while you get high, or you tell them to fuck off, or you turn off the camera. It would have been a much better shot if he'd looked at the joints and the kids and said "ok ok stop filming," but he's too much of a poser to understand that.

More importantly -- I think if you use clarified butter when you fry a steak in cast iron, you get great butter flavor but you can do it at high af heat since it won't smoke once the milk solids have been removed. I have lodge an la cruset pans and I back la cruset 100% but my lodge pan is bigger so for certain things like burgers, it has to be lodge. Dawn is OK as long as you oil it and dry it really well asap. 

Anyway if Mikey isn't shilling NFTs next month I'll be surprised.

i would say that you’re wrong and gonz and neckface’s drawings are much more visually pleasing to the eye. everything else is on point
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on October 29, 2022, 11:10:24 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CjDzTrBJaIG/

imagine having an ego like his with this level of artistic ability

http://youtu.be/blppKS-nz9g
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Idk on October 29, 2022, 11:37:34 AM
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Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
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12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
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go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
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I respectfully disagree.
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i am a bit ashamed of myself that i could understand that entire thing without having to look anything up. I listened to Frank Ocean ONE TIME cause lil dre posted a reel with it and i was like "what in the fuck is this music"
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You don't have to post Ls like this
I was going to say. Franks music is one of the few things right about the current music landscape.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 29, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Who’s owned an Ill Civ deck?
Tryna ascertain what wood shop they decks be pressed by, and also solicit impressions/opinions on the shapes.
Way I figure: there’s about to be a warehouse of these things dumped onto the market at close-out prices.
I might like to be ready for that (seemingly inevitable) eventuality if’n they wood is good & they’ve got at least one shape I can gel with.
Some rattle can, or Brimmo’s razor technique & who’s to know your quiet shame from riding an Ill Civ bloard?!?
NOBODY, that’s who! 🛹👀🤑‼️
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 29, 2022, 01:24:50 PM
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Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
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12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
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go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
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I respectfully disagree.
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i am a bit ashamed of myself that i could understand that entire thing without having to look anything up. I listened to Frank Ocean ONE TIME cause lil dre posted a reel with it and i was like "what in the fuck is this music"
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You don't have to post Ls like this
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I was going to say. Franks music is one of the few things right about the current music landscape.

The man hasn't dropped an album in like 7 years and is still better than almost anything in the current zeitgeist
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lowcalcium on October 29, 2022, 02:51:30 PM
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Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
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12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
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go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
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I respectfully disagree.
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i am a bit ashamed of myself that i could understand that entire thing without having to look anything up. I listened to Frank Ocean ONE TIME cause lil dre posted a reel with it and i was like "what in the fuck is this music"
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You don't have to post Ls like this
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I was going to say. Franks music is one of the few things right about the current music landscape.
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The man hasn't dropped an album in like 7 years and is still better than almost anything in the current zeitgeist

I couldn't agree more. I put on Channel Orange all the time and it puts me in a strange mind space of bliss and contemplation.

Thanks Frank  ;D
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 29, 2022, 02:52:37 PM
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Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
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12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
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go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
[close]

I respectfully disagree.
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i am a bit ashamed of myself that i could understand that entire thing without having to look anything up. I listened to Frank Ocean ONE TIME cause lil dre posted a reel with it and i was like "what in the fuck is this music"
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You don't have to post Ls like this
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I was going to say. Franks music is one of the few things right about the current music landscape.
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The man hasn't dropped an album in like 7 years and is still better than almost anything in the current zeitgeist
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I couldn't agree more. I put on Channel Orange all the time and it puts me in a strange mind space of bliss and contemplation.

Thanks Frank  ;D

Nights and crack rock have probably been in my most played every year since either of those albums dropped
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sebastian on October 30, 2022, 12:08:53 AM
Intense this all happened in the span of like 5 days!

It's always a weird fucking dumb move taking your personal beef and airing it out through your brand, most often you just sink your own shit. If he had half a brain he'd have distanced his own shit from IC and maybe they wouldn't be drowning in a bunch of comments calling him a kook.

He'll probably manage to sell all this "engagement" to some dumb brand anyways.

Always a weird move to let someone who doesn't skate try to run something in the skate world.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: big_kev_215 on October 30, 2022, 03:38:21 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/Df7VKpJ/4456-A863-93-B3-4-C63-8-F81-B1-B97-F404-A04.png) (https://ibb.co/Df7VKpJ)

I’m just bummed they’ve sold out of the Wayne x Midler poster before I could get my hands on it
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 30, 2022, 05:08:02 PM
In case you somehow missed it. Also Spike Jonze and Jonah Hill have six Oscars, between them. Probably not the best thing to go burning bridges with them.

https://youtu.be/HiVbpAK-LlU
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rickdizzo on October 30, 2022, 05:18:31 PM
it’s one thing to be a shitty skater but good filmer, photographer, designer, etc (he’s shit at all of those roles anyways) for skating. But to be a shitty skater and acting like you should have authority over ppl who actually can skate laps around you?? dudes a dumbass to say the least.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: hayduke lives on October 30, 2022, 06:22:36 PM
https://youtu.be/6Bcj14h3jco

robert evans (guy mikey's mom worked for) is a huge egomaniac too. this mr. show clip is a dead on parody of the audiobook he made of his autobiography "the kid stays in the picture"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 30, 2022, 06:57:04 PM
https://youtu.be/6Bcj14h3jco

robert evans (guy mikey's mom worked for) is a huge egomaniac too. this mr. show clip is a dead on parody of the audiobook he made of his autobiography "the kid stays in the picture"

I had no idea that's what this was about. I assumed it was just a Hollywood blowhard. Honestly if Robert Evans book sounds this way that actually makes me like him more.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 30, 2022, 06:59:40 PM
In case you somehow missed it. Also Spike Jonze and Jonah Hill have six Oscars, between them. Probably not the best thing to go burning bridges with them.

https://youtu.be/HiVbpAK-LlU



Hate to fact check you here but they have 1 win between them and 5 noms.   Also, they are far from pillars of the industry these days.   You could alienate them and get by if you have talent.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: hayduke lives on October 30, 2022, 07:32:37 PM

I had no idea that's what this was about. I assumed it was just a Hollywood blowhard. Honestly if Robert Evans book sounds this way that actually makes me like him more.

haha! ya, it's a great listen. checked it out after odenkirk mentioned it in a interview. evans actually made some good movies, unlike mikey.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pbj on October 30, 2022, 08:29:31 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lp7eTOqhxU

3:37

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i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.
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the first thing Tyshawn says is "Let's discuss the man right here...I got 700K"

Then Gary laughs and briefly speaks on the subject.
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thanks! i heard when gary didn't want to talk shit on a fellow black man. which, i respect...but mikey, really? dude is such kook. did they actually discuss him or the 700k controversy? regardless, stoked tj is doing his own thing. wonder if it is gonna be under FA or all his own?
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No, they didn't actually talk about it. Gary said his piece about not wanting to add to the drama surrounding someone who's dealing with mental health and then changed the subject back to Tyshawn.
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Don’t worry Gary we’ll make fun of him on here. He’s one of the guests on this thread anyways.
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What a blatant display of toxic positivity. Get real Gary, you're just embarrassed to be involved with that fucking clown. Don't try to disguise protecting your ego as some sort of gesture of racial equity, you are so full of shit.

Glad Tyshawn doesn't share this micro-brained perspective and just brought that shit up right off the jump. Tyshawn's the one that's actually out here doing shit for the black community, starting businesses, employing people, and having community events.
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I definitely got the vibe that since gary is somehow connected to IC/ Mikey  he was trying to put out a fire tyshawn was gonna start before it started. But I definitely think gary just did this to protect himself from scrutiny. Not cause he cares about Mikey. Get off your soapbox gary. You talk shit on a weekly show don’t act like this was anything more than trying save your ass from getting clowned on along with Mikey.

right, Gary downplaying the situation while running a weekly show dedicated to talking shit is laughable.

as others mentioned, he has IC pro boards on his wall in that interview and funnily enough still had an IC board setup yesterday at the Halloween Hellride.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DCLOVE on October 30, 2022, 08:47:40 PM
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Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
[close]

12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
[close]

go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
[close]

I respectfully disagree.
[close]

i am a bit ashamed of myself that i could understand that entire thing without having to look anything up. I listened to Frank Ocean ONE TIME cause lil dre posted a reel with it and i was like "what in the fuck is this music"
[close]

You don't have to post Ls like this
[close]
I was going to say. Franks music is one of the few things right about the current music landscape.
[close]

The man hasn't dropped an album in like 7 years and is still better than almost anything in the current zeitgeist
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I couldn't agree more. I put on Channel Orange all the time and it puts me in a strange mind space of bliss and contemplation.

Thanks Frank  ;D
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Nights and crack rock have probably been in my most played every year since either of those albums dropped

Crack rock is a decade old and still feels fresh. Funny frank gets brought up in this thread cause I’ve had an issue with listening to Chanel since I found out that clips on clips like Mike line is about Mikey . Wish he could go back and edit it haha.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pbj on October 30, 2022, 08:52:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KBoB5v0.png)

double posting to ad, you have to be lacking in any/all self awareness to post this on your brand's socials. the baseless accusations of racism against kids that are barely teenagers is one thing, but to call them "rich white kids" is a whole other thing entirely when you're the owner and you're responding to a t-shirt being sold parodying your request for $700,000 for a single video part of said "rich white" teenager.

using your brand's platform to engage in beef is unprofessional enough, but if you are going to respond, at the very least you should probably have some base to your claims. Mikey is just making things worse for himself, without a doubt. and my guess would be that's probably one of his biggest problems.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: FatGuy92 on October 30, 2022, 11:22:03 PM
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He'll end up with TJ's brand. He was skating the graphic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lp7eTOqhxU

3:37
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i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.
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the first thing Tyshawn says is "Let's discuss the man right here...I got 700K"

Then Gary laughs and briefly speaks on the subject.
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thanks! i heard when gary didn't want to talk shit on a fellow black man. which, i respect...but mikey, really? dude is such kook. did they actually discuss him or the 700k controversy? regardless, stoked tj is doing his own thing. wonder if it is gonna be under FA or all his own?
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No, they didn't actually talk about it. Gary said his piece about not wanting to add to the drama surrounding someone who's dealing with mental health and then changed the subject back to Tyshawn.
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Don’t worry Gary we’ll make fun of him on here. He’s one of the guests on this thread anyways.
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What a blatant display of toxic positivity. Get real Gary, you're just embarrassed to be involved with that fucking clown. Don't try to disguise protecting your ego as some sort of gesture of racial equity, you are so full of shit.

Glad Tyshawn doesn't share this micro-brained perspective and just brought that shit up right off the jump. Tyshawn's the one that's actually out here doing shit for the black community, starting businesses, employing people, and having community events.
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I definitely got the vibe that since gary is somehow connected to IC/ Mikey  he was trying to put out a fire tyshawn was gonna start before it started. But I definitely think gary just did this to protect himself from scrutiny. Not cause he cares about Mikey. Get off your soapbox gary. You talk shit on a weekly show don’t act like this was anything more than trying save your ass from getting clowned on along with Mikey.
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right, Gary downplaying the situation while running a weekly show dedicated to talking shit is laughable.

as others mentioned, he has IC pro boards on his wall in that interview and funnily enough still had an IC board setup yesterday at the Halloween Hellride.

Pretty sure Gary was a commentator at some contest within the last year and spent a good few minutes talking up Mikey and IC while Jamie Foy was skating (and ended up winning best trick IIRC)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 31, 2022, 06:01:23 AM
It's pretty funny how IC is failing despite all the favors/connections/privilege Alfredo mike had.

People were actually buying this shit despite his HORRIBLE "art" and at the very least people respected the skating.

All he had to do was take care of his riders, stfu, and not totally kook it.

And he just couldn't manage to do that lol was NOT in the cards for him
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: augustmoon on October 31, 2022, 06:52:28 AM
If you’re just getting by on connections and marketing speak with no actual substance to what you’re doing, eventually your well is going to run dry.  Especially if you’re throwing Hollywood royalty under the bus publicly just because you didn’t get what you wanted when you wanted.  The absolute audacity of this dude is actually shocking. 
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He'll end up with TJ's brand. He was skating the graphic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lp7eTOqhxU

3:37
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i could not make it more than a minute or so into that. holy shit! why do the interview if you can't even bother to point the phone at your face? it was funny seeing gary rogers has ic boards as wall hangers. hope OP or someone with a higher tolerance for shitty a/v quality posts synopsis.
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the first thing Tyshawn says is "Let's discuss the man right here...I got 700K"

Then Gary laughs and briefly speaks on the subject.
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thanks! i heard when gary didn't want to talk shit on a fellow black man. which, i respect...but mikey, really? dude is such kook. did they actually discuss him or the 700k controversy? regardless, stoked tj is doing his own thing. wonder if it is gonna be under FA or all his own?
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No, they didn't actually talk about it. Gary said his piece about not wanting to add to the drama surrounding someone who's dealing with mental health and then changed the subject back to Tyshawn.
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Don’t worry Gary we’ll make fun of him on here. He’s one of the guests on this thread anyways.
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What a blatant display of toxic positivity. Get real Gary, you're just embarrassed to be involved with that fucking clown. Don't try to disguise protecting your ego as some sort of gesture of racial equity, you are so full of shit.

Glad Tyshawn doesn't share this micro-brained perspective and just brought that shit up right off the jump. Tyshawn's the one that's actually out here doing shit for the black community, starting businesses, employing people, and having community events.
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I definitely got the vibe that since gary is somehow connected to IC/ Mikey  he was trying to put out a fire tyshawn was gonna start before it started. But I definitely think gary just did this to protect himself from scrutiny. Not cause he cares about Mikey. Get off your soapbox gary. You talk shit on a weekly show don’t act like this was anything more than trying save your ass from getting clowned on along with Mikey.
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right, Gary downplaying the situation while running a weekly show dedicated to talking shit is laughable.

as others mentioned, he has IC pro boards on his wall in that interview and funnily enough still had an IC board setup yesterday at the Halloween Hellride.
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Pretty sure Gary was a commentator at some contest within the last year and spent a good few minutes talking up Mikey and IC while Jamie Foy was skating (and ended up winning best trick IIRC)

Totally forgot about this, it was actually when they were replaying Jamie Foys run/ best trick win clip and Gary is completely ignoring it while rambling about North Hollywood and all the “dope shit” IC has planned for this year. Apparently paying your riders in hamburger patties and shared joints isn’t the best way to manage a company. Odd that Gary is so invested in this kook.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on October 31, 2022, 08:52:15 AM
If you’re just getting by on connections and marketing speak with no actual substance to what you’re doing, eventually your well is going to run dry.  Especially if you’re throwing Hollywood royalty under the bus publicly just because you didn’t get what you wanted when you wanted.  The absolute audacity of this dude is actually shocking.
Failing upward 101- Be born setup to succeed. Never take responsibility.  Always take credit.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 31, 2022, 08:56:47 AM
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In case you somehow missed it. Also Spike Jonze and Jonah Hill have six Oscars, between them. Probably not the best thing to go burning bridges with them.

https://youtu.be/HiVbpAK-LlU
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Hate to fact check you here but they have 1 win between them and 5 noms.   Also, they are far from pillars of the industry these days.   You could alienate them and get by if you have talent.

My mistake. I did a quick Google search and that's what it came up, but that was the total number of nominations, not wins. I don't know anything about Hollywood, but aren't both of these people pretty big players? Spike Jonze has a new movie coming out at Christmas starring Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, which sounds like a big deal to me but I have no idea.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 31, 2022, 09:00:25 AM
If this young buck was really the little rich kid Mr. Alfred alleges he is, wouldn’t he already be in possession of those clips?
700K is chump change for rich kids.
Right, Mikey?!?

Also, does anybody else find the hell week deck graphic gratifyingly prophetic?

(https://i.ibb.co/n6qkYmL/Burning-Civ.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MZyNtSC)

“That’s the thing about hell weak, not every [lifestyle brand] makes it.” -Michelangelo Alfredocini
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on October 31, 2022, 09:06:17 AM
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In case you somehow missed it. Also Spike Jonze and Jonah Hill have six Oscars, between them. Probably not the best thing to go burning bridges with them.

https://youtu.be/HiVbpAK-LlU
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Hate to fact check you here but they have 1 win between them and 5 noms.   Also, they are far from pillars of the industry these days.   You could alienate them and get by if you have talent.
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My mistake. I did a quick Google search and that's what it came up, but that was the total number of nominations, not wins. I don't know anything about Hollywood, but aren't both of these people pretty big players? Spike Jonze has a new movie coming out at Christmas starring Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, which sounds like a big deal to me but I have no idea.

Are you thinking of Babylon?  That’s a Damien Chazelle flick I’m pretty sure. 

Shitting on Jonah and Spike are just dumb things to do, clearly he wanted them to Executive Produce North Hollywood and I guarantee they weren’t fans of the script Mikey cobbled together in a couple months (Jonah and Spike, and most proper filmmakers spend years developing their screenplays).

He also posted his agency’s (William Morris Endeavor) pass emails from all the studios/distributors on instagram and you could still read the execs names and their reactions to the film, such a clown…

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBn2pyrnrmc/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 31, 2022, 09:07:50 AM
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In case you somehow missed it. Also Spike Jonze and Jonah Hill have six Oscars, between them. Probably not the best thing to go burning bridges with them.

https://youtu.be/HiVbpAK-LlU
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Hate to fact check you here but they have 1 win between them and 5 noms.   Also, they are far from pillars of the industry these days.   You could alienate them and get by if you have talent.
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My mistake. I did a quick Google search and that's what it came up, but that was the total number of nominations, not wins. I don't know anything about Hollywood, but aren't both of these people pretty big players? Spike Jonze has a new movie coming out at Christmas starring Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, which sounds like a big deal to me but I have no idea.
For the conspiracy thread: Turns out Spike directed his people to quietly pay the whole IC team to bail as retribution for his mud slinging.
Would take a skate minded person to know how/when to kneecap a company that effectively.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on October 31, 2022, 09:16:18 AM
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In case you somehow missed it. Also Spike Jonze and Jonah Hill have six Oscars, between them. Probably not the best thing to go burning bridges with them.

https://youtu.be/HiVbpAK-LlU
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Hate to fact check you here but they have 1 win between them and 5 noms.   Also, they are far from pillars of the industry these days.   You could alienate them and get by if you have talent.
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My mistake. I did a quick Google search and that's what it came up, but that was the total number of nominations, not wins. I don't know anything about Hollywood, but aren't both of these people pretty big players? Spike Jonze has a new movie coming out at Christmas starring Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, which sounds like a big deal to me but I have no idea.
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For the conspiracy thread: Turns out Spike directed his people to quietly pay the whole IC team to bail as retribution for his mud slinging.
Would take a skate minded person to know how/when to kneecap a company that effectively.

They're all on Girl, now.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Allen. on October 31, 2022, 09:38:12 AM
Is that drawing of a birdman planting a flag in flesh
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Post by: Rune Spliffberg on October 31, 2022, 09:58:09 AM
Is that drawing of a birdman planting a flag in flesh

also i am curious as to whether or not the bird-man's flesh is made out of dorito?
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Post by: IpathCats on October 31, 2022, 10:05:40 AM
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also i am curious as to whether or not the bird-man's flesh is made out of dorito?

That would def explain the whole doritos being "connected to skateboarding in an authentic way" thing. Maybe M. Alfredo knows something we dont.
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 31, 2022, 11:04:52 AM
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In case you somehow missed it. Also Spike Jonze and Jonah Hill have six Oscars, between them. Probably not the best thing to go burning bridges with them.

https://youtu.be/HiVbpAK-LlU
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Hate to fact check you here but they have 1 win between them and 5 noms.   Also, they are far from pillars of the industry these days.   You could alienate them and get by if you have talent.
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My mistake. I did a quick Google search and that's what it came up, but that was the total number of nominations, not wins. I don't know anything about Hollywood, but aren't both of these people pretty big players? Spike Jonze has a new movie coming out at Christmas starring Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, which sounds like a big deal to me but I have no idea.
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Are you thinking of Babylon?  That’s a Damien Chazelle flick I’m pretty sure. 

Shitting on Jonah and Spike are just dumb things to do, clearly he wanted them to Executive Produce North Hollywood and I guarantee they weren’t fans of the script Mikey cobbled together in a couple months (Jonah and Spike, and most proper filmmakers spend years developing their screenplays).

He also posted his agency’s (William Morris Endeavor) pass emails from all the studios/distributors on instagram and you could still read the execs names and their reactions to the film, such a clown…

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBn2pyrnrmc/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


Also, he has no concept that in LA, everyone makes their rejections nice as possible just in case and it being “too small” is the nicest rejection you could do that no one will ever hold against you.  Mid90s only got made bc A24 was a distributor already and wanted to be in the Jonah Hill business.   
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 31, 2022, 11:18:09 AM
Think of how crushing it must feel to standby & witness your industry contemporaries collabing w/ luxury brands & the like, while you’re stuck shilling for Doritos, trying to convince people of how iconic a triangle is.
It’s gotta burn a little & frankly, you just love to see it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 31, 2022, 11:20:16 AM
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In case you somehow missed it. Also Spike Jonze and Jonah Hill have six Oscars, between them. Probably not the best thing to go burning bridges with them.

https://youtu.be/HiVbpAK-LlU
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Hate to fact check you here but they have 1 win between them and 5 noms.   Also, they are far from pillars of the industry these days.   You could alienate them and get by if you have talent.
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My mistake. I did a quick Google search and that's what it came up, but that was the total number of nominations, not wins. I don't know anything about Hollywood, but aren't both of these people pretty big players? Spike Jonze has a new movie coming out at Christmas starring Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, which sounds like a big deal to me but I have no idea.
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Are you thinking of Babylon?  That’s a Damien Chazelle flick I’m pretty sure. 

Shitting on Jonah and Spike are just dumb things to do, clearly he wanted them to Executive Produce North Hollywood and I guarantee they weren’t fans of the script Mikey cobbled together in a couple months (Jonah and Spike, and most proper filmmakers spend years developing their screenplays).

He also posted his agency’s (William Morris Endeavor) pass emails from all the studios/distributors on instagram and you could still read the execs names and their reactions to the film, such a clown…

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBn2pyrnrmc/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Also, he has no concept that in LA, everyone makes their rejections nice as possible just in case and it being “too small” is the nicest rejection you could do that no one will ever hold against you.  Mid90s only got made bc A24 was a distributor already and wanted to be in the Jonah Hill business.

"we love it, but there's no chance we put our name on it and distribute it"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: yourbreakfsat on October 31, 2022, 11:38:44 AM
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In case you somehow missed it. Also Spike Jonze and Jonah Hill have six Oscars, between them. Probably not the best thing to go burning bridges with them.

https://youtu.be/HiVbpAK-LlU
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Hate to fact check you here but they have 1 win between them and 5 noms.   Also, they are far from pillars of the industry these days.   You could alienate them and get by if you have talent.
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My mistake. I did a quick Google search and that's what it came up, but that was the total number of nominations, not wins. I don't know anything about Hollywood, but aren't both of these people pretty big players? Spike Jonze has a new movie coming out at Christmas starring Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, which sounds like a big deal to me but I have no idea.
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Are you thinking of Babylon?  That’s a Damien Chazelle flick I’m pretty sure. 

Shitting on Jonah and Spike are just dumb things to do, clearly he wanted them to Executive Produce North Hollywood and I guarantee they weren’t fans of the script Mikey cobbled together in a couple months (Jonah and Spike, and most proper filmmakers spend years developing their screenplays).

He also posted his agency’s (William Morris Endeavor) pass emails from all the studios/distributors on instagram and you could still read the execs names and their reactions to the film, such a clown…

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBn2pyrnrmc/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Offtopic (but kinda related?):

First time seeing this post and WOW he really tries to make it deeper than it actually is.

North Hollywood had terrible writing. Main character is static and a complete dick throughout the whole movie. Many of his interactions with the other characters is summed up as:

A: "I want to be a professional skater."
B: "Well I don't, I'm not looking to have skating as a job and I want to go to college or work."
A: "You're a bitch and fucking useless to me."

I'm not even kidding, this is quite literally what happens in the movie.

The movie is riddled with cameos just for the sake of it. Miranda Cosgrove's character was pointless and was only added just so her name could be put on the headline. If her character was removed, the plot would be unchanged. Vince Vaughn's character was obviously supposed to be unlikeable but he's actually one of the most down to earth characters, alongside with Aramis Hudson's character whose name is Adolf (symbolism?).
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: timemachine on October 31, 2022, 11:58:08 AM
Kevin White just announced his leaving IC announcement

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkY39uHPoLN/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CkY39uHPoLN/)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on October 31, 2022, 12:11:51 PM
Kevin White just announced his leaving IC announcement

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkY39uHPoLN/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CkY39uHPoLN/)

Would be cool if he wrote it on personalized stationery. Wonder if the FA opportunity still stands.
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Post by: TwisT on October 31, 2022, 12:13:25 PM
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Kevin White just announced his leaving IC announcement

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkY39uHPoLN/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CkY39uHPoLN/)
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Would be cool if he wrote it with the blunt.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: arrbee on October 31, 2022, 12:22:31 PM
Honest question, who the fuck is left to be in this video that is premiering?
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 31, 2022, 12:31:50 PM
Honest question, who the fuck is left to be in this video that is premiering?

The magicians
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Post by: arrbee on October 31, 2022, 12:34:42 PM
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Honest question, who the fuck is left to be in this video that is premiering?
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The magicians

"Thanks to everyone that came out and heard me rap, unfortunately the magicians made the projector screen disappear so we can't play the video. Anyway thanks again, have a good night and drive safe."
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Post by: manysnakes on October 31, 2022, 12:35:12 PM
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Honest question, who the fuck is left to be in this video that is premiering?
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The magicians

(https://i.imgur.com/eipugIuh.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on October 31, 2022, 12:35:47 PM
Honest question, who the fuck is left to be in this video that is premiering?

its just gonna be Mikey Alfredo singing and thats it lol
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on October 31, 2022, 12:39:09 PM
Welp, looks like Kevin White is AM again for the foreseeable future.



M. Alfredo should film a part, at this point his embarrassment is the only thing keeping his company afloat/relevant.
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Post by: arrbee on October 31, 2022, 12:42:42 PM
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Honest question, who the fuck is left to be in this video that is premiering?
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The magicians
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(https://i.imgur.com/eipugIuh.jpg)

Not gonna lie, looks like another couple of potentially racist rich white people
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on October 31, 2022, 12:46:21 PM
My god, I am such a petty bitch for reveling in this, but you can’t buy this sort of drama for silver or gold, and I fucking looove it.
This thread keeps giving & giving.
(https://i.ibb.co/xhwwLwt/The-Tyshawn-Tree.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gyQQ9QL)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: bigbevev on October 31, 2022, 12:47:52 PM
I personally know two dudes yet to be mentioned that were supposed to be in the video but now are not.

Their footy is being withheld as well.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: elbarto on October 31, 2022, 12:53:07 PM
I personally know two dudes yet to be mentioned that were supposed to be in the video but now are not.

Their footy is being withheld as well.

Don’t even post this shit if you’re not gonna spill yer beans
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on October 31, 2022, 01:12:47 PM
It's almost unbelievable how bad of a business man Mikey is. His companies last full length had an Ishod guest part to Otis Redding and 1.5 years later no one wants anything to do with his brand but somehow it's the hating privileged lil kids taking advantage of his company not his own wrongdoing
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: slapcurbsnotwomen on October 31, 2022, 01:13:40 PM
I personally know two dudes yet to be mentioned that were supposed to be in the video but now are not.

Their footy is being withheld as well.

Tommy hawk and bam margarine
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rukes on October 31, 2022, 01:16:05 PM
What if this is all a big ruse to get people talking about IC and when the video premieres Mikey and all the riders are like 'Gotcha'?

Don't think Mikey Alfred is that self aware though.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 31, 2022, 01:23:37 PM
My god, I am such a petty bitch for reveling in this, but you can’t buy this sort of drama for silver or gold, and I fucking looove it.
This thread keeps giving & giving.
(https://i.ibb.co/xhwwLwt/The-Tyshawn-Tree.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gyQQ9QL)

I'm loving it too like the nasty petty gossip i am
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SatanicPanic on October 31, 2022, 01:31:42 PM
Honest question, who the fuck is left to be in this video that is premiering?
Anyone who already filmed with him and didn’t hand him $700k
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 31, 2022, 01:38:04 PM
What if this is all a big ruse to get people talking about IC and when the video premieres Mikey and all the riders are like 'Gotcha'?

Don't think Mikey Alfred is AT ALL self aware though.


New crew GX700k
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: ungzilla on October 31, 2022, 01:43:55 PM
this magic trick making his whole team disappear is nbd pretty sure
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Post by: Sid Farkus - Bra Salesman on October 31, 2022, 01:56:10 PM
this magic trick making his whole team disappear is nbd pretty sure
Don Brown on line 1
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on October 31, 2022, 02:00:44 PM
this magic trick making his whole team disappear is nbd pretty sure

The ol' 917
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: thebacker on October 31, 2022, 02:02:22 PM
it's ironic and telling that the best thing to be associated with IC is godspeed and mikey didnt make it
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Post by: ungzilla on October 31, 2022, 02:10:01 PM
i meant to write abd but you can't edit a zinger without looking like a hapless rube  >:(
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on October 31, 2022, 02:51:58 PM
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In case you somehow missed it. Also Spike Jonze and Jonah Hill have six Oscars, between them. Probably not the best thing to go burning bridges with them.

https://youtu.be/HiVbpAK-LlU
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Hate to fact check you here but they have 1 win between them and 5 noms.   Also, they are far from pillars of the industry these days.   You could alienate them and get by if you have talent.
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My mistake. I did a quick Google search and that's what it came up, but that was the total number of nominations, not wins. I don't know anything about Hollywood, but aren't both of these people pretty big players? Spike Jonze has a new movie coming out at Christmas starring Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, which sounds like a big deal to me but I have no idea.

No his movie, he's just acting in it
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Post by: bigbevev on October 31, 2022, 02:55:31 PM
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I personally know two dudes yet to be mentioned that were supposed to be in the video but now are not.

Their footy is being withheld as well.
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Tommy hawk and

bam margarine

Gary headlock and ducky donsworth
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Post by: veritas on October 31, 2022, 02:56:50 PM
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this magic trick making his whole team disappear is nbd pretty sure
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Don Brown on line 1

Call me Nine One 700k
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rune Spliffberg on October 31, 2022, 04:32:17 PM
that's the thing about hell week, not every one brand makes it.
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Post by: DCLOVE on October 31, 2022, 04:34:35 PM
Kevin White just announced his leaving IC announcement

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkY39uHPoLN/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CkY39uHPoLN/)

After watching the gifted hater breakdown I was gonna say it’s kinda sad he’s still there but good for him. It’s a good thing tyshawn will probably put him on cause I don’t think dill would take him for FA
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Post by: honey island on October 31, 2022, 04:46:39 PM
bruh really think he ave & dill leaving the workshop
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Post by: opesorry on October 31, 2022, 05:11:02 PM
Watch out, he sold THIRTY tickets! Really raking it in!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: keepthefunkalive on October 31, 2022, 05:17:53 PM
I think now is the time for a legendary collaboration... it couldn't be any more perfect... Berra and Alfred... doritos and cariuma... Boring Alfredo: A lifestyle brand of alfredo-dust flavored skate shoes
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Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
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12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
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go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
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I respectfully disagree.
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i am a bit ashamed of myself that i could understand that entire thing without having to look anything up. I listened to Frank Ocean ONE TIME cause lil dre posted a reel with it and i was like "what in the fuck is this music"
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You don't have to post Ls like this
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I was going to say. Franks music is one of the few things right about the current music landscape.
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The man hasn't dropped an album in like 7 years and is still better than almost anything in the current zeitgeist

You must not have ever heard of Madlib
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Post by: c-dock on October 31, 2022, 05:36:48 PM
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What if this is all a big ruse to get people talking about IC and when the video premieres Mikey and all the riders are like 'Gotcha'?

Don't think Mikey Alfred is AT ALL self aware though.
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New crew GX700k

Naw Bronze700k.

Come to think of it I could see Bronze doing that themselves
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Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
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12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
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go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
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I respectfully disagree.
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i am a bit ashamed of myself that i could understand that entire thing without having to look anything up. I listened to Frank Ocean ONE TIME cause lil dre posted a reel with it and i was like "what in the fuck is this music"
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You don't have to post Ls like this
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I was going to say. Franks music is one of the few things right about the current music landscape.
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The man hasn't dropped an album in like 7 years and is still better than almost anything in the current zeitgeist
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You must not have ever heard of Madlib

Madlib has produced plenty of stuff in the last 7 years with other artists, just not as Madlib or Quas solo
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: half staff on October 31, 2022, 06:27:23 PM
can this kid even ollie? he's basically Santa Monica local "Jonah the jew" with light black features and groucho glasses. maybe worse than jonah because while they both hung around skaters and used them for movies, jonah didn't create a team and vulture as hard.
vapid SoCal rich people.
(Jonah Hill gave himself that nickname, not me)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 31, 2022, 06:35:57 PM
can this kid even ollie? he's basically Santa Monica local "Jonah the jew" with light black features and groucho glasses. maybe worse than jonah because while they both hung around skaters and used them for movies, jonah didn't create a team and vulture as hard.
vapid SoCal rich people.
(Jonah Hill gave himself that nickname, not me)

Look, I personally can’t hate on Jonah bc I can understand that you can love something without being any good at it (Mid90s is his vision of how he wished his youth was)  He became skateboarding adjacent in the last decade because all sponsored skaters are starfuckers at heart and with will embrace any celebrity that will tag them on IG on a skate sesh
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rawr1922 on October 31, 2022, 08:25:00 PM
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My god, I am such a petty bitch for reveling in this, but you can’t buy this sort of drama for silver or gold, and I fucking looove it.
This thread keeps giving & giving.
(https://i.ibb.co/xhwwLwt/The-Tyshawn-Tree.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gyQQ9QL)
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I'm loving it too like the nasty petty gossip i am
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: skate_or_dingus on October 31, 2022, 10:14:13 PM
I think now is the time for a legendary collaboration... it couldn't be any more perfect... Berra and Alfred... doritos and cariuma... Boring Alfredo: A lifestyle brand of alfredo-dust flavored skate shoes

 Don't breathe this.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: chillclinton87 on November 01, 2022, 02:05:59 AM
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I personally know two dudes yet to be mentioned that were supposed to be in the video but now are not.

Their footy is being withheld as well.
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Don’t even post this shit if you’re not gonna spill yer beans

if i get this correct all signs point to greg lutzka being one of two said people
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 01, 2022, 07:54:27 AM
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can this kid even ollie? he's basically Santa Monica local "Jonah the jew" with light black features and groucho glasses. maybe worse than jonah because while they both hung around skaters and used them for movies, jonah didn't create a team and vulture as hard.
vapid SoCal rich people.
(Jonah Hill gave himself that nickname, not me)
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Look, I personally can’t hate on Jonah bc I can understand that you can love something without being any good at it (Mid90s is his vision of how he wished his youth was)  He became skateboarding adjacent in the last decade because all sponsored skaters are starfuckers at heart and with will embrace any celebrity that will tag them on IG on a skate sesh

Jonah at least seems like it's something he's always enjoyed and it comes off as earnest. Earnest is a word i would never apply to Alfredo
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Post by: Frontside Slappy on November 01, 2022, 08:15:35 AM
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(https://i.imgur.com/8hyrEB4.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Punished Skateboards on November 01, 2022, 08:27:00 AM
Excellent interview https://www.frannieandali.com/home/2019/2/25/mikey-alfred

MIKEY ALFRED: So here's something I would say to people, because people always bring that up, the Robert Evans thing or the Tyler thing or whatever. If I give a 15-year-old to the opportunity to meet Obama – you're going to sit in the room with Obama 20 times – but if you have nothing to offer Obama, it means nothing. You'll sit in the room with him. You guys'll have your conversation, and then you'll leave. Now if I put you in the room with Obama, and you have some type of plan, and you have some type of thing you want to get out of him, then that can help you.

MIKEY ALFRED: So I have a cousin, Evan Alfred. We have the same last name. He's for real my cousin. He killed two people, and he's in prison right now for 90 years. Did that when he was like 15. I speak to him regularly, write letters, talk to him on the phone. And I'm not scared of him.
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Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 01, 2022, 08:40:40 AM
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What if this is all a big ruse to get people talking about IC and when the video premieres Mikey and all the riders are like 'Gotcha'?

Don't think Mikey Alfred is AT ALL self aware though.
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New crew GX700k
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Naw Bronze700k.

Come to think of it I could see Bronze doing that themselves


Would cop for sure
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on November 01, 2022, 08:48:51 AM
The Word privilege should never leave this man's lips unless he is saying "I am one of the most privileged people to ever live"



MIKEY ALFRED: Here's a perfect example of that. So I had a neighbor. Her name is Paula Madison. Paula's incredible woman. She is older, from Harlem, used to run Diversity In Journalism at NBC. So she's extremely wealthy, extremely connected. And when I was 16, I told her, "I love Ralph Lauren. That's my favorite brand."

She says, "Oh really? You love Ralph Lauren?" She says, "Do you know who Laura Manning is?" I said, "Yeah, of course. She's the vice president." She's like, "I'll call her right now." So she called her on the phone right in front of me. She said, "I have this kid. His name is Mikey Alfred. He loves Ralph Lauren. He wants to come to New York and meet you." She said, "Tell him to come out on Friday." It was Monday. So I was like, "OK." I bought a flight. I flew to New York.

I get to the Ralph Lauren building. You go up in the elevator. It opens. It's all wood panelling. There's this huge Ralph Lauren bronze statue in the middle of the floor.

FRANNIE: A statue of Ralph Lauren.

MIKEY ALFRED: No, no, no. Of the polo horse.

FRANNIE: OK. Just wanted to clarify.

MIKEY ALFRED: And you walk past it. You get to this little check-in desk. You tell them your name. They give you a sticker that I still have to this day, says your name with Ralph Lauren under it. Then you walk into this kind of palace. You're in New York. In the building though, they maybe have six or seven floors. You can see all six or seven floors from the first floor of that building. So I look up, and it's just huge oil paintings, huge bookshelves. There's people dusting mirrors, and you know, walking around serving water to people waiting in the lobby. So I'm sitting down. I'm waiting. I'm thinking, "Wow. I got here so quickly and so easily."

And I walk into the meeting. I sit with Laura Manning, and I start talking to her, and I'm telling her how big of a fan I am and all this stuff. And she said, "So what do you want to do with me? Why'd you want to meet?" And I was like, "I don't know. I just wanted to kind of learn stuff from you." And she was like, "Cool." And I walked out and I felt so stupid. And I was like, "Why didn't I walk in with a plan? Why didn't I have that thing to get out of it?" And I never talked to Laura Manning again, and we never worked on anything. And that was the time that taught me: don't be that person. Don't be that person who focuses on connection. Focus on what you're doing, and the right connection will come
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Post by: Allen. on November 01, 2022, 08:51:05 AM
That whole polo story read like the transcript to those Old Spice commercials.

I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Fartknocker415 on November 01, 2022, 08:53:50 AM
How embarrasing to imply that meeting somebody is worthless unless u have a plan to somehow use them to get somewhere
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 01, 2022, 08:56:25 AM
He saved his visitors pass sticker
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Post by: ungzilla on November 01, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
i like horsies too
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Post by: sharkin on November 01, 2022, 09:03:58 AM
Sounds like a pretty typical LAlien takes a field trip to NYC story

and the moral of that story is: Don't meet your heroes until you have a plan to excise wealth and opportunity from them.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 01, 2022, 09:58:37 AM
What an INSANE piece of "advice" that could only come from an insanely privileged person's perspective.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on November 01, 2022, 10:19:21 AM
can’t wait to see what antics mikey brings to slap today
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on November 01, 2022, 10:19:32 AM
I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.

I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: augustmoon on November 01, 2022, 10:25:58 AM
What an INSANE piece of "advice" that could only come from an insanely privileged person's perspective.

Seriously.  Keeps falling face first into opportunity like a reverse Mr Bean and still finds a way to blow it. 

I sure we’re a couple months away from him announcing that he has outgrown skateboarding and will be moving on to become some kind of fashion consultant or some other made-up California job.  I doubt his little premier will still happen
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pbj on November 01, 2022, 11:02:27 AM
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Kevin White just announced his leaving IC announcement

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkY39uHPoLN/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CkY39uHPoLN/)
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After watching the gifted hater breakdown I was gonna say it’s kinda sad he’s still there but good for him. It’s a good thing tyshawn will probably put him on cause I don’t think dill would take him for FA

definitely a safe bet that he gets on Tyshawn's brand
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Post by: offkilter on November 01, 2022, 11:03:26 AM
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Supplying drugs to a minor:

Supply drugs to a minor: The maximum penalty is a a $462,000 fine or 24 years ‘imprisonment or both. If the prohibited drug is cannabis, then the maximum term of imprisonment is 18 years.

extortion:
making unfounded threats in order to obtain an unfair business advantage is also a form of extortion.
Extortion is a felony offense that is punishable by up to three years in prison. If the defendant has made extortion demands but the victim never complied or consented, he or she can be charged with attempted extortion. Attempted extortion is a "wobbler" offense that can be filed as either a felony or a misdemeanor.

LA county child protective services:
https://ocp.lacounty.gov/report-child-abuse-to-dcfs

https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-518-pc-extortion.html
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12 much?
It's some petty dorky skate drama and your post is on some real informant ass behavior. 
Ion care how kooky or outta pocket this episode is panning out...
This is a skate forum stop acting like a fed
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go back to instagram. we dont speak moron here
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I respectfully disagree.
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i am a bit ashamed of myself that i could understand that entire thing without having to look anything up. I listened to Frank Ocean ONE TIME cause lil dre posted a reel with it and i was like "what in the fuck is this music"
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You don't have to post Ls like this
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I was going to say. Franks music is one of the few things right about the current music landscape.
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The man hasn't dropped an album in like 7 years and is still better than almost anything in the current zeitgeist
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You must not have ever heard of Madlib
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Madlib has produced plenty of stuff in the last 7 years with other artists, just not as Madlib or Quas solo

You're in for a treat:

http://youtu.be/eyRw2zqesSk

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rawbertson. on November 01, 2022, 11:07:18 AM
cant believe that is actaully real and people even talk like that
 like you were really that into it but you had absolutely nothing to say to the person?  ;D
also, i dont think she actually said "cool"  ;D probably said "gtfo"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 01, 2022, 11:21:40 AM
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Seriously.  Keeps falling face first into opportunity like a reverse Mr Bean and still finds a way to blow it. 

I sure we’re a couple months away from him announcing that he has outgrown skateboarding and will be moving on to become some kind of fashion consultant or some other made-up California job.  I doubt his little premier will still happen

Cariuma Brand Manager
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on November 01, 2022, 11:24:34 AM
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What an INSANE piece of "advice" that could only come from an insanely privileged person's perspective.
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I sure we’re a couple months away from him announcing that he has outgrown skateboarding and will be moving on to become some kind of fashion consultant or some other made-up California job.

There are a lot of makework jobs out there for Hollywood failsons, so this sounds about right.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: skatebruh on November 01, 2022, 11:28:06 AM
I think now is the time for a legendary collaboration... it couldn't be any more perfect... Berra and Alfred... doritos and cariuma... Boring Alfredo: A lifestyle brand of alfredo-dust flavored skate shoes
Hype

https://youtu.be/I-1lao5UUac
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on November 01, 2022, 12:53:38 PM
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I think now is the time for a legendary collaboration... it couldn't be any more perfect... Berra and Alfred... doritos and cariuma... Boring Alfredo: A lifestyle brand of alfredo-dust flavored skate shoes
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 Don't breathe this.

will IC decks blend???
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on November 01, 2022, 12:57:33 PM
How embarrasing to imply that meeting somebody is worthless unless u have a plan to somehow use them to get somewhere

I pointed this out way earlier in the thread and I'm glad you picked up on it too. He says the same shit in his Jenkem piece and it's him being disingenuous and vampire-y under the guise of networking. The sad thing is he thinks he's saying something deep (like everything else he says.)
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Post by: SneakySecrets on November 01, 2022, 01:37:22 PM
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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.
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I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.

I got Blood Meridian the other day but haven’t started reading it yet.  Heard it’s really good though.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 01, 2022, 01:44:55 PM
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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.
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I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.
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I got Blood Meridian the other day but haven’t started reading it yet.  Heard it’s really good though.
It's great, brutal, but great.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 01, 2022, 01:48:48 PM
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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.
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I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.

Bret Easton ellis
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Post by: darkthrone on November 01, 2022, 01:55:01 PM
I love that this thread evolved into a book club.
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Post by: Bryanferry on November 01, 2022, 02:06:52 PM
I recommend Piranesi by susanna Clark. A great journey through the vestibules of the mind.
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Post by: Kanteen Russell on November 01, 2022, 02:08:42 PM
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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.
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I got Blood Meridian the other day but haven’t started reading it yet.  Heard it’s really good though.
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It's great, brutal, but great.

You want great and brutal, lad?

Try HOGG, by Samuel Delaney.

Thank me later on my insta.
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 01, 2022, 02:17:42 PM
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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.
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I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.
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I got Blood Meridian the other day but haven’t started reading it yet.  Heard it’s really good though.
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It's great, brutal, but great.
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You want great and brutal, lad?

Try HOGG, by Samuel Delaney.

Thank me later on my insta.

That is one of your first posts.  You need to be placed on a watchlist
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on November 01, 2022, 02:21:38 PM
I think now is the time for a legendary collaboration... it couldn't be any more perfect... Berra and Alfred... doritos and cariuma... Boring Alfredo: A lifestyle brand of alfredo-dust flavored skate shoes

(https://i.imgur.com/jwf0qQA.png)

Mikey Alfritos X Berriuma
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 01, 2022, 02:29:29 PM
Well Jenkem got interviews (guarantee someone will make a dedicated post for this)

https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/ (https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rickdizzo on November 01, 2022, 02:36:55 PM
Well Jenkem got interviews (guarantee someone will make a dedicated post for this)

https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/ (https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/)

jenkem gave mikey the opportunity to set the record straight but he still wanted to come off as a arrogant dickweed
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 01, 2022, 02:47:27 PM
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Mikey Alfritos X Berriuma

Incredible. 

Would be amazing if this happened, just to have Steve and Mikey self-immolating together in one instagram post’s comment section.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 01, 2022, 02:57:32 PM
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Well Jenkem got interviews (guarantee someone will make a dedicated post for this)

https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/ (https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/)
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jenkem gave mikey the opportunity to set the record straight but he still wanted to come off as a arrogant dickweed

A little annoyed they didn’t give any pushback on the “bucket of money” story.   It’s easy enough to parse that someone gave him a bunch of money and he pretends he earned it through sales, but Id like him to struggle a little bit with so,e cross examination
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rukes on November 01, 2022, 03:01:07 PM
Those kids would be better with their footage in the video now, because with all this attention, there will potentially be a lot of eyes on it. It's free promo for them.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TwisT on November 01, 2022, 03:02:02 PM
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Well Jenkem got interviews (guarantee someone will make a dedicated post for this)

https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/ (https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/)
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jenkem gave mikey the opportunity to set the record straight but he still wanted to come off as a arrogant dickweed

Every thing Mikey said was undercut by his own actions

I do think Mikey had the right idea. The kids could have rode out the vlog backlash and been fine. Skating speaks for it self. Old IC fans would move on and a new wave of kids would have been in to it(probably). It’s happened before. That was undercut by his own actions of posting bullshit on the IC page.

He didn’t follow his own advise of ignoring the hate. He’s not to first dude to hold footage hostage, it sucks but it happens. Logan did ask for his clips the wrong way and will learn from this. Mikey however went about doing it the wrong way and now it’s biting him in the ass.

I feel the bad for Dalton

Also he said illegal civ ain’t selling but I don’t see any product anywhere. Not of zumiez, not on paradeworld, but you got hundreds of boards ready to be sanded? Why hasn’t zumiez restocked?
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Post by: manysnakes on November 01, 2022, 03:02:07 PM
Well Jenkem got interviews (guarantee someone will make a dedicated post for this)

https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/ (https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/)

The subtext as I read it is that he Mikey is flat fucking broke. Probably spent whatever savings or inheritance he had (notice how he dodges the question of where the money came from) and has no new revenue streams.
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Post by: my english is bad on November 01, 2022, 03:02:27 PM
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 01, 2022, 03:04:48 PM
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Jenkem: What’s going on with Logan’s footage? Is it going to come out in the video?
Mikey: Bro, it’s not even that sick. It’s not the sickest footage. The way I feel, I’m helping these kids by not using it. They’ll look back one day, like, “Man, Mikey was right. I’m glad I didn’t put out some weak ass shit.”
From where I sit, Logan and Benecio [Montalvo] are privileged cry babies who can’t handle negative comments tryna unfairly make money off a black man
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This shit is wild. Why the fuck would anyone wanna ride for your company after this? Like a week ago you were hyping up this video like crazy and now it's all trash and you're doing them a favor? You're not Dana White trashing people who leave the company because you're the only game in town, you're at best, a marginal company that sounds like it was propped up by an angel investment from who knows where. You were already viewed like a kook who's trying to profit off our culture and this interview is gonna do nothing to dissuade people of that notion.
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Post by: manysnakes on November 01, 2022, 03:06:29 PM
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Mikey: Bro, it’s not even that sick. It’s not the sickest footage. The way I feel, I’m helping these kids by not using it. They’ll look back one day, like, “Man, Mikey was right. I’m glad I didn’t put out some weak ass shit.”
From where I sit, Logan and Benecio [Montalvo] are privileged cry babies who can’t handle negative comments tryna unfairly make money off a black man
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This shit is wild. Why the fuck would anyone wanna ride for your company after this? Like a week ago you were hyping up this video like crazy and now it's all trash and you're doing them a favor? You're not Dana White trashing people who leave the company because you're the only game in town, you're at best, a marginal company that sounds like it was propped up by an angel investment from who knows where. You were already viewed like a kook who's trying to profit off our culture and this interview is gonna do nothing to dissuade people of that notion.

You know we've reached the logical end of this line of thinking when Mikey, the employer, is deriding his employees for "unfairly make money off a black man" (getting paid for what they produce).
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Post by: grassblade on November 01, 2022, 03:06:35 PM
kevin white trying to drag gifted hater over any of this,
while still simping for mikey alfred is next level kook shit
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Post by: goodatmeth on November 01, 2022, 03:11:04 PM
kevin white trying to drag gifted hater over any of this,
while still simping for mikey alfred is next level kook shit
I guess it makes sense if Kevin knows that Mikey is going through some bad mental struggles. Bad situation for everybody
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Post by: DaleSr on November 01, 2022, 03:11:44 PM
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Mikey: Bro, it’s not even that sick. It’s not the sickest footage. The way I feel, I’m helping these kids by not using it. They’ll look back one day, like, “Man, Mikey was right. I’m glad I didn’t put out some weak ass shit.”
From where I sit, Logan and Benecio [Montalvo] are privileged cry babies who can’t handle negative comments tryna unfairly make money off a black man
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This shit is wild. Why the fuck would anyone wanna ride for your company after this? Like a week ago you were hyping up this video like crazy and now it's all trash and you're doing them a favor? You're not Dana White trashing people who leave the company because you're the only game in town, you're at best, a marginal company that sounds like it was propped up by an angel investment from who knows where. You were already viewed like a kook who's trying to profit off our culture and this interview is gonna do nothing to dissuade people of that notion.
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You know we've reached the logical end of this line of thinking when Mikey, the employer, is deriding his employees for "unfairly make money off a black man" (getting paid for what they produce).

I mean it really lays bare his narcissism. He doesn't get that he's embarrassing himself, people are just pointing it out
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Post by: versacekid420 on November 01, 2022, 03:15:05 PM
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I guess it makes sense if Kevin knows that Mikey is going through some bad mental struggles. Bad situation for everybody
i mean yeah multiple times it was said it wasn’t the gifted hater video, it was the negative comments on the IC video. GH obviously put it into a brighter light, but the initial head scratcher was the comments on Mikey’s video that they didn’t even know he was going to put out. 
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Post by: DaleSr on November 01, 2022, 03:16:28 PM
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I guess it makes sense if Kevin knows that Mikey is going through some bad mental struggles. Bad situation for everybody

I can understand his position as well. Your homie is fucking up big time but you also know he's struggling, but you don't want your money to get fucked up because your boy can't log off
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Post by: TwisT on November 01, 2022, 03:16:33 PM
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I guess it makes sense if Kevin knows that Mikey is going through some bad mental struggles. Bad situation for everybody

I’m not gonna throw my homie under the bridge for 2 weeks of shit posting or internet beefing with children. I’m shit on him in person but not to a magazine.

I respect how he handled it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rickdizzo on November 01, 2022, 03:17:46 PM
kevin white trying to drag gifted hater over any of this,
while still simping for mikey alfred is next level kook shit

i can see what he’s getting with saying that GH is on the outside looking in for his youtube audience, but then saying giving the kids weed was fine actually i could see the kook
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mindfuzz on November 01, 2022, 03:18:33 PM
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I’m paying out $60,000 on the payroll. Project managers, skaters, etc.

This is the weirdest part of all of this…he’s got a staff of project managers?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: chris. on November 01, 2022, 03:19:34 PM
I recommend Piranesi by susanna Clark. A great journey through the vestibules of the mind.

Damn. I read about this book around the time it came out and I really wanted to read it but then totally forgot everything about it. All attempts to remember anything about it or try to recognize the title/cover in a book store were fruitless. Very stoked on this post.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 01, 2022, 03:22:23 PM
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kevin white trying to drag gifted hater over any of this,
while still simping for mikey alfred is next level kook shit
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I guess it makes sense if Kevin knows that Mikey is going through some bad mental struggles. Bad situation for everybody

Is being an egomaniac grasping at straws a mental struggle?   

Dude got a bunch of money, thought he was gods gift to skateboarding and could burn through that money paying his friends high salaries and that his business savvy would keep the money train rolling and they would only get richer.   When that didn’t happen, he expected everyone he was paying salaries to to start living off royalties because he wasn’t making any money.   They understandably didn’t want to do that, left, and he probably sees them as a bunch of ingrates. 

So he tries to start all over again with kids that he assume won’t expect anything and that he can manipulate to his will like some kind of third tier Malcolm MacLaren, only they fucking hate what they see and turn on him because they realize they’ll be kooked by association and he has a hissy fit because everyone is leaving him again, but again takes zero percent of the responsibility in that because his narcissism won’t allow him to think he did anything wrong. 
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Fongstarr. on November 01, 2022, 03:24:00 PM
I watch Gifted Hater here and there but has no idea his videos make that much of an impact to the point that it’s be referenced that much on this article.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on November 01, 2022, 03:26:32 PM
I watch Gifted Hater here and there but has no idea his videos make that much of an impact to the point that it’s be referenced that much on this article.

His most recent Illegal Civ video seems to have pushed him into another tier of skateboarding and YouTube. It got like 100k views in a few days, and if you look (I've been going through his old videos at work this week), most of his older stuff has like 20-50k views after a year or two.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: grassblade on November 01, 2022, 03:28:04 PM
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kevin white trying to drag gifted hater over any of this,
while still simping for mikey alfred is next level kook shit
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I guess it makes sense if Kevin knows that Mikey is going through some bad mental struggles. Bad situation for everybody

mikey alfred has been a kook since, literal day one.
it has been YEARS of him being an insufferable weirdo

you reap what you sow.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 01, 2022, 03:33:37 PM
I watch Gifted Hater here and there but has no idea his videos make that much of an impact to the point that it’s be referenced that much on this article.

Honestly crazy that they reference him that much but then don't interview him
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: half staff on November 01, 2022, 03:36:13 PM
i read a tesco vee interview in an old thrasher and he aptly described henry rollins as 'an insufferable windbag who can't realize how insufferable he is. and the only thing that will make him aware is death.'
mikey alfred makes henry rollins look like the tooth fairy.
gifted hater, with great gifts comes great responsiblity. may he continue to use his powers for good.

(edit) it might have been 'bloated windbag'
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TwisT on November 01, 2022, 03:38:03 PM
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I watch Gifted Hater here and there but has no idea his videos make that much of an impact to the point that it’s be referenced that much on this article.
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His most recent Illegal Civ video seems to have pushed him into another tier of skateboarding and YouTube. It got like 100k views in a few days, and if you look (I've been going through his old videos at work this week), most of his older stuff has like 20-50k views after a year or two.

there are other skate board “drama” or news channels that get similar view counts in 50k range, but don’t get brought up on slap or other skateboard outlets, but they show up in recommend panel when watching GH. I wouldn’t even watch Joah if it weren’t for slap.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: yourbreakfsat on November 01, 2022, 03:43:14 PM
Bro, it’s not even that sick. It’s not the sickest footage. The way I feel, I’m helping these kids by not using it. They’ll look back one day, like, “Man, Mikey was right. I’m glad I didn’t put out some weak ass shit.”

(https://media.tenor.com/nyIWjHeM-GAAAAAS/smadging-speech-bubble-speech-bubble.gif)
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: planman on November 01, 2022, 03:46:20 PM
Holy shit this man has fully gone off the deep end
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rockin Robbin on November 01, 2022, 03:47:30 PM
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kevin white trying to drag gifted hater over any of this,
while still simping for mikey alfred is next level kook shit
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I guess it makes sense if Kevin knows that Mikey is going through some bad mental struggles. Bad situation for everybody
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I’m not gonna throw my homie under the bridge

https://youtu.be/3sYSt26kh6Y (https://youtu.be/3sYSt26kh6Y)
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: Style Police on November 01, 2022, 03:48:18 PM
Common Narcissist Characteristics

Inflated Ego.
Lack of Empathy.
Need for Attention.
Repressed Insecurities.
Few Boundaries.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: goodatmeth on November 01, 2022, 03:51:14 PM
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I watch Gifted Hater here and there but has no idea his videos make that much of an impact to the point that it’s be referenced that much on this article.
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Honestly crazy that they reference him that much but then don't interview him

I can imagine him not wanting to add more fuel to the fire and just stay out of it.
But Mikey came in with the jet fuel
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on November 01, 2022, 03:56:44 PM
I'm in tears about his one quote regarding his unpaid young child skate team, this shit is almost satire.

"I have zero sympathy for these kids. They are on straight sucka shit letting these comments stop them from finishing a street part."

Post your fucking street part Mikey.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on November 01, 2022, 04:02:50 PM
no comment to calling a jewish kid a nazi huh. all the other kids seem pretty level headed for the most part. mikey’s interview was just fuckin baffling
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 01, 2022, 04:04:52 PM
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I watch Gifted Hater here and there but has no idea his videos make that much of an impact to the point that it’s be referenced that much on this article.
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Honestly crazy that they reference him that much but then don't interview him

Well he’s not directly involved with IC like everyone else is.  He doesn’t have any insight to what’s going on.   All you could really ask him if he’s received any spicy DMs
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rubbrick on November 01, 2022, 04:11:16 PM
Mikey eating burgers, AGAIN
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 01, 2022, 04:19:11 PM
no comment to calling a jewish kid a nazi huh. all the other kids seem pretty level headed for the most part. mikey’s interview was just fuckin baffling
Yeah like how about some follow ups to some of those absolute non-answers. I didn’t think an article could make him look any worse than he already did but here we are.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 01, 2022, 04:23:58 PM
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I watch Gifted Hater here and there but has no idea his videos make that much of an impact to the point that it’s be referenced that much on this article.
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Honestly crazy that they reference him that much but then don't interview him
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Well he’s not directly involved with IC like everyone else is.  He doesn’t have any insight to what’s going on.   All you could really ask him if he’s received any spicy DMs

Joah how does it feel to 360 no scope Carlton
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: SatanicPanic on November 01, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
This saga is dragging on like it’s Battle at the Berrics
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HORSES on November 01, 2022, 04:33:54 PM
Does Gifted Hater back off in the same way he backed of Nak due to the mental health aspect? Can't help but think he has a target on his back.
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: Makaveli on November 01, 2022, 04:37:42 PM
Loved this, everyone’s take was compelling. The gossip is juicy, as they say.

It’s crazy how concrete Gifted Hater’s influence has become. First he wrecked George Poulos into near oblivion. Now he’s got IC on the brink of total collapse. Who’s next?
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: WarmUpZone on November 01, 2022, 04:39:08 PM
Mikey Alfred doubling down!

This is great investigating by Jenkem and kudos for getting it out there so quickly. Reminds me of when they dug deep on the final disastrous season of OIAM.

Also, 'Lando Magik' is a hilarious and awesome name. Especially if it is his real name.
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: dr.prestige on November 01, 2022, 04:41:39 PM
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What’s going on with Logan’s footage? Is it going to come out in the video?
Bro, it’s not even that sick. It’s not the sickest footage. The way I feel, I’m helping these kids by not using it. They’ll look back one day, like, “Man, Mikey was right. I’m glad I didn’t put out some weak ass shit.”

I figured he would want to use this interview as an opportunity to save face but he came off as an even bigger asshole lol
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: hotdogsweatpants on November 01, 2022, 04:42:05 PM
Jenkem: What do you think about Logan making the 700k merch?

Alfred: It feels like colonialism in 2022.


It’s crazy how concrete Gifted Hater’s influence has become. First he wrecked George Poulos into near oblivion. Now he’s got IC on the brink of total collapse. Who’s next?

So funny lol.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 01, 2022, 04:46:08 PM
Does Gifted Hater back off in the same way he backed of Nak due to the mental health aspect? Can't help but think he has a target on his back.

I think the difference is Joa was afraid of Nak, he doesn’t seem worried about retaliation from Mikey at all
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 01, 2022, 04:46:56 PM
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You put up a post about some of your former riders being racist. Do you really think that or is that more of you just being like, “Fuck these kids?”
That’s a funny way to phrase the question.
Just look at their actions, if you’re coming out skating everyday, you see some negative comments, you take a chance to get some clout out of it, and that’s it. That’s what happened.

Clout sharking doesn't equal racism you loser

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What do you think about Logan making the 700k merch?
Well, that was the reason I posted what I posted. It’s one thing with Instagram comments, like OK, but it’s another thing to start profiting off of me and what I’m doing. It doesn’t feel good. It feels like colonialism in 2022. Embarrass the n**** and let’s sell tickets to the show. It’s kinda like that. It’s behaviors you probably don’t even know you have.

Incredible that the man trying to profit off some kids for the low low price of some burgers and mids has the audacity to make this claim. Also the only person literally selling tickets is you mikey
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 01, 2022, 04:48:14 PM
Well Jenkem got interviews (guarantee someone will make a dedicated post for this)

https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/ (https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/11/01/what-the-hell-is-going-with-illegal-civ/)

You called it
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 01, 2022, 04:49:45 PM
When a pre-existing 27 page Mikey Alfred thread isnt enough to contain the excitement…
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: SatanicPanic on November 01, 2022, 04:49:55 PM
Jenkem: What do you think about Logan making the 700k merch?

Alfred: It feels like colonialism in 2022.


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So funny lol.
What’s the issue with George Poulos? (Asking seriously, not familiar)
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: hotdogsweatpants on November 01, 2022, 04:53:57 PM
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It’s crazy how concrete Gifted Hater’s influence has become. First he wrecked George Poulos into near oblivion. Now he’s got IC on the brink of total collapse. Who’s next?
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So funny lol.
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What’s the issue with George Poulos? (Asking seriously, not familiar)

I was more laughing at Makaveli's turn of phrase here, but this is the main video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a1RZRdirqY

It's worth noting that this is GH's most viewed video, and George P has barely posted since his response (ironically George P's most viewed video in years). George P seems to be attempting to transition to some kind of stoic philosopher.

In all honesty though, GH has gone in much harder on people like John Hill, but those videos are on his Patreon.
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: dr.prestige on November 01, 2022, 04:55:43 PM
When a pre-existing 27 page Mikey Alfred thread isnt enough to contain the excitement…

By 27 page Mikey Alfred thread I think you mean the 27 page Cast Iron Pan thread
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: 144p on November 01, 2022, 05:02:40 PM
The funniest part of all of this is before this drama it the new video would probably ge some views, but now we are all gonna tune in and see what he does next.
Pure genius Mikey.
Bravo.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: left knee cap on November 01, 2022, 05:02:42 PM
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Does Gifted Hater back off in the same way he backed of Nak due to the mental health aspect? Can't help but think he has a target on his back.
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I think the difference is Joa was afraid of Nak, he doesn’t seem worried about retaliation from Mikey at all

i am also certain their beef has been squashed as well
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fakie nollie on November 01, 2022, 05:13:25 PM
I’m down to just dust our hands of this sitch and watch tyshawns part
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Fongstarr. on November 01, 2022, 05:25:16 PM
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I watch Gifted Hater here and there but has no idea his videos make that much of an impact to the point that it’s be referenced that much on this article.
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His most recent Illegal Civ video seems to have pushed him into another tier of skateboarding and YouTube. It got like 100k views in a few days, and if you look (I've been going through his old videos at work this week), most of his older stuff has like 20-50k views after a year or two.

I had to look and it's crazy with only 65K in subscribers that he gets more views on his videos than the Nine Club does. I just looked and the last videos to hit over a 100K views on the Nine Club was Sheckler, Mark Normand (comedian), Jason Lee and Chris Chann. I assume it got over that mark cause of them and not The Nine Club. So Gifted Hater is doing something right. I just had no idea.
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 01, 2022, 05:54:10 PM
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What’s going on with Logan’s footage? Is it going to come out in the video?
Bro, it’s not even that sick. It’s not the sickest footage. The way I feel, I’m helping these kids by not using it. They’ll look back one day, like, “Man, Mikey was right. I’m glad I didn’t put out some weak ass shit.”
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I figured he would want to use this interview as an opportunity to save face but he came off as an even bigger asshole lol

Dude forreal. Also completely glossed over the fact that he called a Jewish kid a Nazi.. mf can't own up to any of his shit.
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: Lou Strux on November 01, 2022, 06:04:58 PM
How many cast iron cookware threads does UWTB actually need?
Only time will tell… stay tuned!
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: versacekid420 on November 01, 2022, 06:07:22 PM
How many cast iron cookware threads does UWTB actually need?
Only time will tell… stay tuned!
just used mine tonight
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on November 01, 2022, 06:09:41 PM
Next merch drop - Slap Magazine Useful Iron Pan
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: work_lurker on November 01, 2022, 06:11:54 PM
A main takeaway from this whole debacle is Jonah Hill is now acceptable to like in skateboarding, because Michaelangelo Alfredo has replaced his role of "Hollywood kook".
Where do we stand on Doritos? Hopefully Cool Ranch is an exception. I don't want to be enjoying my bag of triangles at the skatepark and have a bunch of 13 year-olds clown on me for it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: R3dBullRox420 on November 01, 2022, 06:19:52 PM
Slap is like a canary in the mine for skate culture.

Everybody hate Mikey now.

Yes this is for sure the first time ppl have reacted to his kooky tendencies
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on November 01, 2022, 06:21:38 PM
A main takeaway from this whole debacle is Jonah Hill is now acceptable to like in skateboarding, because Michaelangelo Alfredo has replaced his role of "Hollywood kook".
Where do we stand on Doritos? Hopefully Cool Ranch is an exception. I don't want to be enjoying my bag of triangles at the skatepark and have a bunch of 13 year-olds clown on me for it.
you can never be ashamed of cool ranch doritos no matter who endorses it
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: alex on November 01, 2022, 06:58:02 PM
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What’s going on with Logan’s footage? Is it going to come out in the video?
Bro, it’s not even that sick. It’s not the sickest footage. The way I feel, I’m helping these kids by not using it. They’ll look back one day, like, “Man, Mikey was right. I’m glad I didn’t put out some weak ass shit.”
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I figured he would want to use this interview as an opportunity to save face but he came off as an even bigger asshole lol
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Dude forreal. Also completely glossed over the fact that he called a Jewish kid a Nazi.. mf can't own up to any of his shit.

Pretty smart move calling the footage in your video “not even that sick” 
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on November 01, 2022, 10:25:41 PM
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I watch Gifted Hater here and there but has no idea his videos make that much of an impact to the point that it’s be referenced that much on this article.
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His most recent Illegal Civ video seems to have pushed him into another tier of skateboarding and YouTube. It got like 100k views in a few days, and if you look (I've been going through his old videos at work this week), most of his older stuff has like 20-50k views after a year or two.
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I had to look and it's crazy with only 65K in subscribers that he gets more views on his videos than the Nine Club does. I just looked and the last videos to hit over a 100K views on the Nine Club was Sheckler, Mark Normand (comedian), Jason Lee and Chris Chann. I assume it got over that mark cause of them and not The Nine Club. So Gifted Hater is doing something right. I just had no idea.


The amount of bullshit the Nine Club have to do like dumb clip videos, being nice to pros, pretending to be interested, it must piss them off when this kid pops up a webcam and chats whenever he wants & says whatever he wants and destroys them.
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: shouldn't on November 01, 2022, 10:44:57 PM
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What’s going on with Logan’s footage? Is it going to come out in the video?
Bro, it’s not even that sick. It’s not the sickest footage. The way I feel, I’m helping these kids by not using it. They’ll look back one day, like, “Man, Mikey was right. I’m glad I didn’t put out some weak ass shit.”
[close]

I figured he would want to use this interview as an opportunity to save face but he came off as an even bigger asshole lol
[close]

Dude forreal. Also completely glossed over the fact that he called a Jewish kid a Nazi.. mf can't own up to any of his shit.
[close]

Pretty smart move calling the footage in your video “not even that sick”
immediately made me wonder “why do you not want to give him his footage back then if it’s so weak? & why were you so bitter about losing his placement in the video?” dude is completely delusional. this is like charlie sheen’s meltdown all over again, saying he’s “winning” or is a “rockstar from mars” in the midst of an insane drug addiction… only even more delusional & with crack cocaine/pornstars being replaced with weed, hamburgers and teenagers. dude is out of his mind.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Jeff Bezos The Antichrist on November 01, 2022, 11:40:15 PM
Mans went to fat burger and ordered a hotdog 💀
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 02, 2022, 03:46:57 AM
Do you think there was any merit to anything Gifted Hater said in his critique video?
I didn’t watch his video.

Over/under on how many times he’s really watched it, seething at his phone screen?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rune Spliffberg on November 02, 2022, 05:51:37 AM
Do you think there was any merit to anything Gifted Hater said in his critique video?
I didn’t watch his video.

Over/under on how many times he’s really watched it, seething at his phone screen?

i picture alfredo in a dark room sitting alone in a director's chair, having converted GH's video to film reels, watching it on the projector over and over and over slowly driving him into madness.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on November 02, 2022, 06:49:26 AM
Ok since we’re posting up highlights from the interview, this opening line is incredible:

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How are you doing?
I appreciate that.

I can’t imagine a more sociopathic response.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 02, 2022, 06:49:37 AM
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Do you think there was any merit to anything Gifted Hater said in his critique video?
I didn’t watch his video.

Over/under on how many times he’s really watched it, seething at his phone screen?
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i picture alfredo in a dark room sitting alone in a director's chair, having converted GH's video to film reels, watching it on the projector over and over and over slowly driving him into madness.

More like George C Scott in Hardcore
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 02, 2022, 06:57:39 AM
Ok since we’re posting up highlights from the interview, this opening line is incredible:

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How are you doing?
I appreciate that.
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I can’t imagine a more sociopathic response.

Dude is seriously detached from reality.
Title: Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ILLEGAL CIV?
Post by: veritas on November 02, 2022, 08:00:07 AM
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What’s going on with Logan’s footage? Is it going to come out in the video?
Bro, it’s not even that sick. It’s not the sickest footage. The way I feel, I’m helping these kids by not using it. They’ll look back one day, like, “Man, Mikey was right. I’m glad I didn’t put out some weak ass shit.”
[close]

I figured he would want to use this interview as an opportunity to save face but he came off as an even bigger asshole lol
[close]

Dude forreal. Also completely glossed over the fact that he called a Jewish kid a Nazi.. mf can't own up to any of his shit.
[close]

Pretty smart move calling the footage in your video “not even that sick”
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immediately made me wonder “why do you not want to give him his footage back then if it’s so weak? & why were you so bitter about losing his placement in the video?” dude is completely delusional. this is like charlie sheen’s meltdown all over again, saying he’s “winning” or is a “rockstar from mars” in the midst of an insane drug addiction… only even more delusional & with crack cocaine/pornstars being replaced with weed, hamburgers and teenagers. dude is out of his mind.

"Impressive, very nice. Let's see Mikey Alfred's footage."
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on November 02, 2022, 08:49:27 AM
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Ok since we’re posting up highlights from the interview, this opening line is incredible:

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How are you doing?
I appreciate that.
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I can’t imagine a more sociopathic response.
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Dude is seriously detached from reality.

Imagine living in a world where the people you surround yourself with are so shallow and self centered that people literally never ask you how you're doing, and when someone finally does, your brain short circuits and you take it as a compliment.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DCLOVE on November 02, 2022, 09:51:23 AM
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kevin white trying to drag gifted hater over any of this,
while still simping for mikey alfred is next level kook shit
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I guess it makes sense if Kevin knows that Mikey is going through some bad mental struggles. Bad situation for everybody
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I can understand his position as well. Your homie is fucking up big time but you also know he's struggling, but you don't want your money to get fucked up because your boy can't log off

I think Kevin of all people knows how indebted he is to Mikey cause without him he’d be working a grill. But he also does come off as a generally very nice and caring guy so it probably sucks to watch his friend go full loco. And kinda having to chose sides when the dudes who can pay you next are beefing with the dude who was paying you before.
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Post by: Dead to Me on November 02, 2022, 10:00:48 AM
Can Mikey seriously even kickflip? That immediately  came to mind when he was saying Logan’s clips weren’t that sick lol.
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Post by: mj23 on November 02, 2022, 10:14:44 AM
Can Mikey seriously even kickflip? That immediately  came to mind when he was saying Logan’s clips weren’t that sick lol.
Fuck a kickflip, can he even ollie? Can he ride up and down a quarter pipe without the board slipping out from under him like a cartoon banana peel?
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Post by: Lowcalcium on November 02, 2022, 10:31:00 AM
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Do you think there was any merit to anything Gifted Hater said in his critique video?
I didn’t watch his video.

Over/under on how many times he’s really watched it, seething at his phone screen?
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I immediately thought of Howard Hughes:

“In 1958, Hughes told his aides that he wanted to screen some movies at a film studio near his home. He stayed in the studio's darkened screening room for more than four months, never leaving. He ate only chocolate bars and chicken and drank only milk, and was surrounded by dozens of boxes of Kleenex that he continuously stacked and re-arranged. He wrote detailed memos to his aides giving them explicit instructions neither to look at him nor speak to him unless spoken to.

Throughout this period, Hughes sat fixated in his chair, often naked, continuously watching movies. When he finally emerged in the summer of 1958, his hygiene was terrible. He had neither bathed nor cut his hair and nails for weeks.”
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 02, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

low low price of some burgers and mids



Oh man this had me cracking the fuck up to the point where my co-worker walked over to see what I was laughing at. Keep it coming
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rickdizzo on November 02, 2022, 11:11:50 AM
"It feels like colonialism in 2022." - 28-Year-old LA nepo baby after asking for seven hundred thousand dollars from a fifteen-year-old for his skateboarding clips and then having that made into a tee.

you can't make this up folks.
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Post by: manysnakes on November 02, 2022, 11:16:11 AM
"It feels like colonialism in 2022." - 28-Year-old LA nepo baby after asking for seven hundred thousand dollars from a fifteen-year-old for his skateboarding clips and then having that made into a tee.

you can't make this up folks.

What do you mean dude it's exactly the same as King Leopold in the Congo.
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Post by: devils acrobat on November 02, 2022, 12:14:27 PM
"It feels like colonialism in 2022." - 28-Year-old LA nepo baby after asking for seven hundred thousand dollars from a fifteen-year-old for his skateboarding clips and then having that made into a tee.

you can't make this up folks.

Mikey guest board on $lave incoming
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Post by: work_lurker on November 02, 2022, 12:16:24 PM
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you can't make this up folks.
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Mikey guest board on $lave incoming

Hard Luck packages also on the way.
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Post by: IpathCats on November 02, 2022, 12:25:45 PM
"It feels like colonialism in 2022." - 28-Year-old LA nepo baby after asking for seven hundred thousand dollars from a fifteen-year-old for his skateboarding clips and then having that made into a tee.

you can't make this up folks.


What do you mean dude it's exactly the same as King Leopold in the Congo.


Mikey guest board on $lave incoming

All bangers, gnars for all.

I can't even imagine how i would feel if i was a sane person of color and heard this polo wearing, LA living, privileged ass dork saying shit like this. He's acting like extorting children and making his shitty drawings is some form of fighting oppression.

Why don't you go actually help someone Mr. Alfredo?
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Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 02, 2022, 01:01:03 PM
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What do you mean dude it's exactly the same as King Leopold in the Congo.
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All bangers, gnars for all.

I can't even imagine how i would feel if i was a sane person of color and heard this polo wearing, LA living, privileged ass dork saying shit like this. He's acting like extorting children and making his shitty drawings is some form of fighting oppression.

Why don't you go actually help someone Mr. Alfredo?


I don't think Mikey knows the actual definition of colonialism. It comes across as a buzzword that he heard being used by someone he perceives as smart.
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Post by: Lowcalcium on November 02, 2022, 01:26:18 PM
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you can't make this up folks.
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What do you mean dude it's exactly the same as King Leopold in the Congo.

King Leopold's Ghost is an incredible book to read if you want to learn more about the Congolese Genocide. Historians don't know the exact figure of atrocities, but most speculate that at least 5-10 million people died between 1885 and 1908. 

I also speculate, that Mr. Alfred has no idea what he's talking about when he mentions Colonialism.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: ice nine on November 02, 2022, 01:47:48 PM
tyler warren on ic
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Post by: ShitNuts on November 02, 2022, 02:57:26 PM

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King Leopold's Ghost is an incredible book to read if you want to learn more about the Congolese Genocide. Historians don't know the exact figure of atrocities, but most speculate that at least 5-10 million people died between 1885 and 1908. 

I also speculate, that Mr. Alfred has no idea what he's talking about when he mentions Colonialism.

Looks like a great read, cheers for the recommendation.
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Post by: formula420 on November 02, 2022, 03:38:09 PM
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kevin white trying to drag gifted hater over any of this,
while still simping for mikey alfred is next level kook shit
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I guess it makes sense if Kevin knows that Mikey is going through some bad mental struggles. Bad situation for everybody
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I can understand his position as well. Your homie is fucking up big time but you also know he's struggling, but you don't want your money to get fucked up because your boy can't log off
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I think Kevin of all people knows how indebted he is to Mikey cause without him he’d be working a grill. But he also does come off as a generally very nice and caring guy so it probably sucks to watch his friend go full loco. And kinda having to chose sides when the dudes who can pay you next are beefing with the dude who was paying you before.

By working a grill do you mean pro for FA?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: bigbevev on November 02, 2022, 03:44:19 PM
tyler warren on ic

Wish i could gnar lmao
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Post by: fakie nollie on November 02, 2022, 04:33:20 PM
I feel like if you lock b***k and Mikey in a room for 8 hours, both will self destruct
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Post by: offkilter on November 02, 2022, 04:40:08 PM
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"It feels like colonialism in 2022." - 28-Year-old LA nepo baby after asking for seven hundred thousand dollars from a fifteen-year-old for his skateboarding clips and then having that made into a tee.

you can't make this up folks.
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Mikey guest board on $lave incoming
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Hard Luck packages also on the way.

It's also pretty ironic that if he would have supported and put on a team of non-white skaters in the first place (if he's phrasing this as an attack on a black-owned business you would think that he would have wanted to do so all along) he wouldn't even be able to make this argument right now at all.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeapsCool on November 02, 2022, 06:37:36 PM
Back to the original topic, I don’t think we can underestimate Tyshawn’s influence on skateboarding these days.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lame_Nigga on November 02, 2022, 07:20:46 PM
Has there ever been a grown man who goes by Mikey that isn’t just the worst?
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Post by: shouldn't on November 02, 2022, 07:51:40 PM
Has there ever been a grown man who goes by Mikey that isn’t just the worst?
the kid from the goonies was cool.
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 02, 2022, 07:54:11 PM
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Has there ever been a grown man who goes by Mikey that isn’t just the worst?
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the kid from the goonies was cool.
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Post by: shouldn't on November 02, 2022, 08:12:18 PM
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Has there ever been a grown man who goes by Mikey that isn’t just the worst?
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the kid from the goonies was cool.
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he’s grown now & super rich. remember all the gold they found? do you think he changed it to mike or michael? he probably did, he seemed level headed. okay you guys are right.
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Post by: Doom patrol on November 02, 2022, 08:33:20 PM
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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.
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I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.
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Bret Easton ellis
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Both are excellent authors; Blood Meridian and American Psycho are my favorite from each.

Blood Meridian is fantastic but I prefer all the Border trilogy books. They are a little less abstract and made me feel like maybe I should try to be more like a stoic cowboy.
I read American Psycho 20 years ago while I was working overnight shifts in a petrol station in the middle of nowhere, wonderful though  very disturbing read. I read somewhere it used to be sold in shrink wrap like a porno because it's content was so upsetting, pretty funny.
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 02, 2022, 08:50:20 PM
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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.
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I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.
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Bret Easton ellis
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Both are excellent authors; Blood Meridian and American Psycho are my favorite from each.
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Blood Meridian is fantastic but I prefer all the Border trilogy books. They are a little less abstract and made me feel like maybe I should try to be more like a stoic cowboy.
I read American Psycho 20 years ago while I was working overnight shifts in a petrol station in the middle of nowhere, wonderful though  very disturbing read. I read somewhere it used to be sold in shrink wrap like a porno because it's content was so upsetting, pretty funny.

Cormac has two coming out this December, fyi

If you want good old fashioned cowboy shit, Lonesome Dove is perhaps my favorite book (I’m a big McMurtry fan and would defend all 4 in the series - one of the first two with the Rangers being hunted by Indians on the open plain is the stuff of nightmares)
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Post by: Doom patrol on November 02, 2022, 09:00:39 PM
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I walk past the bronze statue. Wow. I’m here so quickly. I’m wearing a sticker with my name on it. You’re in New York. Look at me. I’m on a horse.
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I think it sounds like lines of dialogue from a Cormac McCarthy novel.
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Bret Easton ellis
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Both are excellent authors; Blood Meridian and American Psycho are my favorite from each.
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Blood Meridian is fantastic but I prefer all the Border trilogy books. They are a little less abstract and made me feel like maybe I should try to be more like a stoic cowboy.
I read American Psycho 20 years ago while I was working overnight shifts in a petrol station in the middle of nowhere, wonderful though  very disturbing read. I read somewhere it used to be sold in shrink wrap like a porno because it's content was so upsetting, pretty funny.
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Cormac has two coming out this December, fyi

If you want good old fashioned cowboy shit, Lonesome Dove is perhaps my favorite book (I’m a big McMurtry fan and would defend all 4 in the series - one of the first two with the Rangers being hunted by Indians on the open plain is the stuff of nightmares)

Thanks for the recommendation, I really like cowboy books but was somehow unaware of this series. I will definitely check them out.
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Post by: europa1991 on November 02, 2022, 09:06:00 PM
Not a cowboy book but speaking of McMurty, The Desert Rose is truly one of his best novels.. Very underrated and at one point was gonna be adapted into a Terrence Malick movie.
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 02, 2022, 09:32:26 PM
Not a cowboy book but speaking of McMurty, The Desert Rose is truly one of his best novels.. Very underrated and at one point was gonna be adapted into a Terrence Malick movie.

I’ll check it out.  Was just about to start Moving On and give Terms of Endearment a go.    Also, highly recommend the trilogy that had Last Picture Show and the book Paul Newmans Hud was adapted from (also the movie is so good and it’s fun to watch Newman’s personal charisma fight against his characters deplorableness
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rune Spliffberg on November 03, 2022, 06:25:36 AM
Revisiting the Jenkem interview, when Rob Mattox was asked about the original crew leaving he mentioned:

"The only thing he [Mikey] told me was that the other guys pretty much made it in skating and he was trying to bring a new crew together."

Perhaps Mikey is trying to rebrand the IC business model to be more akin to Termites? Little kid drawings for a little kid brand seems like a no-brainer, could even have the riders do their own graphics and pay them with Happy Meals. Maybe their art would be close to or as good as Mikey's.
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Post by: IpathCats on November 03, 2022, 06:41:55 AM
Revisiting the Jenkem interview, when Rob Mattox was asked about the original crew leaving he mentioned:

"The only thing he [Mikey] told me was that the other guys pretty much made it in skating and he was trying to bring a new crew together."

Perhaps Mikey is trying to rebrand the IC business model to be more akin to Termites? Little kid drawings for a little kid brand seems like a no-brainer, could even have the riders do their own graphics and pay them with Happy Meals. Maybe their art would be close to or as good as Mikey's.

That's pretty mean of you to think everyone is THAT unskilled. Most drawings on school desks were better than Alfredo's bullshit.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rawbertson. on November 03, 2022, 07:06:17 AM
Lol @ Kevin White and them defending the smoking weed with kids
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Post by: IpathCats on November 03, 2022, 07:14:18 AM
Lol @ Kevin White and them defending the smoking weed with kids

I swear that dude is only in the mix because he's big and has a nice smile.

His skating isn't good or interesting, and he seems a little dumb, albeit nice.
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Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 03, 2022, 07:20:10 AM
Lol @ Kevin White and them defending the smoking weed with kids

That rubbed me the wrong way as well. I'll admit that I definitely smoked weed with adults at the skatepark when I was underage, but it was never on camera or anything. It was kind of known that it wasn't ok to make that shit public. In hindsight, it was definitely reckless and sketchy for adults to be giving weed to teenagers at the skatepark, even though these spaces have always been sort of a free for all. With that being said, its weird to see him openly defending this behavior to the skateboarding community at large. In my opinion, he should have refrained from commenting on that part of the situation.
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Post by: Idk on November 03, 2022, 07:20:27 AM
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I swear that dude is only in the mix because he's big and has a nice smile.

His skating isn't good or interesting, and he seems a little dumb, albeit nice.
The majority of clips of him are him drinking or smoking or drinking and smoking. His skating is super clumsy and the opposite of big man grace.
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Post by: IpathCats on November 03, 2022, 07:22:22 AM
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Lol @ Kevin White and them defending the smoking weed with kids
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I swear that dude is only in the mix because he's big and has a nice smile.

His skating isn't good or interesting, and he seems a little dumb, albeit nice.
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The majority of clips of him are him drinking or smoking or drinking and smoking. His skating is super clumsy and the opposite of big man grace.

Yea I don't enjoy it at all, horrible style, and a generally bad trick selection. I've never understood how he got put on for any other reason than being a homie.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TwisT on November 03, 2022, 07:48:37 AM
Mikey
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What happened to the original IC team? Are you still friends with them?
The original team, everyone was getting paid out of a bucket of money essentially, and when that ran out, then it became like, well now sales have to pay the salaries. They never caught up,

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Where did you get that initial amount of money to pay everyone?
Man, I mean IC, a lot of people hate on it, but it’s successful bro.

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Everybody needs to work in unity to make this shit happen, not just Mikey asking us to promote, promote, promote. It’s skating and everyone understands that we have to promote this, it’s not just on us. He’s saying our board is selling like dogshit and he’s telling that to fans behind our backs.

Why weren't IC boards selling?  it couldn't have just been the shit graphics. Lamer brands still sell boards. How is the brand successful but also not moving product?
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Post by: rawbertson. on November 03, 2022, 08:04:06 AM
i like how he ignored the question. we all know it came from a trust fund
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Post by: manysnakes on November 03, 2022, 11:14:51 AM
i like how he ignored the question. we all know it came from a trust fund

Yeah, I feel like the obvious subtext to everything here is that Mikey had a bunch of money he got from somewhere which he used to pay notable skaters to be his friends and now that the money is gone everyone has bounced.
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Post by: Coastal Fever on November 03, 2022, 11:18:34 AM
I’m curious exactly who’s gonna be on TJ’s company.  Could see Zach and Nak, because they objectively rip.. but with all the shit TJ talks about dudes with “weak ass footage”.. you guys think he’s gonna put on Kev or anyone else who doesn’t live up to his exceptionally high standards?
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Post by: Theme For A Jackal on November 03, 2022, 11:48:01 AM
i like how he ignored the question. we all know it came from a trust fund

Right... he literally said "sales weren't strong enough to pay the riders" and then followed that up immediately with "IC is successful believe it or not"
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Post by: Sid Farkus - Bra Salesman on November 03, 2022, 11:48:34 AM
A business can be hard when the business has to pay for the business.
- Business Professor, Alfredo University
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Post by: Lowcalcium on November 03, 2022, 12:03:02 PM
A business can be hard when the business has to pay for the business.
- Business Professor, Alfredo University

Mikey Alfredo learned his Business acumen from this gentleman and scholar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTkw9WOzhDs
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Post by: jakeumms on November 03, 2022, 12:21:10 PM
Uh oh looks like Mikey might have to declare...BANKRUPTCY!!!
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Post by: WPG on November 03, 2022, 12:34:46 PM
The posting of orders on the IG story is odd. Are these people DMing IC (like a man) or is Mikey legit thanking every order (1-2 a day)? If they are DMing why doesn't he just post the DM as he has no problem doing that?
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Post by: No Wave Comply on November 03, 2022, 12:58:09 PM
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Do you think there was any merit to anything Gifted Hater said in his critique video?
I didn’t watch his video.

Over/under on how many times he’s really watched it, seething at his phone screen?
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i picture alfredo in a dark room sitting alone in a director's chair, having converted GH's video to film reels, watching it on the projector over and over and over slowly driving him into madness.
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More like George C Scott in Hardcore

Hahaha. Great image/reference. One of Paul Schrader's best.
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Post by: jakeumms on November 03, 2022, 01:22:49 PM
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Do you think there was any merit to anything Gifted Hater said in his critique video?
I didn’t watch his video.

Over/under on how many times he’s really watched it, seething at his phone screen?
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i picture alfredo in a dark room sitting alone in a director's chair, having converted GH's video to film reels, watching it on the projector over and over and over slowly driving him into madness.
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More like George C Scott in Hardcore
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Hahaha. Great image/reference. One of Paul Schrader's best.
Season Hubely is so good in that
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Post by: The Ghost of Lenny Kirk on November 03, 2022, 02:14:01 PM
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I think now is the time for a legendary collaboration... it couldn't be any more perfect... Berra and Alfred... doritos and cariuma... Boring Alfredo: A lifestyle brand of alfredo-dust flavored skate shoes
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Mikey Alfritos X Berriuma


i thought this was an enjoi ad for a second
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Post by: No Wave Comply on November 03, 2022, 02:54:42 PM
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I didn’t watch his video.

Over/under on how many times he’s really watched it, seething at his phone screen?
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i picture alfredo in a dark room sitting alone in a director's chair, having converted GH's video to film reels, watching it on the projector over and over and over slowly driving him into madness.
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More like George C Scott in Hardcore
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Season Hubely is so good in that
Yep, she's great. Totally different kinda movie, but she's also good in Vice Squad, which is a fun and slightly campy/exploitative time capsule of Hollywood in the early 80's. Wings Hauser is a trip.
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Post by: one-off on November 03, 2022, 05:21:39 PM
Mocking Mikey Alfred is the Slap equivalent of a ride on grind
Not that all ride on grinds are bad
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Post by: LB on November 03, 2022, 06:02:19 PM
hell week is turning into hell month, its a good watch tbf
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i thought this was an enjoi ad for a second
Once in a while I screenshot things I find funny on here, but this is by far the funniest one. Day was made haha
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Post by: Ghost Face on November 03, 2022, 11:11:14 PM
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Yeah, I feel like the obvious subtext to everything here is that Mikey had a bunch of money he got from somewhere which he used to pay notable skaters to be his friends and now that the money is gone everyone has bounced.

Perfectly summed up.
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Post by: mj23 on November 04, 2022, 08:12:10 AM
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i like how he ignored the question. we all know it came from a trust fund
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Yeah, I feel like the obvious subtext to everything here is that Mikey had a bunch of money he got from somewhere which he used to pay notable skaters to be his friends and now that the money is gone everyone has bounced.
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Perfectly summed up.
this could certainly be the case but theres a slightly different scenario that's probably just as likely, which is that one of his wealthy family members or family friends made a big "investment" to get the project started, which has now run dry. happens a ton with rich kids i've known over the years, their parents want to give the kids some training wheels to simulate starting an actual business. and of course it has the benefit of not eating into their actual trust fund, god forbid
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Yeah, I feel like the obvious subtext to everything here is that Mikey had a bunch of money he got from somewhere which he used to pay notable skaters to be his friends and now that the money is gone everyone has bounced.
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Perfectly summed up.
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this could certainly be the case but theres a slightly different scenario that's probably just as likely, which is that one of his wealthy family members or family friends made a big "investment" to get the project started, which has now run dry. happens a ton with rich kids i've known over the years, their parents want to give the kids some training wheels to simulate starting an actual business. and of course it has the benefit of not eating into their actual trust fund, god forbid

That sounds like the scenario I described.
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Post by: jakeumms on November 04, 2022, 11:53:26 AM
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i like how he ignored the question. we all know it came from a trust fund
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Yeah, I feel like the obvious subtext to everything here is that Mikey had a bunch of money he got from somewhere which he used to pay notable skaters to be his friends and now that the money is gone everyone has bounced.
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Perfectly summed up.
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this could certainly be the case but theres a slightly different scenario that's probably just as likely, which is that one of his wealthy family members or family friends made a big "investment" to get the project started, which has now run dry. happens a ton with rich kids i've known over the years, their parents want to give the kids some training wheels to simulate starting an actual business. and of course it has the benefit of not eating into their actual trust fund, god forbid
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That sounds like the scenario I described.
No you see they have so much dough in the family that they can afford to bankroll the kid's future and then the biz and the kid doesn't have to take it out of the other pot. It's like when you get a present from your parents AND Santa. Eventually you figure out they're just buying you two presents and putting different from labels on them.

I do wanna put the breaks on some of this though in that Mikey's mom was personal assistant to Robert Evans but may not have made heavy dough during that period. One of my close friends was personal assistant to a producer that made movies you might watch on New Years Day or some other Happy Days and she made 10 an hour and she worked for him for years. It's entirely possible that the money didn't come from family at all.
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Post by: half staff on November 04, 2022, 01:08:11 PM
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i like how he ignored the question. we all know it came from a trust fund
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Yeah, I feel like the obvious subtext to everything here is that Mikey had a bunch of money he got from somewhere which he used to pay notable skaters to be his friends and now that the money is gone everyone has bounced.
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Perfectly summed up.
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this could certainly be the case but theres a slightly different scenario that's probably just as likely, which is that one of his wealthy family members or family friends made a big "investment" to get the project started, which has now run dry. happens a ton with rich kids i've known over the years, their parents want to give the kids some training wheels to simulate starting an actual business. and of course it has the benefit of not eating into their actual trust fund, god forbid
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That sounds like the scenario I described.
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No you see they have so much dough in the family that they can afford to bankroll the kid's future and then the biz and the kid doesn't have to take it out of the other pot. It's like when you get a present from your parents AND Santa. Eventually you figure out they're just buying you two presents and putting different from labels on them.

I do wanna put the breaks on some of this though in that Mikey's mom was personal assistant to Robert Evans but may not have made heavy dough during that period. One of my close friends was personal assistant to a producer that made movies you might watch on New Years Day or some other Happy Days and she made 10 an hour and she worked for him for years. It's entirely possible that the money didn't come from family at all.
his mom is basically lloyd and robert evans is ari gold.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Skateboard Shuffle on November 04, 2022, 02:27:53 PM
It's like when you get a present from your parents AND Santa. Eventually you figure out they're just buying you two presents and putting different from labels on them.

Wait. What???
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on November 04, 2022, 03:57:48 PM
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i like how he ignored the question. we all know it came from a trust fund
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Yeah, I feel like the obvious subtext to everything here is that Mikey had a bunch of money he got from somewhere which he used to pay notable skaters to be his friends and now that the money is gone everyone has bounced.
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Perfectly summed up.
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this could certainly be the case but theres a slightly different scenario that's probably just as likely, which is that one of his wealthy family members or family friends made a big "investment" to get the project started, which has now run dry. happens a ton with rich kids i've known over the years, their parents want to give the kids some training wheels to simulate starting an actual business. and of course it has the benefit of not eating into their actual trust fund, god forbid
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That sounds like the scenario I described.
Pretty much, just with a few more details about the dynamics of wealthy families

But to be honest I didn’t read your response very well. I just saw the word “trust fund” in the original quote and went from there
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Phao Lo on November 04, 2022, 04:14:05 PM
Another potential theory: https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca (https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca). Although the amount is only $10,354, see Businesses Using Same Address: section.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on November 04, 2022, 04:39:08 PM
Another potential theory: https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca (https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca). Although the amount is only $10,354, see Businesses Using Same Address: section.

Another trust fund baby scamming PPP loans from taxpayer dollars during covid, color me surprised.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: work_lurker on November 04, 2022, 06:12:01 PM
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It's like when you get a present from your parents AND Santa. Eventually you figure out they're just buying you two presents and putting different from labels on them.
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Wait. What???

SANTA'S DEAD. TOOTH FAIRY'S DEAD. EASTER BUNNY'S DEAD...CHILDHOOD RUINED.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on November 04, 2022, 06:13:02 PM
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Another potential theory: https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca (https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca). Although the amount is only $10,354, see Businesses Using Same Address: section.
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Another trust fund baby scamming PPP loans from taxpayer dollars during covid, color me surprised.

https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/micahel-alfred-gardena-ca

Same address it says I assume same Micahel afredel
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 04, 2022, 06:52:36 PM
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Another potential theory: https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca (https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca). Although the amount is only $10,354, see Businesses Using Same Address: section.
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Another trust fund baby scamming PPP loans from taxpayer dollars during covid, color me surprised.
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https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/micahel-alfred-gardena-ca

Same address it says I assume same Micahel afredel

Nice find, guess this was how he was making payroll for a while.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on November 04, 2022, 08:21:44 PM
Another potential theory: https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca (https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca). Although the amount is only $10,354, see Businesses Using Same Address: section.
This rocks because it says that the number of employees jobs saved is “one”
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on November 05, 2022, 09:44:39 AM
I cannot figure out posting pictures but Mikey just posted Tickets will get more expensive closer to the premiere date and that 34 IC supporters have gotten their tickets. Come on Mikey 34 that is embarrassing ever local shop video I've been to at least doubles if not triples that number.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on November 05, 2022, 09:52:17 AM
If this dude had any business sense at all he'd make the make the premiere free. The good will could be a life preserver to hold on to. It's clear he's not gonna sell enough tickets at this point.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on November 05, 2022, 09:57:02 AM
If this dude had any business sense at all he'd make the make the premiere free. The good will could be a life preserver to hold on to. It's clear he's not gonna sell enough tickets at this point.

If nothing else, do it to encourage people to come and save yourself the embarrassment of having Instagram photos floating around of a theater at 25% capacity.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: yourbreakfsat on November 05, 2022, 10:14:47 AM
I cannot figure out posting pictures but Mikey just posted Tickets will get more expensive closer to the premiere date and that 34 IC supporters have gotten their tickets. Come on Mikey 34 that is embarrassing ever local shop video I've been to at least doubles if not triples that number.

HAHA this is embarrassing

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/938266106701942824/1038500757374242917/Screenshot_20221105-101024_1.png)

Also Mikey please move on from North Hollywood, make a new movie with better writing.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkYd0barplK/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Post by: Mean salto on November 05, 2022, 10:32:58 AM
Catch north Hollywood on tubi this xmas
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Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 05, 2022, 12:59:14 PM
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If this dude had any business sense at all he'd make the make the premiere free. The good will could be a life preserver to hold on to. It's clear he's not gonna sell enough tickets at this point.
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If nothing else, do it to encourage people to come and save yourself the embarrassment of having Instagram photos floating around of a theater at 25% capacity.
I don’t think his narcissism would ever allow it.  Charging people to get in makes it an exclusivity thing. People willing to pay it validates his ego trip.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 05, 2022, 03:02:26 PM
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I cannot figure out posting pictures but Mikey just posted Tickets will get more expensive closer to the premiere date and that 34 IC supporters have gotten their tickets. Come on Mikey 34 that is embarrassing ever local shop video I've been to at least doubles if not triples that number.
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HAHA this is embarrassing

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/938266106701942824/1038500757374242917/Screenshot_20221105-101024_1.png)

Also Mikey please move on from North Hollywood, make a new movie with better writing.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkYd0barplK/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=




Counterpoint - move on from NH, and DONT make a new movie
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Nature_Table on November 05, 2022, 03:33:07 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Htv74KW/20-C27-F3-E-7632-46-B9-B2-D6-E1-B36212694-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Htv74KW)john 14 23 29 images (https://imgbb.com/)
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Another potential theory: https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca (https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/illegal-civ-cinema-llc-gardena-ca). Although the amount is only $10,354, see Businesses Using Same Address: section.
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Another trust fund baby scamming PPP loans from taxpayer dollars during covid, color me surprised.
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https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/micahel-alfred-gardena-ca

Same address it says I assume same Micahel afredel

It’s actually possible that this loan was taken out by his mother who, get this, is also called Michael Alfred.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pbj on November 05, 2022, 07:29:20 PM
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I cannot figure out posting pictures but Mikey just posted Tickets will get more expensive closer to the premiere date and that 34 IC supporters have gotten their tickets. Come on Mikey 34 that is embarrassing ever local shop video I've been to at least doubles if not triples that number.
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HAHA this is embarrassing

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/938266106701942824/1038500757374242917/Screenshot_20221105-101024_1.png)

Also Mikey please move on from North Hollywood, make a new movie with better writing.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkYd0barplK/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Counterpoint - move on from NH, and DONT make a new movie

Adding this in relation to the 750k deal with Showtime he includes in that Instagram post.

(https://i.imgur.com/CbWkWoj.png)

So in addition to embarrassing himself by calling out the execs that passed on the film, throwing shade at Jonah/Spike, his sale of the film was under half of the initial budget.
best case with iTunes sales, that's still roughly half of the budget.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Pete on November 05, 2022, 07:41:59 PM
So this whole shit is really just one of the most public mommymoney meltdowns in real time on…very cool mikey. His mom going by Michael is def hella sus, that’s some real weird “on paper…” type shit.

Dude sucks. When fools would rather be flow for life than be pro and get paid to ride for your brand, pick a new thing to leech buddy. Shit ain’t for everybody. Try waterpolo or whatever you actually do on the weekends



Free max b
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Kanteen Russell on November 05, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
Mike has a lot of nerve, which just goes to show you that nerve plus trust fund does not equal jack shit if there is no talent as well. His cotton ponchos are dumb as shit. This is what taking "no publicity is bad publicity" to its logical conclusion looks like ... Like a Doritos sponsorship.

Please keep Max B detained
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: djoekr on November 06, 2022, 01:57:44 AM
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Lol @ Kevin White and them defending the smoking weed with kids
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That rubbed me the wrong way as well. I'll admit that I definitely smoked weed with adults at the skatepark when I was underage, but it was never on camera or anything. It was kind of known that it wasn't ok to make that shit public. In hindsight, it was definitely reckless and sketchy for adults to be giving weed to teenagers at the skatepark, even though these spaces have always been sort of a free for all. With that being said, its weird to see him openly defending this behavior to the skateboarding community at large. In my opinion, he should have refrained from commenting on that part of the situation.

I mean it's been normalized in skating for quite a while. The young guys on Baker definitely partied with the rest and we're not crucifying them over it. Personally I'd never smoke out underage skaters but it's definitely been happening before.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Punished Skateboards on November 06, 2022, 07:31:57 AM
I wonder which song he’ll perform at the premiere

https://youtu.be/OaAQoqcolDA

https://youtu.be/UQcaKmHLs48

https://youtu.be/FpbZClKuQwU
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: mj23 on November 06, 2022, 07:59:15 AM
So this whole shit is really just one of the most public mommymoney meltdowns in real time on…very cool mikey. His mom going by Michael is def hella sus, that’s some real weird “on paper…” type shit.

Dude sucks. When fools would rather be flow for life than be pro and get paid to ride for your brand, pick a new thing to leech buddy. Shit ain’t for everybody. Try waterpolo or whatever you actually do on the weekends



Free max b

Mikey looks like he would get drowned if he tried to play water polo

More like a croquet guy if I had to guess
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dallou on November 06, 2022, 08:03:44 AM
Damn he is not a good singer. As a bad singer myself I admire the confidence to leave his voice dry like that without effects or even doubling it. It’s so high in the mix too. Respect
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: scary on November 06, 2022, 07:52:24 PM
Illegal Civ made probably 60% of their all time profits solely off of women thinking Nico is hot.
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Post by: Rubbrick on November 06, 2022, 07:57:11 PM
Illegal Civ made probably 60% of their all time profits solely off of women thinking Nico is hot.

This and all of the Odd future fan boy spillover
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fakie nollie on November 06, 2022, 08:09:05 PM
Damn he is not a good singer. As a bad singer myself I admire the confidence to leave his voice dry like that without effects or even doubling it. It’s so high in the mix too. Respect

Speaking of which/.. when are you coming out with new music? I still play on loop the song in your sig
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Post by: fineslime on November 06, 2022, 08:18:38 PM
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Damn he is not a good singer. As a bad singer myself I admire the confidence to leave his voice dry like that without effects or even doubling it. It’s so high in the mix too. Respect
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Speaking of which/.. when are you coming out with new music? I still play on loop the song in your sig

tbh guys, his singing is probably the best piece of art I've seen/ heard from him. his voice isn't GREAT but it seems like he has an understanding of pitch and rhythm, and that's half the battle. if he absolutely quit doing everything else; shut down his company, stopped making movies, moved on from skating, grew a sense of self awareness, ate the biggest slice of humble pie ever, and then dedicated 10 years of his life day in and day out to become a musician he probably could.
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Post by: able on November 06, 2022, 09:41:23 PM
Yeah, I’ll admit he’s not a bad singer. I don’t co-sign any of the other stuff though
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Yonnycage on November 06, 2022, 09:58:59 PM
You freed me when you let me be me AYEEEEEE
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Post by: Beeda Weeda on November 07, 2022, 04:06:49 AM
every single assumption that I made when I first saw him on the 9 club, has proven to be true.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 07, 2022, 05:03:38 AM
You freed me when you let me be me AYEEEEEE

That "AYEEEEE" really needed to be turned down a bit.

That'll be 100k Mikey
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: i used to skate on November 07, 2022, 05:40:28 AM
You Freed Me is a bop. I agree his music is his best artistic output and could be a thing
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Post by: dannyprovolone on November 07, 2022, 05:45:18 AM
nah nobody wanna hear that

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Post by: goodatmeth on November 07, 2022, 05:51:35 AM
Reminds me of this musical genius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq_d8VSM0nw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq_d8VSM0nw)
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Post by: IpathCats on November 07, 2022, 07:34:17 AM


HAHA this is embarrassing

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How many of the 34 supporters are family? If he couldn't pay the riders, I doubt his family is getting any freebies.

20 family members
10 kids mikey forced to buy tickets after getting them stoned and in a burger coma
2 doritos reps
2 idiots that actually like IC and think the art is "deep"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Esmith5488 on November 07, 2022, 08:24:37 AM
Dude, there was more than 34 people in pitcrew when krooked 3d premiered
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Post by: sometimeperhaps on November 07, 2022, 08:29:10 AM
I said it before but I got $5 to pitch for a ticket to anyone who goes and provides live updates. Come on pals, we need autopsy reports from this train wreck of a brand.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rawbertson. on November 07, 2022, 08:30:14 AM
it would have been amazing if Logan would have called his bluff about the agents and said "OK, put me on the line with your agents and we will negotiate a deal" i guarantee this guy doesnt have agents. would have been hilaroius to see him scramble and the "Agent" he would have came up with.

did the riders, future or present, not see the doritos thing? lol
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Post by: camel filters on November 07, 2022, 08:38:14 AM
it would have been amazing if Logan would have called his bluff about the agents and said "OK, put me on the line with your agents and we will negotiate a deal" i guarantee this guy doesnt have agents. would have been hilaroius to see him scramble and the "Agent" he would have came up with.

did the riders, future or present, not see the doritos thing? lol
I know what you're getting at but it's not unfeasible that a guy with familial ties to the industry (his mom knows the former Paramount studio head) would have an agent. Wasting the agent's time with this nonsense would be a good troll though.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on November 07, 2022, 09:26:58 AM
He has an agent for sure because he was just posting about the 750K he got for getting North Hollywood up on Showtime. Now take a wild guess what parent company owns Showtime! They just rebranded too
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Post by: IpathCats on November 07, 2022, 09:28:13 AM
Dude, there was more than 34 people in pitcrew when krooked 3d premiered

gnar'd for pitcrew (RIP) reference.

Embark seems to be doing well.
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Post by: rawbertson. on November 07, 2022, 10:07:06 AM
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it would have been amazing if Logan would have called his bluff about the agents and said "OK, put me on the line with your agents and we will negotiate a deal" i guarantee this guy doesnt have agents. would have been hilaroius to see him scramble and the "Agent" he would have came up with.

did the riders, future or present, not see the doritos thing? lol
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I know what you're getting at but it's not unfeasible that a guy with familial ties to the industry (his mom knows the former Paramount studio head) would have an agent. Wasting the agent's time with this nonsense would be a good troll though.

that would be even funnier!!
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Post by: KGB on November 07, 2022, 10:27:46 AM
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gnar'd for pitcrew (RIP) reference.

Embark seems to be doing well.

I don’t think pitcrew should be in the same thread as Mikey Alfred, but here we are lol. Isn’t at least one of the same guys doing Embark now?
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Post by: IpathCats on November 07, 2022, 11:03:36 AM
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gnar'd for pitcrew (RIP) reference.

Embark seems to be doing well.
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I don’t think pitcrew should be in the same thread as Mikey Alfred, but here we are lol. Isn’t at least one of the same guys doing Embark now?

I believe so.

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 07, 2022, 01:16:42 PM
He has an agent for sure because he was just posting about the 750K he got for getting North Hollywood up on Showtime. Now take a wild guess what parent company owns Showtime! They just rebranded too

Viacom?   I don’t get it
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Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 07, 2022, 01:25:24 PM
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Viacom?   I don’t get it

Viacom = Paramount. 

Seems like more coincidence than anything meaningful.  I’m sure Showtime needs cheap content for their service, and $750K was just the most money his agents (seems like WME / Endeavor content represented the film) could get for the streaming rights.  Also, not sure what the waterfall looks like, but with all of Mikey’s probable investors who financed the film, guessing he’s not keeping the whole pie.
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Post by: Theme For A Jackal on November 07, 2022, 01:46:32 PM
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Viacom?   I don’t get it
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Viacom = Paramount. 

Seems like more coincidence than anything meaningful.  I’m sure Showtime needs cheap content for their service, and $750K was just the most money his agents (seems like WME / Endeavor content represented the film) could get for the streaming rights.  Also, not sure what the waterfall looks like, but with all of Mikey’s probable investors who financed the film, guessing he’s not keeping the whole pie.

Or any of it if the reported budget is accurate
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Post by: manysnakes on November 07, 2022, 02:43:28 PM
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Viacom?   I don’t get it
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Viacom = Paramount. 

Seems like more coincidence than anything meaningful.  I’m sure Showtime needs cheap content for their service, and $750K was just the most money his agents (seems like WME / Endeavor content represented the film) could get for the streaming rights.  Also, not sure what the waterfall looks like, but with all of Mikey’s probable investors who financed the film, guessing he’s not keeping the whole pie.
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Or any of it if the reported budget is accurate

Yeah, it has always been my understanding that it’s actually pretty uncommon for movies of this size to make any money.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GAY on November 07, 2022, 03:21:52 PM
I NEEEEEEED one of those Illy Civ capes, y'all!
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Post by: graibe on November 07, 2022, 03:23:47 PM
Mikey Alfred probably can't even ride a skateboard. I don't ever seen him really do it. He just likes to smoke out kids and give them burgers. Kinda suspect if you ask me.
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 07, 2022, 04:00:35 PM
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He has an agent for sure because he was just posting about the 750K he got for getting North Hollywood up on Showtime. Now take a wild guess what parent company owns Showtime! They just rebranded too
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Viacom?   I don’t get it
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Viacom = Paramount. 

Seems like more coincidence than anything meaningful.  I’m sure Showtime needs cheap content for their service, and $750K was just the most money his agents (seems like WME / Endeavor content represented the film) could get for the streaming rights.  Also, not sure what the waterfall looks like, but with all of Mikey’s probable investors who financed the film, guessing he’s not keeping the whole pie.


ohhh right - ok i wasn't making the robert evans connection there because that was the gulf + western days 50 years ago.

Showtime def traffics in a lot of indie/cheap features for their service, so this was easy grist for their mill.   

also, love that you're discussing the waterfall
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He has an agent for sure because he was just posting about the 750K he got for getting North Hollywood up on Showtime. Now take a wild guess what parent company owns Showtime! They just rebranded too
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Viacom?   I don’t get it
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Viacom = Paramount. 

Seems like more coincidence than anything meaningful.  I’m sure Showtime needs cheap content for their service, and $750K was just the most money his agents (seems like WME / Endeavor content represented the film) could get for the streaming rights.  Also, not sure what the waterfall looks like, but with all of Mikey’s probable investors who financed the film, guessing he’s not keeping the whole pie.
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Or any of it if the reported budget is accurate
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Yeah, it has always been my understanding that it’s actually pretty uncommon for movies of this size to make any money.

i'd say the goal of a movie like this is to sell it to a distributor at a major festival and that's where you can make money.

however, this movie never made it into any of the buyers' festivals and every distributor passed on it when they did showcase screenings, so they basically had to go "the self-published ebook on amazon" route and release it straight to apple tv.   

budget-wise, the lions' share likely went to Vince Vaughn and Miranda Cosgrove.  I highly doubt either of them would take points on this, but I wouldn't doubt if they got something.   Prints & Adverstising usually is a hidden cost that can, for major movies, get pretty pricey (i forget how close to the shooting budget it gets).
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He has an agent for sure because he was just posting about the 750K he got for getting North Hollywood up on Showtime. Now take a wild guess what parent company owns Showtime! They just rebranded too
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Viacom?   I don’t get it
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Viacom = Paramount. 

Seems like more coincidence than anything meaningful.  I’m sure Showtime needs cheap content for their service, and $750K was just the most money his agents (seems like WME / Endeavor content represented the film) could get for the streaming rights.  Also, not sure what the waterfall looks like, but with all of Mikey’s probable investors who financed the film, guessing he’s not keeping the whole pie.
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Or any of it if the reported budget is accurate
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Yeah, it has always been my understanding that it’s actually pretty uncommon for movies of this size to make any money.
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i'd say the goal of a movie like this is to sell it to a distributor at a major festival and that's where you can make money.

however, this movie never made it into any of the buyers' festivals and every distributor passed on it when they did showcase screenings, so they basically had to go "the self-published ebook on amazon" route and release it straight to apple tv.   

budget-wise, the lions' share likely went to Vince Vaughn and Miranda Cosgrove.  I highly doubt either of them would take points on this, but I wouldn't doubt if they got something.   Prints & Adverstising usually is a hidden cost that can, for major movies, get pretty pricey (i forget how close to the shooting budget it gets).

P&A usually equals the production budget, which is why a lot of distributors claimed they weren’t the right marketing partners for the film, they have to acquire the film then spend that much again marketing the film. 

It’s why a lot of films die on the shelf, it’s often easier to not commit the marketing spend and just dump it to VOD, instead of going deeper into a sunk cost.  But sometimes a film that didnt turn out well will have a screen number commitment - say a wide release of 2K screens or something, but it will just last a weekend - all contractual.
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Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on November 07, 2022, 05:40:18 PM
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Dude, there was more than 34 people in pitcrew when krooked 3d premiered
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gnar'd for pitcrew (RIP) reference.

Embark seems to be doing well.
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I don’t think pitcrew should be in the same thread as Mikey Alfred, but here we are lol. Isn’t at least one of the same guys doing Embark now?
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I believe so.
Brent runs Embark. Brent was a long time employee at Pitcrew. (Malcom and Tim were the owners.) It's a good shop and Brent is a good guy. Def stop by if you're in the area (or order something online).
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Post by: left knee cap on November 07, 2022, 06:51:19 PM
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He has an agent for sure because he was just posting about the 750K he got for getting North Hollywood up on Showtime. Now take a wild guess what parent company owns Showtime! They just rebranded too
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Viacom?   I don’t get it
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Viacom = Paramount. 

Seems like more coincidence than anything meaningful.  I’m sure Showtime needs cheap content for their service, and $750K was just the most money his agents (seems like WME / Endeavor content represented the film) could get for the streaming rights.  Also, not sure what the waterfall looks like, but with all of Mikey’s probable investors who financed the film, guessing he’s not keeping the whole pie.
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Or any of it if the reported budget is accurate
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Yeah, it has always been my understanding that it’s actually pretty uncommon for movies of this size to make any money.
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i'd say the goal of a movie like this is to sell it to a distributor at a major festival and that's where you can make money.

however, this movie never made it into any of the buyers' festivals and every distributor passed on it when they did showcase screenings, so they basically had to go "the self-published ebook on amazon" route and release it straight to apple tv.   

budget-wise, the lions' share likely went to Vince Vaughn and Miranda Cosgrove.  I highly doubt either of them would take points on this, but I wouldn't doubt if they got something.   Prints & Adverstising usually is a hidden cost that can, for major movies, get pretty pricey (i forget how close to the shooting budget it gets).
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P&A usually equals the production budget, which is why a lot of distributors claimed they weren’t the right marketing partners for the film, they have to acquire the film then spend that much again marketing the film. 

It’s why a lot of films die on the shelf, it’s often easier to not commit the marketing spend and just dump it to VOD, instead of going deeper into a sunk cost.  But sometimes a film that didnt turn out well will have a screen number commitment - say a wide release of 2K screens or something, but it will just last a weekend - all contractual.

as someone who recently started working in this industry, you are pretty dead on.

i've screened a lot of movies since working this job, most of them have bigger names than vince vaughn and miranda cosgrave and even that isn't good enough to pick up, let alone market for VOD or TVOD. sometimes even the agents representing the film demand a lot because of star power, but at the end of the day - it won't make money for the distributor. now there are some shitty films we pick up, ex. a boring thriller starring one of the leads from Game of Thrones? fuck it, people will watch it and they have. and it pays itself off.

but, skater-drama-comedy with minor supporting roles with vince vaughn and miranda cosgrove, with a director who is demanding A, B, C for his movie? nah... not worth the risk to lose money on something that won't pick up steam and ultimately will have a company lose money.

also wouldn't be surprising if mikey had this movie submitted for every film fest under the sun, and got rejected at each one.
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Post by: IpathCats on November 07, 2022, 07:23:54 PM
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Dude, there was more than 34 people in pitcrew when krooked 3d premiered
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gnar'd for pitcrew (RIP) reference.

Embark seems to be doing well.
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I don’t think pitcrew should be in the same thread as Mikey Alfred, but here we are lol. Isn’t at least one of the same guys doing Embark now?
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I believe so.
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Brent runs Embark. Brent was a long time employee at Pitcrew. (Malcom and Tim were the owners.) It's a good shop and Brent is a good guy. Def stop by if you're in the area (or order something online).

Embark and Venue are the closest legit shops near me with decent online stores. I always check them first before other shops.
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Post by: Ghost Face on November 07, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
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HAHA this is embarrassing

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How many of the 34 supporters are family? If he couldn't pay the riders, I doubt his family is getting any freebies.

20 family members
10 kids mikey forced to buy tickets after getting them stoned and in a burger coma
2 doritos reps
2 idiots that actually like IC and think the art is "deep"

Notice he says "gotten" not "bought" or "purchased".......
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Post by: Lou Strux on November 07, 2022, 11:22:18 PM
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Dude, there was more than 34 people in pitcrew when krooked 3d premiered
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gnar'd for pitcrew (RIP) reference.

Embark seems to be doing well.
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I don’t think pitcrew should be in the same thread as Mikey Alfred, but here we are lol. Isn’t at least one of the same guys doing Embark now?
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I believe so.
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Brent runs Embark. Brent was a long time employee at Pitcrew. (Malcom and Tim were the owners.) It's a good shop and Brent is a good guy. Def stop by if you're in the area (or order something online).
Big fan of Tim & Malc.
Those dudes turned me onto a young shop rider back in the day; went by the name of… Worrest, I think it was? Something like that.
Those two did a lot to keep the scene thriving.
Top dudes.
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Post by: IpathCats on November 08, 2022, 05:04:44 AM
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Dude, there was more than 34 people in pitcrew when krooked 3d premiered
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gnar'd for pitcrew (RIP) reference.

Embark seems to be doing well.
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I don’t think pitcrew should be in the same thread as Mikey Alfred, but here we are lol. Isn’t at least one of the same guys doing Embark now?
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I believe so.
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Brent runs Embark. Brent was a long time employee at Pitcrew. (Malcom and Tim were the owners.) It's a good shop and Brent is a good guy. Def stop by if you're in the area (or order something online).
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Big fan of Tim & Malc.
Those dudes turned me onto a young shop rider back in the day; went by the name of… Worrest, I think it was? Something like that.
Those two did a lot to keep the scene thriving.
Top dudes.

I was a little ass dorky grom when PITCREW was in its prime. They were like 3-ish hours from me so i never went as a kid. But growing up, i knew that they were the cool guy MD skateshop. All the rippers in the DMV rocked their shit. I only visited once before they shutdown.
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Post by: rawbertson. on November 08, 2022, 05:23:08 AM
Lol I dont think mikeys agent would be too keen on calling a 16 year old kid to tell him he owes michael 700k for skate clips
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Post by: KGB on November 08, 2022, 05:35:12 AM
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Dude, there was more than 34 people in pitcrew when krooked 3d premiered
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gnar'd for pitcrew (RIP) reference.

Embark seems to be doing well.
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I don’t think pitcrew should be in the same thread as Mikey Alfred, but here we are lol. Isn’t at least one of the same guys doing Embark now?
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I believe so.
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Brent runs Embark. Brent was a long time employee at Pitcrew. (Malcom and Tim were the owners.) It's a good shop and Brent is a good guy. Def stop by if you're in the area (or order something online).
Thanks for the update, will do.
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Post by: Idk on November 08, 2022, 05:55:26 AM
Brent runs Embark on that street that the 207 Pitcrew shop was at. Keep going so he can make it as big as Pitcrew. The last location they had, Daan Van Der Linden came in and said “is this a bowling alley” because of how big it was. The 880 store.
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Post by: KGB on November 08, 2022, 06:13:59 AM
Brent runs Embark on that street that the 207 Pitcrew shop was at. Keep going so he can make it as big as Pitcrew. The last location they had, Daan Van Der Linden came in and said “is this a bowling alley” because of how big it was. The 880 store.

Yeah that last spot was huge, I was thinking they could if built a park right there. But it was kinda in the middle of no where compared to the OG location. Embark seems to be picking up steam, I hope it does just as well as pitcrew.
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Post by: Beeda Weeda on November 08, 2022, 06:40:19 AM
how long until Mikey goes MAGA
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Post by: 323-BALM on November 08, 2022, 06:43:35 AM
how long until Mikey goes MAGA

90 days. From a couple weeks ago
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Post by: DCLOVE on November 08, 2022, 06:51:40 AM
Arin posted questions on her ig and one was asking about a part and her response was I’m at 690k so pretty soon. I love that everyone in the industry is just taking the piss with this guy.
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Post by: LebowskisRug on November 08, 2022, 06:52:28 AM
Mikey fired shots at himself change the thread title.
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Post by: IpathCats on November 08, 2022, 06:58:33 AM
Arin posted questions on her ig and one was asking about a part and her response was I’m at 690k so pretty soon. I love that everyone in the industry is just taking the piss with this guy.

That's fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 08, 2022, 09:12:58 AM
Mikey Alfred probably can't even ride a skateboard. I don't ever seen him really do it. He just likes to smoke out kids and give them burgers. Kinda suspect if you ask me.

Okay so, I was pretty neutral on him. His appearance, his outfits, his voice, his arrogance, his Doritos commercial, I didn't have any opinion about him.
Then I saw clip somewhere on this forum where he was skating. The way he did a fs halfcab offended me.

*I don't want this thread to ever disappear.
What is Mikey up to? Did he already premier his video?
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Post by: DaleSr on November 08, 2022, 09:25:03 AM
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Mikey Alfred probably can't even ride a skateboard. I don't ever seen him really do it. He just likes to smoke out kids and give them burgers. Kinda suspect if you ask me.
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Okay so, I was pretty neutral on him. His appearance, his outfits, his voice, his arrogance, his Doritos commercial, I didn't have any opinion about him.
Then I saw clip somewhere on this forum where he was skating. The way he did a fs halfcab offended me.

*I don't want this thread to ever disappear.
What is Mikey up to? Did he already premier his video?

I've seen proof of him skating. It's not pretty. Very stiff
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Post by: IpathCats on November 08, 2022, 09:26:58 AM
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Mikey Alfred probably can't even ride a skateboard. I don't ever seen him really do it. He just likes to smoke out kids and give them burgers. Kinda suspect if you ask me.
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Okay so, I was pretty neutral on him. His appearance, his outfits, his voice, his arrogance, his Doritos commercial, I didn't have any opinion about him.
Then I saw clip somewhere on this forum where he was skating. The way he did a fs halfcab offended me.

*I don't want this thread to ever disappear.
What is Mikey up to? Did he already premier his video?
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I've seen proof of him skating. It's not pretty. Very stiff

one might even say his skating is....... illegal.
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Post by: banksandledges on November 08, 2022, 09:51:29 AM
Illegal Stiff
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Post by: fs1/2cab on November 08, 2022, 11:15:41 AM
Illegal Stiff

and not civilized
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Post by: work_lurker on November 09, 2022, 11:36:23 AM
GUESS these guys moved on to a more legal civilization
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkrM-lkgc-i/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Post by: IpathCats on November 09, 2022, 11:43:33 AM
GUESS these guys moved on to a more legal civilization
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkrM-lkgc-i/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I really like watching Zach skate.

I wonder what that Guess check is like?
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Post by: Sid Farkus - Bra Salesman on November 09, 2022, 11:47:14 AM
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GUESS these guys moved on to a more legal civilization
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkrM-lkgc-i/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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I really like watching Zach skate.

I wonder what that Guess check is like?
700k?
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Post by: IpathCats on November 09, 2022, 12:14:54 PM
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GUESS these guys moved on to a more legal civilization
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkrM-lkgc-i/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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I really like watching Zach skate.

I wonder what that Guess check is like?
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700k?

Your Guess is as good as mine
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Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 09, 2022, 12:26:18 PM
When did Midler start rocking Adidas?
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Post by: work_lurker on November 09, 2022, 12:47:27 PM
When did Midler start rocking Adidas?

He's finally able to afford them now with the Guess checks...I guess.
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Post by: Geico Insurance on November 09, 2022, 02:08:58 PM
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Post by: veritas on November 09, 2022, 03:15:20 PM
hope Tyshawn is ready to sand down and repaint over some graphics after he puts those two slices of wonder bread on the new company
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Post by: Dark Knight on November 09, 2022, 03:17:32 PM
hope Tyshawn is ready to sand down and repaint over some graphics after he puts those two slices of wonder bread on the new company

Saraceno is the the shit
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Post by: squippy on November 09, 2022, 03:44:29 PM
I NEEEEEEED one of those Illy Civ capes, y'all!

chef's kiss
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Post by: TurdyBird on November 09, 2022, 05:04:41 PM
hope Tyshawn is ready to sand down and repaint over some graphics after he puts those two slices of wonder bread on the new company

Doubt Mids got the nod. Wouldn’t be surprised if Zach’s the only one with a board sponsor for a while.

Slightly off topic, but, I feel like Tyshawns new company gonna be the new Numbers. I doubt I’m the first one to say it. I hope it’s not. I hope the crown boards are just samples but man. Feels bland.

Hope it works out for Tyshawn, but maybe can have the same path as BA, but at a younger age.
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Post by: Manny Fapuiao on November 09, 2022, 08:42:02 PM
and I'd get away with it too if it weren't for these Midler kids!
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Post by: GungaLaGunga on November 10, 2022, 10:21:03 AM
every single assumption that I made when I first saw him on the 9 club, has proven to be true.

Exactly.  The Nine Club dudes were falling over themselves fluffing him up like he was a god when it seemed to be pretty clear to a lot of people that Mikey is a SUPER arrogant rich kid that saw skateboarding was cool and figured it might make him legit.  He can't skate because he could never take a slam.
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Post by: Ride it to dust on November 10, 2022, 10:27:22 AM
Also, he doesn’t want to tear a hole in his $1000 tennis jumper thats draped over his shoulders.
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Post by: GAY on November 10, 2022, 04:28:58 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/HUzQqEF.jpg)
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Post by: pbj on November 10, 2022, 07:26:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ke3gSytf3s
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Post by: rawr1922 on November 10, 2022, 08:38:30 PM
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this made me chuckle. Original image solidified he doesn’t skate . Those wheels & shoes.  I’m not a sneaker head however those look like special edition low mid Jordan shoes. Don’t trust him . Think Sneaker Heads the worst . Image & clout chasers especially the Nike & Jordan chasers . Tools . You know what’s cooler … Allen Iverson shoes all generations . However that’s not hip , it’s Nike & Various Jordan models
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Post by: DaleSr on November 10, 2022, 09:09:34 PM
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this made me chuckle. Original image solidified he doesn’t skate . Those wheels & shoes.  I’m not a sneaker head however those look like special edition low mid Jordan shoes. Don’t trust him . Think Sneaker Heads the worst . Image & clout chasers especially the Nike & Jordan chasers . Tools . You know what’s cooler … Allen Iverson shoes all generations . However that’s not hip , it’s Nike & Various Jordan models

That's not true about Iversons. The answer is a certified classic
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 10, 2022, 09:31:53 PM
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Off to grandmothers house I go
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Post by: skate_or_dingus on November 10, 2022, 11:44:07 PM
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 The Snuggie Bandit
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 The Snuggie Bandit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EEJgy4_3ZYA
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Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on November 11, 2022, 05:39:43 AM
Mikey on Lil' Red Riding Hood cosplay
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Post by: GauchoAmigo on November 11, 2022, 08:45:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSCNzjhHgyc

Caption says the video will feature 3 skaters. So this whole jawn gonna be 12mins long?
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Post by: rawbertson. on November 11, 2022, 08:57:28 AM
man really put his first communion in the edit
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Post by: twic3 on November 11, 2022, 09:02:30 AM
rename the video to hella weak
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Post by: mj23 on November 11, 2022, 09:02:50 AM
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Doubt Mids got the nod. Wouldn’t be surprised if Zach’s the only one with a board sponsor for a while.

Slightly off topic, but, I feel like Tyshawns new company gonna be the new Numbers. I doubt I’m the first one to say it. I hope it’s not. I hope the crown boards are just samples but man. Feels bland.

Hope it works out for Tyshawn, but maybe can have the same path as BA, but at a younger age.
tyshawn rips but when you look at some of his fits you can see that he might not have the best aesthetic judgment.. doesn't bode well for his ability to build a team or choose good graphics
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Post by: GAY on November 11, 2022, 09:03:52 AM
man really put his first communion in the edit

bahaha
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Post by: KGB on November 11, 2022, 09:05:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ke3gSytf3s

What’s up with this? Dalton doesn’t care about getting sued or different new footage??
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on November 11, 2022, 09:39:44 AM
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What’s up with this? Dalton doesn’t care about getting sued or different new footage??

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ALL SALES GO TO LEGAL FEES

DVD page says the same thing

https://movie1991.square.site/product/700k-dvd-preorder/4?cs=true&cst=custom

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I wasn’t gonna do this but I had no choice I had to give my xtreme fisheye back to Mikey from illegal civ because I left the group so I made this video so that I could sell dvd’s to raise money to buy a new one /:

Buying this dvd should help cover legal fees for releasing the video too btw
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: thespacewolf on November 11, 2022, 10:10:25 AM
They might have to deal with more legal trouble with those merch designs wtf lol
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 11, 2022, 11:23:34 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HUzQqEF.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/M7yL8jz/5-B8-F942-A-A460-43-F3-B048-735-B57-BCD356.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VT08HhF)


I had to do it to em
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dark Knight on November 11, 2022, 11:50:49 AM
+1 haha
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Pete on November 11, 2022, 12:07:59 PM
Guess that contract wasn’t as serious, or existent, as that kid made it out to be. Regardless that’s cool he no longer has to associate himself with Mikey.

Everyone has left twice and this lil weirdo still thinks people will pay $34 to see a couple groms do ABDs around LA county. So dope



Free max b
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on November 11, 2022, 12:19:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSCNzjhHgyc

Caption says the video will feature 3 skaters. So this whole jawn gonna be 12mins long?

I'm genuinely surprised that people will associate with him. I am sure that there are a lot of people on the fringes of skating who are pretty good and desperate to get in somewhere, but you have to realize that being the third-stringers on Illegal Civ, at this point, is not good for your career and will not help you in the industry.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 11, 2022, 12:38:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AmylNsa.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: chihuahuadad2000 on November 11, 2022, 12:55:38 PM
Yikes..I watched the trailer - the one dude is good, the other kids look like they can barely stand on a skateboard. This looks like a local grom video.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 11, 2022, 01:23:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/RvI9zP8.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: scary on November 11, 2022, 02:01:00 PM
I don’t know how to post pics in here but mikey’s text with logans mom is crazy! I wish that dude the worst
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on November 11, 2022, 02:03:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bLxQ0tO.jpg)

my mans Nike Alfredo
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: urbneathme on November 11, 2022, 02:20:52 PM
using your cousin’s murder sentence to try to sell skateboards is one of the most repulsive things i’ve ever seen. a person who could use someone they purportedly love’s loss of freedom for financial gain does not possess human empathy
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on November 11, 2022, 02:29:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bLxQ0tO.jpg)

my mans Nike Alfredo

Mikey Allred
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on November 11, 2022, 02:37:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/J1rgkHM.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dr Waffles on November 11, 2022, 03:00:18 PM
using your cousin’s murder sentence to try to sell skateboards is one of the most repulsive things i’ve ever seen. a person who could use someone they purportedly love’s loss of freedom for financial gain does not possess human empathy

yeah, that has been pretty bad. Not sure where he's going with it. Does he think it makes him tough to associate with that or something? Does he still live with his mom? Can't she take away his phone or something?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: formula420 on November 11, 2022, 03:13:46 PM
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using your cousin’s murder sentence to try to sell skateboards is one of the most repulsive things i’ve ever seen. a person who could use someone they purportedly love’s loss of freedom for financial gain does not possess human empathy
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yeah, that has been pretty bad. Not sure where he's going with it. Does he think it makes him tough to associate with that or something? Does he still live with his mom? Can't she take away his phone or something?

Are you doc waffles from detroit?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: yourbreakfsat on November 11, 2022, 03:15:08 PM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1040766074125307985/Title_red.png)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: formula420 on November 11, 2022, 03:15:19 PM
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using your cousin’s murder sentence to try to sell skateboards is one of the most repulsive things i’ve ever seen. a person who could use someone they purportedly love’s loss of freedom for financial gain does not possess human empathy
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yeah, that has been pretty bad. Not sure where he's going with it. Does he think it makes him tough to associate with that or something? Does he still live with his mom? Can't she take away his phone or something?

Are you doc waffles from detroit?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on November 11, 2022, 03:19:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/J1rgkHM.jpg)

Can you do one where’s he wearing a cape made from dorito chip? Please and thank you
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 11, 2022, 03:52:56 PM
using your cousin’s murder sentence to try to sell skateboards is one of the most repulsive things i’ve ever seen. a person who could use someone they purportedly love’s loss of freedom for financial gain does not possess human empathy

Truly disgusting. Using a murder for clout. Shameful shit
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dannyprovolone on November 11, 2022, 04:00:57 PM
i need one in cool ranch
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on November 11, 2022, 05:22:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/J1rgkHM.jpg)

Holy fuck haha !!!!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Esmith5488 on November 11, 2022, 06:07:28 PM
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Dude, there was more than 34 people in pitcrew when krooked 3d premiered
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gnar'd for pitcrew (RIP) reference.

Embark seems to be doing well.
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I don’t think pitcrew should be in the same thread as Mikey Alfred, but here we are lol. Isn’t at least one of the same guys doing Embark now?
Yeah Brent is doing it and embark seems to be holding it down pretty well. I’ll order online since it’s about an hour away
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rickdizzo on November 11, 2022, 06:48:26 PM
the fact posting the murder thing in his stupid ugly 5 year old crayon font is beyond disgusting. also posting logan’s moms texts is a dick move to say the least, “maybe he should be what he want to portray” you gave him the weed in the first place!!!!!. great job “big bro”.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: thebacker on November 11, 2022, 06:49:09 PM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1040766074125307985/Title_red.png)
You win
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on November 11, 2022, 07:24:21 PM
the fact posting the murder thing in his stupid ugly 5 year old crayon font is beyond disgusting. also posting logan’s moms texts is a dick move to say the least, “maybe he should be what he want to portray” you gave him the weed in the first place!!!!!. great job “big bro”.

On a positive note his dirtbag cousin will probably never make it out of prison to see what a pussy Mikey is in real life, and how literally noone in the industry respects him
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on November 11, 2022, 11:10:17 PM
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(https://i.imgur.com/J1rgkHM.jpg)
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Can you do one where’s he wearing a cape made from dorito chip? Please and thank you

(https://i.imgur.com/ymbPpbX.jpg)

Mikey's favorite flavor of Doritos is Nacho Nepotism
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dark Knight on November 12, 2022, 02:14:02 AM
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(https://i.imgur.com/J1rgkHM.jpg)
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Can you do one where’s he wearing a cape made from dorito chip? Please and thank you
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(https://i.imgur.com/ymbPpbX.jpg)

Mikey's favorite flavor of Doritos is Nacho Nepotism

I love you guys hahaha
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 12, 2022, 05:02:35 AM
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(https://i.imgur.com/J1rgkHM.jpg)
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Can you do one where’s he wearing a cape made from dorito chip? Please and thank you
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(https://i.imgur.com/ymbPpbX.jpg)

Mikey's favorite flavor of Doritos is Nacho Nepotism
I think it’s Private SCool Ranch
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: douchenozzle on November 12, 2022, 07:23:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/AmylNsa.jpg)
blessed be
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dark Knight on November 12, 2022, 07:52:36 AM
Yo, Mikey’s done dude. That’s what you get, playboy.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on November 12, 2022, 08:16:44 AM
Tyshawn was right.

(https://i.imgur.com/BAXZ779.png)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Fartknocker415 on November 12, 2022, 08:57:36 AM
It literally just feels like he is using his cousins murder charge and jail stuff to create some sort of feel, but I also think he’s using it to like flex and scare some of the kids he took advantage of. Cuz how have we not really seen him push this so hard until now ? He’s trying to seem “hard” and authentic hood, instead of the privilege lil man he is. Gotta use his cousins street cred lmao. LA is full of these rich kids who have a cousin who bangs so then they claim a set when it’s convenient
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dark Knight on November 12, 2022, 09:04:46 AM
That’s a thing there.

I’m a suburban, cul de sac guy.  But my family is from south central LA. I’d be all up in the hood on the weekends and would see the craziest shit, never ever claimed shit.  My dad went to high school with Tookie Williams, the creator of The Crips. My cousin still gets crip cakes for her birthday and she’s almost 60
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dannyprovolone on November 12, 2022, 09:23:17 AM
That’s a thing there.

I’m a suburban, cul de sac guy.  But my family is from south central LA. I’d be all up in the hood on the weekends and would see the craziest shit, never ever claimed shit.  My dad went to high school with Tookie Williams, the creator of The Crips. My cousin still gets crip cakes for her birthday and she’s almost 60

ok pete
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: cky enthusiast on November 12, 2022, 10:20:22 AM
lmaooo u dudes need to chill with having pete on the brain constantly, he’s not from cali
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fongool on November 12, 2022, 10:29:16 AM
Tyshawn has set the precedent now -- sidequests involving eradicating kooks from the industry will be an integral part of any SOTY campaign from here on out
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 12, 2022, 02:14:54 PM
Tyshawn has set the precedent now -- sidequests involving eradicating kooks from the industry will be an integral part of any SOTY campaign from here on out

Louie should push Aaron kyro down a flight of stairs to solidify his case
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 12, 2022, 02:40:53 PM
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Tyshawn has set the precedent now -- sidequests involving eradicating kooks from the industry will be an integral part of any SOTY campaign from here on out
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Louie should push Aaron kyro down a flight of stairs to solidify his case
Then T-Funk will hold Burberry ery down and carve a swastika on his forehead. Inglorious Basterds style.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Fongstarr. on November 13, 2022, 02:33:32 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck6ec9kuEJ6/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 13, 2022, 02:57:00 PM
I bet you he doesn’t address it at all or just repeats what he said from the Jenkem interview
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 13, 2022, 05:14:56 PM
I bet you he doesn’t address it at all or just repeats what he said from the Jenkem interview

I thought the same. There's no way they dig deep enough to touch on anything meaningful.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Phao Lo on November 13, 2022, 06:47:02 PM
Nakel Smith speaks on Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ.

https://youtu.be/zxNyPs5aQbQ
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: LUGR on November 13, 2022, 07:11:40 PM
Nakel Smith speaks on Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ.

https://youtu.be/zxNyPs5aQbQ
That was deep and thought provoking.

Wait, wut?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sprained_ankle on November 13, 2022, 09:30:28 PM
Nakel Smith speaks on Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ.

https://youtu.be/zxNyPs5aQbQ

made me like Nak a little more
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on November 14, 2022, 03:58:58 AM
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Nakel Smith speaks on Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ.

https://youtu.be/zxNyPs5aQbQ
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made me like Nak a little more

It does sound like he wants to stay neutral and out of it all which i respect, clearly you dont want to get on this guys bad side

(https://i.imgur.com/ymbPpbX.jpg)


Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: bluntfullofmid on November 14, 2022, 06:21:02 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck6ec9kuEJ6/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
9 Club isnt spicy enough to tap into anything relevant going on in skating but I will give this a listen
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dannyprovolone on November 14, 2022, 06:23:54 AM
nakteen playing both sides of the fence. interesting tactic.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: 1080isthebeststunt on November 14, 2022, 06:28:07 AM
mikey is an idiot but now after all they did together to talk bad about him on one of the biggest platforms skateboarding has just so some complete strangers can hate mikey the right way seems like a total dick move.

ive liked the old ic team even though not everything they did was cool to me.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Showerface on November 14, 2022, 06:42:17 AM
Confused old man over here - am I right in saying the filmer Dorito Boy hired to film the IC video has quit and is releasing his own video with the footage called 700k? If so, that's fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on November 14, 2022, 06:49:59 AM
It’s funny how Nak like I ain’t trying be involved or say anything blah blah blah. But didn’t he shit talk Lottie’s on the gram?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on November 14, 2022, 07:04:14 AM
It’s funny how Nak like I ain’t trying be involved or say anything blah blah blah. But didn’t he shit talk Lottie’s on the gram?

wait... Nak doesnt make that much sense? crazy.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: wheelchair skitch on November 14, 2022, 07:18:52 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck6ec9kuEJ6/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I'm not following whats happening, did everyone quit illegal civilization?

If so I hope this will be the last we see of Reggie White.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on November 14, 2022, 07:34:53 AM
Confused old man over here - am I right in saying the filmer Dorito Boy hired to film the IC video has quit and is releasing his own video with the footage called 700k? If so, that's fucking hilarious.

Yup. That’s exactly what’s happening lol
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on November 14, 2022, 11:15:27 AM
I bet you he doesn’t address it at all or just repeats what he said from the Jenkem interview

I mean at this point he's probably embarrassed to be associated with it and has nothing else to say
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GAY on November 14, 2022, 12:31:17 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck6ec9kuEJ6/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

The Nine Club tagline sounds like something Susan in Marketing would come up with.

I think they should change it to "The Show That Has Skaters Wagging Their Tongues Like Clucking Hens".
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Punished Skateboards on November 14, 2022, 08:44:10 PM
1:37:45

https://youtu.be/Ub6pVMNHHng
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lowcalcium on November 14, 2022, 08:46:28 PM
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The Nine Club tagline sounds like something Susan in Marketing would come up with.

I think they should change it to "The Show That Has Skaters Wagging Their Tongues Like Clucking Hens".

“Nine Club the show older heads don’t want to listen to, but hope younguns explain the juicy bits”
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: too fakie on November 14, 2022, 10:43:23 PM
1:37:45

https://youtu.be/Ub6pVMNHHng

Textbook “Nice Club.” How can you observe Mikey’s behavior and give him any benefit of the doubt?

Even all this current shit aside, remember when he went out of his way to call out Spike? That doesn’t make Crob and Jeron a little skeptical? They don’t at least wanna say “Hey that was weird when he did that. Spike’s our guy.”
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on November 15, 2022, 05:37:06 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck6ec9kuEJ6/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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The Nine Club tagline sounds like something Susan in Marketing would come up with.

I think they should change it to "The Show That Has Skaters Wagging Their Tongues Like Clucking Hens".
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“Nine Club the show older heads don’t want to listen to, but hope younguns explain the juicy bits”

Juicy bits? Nine club is like a desert.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 15, 2022, 09:02:01 AM

Even all this current shit aside, remember when he went out of his way to call out Spike? That doesn’t make Crob and Jeron a little skeptical? They don’t at least wanna say “Hey that was weird when he did that. Spike’s our guy.”

That would require crob to have an interesting opinion
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Allen. on November 15, 2022, 09:06:26 AM
mikey is an idiot but now after all they did together to talk bad about him on one of the biggest platforms skateboarding has just so some complete strangers can hate mikey the right way seems like a total dick move.

What?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: baggy spandex on November 15, 2022, 10:00:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/AmylNsa.jpg)

Mikey Offred
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Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 15, 2022, 10:02:07 AM
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Mikey Offred


Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on November 15, 2022, 10:23:04 AM
mikey is an idiot but now after all they did together to talk bad about him on one of the biggest platforms skateboarding has just so some complete strangers can hate mikey the right way seems like a total dick move.

ive liked the old ic team even though not everything they did was cool to me.

He pretty much did the opposite. Said he appreciated what he did for him including helping him get on Adidas  but didn’t want to be in the middle between Mikey and his friends so he left. They actually did kinda press him to talk about it, and when it seemed like he gave an answer Jeron kept going and asked him more about it which seemed to make him uncomfortable. There you have it, that’s it in a nutshell..
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Post by: Lou Strux on November 15, 2022, 11:03:47 AM
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Even all this current shit aside, remember when he went out of his way to call out Spike? That doesn’t make Crob and Jeron a little skeptical? They don’t at least wanna say “Hey that was weird when he did that. Spike’s our guy.”
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That would require crob to have an interesting opinion of some sort
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Beeda Weeda on November 15, 2022, 11:40:32 AM
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Mikey Offred

amazing Photoshop and amazing comment.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 15, 2022, 12:14:01 PM
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The Nine Club tagline sounds like something Susan in Marketing would come up with.

I think they should change it to "The Show That Has Skaters Wagging Their Tongues Like Clucking Hens".

aka Crob, who matches this hypothetical Susan’s depth and interest in skating pretty well
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: tonyhawksmanywives on November 15, 2022, 01:37:06 PM
I said it before but I got $5 to pitch for a ticket to anyone who goes and provides live updates. Come on pals, we need autopsy reports from this train wreck of a brand.

If enough people pitch in I will call off work and go to the premiere and boo the entire video and personally tell mikey hes a bitch
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sprained_ankle on November 15, 2022, 01:55:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/NUQm9cQ.png)

hmmmm...
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 15, 2022, 02:09:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/NUQm9cQ.png)

hmmmm...

(https://www.books4school.com/images/product/9780008240042-X4.jpg)

I'm glad Mikey is bravely taking up the issue of reparations for plain belly sneetches with his powerful art.
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 15, 2022, 02:24:36 PM
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hmmmm...
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(https://www.books4school.com/images/product/9780008240042-X4.jpg)

I'm glad Mikey is bravely taking up the issue of reparations for plain belly sneetches with his powerful art.

I’m sorry but he’s advocating for REPERATIONS like he’s some kind of bizarro Gonz who can’t skate, can’t draw, but still can’t spell (intentionality up for debate)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Fartknocker415 on November 15, 2022, 02:27:32 PM
Ima buy that board for the wall
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 15, 2022, 02:52:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/NUQm9cQ.png)

hmmmm...

Perhaps I'm an asshole for this, but I really do enjoy watching Mikey go through his BS publicly. He really didn't have to put that sad boi shit on the description like that. Either way, I'm here for it. Keep it coming

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Underpressureflips on November 15, 2022, 04:47:13 PM
I like how Mikey is humble enough to not even mention the burgers he paid for in that board description. He’s learning and growing. We all are.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 15, 2022, 05:06:52 PM
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mikey is an idiot but now after all they did together to talk bad about him on one of the biggest platforms skateboarding has just so some complete strangers can hate mikey the right way seems like a total dick move.

ive liked the old ic team even though not everything they did was cool to me.
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He pretty much did the opposite. Said he appreciated what he did for him including helping him get on Adidas  but didn’t want to be in the middle between Mikey and his friends so he left. They actually did kinda press him to talk about it, and when it seemed like he gave an answer Jeron kept going and asked him more about it which seemed to make him uncomfortable. There you have it, that’s it in a nutshell..

Glad to hear they actually tried. When was the last time anything remotely spicy was discussed on the nine club? The Austyn episode?

Edit: lol Jeron was like "did you try to talk sense to Mikey?" That's what's up
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Post by: manysnakes on November 15, 2022, 08:32:01 PM
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mikey is an idiot but now after all they did together to talk bad about him on one of the biggest platforms skateboarding has just so some complete strangers can hate mikey the right way seems like a total dick move.

ive liked the old ic team even though not everything they did was cool to me.
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He pretty much did the opposite. Said he appreciated what he did for him including helping him get on Adidas  but didn’t want to be in the middle between Mikey and his friends so he left. They actually did kinda press him to talk about it, and when it seemed like he gave an answer Jeron kept going and asked him more about it which seemed to make him uncomfortable. There you have it, that’s it in a nutshell..
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Glad to hear they actually tried. When was the last time anything remotely spicy was discussed on the nine club? The Austyn episode?

Mark Oblow excusing and dramatically underplaying the rape and murder committed by his friend Gator. Only spicy because people noticed.
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mikey is an idiot but now after all they did together to talk bad about him on one of the biggest platforms skateboarding has just so some complete strangers can hate mikey the right way seems like a total dick move.

ive liked the old ic team even though not everything they did was cool to me.
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He pretty much did the opposite. Said he appreciated what he did for him including helping him get on Adidas  but didn’t want to be in the middle between Mikey and his friends so he left. They actually did kinda press him to talk about it, and when it seemed like he gave an answer Jeron kept going and asked him more about it which seemed to make him uncomfortable. There you have it, that’s it in a nutshell..
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Glad to hear they actually tried. When was the last time anything remotely spicy was discussed on the nine club? The Austyn episode?
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Mark Oblow excusing and dramatically underplaying the rape and murder committed by his friend Gator. Only spicy because people noticed.

Ah that's right. I hope everyone at the nine club listens to all the criticism they get going forward. I appreciate they tried to push on the IC situation but we'll see how things go
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: E on November 16, 2022, 09:21:46 AM
So those two mostly white boards on the Illegal Civ shop have to be the old "pro" boards that Mikey publicly stated they will be sanding off the graphics and re-doing, this shit just keeps getting better.
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Post by: manysnakes on November 16, 2022, 09:23:15 AM
I don't know about you guys, but I'm in the market for a 6 & 1/2 ply maple deck so I've got my eyes on IC.
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Post by: TwisT on November 16, 2022, 09:42:07 AM
I don't know about you guys, but I'm in the market for a 6 & 1/2 ply maple deck so I've got my eyes on IC.

It'd be to much work to sand hundreds or thousands of boards. If anything They'd print over it. In the case of this graphic they'd probably have to print a blank white transfer first, so that the old graphic wouldn't come through.

I remember reading on the old skateboard.com forums, that the first run of PlanB boards had the INC simpsons style graphics under them

Anyway. If he really had thousands of boards laying around. Why was the online store empty before all this drama?
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Post by: fs1/2cab on November 16, 2022, 11:06:07 AM
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm in the market for a 6 & 1/2 ply maple deck so I've got my eyes on IC.
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It'd be to much work to sand hundreds or thousands of boards. If anything They'd print over it. In the case of this graphic they'd probably have to print a blank white transfer first, so that the old graphic wouldn't come through.

I remember reading on the old skateboard.com forums, that the first run of PlanB boards had the INC simpsons style graphics under them

Anyway. If he really had thousands of boards laying around. Why was the online store empty before all this drama?

Maybe he bought them all by himself. With a different credit card. Or he used that "new" marketing technique, where they say sold out to imply some sort of scarcity.

Either way, my popcorn is ready and I am curious how this saga will end. Sorry, I am a bad boy sometimes.
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Post by: dannyprovolone on November 16, 2022, 11:12:14 AM
hmm....sanded or not i still might cop one before a skateboard kings deck
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Post by: augustmoon on November 16, 2022, 01:14:46 PM
yall think this guy is actually gonna have his premiere?  or are we gonna get a "illegal civ is no more" post on the morning of?
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Post by: E on November 16, 2022, 01:42:37 PM
We should start taking bets in this thread. I put my money on the premiere happening.
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Post by: LB on November 16, 2022, 01:51:08 PM
the premiere WILL happen.  34 people have tickets.  but venues changed to his mums house.
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Post by: HaveFunSkateboarding on November 16, 2022, 02:32:32 PM
Browsing Depop.

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Post by: HaveFunSkateboarding on November 16, 2022, 02:33:16 PM
Also, from the same seller.

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Post by: HaveFunSkateboarding on November 16, 2022, 02:33:49 PM
And this.

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Post by: Dr Waffles on November 16, 2022, 05:08:15 PM
Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 16, 2022, 05:15:20 PM
“When you see the video, you’ll understand why they hating” is not quite the flex he thinks it is.

Also, has he always had that goonie smile?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on November 16, 2022, 05:54:12 PM
Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol

Mikey Epstein really trying to pull every card in the victimhood deck on the former team, why would anyone try to get on IC now after seeing how he does business

“You left the team now give me your paychecks back” lmao this kid is deluded beyond helping, no wonder Nak doesn’t even bother trying to reason with him and just watches him implode from the sidelines

You can tell he’s a rich brat who’s been handed everything and never been held accountable for anything in his life, and he’s getting the rudest of awakenings that his parents money can’t buy his way out of this time

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Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on November 16, 2022, 05:55:41 PM
Damn. He's totally gonna lose the deposit on that magician.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on November 16, 2022, 05:58:03 PM
Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol

(https://i.imgur.com/2GWJdZa.png)
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also calling him a "woman beater" for fighting a homeless woman that punched in their window

not that it's necessarily okay, but you guys get the idea - Mikey's reaching

*edit - now that i see how Mikey reacts with his friendships & various relationships, it seems like every relationship is purely transactional to him
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: augustmoon on November 16, 2022, 06:00:27 PM
Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol

dude really went out of his way to not talk shit on his Nine Club interview, and this is the thanks he gets
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: djsmoothnuts on November 16, 2022, 06:01:24 PM
Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol

that’s crazy because kevin was nothing but respectful on the nine club when they asked about michael alfredo
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fistful0dynamite on November 16, 2022, 06:02:20 PM
What the fuck does Hannah tallman have to do with this?
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Post by: jakeumms on November 16, 2022, 06:02:46 PM
Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it
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Post by: augustmoon on November 16, 2022, 06:07:14 PM
Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it

nah, you're right.  thats the look of a narcissist/sociopath trying to hold it together when the mask starts to crack and they know they're fucked. 

"narcissistic injury"
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Post by: sus on November 16, 2022, 06:09:51 PM
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Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it
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nah, you're right.  thats the look of a narcissist/sociopath trying to hold it together when the mask starts to crack and they know they're fucked. 

"narcissistic injury"

don't think TK was a narcissist/sociopath. he definitely had a few loose screws but seemed to be suffering from bipolar disorder amongst other issues
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Post by: thingsthingsthings on November 16, 2022, 06:11:37 PM
What the fuck does Hannah tallman have to do with this?

hahah she has no idea either. this is all over the place

(https://i.imgur.com/OeURybM.jpg)
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Post by: augustmoon on November 16, 2022, 06:12:17 PM
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Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it
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nah, you're right.  thats the look of a narcissist/sociopath trying to hold it together when the mask starts to crack and they know they're fucked. 

"narcissistic injury"
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don't think TK was a narcissist/sociopath. he definitely had a few loose screws but seemed to be suffering from bipolar disorder amongst other issues

i think TK probably had some level of Schizophrenia, but these traits often overlap. 
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: larry sanders on November 16, 2022, 06:12:37 PM
Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it

I’m with you.

Mikey’s a kook who needs to figure some stuff out, his company is dead, people should stop piling on, no need to hit him when he’s already down for the count
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Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 16, 2022, 07:10:33 PM
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Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it
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I’m with you.

Mikey’s a kook who needs to figure some stuff out, his company is dead, people should stop piling on, no need to hit him when he’s already down for the count
The dude is actively trying to ruin multiple peoples
skate careers with made up claims of racism and going as far as to call one a nazi with zero evidence to back it up. It goes a hell of a lot further than needing to “figure some stuff out”.  He’s just a culture vulture of the highest order and deserves every bit of flack he’s getting.
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Post by: larry sanders on November 16, 2022, 07:26:34 PM
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Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it
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I’m with you.

Mikey’s a kook who needs to figure some stuff out, his company is dead, people should stop piling on, no need to hit him when he’s already down for the count
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The dude is actively trying to ruin multiple peoples
skate careers with made up claims of racism and going as far as to call one a nazi with zero evidence to back it up. It goes a hell of a lot further than needing to “figure some stuff out”.  He’s just a culture vulture of the highest order and deserves every bit of flack he’s getting.

he’s digging his own grave. No one is taking his attempts to ruin other peoples careers even the slightest bit seriously. There’s no need to keep going at this point
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Post by: 323-BALM on November 16, 2022, 07:31:00 PM
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Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it
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I’m with you.

Mikey’s a kook who needs to figure some stuff out, his company is dead, people should stop piling on, no need to hit him when he’s already down for the count
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The dude is actively trying to ruin multiple peoples
skate careers with made up claims of racism and going as far as to call one a nazi with zero evidence to back it up. It goes a hell of a lot further than needing to “figure some stuff out”.  He’s just a culture vulture of the highest order and deserves every bit of flack he’s getting.
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he’s digging his own grave. No one is taking his attempts to ruin other peoples careers even the slightest bit seriously. There’s no need to keep going at this point

No way. That’s how we got Donald Trump as President. Believe these dudes when the tell you who they are.
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Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 16, 2022, 07:44:17 PM
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Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it
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I’m with you.

Mikey’s a kook who needs to figure some stuff out, his company is dead, people should stop piling on, no need to hit him when he’s already down for the count
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The dude is actively trying to ruin multiple peoples
skate careers with made up claims of racism and going as far as to call one a nazi with zero evidence to back it up. It goes a hell of a lot further than needing to “figure some stuff out”.  He’s just a culture vulture of the highest order and deserves every bit of flack he’s getting.
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he’s digging his own grave. No one is taking his attempts to ruin other peoples careers even the slightest bit seriously. There’s no need to keep going at this point
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No way. That’s how we got Donald Trump as President. Believe these dudes when the tell you who they are.
Exactly. Not holding people accountable for their shitty behavior isn’t a deterrent, it just emboldens them.
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Post by: TwisT on November 16, 2022, 07:56:46 PM
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Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it
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I’m with you.

Mikey’s a kook who needs to figure some stuff out, his company is dead, people should stop piling on, no need to hit him when he’s already down for the count
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The dude is actively trying to ruin multiple peoples
skate careers with made up claims of racism and going as far as to call one a nazi with zero evidence to back it up. It goes a hell of a lot further than needing to “figure some stuff out”.  He’s just a culture vulture of the highest order and deserves every bit of flack he’s getting.
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he’s digging his own grave. No one is taking his attempts to ruin other peoples careers even the slightest bit seriously. There’s no need to keep going at this point
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No way. That’s how we got Donald Trump as President. Believe these dudes when the tell you who they are.
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Exactly. Not holding people accountable for their shitty behavior isn’t a deterrent, it just emboldens them.

To be fair, posting about it on slap isn’t holding anyone responsible.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: larry sanders on November 16, 2022, 07:58:56 PM
he’s a complete joke, his company is dead, he’ll never be able to regain credibility in the skate world and his attempt at being a filmmaker was a total flop, what other ‘accountability’ do people want?

Don’t get me wrong I think he deserves all that has come to him, I just don’t see the point in piling on further
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on November 16, 2022, 08:08:01 PM
Imagine trying to absolutely destroy the one dude that never slandered your name whatsoever when he is the one that has most room to say anything at all. You sway a guy away from one of the sickest companies with a way better look and team than the delusional brainchild of a “board company” you wanted to start. You ruin his image a little with your childish meltdown on the internet and he goes to one of skateboardings biggest platforms right now and does nothing but give you endless props time and time again for everything when he could’ve just glossed over it and said it was all him. I don’t ever seriously wish hardship on people, but this could be the exception.
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Post by: shouldn't on November 16, 2022, 08:08:38 PM
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Gonna get some hate on this maybe but I feel like I've seen that same vacant smile on TK's face when he was starting to lose it
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I’m with you.

Mikey’s a kook who needs to figure some stuff out, his company is dead, people should stop piling on, no need to hit him when he’s already down for the count
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The dude is actively trying to ruin multiple peoples
skate careers with made up claims of racism and going as far as to call one a nazi with zero evidence to back it up. It goes a hell of a lot further than needing to “figure some stuff out”.  He’s just a culture vulture of the highest order and deserves every bit of flack he’s getting.
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he’s digging his own grave. No one is taking his attempts to ruin other peoples careers even the slightest bit seriously. There’s no need to keep going at this point
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No way. That’s how we got Donald Trump as President. Believe these dudes when the tell you who they are.
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Exactly. Not holding people accountable for their shitty behavior isn’t a deterrent, it just emboldens them.
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To be fair, posting about it on slap isn’t holding anyone responsible.
don’t discredit the power of slap. look what happened to jason jesse. i think this is all very well covered though at the same time, nobody is digging through old magazines to have to find the evidence here.
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Post by: Mean salto on November 16, 2022, 09:00:50 PM
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hahah she has no idea either. this is all over the place

(https://i.imgur.com/OeURybM.jpg)
Has he just decided this random woman is Hannah tallman? Or does anyone know what person Kevin was defending in comments and Mikey's just had a brain fart and called them Hannah tallman
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SLAPASONIC on November 16, 2022, 09:37:04 PM
Aight I’m gonna play devils advocate.

Mikey is terribly troubled and the people that were close to him for extended periods know this. Gary, Kevin, even Nak, they’re not actively defending Mikey but they’re not talking ill about him either. Gary seemed like he really didn’t want to touch on Mikey, and I think that’s due to them knowing that Mikey is possibly ill or mentally unstable.

I hate Mikey too, I’ve disliked everything he’s put his face on, but to me this reminds me of a TK situation where the internet isn’t helping. Mikey needs close friends or family to call him out and suggest he logs off social media and work on his mental well being, you see people on this thread questioning his mental state too, but we’re all finding his demise to be entertainment and offering nothing positive to the situation. Remember what happened to TK and the guilty conscience Slap felt for possibly being an influence over TK’s demise.

As much as I find Mikey insufferable, I think it’s reached a point where I see a sick man in demise. Guy needs help before something tragic happens again.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on November 16, 2022, 10:38:20 PM
Aight I’m gonna play devils advocate.

Mikey is terribly troubled and the people that were close to him for extended periods know this. Gary, Kevin, even Nak, they’re not actively defending Mikey but they’re not talking ill about him either. Gary seemed like he really didn’t want to touch on Mikey, and I think that’s due to them knowing that Mikey is possibly ill or mentally unstable.

I hate Mikey too, I’ve disliked everything he’s put his face on, but to me this reminds me of a TK situation where the internet isn’t helping. Mikey needs close friends or family to call him out and suggest he logs off social media and work on his mental well being, you see people on this thread questioning his mental state too, but we’re all finding his demise to be entertainment and offering nothing positive to the situation. Remember what happened to TK and the guilty conscience Slap felt for possibly being an influence over TK’s demise.

As much as I find Mikey insufferable, I think it’s reached a point where I see a sick man in demise. Guy needs help before something tragic happens again.
his ego is affecting his mental state and your ego won’t allow anyone to tell you what to do. Kwhite was so nice with his words about him and still got bad mouthed. He needs a spanking from his mom if anything and I’m not being funny
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Post by: grassblade on November 16, 2022, 10:59:51 PM
the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 16, 2022, 11:12:58 PM
Aight I’m gonna play devils advocate.

Mikey is terribly troubled and the people that were close to him for extended periods know this. Gary, Kevin, even Nak, they’re not actively defending Mikey but they’re not talking ill about him either. Gary seemed like he really didn’t want to touch on Mikey, and I think that’s due to them knowing that Mikey is possibly ill or mentally unstable.

I hate Mikey too, I’ve disliked everything he’s put his face on, but to me this reminds me of a TK situation where the internet isn’t helping. Mikey needs close friends or family to call him out and suggest he logs off social media and work on his mental well being, you see people on this thread questioning his mental state too, but we’re all finding his demise to be entertainment and offering nothing positive to the situation. Remember what happened to TK and the guilty conscience Slap felt for possibly being an influence over TK’s demise.

As much as I find Mikey insufferable, I think it’s reached a point where I see a sick man in demise. Guy needs help before something tragic happens again.


I don’t think it has gone to the point of troubling yet.   He’s trying to rally his flailing brand through a few IG stories.   He hasn’t really gone into manic behavior or anything like that (in his online behavior or Jenkem interview) to give me pause. 

Being a twat isn’t in the DSM-V
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Post by: thespacewolf on November 16, 2022, 11:32:48 PM
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Post by: radcunt on November 17, 2022, 03:35:49 AM
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Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol
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Mikey Epstein really trying to pull every card in the victimhood deck on the former team, why would anyone try to get on IC now after seeing how he does business

“You left the team now give me your paychecks back” lmao this kid is deluded beyond helping, no wonder Nak doesn’t even bother trying to reason with him and just watches him implode from the sidelines

You can tell he’s a rich brat who’s been handed everything and never been held accountable for anything in his life, and he’s getting the rudest of awakenings that his parents money can’t buy his way out of this time


We’ll, it’s not like he’s ever gonna have to work or anything.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: No Wave Comply on November 17, 2022, 03:58:12 AM
Aight I’m gonna play devils advocate.

Mikey is terribly troubled and the people that were close to him for extended periods know this. Gary, Kevin, even Nak, they’re not actively defending Mikey but they’re not talking ill about him either. Gary seemed like he really didn’t want to touch on Mikey, and I think that’s due to them knowing that Mikey is possibly ill or mentally unstable.

I hate Mikey too, I’ve disliked everything he’s put his face on, but to me this reminds me of a TK situation where the internet isn’t helping. Mikey needs close friends or family to call him out and suggest he logs off social media and work on his mental well being, you see people on this thread questioning his mental state too, but we’re all finding his demise to be entertainment and offering nothing positive to the situation. Remember what happened to TK and the guilty conscience Slap felt for possibly being an influence over TK’s demise.

As much as I find Mikey insufferable, I think it’s reached a point where I see a sick man in demise. Guy needs help before something tragic happens again.

Nope. Dude did (and is doing) it to himself. He's not some beloved figure in skateboarding; he doesn't even skate. Slap laying off or giving him a pass won't pull him out of the hole he's dug for himself, nor make it deeper. You're giving him way too much sympathy and assuming that if he wasn't "sick" that he'd somehow be sensible, humble, and business savvy. He doesn't have mental issues, he's just a delusional narcissist and kook who's incapable of self-reflection and growth. Can't reform that.
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Post by: vinithebr on November 17, 2022, 06:53:19 AM
My god, I am such a petty bitch for reveling in this, but you can’t buy this sort of drama for silver or gold, and I fucking looove it.
This thread keeps giving & giving.
(https://i.ibb.co/xhwwLwt/The-Tyshawn-Tree.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gyQQ9QL)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on November 17, 2022, 07:22:35 AM
Mijey algreedo deserves everything he’s getting plus some. I’m shocked he hasn’t gotten his yuppie ass beat for running his mouth. Dude was a culture vulture and it’s becoming obvious to all those that was blind. Fuck him he doesn’t have mental issues he’s just a spoiled cunt.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 17, 2022, 07:58:06 AM
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Aight I’m gonna play devils advocate.

Mikey is terribly troubled and the people that were close to him for extended periods know this. Gary, Kevin, even Nak, they’re not actively defending Mikey but they’re not talking ill about him either. Gary seemed like he really didn’t want to touch on Mikey, and I think that’s due to them knowing that Mikey is possibly ill or mentally unstable.

I hate Mikey too, I’ve disliked everything he’s put his face on, but to me this reminds me of a TK situation where the internet isn’t helping. Mikey needs close friends or family to call him out and suggest he logs off social media and work on his mental well being, you see people on this thread questioning his mental state too, but we’re all finding his demise to be entertainment and offering nothing positive to the situation. Remember what happened to TK and the guilty conscience Slap felt for possibly being an influence over TK’s demise.

As much as I find Mikey insufferable, I think it’s reached a point where I see a sick man in demise. Guy needs help before something tragic happens again.
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Nope. Dude did (and is doing) it to himself. He's not some beloved figure in skateboarding; he doesn't even skate. Slap laying off or giving him a pass won't pull him out of the hole he's dug for himself, nor make it deeper. You're giving him way too much sympathy and assuming that if he wasn't "sick" that he'd somehow be sensible, humble, and business savvy. He doesn't have mental issues, he's just a delusional narcissist and kook who's incapable of self-reflection and growth. Can't reform that.

Although I absolutely agree with @SLAPASONIC
I also fail to see how Mikey has some mental health issues. It seems he's just a narcissist kook and is mad he doesn't get everything handed to him.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dark Knight on November 17, 2022, 08:56:24 AM
Only thing positive about this is that I found out who Hannah Tallman is. She rips
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Post by: Murge on November 17, 2022, 09:06:43 AM
Only thing positive about this is that I found out who Hannah Tallman is. She rips

Just looked her up on insta. She does rip. Now following.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fistful0dynamite on November 17, 2022, 10:17:15 AM
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Only thing positive about this is that I found out who Hannah Tallman is. She rips
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Just looked her up on insta. She does rip. Now following.

Go watch her bluebird part
https://youtu.be/e6dsa8OfVD8
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Fongstarr. on November 17, 2022, 11:34:51 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClEnrvOKz9I/
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rohn_mob_joore on November 17, 2022, 11:50:01 AM
Funny how Mikey acts like Jumpman owes him because he “put him in mid90s” when Spike and Jonah were the ones that chose to work with Mikey in the first place and he then talks shit on the nine club about them. Where’s the gratitude? Mid90s prob contributes to %75 of people hearing about IC. Mikey’s an entitled dork.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Vegeta on November 17, 2022, 11:52:26 AM
Only thing positive about this is that I found out who Hannah Tallman is. She rips
I still dont get what the fuck she has to do with this… did he confuse that blonde homeless woman in his stories with hanna?lmfao.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rohn_mob_joore on November 17, 2022, 11:55:42 AM
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I still dont get what the fuck she has to do with this… did he confuse that blonde homeless woman in his stories with hanna?lmfao.

I think he might be confusing her with that one woman skater that was accused of transphobia for hating on trans skaters competing. Only guess of mine 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pbj on November 17, 2022, 12:02:29 PM
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I still dont get what the fuck she has to do with this… did he confuse that blonde homeless woman in his stories with hanna?lmfao.
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I think he might be confusing her with that one woman skater that was accused of transphobia for hating on trans skaters competing. Only guess of mine 🤷‍♂️

Taylor Silverman
that was my guess when I saw Mikey's post too
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 17, 2022, 12:06:20 PM
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I still dont get what the fuck she has to do with this… did he confuse that blonde homeless woman in his stories with hanna?lmfao.
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I think he might be confusing her with that one woman skater that was accused of transphobia for hating on trans skaters competing. Only guess of mine ‍♂️
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Taylor Silverman
that was my guess when I saw Mikey's post too

I think he actually does know who Hannah Tallman is.  She’s on Baker and fairly established in the instagram game.  She (justly) commented some “negative” things on at least one of Illegal Civ’s posts when it started getting all 700K-y.  Guessing Kevin White came to her defense in some way and that rubbed Mikey the wrong way.

It does seem like the subtext with Kevin and Gary etc, is that Mikey is having some mental health struggles, it seems very plain to me his demeanor has shifted though I’m no expert on the matter.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: RichardBarkley on November 17, 2022, 12:58:44 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClEnrvOKz9I/

Getting better I have to say
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on November 17, 2022, 01:29:21 PM
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Only thing positive about this is that I found out who Hannah Tallman is. She rips
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I still dont get what the fuck she has to do with this… did he confuse that blonde homeless woman in his stories with hanna?lmfao.
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I think he might be confusing her with that one woman skater that was accused of transphobia for hating on trans skaters competing. Only guess of mine ‍♂️
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Taylor Silverman
that was my guess when I saw Mikey's post too
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I think he actually does know who Hannah Tallman is.  She’s on Baker and fairly established in the instagram game.  She (justly) commented some “negative” things on at least one of Illegal Civ’s posts when it started getting all 700K-y.  Guessing Kevin White came to her defense in some way and that rubbed Mikey the wrong way.

It does seem like the subtext with Kevin and Gary etc, is that Mikey is having some mental health struggles, it seems very plain to me his demeanor has shifted though I’m no expert on the matter.

I think she left Baker for Krooked, actually.

She has one of the best kickflips I've seen.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TheDingus on November 17, 2022, 01:41:23 PM
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I still dont get what the fuck she has to do with this… did he confuse that blonde homeless woman in his stories with hanna?lmfao.
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I think he might be confusing her with that one woman skater that was accused of transphobia for hating on trans skaters competing. Only guess of mine ‍♂️
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Taylor Silverman
that was my guess when I saw Mikey's post too
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I think he actually does know who Hannah Tallman is.  She’s on Baker and fairly established in the instagram game.  She (justly) commented some “negative” things on at least one of Illegal Civ’s posts when it started getting all 700K-y.  Guessing Kevin White came to her defense in some way and that rubbed Mikey the wrong way.

It does seem like the subtext with Kevin and Gary etc, is that Mikey is having some mental health struggles, it seems very plain to me his demeanor has shifted though I’m no expert on the matter.
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I think she left Baker for Krooked, actually.

She has one of the best kickflips I've seen.

Sounds like you haven’t seen too many kickflips.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: crepes on November 17, 2022, 01:44:53 PM
Hannah has a mobbed ass kickflip. I get the cult of endless stoke and positivity but come on!
I was informed a few weeks ago that the age of humiliating black men for threads was over but it appears I heard wrong.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: thebacker on November 17, 2022, 01:46:48 PM
Mijey algreedo deserves everything he’s getting plus some. I’m shocked he hasn’t gotten his yuppie ass beat for running his mouth. Dude was a culture vulture and it’s becoming obvious to all those that was blind. Fuck him he doesn’t have mental issues he’s just a spoiled cunt.

(http://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/a52e1fb6dae2773b3d98c752daa6a28627066c49/hub/2019/11/12/d8253cd2-87f8-414e-81b7-a174196c040a/greedo-1.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=675&width=1200)

here's an actual depiction of mikey trying to get his 700k
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 17, 2022, 01:59:29 PM
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Getting better I have to say

For sure. My only critique of his skating is that he does go a little slow sometimes.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dark Knight on November 17, 2022, 02:04:24 PM
Hannah has a mobbed ass kickflip. I get the cult of endless stoke and positivity but come on!
I was informed a few weeks ago that the age of humiliating black men for threads was over but it appears I heard wrong.

Her manual kickflips are fire. Only flip tricks I ever did out of a manny were nosemanual nollie heel/flip. Could never get my back foot to ollie out of that postion. Done plenty “in”, but never out
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Cool Ceith on November 17, 2022, 02:06:37 PM
I think it's wrong to assume he has mental health issues—maybe just hyper-narcissistic with poor impulse control.

But people who legitimately suffer from mental health disorders look at Mikey and say, "Damn, that fool's crazy."
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Mandatory Reload on November 17, 2022, 02:10:09 PM
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Only thing positive about this is that I found out who Hannah Tallman is. She rips
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I still dont get what the fuck she has to do with this… did he confuse that blonde homeless woman in his stories with hanna?lmfao.
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I think he might be confusing her with that one woman skater that was accused of transphobia for hating on trans skaters competing. Only guess of mine ‍♂️
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Taylor Silverman
that was my guess when I saw Mikey's post too
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I think he actually does know who Hannah Tallman is.  She’s on Baker and fairly established in the instagram game.  She (justly) commented some “negative” things on at least one of Illegal Civ’s posts when it started getting all 700K-y. Guessing Kevin White came to her defense in some way and that rubbed Mikey the wrong way.

It does seem like the subtext with Kevin and Gary etc, is that Mikey is having some mental health struggles, it seems very plain to me his demeanor has shifted though I’m no expert on the matter.

she commented "IC wack af" on that kid Logan's instagram post of iPhone angles of his clips about Mikey trying to charge him 700k for his footy

so yeah i think this theory is probably correct but I haven't seen any evidence of Kevin publicly coming to her defense. maybe it was something he said in private to Mikey or whatever.

OR Kevin did stick up for Taylor Silverman (transphobic girl) and Mikey got Taylor and Hannah's names mixed up, but I also haven't seen any evidence of Kevin sticking up for Taylor either, so who knows
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: crepes on November 17, 2022, 02:20:21 PM
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Hannah has a mobbed ass kickflip. I get the cult of endless stoke and positivity but come on!
I was informed a few weeks ago that the age of humiliating black men for threads was over but it appears I heard wrong.
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Her manual kickflips are fire. Only flip tricks I ever did out of a manny were nosemanual nollie heel/flip. Could never get my back foot to ollie out of that postion. Done plenty “in”, but never out
I can't do it either but it doesn't make someone else's good. Lot of guys are high tech but not pleasing to the eyes. Was only basing my comment on her doubleset flipper from last instagram post. If she's got em good out of a manual, so be it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DCLOVE on November 17, 2022, 02:34:49 PM
the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten

That won’t fix him but it’s gonna happen. That or he self harms.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BacksideWallride on November 17, 2022, 02:45:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWjzAfvkscQ
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on November 17, 2022, 02:57:40 PM
can’t watch that shit without thinking about this shit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fkmV2LPlPS4
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: vinithebr on November 17, 2022, 03:10:24 PM
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I still dont get what the fuck she has to do with this… did he confuse that blonde homeless woman in his stories with hanna?lmfao.
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I think he might be confusing her with that one woman skater that was accused of transphobia for hating on trans skaters competing. Only guess of mine ‍♂️
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Taylor Silverman
that was my guess when I saw Mikey's post too
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I think he actually does know who Hannah Tallman is.  She’s on Baker and fairly established in the instagram game.  She (justly) commented some “negative” things on at least one of Illegal Civ’s posts when it started getting all 700K-y.  Guessing Kevin White came to her defense in some way and that rubbed Mikey the wrong way.

It does seem like the subtext with Kevin and Gary etc, is that Mikey is having some mental health struggles, it seems very plain to me his demeanor has shifted though I’m no expert on the matter.
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I think she left Baker for Krooked, actually.

She has one of the best kickflips I've seen.
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Sounds like you haven’t seen too many kickflips.

Hannah has a mobbed ass kickflip. I get the cult of endless stoke and positivity but come on!
I was informed a few weeks ago that the age of humiliating black men for threads was over but it appears I heard wrong.

You are crazy if you mean the kickflips in that bluebird part posted, they're pretty good and none were mobbed. I didn't visit her ig though.

edit, I just read that you meant in one specific ig post, eh
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on November 17, 2022, 03:19:23 PM
Can we just say fuck mikey and turn this into a K White appreciation thread
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 17, 2022, 03:23:59 PM
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the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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That won’t fix him but it’s gonna happen. That or he self harms.

I just want someone to beat the knowledge of how to write capital Cs in cursive into him
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: djoekr on November 17, 2022, 03:28:56 PM
can’t watch that shit without thinking about this shit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fkmV2LPlPS4

Doesn't really help that Crob kinda looks like Dennis Reynolds in Chocolate gear.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeapsCool on November 17, 2022, 03:57:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWjzAfvkscQ

Wow that was fucking boring.

I've decided I don't give a sht about any of this.

Some preppy little tryhard having a mental breakdown about not being accepted by Hollywood and blowing the entire IC budget on a feature film. Cry me a river. Next.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lowcalcium on November 17, 2022, 04:05:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWjzAfvkscQ

Just listened myself. Kevin White truly goes out of his way to not slander Mikey any further.

I thought Jeron and Chris did a pretty good job asking certain questions about why Kevin specifically left Illegal Civ—without making it overly gossipy.

Kevin White definitely deserves some appreciation, so I went on YouTube and tried to find some short footage—found this Venture minute. I really liked the 3 trick line at 28 seconds:

https://youtu.be/ETfo5oGglf0
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on November 17, 2022, 04:48:15 PM
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the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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That won’t fix him but it’s gonna happen. That or he self harms.
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I just want someone to beat the knowledge of how to write capital Cs in cursive into him
Illegal Liv and I'm gonna buy a vowel lemme get E
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: LB on November 17, 2022, 04:51:49 PM
GUSSET
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Nature_Table on November 17, 2022, 05:09:22 PM
Aight I’m gonna play devils advocate.

Mikey is terribly troubled and the people that were close to him for extended periods know this. Gary, Kevin, even Nak, they’re not actively defending Mikey but they’re not talking ill about him either. Gary seemed like he really didn’t want to touch on Mikey, and I think that’s due to them knowing that Mikey is possibly ill or mentally unstable.

I hate Mikey too, I’ve disliked everything he’s put his face on, but to me this reminds me of a TK situation where the internet isn’t helping. Mikey needs close friends or family to call him out and suggest he logs off social media and work on his mental well being, you see people on this thread questioning his mental state too, but we’re all finding his demise to be entertainment and offering nothing positive to the situation. Remember what happened to TK and the guilty conscience Slap felt for possibly being an influence over TK’s demise.

As much as I find Mikey insufferable, I think it’s reached a point where I see a sick man in demise. Guy needs help before something tragic happens again.

See, I don’t think that it’s his close homies not wanting to dogpile their friend in a mental health crisis. I think Rhodes closest too him know best how petty and vindictive Mikey can really be. Gary was the first one pressed on it and he gave a total “no comment”. Nakel pretty much the same. Kevin had already left IC saw and had gotten a passive aggressive “don’t sweat it, we good” or whatever the fuck it was text from Mikey, so probably felt he could speak a little more freely.

I get the impression that in his own circle, Mikey probably talks up his industry connections to even more ludicrous proportions. Gary, Nak and Kevin were probably too afraid of the repercussions that speaking out against the boss man would have for them.

I mean, if he’s reacting this badly to Kevin White defending him you can see why the people in his circle aren’t exactly talking shit. In real life, when you’re actually friends with someone, you don’t really  want to burn bridges, even if the person is a complete donkey.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TheDingus on November 17, 2022, 05:12:54 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClFMsFrJtJC/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

This dude is on a Compton police insta account giving boards to children
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: crepes on November 17, 2022, 05:15:12 PM
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Aight I’m gonna play devils advocate.

Mikey is terribly troubled and the people that were close to him for extended periods know this. Gary, Kevin, even Nak, they’re not actively defending Mikey but they’re not talking ill about him either. Gary seemed like he really didn’t want to touch on Mikey, and I think that’s due to them knowing that Mikey is possibly ill or mentally unstable.

I hate Mikey too, I’ve disliked everything he’s put his face on, but to me this reminds me of a TK situation where the internet isn’t helping. Mikey needs close friends or family to call him out and suggest he logs off social media and work on his mental well being, you see people on this thread questioning his mental state too, but we’re all finding his demise to be entertainment and offering nothing positive to the situation. Remember what happened to TK and the guilty conscience Slap felt for possibly being an influence over TK’s demise.

As much as I find Mikey insufferable, I think it’s reached a point where I see a sick man in demise. Guy needs help before something tragic happens again.
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See, I don’t think that it’s his close homies not wanting to dogpile their friend in a mental health crisis. I think Rhodes closest too him know best how petty and vindictive Mikey can really be. Gary was the first one pressed on it and he gave a total “no comment”. Nakel pretty much the same. Kevin had already left IC saw and had gotten a passive aggressive “don’t sweat it, we good” or whatever the fuck it was text from Mikey, so probably felt he could speak a little more freely.

I get the impression that in his own circle, Mikey probably talks up his industry connections to even more ludicrous proportions. Gary, Nak and Kevin were probably too afraid of the repercussions that speaking out against the boss man would have for them.

I mean, if he’s reacting this badly to Kevin White defending him you can see why the people in his circle aren’t exactly talking shit. In real life, when you’re actually friends with someone, you don’t really  want to burn bridges, even if the person is a complete donkey.
Worried about him dragging their name through the instagram mud, maybe. Threw the industry? Nak, Gary at least are more embedded in the industry than Mikey Alfred will ever be. Gary has his sinecure position talking over clips and giving "damn nigga" of the week while Nak is a legit pro [vs an Illegal Civ or Revive pro].
Nobody is getting blackballed for leaving the house of Alfredo.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 17, 2022, 05:16:14 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClFMsFrJtJC/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

This dude is on a Compton police insta account giving boards to children

I guess he couldn’t sand their names off after all
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: backfliptofiftyfifty on November 17, 2022, 06:02:21 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClFMsFrJtJC/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

This dude is on a Compton police insta account giving boards to children

💀 so much for illegal civilization
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 17, 2022, 06:32:26 PM
Teaming up with the sheriffs? After all his bragging about being cousins with a shooter?
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Post by: FatGuy92 on November 17, 2022, 06:41:05 PM
Teaming up with the sheriffs? After all his bragging about being cousins with a shooter?

After smoking out a bunch of kids and bragging that his cousin has a body count. idk about this dude anymore. If he has legit mental health issues I hope he gets the help he needs.
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Post by: rukes on November 17, 2022, 07:07:19 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fkmV2LPlPS4
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Doesn't really help that Crob kinda looks like Dennis Reynolds in Chocolate gear.

Yeah nah, Crib is far from a Golden God.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on November 17, 2022, 07:41:03 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClFMsFrJtJC/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

This dude is on a Compton police insta account giving boards to children

oh the irony
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Post by: shouldn't on November 17, 2022, 07:54:57 PM
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This dude is on a Compton police insta account giving boards to children
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oh the irony
do you think he got them high first?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fongool on November 17, 2022, 07:57:43 PM
imagine kooking it so hard that you end up surrendering your brand to the police
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Post by: WPG on November 17, 2022, 07:59:58 PM
To play devils advocate: he's was claiming his cousin to act hard but then for awhile he has been trying ot get him out and hoping to prove he's been rehabilitated. Which I can respect if he is.


 I'm all for giving boards to kids to hopefully get them out of hard times Boards for Bros and Nations Skate Youth (please donate and help some of the most troubled Candian youth)

But to link with the Compton police is a tough look for ILLEGAL civ
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Pete on November 17, 2022, 08:07:41 PM
Unprecedented levels of kookery. Honestly impressive how much that dude sucks. Tyshawn commenting “all I know is IC in dead last” is still some of the funniest shit to come out of all this.
Imagine looking/thinking/acting like mikey, that’s crazy.



Free max b
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: gumsole on November 17, 2022, 10:02:36 PM
the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten

Man seriously. How old is Mikey and how has he not learned any type of integrity? If his friends actually care for this clown they’d take his god damn phone away from him. He’s literally painting a target on himself to get hospitalized.

Edit: damn it I just saw the post of him giving out boards. Good on him for doing that. I wonder how much product illegal civ has on hand. This kook should continue to do that till it all runs out and fades away.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dark Knight on November 17, 2022, 10:12:45 PM
It’s called “entitlement”
He’s a lame bonus feature ass dork
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: LB on November 18, 2022, 01:40:50 AM
legal civ
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Post by: Ghost Face on November 18, 2022, 01:51:32 AM
He's trying to cleanse his karma from all the harassment and abuse his Ex-team has inflicted on security over the making of Hell Weak. There's a good chance he put them up to it as he's the "director" right?

Edit, spelling
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SHARPSHOOTER on November 18, 2022, 09:03:38 AM
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is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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Man seriously. How old is Mikey and how has he not learned any type of integrity? If his friends actually care for this clown they’d take his god damn phone away from him. He’s literally painting a target on himself to get hospitalized.

Edit: damn it I just saw the post of him giving out boards. Good on him for doing that. I wonder how much product illegal civ has on hand. This kook should continue to do that till it all runs out and fades away.
Yeah but it was with the Compton police department who undoubtedly have a terrible past-present connection with the black community.

Flexing his cousins murder charges and saying fuck the system and then working with cops makes no sense
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 18, 2022, 09:34:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWjzAfvkscQ

Finally watched this. Kevin handled that in the most mature way possible, doesn't do anything for my skate drama appetite, but oh well. Good on him for being so composed, def made me like him more.

I still cant stand his fucking skateboarding.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on November 18, 2022, 09:43:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TXX-YcL7MQ


was this supposed to be his IC part?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BacksideWallride on November 18, 2022, 10:57:05 AM
That was some slow skateboarding
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Post by: DaleSr on November 18, 2022, 11:08:43 AM
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is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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Man seriously. How old is Mikey and how has he not learned any type of integrity? If his friends actually care for this clown they’d take his god damn phone away from him. He’s literally painting a target on himself to get hospitalized.

Edit: damn it I just saw the post of him giving out boards. Good on him for doing that. I wonder how much product illegal civ has on hand. This kook should continue to do that till it all runs out and fades away.
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Yeah but it was with the Compton police department who undoubtedly have a terrible past-present connection with the black community.

Flexing his cousins murder charges and saying fuck the system and then working with cops makes no sense

For real, the sheriffs have insane deputy gangs. They have tattoos and patches for killing people in the line of duty. LAPD might have a better reputation than them
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TheDingus on November 18, 2022, 11:21:45 AM
Uh, that part was kinda…..bad?
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Post by: HarleyJarvis on November 18, 2022, 11:53:35 AM
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Wow that was fucking boring.

I've decided I don't give a sht about any of this.

Some preppy little tryhard having a mental breakdown about not being accepted by Hollywood and blowing the entire IC budget on a feature film. Cry me a river. Next.


Yet here you are, 38 pages deep
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Eric Dolphy on November 18, 2022, 12:11:39 PM
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Wow that was fucking boring.

I've decided I don't give a sht about any of this.

Some preppy little tryhard having a mental breakdown about not being accepted by Hollywood and blowing the entire IC budget on a feature film. Cry me a river. Next.
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Yet here you are, 38 pages deep
How do you feel about Cariumas? Or dragon bones wheels? How talk are you? You going to the Tyler aswift concert?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on November 18, 2022, 01:04:54 PM
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the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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Man seriously. How old is Mikey and how has he not learned any type of integrity? If his friends actually care for this clown they’d take his god damn phone away from him. He’s literally painting a target on himself to get hospitalized.

Edit: damn it I just saw the post of him giving out boards. Good on him for doing that. I wonder how much product illegal civ has on hand. This kook should continue to do that till it all runs out and fades away.
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Yeah but it was with the Compton police department who undoubtedly have a terrible past-present connection with the black community.

Flexing his cousins murder charges and saying fuck the system and then working with cops makes no sense
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For real, the sheriffs have insane deputy gangs. They have tattoos and patches for killing people in the line of duty. LAPD might have a better reputation than them
For real I just voted to oust Villanueva for the 2nd time in 12 months. That's how intractable the Sheriff's gangs are. At least the LAPD has seen some reform, even if it isn't sweeping. Meanwhile the Sheriff's Dept has not only resisted but doubled down so hard that they have an out of control gang problem in their ranks. Situation is FUBAR
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: 323-BALM on November 18, 2022, 01:13:29 PM
Uh, that part was kinda…..bad?

Mikey!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 18, 2022, 01:32:55 PM
Uh, that part was kinda…..bad?

I had high hopes for this part but it was kind of a dud.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: augustmoon on November 18, 2022, 02:06:21 PM
Funny, this probably would have been the best part in the IC video
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: SSBSTRS on November 18, 2022, 02:51:55 PM
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Wow that was fucking boring.

I've decided I don't give a sht about any of this.

Some preppy little tryhard having a mental breakdown about not being accepted by Hollywood and blowing the entire IC budget on a feature film. Cry me a river. Next.
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Yet here you are, 38 pages deep

Just need to highlight that this is a fucking epic first post

Also, Mikey called out Kevin on IG, and told him he'd sue him for putting out this footage, which is hilarious. I am dumb someone pls screenshot
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DCLOVE on November 18, 2022, 02:57:02 PM
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the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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Man seriously. How old is Mikey and how has he not learned any type of integrity? If his friends actually care for this clown they’d take his god damn phone away from him. He’s literally painting a target on himself to get hospitalized.

Edit: damn it I just saw the post of him giving out boards. Good on him for doing that. I wonder how much product illegal civ has on hand. This kook should continue to do that till it all runs out and fades away.
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Yeah but it was with the Compton police department who undoubtedly have a terrible past-present connection with the black community.

Flexing his cousins murder charges and saying fuck the system and then working with cops makes no sense
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For real, the sheriffs have insane deputy gangs. They have tattoos and patches for killing people in the line of duty. LAPD might have a better reputation than them
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For real I just voted to oust Villanueva for the 2nd time in 12 months. That's how intractable the Sheriff's gangs are. At least the LAPD has seen some reform, even if it isn't sweeping. Meanwhile the Sheriff's Dept has not only resisted but doubled down so hard that they have an out of control gang problem in their ranks. Situation is FUBAR

I did too but his opposition is just as bad. He’s the Long Beach sheriff and that fuck was flying the trump flag at the police station which is not only illegal but tells you all you need to know about how he views policing.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on November 18, 2022, 03:03:53 PM
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the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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Man seriously. How old is Mikey and how has he not learned any type of integrity? If his friends actually care for this clown they’d take his god damn phone away from him. He’s literally painting a target on himself to get hospitalized.

Edit: damn it I just saw the post of him giving out boards. Good on him for doing that. I wonder how much product illegal civ has on hand. This kook should continue to do that till it all runs out and fades away.
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Yeah but it was with the Compton police department who undoubtedly have a terrible past-present connection with the black community.

Flexing his cousins murder charges and saying fuck the system and then working with cops makes no sense
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For real, the sheriffs have insane deputy gangs. They have tattoos and patches for killing people in the line of duty. LAPD might have a better reputation than them
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For real I just voted to oust Villanueva for the 2nd time in 12 months. That's how intractable the Sheriff's gangs are. At least the LAPD has seen some reform, even if it isn't sweeping. Meanwhile the Sheriff's Dept has not only resisted but doubled down so hard that they have an out of control gang problem in their ranks. Situation is FUBAR
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I did too but his opposition is just as bad. He’s the Long Beach sheriff and that fuck was flying the trump flag at the police station which is not only illegal but tells you all you need to know about how he views policing.
Yeah the reform candidate is probably also pretty fucking terrible. I voted for him just because he ran on a platform of reform. I think in the earlier election there were more candidates but I voted for Luna both times cuz that's what the lefty hodgepodge of websites I polled minutes before voting on a hundred or so super important issues said to do. Voting in California in general is kinda fucked up.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 18, 2022, 05:36:55 PM
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the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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Man seriously. How old is Mikey and how has he not learned any type of integrity? If his friends actually care for this clown they’d take his god damn phone away from him. He’s literally painting a target on himself to get hospitalized.

Edit: damn it I just saw the post of him giving out boards. Good on him for doing that. I wonder how much product illegal civ has on hand. This kook should continue to do that till it all runs out and fades away.
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Yeah but it was with the Compton police department who undoubtedly have a terrible past-present connection with the black community.

Flexing his cousins murder charges and saying fuck the system and then working with cops makes no sense
[close]

For real, the sheriffs have insane deputy gangs. They have tattoos and patches for killing people in the line of duty. LAPD might have a better reputation than them
[close]
For real I just voted to oust Villanueva for the 2nd time in 12 months. That's how intractable the Sheriff's gangs are. At least the LAPD has seen some reform, even if it isn't sweeping. Meanwhile the Sheriff's Dept has not only resisted but doubled down so hard that they have an out of control gang problem in their ranks. Situation is FUBAR
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I did too but his opposition is just as bad. He’s the Long Beach sheriff and that fuck was flying the trump flag at the police station which is not only illegal but tells you all you need to know about how he views policing.
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Yeah the reform candidate is probably also pretty fucking terrible. I voted for him just because he ran on a platform of reform. I think in the earlier election there were more candidates but I voted for Luna both times cuz that's what the lefty hodgepodge of websites I polled minutes before voting on a hundred or so super important issues said to do. Voting in California in general is kinda fucked up.

Anyone wanting to know more about deputy gangs should listen to Cerise Castle's podcast A Tradition of Violence or read her 15 part series on knock LA of the same name

https://knock-la.com/tradition-of-violence-lasd-gang-history/
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rickdizzo on November 18, 2022, 05:38:33 PM
jonah hill had a long talk with martin scorsese and then said to himself “ya know i should call up? mikey alfred!”
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 18, 2022, 05:48:14 PM
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the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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Man seriously. How old is Mikey and how has he not learned any type of integrity? If his friends actually care for this clown they’d take his god damn phone away from him. He’s literally painting a target on himself to get hospitalized.

Edit: damn it I just saw the post of him giving out boards. Good on him for doing that. I wonder how much product illegal civ has on hand. This kook should continue to do that till it all runs out and fades away.
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Yeah but it was with the Compton police department who undoubtedly have a terrible past-present connection with the black community.

Flexing his cousins murder charges and saying fuck the system and then working with cops makes no sense
[close]

For real, the sheriffs have insane deputy gangs. They have tattoos and patches for killing people in the line of duty. LAPD might have a better reputation than them
[close]
For real I just voted to oust Villanueva for the 2nd time in 12 months. That's how intractable the Sheriff's gangs are. At least the LAPD has seen some reform, even if it isn't sweeping. Meanwhile the Sheriff's Dept has not only resisted but doubled down so hard that they have an out of control gang problem in their ranks. Situation is FUBAR
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I did too but his opposition is just as bad. He’s the Long Beach sheriff and that fuck was flying the trump flag at the police station which is not only illegal but tells you all you need to know about how he views policing.
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Yeah the reform candidate is probably also pretty fucking terrible. I voted for him just because he ran on a platform of reform. I think in the earlier election there were more candidates but I voted for Luna both times cuz that's what the lefty hodgepodge of websites I polled minutes before voting on a hundred or so super important issues said to do. Voting in California in general is kinda fucked up.
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Anyone wanting to know more about deputy gangs should listen to Cerise Castle's podcast A Tradition of Violence or read her 15 part series on knock LA of the same name

https://knock-la.com/tradition-of-violence-lasd-gang-history/

I’ve legit had a tab open with that article for months now, but the length has deterred me a little.   Is the podcast a worthy alternative?   I’m just wondering how much it abridges the content @DaleSr
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DCLOVE on November 18, 2022, 06:26:50 PM
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the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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Man seriously. How old is Mikey and how has he not learned any type of integrity? If his friends actually care for this clown they’d take his god damn phone away from him. He’s literally painting a target on himself to get hospitalized.

Edit: damn it I just saw the post of him giving out boards. Good on him for doing that. I wonder how much product illegal civ has on hand. This kook should continue to do that till it all runs out and fades away.
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Yeah but it was with the Compton police department who undoubtedly have a terrible past-present connection with the black community.

Flexing his cousins murder charges and saying fuck the system and then working with cops makes no sense
[close]

For real, the sheriffs have insane deputy gangs. They have tattoos and patches for killing people in the line of duty. LAPD might have a better reputation than them
[close]
For real I just voted to oust Villanueva for the 2nd time in 12 months. That's how intractable the Sheriff's gangs are. At least the LAPD has seen some reform, even if it isn't sweeping. Meanwhile the Sheriff's Dept has not only resisted but doubled down so hard that they have an out of control gang problem in their ranks. Situation is FUBAR
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I did too but his opposition is just as bad. He’s the Long Beach sheriff and that fuck was flying the trump flag at the police station which is not only illegal but tells you all you need to know about how he views policing.
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Yeah the reform candidate is probably also pretty fucking terrible. I voted for him just because he ran on a platform of reform. I think in the earlier election there were more candidates but I voted for Luna both times cuz that's what the lefty hodgepodge of websites I polled minutes before voting on a hundred or so super important issues said to do. Voting in California in general is kinda fucked up.

Oh for sure. The only reason I felt somewhat good about voting for Luna was that measure on the ballot for city council to remove the sheriff. The left can justify it however but fact of the matter is we got fucking played in 2016 with Villanueva running as a democrat and as Tyler the creator said, “ so that was a fucking lie.”

  At least the city saw through Caruso , we haven’t had great options but I think everyone can agree we don’t need more billionaires who like to plaster their names on buildings having political power
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lilyung on November 18, 2022, 06:42:41 PM
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Wow that was fucking boring.

I've decided I don't give a sht about any of this.

Some preppy little tryhard having a mental breakdown about not being accepted by Hollywood and blowing the entire IC budget on a feature film. Cry me a river. Next.
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Yet here you are, 38 pages deep
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Just need to highlight that this is a fucking epic first post

Also, Mikey called out Kevin on IG, and told him he'd sue him for putting out this footage, which is hilarious. I am dumb someone pls screenshot

I think you forgot the sick burn at the end.

The post say's he would want to sue kev and pocketmag but they have nothing to take

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: opesorry on November 18, 2022, 07:38:59 PM
I think the part dropping with pocket actually got to him, his tone seemed to shift in the last couple dumb rants on his story. Maybe this is the breaking point
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 18, 2022, 08:15:23 PM
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the only thing that can fix this

is for mikey to get his ass absolutely beaten
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Man seriously. How old is Mikey and how has he not learned any type of integrity? If his friends actually care for this clown they’d take his god damn phone away from him. He’s literally painting a target on himself to get hospitalized.

Edit: damn it I just saw the post of him giving out boards. Good on him for doing that. I wonder how much product illegal civ has on hand. This kook should continue to do that till it all runs out and fades away.
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Yeah but it was with the Compton police department who undoubtedly have a terrible past-present connection with the black community.

Flexing his cousins murder charges and saying fuck the system and then working with cops makes no sense
[close]

For real, the sheriffs have insane deputy gangs. They have tattoos and patches for killing people in the line of duty. LAPD might have a better reputation than them
[close]
For real I just voted to oust Villanueva for the 2nd time in 12 months. That's how intractable the Sheriff's gangs are. At least the LAPD has seen some reform, even if it isn't sweeping. Meanwhile the Sheriff's Dept has not only resisted but doubled down so hard that they have an out of control gang problem in their ranks. Situation is FUBAR
[close]

I did too but his opposition is just as bad. He’s the Long Beach sheriff and that fuck was flying the trump flag at the police station which is not only illegal but tells you all you need to know about how he views policing.
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Yeah the reform candidate is probably also pretty fucking terrible. I voted for him just because he ran on a platform of reform. I think in the earlier election there were more candidates but I voted for Luna both times cuz that's what the lefty hodgepodge of websites I polled minutes before voting on a hundred or so super important issues said to do. Voting in California in general is kinda fucked up.
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Anyone wanting to know more about deputy gangs should listen to Cerise Castle's podcast A Tradition of Violence or read her 15 part series on knock LA of the same name

https://knock-la.com/tradition-of-violence-lasd-gang-history/
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I’ve legit had a tab open with that article for months now, but the length has deterred me a little.   Is the podcast a worthy alternative?   I’m just wondering how much it abridges the content @DaleSr

It's currently still running. Only a few episodes so far so hopefully Cerise goes really in depth
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sprained_ankle on November 18, 2022, 08:25:36 PM
I think the part dropping with pocket actually got to him, his tone seemed to shift in the last couple dumb rants on his story. Maybe this is the breaking point

what he saying for us ppl who dont have IG?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pattacakenanny on November 18, 2022, 08:34:38 PM
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I think the part dropping with pocket actually got to him, his tone seemed to shift in the last couple dumb rants on his story. Maybe this is the breaking point
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what he saying for us ppl who dont have IG?
mikey calls nak, kev and jolly  "a buncha broke niggas hatin" on his story, pretty sad

nak calls mikey a scammer on his story, pretty funny
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: opesorry on November 18, 2022, 08:36:31 PM
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I think the part dropping with pocket actually got to him, his tone seemed to shift in the last couple dumb rants on his story. Maybe this is the breaking point
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what he saying for us ppl who dont have IG?
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mikey calls nak, kev and jolly  "a buncha broke niggas hatin" on his story, pretty sad

nak calls mikey a scammer on his story, pretty funny

It was more the way he said it, he actually sounded kinda pissed instead of just laughing everything off
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 18, 2022, 08:36:36 PM
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I think the part dropping with pocket actually got to him, his tone seemed to shift in the last couple dumb rants on his story. Maybe this is the breaking point
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what he saying for us ppl who dont have IG?
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mikey calls nak, kev and jolly  "a buncha broke niggas hatin" on his story, pretty sad

nak calls mikey a scammer on his story, pretty funny

It’s like Republican primaries, sitting back and watching loathsome ideas take bites out of each other
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: doublesteveburger on November 18, 2022, 09:02:27 PM
kinda starting to think this dorky bill cosblay lookin fella is totally losing it
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Uglier on November 18, 2022, 09:17:52 PM
mikey is an idiot but now after all they did together to talk bad about him on one of the biggest platforms skateboarding has just so some complete strangers can hate mikey the right way seems like a total dick move.

ive liked the old ic team even though not everything they did was cool to me.
2014 ic team was insane. IC2 is still a legendary video
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Uglier on November 18, 2022, 09:32:52 PM
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Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol
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also calling him a "woman beater" for fighting a homeless woman that punched in their window

not that it's necessarily okay, but you guys get the idea - Mikey's reaching

*edit - now that i see how Mikey reacts with his friendships & various relationships, it seems like every relationship is purely transactional to him

I remember K white beating that lady up 😭
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Uglier on November 18, 2022, 09:34:08 PM
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Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol
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also calling him a "woman beater" for fighting a homeless woman that punched in their window

not that it's necessarily okay, but you guys get the idea - Mikey's reaching

*edit - now that i see how Mikey reacts with his friendships & various relationships, it seems like every relationship is purely transactional to him
Damn what happened to Mightyhealthy? Always thought they had the sickest logo
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on November 18, 2022, 10:36:46 PM
at this point i honestly should feel bad ripping the piss outta mikey. if it were anyone else i’d think this was a cry for help but goddamn, he’s just truly a fuckin narcissistic sociopath.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Natas Fauxas on November 18, 2022, 11:56:32 PM
WTF did dude really say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxNyPs5aQbQ
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: shouldn't on November 19, 2022, 12:01:58 AM
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Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol
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also calling him a "woman beater" for fighting a homeless woman that punched in their window

not that it's necessarily okay, but you guys get the idea - Mikey's reaching

*edit - now that i see how Mikey reacts with his friendships & various relationships, it seems like every relationship is purely transactional to him
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I remember K white beating that lady up 😭
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Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 19, 2022, 12:55:26 AM
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Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol
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(https://i.imgur.com/2GWJdZa.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/sO3E2DG.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/GydZYlH.png)
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also calling him a "woman beater" for fighting a homeless woman that punched in their window

not that it's necessarily okay, but you guys get the idea - Mikey's reaching

*edit - now that i see how Mikey reacts with his friendships & various relationships, it seems like every relationship is purely transactional to him
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I remember K white beating that lady up 😭
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Just read the screenshots.   He apparently beat up some homeless lady for doing something to their car
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: shouldn't on November 19, 2022, 02:18:09 AM
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Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol
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(https://i.imgur.com/2GWJdZa.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/sO3E2DG.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/GydZYlH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/L7vGiBt.png)

also calling him a "woman beater" for fighting a homeless woman that punched in their window

not that it's necessarily okay, but you guys get the idea - Mikey's reaching

*edit - now that i see how Mikey reacts with his friendships & various relationships, it seems like every relationship is purely transactional to him
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I remember K white beating that lady up 😭
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Just read the screenshots.   He apparently beat up some homeless lady for doing something to their car
i back you but, obviously i can read. i’m saying where is the proof he beat this old lady up? this guy says he remembered when it happened. so my post was meant to be read as an inquiry of “how do you remember this?”. it sounded like there was video proof.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 19, 2022, 02:30:36 AM
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Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol
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(https://i.imgur.com/2GWJdZa.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/sO3E2DG.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/GydZYlH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/L7vGiBt.png)

also calling him a "woman beater" for fighting a homeless woman that punched in their window

not that it's necessarily okay, but you guys get the idea - Mikey's reaching

*edit - now that i see how Mikey reacts with his friendships & various relationships, it seems like every relationship is purely transactional to him
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I remember K white beating that lady up 😭
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Just read the screenshots.   He apparently beat up some homeless lady for doing something to their car
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i back you but, obviously i can read. i’m saying where is the proof he beat this old lady up? this guy says he remembered when it happened. so my post was meant to be read as an inquiry of “how do you remember this?”. it sounded like there was video proof.

I gotcha.   I just assume it’s in one of those IC videos.  Never watched them
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Post by: shouldn't on November 19, 2022, 02:37:56 AM
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Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol
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(https://i.imgur.com/2GWJdZa.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/sO3E2DG.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/GydZYlH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/L7vGiBt.png)

also calling him a "woman beater" for fighting a homeless woman that punched in their window

not that it's necessarily okay, but you guys get the idea - Mikey's reaching

*edit - now that i see how Mikey reacts with his friendships & various relationships, it seems like every relationship is purely transactional to him
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I remember K white beating that lady up 😭
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Just read the screenshots.   He apparently beat up some homeless lady for doing something to their car
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i back you but, obviously i can read. i’m saying where is the proof he beat this old lady up? this guy says he remembered when it happened. so my post was meant to be read as an inquiry of “how do you remember this?”. it sounded like there was video proof.
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I gotcha.   I just assume it’s in one of those IC videos.  Never watched them
me neither bud but, here we are responding back and forth 40 pages deep. maybe we need to be checked in to the same facility as mikey  ??? . in all seriousness, my point is that this could’ve been another random l.a. homeless person being aggressive with them in traffic who they waved off, which mikey filmed the occurrence & now is using as clout to try to say “he beat her up!!!” who knows if kevin white made him pay him 10k for the footage… to me (just as a speculator)… one guy leaves & you ask him for 700k whether it’s sarcastically or not.. then another does & you give him 10k to use his footage that you filmed? makes zero sense. my whole point is that i think mikey is making literally everything up & the few who still tried to be respectful (nak on insta live, kevin on nine club) he has burnt bridges with so devastatingly, that there is absolutely nothing left to speculate anymore. that’s just me.
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Post by: dallou on November 19, 2022, 03:44:03 AM
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Hes going after Kevin in the insta stories now. lol
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also calling him a "woman beater" for fighting a homeless woman that punched in their window

not that it's necessarily okay, but you guys get the idea - Mikey's reaching

*edit - now that i see how Mikey reacts with his friendships & various relationships, it seems like every relationship is purely transactional to him
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I remember K white beating that lady up 😭
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Just read the screenshots.   He apparently beat up some homeless lady for doing something to their car
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i back you but, obviously i can read. i’m saying where is the proof he beat this old lady up? this guy says he remembered when it happened. so my post was meant to be read as an inquiry of “how do you remember this?”. it sounded like there was video proof.
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I gotcha.   I just assume it’s in one of those IC videos.  Never watched them
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me neither bud but, here we are responding back and forth 40 pages deep. maybe we need to be checked in to the same facility as mikey  ??? . in all seriousness, my point is that this could’ve been another random l.a. homeless person being aggressive with them in traffic who they waved off, which mikey filmed the occurrence & now is using as clout to try to say “he beat her up!!!” who knows if kevin white made him pay him 10k for the footage… to me (just as a speculator)… one guy leaves & you ask him for 700k whether it’s sarcastically or not.. then another does & you give him 10k to use his footage that you filmed? makes zero sense. my whole point is that i think mikey is making literally everything up & the few who still tried to be respectful (nak on insta live, kevin on nine club) he has burnt bridges with so devastatingly, that there is absolutely nothing left to speculate anymore. that’s just me.

Biebel crying rn
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Post by: lunkalarm3000 on November 19, 2022, 04:58:21 AM
mikey teamed up with them cops so he can finna smoke them kids out
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Post by: fredgallSOTY on November 19, 2022, 07:24:40 AM
he can finna
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Post by: manysnakes on November 19, 2022, 07:28:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TXX-YcL7MQ


was this supposed to be his IC part?

This guy was supposed to be on FA? Jesus
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Post by: Pete on November 19, 2022, 07:58:40 AM
no.

he was a flow kid.


free max b




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Post by: apport on November 19, 2022, 08:04:45 AM
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was this supposed to be his IC part?
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This guy was supposed to be on FA? Jesus
you’re saying that like you don’t know who FA just turned pro
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Post by: sk84fun on November 19, 2022, 08:08:59 AM
I always expect Kevin white to progress in his parts but that dude STILL has one of the worst styles. Shit is like watching nails on a chalkboard.
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Post by: manysnakes on November 19, 2022, 09:16:21 AM
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was this supposed to be his IC part?
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This guy was supposed to be on FA? Jesus
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you’re saying that like you don’t know who FA just turned pro

That thought had crossed my mind while posting.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BALARGUE on November 19, 2022, 09:57:29 AM
I never understood that "Kevin chose IC over FA" narrative either
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Post by: doublesteveburger on November 19, 2022, 04:39:01 PM
I always expect Kevin white to progress in his parts but that dude STILL has one of the worst styles. Shit is like watching nails on a chalkboard.


seriously I hate watching nails on a chalkboard
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on November 19, 2022, 08:15:01 PM
I never understood that "Kevin chose IC over FA" narrative either

He did. Talked about on the good old nine club.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: banksandledges on November 20, 2022, 07:42:30 AM
Poor dude got that Felix Arguelles steez  :-\
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Post by: Robert Baratheon on November 20, 2022, 04:05:03 PM
Poor dude got that Felix Arguelles steez  :-\

Aw, it’s not that bad. He just needs to skate faster.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fineslime on November 20, 2022, 04:08:54 PM
I always expect Kevin white to progress in his parts but that dude STILL has one of the worst styles. Shit is like watching nails on a chalkboard.

What if he's just sk8ing 4 fun??
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Post by: one-o-one on November 20, 2022, 05:43:15 PM
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What if he's just sk8ing 4 fun??

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Post by: versacekid420 on November 20, 2022, 05:55:32 PM
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I always expect Kevin white to progress in his parts but that dude STILL has one of the worst styles. Shit is like watching nails on a chalkboard.
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What if he's just sk8ing 4 fun??
there’s no such thing as fun in skateboarding. You either eat the concrete and/or land because of how dedicated and mentally fucked up you are. Does that sound fun to you probably not. “I love fun” well i love pain. Get real
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Post by: FatGuy92 on November 20, 2022, 06:25:47 PM
I always expect Kevin white to progress in his parts but that dude STILL has one of the worst styles. Shit is like watching nails on a chalkboard.

Saying he has one of the worst styles is a little harsh imo but I get it. He's a really tall dude and it seems like he never got used to his size for skating.
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Post by: vinithebr on November 20, 2022, 06:30:53 PM
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I always expect Kevin white to progress in his parts but that dude STILL has one of the worst styles. Shit is like watching nails on a chalkboard.
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What if he's just sk8ing 4 fun??
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there’s no such thing as fun in skateboarding. You either eat the concrete and/or land because of how dedicated and mentally fucked up you are. Does that sound fun to you probably not. “I love fun” well i love pain. Get real
fuck, skateboarding isn't fun after all, you opened my eyes thanks
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Post by: versacekid420 on November 20, 2022, 07:43:02 PM
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I always expect Kevin white to progress in his parts but that dude STILL has one of the worst styles. Shit is like watching nails on a chalkboard.
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What if he's just sk8ing 4 fun??
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there’s no such thing as fun in skateboarding. You either eat the concrete and/or land because of how dedicated and mentally fucked up you are. Does that sound fun to you probably not. “I love fun” well i love pain. Get real
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fuck, skateboarding isn't fun after all, you opened my eyes thanks
yeah man go out and punish yourself tomorrow. open yourself up to a new reality
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sk84fun on November 20, 2022, 09:21:44 PM
I honestly thought I was being a lil harsh in hindsight…but I just looked at his ig and fuck that!! It’s so terrible…he’s all over the place. It’s kinda comical. It’s just like the opposite of finesse every single trick. He seems like cool dude and all but goddamn!!

Just expected him to be way better by now I guess. Idk he skates with a lot of heavy hitters and I think it makes him look even worse. Like his clips just seem outta place in montages.

Having moderate skate ability and being the homie must be nice! I’ll probably just keep watching his videos in hope of better days. Or just for a good laugh.

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Post by: Allen. on November 20, 2022, 09:30:16 PM
The roll up to the nollie flip bs tail revert is insane
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Post by: brucewillis on November 21, 2022, 06:07:39 AM
He seems like a nice dude, but how he's fully on adidas and not just flow is beyond my comprehension. I love to root for the underdogs and I try not being a mean asshole here but his style is just bad.
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Post by: crepes on November 21, 2022, 06:15:36 AM
He seems like a nice dude, but how he's fully on adidas and not just flow is beyond my comprehension. I love to root for the underdogs and I try not being a mean asshole here but his style is just bad.
He's better than Beatrice and she's pro. Dude is a little rusty but not the worst skater to finagle his way into the industry by any means.
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Post by: Turtle Boy on November 21, 2022, 06:22:53 AM
I thought for a long time that Kevin White was a team manager that just skates with the homies who are pros and have a decent level at skating so he went pro for IC because it's a small brand. But I just realized recently that he was fully on adidas and a pro "pro". Clive Dixon has no shoe contract and most of the Foundation team has to work a real job to live.
More power to Kevin thought.
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Post by: brucewillis on November 21, 2022, 06:28:17 AM
I thought for a long time that Kevin White was a team manager that just skates with the homies who are pros and have a decent level at skating so he went pro for IC because it's a small brand. But I just realized recently that he was fully on adidas and a pro "pro". Clive Dixon has no shoe contract and most of the Foundation team has to work a real job to live.
More power to Kevin thought.
Jake Darwen, NB# has a colorway out and he skates and look way better than Kevin on a board. The foundation team situation makes me sad.
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Post by: IpathCats on November 21, 2022, 06:33:59 AM
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I thought for a long time that Kevin White was a team manager that just skates with the homies who are pros and have a decent level at skating so he went pro for IC because it's a small brand. But I just realized recently that he was fully on adidas and a pro "pro". Clive Dixon has no shoe contract and most of the Foundation team has to work a real job to live.
More power to Kevin thought.
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Jake Darwen, NB# has a colorway out and he skates and look way better than Kevin on a board. The foundation team situation makes me sad.

agree. great team, no one is getting enough shine.
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Post by: Sid Farkus - Bra Salesman on November 21, 2022, 06:34:44 AM
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He seems like a nice dude, but how he's fully on adidas and not just flow is beyond my comprehension. I love to root for the underdogs and I try not being a mean asshole here but his style is just bad.
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He's better than Beatrice and she's pro. Dude is a little rusty but not the worst skater to finagle his way into the industry by any means.
with this I logic there's about 15 kids at my local that should have their name a board 
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Post by: crepes on November 21, 2022, 07:10:25 AM
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He seems like a nice dude, but how he's fully on adidas and not just flow is beyond my comprehension. I love to root for the underdogs and I try not being a mean asshole here but his style is just bad.
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He's better than Beatrice and she's pro. Dude is a little rusty but not the worst skater to finagle his way into the industry by any means.
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with this I logic there's about 15 kids at my local that should have their name a board
No, i agree with you but I'm just saying he's not the worst person to weasel their way in. Was a young bespectacled black kid who did varial flips in NY that Quartersnacks and some companies were trying to promote and he had no business being on pro videos either. For whatever reason, some kids just get the push while 15 year olds are doing the actual hard tricks at the local.
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Post by: sus on November 21, 2022, 10:58:54 AM
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I thought for a long time that Kevin White was a team manager that just skates with the homies who are pros and have a decent level at skating so he went pro for IC because it's a small brand. But I just realized recently that he was fully on adidas and a pro "pro". Clive Dixon has no shoe contract and most of the Foundation team has to work a real job to live.
More power to Kevin thought.
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Jake Darwen, NB# has a colorway out and he skates and look way better than Kevin on a board. The foundation team situation makes me sad.

Jake Darwen rips, but he's actually the NB# staff photographer
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Post by: $$LESH on November 21, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
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I thought for a long time that Kevin White was a team manager that just skates with the homies who are pros and have a decent level at skating so he went pro for IC because it's a small brand. But I just realized recently that he was fully on adidas and a pro "pro". Clive Dixon has no shoe contract and most of the Foundation team has to work a real job to live.
More power to Kevin thought.
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Jake Darwen, NB# has a colorway out and he skates and look way better than Kevin on a board. The foundation team situation makes me sad.
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Jake Darwen rips, but he's actually the NB# staff photographer

jake’s honestly better than some of the people on the team
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Post by: versacekid420 on November 23, 2022, 03:34:44 PM
https://youtu.be/k9ykzshZl2k oh man
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Post by: DaleSr on November 23, 2022, 03:54:58 PM
Skateboarding, it's um....
As a kid I grew up with my family, we go hang out, go on family reunions. They're exciting to be around and we would do fun stuff, but then as I became a little bit older, I'm talking ten or eleven..... it became like OK, don't do stuff like that, but let's still go outside and let's have some good fun you know and skateboarding is exciting.

-Mikey Alfred
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Post by: Stu Pickles on November 23, 2022, 03:57:33 PM
Skateboarding, it's um....
As a kid I grew up with my family, we go hang out, go on family reunions. They're exciting to be around and we would do fun stuff, but then as I became a little bit older, I'm talking ten or eleven..... it became like OK, don't do stuff like that, but let's still go outside and let's have some good fun you know and skateboarding is exciting.

-Mikey Alfred

is this real? feels like you gave a shitty ai a bad prompt to talk about skating while growing up
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Post by: djoekr on November 23, 2022, 04:02:37 PM
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Skateboarding, it's um....
As a kid I grew up with my family, we go hang out, go on family reunions. They're exciting to be around and we would do fun stuff, but then as I became a little bit older, I'm talking ten or eleven..... it became like OK, don't do stuff like that, but let's still go outside and let's have some good fun you know and skateboarding is exciting.

-Mikey Alfred
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is this real? feels like you gave a shitty ai a bad prompt to talk about skating while growing up

Yeah, I'm not listening to 45 minutes of Illegal Civ talk to find out if this is real or not.
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Post by: veritas on November 23, 2022, 04:08:20 PM
Made it close to 4 minutes, I’ll wait for the gifted hater wrap up of this train wreck. Did enjoy the part where he said “fuck the skate community” and when asked why they didn’t like him anymore he just shrugged his shoulders like a moron. Clearly he has the answer but is too embarrassed to acknowledge reality.
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on November 23, 2022, 07:30:52 PM
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Skateboarding, it's um....
As a kid I grew up with my family, we go hang out, go on family reunions. They're exciting to be around and we would do fun stuff, but then as I became a little bit older, I'm talking ten or eleven..... it became like OK, don't do stuff like that, but let's still go outside and let's have some good fun you know and skateboarding is exciting.

-Mikey Alfred
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is this real? feels like you gave a shitty ai a bad prompt to talk about skating while growing up

Timestamp is 7:30

No idea why I'm trying to listen through the whole thing but holy shit Mikey is incapable of conversation, it's painful. He does say the skate community can suck his dick in the beginning of the video though.

Even the channel that uploaded this video agrees lmao

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1045179451882872922/748d7be4c920d62e8231beb8709acf30.png)
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Post by: vinithebr on November 24, 2022, 04:31:18 AM
Made it close to 4 minutes, I’ll wait for the gifted hater wrap up of this train wreck. Did enjoy the part where he said “fuck the skate community” and when asked why they didn’t like him anymore he just shrugged his shoulders like a moron. Clearly he has the answer but is too embarrassed to acknowledge reality.
With the nazi shit Mikey pulled in the last* episode plus the recent TyshawnxGH stuff I doubt he is gonna make a video, but I could be wrong.
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Post by: djoekr on November 24, 2022, 05:03:26 AM
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Skateboarding, it's um....
As a kid I grew up with my family, we go hang out, go on family reunions. They're exciting to be around and we would do fun stuff, but then as I became a little bit older, I'm talking ten or eleven..... it became like OK, don't do stuff like that, but let's still go outside and let's have some good fun you know and skateboarding is exciting.

-Mikey Alfred
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is this real? feels like you gave a shitty ai a bad prompt to talk about skating while growing up
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Timestamp is 7:30

Heavy Charlie Kelly vibes.

https://youtu.be/bSpBlk7J4rk
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Post by: Beeda Weeda on November 24, 2022, 06:16:25 AM
31:00 is the most cringe  moment in internet or recorded world history.
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Post by: dallou on November 24, 2022, 06:55:55 AM
looks like a redpilled, alpha male, sigma core bullshit type of channel lol
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Post by: Steely Daniel on November 24, 2022, 07:17:10 AM
Is this guy an alien? Granted I only watched the AI generated skating origin story and singing timestamps other people posted but what in the actual fuck...
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Post by: matt_2993 on November 24, 2022, 07:32:45 AM
Push-ups? Haters?

That quote comes in at 8 minutes. Sounds even weirder when you listen
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Post by: aleksander on November 24, 2022, 05:38:45 PM
"Going through hell week in my Hollywood water polo practices" WOW
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Post by: Yonnycage on November 24, 2022, 06:51:26 PM
Dude straight up needs mental help. Not recommended, they gotta just shove him in a van and send him on his way
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Post by: doublesteveburger on November 24, 2022, 07:17:56 PM
if we all collectively suck his dick will he actually go away?
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Post by: offkilter on November 24, 2022, 08:53:44 PM
Skateboarding, it's um....
As a kid I grew up with my family, we go hang out, go on family reunions. They're exciting to be around and we would do fun stuff, but then as I became a little bit older, I'm talking ten or eleven..... it became like OK, don't do stuff like that, but let's still go outside and let's have some good fun you know and skateboarding is exciting.

-Mikey Alfred

RawTalk
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Post by: fistful0dynamite on November 24, 2022, 09:04:42 PM
tomorrow’s the premiere, let’s see this turnout
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Post by: i used to skate on November 25, 2022, 08:41:23 PM
https://instagram.com/stories/babystonegorillas_/2979721865372699551

When it pans to the crowd there’s one person waving their arm heavy and I think that’s Mikey
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Post by: sus on November 25, 2022, 09:06:04 PM
https://instagram.com/stories/babystonegorillas_/2979721865372699551

When it pans to the crowd there’s one person waving their arm heavy and I think that’s Mikey
I think you’re right

Also that can’t be more than 20 people in the crowd
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Post by: Malcolm Sex on November 26, 2022, 12:33:57 AM
You could stand in the street for an hour and convince this many people to come in and watch a movie for free. Which is probably what happened.

https://instagram.com/stories/illegalciv/2979846362150603979?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Would like to know how many were still there by the end.
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Post by: DaleSr on November 26, 2022, 09:14:48 AM
It looks like it was a flop. Hilarious that he was referring to it as a documentary in his interview with the raw talk kook
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 26, 2022, 09:16:55 AM
“Support black owned businesses” - proceeds to post pre show pics at an Italian restaurant


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Post by: veritas on November 26, 2022, 10:57:20 AM
It looks like it was a flop. Hilarious that he was referring to it as a documentary in his interview with the raw talk kook

Looked like a high school graduation party, how many people from the skate industry were there? Nice touch to see them charging $13 for a beer instead of having an open bar as well.
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Post by: DaleSr on November 26, 2022, 11:24:56 AM
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Looked like a high school graduation party, how many people from the skate industry were there? Nice touch to see them charging $13 for a beer instead of having an open bar as well.

I just wanna know how the magic portion went! Was he doing Cris Angel mind freak shit?? Close up magic? Card tricks? Were any rabbits pulled out of a large red poncho??
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Post by: Pete on November 26, 2022, 12:13:51 PM
nah for real who went and how was the magician?

thats definitely mikey in the crowd doing whatever the fuck hes doing.



free max b
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Post by: pbj on November 26, 2022, 11:50:45 PM
https://twitter.com/sebcat123/status/1596654464433213440?s=21&t=tO-yK5eSpzM93Y5g5b1j7w
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Post by: Hefe43 on November 27, 2022, 03:57:56 AM
https://twitter.com/sebcat123/status/1596654464433213440?s=21&t=tO-yK5eSpzM93Y5g5b1j7w
;D
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Post by: skate_or_dingus on November 27, 2022, 04:02:05 AM
https://twitter.com/sebcat123/status/1596654464433213440?s=21&t=tO-yK5eSpzM93Y5g5b1j7w

https://youtu.be/0T_NR2KY8uI
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Post by: Steely Daniel on November 27, 2022, 04:28:06 AM
Packed house and rave reviews?
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Post by: LB on November 27, 2022, 05:36:36 AM
i was upset the insta links were deleted but the twitter update made up for my loss.

i'll watch that interview too, but i have to let the hate flow through me first.  maybe i'll look at dingleberrys page first.
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Post by: Youoverthere on November 27, 2022, 05:54:50 AM
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I always expect Kevin white to progress in his parts but that dude STILL has one of the worst styles. Shit is like watching nails on a chalkboard.
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What if he's just sk8ing 4 fun??
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there’s no such thing as fun in skateboarding. You either eat the concrete and/or land because of how dedicated and mentally fucked up you are. Does that sound fun to you probably not. “I love fun” well i love pain. Get real
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fuck, skateboarding isn't fun after all, you opened my eyes thanks
That’s truly how I feel about skatin. This shit ain’t fun. My board is Sisyphus’ rock.
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I always expect Kevin white to progress in his parts but that dude STILL has one of the worst styles. Shit is like watching nails on a chalkboard.
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What if he's just sk8ing 4 fun??
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there’s no such thing as fun in skateboarding. You either eat the concrete and/or land because of how dedicated and mentally fucked up you are. Does that sound fun to you probably not. “I love fun” well i love pain. Get real
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fuck, skateboarding isn't fun after all, you opened my eyes thanks
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That’s truly how I feel about skatin. This shit ain’t fun. My board is Sisyphus’ rock.


Why are you pushing up a hill?   Doing a reverse Sean Young?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: yourbreakfsat on November 27, 2022, 08:45:00 AM
https://twitter.com/sebcat123/status/1596654464433213440?s=21&t=tO-yK5eSpzM93Y5g5b1j7w

IC didn't survive hell week
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fs1/2cab on November 27, 2022, 09:36:55 AM
But was the premiere a success for mastermind Mikey?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 27, 2022, 10:50:26 AM
But was the premiere a success for mastermind Mikey?

Yeah he was pulling a Producers scheme
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on November 27, 2022, 11:52:39 AM
Omg is this mikey confirming he’s in the Illuminati and this is his humiliation ritual 😵😵😵
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Shifty Flip on November 27, 2022, 04:13:26 PM
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I always expect Kevin white to progress in his parts but that dude STILL has one of the worst styles. Shit is like watching nails on a chalkboard.
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What if he's just sk8ing 4 fun??
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there’s no such thing as fun in skateboarding. You either eat the concrete and/or land because of how dedicated and mentally fucked up you are. Does that sound fun to you probably not. “I love fun” well i love pain. Get real
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fuck, skateboarding isn't fun after all, you opened my eyes thanks
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That’s truly how I feel about skatin. This shit ain’t fun. My board is Sisyphus’ rock.
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Why are you pushing up a hill?   Doing a reverse Sean Young?

Can’t gnar everyone fast enough.
Cannot repeat in 24hr message incoming
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Bryanferry on November 28, 2022, 03:01:53 AM
Seriously no videos of the night especially the magic? 🥺
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on November 28, 2022, 03:10:35 AM
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Yeah he was pulling a Producers scheme

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Post by: palelight on November 28, 2022, 06:28:35 AM
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But was the premiere a success for mastermind Mikey?
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Yeah he was pulling a Producers scheme

Springtime for Midler
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 28, 2022, 06:54:13 AM
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But was the premiere a success for mastermind Mikey?
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Yeah he was pulling a Producers scheme
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Springtime for Midler

!!!!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on November 28, 2022, 07:51:47 AM
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But was the premiere a success for mastermind Mikey?
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Yeah he was pulling a Producers scheme
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Springtime for Midler



bravo
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TrainWreck on November 29, 2022, 09:46:49 AM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY (https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY)

MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on November 29, 2022, 09:54:21 AM
wow that was horrible.
he seems gone.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on November 29, 2022, 09:55:43 AM
Damn, Jordan Maxham really did not hook up Mikey with the edit, he says they’re boys then does him like that?

That was unhinged.  Mikey seems content playing the villain though, but don’t see how that’s sustainable.  Dude needs to step away
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: brucewillis on November 29, 2022, 10:02:03 AM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY (https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY)

MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
Idabble is the nail in the coffin
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 29, 2022, 10:03:24 AM
I don't know how I was supposed to glean any information from that interview incoherent rambling.  I want my three and a half minutes back.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dr Waffles on November 29, 2022, 10:08:48 AM
someone needs to tell him to do something different with his facial hair. He still lives with his mom right?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on November 29, 2022, 10:32:55 AM
So….they hit a guy? What?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: showbobs on November 29, 2022, 10:35:13 AM
That "interview" was fucking awful.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on November 29, 2022, 10:38:43 AM
Mikey found someone more fried than him to talk to.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on November 29, 2022, 10:47:59 AM
Why cant he stay away from kids and try to sponsor some adults. Was exceptionally creepy when he had those middle schoolers show up to the Raw Talk interview at night at some random dude's house in LA, dude rolls around with an entourage of 15 year olds like Epstein. Hearing him keep mentioning "kids" makes my skin crawl.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: h00man on November 29, 2022, 10:49:34 AM
this did not change my mind about him one bit
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 29, 2022, 10:49:39 AM
So….they hit a guy? What?
Back when all the shit started hitting the fan and Mikey was trying to turn the narrative against these kids, he kept bringing up footage he has of one of them punching someone, I think.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 29, 2022, 10:50:14 AM
So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?

Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
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Idabble is the nail in the coffin

why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: boneless900 on November 29, 2022, 10:59:15 AM
So….they hit a guy? What?

So hypocritical and dumb considering the IC edit Mikey himself put out showing them antagonize security guards and an old woman walking around minding her own business. Mikey wants to put the pressure on these kids as if they're trying out for an NFL team on Hard Knocks, but treats them like dogshit and rewards them with hamburgers as well as legal threats. Mikey seems like the type of dude to post about how Virgil Abloh got him inspired to skate and how impactful his LV collection was to Doritos


Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TheDingus on November 29, 2022, 11:18:28 AM
At least idabble production value is going up 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: pbj on November 29, 2022, 11:18:42 AM
"should we get the Bob's sign in the back?"

What is it with this dude and hamburgers?!


Idabble is the nail in the coffin

Lmaoo
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 29, 2022, 11:54:24 AM
So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?

Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
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Idabble is the nail in the coffin
[close]

why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.

Yo but the idabble guy said that he's one of the most lucid people he knows, so I guess we were wrong
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 29, 2022, 12:08:08 PM
What’s with Mikey’s black hole Sun smile?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 29, 2022, 12:32:27 PM
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So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?

Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
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Idabble is the nail in the coffin
[close]

why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.
[close]

Yo but the idabble guy said that he's one of the most lucid people he knows, so I guess we were wrong

Bro, you're like the most lucid guy i know bro. There's no way you're just bullying these kids bro, you're just too lucid to do that man.


WHO THE FUCK HAS A "MOST LUCID" PERSON THEY KNOW OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD!?!?

That is one of the biggest loads of hollywood influencer bullshitspeak i've ever heard.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on November 29, 2022, 12:39:22 PM
So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?


Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
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Idabble is the nail in the coffin
[close]

why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.

He said he would keep the footage of them fighting the pedestrian in the video unless they let him keep their clips and kept skating for him, he’s admitting to blackmailing high school kids into riding for IC
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 29, 2022, 12:41:34 PM
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So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?


Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
[close]
Idabble is the nail in the coffin
[close]

why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.
[close]

He said he would keep the footage of them fighting the pedestrian in the video unless they let him keep their clips and kept skating for him, he’s admitting to blackmailing high school kids into riding for IC

i didnt understand it that way. why would they care if the clip was posted if they were stoked on it? none of this makes sense.

fuck hollywood/la and the god-ego complexes that place fosters. its fucking gross, all of it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: conan777 on November 29, 2022, 12:55:34 PM
Mikey is clearly in the start of drug induced schizophrenia from smoking too much hydro weed. Seen it countless times before
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: ok boomer on November 29, 2022, 01:14:01 PM
I don't really know who a lot of these people are

#blessed
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 29, 2022, 01:31:25 PM
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So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?

Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
[close]
Idabble is the nail in the coffin
[close]

why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.
[close]

Yo but the idabble guy said that he's one of the most lucid people he knows, so I guess we were wrong
[close]

Bro, you're like the most lucid guy i know bro. There's no way you're just bullying these kids bro, you're just too lucid to do that man.


WHO THE FUCK HAS A "MOST LUCID" PERSON THEY KNOW OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD!?!?

That is one of the biggest loads of hollywood influencer bullshitspeak i've ever heard.
HAHA we use lucid when describing my wife's grandmother who in her late nineties still has her wits about her.  Him using it to compliment Mikey Taylor is weird as fuck.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 29, 2022, 02:33:30 PM
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So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?

Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
[close]
Idabble is the nail in the coffin
[close]

why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.
[close]

Yo but the idabble guy said that he's one of the most lucid people he knows, so I guess we were wrong
[close]

Bro, you're like the most lucid guy i know bro. There's no way you're just bullying these kids bro, you're just too lucid to do that man.


WHO THE FUCK HAS A "MOST LUCID" PERSON THEY KNOW OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD!?!?

That is one of the biggest loads of hollywood influencer bullshitspeak i've ever heard.
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HAHA we use lucid when describing my wife's grandmother who in her late nineties still has her wits about her.  Him using it to compliment Mikey Taylor is weird as fuck.

Mikey Alfred*

Gnar'd for not knowing them well enough to mix them up haha.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on November 29, 2022, 03:03:33 PM
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So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?

Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
[close]
Idabble is the nail in the coffin
[close]

why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.
[close]

Yo but the idabble guy said that he's one of the most lucid people he knows, so I guess we were wrong
[close]

Bro, you're like the most lucid guy i know bro. There's no way you're just bullying these kids bro, you're just too lucid to do that man.


WHO THE FUCK HAS A "MOST LUCID" PERSON THEY KNOW OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD!?!?

That is one of the biggest loads of hollywood influencer bullshitspeak i've ever heard.
[close]
HAHA we use lucid when describing my wife's grandmother who in her late nineties still has her wits about her.  Him using it to compliment Mikey Taylor is weird as fuck.
[close]

Mikey Alfred*

Gnar'd for not knowing them well enough to mix them up haha.
Oh Damn! I'm shit posting so much to make pal right now my proof-reading has gone straight out the window.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 29, 2022, 03:16:18 PM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY (https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY)

MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go

I've always considered idabble a discount 411vm, but this made me lose what little respect I had for them. Is it really that hard for people to push back on Mikey's bullshit to his face?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Punished Skateboards on November 29, 2022, 03:32:50 PM
Quote
immidiatly

(https://i.ibb.co/Rzs2yPR/AFB67966-B111-4-C1-A-BD35-0-D8447757550.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 29, 2022, 03:33:07 PM
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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

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I've always considered idabble a discount 411vm, but this made me lose what little respect I had for them. Is it really that hard for people to push back on Mikey's bullshit to his face?

How you gonna push back on a guy who's THAT lucid?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: offkilter on November 29, 2022, 03:44:10 PM
I take it all back, going on iDabble to spit some game was the ultimate power move and I think this Mikey guy is just a misunderstood genius and it all went over my head, can’t wait to see the video!
#lucid
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on November 29, 2022, 03:44:50 PM
“Yo bro, you are the most coherent person of sound state of mind I know!”
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: offkilter on November 29, 2022, 03:45:15 PM
My pineal gland was blocked but now I’m #lucid thanks to iDabble
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Post by: rukes on November 29, 2022, 03:53:26 PM
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So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?

Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY (https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY)

MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
[close]
Idabble is the nail in the coffin
[close]

why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.
[close]

Yo but the idabble guy said that he's one of the most lucid people he knows, so I guess we were wrong
[close]

Bro, you're like the most lucid guy i know bro. There's no way you're just bullying these kids bro, you're just too lucid to do that man.


WHO THE FUCK HAS A "MOST LUCID" PERSON THEY KNOW OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD!?!?

That is one of the biggest loads of hollywood influencer bullshitspeak i've ever heard.

We are living in a nightmare we can't bribe our way out of
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 29, 2022, 04:07:30 PM
“Yo bro, you are the most coherent person of sound state of mind I know!”

And I know lots of super lucid people too, but YOU, Mikey Alfred, owner of IC, collaborator of Doritos, are by far THE MOST lucid dude I know bro.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GrayCellGreen on November 29, 2022, 04:25:23 PM
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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
[close]

I've always considered idabble a discount 411vm, but this made me lose what little respect I had for them. Is it really that hard for people to push back on Mikey's bullshit to his face?
[close]

How you gonna push back on a guy who's THAT lucid?

Based on dude's spelling of immediately, its safe to assume he doesn't really know what lucid means.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on November 29, 2022, 04:37:47 PM
The Cool Ranch Dorito is the most important shape in Lucidian geometry
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: boneless900 on November 29, 2022, 05:08:05 PM
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MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
[close]

I've always considered idabble a discount 411vm, but this made me lose what little respect I had for them. Is it really that hard for people to push back on Mikey's bullshit to his face?
[close]

How you gonna push back on a guy who's THAT lucid?
[close]

Based on dude's spelling of immediately, its safe to assume he doesn't really know what lucid means.

conspiracy: Mikey Alfred's real name is Lou Sidd
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: skate_or_dingus on November 29, 2022, 07:03:49 PM
https://youtu.be/-iIs9mK8VSg
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 29, 2022, 11:29:21 PM
The Cool Ranch Dorito is the most important shape in Lucidian geometry

Gnarred
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Youoverthere on November 29, 2022, 11:29:41 PM
https://youtu.be/-iIs9mK8VSg
i just saw those dudes
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: beecee on November 29, 2022, 11:43:02 PM
idabble video gone?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: radcunt on November 30, 2022, 05:52:37 AM
They dabble alright
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Punished Skateboards on November 30, 2022, 06:11:57 AM
idabble video gone?

(https://i.ibb.co/5jvbs2p/4774-E675-97-D9-41-C4-A9-F6-51-CBD89-E370-F.png)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dropintopileout on November 30, 2022, 06:20:12 AM
That "lol" this poor bastard. This went from entertaining to watch to painful to witness.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on November 30, 2022, 06:25:55 AM
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[close]

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Mikey when the skate community starts to hate

https://youtu.be/WFY2kJ96jNY
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Rune Spliffberg on November 30, 2022, 06:29:19 AM
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idabble video gone?
[close]

(https://i.ibb.co/5jvbs2p/4774-E675-97-D9-41-C4-A9-F6-51-CBD89-E370-F.png)

this is such a obvious case of "Maybe it's you"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 30, 2022, 06:32:28 AM
“Black owned business” is such a weak fucking thing to hide behind
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 30, 2022, 06:48:48 AM
“Black owned business” is such a weak fucking thing to hide behind

True, but it's expected at this point.

I like how he makes generalizations about men when he surrounds himself with children.

wtf did he even mean by that line?

Most PEOPLE these days can't handle negative commentary, gender aside. He's clearly trying as hard as he can to stay on the favorable side of social politics by citing his "black owned business" and making general disparaging remarks about "men", since hating on men is currently fashionable/acceptable to some degree.

Berra is finally gonna lose that KOTY crown.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sometimeperhaps on November 30, 2022, 07:34:22 AM
I gotta say that Mikey’s push for Kook of the year is all time. The last month alone he’s dropped what, two or three terrible interviews along with countless terrible IG takes. It’s not even close this year, give this man his cool ranch crown.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 30, 2022, 07:35:47 AM
I gotta say that Mikey’s push for Kook of the year is all time. The last month alone he’s dropped what, two or three terrible interviews along with countless terrible IG takes. It’s not even close this year, give this man his cool ranch crown.

The race for KOTY is gonna start getting as calculated as SOTY.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: brucewillis on November 30, 2022, 07:56:25 AM
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So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?

Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY (https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY)

MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
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Idabble is the nail in the coffin
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why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.
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Yo but the idabble guy said that he's one of the most lucid people he knows, so I guess we were wrong
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Bro, you're like the most lucid guy i know bro. There's no way you're just bullying these kids bro, you're just too lucid to do that man.


WHO THE FUCK HAS A "MOST LUCID" PERSON THEY KNOW OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD!?!?

That is one of the biggest loads of hollywood influencer bullshitspeak i've ever heard.
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We are living in a nightmare we can't bribe our way out of
Listen to Jordan Maxham's music. That dude clearly don't know what lucid means.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on November 30, 2022, 08:00:56 AM
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So they acted up in the streets (not unlike Nak or Robert neal did in previous IC vids) and mikey didnt like that?

But then he "kept it in the edit"?

And then told them he would take that part out if they kept skating?

Because continuing to skate would show mikey that they understood it was wrong?

My brain is straight up not in shape enough for these mental gymnastics, im sorry, call me dumb w/e, theres not way ill ever be able to understand this.


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https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY (https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NXXHb8MWVY)

MIKEY ALFRED 700K INTERVIEW

Here we go
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Idabble is the nail in the coffin
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why does idabble suck? it should be cool, but its def not.
[close]

Yo but the idabble guy said that he's one of the most lucid people he knows, so I guess we were wrong
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Bro, you're like the most lucid guy i know bro. There's no way you're just bullying these kids bro, you're just too lucid to do that man.


WHO THE FUCK HAS A "MOST LUCID" PERSON THEY KNOW OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD!?!?

That is one of the biggest loads of hollywood influencer bullshitspeak i've ever heard.
[close]

We are living in a nightmare we can't bribe our way out of
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Listen to Jordan Maxham's music. That dude clearly don't know what lucid means.

Is he behind idabble?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: urbneathme on November 30, 2022, 08:40:44 AM
i can say honestly that i have never seen a single person craving the downfall of maxallure, a black owned business with basically the same trajectory as IC
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on November 30, 2022, 08:43:52 AM
I gotta say that Mikey’s push for Kook of the year is all time. The last month alone he’s dropped what, two or three terrible interviews along with countless terrible IG takes. It’s not even close this year, give this man his cool ranch crown.

Mickey Alfredo marketing strategies for 4th quarter 2022:

Steal footage from 15 year olds and hold it ransom for 6 figures
Groom teenage boys with weed and hamburgers instead of paying them to ride for your company
Call Jewish kids Nazis
Call former riders who you sponsored white supremacists for quitting your company
Claim the kids you stole from are modern day colonialists
Threaten your filmer with a lawsuit for trying to leave
Play the "support black business" card for sympathy
Play the "i met Virgil / Chappelle / Lil Wayne" card for clout
Brag about your scumbucket cousin who murdered two people in cold blood
Play the "criminal justice reformer" card by claiming to want to get him out early
Blame your riders for not pushing the brand and tell everyone their boards are selling like dogshit
Claim that youre sanding down their graphics to paint over them
Give away boards that you didnt sand graphics off of through the LAPD in compton (after bragging your homicidal cousin)
Shit on Kwhite and call him a woman beater after he jumps through hoops to say nothing bad about you
Continue hanging out with young kids you pick up from skateparks
Do random podcasts making an absolute fool of yourself
Hold a video premier where noone from the skate industry shows up, so you sing songs and do magic tricks
Brag publicly about blackmailing teenagers to ride for IC by holding compromising footage over their heads
Say "fuck the skate community" while trying to salvage an imploded Braille-tier company
Never apologize or develop self-awareness


He actually needs to be institutionalized, KOTY run unmatched this year.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on November 30, 2022, 08:48:41 AM
“Black owned business” is such a weak fucking thing to hide behind

The Tumblrification of skateboarding.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TwisT on November 30, 2022, 08:57:04 AM
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I gotta say that Mikey’s push for Kook of the year is all time. The last month alone he’s dropped what, two or three terrible interviews along with countless terrible IG takes. It’s not even close this year, give this man his cool ranch crown.
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Mickey Alfredo marketing strategies for 4th quarter 2022:

Steal footage from 15 year olds and hold it ransom for 6 figures
Groom teenage boys with weed and hamburgers instead of paying them to ride for your company
Call Jewish kids Nazis
Call former riders who you sponsored white supremacists for quitting your company
Claim the kids you stole from are modern day colonialists
Threaten your filmer with a lawsuit for trying to leave
Play the "support black business" card for sympathy
Play the "i met Virgil / Chappelle / Lil Wayne" card for clout
Brag about your scumbucket cousin who murdered two people in cold blood
Play the "criminal justice reformer" card by claiming to want to get him out early
Blame your riders for not pushing the brand and tell everyone their boards are selling like dogshit
Claim that youre sanding down their graphics to paint over them
Give away boards that you didnt sand graphics off of through the LAPD in compton (after bragging your homicidal cousin)
Shit on Kwhite and call him a woman beater after he jumps through hoops to say nothing bad about you
Continue hanging out with young kids you pick up from skateparks
Do random podcasts making an absolute fool of yourself
Hold a video premier where noone from the skate industry shows up, so you sing songs and do magic tricks
Brag publicly about blackmailing teenagers to ride for IC by holding compromising footage over their heads
Say "fuck the skate community" while trying to salvage an imploded Braille-tier company
Never apologize or develop self-awareness


He actually needs to be institutionalized, KOTY run unmatched this year.

to be fair, rob mattox in the jenkem article said he was getting paid a little. So atleast some kids were getting something more than burgers
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on November 30, 2022, 11:53:34 AM
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I gotta say that Mikey’s push for Kook of the year is all time. The last month alone he’s dropped what, two or three terrible interviews along with countless terrible IG takes. It’s not even close this year, give this man his cool ranch crown.
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Mickey Alfredo marketing strategies for 4th quarter 2022:

Steal footage from 15 year olds and hold it ransom for 6 figures
Groom teenage boys with weed and hamburgers instead of paying them to ride for your company
Call Jewish kids Nazis
Call former riders who you sponsored white supremacists for quitting your company
Claim the kids you stole from are modern day colonialists
Threaten your filmer with a lawsuit for trying to leave
Play the "support black business" card for sympathy
Play the "i met Virgil / Chappelle / Lil Wayne" card for clout
Brag about your scumbucket cousin who murdered two people in cold blood
Play the "criminal justice reformer" card by claiming to want to get him out early
Blame your riders for not pushing the brand and tell everyone their boards are selling like dogshit
Claim that youre sanding down their graphics to paint over them
Give away boards that you didnt sand graphics off of through the LAPD in compton (after bragging your homicidal cousin)
Shit on Kwhite and call him a woman beater after he jumps through hoops to say nothing bad about you
Continue hanging out with young kids you pick up from skateparks
Do random podcasts making an absolute fool of yourself
Hold a video premier where noone from the skate industry shows up, so you sing songs and do magic tricks
Brag publicly about blackmailing teenagers to ride for IC by holding compromising footage over their heads
Say "fuck the skate community" while trying to salvage an imploded Braille-tier company
Never apologize or develop self-awareness


He actually needs to be institutionalized, KOTY run unmatched this year.

"and now for my next trick, i'm going to make the whole team disappear"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on November 30, 2022, 12:00:36 PM
i can say honestly that i have never seen a single person craving the downfall of maxallure, a black owned business with basically the same trajectory as IC

Is gang corp black owned? Anyway when they drop edits it’s always a good watch
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TwisT on November 30, 2022, 12:12:27 PM
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Is gang corp black owned? Anyway when they drop edits it’s always a good watch

list of black owned skate brands to support or pray for downfall
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hkG5OMnBbhmEqe5aasHGV74LLWRbR9wXebzVv3HWuqE/edit#gid=0
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: formula420 on November 30, 2022, 12:14:38 PM
i can say honestly that i have never seen a single person craving the downfall of maxallure, a black owned business with basically the same trajectory as IC

That's an insult to MA. Karl Watsons brand is not even close to the same trajectory as mikeys brand. I really don't see any connection at all.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on November 30, 2022, 12:18:00 PM
That "lol" this poor bastard. This went from entertaining to watch to painful to witness.
Speak for yourself, amigo: this shit’s still entertaining as all fuck over here.
I’m busy roasting marshmallows over the flames of this wreck. ‘Bout to make me some S’mores & shit.
Thanks Mikey!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 30, 2022, 12:37:11 PM
Man who runs a skate company posting "Fuck skateboarders" and giving illegal civ socks to hertz employees on his IG story. Gotta give it away for free to random herbs because skaters don't fuck with him
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: boogs on November 30, 2022, 12:48:22 PM
Man who runs a skate company posting "Fuck skateboarders" and giving illegal civ socks to hertz employees on his IG story. Gotta give it away for free to random herbs because skaters don't fuck with him
tax write off
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: cky enthusiast on November 30, 2022, 12:53:42 PM
i’ll give anyone in this thread a hertz donut for free
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: elbarto on November 30, 2022, 12:58:24 PM
How tf did Maxham not grasp why that incoherent fever dream ass 2 minute “interview” didn’t clear things up? I really want to back iDabble but damn shit like this is such a bad look lmfao
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: thebacker on November 30, 2022, 12:59:54 PM
How tf did Maxham not grasp why that incoherent fever dream ass 2 minute “interview” didn’t clear things up? I really want to back iDabble but damn shit like this is such a bad look lmfao

probably because maxham's brain is too fried from acid
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on November 30, 2022, 01:02:07 PM
Jenkem got some intel on the premiere they published in their stories. I didn't catch any of it but saw this dude uploaded a summary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzM_SwAvNCM
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on November 30, 2022, 04:15:13 PM
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How tf did Maxham not grasp why that incoherent fever dream ass 2 minute “interview” didn’t clear things up? I really want to back iDabble but damn shit like this is such a bad look lmfao
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probably because maxham's brain is too fried from acid

i'm convinced that Maxham has little to no idea what he's doing behind a camera. Would be helpful if he had a solid film crew behind him doing the filming and editing (and spellchecking) but him posting an "interview" like this and slapping iDabble's name on it is a really poor look for iDabble. I want to support shit like iDabble because i back a chunk of the dudes they're affiliated with, but they gotta step it up from some thing like this. Hell they can use the money they're making from iDabble to send Maxham to a community college filmmaking and/or journalism class so we don't have to see trainwrecks like this so called "interview"
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: gumsole on November 30, 2022, 04:30:34 PM
100% idabble will not do anything again with IC. Maxham didn't remove the video cause "it didn't help people see Mikey in a good light". He removed it because it was a garbage ass interview that didn't make any sense and it made idabble/Jordan look moronic.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: georgethecat on November 30, 2022, 04:32:43 PM
100% idabble will not do anything again with IC. Maxham didn't remove the video cause "it didn't help people see Mikey in a good light". He removed it because it was a garbage ass interview that didn't make any sense and it made idabble/Jordan look moronic.

Tomayto, tomahto.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: honey island on November 30, 2022, 04:34:07 PM
jordan maxham dapped me up once, he was wearing a yellow blazer and a hundreds hat with a propeller on it, it was 11am, ama
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on November 30, 2022, 04:42:27 PM
Jenkem got some intel on the premiere they published in their stories. I didn't catch any of it but saw this dude uploaded a summary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzM_SwAvNCM

Incredible that this video opens with shit about Mikey. No one cares about your life in skateboarding. You can't even kickflip and you're trying to hit us with the mini biopic
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: $$LESH on November 30, 2022, 05:02:25 PM
jordan maxham dapped me up once, he was wearing a yellow blazer and a hundreds hat with a propeller on it, it was 11am, ama

was this before or after he started an onlyfans
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lewisnewton on November 30, 2022, 08:56:23 PM
Mickey texting himself words of affirmation??? I think so…
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Coldpizza on November 30, 2022, 08:57:49 PM
Can this now happen with Rip ‘n’ Dip?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: TwisT on November 30, 2022, 09:01:58 PM
Can this now happen with Rip ‘n’ Dip?

Ripndip strategically became a faceless brand. No team, no owner, no accountability.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: urbneathme on November 30, 2022, 09:02:51 PM
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That's an insult to MA. Karl Watsons brand is not even close to the same trajectory as mikeys brand. I really don't see any connection at all.

they both started around the same time and were distributed by baker boys at im pretty sure the exact time. obviously karl and mikey have totally different places in the industry. i more just meant that they were a similar size at a similar time with literally the same backing
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 30, 2022, 09:05:44 PM
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Can this now happen with Rip ‘n’ Dip?
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Ripndip strategically became a faceless brand. No team, no owner, no accountability.

Apparently ex-flip rider Oscar Meza is on their team.   He had an ad for them in the latest thrasher
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: formula420 on November 30, 2022, 09:12:57 PM
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i can say honestly that i have never seen a single person craving the downfall of maxallure, a black owned business with basically the same trajectory as IC
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That's an insult to MA. Karl Watsons brand is not even close to the same trajectory as mikeys brand. I really don't see any connection at all.
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they both started around the same time and were distributed by baker boys at im pretty sure the exact time. obviously karl and mikey have totally different places in the industry. i more just meant that they were a similar size at a similar time with literally the same backing

Fuck ic was baker boys? I had no idea. Boss sleeping at the wheel on that one
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: urbneathme on November 30, 2022, 09:14:26 PM
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i can say honestly that i have never seen a single person craving the downfall of maxallure, a black owned business with basically the same trajectory as IC
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That's an insult to MA. Karl Watsons brand is not even close to the same trajectory as mikeys brand. I really don't see any connection at all.
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they both started around the same time and were distributed by baker boys at im pretty sure the exact time. obviously karl and mikey have totally different places in the industry. i more just meant that they were a similar size at a similar time with literally the same backing
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Fuck ic was baker boys? I had no idea. Boss sleeping at the wheel on that one

he hyped up mikey personally on his nine club episode if i remember correctly
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: ice nine on November 30, 2022, 09:23:50 PM
hell week prolly has better filming than play dead
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: slapcurbsnotwomen on November 30, 2022, 10:03:39 PM
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Can this now happen with Rip ‘n’ Dip?
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Ripndip strategically became a faceless brand. No team, no owner, no accountability.
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Apparently ex-flip rider Oscar Meza is on their team.   He had an ad for them in the latest thrasher

Dudes art fucking SUCKS.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on November 30, 2022, 10:04:42 PM
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Can this now happen with Rip ‘n’ Dip?
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Ripndip strategically became a faceless brand. No team, no owner, no accountability.
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Apparently ex-flip rider Oscar Meza is on their team.   He had an ad for them in the latest thrasher
there’s a name I haven’t heard in like 10 years
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on December 01, 2022, 05:48:18 AM
Now he wants IC fans to punish anyone supporting racists Logan and Bam and their "Black filmer Kid"

I guess fuck black business if it's not illegal civ

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on December 01, 2022, 05:52:16 AM
Now he wants IC fans to punish anyone supporting racists Logan and Bam and their "Black filmer Kid"

I guess fuck black business if it's not illegal civ

How TF are IC fans supposed to do that?

I don't imagine any of them have any authority over anyone, at least not enough to "punish".

Did he openly say this?
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Post by: The Ghost of Lenny Kirk on December 01, 2022, 06:01:17 AM
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Play the "i met Virgil / Chappelle / Lil Wayne" card for clout


i remember a clip in the 2nd IC video (probably? )where he's talking to Lil Wayne about "cutting people off" and "loyalty" as if he was that famous and successful. It was a bit presumptuous. Made me wonder if he has any real relationships.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dropintopileout on December 01, 2022, 06:02:24 AM
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That "lol" this poor bastard. This went from entertaining to watch to painful to witness.
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Speak for yourself, amigo: this shit’s still entertaining as all fuck over here.
I’m busy roasting marshmallows over the flames of this wreck. ‘Bout to make me some S’mores & shit.
Thanks Mikey!

I'd be right there next to you with the grams crackers but I genuinely believe this kid is suffering from some form of a mental illness. He's delusional, doesn't see reality as it is.

Anyone else woulda been like yeah that vlog was whack, whole situation ended there. But Alfredo seems incapable of that. All these bizzaro actions since are just mind boggling. hes like a child in an almost 30 year olds body
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on December 01, 2022, 06:03:49 AM
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Now he wants IC fans to punish anyone supporting racists Logan and Bam and their "Black filmer Kid"

I guess fuck black business if it's not illegal civ
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How TF are IC fans supposed to do that?

I don't imagine any of them have any authority over anyone, at least not enough to "punish".

Did he openly say this?

Yes, on IC story now, I can never figure out photos on mobile tho
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: formula420 on December 01, 2022, 06:10:27 AM
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Now he wants IC fans to punish anyone supporting racists Logan and Bam and their "Black filmer Kid"

I guess fuck black business if it's not illegal civ
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How TF are IC fans supposed to do that?

I don't imagine any of them have any authority over anyone, at least not enough to "punish".

Did he openly say this?
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Yes, on IC story now, I can never figure out photos on mobile tho

He called the kids racist again so I reported the stories for hate speech. Maybe if we all do they can get booted from insta.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on December 01, 2022, 06:19:52 AM
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Now he wants IC fans to punish anyone supporting racists Logan and Bam and their "Black filmer Kid"

I guess fuck black business if it's not illegal civ
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How TF are IC fans supposed to do that?

I don't imagine any of them have any authority over anyone, at least not enough to "punish".

Did he openly say this?
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Yes, on IC story now, I can never figure out photos on mobile tho

ah gotcha, i def dont follow them haha.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: big_kev_215 on December 01, 2022, 06:30:52 AM
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Now he wants IC fans to punish anyone supporting racists Logan and Bam and their "Black filmer Kid"

I guess fuck black business if it's not illegal civ
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How TF are IC fans supposed to do that?

I don't imagine any of them have any authority over anyone, at least not enough to "punish".

Did he openly say this?
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Yes, on IC story now, I can never figure out photos on mobile tho

“These kids are bullies” - grown ass man Mikey A (as he’s publicly bullying and slandering them on social media)…

Literal criminals notwithstanding, Mikey might be the biggest joke of a person in skateboarding history
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sid Farkus - Bra Salesman on December 01, 2022, 06:45:39 AM
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Now he wants IC fans to punish anyone supporting racists Logan and Bam and their "Black filmer Kid"

I guess fuck black business if it's not illegal civ
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How TF are IC fans supposed to do that?

I don't imagine any of them have any authority over anyone, at least not enough to "punish".

Did he openly say this?
They'll spend their allowance somewhere else
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Blueabyssofthisss on December 01, 2022, 06:57:24 AM
Didn’t that mark oblow thing happen this year? He deserves kook of the year more imo
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on December 01, 2022, 07:58:22 AM
Didn’t that mark oblow thing happen this year? He deserves kook of the year more imo

That was the dude that downplayed the Gator shit right?

If so, that was only one instance of kookery.

Mikey has been on a fucking kook tear, clearly making a suicu-esque KOTY push.

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: coldbrew on December 01, 2022, 08:23:57 AM
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Didn’t that mark oblow thing happen this year? He deserves kook of the year more imo
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That was the dude that downplayed the Gator shit right?

If so, that was only one instance of kookery.

Mikey has been on a fucking kook tear, clearly making a suicu-esque KOTY push.

Can't wait for his final push. "Versos" but in the Doritos logo.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on December 01, 2022, 08:32:40 AM
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Didn’t that mark oblow thing happen this year? He deserves kook of the year more imo
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That was the dude that downplayed the Gator shit right?

If so, that was only one instance of kookery.

Mikey has been on a fucking kook tear, clearly making a suicu-esque KOTY push.
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Can't wait for his final push. "Versos" but in the Doritos logo.

10 minute interview of Mikey dissing kids, and then doing the inverse diss (praising himself) for the same shit.

A well thought out kook-sterpiece.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BurgerCop on December 01, 2022, 08:43:21 AM
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i can say honestly that i have never seen a single person craving the downfall of maxallure, a black owned business with basically the same trajectory as IC
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Is gang corp black owned? Anyway when they drop edits it’s always a good watch
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list of black owned skate brands to support or pray for downfall
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hkG5OMnBbhmEqe5aasHGV74LLWRbR9wXebzVv3HWuqE/edit#gid=0

List is missing Gas Giants!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: jakeumms on December 01, 2022, 11:44:27 AM
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Didn’t that mark oblow thing happen this year? He deserves kook of the year more imo
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That was the dude that downplayed the Gator shit right?

If so, that was only one instance of kookery.

Mikey has been on a fucking kook tear, clearly making a suicu-esque KOTY push.
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Can't wait for his final push. "Versos" but in the Doritos logo.
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10 minute interview of Mikey dissing kids, and then doing the inverse diss (praising himself) for the same shit.

A well thought out kook-sterpiece.
Mirror munching...super powerful triangle shape means it's nearly always a mirror of the last Dorito
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sus on December 01, 2022, 01:10:39 PM
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Now he wants IC fans to punish anyone supporting racists Logan and Bam and their "Black filmer Kid"

I guess fuck black business if it's not illegal civ
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How TF are IC fans supposed to do that?

I don't imagine any of them have any authority over anyone, at least not enough to "punish".

Did he openly say this?
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Yes, on IC story now, I can never figure out photos on mobile tho
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He called the kids racist again so I reported the stories for hate speech. Maybe if we all do they can get booted from insta.

(https://i.imgur.com/k5VVDy2.jpg)

being a grown-ass man and asking your fanbase to punish a bunch of minors gotta be illegal (no pun intended) in some way. Also gotta be some level of defamation calling these kids racist without any cause or proof

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sketch Hitchcock on December 01, 2022, 01:13:46 PM
Damn KOTY ‘22 is really heating up, wonder if TSilv or Mikey T will drop another banger in next couple days to top this.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: coldbrew on December 01, 2022, 01:16:14 PM
Might have to cop that "clips back" tee
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BacksideWallride on December 01, 2022, 01:54:20 PM
Anyone catch this? Are these the angles?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luz-qwX5tP4
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on December 01, 2022, 02:54:42 PM
Might have to cop that "clips back" tee

A wise investment my friend


My big gripe is how Mikey clearly built a launch ramp for his ender
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Christmas Complete on December 01, 2022, 03:01:40 PM
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That "lol" this poor bastard. This went from entertaining to watch to painful to witness.
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Speak for yourself, amigo: this shit’s still entertaining as all fuck over here.
I’m busy roasting marshmallows over the flames of this wreck. ‘Bout to make me some S’mores & shit.
Thanks Mikey!
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I'd be right there next to you with the grams crackers but I genuinely believe this kid is suffering from some form of a mental illness. He's delusional, doesn't see reality as it is.

Anyone else woulda been like yeah that vlog was whack, whole situation ended there. But Alfredo seems incapable of that. All these bizzaro actions since are just mind boggling. hes like a child in an almost 30 year olds body

You just described the near entirety of pro skateboarding
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GAY on December 01, 2022, 03:07:07 PM
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Didn’t that mark oblow thing happen this year? He deserves kook of the year more imo
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That was the dude that downplayed the Gator shit right?

If so, that was only one instance of kookery.

Mikey has been on a fucking kook tear, clearly making a suicu-esque KOTY push.

Kalkulated Kookery
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on December 02, 2022, 04:03:51 AM
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Didn’t that mark oblow thing happen this year? He deserves kook of the year more imo
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That was the dude that downplayed the Gator shit right?

If so, that was only one instance of kookery.

Mikey has been on a fucking kook tear, clearly making a suicu-esque KOTY push.
If we equated Mikey’s KOTY 2022 push to a video part, it would be roughly 2 hours and 53 minutes long, and every trick would be an ender.  I did the math, no need to check me on it.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dark Knight on December 02, 2022, 05:17:24 AM
“Black owned business” is such a weak fucking thing to hide behind

Pisses me off (I’m black btw)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: vinithebr on December 02, 2022, 06:54:05 AM
“Black owned business” is such a weak fucking thing to hide behind
Specially when you are the whitest black guy a black guy that seems to idolizes white culture.

edit:clarification
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: boogs on December 04, 2022, 06:53:20 PM
cool ranch
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: bluntfullofmid on December 11, 2022, 11:44:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-LhFfU6ixs

popped up on my youtube so i had to tap in. looks like mikey was telling the truth about the footy of the kids assaulting the security guard. watching the clip it looks like its in the same vain as the infamous GX1000 situation.
(clip starts @ 1:31)
dont get me wrong, i'm still screamin fuck mikey alfred's goofy ass but you have to agree that if you were putting out a video, in any capacity, you probably wouldnt wanna put this clip in your vid or *knock on wood* deal with any legal ramifications if things went south
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Blueabyssofthisss on December 11, 2022, 12:48:55 PM
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“Black owned business” is such a weak fucking thing to hide behind
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Specially when you are the whitest black guy
“the whitest black guy”
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: brent on December 11, 2022, 02:25:41 PM
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“Black owned business” is such a weak fucking thing to hide behind
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Specially when you are the whitest black guy
fuck you
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: vinithebr on December 11, 2022, 09:48:07 PM
C'mon I'm talking his ideals, Mickey Alfred doesn't give a fuck about black culture unless it benefits him, reaffirmed by his recent actions. Tyshawn just started a brand and is already doing better representation than all of IC.

But if that still doesn't make sense I'll just take the L, stuff without straightforward meaning can get fucked during translation from pt to eng.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: big_kev_215 on December 15, 2022, 07:54:33 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/DrdVTBQ/0-F12-D0-E0-8303-4-BC5-812-E-66-EF8-C446250.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrdVTBQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/6ZtS43B/DCEE056-A-DC4-A-461-A-AFBB-9930-C3341235.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6ZtS43B)

Alert: new Illegal Civ graphic friends

Also, apparently Mikey of understanding the difference between “a part” and “apart”

Guess we all can’t be masters at everything…
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Natas Fauxas on December 15, 2022, 08:54:09 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/DrdVTBQ/0-F12-D0-E0-8303-4-BC5-812-E-66-EF8-C446250.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrdVTBQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/6ZtS43B/DCEE056-A-DC4-A-461-A-AFBB-9930-C3341235.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6ZtS43B)

Alert: new Illegal Civ graphic friends

Also, apparently Mikey of understanding the difference between “a part” and “apart”

Guess we all can’t be masters at everything…

Ill bet these are just flying off the shelves. This dude is fucking delusional.

Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: big_kev_215 on December 15, 2022, 09:24:10 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/DrdVTBQ/0-F12-D0-E0-8303-4-BC5-812-E-66-EF8-C446250.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrdVTBQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/6ZtS43B/DCEE056-A-DC4-A-461-A-AFBB-9930-C3341235.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6ZtS43B)

Alert: new Illegal Civ graphic friends

Also, apparently Mikey of understanding the difference between “a part” and “apart”

Guess we all can’t be masters at everything…
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Ill bet these are just flying off the shelves. This dude is fucking delusional.

iLL BET THEY ARE JUST FLYING OFF THE SHELVES.

I’d buy one of these weird things as a joke if they came in something other than just 8.25”

What’s the wheelbase Michael???
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Murge on December 16, 2022, 04:39:32 AM
I just now notice his capital I looks like an L. Lllegal civ
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 16, 2022, 06:14:57 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/DrdVTBQ/0-F12-D0-E0-8303-4-BC5-812-E-66-EF8-C446250.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrdVTBQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/6ZtS43B/DCEE056-A-DC4-A-461-A-AFBB-9930-C3341235.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6ZtS43B)

Alert: new Illegal Civ graphic friends

Also, apparently Mikey of understanding the difference between “a part” and “apart”

Guess we all can’t be masters at everything…

True, but after seeing Reynolds write “porportion” instead of “proportion” on one of his shoe napkins, I’m realizing I can’t really hold any skater to any standard when it comes to the 3 Rs
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Post by: manysnakes on December 16, 2022, 06:16:37 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/DrdVTBQ/0-F12-D0-E0-8303-4-BC5-812-E-66-EF8-C446250.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrdVTBQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/6ZtS43B/DCEE056-A-DC4-A-461-A-AFBB-9930-C3341235.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6ZtS43B)

Alert: new Illegal Civ graphic friends

Also, apparently Mikey of understanding the difference between “a part” and “apart”

Guess we all can’t be masters at everything…
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True, but after seeing Reynolds write “porportion” instead of “proportion” on one of his shoe napkins, I’m realizing I can’t really hold any skater to any standard when it comes to the 3 Rs

Reynolds on dyslexia
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on December 16, 2022, 06:24:51 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/DrdVTBQ/0-F12-D0-E0-8303-4-BC5-812-E-66-EF8-C446250.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrdVTBQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/6ZtS43B/DCEE056-A-DC4-A-461-A-AFBB-9930-C3341235.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6ZtS43B)

Alert: new Illegal Civ graphic friends

Also, apparently Mikey of understanding the difference between “a part” and “apart”

Guess we all can’t be masters at everything…
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True, but after seeing Reynolds write “porportion” instead of “proportion” on one of his shoe napkins, I’m realizing I can’t really hold any skater to any standard when it comes to the 3 Rs
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Reynolds on dyslexia

IC is consistently some of the most low effort shit I’ve seen in a long time, does he color the background on any of these graphics? They all look like doodles you do in class filled in with colored pencil
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: rawbertson. on December 16, 2022, 06:38:48 AM
not only that, but he has to have an actual artist come in after the fact and "clean up" his drawing. so what you see here isnt even really mikey drawing it  ;D he shows it on his little doritos thing the REAL artist!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Correy_Websturd on December 16, 2022, 07:14:24 AM
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Weird people are putting Jonah Hill and Mikey in the same camp. Jonah Hill is way cooler than Mikey Alfred. I've always thought Mikey was the worst, but when that interview came out talking shit on Spike Jones, that was the final straw. Hopefully he gets blacklisted from Hollywood.
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Yeah like Jonahs at least actually done a bunch of legit stuff. Problem with blacklisting and banning people is in their minds it just reaffirms their belief that everyone's trying to hold them back and that's why they aren't successful and not their general lack of talent.
They so alike that these should get together.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on December 16, 2022, 07:18:31 AM
47 pages on a psycho
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Post by: GrayCellGreen on December 16, 2022, 07:49:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHrt43TwG5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHrt43TwG5I)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Newphone on December 16, 2022, 07:59:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHrt43TwG5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHrt43TwG5I)

Wow. That’s unhinged.  With how bad IC is, King feels like a lateral move.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on December 16, 2022, 08:33:01 AM
Always got the smart comments lol

Also when the hell is “hell week” ever going to come?

(https://i.ibb.co/nzZSwTZ/5-EF0-E88-E-76-D0-430-A-A064-9296-C63-A2298.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nzZSwTZ)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: boogs on December 16, 2022, 10:04:30 AM
hella weak
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Post by: HisNameIsntWarren on December 16, 2022, 10:26:09 AM
Hell ya more 50-50 shove outs yeewwww!!!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: OnSlapAtWork on December 16, 2022, 10:43:40 AM
He wasn't lying when he said their company had hit an apex in the doritos commercial.  Dude should have googled what the definition of an apex is.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WPG on December 16, 2022, 10:59:41 AM


Also when the hell is “hell week” ever going to come?


In the youtube description he mentions going to illegalciv.xyz (Bozos site doesn't even load) to reserve a spot to watch hell weak.

I guess he is going the same route as North Hollywood since no one wants to actually go see his shitty movies/videos so he sells tickets to live stream them. Judging by the turnout at the first premiere his plans to show it in other cities are definitely off the table and when less than 100 ppl reserve a spot to stream this crap hopefully Mikey will see the writing on the wall
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Arto!Arto!WakeUp! on December 16, 2022, 12:28:23 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHrt43TwG5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHrt43TwG5I)
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Wow. That’s unhinged.  With how bad IC is, King feels like a lateral move.

some of our skaters quit but it's cool because their footage sucked not that we're a sucky brand or anything anyway here's a video of the footage i didn't even want for my video
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Post by: Newphone on December 16, 2022, 12:52:03 PM
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Wow. That’s unhinged.  With how bad IC is, King feels like a lateral move.
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some of our skaters quit but it's cool because their footage sucked not that we're a sucky brand or anything anyway here's a video of the footage i didn't even want for my video

Haha, to be clear those kids were all ripping, hope to see everyone at n this on somthing better soon.  I hope Mikey gets the help he needs and stops digging his way to China.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: childhood on December 16, 2022, 04:43:47 PM
Hate to admit it, but a classic Frank Sinatra song & the first like 10 seconds of a Ralo track is great music supervision honestly
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Dopethrone on December 16, 2022, 09:16:44 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/DrdVTBQ/0-F12-D0-E0-8303-4-BC5-812-E-66-EF8-C446250.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrdVTBQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/6ZtS43B/DCEE056-A-DC4-A-461-A-AFBB-9930-C3341235.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6ZtS43B)

Alert: new Illegal Civ graphic friends

Also, apparently Mikey of understanding the difference between “a part” and “apart”

Guess we all can’t be masters at everything…
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True, but after seeing Reynolds write “porportion” instead of “proportion” on one of his shoe napkins, I’m realizing I can’t really hold any skater to any standard when it comes to the 3 Rs
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Reynolds on dyslexia
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IC is consistently some of the most low effort shit I’ve seen in a long time, does he color the background on any of these graphics? They all look like doodles you do in class filled in with colored pencil


I dont get it as much as I hate mikey and illegal civ is gone art really any better than his? (I'm a fan of gonz)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sizzle on December 16, 2022, 09:30:06 PM
Illegal Civ videos look like if you tried to make the best skate video possible off insta clips but you couldn’t use anything with more than 800 likes
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: doublesteveburger on December 16, 2022, 09:39:43 PM
dude you are fried if you’re comparing gonz art to this fuckin bland ranch dorito
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Post by: sus on December 16, 2022, 11:49:38 PM
dude you are fried if you’re comparing gonz art to this fuckin bland ranch dorito
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Allez_Jambon on December 17, 2022, 12:33:35 AM
Always got the smart comments lol

Also when the hell is “hell week” ever going to come?

(https://i.ibb.co/nzZSwTZ/5-EF0-E88-E-76-D0-430-A-A064-9296-C63-A2298.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nzZSwTZ)

isn't that kid commenting supporting the brand by wanting the jersey? seems like the only kid liking the company gets shit on by the owner. nice going idiot.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fs1/2cab on December 17, 2022, 04:07:58 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmO73o3rOGB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/p/CmO73o3rOGB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)

What does this post mean? English isn't my first language, but still. The photos together with that caption don't make much sense to me honestly.
Either way, not a good look.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 17, 2022, 05:58:07 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmO73o3rOGB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/p/CmO73o3rOGB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)

What does this post mean? English isn't my first language, but still. The photos together with that caption don't make much sense to me honestly.
Either way, not a good look.

I guess if someone not being nice to you makes you sad, you get kicked off IC Weiner
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: fs1/2cab on December 17, 2022, 08:20:58 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CmO73o3rOGB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/p/CmO73o3rOGB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)

What does this post mean? English isn't my first language, but still. The photos together with that caption don't make much sense to me honestly.
Either way, not a good look.
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I guess if someone not being nice to you makes you sad, you get kicked off IC Weiner

(https://i.postimg.cc/8zP7bXNw/Screenshot-20221217-160513-Samsung-Internet-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: urbneathme on December 17, 2022, 09:15:38 AM
i hope he makes a youtube video for every one of his friends that will no longer be appearing in IC videos
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GauchoAmigo on December 17, 2022, 10:41:26 AM
Hate to admit it, but a classic Frank Sinatra song & the first like 10 seconds of a Ralo track is great music supervision honestly
Who is Ralo? The end track is "Love Love Love" by Pugh Rogefelt. As famously sampled by DJ Shadow on "Mutual Slump" - as much of a fuckboy Mikey is, these are two good tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGgICkenjvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6X_e0FPVCg
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 17, 2022, 10:49:52 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CmO73o3rOGB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/p/CmO73o3rOGB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)

What does this post mean? English isn't my first language, but still. The photos together with that caption don't make much sense to me honestly.
Either way, not a good look.
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I guess if someone not being nice to you makes you sad, you get kicked off IC Weiner
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(https://i.postimg.cc/8zP7bXNw/Screenshot-20221217-160513-Samsung-Internet-2.jpg)

I knew this crowd would get that right away.   Wasn’t that someone’s avatar image?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: lilyung on December 17, 2022, 12:48:44 PM
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Hate to admit it, but a classic Frank Sinatra song & the first like 10 seconds of a Ralo track is great music supervision honestly
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Who is Ralo? The end track is "Love Love Love" by Pugh Rogefelt. As famously sampled by DJ Shadow on "Mutual Slump" - as much of a fuckboy Mikey is, these are two good tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AnHq2J6lR0
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: No Wave Comply on December 21, 2022, 01:48:45 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/DrdVTBQ/0-F12-D0-E0-8303-4-BC5-812-E-66-EF8-C446250.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrdVTBQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/6ZtS43B/DCEE056-A-DC4-A-461-A-AFBB-9930-C3341235.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6ZtS43B)

Alert: new Illegal Civ graphic friends

Also, apparently Mikey of understanding the difference between “a part” and “apart”

Guess we all can’t be masters at everything…
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True, but after seeing Reynolds write “porportion” instead of “proportion” on one of his shoe napkins, I’m realizing I can’t really hold any skater to any standard when it comes to the 3 Rs
[close]

Reynolds on dyslexia
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IC is consistently some of the most low effort shit I’ve seen in a long time, does he color the background on any of these graphics? They all look like doodles you do in class filled in with colored pencil
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I dont get it as much as I hate mikey and illegal civ is gone [sic] art really any better than his? (I'm a fan of gonz)

Yes. Yes, Gonz’s art is much better than Mikey Alfred’s drawings. Yes it is.

Go back to his first self-drawn Vision graphics, through bLind, ATM Click, 60/40, up to Krooked, along with all his non-board company art and you’ll wake up to reality.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on January 06, 2023, 05:15:07 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/DzHSsQC/939-DB4-CF-4782-4328-906-A-8-AD85888-BE2-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DzHSsQC)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on January 06, 2023, 07:20:00 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/DzHSsQC/939-DB4-CF-4782-4328-906-A-8-AD85888-BE2-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DzHSsQC)

I thought cast iron mf'ers hated soap? Doesn't matter if you re-season right after or what?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: landedprimo on January 06, 2023, 07:29:34 AM
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I thought cast iron mf'ers hated soap? Doesn't matter if you re-season right after or what?

You can wash them and season them again, but the more the seasoning, the more the extra flavor and protection from rust, etc.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sometimeperhaps on January 06, 2023, 07:45:54 AM
I remember reading somewhere that the whole “don’t use soap” thing comes from a time decades back where soap had an additive that was bad for the seasoning/cast iron. If your pan is seasoned properly, a little bit of soap here and there won’t cause any problems.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on January 06, 2023, 07:54:14 AM
I remember reading somewhere that the whole “don’t use soap” thing comes from a time decades back where soap had an additive that was bad for the seasoning/cast iron. If your pan is seasoned properly, a little bit of soap here and there won’t cause any problems.

Lye soap I believe
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Newphone on January 06, 2023, 08:07:11 AM
Non stick guy for life. I got that Teflon coursing through my veins!!!
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: left knee cap on January 16, 2023, 08:03:26 AM
bringing this back because I need some questions answered

I haven't used my cast iron since June, would it be safe to say I would need to season again for it to get it back to cooking standard

do you guys recommend a steel scrubber? looks medieval to me
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: dannyprovolone on January 16, 2023, 08:07:59 AM
no soap?

i dont want my eggs tasting like taco meat

palmolive always worked fine on mine
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: left knee cap on January 16, 2023, 08:12:19 AM
no soap?

i dont want my eggs tasting like taco meat

palmolive always worked fine on mine

i've just been using kosher salt maybe its time to experiment
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: oyolar on January 16, 2023, 08:18:06 AM
bringing this back because I need some questions answered

I haven't used my cast iron since June, would it be safe to say I would need to season again for it to get it back to cooking standard

do you guys recommend a steel scrubber? looks medieval to me

Is there rust on it? If no, you should’ve ok to cook on it and see. Just try something small or simple on it.

And I seriously cannot stress this enough: it’s ok to use soap on cast iron. If you seasoned it properly, don’t let it soak in the water, and then use heat to dry it off and run in a little oil after it’s dry and while it’s still hot, it will be fine.  If you’re just wiping out a cast iron with a paper towel, it’s just gross and the food particles and old oil will go rancid.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: WavyDavy on January 16, 2023, 08:18:41 AM
Can I use a cast iron on Glass-ceramics cooktops? Or are cast irons better user for gas stoves?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on January 16, 2023, 08:33:11 AM
Can I use a cast iron on Glass-ceramics cooktops? Or are cast irons better user for gas stoves?

I don't think this is advisable, unfortunately. Gas or older style induction only.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Watson on January 16, 2023, 08:55:34 AM
Can I use a cast iron on Glass-ceramics cooktops? Or are cast irons better user for gas stoves?

I use mine on a glass top stove and it works fine. Just probably takes longer for the pan to heat up.

Like anything on a glass top stove just be careful not to slide it around to scrape up the glass.

do you guys recommend a steel scrubber? looks medieval to me

I have a natural firm bristled brush (this exact one https://www.redecker.de/en/home-and-yard/kitchen-brushes/pot-brush-322612) that works really good for scrubbing off stubborn food. Any small pieces that don't come off with that I use nature's scrubber. My fingernails. Works great.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on February 13, 2023, 07:24:40 AM
Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this. Not quite sure how to describe it. 1 minute skate video with 6 mins of terrible content.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on February 13, 2023, 07:45:22 AM
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I don't think this is advisable, unfortunately. Gas or older style induction only.

I got a cast iron skillet to use in my camper van setup. I was seasoning it in my house on a glass ceramic cooktop and it shattered out of nowhere. Sounded like a gunshot, scared the shit out of me, thankfully no one was hurt.

We have another cast iron pan that we use on the same cooktop all the time though so idk what the deal is.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Newphone on February 13, 2023, 07:49:47 AM
Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this. Not quite sure how to describe it. 1 minute skate video with 6 mins of terrible content.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY

Diner scene reminded me of the opening scene of “reservoir dogs”.  Even though Mikey didn’t have any lines in this film I though he captured his character “Benjamin” well.  Not sure how stacked Sundance lineup is this year, but best directorial debut is not out of the question, bravo.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on February 13, 2023, 07:53:31 AM
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Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this. Not quite sure how to describe it. 1 minute skate video with 6 mins of terrible content.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY
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Diner scene reminded me of the opening scene of “reservoir dogs”.  Even though Mikey didn’t have any lines in this film I though he captured his character “Benjamin” well.  Not sure how stacked Sundance lineup is this year, but best directorial debut is not out of the question, bravo.
;D
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on February 13, 2023, 07:54:10 AM
and the art. did I mention the art?

(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZqfWFcc/A0-C8-F191-19-EF-4455-BA51-47896-F360-D07.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 13, 2023, 07:56:05 AM
I made oklahoma style smash burger on the cast iron last night, honestly top 5 best burger I've had in my life. Wildly exceeded my expectations. Mostly followed the J. Kenji Lopez Alt method from youtube.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: DaleSr on February 13, 2023, 10:22:48 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/tCzmtJb/994-B298-A-3-A8-F-4-A88-9-B50-A757165752-CD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kcJHfSh)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Roisto on February 13, 2023, 10:42:48 AM
I have a carbon steel wok that I messed up seasoning because I wasn't used to my new stove. What's the best way to strip the seasoning so that I can start afresh?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on February 13, 2023, 11:28:33 AM
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Can I use a cast iron on Glass-ceramics cooktops? Or are cast irons better user for gas stoves?
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I don't think this is advisable, unfortunately. Gas or older style induction only.
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I got a cast iron skillet to use in my camper van setup. I was seasoning it in my house on a glass ceramic cooktop and it shattered out of nowhere. Sounded like a gunshot, scared the shit out of me, thankfully no one was hurt.

We have another cast iron pan that we use on the same cooktop all the time though so idk what the deal is.

You were seasoning it *on* the cooktop? Not inside the oven?

I've always heard it's fine to use on glass top, just don't drop it hard or drag it around on the surface

Ironically this thread made me dig out and re-season my Lodge pan so thanks for that, everyone. It's going pretty good though I tried to make eggs last night and they stuck to the pan, from what I've gathered I likely haven't cooked enough in it yet even though I seasoned properly. I also think I need to switch to an oil with a higher smoke point for a big possibly... I seasoned with Canola but have just been using Olive Oil to cook with since that's all I have and what I'd normally use, seen avocado oil is highly recommended
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: The Mexican Nancy Chin on February 13, 2023, 11:30:57 AM
Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY
Than why'd you post it?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on February 13, 2023, 11:51:42 AM
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Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY
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Than why'd you post it?
Fine question, but at least we got this thread rolling again.
Back to the awful production linked above… I see Mikey Alfred’s back on that underage weed smoking tip again: so edgy.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: manysnakes on February 13, 2023, 11:56:36 AM
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Can I use a cast iron on Glass-ceramics cooktops? Or are cast irons better user for gas stoves?
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I don't think this is advisable, unfortunately. Gas or older style induction only.
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I got a cast iron skillet to use in my camper van setup. I was seasoning it in my house on a glass ceramic cooktop and it shattered out of nowhere. Sounded like a gunshot, scared the shit out of me, thankfully no one was hurt.

We have another cast iron pan that we use on the same cooktop all the time though so idk what the deal is.
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You were seasoning it *on* the cooktop? Not inside the oven?

I've always heard it's fine to use on glass top, just don't drop it hard or drag it around on the surface

Ironically this thread made me dig out and re-season my Lodge pan so thanks for that, everyone. It's going pretty good though I tried to make eggs last night and they stuck to the pan, from what I've gathered I likely haven't cooked enough in it yet even though I seasoned properly. I also think I need to switch to an oil with a higher smoke point for a big possibly... I seasoned with Canola but have just been using Olive Oil to cook with since that's all I have and what I'd normally use, seen avocado oil is highly recommended

I've started cooking with avocado oil due to the high smoke point, and I have to say that a tangential benefit is that my pans almost always clean up easier. Got a nice, cooked-on layer of fatty polymers and the eggs just slide right off.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: whaaaaat on February 13, 2023, 12:03:16 PM
Best method I've found for cleaning a cast iron is to use steam - heat the cast iron up on the stove and then crank your hot water, put pan under water and brush with a long handled (! important so you don't burn yourself !) scrubber. Also, I use mine almost every day on a glass top stove with no issues.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 13, 2023, 12:03:31 PM
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Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY
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Than why'd you post it?

Because it's funny
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: The Mexican Nancy Chin on February 13, 2023, 12:07:54 PM
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Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY
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Than why'd you post it?
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Fine question, but at least we got this thread rolling again.
Back to the awful production linked above… I see Mikey Alfred’s back on that underage weed smoking tip again: so edgy.

any recommendations for my first cast iron?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on February 13, 2023, 12:19:38 PM
any recommendations for my first cast iron?
Thrift stores are awesome for these. Garage sales too.
I’ve got a small Wagner, a mid size “contemporary” Lodge & a large vintage Lodge.
They all work real nice.
I clean with soap & all, but the seasoning is so baked in, it doesn’t phase ‘em.
Daily cookers, each.
If you’re not on board already, you gotta get one.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: The Mexican Nancy Chin on February 13, 2023, 12:25:48 PM
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any recommendations for my first cast iron?
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Thrift stores are awesome for these. Garage sales too.
I’ve got a small Wagner, a mid size “contemporary” Lodge & a large vintage Lodge.
They all work real nice.
I clean with soap & all, but the seasoning is so baked in, it doesn’t phase ‘em.
Daily cookers, each.
If you’re not on board already, you gotta get one.
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on February 13, 2023, 12:28:39 PM
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Can I use a cast iron on Glass-ceramics cooktops? Or are cast irons better user for gas stoves?
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I don't think this is advisable, unfortunately. Gas or older style induction only.
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I got a cast iron skillet to use in my camper van setup. I was seasoning it in my house on a glass ceramic cooktop and it shattered out of nowhere. Sounded like a gunshot, scared the shit out of me, thankfully no one was hurt.

We have another cast iron pan that we use on the same cooktop all the time though so idk what the deal is.
[close]

You were seasoning it *on* the cooktop? Not inside the oven?

I've always heard it's fine to use on glass top, just don't drop it hard or drag it around on the surface

Ironically this thread made me dig out and re-season my Lodge pan so thanks for that, everyone. It's going pretty good though I tried to make eggs last night and they stuck to the pan, from what I've gathered I likely haven't cooked enough in it yet even though I seasoned properly. I also think I need to switch to an oil with a higher smoke point for a big possibly... I seasoned with Canola but have just been using Olive Oil to cook with since that's all I have and what I'd normally use, seen avocado oil is highly recommended

yes, maybe that was just due to my ignorance. I was told you could just cook bacon fat on a lower heat, wipe once it started smoking a bit, then repeat.

either way, i still have no idea how it fucking exploded.

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Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this. Not quite sure how to describe it. 1 minute skate video with 6 mins of terrible content.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY
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Diner scene reminded me of the opening scene of “reservoir dogs”.  Even though Mikey didn’t have any lines in this film I though he captured his character “Benjamin” well.  Not sure how stacked Sundance lineup is this year, but best directorial debut is not out of the question, bravo.
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;D

holy shit, was too busy talking cast iron and completely missed this disaster. so uncomfortable. what is this supposed to be? a series or something? Are people supposed to want another episode?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GAY on February 13, 2023, 12:29:12 PM
no soap?

i dont want my eggs tasting like taco meat

palmolive always worked fine on mine

This explains your gorgeous, soft, supple hands. I'm v envious.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: IpathCats on February 13, 2023, 12:35:59 PM
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no soap?

i dont want my eggs tasting like taco meat

palmolive always worked fine on mine
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This explains your gorgeous, soft, supple hands. I'm v envious.

Danny with the good hands
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Lou Strux on February 13, 2023, 02:10:52 PM
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no soap?

i dont want my eggs tasting like taco meat

palmolive always worked fine on mine
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This explains your gorgeous, soft, supple hands. I'm v envious.
Madge has been saying this since we were littles: us olds know the secret to soft skin.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: veritas on February 13, 2023, 03:20:12 PM
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Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY
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Than why'd you post it?
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Fine question, but at least we got this thread rolling again.
Back to the awful production linked above… I see Mikey Alfred’s back on that underage weed smoking tip again: so edgy.

New illegal civ videos will be exclusively Mikey filming himself contributing to the delinquency of minors with skating as B-roll
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 13, 2023, 04:39:20 PM
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Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY
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Than why'd you post it?
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Fine question, but at least we got this thread rolling again.
Back to the awful production linked above… I see Mikey Alfred’s back on that underage weed smoking tip again: so edgy.
[close]

New illegal civ videos will be exclusively Mikey filming himself contributing to the delinquency of minors with skating as B-roll

So like a Larry Clarke movie
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: GuessAgain? on February 13, 2023, 04:53:36 PM
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Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY
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Than why'd you post it?
[close]
Fine question, but at least we got this thread rolling again.
Back to the awful production linked above… I see Mikey Alfred’s back on that underage weed smoking tip again: so edgy.
[close]

New illegal civ videos will be exclusively Mikey filming himself contributing to the delinquency of minors with skating as B-roll
[close]

So like a Larry Clarke movie

Just seen this and wow… is this some insane nonception where he plays a fictional version of himself being an older predator filming kids in his apartment doing drugs and then getting busted by the cops? Maybe I got the wrong impression but if it is then lock this cunt up man. Fuck that. Get this freak off the streets and onto a register hahah
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Made In China on February 13, 2023, 05:04:12 PM
I'm not watching that new mikey video, but if I did, I'd imagine that it would make me feel similar to seeing my shitty housemate's stack of rusty cast iron pans. This bitch has one in every size, and even two of the same 9 incher. They're all sitting under one of our shelves because she left them rusty as hell in various places and the rest of us finally got sick of seeing them and moved them.

So yeah moral of the story is don't be like mikey or my housemate. Treat your cast irons well.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Newphone on February 13, 2023, 05:13:00 PM
Has anyone tried a grilled cheese at Starbucks though?
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Sizzle on February 13, 2023, 05:54:20 PM
Has anyone tried a grilled cheese at Starbucks though?
Somebody tweeted all Starbucks food tastes like it’s 3D printed
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: KGB on February 13, 2023, 06:00:02 PM
Has anyone tried a grilled cheese at Starbucks though?

Nah man, but they got the best brownies. They put them in the microwave for you. Wait are you 21? You can’t go.
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on February 13, 2023, 07:25:06 PM
Has anyone tried a grilled cheese at Starbucks though?
yeah it’s pretty okay. Greasy, but that’s good when you’re hungover. If they had some tomato soup to go along with it, it’d be a 10/10
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Owen on February 15, 2023, 02:02:12 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uWoU6Or.jpeg)

Bit of action from a recent camping trip. No pics of inside the pot but it was a tasty chorizo stew
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: matt_2993 on February 15, 2023, 02:04:10 PM
Damn that had to a great fucking time right there. Nicely done and choice of chorizo
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: Owen on February 16, 2023, 12:21:23 AM
Damn that had to a great fucking time right there. Nicely done and choice of chorizo

First time I've made it camping but it's a staple at home.

1x cured chorizo (in whole and then cut up at the end), potatoes, carrot, brown onion, canned chickpeas or butter beans, paprika, chilli flakes, tomato paste, chicken stock. Stir through some spinach at the end. Delicious
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: sometimeperhaps on February 16, 2023, 08:38:21 AM
Doin it right at the campsite.
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: The Mexican Nancy Chin on February 16, 2023, 09:43:25 AM
Has anyone tried a grilled cheese at Starbucks though?
Had one a few months ago. A little rainbow formed on top of it through the window :)(https://i.ibb.co/kmRNhLx/Screen-Shot-2023-02-16-at-11-39-37-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kmRNhLx)
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: twic3 on February 16, 2023, 10:18:45 AM
I prefer the ham and swiss croissant from starbucks
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: versacekid420 on February 16, 2023, 11:03:49 AM
I prefer the ham and swiss croissant from starbucks
double smoked bacon egg and cheese is insane
Title: Re: Tyshawn shots fired at Mikey Alfred and Illegal Civ
Post by: work_lurker on February 16, 2023, 02:23:10 PM
Do yourself a favor and don’t watch this. Not quite sure how to describe it. 1 minute skate video with 6 mins of terrible content.
https://youtu.be/1xA7a-UEsGY

Didn't realize Sunny Suljic had Benjamin Buttons disease