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Title: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: NNukBomba on March 19, 2018, 02:32:12 PM
Hey, so my friends and I want to begin to skate and we want to buy decent skateboards. We're looking for a good quality to price ratio. I've been thinking about buying the alien workshop veritas complete skateboard (7,75"). Is it any good? Or should I build a skateboard out of some parts and if, which brands? (Our budget is around 90$)
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: Dad you're embarrassing me on March 19, 2018, 02:36:27 PM
Are you also beggining to spell?
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: SodaJerk on March 19, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
Buy a complete. If you are older than 12 you might want a wider one.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: calvinsdream on March 19, 2018, 02:54:30 PM
I've heard this website is where you want to ask for recommendations:

http://www.skateboard-city.com/messageboard/ (http://www.skateboard-city.com/messageboard/)
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: Joclo on March 19, 2018, 03:00:15 PM
There are so many brands to choose from these days. If you want to be a rail-wounded skater you could look into something like this:

https://youtu.be/VMRE0x4dWYA

I can't vouch for it but I wish I had something like this 20 years ago when I was skating LOVE. Will you be skating street or mega ramp?
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 19, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
Go to a shop

$30 shop deck (8.25 - 8.5) with a 14.25 or 14.5 wheelbase
$40 indy's (144 - 149) You might as well start him out on indy's.
$35 Bones STF 54mm V5
$20 Indpendent Black Bearings (Or save $ and get mini logo for $10 - With the long term goal to get swiss 6)
$3 shop hardward

$128 plus tax. The shop is hyped, and so is your friend.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 19, 2018, 03:18:26 PM
If you are shopping online, here's one for $96
Skate warehouse deck
Independent trucks
Bones STF
Independent Black Bearings
Jessup
Bones hardware
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: straight on March 19, 2018, 03:42:35 PM
post a fit
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: roomservice on March 19, 2018, 03:52:21 PM
Don't listen to any of these guys. Demand Plan B quality.

I would recommend
Shecks plan B deck 7.375x33
Phantom 8.0 inch trucks
Cortina Nakel Smith signature bearings
Independent wheels (ride the best, fuck the rest)
2" hardware, I only trust Lowe's, fuck Home Depot
Plan B die cut griptape (I usually just DM Chris Cole for some when I need it)

You'll be pro in no time bud, don't forget to like and subscribe!
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 19, 2018, 04:03:10 PM
Don't listen to any of these guys. Demand Plan B quality.

I would recommend
Shecks plan B deck 7.375x33
Phantom 8.0 inch trucks
Cortina Nakel Smith signature bearings
Independent wheels (ride the best, fuck the rest)
2" hardware, I only trust Lowe's, fuck Home Depot
Plan B die cut griptape (I usually just DM Chris Cole for some when I need it)

You'll be pro in no time bud, don't forget to like and subscribe!
Those phantom trucks... the shop that I hung out at in 2001 had a DNA account, and everyone there rode them. It was one of my best summer of skating haha. The Phantom trucks were blue, with the round logo, were probably 7.75 and were not the phantom 2's.
I found a set on a complete at the thrift store, contemplated buying them for nostalgia, but in the end left the past in the past.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: fulloffact on March 19, 2018, 04:07:48 PM
Any Deluxe brand (Anti-Hero, Krooked, Real) over 8"
Thunder Trucks
Bronson or Reds bearings
Spitfire formula 4 conical wheels
any hardware will do
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: Joust Ostrich on March 19, 2018, 04:23:09 PM
Slap used to have a questionnaire just for occasions such as this.  If you want a proper recommendation, we need data. 

Please provide: age, sex, weight, height, shoe size, favorite color, and a picture of your sexiest female relative.  (male will work too, we're progressive like that)

Please reply in full, with either three "praise Gall"s, or three "fuck Berra"s, and we'll get you set up properly. 
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: dirtyweemidden on March 19, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
all these guys are being dicks.. you need a Revive board, dude.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: JB on March 19, 2018, 04:31:24 PM
what did everyone's first board cost? mine was $150 in 2001.
alien deck / grind kings with the hollow baseplate / rictas / reflex bearings.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: curbdrop on March 19, 2018, 07:55:01 PM
what did everyone's first board cost? mine was $150 in 2001.
alien deck / grind kings with the hollow baseplate / rictas / reflex bearings.

$175

Element Donny Barley Deck
Indys
Spitfire 54s
Reds Bearings
Shorty's Hardware

In retrospect I probably should have started on one of the cheaper/smaller Powell or DNA christmas completes like the shop guy told my parents, cause the thing was a damn boat for me but it's what I wanted.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: expired on March 19, 2018, 08:12:28 PM
Blind reaper complete was my first.
Go with a complete for your first board or a 9.0 grosso board
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on March 19, 2018, 08:21:30 PM
all these guys are being dicks.. you need a Revive board, dude.

You're the dick dude, it's called Remive.

If you're not feeling Remive, definetly go with a Mutilation Skateboards Vinne Bahn Pro Model. Dudes the best, plus he's trying to pay for braces.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: Mongoloid on March 19, 2018, 08:23:48 PM
what did everyone's first board cost? mine was $150 in 2001.
alien deck / grind kings with the hollow baseplate / rictas / reflex bearings.

Think team deck with brown base/raw destructos, pig bearings, and planet earth wheels (I think 54’s) Had to hit the local hardware shop for bolts. Age 14 in ‘99.

Don’t at all remember the cost.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: Paco Supreme on March 19, 2018, 08:29:18 PM
i wish i could remember the cost of my first, i think it was $250 ish

element board, black bullet trucks, black panthers and element wheels
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on March 19, 2018, 08:33:48 PM
Zero team deck, destructo trucks, reds, and the wheels elude me. Black with a thin yellow ring around 2004... Maybe rictas? 139$
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on March 19, 2018, 09:01:32 PM
Powell Mike McGill with gullwing magnesium trucks, can't remember the wheels but I want to say 60mm slimeballs...

Get a Real deck, spitfire wheels, independent trucks and some good old generic abec 3 bearings.

Have fun!
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on March 19, 2018, 09:18:19 PM
Go to a shop

$30 shop deck (8.25 - 8.5) with a 14.25 or 14.5 wheelbase
$40 indy's (144 - 149) You might as well start him out on indy's.
$35 Bones STF 54mm V5
$20 Indpendent Black Bearings (Or save $ and get mini logo for $10 - With the long term goal to get swiss 6)
$3 shop hardward

$128 plus tax. The shop is hyped, and so is your friend.

Take this to heart. Take all other suggestions with a grain of salt. Or a pinch.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on March 19, 2018, 10:17:59 PM
what did everyone's first board cost? mine was $150 in 2001.
alien deck / grind kings with the hollow baseplate / rictas / reflex bearings.

Around 90-ish
Element Tony Tave
Huck Jam trucks
Blank Black wheels
random yellow bearings
purple griptape
shop hardware
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on March 19, 2018, 10:25:17 PM
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what did everyone's first board cost? mine was $150 in 2001.
alien deck / grind kings with the hollow baseplate / rictas / reflex bearings.
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Around 90-ish what da fuck?
Element Tony Tave
Huck Jam trucks
Blank Black wheels
random yellow bearings
purple griptape
shop hardware
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on March 20, 2018, 12:21:27 AM
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what did everyone's first board cost? mine was $150 in 2001.
alien deck / grind kings with the hollow baseplate / rictas / reflex bearings.
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Around 90-ish what da fuck?
Element Tony Tave
Huck Jam trucks
Blank Black wheels
random yellow bearings
purple griptape
shop hardware
[close]

Yeah, pretty sure I got finessed and the trucks were from a walmart complete and the wheels sucked and the bearings sucked
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: lurkshit on March 20, 2018, 10:03:41 AM
ride the companys your mom doesn't like
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: roba on March 20, 2018, 10:31:41 AM
what did everyone's first board cost? mine was $150 in 2001.
alien deck / grind kings with the hollow baseplate / rictas / reflex bearings.

i had a blind reaper complete at first and then i bought this setup (i was 12):
plan b p-rod deck
venture rasta trucks
bones party pack 100s wheels
kept the bearings and the hardware

it was ~$150
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: tortfeasor on March 20, 2018, 10:41:33 AM
all these people recommending trucks without knowing what kind of wheels he is getting?

they started color coding wheels and trucks so you know which ones are compatible.  Pick you wheels first and make sure you get trucks that are the same color so they fit properly.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: ungzilla on March 20, 2018, 10:48:31 AM
he's a lawyer so you know he can be trusted to give you accurate lawyerly advice in these complex legal matters
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: tortfeasor on March 20, 2018, 10:54:35 AM
i think its time i come clean... im actually a euro tm impersonating bawtard trying to get dontfearthereefer unbanned.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: backinaction on March 20, 2018, 10:56:26 AM
If you aren't going with a local shop, grab a Tactics complete.  $69 shipped. Generator wood, Mini Logo trucks (that I prefer over the Indy Hollows and Thunder Hollow Lights that I have), Mini Logo bearings are fine, and the wheels are as good as anything except the F4s or SPF/STF.

https://www.tactics.com/tactics/completes

If you order the 8.25, call and ask if they can build it with the 8.38" trucks and a 1/8" riser.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: roomservice on March 20, 2018, 11:05:02 AM
all these people recommending trucks without knowing what kind of wheels he is getting?

they started color coding wheels and trucks so you know which ones are compatible.  Pick you wheels first and make sure you get trucks that are the same color so they fit properly.

They don't have to be the same color, that's just going to confuse him. Most big brands (Deluxe, Powell) have agreed on the COSNO (complementary OK, supplementary NOT OK) system for matching wheels and trucks. Remember though that violet by the consensus definition is not equal to purple. Anyway just ask the skateshop for a color wheel diagram so you can make an educated choice. Good shops will have at least one hanging around, it's super common.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: badfomyhealth on March 20, 2018, 11:21:13 AM
you should go to your local shop and ask them
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: tortfeasor on March 20, 2018, 12:20:55 PM
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all these people recommending trucks without knowing what kind of wheels he is getting?

they started color coding wheels and trucks so you know which ones are compatible.  Pick you wheels first and make sure you get trucks that are the same color so they fit properly.
[close]

They don't have to be the same color, that's just going to confuse him. Most big brands (Deluxe, Powell) have agreed on the COSNO (complementary OK, supplementary NOT OK) system for matching wheels and trucks. Remember though that violet by the consensus definition is not equal to purple. Anyway just ask the skateshop for a color wheel diagram so you can make an educated choice. Good shops will have at least one hanging around, it's super common.

oh good call does anyone have a link to the wheel wheel? 
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: homegrown83 on March 20, 2018, 12:35:19 PM
Like someone said earlier, you should really go to a skateshop and ask a ton of questions. Go to a real skateshop and not zumiez or a large mall chain skate shop; those will probably try to rip you off and sell you everything under the sun (even though core skateshops do the same thing too sometimes). If you're looking to go cheap, which $90 is really cheap for getting an entire complete, I'd probably suggest buying a shop complete set up if they have one. I doubt you will be able to stay within your $90 budget if you just customize your board yourself but you never know. If you do go custom, i'd suggest buying the shop brand board (they're usually the cheapest), buy some spitfire wheels (usually the cheapest and they get the job done), buy some bones red bearings (the shop will try to sell you swiss but they're $40), i'd suggest buying independent trucks if you're going to buy a wider board (8.0 and up) or buy some ventures if you're staying at 8 or belong in width. Get jessup griptape or mob (don't know anything about grizzly's quality, and just get any kind of hardware but careful to see if you're getting bolts with that require a screwdriver or an allen wrench.

All in all, finding out what you like in skateboarding will take time. It's all about trial and error learning what works and what doesn't work for you. However, there are a few tips that can be helpful.

-If you think you're going to like doing a lot of flip tricks, get a more narrow board (7.5-8") with narrow trucks and smaller wheels.
-If you think you're going to skate transition (aka quarterpipes, bowls, etc.) get a wider board with wider trucks and larger wheels (8-8.5")

Good luck!
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Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: botefdunn on March 20, 2018, 12:58:02 PM
first thing, travel back in time to emb circa '93. Show up around 2-3pm, locals will be trickling in by then. Locate Scott Johnson, he's the tall dude with the armload of his own pro model, he just turned pro for this company called Mad Circle. Next, cruise over to the group of younger kids on the steps who are giggling about some mischief, ask for Karl, he's got those Venture 5.0s for you. You're about halfway there, grab a snapple and sit on the steps for a minute, observing Kelch's antics. In fact, just stay right there, by now everybody knows you're putting a board together, and they've seen exactly how much is in your wallet when you pulled it out to pay for the other stuff. Somebody will be along to sell you the rest shortly. If it's getting dark out, I'd recommend waiting in the Carl's jr. for your mom to come pick you up, it gets a little chilly this time of year.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: SodaJerk on March 20, 2018, 01:23:30 PM
first thing, travel back in time to emb circa '93. Show up around 2-3pm, locals will be trickling in by then. Locate Scott Johnson, he's the tall dude with the armload of his own pro model, he just turned pro for this company called Mad Circle. Next, cruise over to the group of younger kids on the steps who are giggling about some mischief, ask for Karl, he's got those Venture 5.0s for you. You're about halfway there, grab a snapple and sit on the steps for a minute, observing Kelch's antics. In fact, just stay right there, by now everybody knows you're putting a board together, and they've seen exactly how much is in your wallet when you pulled it out to pay for the other stuff. Somebody will be along to sell you the rest shortly. If it's getting dark out, I'd recommend waiting in the Carl's jr. for your mom to come pick you up, it gets a little chilly this time of year.
If a guy called Wheatberry tries to sell you wheels make sure none of them are actually potatoes.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: feedmeseymour on March 20, 2018, 01:32:19 PM
i give credit to anyone whos first step to start skating is to go on slap and post about it before even getting a board.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: Allen. on March 20, 2018, 01:38:16 PM
i give credit to anyone whos first step to start skating is to go on slap and post about it before even getting a board.

Legend has it that's how Bobby Puleo started
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: NNukBomba on March 21, 2018, 07:34:56 AM
Thanks guys, I got a Toy Machine complete.
Title: Re: Beggining to skate, which brand to choose?
Post by: concerned_parent on March 21, 2018, 08:16:56 AM
Thanks guys, I got a Toy Machine complete.

that's a very advanced board. be careful. become familiar with "johnny layton."