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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4020 on: August 10, 2021, 06:39:05 AM »
Am I correct in my assumption that Bones 99a STF is the wheel formerly known as Bones 99s Easy Streets, or is there somehow a difference aside from the clever name?

Same in theory, but they make a very white and more natural color version. People say there are feel differences between the two.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4021 on: August 10, 2021, 06:46:40 AM »
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Am I correct in my assumption that Bones 99a STF is the wheel formerly known as Bones 99s Easy Streets, or is there somehow a difference aside from the clever name?
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Same in theory, but they make a very white and more natural color version. People say there are feel differences between the two.

ok thanks, didn't know that, like the wheel dye makes it more slippy or something?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4022 on: August 10, 2021, 06:50:03 AM »
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Am I correct in my assumption that Bones 99a STF is the wheel formerly known as Bones 99s Easy Streets, or is there somehow a difference aside from the clever name?
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Same in theory, but they make a very white and more natural color version. People say there are feel differences between the two.
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ok thanks, didn't know that, like the wheel dye makes it more slippy or something?

Not sure if it’s the dye but the easy streets I got when they first came out were white, felt a little softer and slid waaay better than the natural color ones that came out later. Felt kind of similar to the 97a F4’s

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4023 on: August 10, 2021, 02:47:24 PM »
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Am I correct in my assumption that Bones 99a STF is the wheel formerly known as Bones 99s Easy Streets, or is there somehow a difference aside from the clever name?
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Same in theory, but they make a very white and more natural color version. People say there are feel differences between the two.
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ok thanks, didn't know that, like the wheel dye makes it more slippy or something?
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Not sure if it’s the dye but the easy streets I got when they first came out were white, felt a little softer and slid waaay better than the natural color ones that came out later. Felt kind of similar to the 97a F4’s

First gen 'white' 99a eazy streets > second gen 99a 'dirty birds (now just plane old brown stfs)

Totally different feeling wheels
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4025 on: August 10, 2021, 07:50:31 PM »
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Am I correct in my assumption that Bones 99a STF is the wheel formerly known as Bones 99s Easy Streets, or is there somehow a difference aside from the clever name?
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Same in theory, but they make a very white and more natural color version. People say there are feel differences between the two.
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ok thanks, didn't know that, like the wheel dye makes it more slippy or something?
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Not sure if it’s the dye but the easy streets I got when they first came out were white, felt a little softer and slid waaay better than the natural color ones that came out later. Felt kind of similar to the 97a F4’s
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First gen 'white' 99a eazy streets > second gen 99a 'dirty birds (not just plane old brown stfs)

Totally different feeling wheels

For sure, I was surprised at how grippy the 2nd gen ones were

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4026 on: August 11, 2021, 06:31:06 AM »
Anyone skates the F4 OG 99a classics in smaller version? I just ordered them in 52mm and feel that we will be good friends. Sold my full conicals 97a 56mm as they are too heavy for me.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4027 on: August 11, 2021, 06:38:08 AM »
Anyone skates the F4 OG 99a classics in smaller version? I just ordered them in 52mm and feel that we will be good friends. Sold my full conicals 97a 56mm as they are too heavy for me.
I have a pair and I love them. You will definitely notice how much easier it is to flip your board.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4028 on: August 11, 2021, 06:57:34 AM »
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Anyone skates the F4 OG 99a classics in smaller version? I just ordered them in 52mm and feel that we will be good friends. Sold my full conicals 97a 56mm as they are too heavy for me.
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I have a pair and I love them. You will definitely notice how much easier it is to flip your board.
Thanks! That's what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately the 97a range is so limited, hope they will do some more versions.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4029 on: August 11, 2021, 07:01:44 AM »
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Anyone skates the F4 OG 99a classics in smaller version? I just ordered them in 52mm and feel that we will be good friends. Sold my full conicals 97a 56mm as they are too heavy for me.
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I have a pair and I love them. You will definitely notice how much easier it is to flip your board.
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Thanks! That's what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately the 97a range is so limited, hope they will do some more versions.
Yeah man you're going to like them. I've yet to try the 97 a but I also skate park and smooth concrete for the most part so I really don't need a softer wheel than 99a. Bit maybe I will try a pair soon.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4030 on: August 11, 2021, 10:38:09 AM »
Couldn't find it so not sure if it was posted (and I'm lazy):



These seem to be an iteration on the G Slides. The cores were the big tip off to me. I'm down to try these but the softer wheel market is super different today then it was even a couple of years ago. So many choices out there right now.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4031 on: August 11, 2021, 12:08:41 PM »
Wheel spacer question. As a bike mechanic I understand why performance of the bearings should be way more reliable with proper spacers. But they seem to make my wheels sound insane. Way more noise as they spin. What's the deal

I’ve never seen a wheel with tolerances proper to have any benefit from the use of spacers. Ricta does this right and uses plastic and aluminum cores, which guarantee a uniform surface, but even when using Bones wheels and Bones bearings with Bones spacers, they end up causing the bearing to jam. I’ve twice now had spacers get ripped up inside of the wheel due to tolerance issues.

Frankly I just don’t think this is worth it. It’s a trick skateboard, not a downhill longboard. Any benefit would be marginal, and since they seem to always make things worse, I don’t think it’s worth the bother.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4032 on: August 11, 2021, 12:26:34 PM »


Anyone ever try these? No plastic core and soft but not too soft durometer.

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« Reply #4033 on: August 18, 2021, 09:08:05 PM »
After many years of thinking, skating, and more thinking, I have come to the conclusion that Radial shape wheels are the ultimate shape.

Also SML OG formula is on par with F4 and no one is talking about it.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4034 on: August 18, 2021, 09:11:33 PM »
Sup guys!
Here's my two cents on some 56mm V-Shape NFG/Loophole wheels I've been riding the last couple weeks
(For those last, I've mostly skated streets and hills)

They are very sticky and grippy but feel really good, and roll smooth(super fast) over everything.

The slide is really inconsistent, like I can't tell if I'm going to be propelled forward or fell straight on my back anytime.

I tried back my F4 conical full 58mm 99a and apart the slide thing in which they were more predictable, they felt really sluggish, slow and not fun compare to these. I surprisingly prefer my NFG's

They still feel really grippy even after I wore them down a couple mms, so it makes me wondering if I've got a bad set... Because when they decide to slide they feel the best!



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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4035 on: August 18, 2021, 10:09:10 PM »
After many years of thinking, skating, and more thinking, I have come to the conclusion that Radial shape wheels are the ultimate shape.

Also SML OG formula is on par with F4 and no one is talking about it.

Radial Slims are love
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But they are increasingly rare these days, could be due to DLX tapering off production for the season. Haven't seen 99a Radial Slims in ages.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4036 on: August 18, 2021, 10:51:07 PM »
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After many years of thinking, skating, and more thinking, I have come to the conclusion that Radial shape wheels are the ultimate shape.

Also SML OG formula is on par with F4 and no one is talking about it.
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Radial Slims are love
Radial Slims are life

But they are increasingly rare these days, could be due to DLX tapering off production for the season. Haven't seen 99a Radial Slims in ages.

I bought radial slims 52mm 101a in may, loved em. But after 3 months they were down to 46mm so I replaced them with tablets. Radial slims felt better, tablets feel somewhat clunky and tablets are uglier too.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4037 on: August 19, 2021, 12:15:32 AM »
Sup guys!
Here's my two cents on some 56mm V-Shape NFG/Loophole wheels I've been riding the last couple weeks
(For those last, I've mostly skated streets and hills)

They are very sticky and grippy but feel really good, and roll smooth(super fast) over everything.

The slide is really inconsistent, like I can't tell if I'm going to be propelled forward or fell straight on my back anytime.

I tried back my F4 conical full 58mm 99a and apart the slide thing in which they were more predictable, they felt really sluggish, slow and not fun compare to these. I surprisingly prefer my NFG's

They still feel really grippy even after I wore them down a couple mms, so it makes me wondering if I've got a bad set... Because when they decide to slide they feel the best!



I was gonna say break them in a few mm before making your final decision, but it sounds like you already have. After trying out my 56s, a guy at my local bought some and then proceeded to tell me they were “broken”. I had a similar experience with my 52 teardrops but now that they’ve worn down they are pretty damn buttery (my 56s still reign supreme though and I unlocked 540 power slides with them). What I will say is warm them up, they slide a lot better when fully warmed up and don’t give up on them quite yet; compared to F4 yes, they are bound to be a bit more inconsistent. I put in the work on my 52s and I’m glad I did.
Evidently the guy who told me his were broken let me ride his board and after giving them a good warmup, I was to rip into 360 power slides no problem.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4038 on: August 19, 2021, 04:39:49 PM »

Found this while surfing around and thought it would be good to have it posted here
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4039 on: August 20, 2021, 06:32:30 AM »
Holy fuck going from Powell Rat Bones 90A 60mm to Orbs 99A 56mm was an absolute shock to the system. I can feel every bump in the uneven pavement now...I'm sure anyone else here could've predicted that but I'm just getting back into skating again and didn't realize how huge of a difference this was.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4040 on: August 20, 2021, 08:04:17 AM »


59mm/85a Bones Rough Riders
58mm/87a OJ Key Frames
54mm/92a sml Succulent Dreams
52mm/99a Spitfire Radial F4
48.5mm/99a Boardy Cake Bench Warmers

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« Reply #4041 on: August 20, 2021, 11:00:35 PM »
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Right between 99/101 sounds ideal. I been on conicals for a while but was considering going for the rounded shape for a change
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i can’t say enough good things about them! If you want classic shape, go for the teardrops
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How do the teardrops slide compared to the v shape? (If you have tried both).
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funny thing, my v-cuts slide considerably better than the teardrops which kinda doesn’t make sense, but because they are hand poured you can get variance from wheel to wheel!
A guy at my local bought 54mm v-cuts after trying my 56s and then come up to me and was like, “they’re broken, they don’t slide like yours!” I rode around on his board for a minute to warm them up and while they screeched at little bit at first, I was sill doing some Leo Valls inspired combos within a few minutes on them.
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Interesting! Yeah, the variance in urethane seems to be a factor. I’ve had two sets of square shapes and three sets of v shapes and noticed that one set of the squares slid exceptionally well whereas none of the v shapes slid well at all, except for the 95a ones. I thought maybe the smaller contact patch and rounded edges of the teardrop shape might make a difference but it sounds like it doesn’t haha

I bought a set from theories along with some other shit, and they were great…except one wheel, i guess it was poured incorrectly had bubbles and the bearing wouldn’t fit all the way back into the wheel. I even used a proper bearing press and everything
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4042 on: August 21, 2021, 04:27:17 AM »
Skating through gravel, sand, gritty asphalt, dirt, and other rough surfaces require a reliable set of wheels. I always choose wheels which relatively softer or within the 78a-88a durometer range as they are known to be better at resisting impact. Softer wheels also provide you better grip and can dramatically reduce vibration from the board. They’re extra bouncy for a more energized ride too!

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« Reply #4043 on: August 21, 2021, 08:35:05 AM »
Skating through gravel, sand, gritty asphalt, dirt, and other rough surfaces require a reliable set of wheels. I always choose wheels which relatively softer or within the 78a-88a durometer range as they are known to be better at resisting impact. Softer wheels also provide you better grip and can dramatically reduce vibration from the board. They’re extra bouncy for a more energized ride too!

Aren't softer wheels less bouncy than harder wheels?

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« Reply #4044 on: August 21, 2021, 09:12:21 AM »
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Skating through gravel, sand, gritty asphalt, dirt, and other rough surfaces require a reliable set of wheels. I always choose wheels which relatively softer or within the 78a-88a durometer range as they are known to be better at resisting impact. Softer wheels also provide you better grip and can dramatically reduce vibration from the board. They’re extra bouncy for a more energized ride too!
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Aren't softer wheels less bouncy than harder wheels?

Hard wheels have greater rebound but that does not translate to bounce off the ground. Soft wheels compress when they make contact with the ground like a rubber ball. That is the bounce people mention and why soft wheels for flat ground and slide tricks are not ideal.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4045 on: August 22, 2021, 02:44:16 PM »
Looking to try slim wheels… seems most people on slap are skating bones or spitfires, anyone able to recommend other slims? Ricta speed rings for example? Mini logo c-cuts?

Also someone mentioned a page or two back that a bunch of brands are made by the same supplier. Anyone knowledgeable enough to do a mini equivalent of the deck wood shop thread but for wheels?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4046 on: August 22, 2021, 06:08:01 PM »
Looking to try slim wheels… seems most people on slap are skating bones or spitfires, anyone able to recommend other slims? Ricta speed rings for example? Mini logo c-cuts?

Also someone mentioned a page or two back that a bunch of brands are made by the same supplier. Anyone knowledgeable enough to do a mini equivalent of the deck wood shop thread but for wheels?
Pretty sure Autobahn still makes a very slim wheel. Had a pair a long time ago and loved em. Honestly tho, spitfire classics have a pretty slim riding surface and I just stick with those. Can’t stand the look of a wide wheel.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4047 on: August 22, 2021, 06:46:38 PM »
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Looking to try slim wheels… seems most people on slap are skating bones or spitfires, anyone able to recommend other slims? Ricta speed rings for example? Mini logo c-cuts?

Also someone mentioned a page or two back that a bunch of brands are made by the same supplier. Anyone knowledgeable enough to do a mini equivalent of the deck wood shop thread but for wheels?
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Pretty sure Autobahn still makes a very slim wheel. Had a pair a long time ago and loved em. Honestly tho, spitfire classics have a pretty slim riding surface and I just stick with those. Can’t stand the look of a wide wheel.

I also ride slim wheels for purely visual reasons. With that I don’t the the profile of a spitfire slim.

Bones v4s or v2s if want a flat edge. Autobahn are pretty good. Crupie is super slim but probably the worst of the bunch durability wise.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4048 on: August 22, 2021, 06:47:33 PM »
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Looking to try slim wheels… seems most people on slap are skating bones or spitfires, anyone able to recommend other slims? Ricta speed rings for example? Mini logo c-cuts?

Also someone mentioned a page or two back that a bunch of brands are made by the same supplier. Anyone knowledgeable enough to do a mini equivalent of the deck wood shop thread but for wheels?
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Pretty sure Autobahn still makes a very slim wheel. Had a pair a long time ago and loved em. Honestly tho, spitfire classics have a pretty slim riding surface and I just stick with those. Can’t stand the look of a wide wheel.

Autobahn Street Slims are the right answer.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4049 on: August 22, 2021, 07:44:15 PM »
Looking to try slim wheels… seems most people on slap are skating bones or spitfires, anyone able to recommend other slims? Ricta speed rings for example? Mini logo c-cuts?

Also someone mentioned a page or two back that a bunch of brands are made by the same supplier. Anyone knowledgeable enough to do a mini equivalent of the deck wood shop thread but for wheels?

Ricta Nyjah super slims (if you can find them); 101a only, it's a skinny conical, my favorite wheel right now. 52mm (only) width: 27.75mm/Contact Patch: 15.25mm


Ricta Speed Rings Slim, more rounded than the above but nothing crazy. It's like a slim classic, but actually slim/real close to a V1. 99a (only) 52mm width 30.3mm/18.3mm contact patch - 51mm (which I'm riding) Width 29.75mm/contact patch 18mm


Asta same dims as the above but a bit more rounded like a radial slim, but actually slim/real close to a V1.


I've both the speed rings and the nyjahs and they're great; slap gonna hate because 'ricta' (and they don't come in potato brown) but they are hard as fuck and have unique slim shapes (what I like but they have wide shapes too) that you can't get with bones or spit or OJ; Autobahn are much too grippy and the only slim shape they have anymore is so close to a V3 you'd be better off with the bones.
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