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Title: Would you rat?
Post by: SneakySecrets on February 17, 2021, 07:10:06 PM
You are arrested along with at least one other person for some serious 25 to life, no parole type shit.  The police interrogate you separately and offer you a deal if you to spill the beans on anyone involved.

Are you snitching?
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Huell Howser on February 17, 2021, 07:12:39 PM
if it's Clint Walker I'm snitchin
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: EdLawndale on February 17, 2021, 07:20:54 PM
Probably not.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: ChronicBluntSlider on February 17, 2021, 07:25:46 PM
What a dilemma!
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Fhk on February 17, 2021, 07:32:32 PM
We would never snitch on you @sexysecrets
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on February 17, 2021, 07:39:37 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: OldCandy on February 17, 2021, 08:12:56 PM
people who are really anal on the "no i would never snitch" are the same types that crack in the principals office
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 17, 2021, 08:34:56 PM
Never talk to cops
Never ever talk to cops

I want a lawyer. I ain’t saying shit until I have my lawyer.

Sorry them mutherfuckers got you hemmed up.

I just left a half a hundred in your commissary.

One Love
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: matty_c on February 17, 2021, 08:51:11 PM
Yeah maybe man, I don’t know
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: OldCandy on February 17, 2021, 08:58:26 PM
Never talk to cops
Never ever talk to cops

I want a lawyer. I ain’t saying shit until I have my lawyer.

Sorry them mutherfuckers got you hemmed up.

I just left a half a hundred in your commissary.

One Love

there was a 1hr youtube video about this. basically the police legally cannot help you and are out to get you - it is mostly always in your best intreast to do what the qouted poster said
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: matty_c on February 17, 2021, 09:19:51 PM
Speaking generally if you’re getting questioned it’s what they call a fishing expedition on tv shows, if they got you dead to rights you’re copping charges straight up

25 to life is a long time
That omertà stuff is bullshit, lotta people particularly ones with families take the deal. I can’t judge
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: iKobrakai on February 17, 2021, 10:19:35 PM
Most would crack and point fingers in a second.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: TheLurper on February 17, 2021, 10:28:36 PM
The police only know what you tell them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F78czY7lL5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6o8INLFlfo
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: DaleSr on February 17, 2021, 10:40:49 PM
If I'm dead to rights, maybe I'll talk to my lawyer and see if they want to plea out.

If there's any doubt at all, fuck that I'm going to court
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: igrindtwinkies on February 17, 2021, 10:45:18 PM
I wouldn't do anything in the first place that would ever cause me to get into a situation like this in the first place.  But if my options are spending 25+ years in prison vs snitching, I'm going to snitch.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: EdLawndale on February 17, 2021, 11:14:38 PM
The Prisoner's Dilemma says you shouldn't snitch:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

"Two members of a criminal gang are arrested and imprisoned. Each prisoner is in solitary confinement with no means of communicating with the other. The prosecutors lack sufficient evidence to convict the pair on the principal charge, but they have enough to convict both on a lesser charge. Simultaneously, the prosecutors offer each prisoner a bargain. Each prisoner is given the opportunity either to betray the other by testifying that the other committed the crime, or to cooperate with the other by remaining silent. The possible outcomes are:

If A and B each betray the other, each of them serves two years in prison
If A betrays B but B remains silent, A will be set free and B will serve three years in prison
If A remains silent but B betrays A, A will serve three years in prison and B will be set free
If A and B both remain silent, both of them will serve only one year in prison (on the lesser charge)."
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: DannyDee on February 18, 2021, 12:31:14 AM
I don't plan on doing anything stupid enough that will get me 25 to life. So, I don't plan on ever being in a position where I have to rat. So, no. Granted to get 25 to life where I live you would have to do some really heinous shit.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Croquet temper on February 18, 2021, 01:14:02 AM
You’d be spending life in prison like “damn... I could’ve just snitched.”
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: PC500 on February 18, 2021, 02:23:17 AM
I don't plan on doing anything stupid enough that will get me 25 to life. So, I don't plan on ever being in a position where I have to rat. So, no. Granted to get 25 to life where I live you would have to do some really heinous shit.

Especially heinous? Must be a sexually based offence.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: FUBAR on February 18, 2021, 02:48:01 AM
To quote homie from LIAR LIAR: “QUIT BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!”
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: arrbee on February 18, 2021, 03:55:22 AM
Lawyer up, cops can't cut deals only the DA can. And don't ever believe that "we'll put in a good word for you with the prosecutor" shit. I also only associate with others that are smart enough to know these things.

I hail from the streets where "Stop Snitchin" videos were born.

In high school I was once suspended for not snitching. I wasn't even one of the accused, I was a witness. I ain't see shit and I ain't got nothing to say.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: JANUS on February 18, 2021, 05:25:04 AM
Hmmm... this might be one of the few situations where my long, well-documented history of mental illness comes in handy.

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Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: DarthDingusMaximus on February 18, 2021, 05:46:54 AM
Lawyer up, cops can't cut deals only the DA can. And don't ever believe that "we'll put in a good word for you with the prosecutor" shit. I also only associate with others that are smart enough to know these things.

I hail from the streets where "Stop Snitchin" videos were born.

In high school I was once suspended for not snitching. I wasn't even one of the accused, I was a witness. I ain't see shit and I ain't got nothing to say.
For sure this, I got a rad lawyer from my family and I ain't talking to no bitch ass cops.
https://youtu.be/S_OjGfJ42ic
My favorite interrogation scene more like Finster ya flip ya yaflip ya for real
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 18, 2021, 08:26:29 AM
I’m gonna leave this here in case you have never heard this warning directly spoken to you by a cop. There is a reason they are forced to warn you of the following:

You have the right to remain silent and refuse to answer questions.
Anything you say may be used against you in a court of law.
You have the right to consult an attorney before speaking to the police and to have an attorney present during questioning now or in the future.
If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you wish.
If you decide to answer questions now without an attorney present, you will still have the right to stop answering at any time until you talk to an attorney.
Knowing and understanding your rights as I have explained them to you, are you willing to answer my questions without an attorney present?
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: cky enthusiast on February 18, 2021, 08:39:15 AM
i do not talk to police under any circumstances without a lawyer present


if you are in it deep enough to be looking at 25 to life you’re also in deep enough for someone to fuck you up for talking.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Mesteezo on February 18, 2021, 08:50:59 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/2zk8s.jpg)

Also, don't talk to cops, that's what lawyers are for.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: DarthDingusMaximus on February 18, 2021, 09:08:38 AM
i do not talk to police under any circumstances without a lawyer present


if you are in it deep enough to be looking at 25 to life you’re also in deep enough for someone to fuck you up for talking.

Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: fredgallSOTY on February 18, 2021, 09:44:56 AM
yes... precisely

even if u rat and get out someones gonna murk you


never tell g, i dont come from a place where thats an option lmaooo
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Telly on February 18, 2021, 12:16:47 PM
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 

I’m not doing anything to be looking at 25 to life. 
But let’s imagine how that could happen to somebody who is generally law abiding:

Drunk driving related deaths- I don’t drink, but this would be the most likely scenario I can imagine anybody I know getting 25 to life.  Probably not too likely for anybody I know(criminal record, etc).  I don’t drink but once or twice a year, and I would never get behind the wheel after doing so. 
Transferring/selling of drugs- not going to happen to me because I would never take anything that didn’t come from a pharmacy.  How can I be sure?  Because I would never take a “street” pill.  Ever.  I assume it’s all fake and laced with fentanyl.  And I would never sell anybody anything, so that’s not going to happen.  I know people who might do that. 

But how else is that going to just “happen?”  If you’re looking at 25 to life you’ve either been playing this game awhile or you just jumped in and made a miscalculation on your timing. 
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Easy Slider on February 18, 2021, 01:38:57 PM

You wake up every morning
In this living hell
Not knowing that
You're worst enemy is me
You never know what can happen
Within this cell
Betrayal is what I feel
Revenge is what I seek
No hesitation, no turning back
I gotta do it, I have no choice
Gotta do what I
Gotta do for the crew
Down by law
What you did I can't
Forgive my so called brother
I can't let my feelings
Get in the way
Why you turn your back
On the crew
We always had your back
We'd die for you
You ratted on your boy
Something you never do

Now his life is over
And yours is too
Down by law
We made a promise to eachother
A promise that you choose to break
We stuck together no matter what
My brother
You turned you're back
And proved you're fake
Down by law
You've left me no choise
The strength of a gesture
A thought with no voice
The clock is ticking
You're time is up
Now's my chance, I gotta move fast
Our memories I put to rest
It's the law we chose to live by
You broke the fuckin' rules
You must die
Why
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: 50mm on February 18, 2021, 03:32:39 PM
people who are really anal on the "no i would never snitch" are the same types that crack in the principals office
In elementary school me and my best friend got called to the principals office because we were telling kids they were in the "gay club". Just little kid shit, talking shit, but someone got upset and told. We are in the principals office crying, because we know we are in trouble. The principal asks my friend if he even knows what "gay" means and my friend, through hysterical tears, bawling says "It's when 2 men, make love from behind." I thought I was gonna die laughing, it was so funny to me to see the principal call him out and he actually didn't know what he was talking about.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Fhk on February 18, 2021, 04:25:18 PM
The op is obviously clever, which makes the thought process behind creating this poll very intriguing to me.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: SneakySecrets on February 18, 2021, 04:58:05 PM
^ I’ve just been watching a bunch of true crime and police interrogation stuff lately, so I got kinda curious to know what/how I’d do in that situation.  Wish I had something more interesting to tell you, haha.

This Jim Can’t Swim dude makes really well-done, fascinating videos if anyone’s interested in that kinda thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfg861hO-Ag&feature=share

Of course, just like lots of people said, the correct answer is to not say shit and immediately lawyer up.

Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Sightunseen on February 18, 2021, 06:41:13 PM
Never snitch
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: cky enthusiast on February 18, 2021, 07:12:01 PM
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people who are really anal on the "no i would never snitch" are the same types that crack in the principals office
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In elementary school me and my best friend got called to the principals office because we were telling kids they were in the "gay club". Just little kid shit, talking shit, but someone got upset and told. We are in the principals office crying, because we know we are in trouble. The principal asks my friend if he even knows what "gay" means and my friend, through hysterical tears, bawling says "It's when 2 men, make love from behind." I thought I was gonna die laughing, it was so funny to me to see the principal call him out and he actually didn't know what he was talking about.

(https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/mortal-kombat-fatalities.jpeg?fit=1440%2C810)
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Hefe43 on February 18, 2021, 11:16:32 PM
Never talk to the cops they’re out to fuck you even if you’re innocent
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: 50mm on February 18, 2021, 11:27:44 PM
^ I’ve just been watching a bunch of true crime and police interrogation stuff lately, so I got kinda curious to know what/how I’d do in that situation.  Wish I had something more interesting to tell you, haha.

This Jim Can’t Swim dude makes really well-done, fascinating videos if anyone’s interested in that kinda thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfg861hO-Ag&feature=share

Of course, just like lots of people said, the correct answer is to not say shit and immediately lawyer up.


Great videos. I am a good bullshitter and a good reader of other people's body language. But something like that I think I would crack in an instant.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Sarcasm on February 19, 2021, 07:47:04 AM
I'm not snitchin', fuckin' hate stitches.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 19, 2021, 09:05:04 AM
B.L.J.
Be like Jeff
https://youtu.be/9x2NaGkl6BI
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: OldCandy on February 19, 2021, 07:19:51 PM
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people who are really anal on the "no i would never snitch" are the same types that crack in the principals office
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In elementary school me and my best friend got called to the principals office because we were telling kids they were in the "gay club". Just little kid shit, talking shit, but someone got upset and told. We are in the principals office crying, because we know we are in trouble. The principal asks my friend if he even knows what "gay" means and my friend, through hysterical tears, bawling says "It's when 2 men, make love from behind." I thought I was gonna die laughing, it was so funny to me to see the principal call him out and he actually didn't know what he was talking about.

oh to be in that room
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: matty_c on February 19, 2021, 07:47:52 PM
The op is obviously clever, which makes the thought process behind creating this poll very intriguing to me.

Sneaky’s a madlad but I appreciate you for being a meta cunt
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Dwyck on February 19, 2021, 08:08:41 PM
Carv snitched to Burrell so no
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Fhk on February 19, 2021, 08:10:52 PM
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The op is obviously clever, which makes the thought process behind creating this poll very intriguing to me.
[close]

Sneaky’s a madlad but I appreciate you for being a meta cunt
I appreciate that bub!
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Telly on February 19, 2021, 08:56:50 PM
Carv snitched to Burrell so no

What about bubbles?  Or Omar? 
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: TheLurper on February 19, 2021, 09:37:41 PM
Carv snitched to Burrell so no

Dude got promoted for it though.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Dwyck on February 20, 2021, 06:55:34 PM
You dont want to get caught out like Carv, because that's betrayal. You dont want to get caught out like Wallace or Dee because without covering your ass, something will get back to you. Omar covered his ass his whole life and Bubs had a vendetta, the will to do good and nothing to lose.
I just hate early season Carv
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: SneakySecrets on February 20, 2021, 10:19:25 PM
^I think the key is to be like those slick ass Greek dudes that aren’t even Greek.

Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Telly on February 20, 2021, 11:09:01 PM
^I think the key is to be like those slick ass Greek dudes that aren’t even Greek.

Definitely don’t rat on them.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: TheLurper on February 20, 2021, 11:21:04 PM
Interestingly enough if Frank, Dee, and Wallace would have just completely rolled over and left the game behind they'd be fine.

The worst rat in the whole show is that white cop with the terrible haircut that calls the news about hamseterdam. Fuck that dude.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Telly on February 20, 2021, 11:27:38 PM
You dont want to get caught out like Carv, because that's betrayal. You dont want to get caught out like Wallace or Dee because without covering your ass, something will get back to you. Omar covered his ass his whole life and Bubs had a vendetta, the will to do good and nothing to lose.
I just hate early season Carv

I pretty much agree.  Didn’t D ultimately decide to just say fuck everybody and do his time though?   
Minor difference.  Also you have randy, who was fairly doomed but it all stemmed from him snitching to get out of his own trouble, as I recall. 
My question was more along the lines of “Is all snitching the same?”  Which the wire shows us, it clearly not.
As I said in my earlier post I’m not doing anything to put myself in a snitching type position but is there a difference between snitching and “witnessing?”  If somebody wants to commit crimes that aren’t going to necessarily damage society as a whole (drink underage, sell weed, etc) then I’m not going to get involved but if a group of hells angels or crips shoots up a gas station because their rivals had been gathered there en route to the criminal rally then I might have something to say. Only one death but it was a father to a 6 month old who had been having a cigarette around the corner while his wife fueled the car.  They were nice like that.  Also paralyzed was a very talented high school football player.  Total jerk.  He had hangers on but nobody liked what he offered besides his football talent.  He was getting Gatorade after a long run.
In those type scenarios then yes I’m talking.  If I can help identify and testify against that kind of reckless disregard then fuck off, I’d witness, testify, snitch, whatever you choose to call it
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: cky enthusiast on February 21, 2021, 06:11:03 AM
oh my god of course you nerds start talking about the wire
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: JANUS on February 21, 2021, 06:40:59 AM
Man, I should have been like Jeff.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: hotstudios_on_youtube on February 21, 2021, 07:28:16 AM
if they're white im snitching

family is a no
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 21, 2021, 10:22:09 AM
I'd rather die than rat.

I am vigilant af. I hand out justice on the spot and need no cops
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Freelancevagrant on February 21, 2021, 12:23:36 PM
Snitching is reactionary.

Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Telly on February 21, 2021, 08:49:51 PM
Was thinking about this today after an incident at work.
Is the anti-snitching movement any better than complicity with law and order?  I’ve seen the wire and I get that marlo was handing out money and Avon was charitable and I’m sure that happens, but are these people being protected by not snitching improving the lives of the people who protect them? Or is it just the fear of reprisal keeping them complicit?   Are they building community?  I get that they employ people and people make good money, and good money is hard to come by, but at what cost?
I don’t know, but’s it’s not as simple as snitching=bad.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: pugmaster on February 22, 2021, 10:14:42 PM
Under the guise of inspiring discourse, SneakySecrets has effectively outed any Slap PALS who cannot be folded into his "plan", whatever that may be, as they are a risk to his operation(s).

This has the Lufthansa heist written all over it.  And so you might ask yourself, "when will it occur"?

It could be today, it could be tomorrow, but only time will tell.

Nice try "Sneaky".

EDIT: Nice fucking try.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: rawr1922 on February 22, 2021, 10:44:26 PM
100% ratt immediately.
From my experience, everyone ratts. Protect yo neck. 
Someone may take the dive for you the first time however if busted a 2nd time guarantee they throw you under bus. 
 



Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: Gogogadget1987 on February 23, 2021, 09:31:20 AM
Naw, got to lawyer up in a case like this. Like someone earlier said if you are looking at time like this then you did something where someone is going to murk you for talking
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: SneakySecrets on February 23, 2021, 01:55:49 PM
Under the guise of inspiring discourse, SneakySecrets has effectively outed any Slap PALS who cannot be folded into his "plan", whatever that may be, as they are a risk to his operation(s).

This has the Lufthansa heist written all over it.  And so you might ask yourself, "when will it occur"?

It could be today, it could be tomorrow, but only time will tell.

Nice try "Sneaky".

EDIT: Nice fucking try.

I can neither confirm nor deny anything you just said.   :-X


P.S.  You’re out.
Title: Re: Would you rat?
Post by: ghettygreensili on February 23, 2021, 02:00:27 PM
You are arrested along with at least one other person for some serious 25 to life, no parole type shit.  The police interrogate you separately and offer you a deal if you to spill the beans on anyone involved.

Are you snitching?

Realistically, it's best not to say anything. Not fucking anything. That whole "anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law". That is far more real than you can even realize. It's not up for the police to give you a deal. The only person that is going to give you a deal or a plea bargain will be a district attorney or a judge. The only thing to say if at all is "I will only be speaking with my lawyer". Even if you don't have one. The state will appoint a lawyer.

But yea it's easiest to just not do illegal shit. Then you don't have to worry about it.