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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6150 on: April 29, 2024, 05:28:52 PM »
Some thoughts after one month on the 93’s: I think I’m starting to prefer the radials to the classic shape. They seem to keep speed better in most conditions and on a purely aesthetic note I just like the way they look a little better. Still haven’t decided if they’re gonna be my full time wheel but I’m noticeably less sore, especially in my feet after a session when I’m skating the 93’s and haven’t really had the urge to change back aside from a few sessions at a local skatepark early on in my time with them. I really wish they made the radial in a 52mm since the reason I was riding 54mm in 99a was to have more speed and not get tripped up on cracks/pebbles as much on the street spots I usually skate. With these I’d feel more comfortable on a smaller wheel knowing they have the ability to cruise over crust and cracks and I’d suffer less wheelbite on flip tricks with my thunder hollow lights.

Overall I’m really happy with them and aside from a flatspot on the classics (which worked itself out in one session) that I got from sliding out on a varial heel attempt I’ve had no issues with their performance. They do feel a slight bit sticky compared to a 99 when doing sharp turns I noticed, but it’s minimal and something I’m willing to adapt to unless it becomes more prevalent as the wheel ages.



Re 93 duro wheels

Do they seem to wear down about the same, faster or slower?

I know getting 54 mm Classics and wearing them down to 52 mm was always a good size and shape, like fat little Classic Full wheels, but the Radials are pretty solid for everything.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6151 on: April 29, 2024, 05:56:27 PM »
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Some thoughts after one month on the 93’s: I think I’m starting to prefer the radials to the classic shape. They seem to keep speed better in most conditions and on a purely aesthetic note I just like the way they look a little better. Still haven’t decided if they’re gonna be my full time wheel but I’m noticeably less sore, especially in my feet after a session when I’m skating the 93’s and haven’t really had the urge to change back aside from a few sessions at a local skatepark early on in my time with them. I really wish they made the radial in a 52mm since the reason I was riding 54mm in 99a was to have more speed and not get tripped up on cracks/pebbles as much on the street spots I usually skate. With these I’d feel more comfortable on a smaller wheel knowing they have the ability to cruise over crust and cracks and I’d suffer less wheelbite on flip tricks with my thunder hollow lights.

Overall I’m really happy with them and aside from a flatspot on the classics (which worked itself out in one session) that I got from sliding out on a varial heel attempt I’ve had no issues with their performance. They do feel a slight bit sticky compared to a 99 when doing sharp turns I noticed, but it’s minimal and something I’m willing to adapt to unless it becomes more prevalent as the wheel ages.
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Re 93 duro wheels

Do they seem to wear down about the same, faster or slower?

I know getting 54 mm Classics and wearing them down to 52 mm was always a good size and shape, like fat little Classic Full wheels, but the Radials are pretty solid for everything.

I just went to measure the classics the other day and my caliper was randomly just broken so I’m gonna need to pickup another because I feel like they’ve already worn down quite a bit in the month I’ve ridden them. The contact patch is definitely wider so I’m assuming they’re around a 53 now. I agree though, a 54 worn down to about a 51-52 is the sweet spot. I have a set of 99’s that I was riding before these that I keep wanting to setup because they’re at that perfect stage, but I’m staying on these for science.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6152 on: April 29, 2024, 06:21:01 PM »
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so i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.


I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.
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Is that what you've been riding lately on ig? Looks like it.
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riding 2 setups lol between the 99a and the 93a



the line i am riding the 93a 56mm radial and the single tricks is all on my 52mm classic full 99a

i am not sure if i can fully give up the 99a yet. but i am thinking i will go up to 54mm radial. the sound is so awesome on the harder wheel but i dont feel like its really providing me any advantage... It definitely is more icy but i dont think its a huge difference. i did those same tricks on the radial setup as well and it felt like i wasnt grinding as long, but i definitely could still do them all.

Yeah that the video. They look fast. I can see it. I think they're good for you.

All these comments are encouraging. I hope soft wheels stick around

Has anyone gotten a really bad bounce yet leading to injury from basics?. Like the dragons
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6153 on: April 29, 2024, 06:29:53 PM »
Check out the Jason Dagner video too. Shows smooth ground performance
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6154 on: April 29, 2024, 07:37:12 PM »
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so i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.


I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.
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Is that what you've been riding lately on ig? Looks like it.
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riding 2 setups lol between the 99a and the 93a



the line i am riding the 93a 56mm radial and the single tricks is all on my 52mm classic full 99a

i am not sure if i can fully give up the 99a yet. but i am thinking i will go up to 54mm radial. the sound is so awesome on the harder wheel but i dont feel like its really providing me any advantage... It definitely is more icy but i dont think its a huge difference. i did those same tricks on the radial setup as well and it felt like i wasnt grinding as long, but i definitely could still do them all.
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Yeah that the video. They look fast. I can see it. I think they're good for you.

All these comments are encouraging. I hope soft wheels stick around

Has anyone gotten a really bad bounce yet leading to injury from basics?. Like the dragons

I got a mild slam the other day due to the wheels sticking on a pivot out of a nosemanual, and a few wheelbite incidents I’m fairly sure were because of the soft duro. One thing to note too that I’m wary of is the temperature change coming in summer. Soft wheels will feel even softer on hot pavement/concrete so I’m not sure I’m gonna stick with them once we get above 85 on a regular basis :/

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6155 on: April 29, 2024, 08:47:07 PM »
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so i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.


I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.
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Is that what you've been riding lately on ig? Looks like it.
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riding 2 setups lol between the 99a and the 93a



the line i am riding the 93a 56mm radial and the single tricks is all on my 52mm classic full 99a

i am not sure if i can fully give up the 99a yet. but i am thinking i will go up to 54mm radial. the sound is so awesome on the harder wheel but i dont feel like its really providing me any advantage... It definitely is more icy but i dont think its a huge difference. i did those same tricks on the radial setup as well and it felt like i wasnt grinding as long, but i definitely could still do them all.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6156 on: April 30, 2024, 08:02:23 AM »
Im on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.

Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6157 on: April 30, 2024, 08:47:10 AM »
Im on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.

Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1

Notice much difference between 93 and x97?
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6158 on: May 01, 2024, 12:03:40 AM »
Im on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.

Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6159 on: May 01, 2024, 06:55:37 AM »
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so i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.


I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.
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Is that what you've been riding lately on ig? Looks like it.
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riding 2 setups lol between the 99a and the 93a


the line i am riding the 93a 56mm radial and the single tricks is all on my 52mm classic full 99a

i am not sure if i can fully give up the 99a yet. but i am thinking i will go up to 54mm radial. the sound is so awesome on the harder wheel but i dont feel like its really providing me any advantage... It definitely is more icy but i dont think its a huge difference. i did those same tricks on the radial setup as well and it felt like i wasnt grinding as long, but i definitely could still do them all.
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Yeah that the video. They look fast. I can see it. I think they're good for you.

All these comments are encouraging. I hope soft wheels stick around

Has anyone gotten a really bad bounce yet leading to injury from basics?. Like the dragons

when i do a bigspin that spins on the floor, if i treat it like the 99a i will stick. i did this once with dragons and slammed badly lol. i did it once on the 93a and i was able to save it still. its all about being prepared for it. it will work. i was trying to skate with 95a wheels and I could actually make it work for the most part so this is like a huge huge step above in both directions which is kinda hilarious.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6160 on: May 01, 2024, 07:21:23 PM »
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Im on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.

Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1
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Notice much difference between 93 and x97?

nothing particular, but maybe i should try the x97 again and see

But then again, i skated x97 mostly indoors and maybe two times in a concrete park

maybe buy x99 like rikki wrote, flippin wheel madness

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6161 on: May 01, 2024, 08:59:17 PM »
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Im on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.

Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1
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Notice much difference between 93 and x97?

According to my subjective experience, 93s slide much better on curbs/ledges than x97. No idea why. The x97s stuck so bad I could not do a single slappy noseslide properly. Another difference is that was on Indys back then, now on Ventures.

That's all I can remember about x97s, tried them quickly few times but they never worked for me.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6162 on: May 02, 2024, 08:59:10 AM »
I got my 93's f4's today. Crazy that they retain for €75 in France (thank fuck I got a discount). Cannot wait to skate them. I feel bad for teen aged kids gear is getting crazy expensive.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6163 on: May 02, 2024, 09:12:14 AM »
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6164 on: May 02, 2024, 11:12:43 AM »
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6165 on: May 02, 2024, 11:24:44 AM »
I legitimately can’t make my mind up on these 93’s after 5 weeks on them. Idk, maybe it’s some part of me that doesn’t want to feel old riding a softer wheel but I’m starting to miss the feel of “normal” wheels.

On one hand, they offer a safety net for slipping out which is great, possibly the biggest benefit aside from them absorbing more shock from rolling over rough terrain and cracks. On the other hand, I just feel slower when I push. Not like I skate super fast or anything but it’s kind of a feeling like trying to punch underwater when I push. Not really a problem for single trick attempts where you throw your board down and push once for an obstacle nearby, but just pushing around a skatepark or any ground remotely smooth I felt like my effort doesn’t meet the expectations engrained in my muscle memory from years of riding a harder wheel.

Then there’s the wheelbite, I wish I’d have gone 52mm for the classics because a 54 just seems to be hindering a lot of my landings and flip tricks which was never a problem on a 99. The amount of times I felt the wheels stick to the board upon landing, pitching me off has become a bit of an annoyance. This also goes for tricks that require or would be saved by a pivot to regain control, the 93’s have stopped dead in their tracks and made me miss a trick more than a few times now, depending on the ground.

They don’t feel too bouncy or sound awful like other softer wheels on the market but they don’t feel like a traditional formula 4 either.
They slide fine against every material I’ve put them up against but my biggest issue is the lack of speed (that I’m used to) while pushing around. I’m gonna try to wear them down further before I decide if I’ll retire them as a “certain spot only” wheel or adapt myself to running them full time. I’m truly on the fence here.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6166 on: May 02, 2024, 11:54:07 AM »
If wheelbite is an issue it sounds like you gotta hit Jim T up for some Ventures and awaken yourself vs. those Thunders. Between Thunders and Aces that are in your videos you have been on trucks that definitely can end up with a lot of wheelbite.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6167 on: May 02, 2024, 11:59:47 AM »
If wheelbite is an issue it sounds like you gotta hit Jim T up for some Ventures and awaken yourself vs. those Thunders. Between Thunders and Aces that are in your videos you have been on trucks that definitely can end up with a lot of wheelbite.

I never had an issue on 54mm even on forged thunders or super loose AF1’s. I’d sooner switch to a smaller 93 than ride ventures. No shade to venture enjoyers they’re just not for me.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6168 on: May 02, 2024, 12:11:39 PM »
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Im on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.

Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1
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X99 to solve all your madnessesses

I agree, the x99 for some reason feel better than the x97. The dragons are nice for a cruiser you wanna do a little skating. The f4 93 I like a lot for hard street skating that’s somewhat forgiving.

For me its between the x99 and f4 93 on regular setup/everything everyday skating

I think if you want slightly softer feeling the bones is always the way to go

The f4 93 feel like a regular f4 with some forgiveness to rough ground
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6169 on: May 02, 2024, 12:24:44 PM »
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Im on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.

Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1
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X99 to solve all your madnessesses
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I agree, the x99 for some reason feel better than the x97. The dragons are nice for a cruiser you wanna do a little skating. The f4 93 I like a lot for hard street skating that’s somewhat forgiving.

For me its between the x99 and f4 93 on regular setup/everything everyday skating

I think if you want slightly softer feeling the bones is always the way to go

The f4 93 feel like a regular f4 with some forgiveness to rough ground

I'm really hopeful for the Spit 97a reformulation, I want the X99 performance but with the sound of spit 93s...after all the soft wheel riding and spit 99/101s I've done over the past few months I find it funny I'm riding 103 STFs...slide amazing and that sort of plasticky feel (and sound) feel less hard/vibrate less than spit 99s.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6170 on: May 02, 2024, 01:19:45 PM »
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6171 on: May 02, 2024, 01:35:54 PM »
I am also torn with what duro to skate, if im in the streets lately it's been the 97. I can also do the 93 but they have limitations with pinch on feebles and smiths. I noticed they bite on my board and stick.
At skateparks and smooth ground I would prefer the 99 but the second I'm in the streets I just want my 97's back.
So for now I'm back on 97's fulltime, excited for a version that slides better but have no complaints with the ones I'm currently on(56 radial full).
My big gripe with 93 was for a specific spot or two i regularly skate and crook/noseslide seem to stick everytime. Probably my lack of skill mostly but I need all the help I can get.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6172 on: May 02, 2024, 02:42:04 PM »
The 93 stick worse on park coping than the 97. I thought the 97 were meh before, but I appreciate that they don't stick on park coping at all and take some (not much) bite out of street terrain.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6173 on: Today at 07:27:23 AM »
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I am on the 56mm Radials
I am sliding pretty well on them I have to say, not hanging up on feebles on double siders or anything.
They dont feel slow at all to me. And I dont feel like I am wheelbiting on these Indy standards. The setup sounds like absolute shit though. Rattley as fuck with rails, wheels hardly make any sound, and the indy squeak ;D
For shitty spots this feels so much better than skating 99a to me.

I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6174 on: Today at 08:13:56 AM »


I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.

Just swap wheels spot to spot?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6175 on: Today at 08:25:37 AM »
Tried Spitfire 99, 93 and bones x97 last session probably gonna stick with x97. Sorry Spitfire

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6176 on: Today at 08:56:35 AM »
Can't be arsed to swap wheels from spot to spot.

Current street/spot/crust setup: X99 (gonna try out the Spit 93s for comparison soon)
Park/smooth ground setup: F4 99

X97s have become obsolete for me. They kinda fall in between everything. They don't bring any advantage over the X99 in my opinion, they're slower than most wheels and if it's mega fucking crusty, I'd rather go for Dragons, but anyway I seem to favour the X99 in pretty much any conditions these days.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6177 on: Today at 09:00:39 AM »
https://streamable.com/nebsx6
https://streamable.com/1eef1t

I am on the 56mm Radials
I am sliding pretty well on them I have to say, not hanging up on feebles on double siders or anything.
They dont feel slow at all to me. And I dont feel like I am wheelbiting on these Indy standards. The setup sounds like absolute shit though. Rattley as fuck with rails, wheels hardly make any sound, and the indy squeak ;D
For shitty spots this feels so much better than skating 99a to me.

I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.
do you ever try Scotch padded mounting tape under the rails? Works really well to dampen the noise.


On a side note, just picked up some 54mm Radial 93s, and it looks like the color is slightly translucent white, at least more so than my 99s or 97s.  Is it safe to say F4s lean more towards potato for harder duros, and more white for softer?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6178 on: Today at 09:11:02 AM »
Can't be arsed to swap wheels from spot to spot.

Current street/spot/crust setup: X99 (gonna try out the Spit 93s for comparison soon)
Park/smooth ground setup: F4 99

X97s have become obsolete for me. They kinda fall in between everything. They don't bring any advantage over the X99 in my opinion, they're slower than most wheels and if it's mega fucking crusty, I'd rather go for Dragons, but anyway I seem to favour the X99 in pretty much any conditions these days.

Nah X97 are still good for older rougher parks and street spots, more grip than X99 which still feel hard. They feel closer to F4 93a, Dragons for the crustiest of spots.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6179 on: Today at 09:53:19 AM »
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I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.
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Just swap wheels spot to spot?

That’s true!
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https://streamable.com/nebsx6
https://streamable.com/1eef1t

I am on the 56mm Radials
I am sliding pretty well on them I have to say, not hanging up on feebles on double siders or anything.
They dont feel slow at all to me. And I dont feel like I am wheelbiting on these Indy standards. The setup sounds like absolute shit though. Rattley as fuck with rails, wheels hardly make any sound, and the indy squeak ;D
For shitty spots this feels so much better than skating 99a to me.

I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.
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do you ever try Scotch padded mounting tape under the rails? Works really well to dampen the noise.


Definitely going to try that!