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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1860 on: September 11, 2021, 04:32:15 PM »
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Ok stupid question. Are the titanium's lighter than the hollows?

I see they still make them in 5.2 low
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Yes, by around 20g?

And where are you seeing them? I've seen loads of counterfeit ones on Aliexpress and Alibaba. Usually the P-Rod Golden eagle one.
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Thanks dog

I just saw them on their summer catalog

Now one more question which is really pernickety

Is the wheelbase the same as the hollows?

Have you ever skated them? Are they too light? What's the grind like ?

Same wheelbase I assume, I keep my baseplate on and swap between my 5.6 V-Hollow or Titanium hanger when I want more or less weight on my board. On a thinner setup with skinny wheels I'd go with the V-Hollows.

They both grind the same and the weight is noticeable but not game changing like an Indy that is heavy as is. Can't go wrong with either but go for the TI if you can afford it, wouldn't say the same for Thunder because it's already very light and the weight reduction hurts the performance.

The grind is very hard for a start, much harder Metal than Thunder but I love it, it feels beefy. And that pinch can be beat, especially on the 5.2 Lo,
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1861 on: September 12, 2021, 02:09:50 AM »
I have real problem with ventures, I wrecked my first set by blowing out the pivot cups, skating metal on metal for months until i took them appart and realised I now had to fork out a significant amount of money to replace them. FF a few months and now my pivot cups are again coming apart, everyone in my crew I talk to tells me they never replaced their cups in years of skating and some were even clueless that their trucks had pivot cups in them. So am I unlucky or have some of you encountered this problem too? And if this is of any significance I ride my trucks on the very loose side.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1862 on: September 12, 2021, 02:49:14 AM »
I have real problem with ventures, I wrecked my first set by blowing out the pivot cups, skating metal on metal for months until i took them appart and realised I now had to fork out a significant amount of money to replace them. FF a few months and now my pivot cups are again coming apart, everyone in my crew I talk to tells me they never replaced their cups in years of skating and some were even clueless that their trucks had pivot cups in them. So am I unlucky or have some of you encountered this problem too? And if this is of any significance I ride my trucks on the very loose side.


I have definitely noticed if the trucks pivot point is damaged, new replacement pivot cups never last as long, compared to those trucks that have undamaged pivot points.  Trying to smooth down or take sharp edges off pivot points works a bit but often the change in shape or length of the pivot point will alter the turn of the truck too, or how much it will sit down in there.

Regardless of loose or tight trucks, the bushings can also change the angle of the hanger for better or worse too, so if the bushings sit lower (especially the bottom bushing) then the pivot point will also change and put more pressure on the hanger end.


Silly as it may sound, putting a bit of shoe goo in and around the pivot point and letting it half dry is one way I know people have been able to sort out their pivot cup issues with damaged or worn down pivot point on the hangers.

Keeping an eye on the trucks also helps, but you don't have to keep taking them off after every session to check.  Seen people do that and go through a lot of pivot cups way too quickly without them even being worn out, more from the fear of having an issue with them than anything else.



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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1863 on: September 12, 2021, 04:27:25 AM »
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I have real problem with ventures, I wrecked my first set by blowing out the pivot cups, skating metal on metal for months until i took them appart and realised I now had to fork out a significant amount of money to replace them. FF a few months and now my pivot cups are again coming apart, everyone in my crew I talk to tells me they never replaced their cups in years of skating and some were even clueless that their trucks had pivot cups in them. So am I unlucky or have some of you encountered this problem too? And if this is of any significance I ride my trucks on the very loose side.
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I have definitely noticed if the trucks pivot point is damaged, new replacement pivot cups never last as long, compared to those trucks that have undamaged pivot points.  Trying to smooth down or take sharp edges off pivot points works a bit but often the change in shape or length of the pivot point will alter the turn of the truck too, or how much it will sit down in there.

Regardless of loose or tight trucks, the bushings can also change the angle of the hanger for better or worse too, so if the bushings sit lower (especially the bottom bushing) then the pivot point will also change and put more pressure on the hanger end.


Silly as it may sound, putting a bit of shoe goo in and around the pivot point and letting it half dry is one way I know people have been able to sort out their pivot cup issues with damaged or worn down pivot point on the hangers.

Keeping an eye on the trucks also helps, but you don't have to keep taking them off after every session to check.  Seen people do that and go through a lot of pivot cups way too quickly without them even being worn out, more from the fear of having an issue with them than anything else.

Oh yes I forgot to mention my trucks are somewhat low as well, thanks for the shoe too tip, I’ll try that out for sure. My trucks aren’t damaged thankfully (I’m still hurting from finding out how expensive trucks can be) so I really only need to switch out the old crummy ones and pop some fresh ones back in. I really wish someone had told me about gear maintenance before my trucks went crazy, I lost all my tricks and landed primo half of the time!  ;D

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1864 on: September 13, 2021, 05:24:51 PM »
In an effort to get the urge to try them out of my system, I set up a set of Venture 5.2 Lo’s (the regular polished team ones) that I had bought sometime last year and never skated on my board today.  I have to admit - after the initial shock of not being able to really turn wore off (coming from Ace 44s) it was a great session.  I haven’t skated Venture Lo’s since about 2001/2002 and I’m a bit of a sucker for the nostalgia of the late 90’s early 2000’s Philly/San Francisco/New York skating vibes that I associate with the trucks. 

The pop is so quick and snappy that skating lower ledges/benches is effortless.  It was a trip grinding down the kingpin/nut almost right away (haven’t experienced that in many years) but overall the grind wasn’t horrible.  I strangely also had one of my most consistent days of slappy 5050s ever, despite skating 8 inch, low trucks on an 8.25” deck, which breaks every rule I’ve heard regarding good slappy board setups.  The biggest downside (other than the turning) was the wheelbite.  I’m skating 54 mm conical fulls that are probably worn down to 52ish mm.  Not sure I could ever sacrifice smooth riding and go smaller or to a thinner shape. 

Overall I’m pleasantly surprised and it feels kinda good to skate something totally different than the Ace or Venture highs I see every day (and skate myself usually). Probably against my better judgement I think I’ll actually carry these over to my next setup and see where it takes me. 

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1865 on: September 14, 2021, 12:53:24 AM »
Alright I changed my pivot cups for the second time and wow, I did not remember how ridiculously hard it was to remove them  ;D
After almost stabbing myself with a screwdriver I went out for a session and damn, new pivot cups don’t feel good at all. Guess you need time for them to set in nice and good but it’s frustrating to fail tricks you’ve somewhat understood. Guess the shoe goo drop tip prevents that, will def do that next time

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1866 on: September 14, 2021, 05:20:11 AM »
Alright I changed my pivot cups for the second time and wow, I did not remember how ridiculously hard it was to remove them  ;D
After almost stabbing myself with a screwdriver I went out for a session and damn, new pivot cups don’t feel good at all. Guess you need time for them to set in nice and good but it’s frustrating to fail tricks you’ve somewhat understood. Guess the shoe goo drop tip prevents that, will def do that next time

I got some aftermarket pivot cups from riptide, people are prolly tired of hearing me pipe up about them, but I really stand behind their shit, I got the venture pvivot cups they make, hhuuuugggeee difference, give them a shot if you have the extra skrilla
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1867 on: September 14, 2021, 05:37:44 AM »
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Alright I changed my pivot cups for the second time and wow, I did not remember how ridiculously hard it was to remove them  ;D
After almost stabbing myself with a screwdriver I went out for a session and damn, new pivot cups don’t feel good at all. Guess you need time for them to set in nice and good but it’s frustrating to fail tricks you’ve somewhat understood. Guess the shoe goo drop tip prevents that, will def do that next time
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I got some aftermarket pivot cups from riptide, people are prolly tired of hearing me pipe up about them, but I really stand behind their shit, I got the venture pvivot cups they make, hhuuuugggeee difference, give them a shot if you have the extra skrilla

Kindly elaborate, I just swapped mine out for some generic ones, didn't notice any difference from the old ones.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1868 on: September 14, 2021, 06:22:06 AM »
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Alright I changed my pivot cups for the second time and wow, I did not remember how ridiculously hard it was to remove them  ;D
After almost stabbing myself with a screwdriver I went out for a session and damn, new pivot cups don’t feel good at all. Guess you need time for them to set in nice and good but it’s frustrating to fail tricks you’ve somewhat understood. Guess the shoe goo drop tip prevents that, will def do that next time
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I got some aftermarket pivot cups from riptide, people are prolly tired of hearing me pipe up about them, but I really stand behind their shit, I got the venture pvivot cups they make, hhuuuugggeee difference, give them a shot if you have the extra skrilla
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Kindly elaborate, I just swapped mine out for some generic ones, didn't notice any difference from the old ones.

Cushier ride, not having to dig so much with my heel or toe to get the carve I want going into slappies, they machine each pivot cup to that specific truck as well, so if you buy venture pivot cups they are made for venture, they broke in quite quickly too, I think that has to do with them being Internally lubricated or some shit, I’m not a scientist, but do you, I get made fun of for my gear madness in my friend group, but I feel like they have definitely helped me
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« Reply #1869 on: September 14, 2021, 09:04:05 AM »
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Alright I changed my pivot cups for the second time and wow, I did not remember how ridiculously hard it was to remove them  ;D
After almost stabbing myself with a screwdriver I went out for a session and damn, new pivot cups don’t feel good at all. Guess you need time for them to set in nice and good but it’s frustrating to fail tricks you’ve somewhat understood. Guess the shoe goo drop tip prevents that, will def do that next time
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I got some aftermarket pivot cups from riptide, people are prolly tired of hearing me pipe up about them, but I really stand behind their shit, I got the venture pvivot cups they make, hhuuuugggeee difference, give them a shot if you have the extra skrilla
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Kindly elaborate, I just swapped mine out for some generic ones, didn't notice any difference from the old ones.
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Cushier ride, not having to dig so much with my heel or toe to get the carve I want going into slappies, they machine each pivot cup to that specific truck as well, so if you buy venture pivot cups they are made for venture, they broke in quite quickly too, I think that has to do with them being Internally lubricated or some shit, I’m not a scientist, but do you, I get made fun of for my gear madness in my friend group, but I feel like they have definitely helped me

I could definitely see someone specialise in pivot cup science in an MIT advanced materials course :D
Jokes aside, I’ll be sure to check em out when my current cups end up carking it, shouldn’t be too long with my usual luck in skate gear. Thanks for the recommendation!

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1870 on: September 16, 2021, 06:20:10 AM »
finally received them..Venture 6.1



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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1871 on: September 16, 2021, 09:52:46 AM »
Just switched to Venture from Indy. Overall they’re pretty close despite the dimensions and have their strengths and weaknesses. One thing I haven’t figured out yet are manuals. On Indys I always put my feet a bit diagonal starting in the pocket so I could use the foot that’s on the ground to lean toe/heel to control it. Doesn’t seem to work and they feel heavy on Ventures but I’m sure it’s user error, is there perhaps a different technique that would make them easier?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1872 on: September 16, 2021, 05:14:26 PM »
Just switched to Venture from Indy. Overall they’re pretty close despite the dimensions and have their strengths and weaknesses. One thing I haven’t figured out yet are manuals. On Indys I always put my feet a bit diagonal starting in the pocket so I could use the foot that’s on the ground to lean toe/heel to control it. Doesn’t seem to work and they feel heavy on Ventures but I’m sure it’s user error, is there perhaps a different technique that would make them easier?

Muscle memory is a funny thing, as you will be so used to the manual point with Indy, which is different to Venture (and Thunder and Ace, etc) but the main thing is just stick with it and you will get used to the different manual point soon enough.

I know some people will throw a fit and go back to whatever brand they had before, just because the different trucks felt too different and things didn't work for them, but I feel like putting in the time and just rolling around will help get used to them, rather than getting angry and whatever else.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1873 on: September 16, 2021, 05:18:29 PM »

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Re: Venture 2021
« Reply #1874 on: September 16, 2021, 05:31:51 PM »

Thank you for posting the actual video. I could have sworn I pasted the link but had a brain fart apparently.

You did post in the other thread (so you are not going mad) and I kept thinking I know I had seen you post it here before too, but it wasn't until @ MadeYouLook posted the Venture post from Instagram that I remembered and went looking:

Re: Gilbert Crockett on venture?

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112571.msg3634897#msg3634897



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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1875 on: September 16, 2021, 05:44:56 PM »

Necessity. Does anyone know when these are dropping?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1876 on: September 16, 2021, 06:22:09 PM »
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Necessity. Does anyone know when these are dropping?
They went live for shops to order them this week so definitely soon

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« Reply #1877 on: September 16, 2021, 06:55:29 PM »
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Necessity. Does anyone know when these are dropping?
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They went live for shops to order them this week so definitely soon
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1878 on: September 16, 2021, 08:04:34 PM »
I wanna werk for venture.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1879 on: September 16, 2021, 08:38:00 PM »
Just switched to Venture from Indy. Overall they’re pretty close despite the dimensions and have their strengths and weaknesses. One thing I haven’t figured out yet are manuals. On Indys I always put my feet a bit diagonal starting in the pocket so I could use the foot that’s on the ground to lean toe/heel to control it. Doesn’t seem to work and they feel heavy on Ventures but I’m sure it’s user error, is there perhaps a different technique that would make them easier?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1880 on: September 17, 2021, 07:32:55 AM »
I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1881 on: September 17, 2021, 10:09:33 AM »
I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.

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Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1882 on: September 17, 2021, 11:45:35 AM »
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I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
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You'll be back...
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Aint that the truth brother. Ventures have really calmed everything down for me though. All factors have given the overall feeling of satisfaction to be more than adequate and I've been able to move on from my long relationship with Ace.

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« Reply #1883 on: September 17, 2021, 12:59:09 PM »
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I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
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don't put these vibes out into the cosmos....

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1884 on: September 17, 2021, 02:30:48 PM »
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I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
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You'll be back...
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don't put these vibes out into the cosmos....
been on ventures exclusively for a year+ and see no sensible reason to switch. found the bushing/washer combo i liked and havent looked back
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1885 on: September 17, 2021, 10:54:50 PM »
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I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
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Aint that the truth brother. Ventures have really calmed everything down for me though. All factors have given the overall feeling of satisfaction to be more than adequate and I've been able to move on from my long relationship with Ace.

Hell even among Ventures I feel like I should go down from 5.6 VH to the 5.2 VH just for the pinch. Doesn't help that I'm on 54mm wheels now, so more height.

5.2 VH with a 52mm wheel is just the best pinching combo IMO.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1886 on: September 17, 2021, 11:15:08 PM »
I'm kicking around the idea of setting up an 8....

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1887 on: September 17, 2021, 11:42:53 PM »
I'm kicking around the idea of setting up an 8....

Same, I'm thinking of going from 8.25 to 8.0 just to do 5.2s again, scratch that itch.
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5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1888 on: September 18, 2021, 05:53:21 AM »
im thinking about setting up a tiny 7.75 on venture 5.0...

zumiez has 5.0 on sale for $15 too

i usually skate 8.25 on thunder 149

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« Reply #1889 on: September 18, 2021, 06:33:53 AM »
I bought 5.2 lo yesterday just to try for shits and giggles. I normally rock 5.6 and 8.25, so stepping down won’t be all that significant. I’ve got forged plates in case I wanna try that so I’m set.

The one thing I’m considering are Riptides, but I’ve never ridden. I like the stock bushings a lot and washers seem fine.