I usually ride stage X 159s with 94a bototm 92a top conical indy bushings on 8.38 flat 14.5 wb with the longer nose/tail ratios than 7''/6.5". Krooked/bakers.
So i saw this 8.38x32.75 habitat marius nasa deck a while back and got/stashed it. Then i paired it with 6.1 kaders which needed a bushing swap day 1 bc of wheel bite on my older 52mm 99a SFW spitfires from when i first started riding 159s on 8.38. Got risers with bones hards just flat top bushing only. Board feels like hell its like the "challange" board in my quiver. Sure it blasts ollies and epic half cabs and switch ollies in transition. Its a mother to flip on flat, but still really fun to flip on tranny and steep bank walls.
The 8.75 axle translation Is a bit hard to compare with that epic sled of an 8.38 i call it the cadillac car. As ill be putting the indys onto it to gain some "familiarity" To run ventures on an 8.38x32 baker with concave. I normally ride flat bakers and krookeds but i havent this past year. I rode two 8.8 shapeds instead. With the indys and tried out the ventures on that 32.75 sled. Chipped it to hell on QP's on bs and fs flips.
The 6.1 standards ride well on the 8.8 shaped now that ive finally swapped the indys i got a 2nd pair with yellow bushings. They turn really good and i even got 56mm conicals and the nut is flush on the kingpin and so far no wheelbite w/o risers im guessing its bc of the shape of the deck.
Im going to hunt down an 8.38 flat with a big non rounded/pointy nose/tail. To run the 6.1 kaders on to really see how they feel vs my indys. Im guessing if i really want to like ventures on the normal shape i ride/flip. Im going to have to run 5.8s vs 159 indys which i can still run at 8.75 on 8.38 decks. Or go for a shorter 14.25" wb. Its those aspects as well as the 8.38 ishod twin tail. to test out before i know i can run ventures for life. Then theres the titanium 5.8s or potentially a titanium 6.1. That really pushes the bar for me.
Indys for me are the gold standard for carving/pool riding and generally riding fast as hell. Especially with my conical bushing setup.
Ventures are also a gold standard to me i learned my first ollies and boned bs 180s on venture 5.0s on a 7.63 way back.
To me nothing beats how ventures feel generally for olllies/halfcabs/bs180s/bs airs/bigspins.
Both hangers have their advantages indy last longer/grind longer etc for pool/crete coping and slappys etc
ventures imo have a larger/wider grinding surface on the hanger once their grinded down which leads to easy flip-in/flip out/pop from grinds. and Lock ins. So it really depends on the type of skating i feel like doing that day or how injured i am and how hindered that session is going to be. For me at least. Ill probably run the 6.1 kaders on a 8.38 ishod twin tail, and if i like the deck as much as i think im going to like the trucks for real street skating. Then ill prob stick with that shape and try 5.8 titaniums as my standard park/street setup. Just how they blast ollies and half cabs has me wanting to main 6.1 ventures if not try lighter ones on the 8.8-9.25 shaped pool/park/slappy slasher as well.
As much as i love indys i have to think of their negatives so i dont feel like im cheating in a relationship
the made in china vs made in us
55mm stage XI vs 53mm stage x/9
barrel bushing even though i have to change the kader 6.1 bushings day 1 too.
They stopped selling conical bushings in like 2017 for a window and just recently brought them back....i only like the stage 9/stage x feel....so i must run indy conicals....or spend 10$ damn near a month on bones bushings. Which made me want to buy aces over indy period....only they dont make 8.75 axle....
then manderson kader and worrest jumped ships and are walking ads for venture...then i saw yutos part and thats when i got my 2nd pair of 6.1s XD. TBH i like the 6.1s on my 8.8 more than the 159s and the 6.1 standards on that 8.8 are running stock bushings haha for that venture scored major points. First toss and jump on the board and first try slappy on red curb. Passing grade in my book...with the epic bs air pop to match. Now i just gotta run my Indy conical bushing combo so when land on bs airs and transfers i can blast/pump and hit wall to wall as fast/hard as i do with indys its the one thing indy takes the crown for me at least.
Ventures also have that added bonus of being able to run those REAL wooden risers that are made for ventures which is pretty cool i just got a couple, one for the cadillac, and just in case the 56s start wheelbiting after the 6.1s break in.