I have some ventures in my spare parts box, bought them for nostalgia, but absolutely hate them after years of skating turny-trucks. They definitely have the coolest branding and I want to like them. These trucks do not turn well, and I hate tic-tacking. Would removing the bottom washer, thus pulling the WB in, and running indy conical bushings help with deeper smoother turns? Or is it just a characteristic of these trucks and I have to accept that I will give these away at the park?
Definitely try combinations of this and that if you are already at the point where you just don't want to deal with them any other way.
Removing the bottom washer will make them looser to a degree, but the interesting thing with other trucks like Ace is that with the taller bottom bushing, the trucks turn a whole lot more, so you could even try a taller bottom bushing / lower top bushing combo, or add an extra washer underneath and see how that feels too.
When I did it to other brand trucks, I was surprised that they felt way more turny without going straight to wheelbite, but that was just me. I had cut off a single mm of top bushing, then put the cut off bit under the hanger with the bottom bushing and it made the biggest difference to how the trucks turned and reacted.
A fun thing to do at least.
Edit:
I think it’s a mix of fresh trucks and QC with venture. Currently have ventures on my board and they turn great, but they were pretty stiff when new. Waxed where the bushings go and the pivot cups, bombed hills and did slappys and they’re super smooth.
Also had a pair that was loose out of the gate and stayed smooth.
I don’t think the green bushings, or flat washers or any of that is necessary to get them feeling good.
Yes the wax between all bushings, washers, etc really does "loosen" everything up a lot when I tried it too.
Sometimes that is all that could be needed to go from feeling too stiff to having a whole lot more turn from the exact same trucks and not changing anything out on them.