Venture 2020

[theloniousmonk]

It sounds crazy, but if these came out you could use the  long wheelbase on the nose and the smaller option on the tail, To give a longer tail.
Or vice versa, for a longer nose.
It almost seems like too many options to people who don’t pay too close attention to this stuff, but I would love it. It would open up a lot of decks

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for me, ventures work with everything deck wise, to the extent that if a board feels off to me, then i know it’s just the board. as opposed to ace, where i need all
of the stars to align.
so the dbl drilled baseplates wouldn’t be about different decks, but just trying out the different angles for pop.

what is the smallest change possible, i wonder?
with decks that chem-tool recommended something like 3/8, but that’s waaaaay too much.

[Mbrimson88]

It sounds crazy, but if these came out you could use the  long wheelbase on the nose and the smaller option on the tail, To give a longer tail.
Or vice versa, for a longer nose.
It almost seems like too many options to people who don’t pay too close attention to this stuff, but I would love it. It would open up a lot of decks

for me, ventures work with everything deck wise, to the extent that if a board feels off to me, then i know it’s just the board. as opposed to ace, where i need all
of the stars to align.
so the dbl drilled baseplates wouldn’t be about different decks, but just trying out the different angles for pop.

what is the smallest change possible, i wonder?
with decks that chem-tool recommended something like 3/8, but that’s waaaaay too much.

The Chem tool had two options, firstly the 3/8" apart for one version and then 1/4" apart for another, so in metal 1/4" might work well, or even just setting it up for yourself with a market pen and looking at it to see what might look ok.

The other old trucks of any variety and current wider Indy six hole baseplates are 3/8" apart, so when trying that option it definitely made the kicks feel a lot more comfortable for me, so yes you could do one, or the other, or both.

I wonder if the Fuckwithyourtrucks guy has any experience redrilling baseplates.  Anyone tried recently?

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It sounds crazy, but if these came out you could use the  long wheelbase on the nose and the smaller option on the tail, To give a longer tail.
Or vice versa, for a longer nose.
It almost seems like too many options to people who don’t pay too close attention to this stuff, but I would love it. It would open up a lot of decks

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for me, ventures work with everything deck wise, to the extent that if a board feels off to me, then i know it’s just the board. as opposed to ace, where i need all
of the stars to align.
so the dbl drilled baseplates wouldn’t be about different decks, but just trying out the different angles for pop.

what is the smallest change possible, i wonder?
with decks that chem-tool recommended something like 3/8, but that’s waaaaay too much.

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The Chem tool had two options, firstly the 3/8" apart for one version and then 1/4" apart for another, so in metal 1/4" might work well, or even just setting it up for yourself with a market pen and looking at it to see what might look ok.

The other old trucks of any variety and current wider Indy six hole baseplates are 3/8" apart, so when trying that option it definitely made the kicks feel a lot more comfortable for me, so yes you could do one, or the other, or both.

I wonder if the Fuckwithyourtrucks guy has any experience redrilling baseplates.  Anyone tried recently?

thanks for info
i haven’t tried, but now very curious.
surprised that a 3/8 modification provided decent results!

[munchbox]

double drilled baseplate for the tail doesnt sound half bad
definitely unnecessary but would be interesting

[Mbrimson88]

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It sounds crazy, but if these came out you could use the  long wheelbase on the nose and the smaller option on the tail, To give a longer tail.
Or vice versa, for a longer nose.
It almost seems like too many options to people who don’t pay too close attention to this stuff, but I would love it. It would open up a lot of decks

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for me, ventures work with everything deck wise, to the extent that if a board feels off to me, then i know it’s just the board. as opposed to ace, where i need all
of the stars to align.
so the dbl drilled baseplates wouldn’t be about different decks, but just trying out the different angles for pop.

what is the smallest change possible, i wonder?
with decks that chem-tool recommended something like 3/8, but that’s waaaaay too much.

[close]

The Chem tool had two options, firstly the 3/8" apart for one version and then 1/4" apart for another, so in metal 1/4" might work well, or even just setting it up for yourself with a market pen and looking at it to see what might look ok.

The other old trucks of any variety and current wider Indy six hole baseplates are 3/8" apart, so when trying that option it definitely made the kicks feel a lot more comfortable for me, so yes you could do one, or the other, or both.

I wonder if the Fuckwithyourtrucks guy has any experience redrilling baseplates.  Anyone tried recently?

[close]

thanks for info
i haven’t tried, but now very curious.
surprised that a 3/8 modification provided decent results!

Not a direct comparison, but moving the usual Venture truck in 3/8" on the tail on some boards can make it way too light, so it just doesn't work, but on others it made it feel more like where Ace truck axles sit, so for some it might be too light and tippy for what they are used to, but for others, it might open up a whole lot more for them in terms of longer wheelbase boards that didn't work so well before.

I guess that is the difference between drilling baseplates once, or drilling multiple boards over and over to move trucks to where you want them to sit, for people like Koston who wanted to ride Ventures but didn't want to have such a long wheelbase and didn't have the boards made for him like Chico or some others did - everything 14" wb on all his boards wasn't it?


* There are a bunch of moderately used current model Venture trucks sitting around here, so I might just have to test it and drill out a baseplate 1/4" and see how that works.  Who knows, it might feel so good I will ride Ventures now...

[munchbox]

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It sounds crazy, but if these came out you could use the  long wheelbase on the nose and the smaller option on the tail, To give a longer tail.
Or vice versa, for a longer nose.
It almost seems like too many options to people who don’t pay too close attention to this stuff, but I would love it. It would open up a lot of decks

[close]

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for me, ventures work with everything deck wise, to the extent that if a board feels off to me, then i know it’s just the board. as opposed to ace, where i need all
of the stars to align.
so the dbl drilled baseplates wouldn’t be about different decks, but just trying out the different angles for pop.

what is the smallest change possible, i wonder?
with decks that chem-tool recommended something like 3/8, but that’s waaaaay too much.

[close]

The Chem tool had two options, firstly the 3/8" apart for one version and then 1/4" apart for another, so in metal 1/4" might work well, or even just setting it up for yourself with a market pen and looking at it to see what might look ok.

The other old trucks of any variety and current wider Indy six hole baseplates are 3/8" apart, so when trying that option it definitely made the kicks feel a lot more comfortable for me, so yes you could do one, or the other, or both.

I wonder if the Fuckwithyourtrucks guy has any experience redrilling baseplates.  Anyone tried recently?

[close]

thanks for info
i haven’t tried, but now very curious.
surprised that a 3/8 modification provided decent results!

[close]

Not a direct comparison, but moving the usual Venture truck in 3/8" on the tail on some boards can make it way too light, so it just doesn't work, but on others it made it feel more like where Ace truck axles sit, so for some it might be too light and tippy for what they are used to, but for others, it might open up a whole lot more for them in terms of longer wheelbase boards that didn't work so well before.

I guess that is the difference between drilling baseplates once, or drilling multiple boards over and over to move trucks to where you want them to sit, for people like Koston who wanted to ride Ventures but didn't want to have such a long wheelbase and didn't have the boards made for him like Chico or some others did - everything 14" wb on all his boards wasn't it?


* There are a bunch of moderately used current model Venture trucks sitting around here, so I might just have to test it and drill out a baseplate 1/4" and see how that works.  Who knows, it might feel so good I will ride Ventures now...

a quarter inch sounds ideal
you have any forged plates sitting around?
id pay to give it a spin

[Xen]

I think I'd just collapse and give up if I had double drilled plates; madness overload.

[Mbrimson88]

a quarter inch sounds ideal
you have any forged plates sitting around?
id pay to give it a spin

The funny thing is the forged plates are harder to get and more popular, so besides the distance and cost to get them there, from Australia to USA, I don't have any to spare, only a lot of normal cast Venture baseplates, then mostly 5.6 hangers, but some 5.8 and 6.1 as well.

I wonder if anyone has asked DLX about the Venture baseplates and if anyone has any thoughts on drilling them out.  I have never tried, but I am guessing it is not too hard, given the right tools and a good eye, not to mess up the bolt holes.


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* I cut up or drill out wood every other day, mess with kingpins and reshape wheels, but just never really felt the need to drill out baseplates (until now) so although I have a drill and a metal bit in 5mm, I am still a little apprehensive.

[GBLange]

Or get those fake venture on aliexpress and experiment on em..

[rocklobster]

Or get those fake venture on aliexpress and experiment on em..

A friend bought a pair and tried them out, zero turn on them while being overly glossy to the point of being an obvious fake. Didn't think it would be that hard to replicate trucks since China and 2Hex reuse the Indy Stage XI mold for their OEM brands.

[richard00800]

venture low talks, interesting

[rocklobster]

venture low talks, interesting

Much better video than the Crob one, 2 gear nerds talking fractions of inches and obsessing about griptape is what I'm here for. The industry's fallen out of love with Sewa but you can't deny his flatground skills.

[Xen]

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venture low talks, interesting

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Much better video than the Crob one, 2 gear nerds talking fractions of inches and obsessing about griptape is what I'm here for. The industry's fallen out of love with Sewa but you can't deny his flatground skills.

For sure better (Crob makes me cringe) tho Ben could have not talked over Sewa so much at times. His board dims are super interesting/odd yet make sense given his height; dude's got such good pop and control, shame he hasn't landed anywhere.

[rikki]

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venture low talks, interesting

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Much better video than the Crob one, 2 gear nerds talking fractions of inches and obsessing about griptape is what I'm here for. The industry's fallen out of love with Sewa but you can't deny his flatground skills.

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For sure better (Crob makes me cringe) tho Ben could have not talked over Sewa so much at times. His board dims are super interesting/odd yet make sense given his height; dude's got such good pop and control, shame he hasn't landed anywhere.

Noticed this as well. I mean, let the person you're interviewing talk and don't butt in with your own opinions/jokes/rhetorical landfill all the time. Especially when the guy being interviewed is just about to say something meaningful. I'm not interested about Ben's personal concave preferences when the subject matter is an interesting pro skater.

De Gros is awesome, but the L.A. sunshine might've have given him an unnecessary boost here.

[Sungam]

venture low talks, interesting

Really makes me want to try the low version now, found some with gold hardware but haven't pulled the trigger haha.

[munchbox]

lo is so damn good, they had me running 5.2 lo with a 8.5
bigger sizes is the dream

[Mbrimson88]

lo is so damn good, they had me running 5.2 lo with a 8.5
bigger sizes is the dream

I wonder if anyone could ever trim down a regular set of 6.1s the same way that others have trimmed down some other trucks, eg shortened the axle lengths on Indy 215s and reduced hanger wings and the like.  It would be way harder to do, but I imagine someone out there could do it, just reshape some taller hangers down to lower height hangers.

Comparing both a regular and a low truck hanger, I could see it working easily enough, but I am not at all skilled enough to attempt it.


Over the years I have seen people who blew out pivot cups and have been skating metal on metal for a bit and it grinded down the hanger nub enough to change the truck height.  Just taking down the pivot point on the hanger nub would be part way there, but shaving some off the wings as well would be needed I think.

Leave it at that for now, but it could be done.

[FatGuy92]

venture low talks, interesting

around 7:14, Sewa starts talking about how he only skates Ventures pre 2011. does anyone know what the actual difference is between the old and new ones? i got back into skating like 6 years ago and had no clue the geo changed during that time.

[TomCruz]

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venture low talks, interesting

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around 7:14, Sewa starts talking about how he only skates Ventures pre 2011. does anyone know what the actual difference is between the old and new ones? i got back into skating like 6 years ago and had no clue the geo changed during that time.

The old Ventures have less wobble to them, which I preferred.  They also turned slightly less.  I could never get used to the latest version, they just have a different feel.

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around 7:14, Sewa starts talking about how he only skates Ventures pre 2011. does anyone know what the actual difference is between the old and new ones? i got back into skating like 6 years ago and had no clue the geo changed during that time.

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The old Ventures have less wobble to them, which I preferred.  They also turned slightly less.  I could never get used to the latest version, they just have a different feel.

most of us venture folks skated the lo’s, or that’s how it felt.
there were two ‘old heads’ (both younger than me, but actually good at skating), that skated venture hi’s, exclusively, both on them from the very early 2000s. both switched around the time of the dlx acquisition. only one of them mentioned the dlx geo being different. he switched to 139s i think. the other guy (super super good) switched to ace, but i think that may have something to do with old industry connections.
aaaaaaaaaaanyways, i thought him liking the old ones was rad.

his treflips are really unique. i can’t think of someone else that does them like that. they are like a flatter, much higher daewon 360 flip. sorta (not really).
lots of flatground pop, which i love.

i really liked Ben’s last two videos. he and sewa did stumble over one another a bit, and Ben did over speak him too much. but overall mr degros has a really easy style and it works.

[notinternetfamous]

all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels

[rocklobster]

Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

[In A Jar]

Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

Seriously sucks. Instead we get shorter bushing "loose" trucks as they try to be Ace.  But at least Ace makes lows in big sizes. 

[iw0]

Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

if i keep telling myself they are coming, then they are coming

[Stanley Spadowski]

all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels

Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels

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all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels

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Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels

you’ll be able to turn, but not superfluously. all of that safety hands extra shit is out. pant leg sag checks, pager checks, that’s in.

[munchbox]

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all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels

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Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels

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you’ll be able to turn, but not superfluously. all of that safety hands extra shit is out. pant leg sag checks, pager checks, that’s in.

chandler burton is on the team

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all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels

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Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels

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you’ll be able to turn, but not superfluously. all of that safety hands extra shit is out. pant leg sag checks, pager checks, that’s in.

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chandler burton is on the team

great fuckin point, and i love that, for them.

but venture lo’s are a different story.

[flocke]

Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

i dont know how many comments, dm's they need till they make them