rothdigger, hope you don't mind the question, but i purchased a pair of obsidian blue 868s and i went half a size up from my usual but they are really tight, is that still the old fit? they might be too small after all... cool shoe tho, would definetly get em in my size, he he. they are pretty comfy when i just wear them, like when i'm sitting, but after about a mile of walking in them i actually get a nasty pain in the sides of both feet. like when the shoe flexes it clamps the sides... hope they still widen a bit, so far they are still too tight to skate. are they actually safe to throw in the microwave? i haven't tried that yet...