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Title: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: alraunen on January 29, 2021, 10:36:32 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKo5miQMDIk/?igshid=jj563vte7c4y

Pro AF, video part coming next week on thrasher!
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Frontside Slappy on January 29, 2021, 10:47:35 AM
Stoked for him! Dude looks like he has the most fun on his board, looking forward to the part next week!
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Post by: Ms. Tamzarian on January 29, 2021, 10:50:08 AM
Damn you know one day skaters will follow COVID precautions but until then

pro as fuck i guess
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Post by: Pete on January 29, 2021, 11:08:39 AM
who is this guy someone post a part i like that nickname.




free max b
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Post by: KillDayoy on January 29, 2021, 11:37:20 AM
So stoked for him! Most fun dude to watch, can't wait to cop both of those boards!
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Post by: breezer on January 29, 2021, 11:45:32 AM
congrats to dead Dave!! I might even buy his board
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: rejectpaul on January 29, 2021, 12:30:06 PM
Well deserved and a good edition to the Heroin squad! Glad Fos have a UK head a board, his shape looks interesting in a good way too

Funeral Part
https://youtu.be/cGhKRSNIcSQ

Heroin - Earth Goblin
https://youtu.be/m091yGSi--Q

Ravenous part
https://youtu.be/80Wbhzwjd5I

Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Some dude on January 29, 2021, 12:32:26 PM
Damn you know one day skaters will follow COVID precautions but until then

pro as fuck i guess

cool virtue signaling
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Post by: Croquet temper on January 29, 2021, 01:20:01 PM
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Damn you know one day skaters will follow COVID precautions but until then

pro as fuck i guess
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cool virtue signaling

That’s not virtue signaling, though.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Dorje Drolo on January 29, 2021, 01:22:11 PM
Rad to hear. Dude is fun to watch with cool trick selection. I back it.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: thespacewolf on January 29, 2021, 02:25:40 PM
Turning pro for one company, whilst repping and riding another company.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Alois Hitler Jr. on January 29, 2021, 02:34:42 PM
Turning pro for one company, whilst repping and riding another company.

Death Dave
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Post by: rosemaryBB on January 29, 2021, 03:50:15 PM
Turning pro for one company, whilst repping and riding another company.

The dude with the Death gear isn't Dead Dave (ironic I know) - still weird that homie chose to hold up his own skateboard and stand in the middle in this pic.

Still - Dead Dave is the best, super fun to watch always, and last year's No Ollie Skater of the Year (NOSOTY)
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: kimura on January 29, 2021, 05:40:49 PM
I love watching him skate. Totally unique style and in his own world. I love it. Pretty sure the top deck I posted here is the Mutant shape.



(https://i.ibb.co/QYWh49D/Heroin-Skateboards-Dead-Dave-Dead-Dave-Lives-Mutant-Shaped-Skateboard-Deck-10-00-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9yxB7nZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/FVzNbYW/Heroin-Skateboards-Dead-Dave-Lives-Double-Shovel-Skateboard-Deck-9-00-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BNBdV6P)
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: lk130 on January 29, 2021, 06:04:28 PM
What in the Covid
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Post by: BAGHEAD CREW on January 29, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Dead Dave rips and is the nicest human ever  ;D
Really happy for him

Xoxo
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: jay_nev on January 29, 2021, 06:30:46 PM
I love watching him skate. Totally unique style and in his own world. I love it. Pretty sure the top deck I posted here is the Mutant shape.



(https://i.ibb.co/QYWh49D/Heroin-Skateboards-Dead-Dave-Dead-Dave-Lives-Mutant-Shaped-Skateboard-Deck-10-00-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9yxB7nZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/FVzNbYW/Heroin-Skateboards-Dead-Dave-Lives-Double-Shovel-Skateboard-Deck-9-00-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BNBdV6P)
yep 10” mutant shape and 9” double shovel. I their boards and Fos so I support
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on January 29, 2021, 06:34:21 PM
Sports
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: fulfillthedream on January 29, 2021, 08:08:26 PM
heroine is dope
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Watson on January 29, 2021, 08:24:08 PM
Much better news than "Pro Dave is dead"!
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Eric Dolphy on January 29, 2021, 08:26:11 PM
heroine is dope
I would be 500% more likely to cop a board if FOS added an "e" to the end. That 9" double shovel looks dreamy
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Lou Strux on January 29, 2021, 10:34:20 PM
Dude’s skating makes me want to grab my board & head outside every time I watch one of his parts.
Nuttiness in the best possible way.
Excellent call on your part, @darkthrone.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Nicki on January 29, 2021, 10:38:00 PM
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heroine is dope
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I would be 500% more likely to cop a board if FOS added an "e" to the end. That 9" double shovel looks dreamy

+1 100% agree. I would never ever purchase any product by this brand, completely because of it’s name. It’s bizarre to me that of all the reconsiders/name change/logo change, this upsetting, tone deaf and really insensitive name just coasts along in skating. More bizarre with the lives lost/ruined by hard drugs in the skating community. Not funny, not cool, not edgy. Fuck heroin.

Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: IanBZHD on January 29, 2021, 10:48:44 PM
I think he might be one of those genuine weirdos, not one of them fake weirdos... I dig it.
Sports
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Allen. on January 29, 2021, 10:51:29 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcJNsoY50E
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: bob george on January 29, 2021, 10:53:04 PM
i feel like story is that heroin is named as such as a reference to Fos' straight edge-ness and skateboarding being his heroin/drug of choice. not that anyone could tell that by just seeing the word in the wild. i used to work in a skate shop and had a lot of older people come in flipping out, sometimes tearing up about seeing the word heroin out the front. it can make for some awkward situations - i was also once pulled over by the police because of the heroin sticker on my car. they wanted me to take it off and searched my car for drugs - pretty bizarre if i sold heroin out of my car and had a heroin sticker to advertise the fact. i didn't take the sticker off but the car blew up a week later. i would not put a heroin sticker on my car again...

dead dave is cool. he feels like a more prolific craig questions.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Lou Strux on January 29, 2021, 10:58:16 PM
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heroine is dope
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I would be 500% more likely to cop a board if FOS added an "e" to the end. That 9" double shovel looks dreamy
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+1 100% agree. I would never ever purchase any product by this brand, completely because of it’s name. It’s bizarre to me that of all the reconsiders/name change/logo change, this upsetting, tone deaf and really insensitive name just coasts along in skating. More bizarre with the lives lost/ruined by hard drugs in the skating community. Not funny, not cool, not edgy. Fuck heroin.
And here I was thinking it was merely a reference to the addictive nature of skating to people like us (may I include you in this?)
I never actually took it as an endorsement of the substance itself, but I suppose I could be wrong.
Personally, as somebody who still actively skates (such as it is) skreet at almost 50, I periodically need to explain myself to peers when I roll up on my bloard. On numerous occasions I’ve referred to skating as my personal version of heroin, in that I just can’t quit, regardless of how dangerous it may be to somebody my age. Junkies like me still need their fix, ya know?
But yeah, the drug is no joke. Pretty serious stuff, actually.
Thankfully, skateboarding isn’t.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Nicki on January 29, 2021, 11:10:26 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcJNsoY50E

Probably my all time favourite Simpsons reference. Yeah, this is totally me. It’s actually annoying really because I’d back them if they had a different name, my loss I guess, but it’s personal.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: tony mugu on January 29, 2021, 11:23:45 PM
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heroine is dope
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I would be 500% more likely to cop a board if FOS added an "e" to the end. That 9" double shovel looks dreamy
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+1 100% agree. I would never ever purchase any product by this brand, completely because of it’s name. It’s bizarre to me that of all the reconsiders/name change/logo change, this upsetting, tone deaf and really insensitive name just coasts along in skating. More bizarre with the lives lost/ruined by hard drugs in the skating community. Not funny, not cool, not edgy. Fuck heroin.

Ok
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Nicki on January 30, 2021, 02:16:37 AM
i feel like story is that heroin is named as such as a reference to Fos' straight edge-ness and skateboarding being his heroin/drug of choice. not that anyone could tell that by just seeing the word in the wild. i used to work in a skate shop and had a lot of older people come in flipping out, sometimes tearing up about seeing the word heroin out the front. it can make for some awkward situations - i was also once pulled over by the police because of the heroin sticker on my car. they wanted me to take it off and searched my car for drugs - pretty bizarre if i sold heroin out of my car and had a heroin sticker to advertise the fact. i didn't take the sticker off but the car blew up a week later. i would not put a heroin sticker on my car again...

dead dave is cool. he feels like a more prolific craig questions.

Good post.

Yeah, it is awkward. Like you say, Fos is likely using it as a metaphor, but I just can’t back the insensitivity of having an opioid plastered on my board. The stories you’ve said of people crying upset is just what I’m talking about, it’s distressing. Fentanyl Skateboards anyone? Even if it’s a metaphor? I think not.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGsQIaOsZJ0&feature=youtu.be&t=43s
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: leonthotsky on January 30, 2021, 02:30:47 AM
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i feel like story is that heroin is named as such as a reference to Fos' straight edge-ness and skateboarding being his heroin/drug of choice. not that anyone could tell that by just seeing the word in the wild. i used to work in a skate shop and had a lot of older people come in flipping out, sometimes tearing up about seeing the word heroin out the front. it can make for some awkward situations - i was also once pulled over by the police because of the heroin sticker on my car. they wanted me to take it off and searched my car for drugs - pretty bizarre if i sold heroin out of my car and had a heroin sticker to advertise the fact. i didn't take the sticker off but the car blew up a week later. i would not put a heroin sticker on my car again...

dead dave is cool. he feels like a more prolific craig questions.
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Good post.

Yeah, it is awkward. Like you say, Fos is likely using it as a metaphor, but I just can’t back the insensitivity of having an opioid plastered on my board. The stories you’ve said of people crying upset is just what I’m talking about, it’s distressing. Fentanyl Skateboards anyone? Even if it’s a metaphor? I think not.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-CcAMIB5Zw
The fact you're saying it is insensitive even if it is a metaphor is a pretty invalid argument because you are just ignoring the part where you are saying it is a metaphor lol, also you mention he is "likely using it as a metaphor" change "likely" to "actually" and you would be correct. I also assume he has named in in a punk-influenced where immediate offense would be taken from people outside the scene looking in, but I could be wrong on that. The problem with most things today is people don't look deeper into things and just instantly see red and want it to conform or disappear
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Nicki on January 30, 2021, 02:54:02 AM
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i feel like story is that heroin is named as such as a reference to Fos' straight edge-ness and skateboarding being his heroin/drug of choice. not that anyone could tell that by just seeing the word in the wild. i used to work in a skate shop and had a lot of older people come in flipping out, sometimes tearing up about seeing the word heroin out the front. it can make for some awkward situations - i was also once pulled over by the police because of the heroin sticker on my car. they wanted me to take it off and searched my car for drugs - pretty bizarre if i sold heroin out of my car and had a heroin sticker to advertise the fact. i didn't take the sticker off but the car blew up a week later. i would not put a heroin sticker on my car again...

dead dave is cool. he feels like a more prolific craig questions.
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Good post.

Yeah, it is awkward. Like you say, Fos is likely using it as a metaphor, but I just can’t back the insensitivity of having an opioid plastered on my board. The stories you’ve said of people crying upset is just what I’m talking about, it’s distressing. Fentanyl Skateboards anyone? Even if it’s a metaphor? I think not.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGsQIaOsZJ0&feature=youtu.be&t=43s

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Hey, just had to fix the YouTube link, it’s the right one now.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: MORT on January 30, 2021, 05:37:44 AM
Damn y’all make Fos give Frank Shaw the boot and now you’re going after the name of the company? CHILL
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: cky enthusiast on January 30, 2021, 05:41:39 AM
i can’t wait til slap forces a name change and then all my friends who OD’d will come back from the dead
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Panettone on January 30, 2021, 05:58:58 AM
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i feel like story is that heroin is named as such as a reference to Fos' straight edge-ness and skateboarding being his heroin/drug of choice. not that anyone could tell that by just seeing the word in the wild. i used to work in a skate shop and had a lot of older people come in flipping out, sometimes tearing up about seeing the word heroin out the front. it can make for some awkward situations - i was also once pulled over by the police because of the heroin sticker on my car. they wanted me to take it off and searched my car for drugs - pretty bizarre if i sold heroin out of my car and had a heroin sticker to advertise the fact. i didn't take the sticker off but the car blew up a week later. i would not put a heroin sticker on my car again...

dead dave is cool. he feels like a more prolific craig questions.
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Good post.

Yeah, it is awkward. Like you say, Fos is likely using it as a metaphor, but I just can’t back the insensitivity of having an opioid plastered on my board. The stories you’ve said of people crying upset is just what I’m talking about, it’s distressing. Fentanyl Skateboards anyone? Even if it’s a metaphor? I think not.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGsQIaOsZJ0&feature=youtu.be&t=43s

It must be truly upsetting going through life as sensitive as you.

And before you say it i have personally gone through a bad bad drug addiction and have many friends that have to... And lost.

But c'mon. It's clearly metaphor. It's so obvious.

Are you really shitting on the company and dead dave going pro.

Congrats Dave!
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: BAGHEAD CREW on January 30, 2021, 06:06:58 AM
Fos always stated since the beginning of Heroin that it was used as a metaphor for his own love for skateboarding. You can define plenty of things as “heroin” or “heroine”, it’s really not that deep.  8)
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: nicotinewheel on January 30, 2021, 06:24:56 AM
if they change the name of their company to multi-vitamins I will support them exclusively
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: cky enthusiast on January 30, 2021, 06:25:35 AM
3 healthy meals and a good nights rest shredboards
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: RichardBarkley on January 30, 2021, 06:35:11 AM
i can’t wait til slap forces a name change and then all my friends who OD’d will come back from the dead

Lol

Funny
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Shifty Flip on January 30, 2021, 06:36:30 AM
3 healthy meals and a good nights rest shredboards

Dead Dave now pro for 3 Hots and a Cot in Fos font.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: AssMountain on January 30, 2021, 07:54:04 AM
Kinda don't like Dead Dave. He's fucking good, but everything he films just feels deliberately weird. Craig Scott seems to be genuine in what he does, and he talks about his obsession with 80's skateboarding etc, but Dead Dave just seems off.
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Post by: cky enthusiast on January 30, 2021, 08:07:20 AM
that stockwell scene looks so cool. i was completely ignorant until i saw snelling in that adidas UK edit and was blown away- not to gas em but def doing something super orig. (i think)
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Post by: fredgallSOTY on January 30, 2021, 08:19:12 AM
as someone who has struggled with opioids before...

its really not that deep
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Post by: Eskorbut0 on January 30, 2021, 09:35:20 AM
Change the name to Pangolin skateboards
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Phosphoresence on January 30, 2021, 12:21:29 PM
He's fucking good
is he though? this type of skating is ‘different’ but not much of it seems very difficult. if the skating is different does that mean skill level does not matter?
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: theSketchLord on January 31, 2021, 09:46:52 AM
Stoked for him, his parts in Funeral and Earth Goblin were sick.
I was talking to Forde (Baghead Crew) today and he seems like a rad dude.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: nonickname on January 31, 2021, 10:19:04 AM
Sorry...I just can't back this...

Drinking Bud in Sheffield that is.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Justis on January 31, 2021, 10:20:22 AM
I love the shape and graphic if I wasn’t broke as shit I’d cop. Dave is mad fun to watch hope I can skate with these dudes one day 
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Post by: RichardBarkley on January 31, 2021, 11:11:49 AM
Sorry...I just can't back this...

Drinking Bud in Sheffield that is.

Yeah man I copped that ....

I'm Irish so pretty much the same as UK when it comes to beer.

Why on earth they drinking Bud? Literally the last thing id ever buy. I've never seen anyone drink it. Weird.
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: IUTSM on January 31, 2021, 11:32:50 AM
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i feel like story is that heroin is named as such as a reference to Fos' straight edge-ness and skateboarding being his heroin/drug of choice. not that anyone could tell that by just seeing the word in the wild. i used to work in a skate shop and had a lot of older people come in flipping out, sometimes tearing up about seeing the word heroin out the front. it can make for some awkward situations - i was also once pulled over by the police because of the heroin sticker on my car. they wanted me to take it off and searched my car for drugs - pretty bizarre if i sold heroin out of my car and had a heroin sticker to advertise the fact. i didn't take the sticker off but the car blew up a week later. i would not put a heroin sticker on my car again...

dead dave is cool. he feels like a more prolific craig questions.
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Good post.

Yeah, it is awkward. Like you say, Fos is likely using it as a metaphor, but I just can’t back the insensitivity of having an opioid plastered on my board. The stories you’ve said of people crying upset is just what I’m talking about, it’s distressing. Fentanyl Skateboards anyone? Even if it’s a metaphor? I think not.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-CcAMIB5Zw
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The fact you're saying it is insensitive even if it is a metaphor is a pretty invalid argument because you are just ignoring the part where you are saying it is a metaphor lol, also you mention he is "likely using it as a metaphor" change "likely" to "actually" and you would be correct. I also assume he has named in in a punk-influenced where immediate offense would be taken from people outside the scene looking in, but I could be wrong on that. The problem with most things today is people don't look deeper into things and just instantly see red and want it to conform or disappear

That punk rock influenced, outside looking in bit is the same argument used regarding swastikas and shit. Not saying you're necessarily wrong but I live by what Joe Strummer said in 1999 punk rock means EXEMPLARY MANNERS TO YOUR FELLOW HUMAN BEING. Fuck being an asshole, what you pricks thought it was twenty years ago. In all subsets of skateboarding we've got a bunch of active users, people in recovery, and a whole ton of fallen skaters due to dope/opioids and folks bringing this up has absolutely nothing to do with not wanting to look deeper, because believe me, we're all feeling deep pain.

With that, dude seems like he's having fun and is doing tricks that I'm not going to try, but after watching 3 clips, I feel like I'm watching 80s videos and I'd rather not. dude seems to be good though and can rip
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: BAGHEAD CREW on January 31, 2021, 04:33:47 PM
Stoked for him, his parts in Funeral and Earth Goblin were sick.
I was talking to Forde (Baghead Crew) today and he seems like a rad dude.

🥰🥰🥰🥰 :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: doublesteveburger on January 31, 2021, 07:00:50 PM
alive steve is stoked
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: alraunen on February 01, 2021, 10:12:14 AM
https://youtu.be/q6JVJtvop9g

Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Dwyck on February 01, 2021, 10:55:12 AM
Damn you know one day skaters will follow COVID precautions but until then

pro as fuck i guess

Are english people still on lockdown or something
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: rosemaryBB on February 01, 2021, 12:10:29 PM
Kinda don't like Dead Dave. He's fucking good, but everything he films just feels deliberately weird. Craig Scott seems to be genuine in what he does, and he talks about his obsession with 80's skateboarding etc, but Dead Dave just seems off.

Dead Dave is the same - if you go back on his insta a bit he has mad posts honoring the 80's skaters he's been inspired by. He's a big fan of Tim Jackson which got me extra stoked on him because I've always loved Tim Jackson and considered his part in Risk It one of my favorite 80's parts
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Lowcalcium on February 01, 2021, 02:26:50 PM
If Dead Dave was on REAL it would take exactly 85 years for him to turn Pro....facts

Great work turning him Pro Fos...the dude is so fun to watch skate
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: chrisskates808 on February 02, 2021, 11:56:49 PM
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I would be 500% more likely to cop a board if FOS added an "e" to the end. That 9" double shovel looks dreamy
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+1 100% agree. I would never ever purchase any product by this brand, completely because of it’s name. It’s bizarre to me that of all the reconsiders/name change/logo change, this upsetting, tone deaf and really insensitive name just coasts along in skating. More bizarre with the lives lost/ruined by hard drugs in the skating community. Not funny, not cool, not edgy. Fuck heroin.

I don’t have anything against them but I remembered one time in HS, I was skating a Heroin deck. When I brought my board to school, my math teacher looked at it. I felt a bit awkward but he did say “crazy name for a deck company”.
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Post by: matty_c on February 03, 2021, 01:15:58 AM
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Damn you know one day skaters will follow COVID precautions but until then

pro as fuck i guess
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Are english people still on lockdown or something

Yeah dude, I mean to little too late but it’s way better than fingers in the ear going LALALALA
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: Prostate Exam on February 03, 2021, 02:23:21 AM
Fell victim to the Mutant shape about half a year ago and I just ordered three of the Dead Dave boards.
Nicest dude I've ever met. No cool-guy shit going on at all with this guy
Title: Re: Dead Dave is pro
Post by: AssMountain on February 25, 2021, 05:37:27 AM
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Kinda don't like Dead Dave. He's fucking good, but everything he films just feels deliberately weird. Craig Scott seems to be genuine in what he does, and he talks about his obsession with 80's skateboarding etc, but Dead Dave just seems off.
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Dead Dave is the same - if you go back on his insta a bit he has mad posts honoring the 80's skaters he's been inspired by. He's a big fan of Tim Jackson which got me extra stoked on him because I've always loved Tim Jackson and considered his part in Risk It one of my favorite 80's parts

The Tim Jackson thing seems so obvious now you mention it, I'm a bit ashamed I didn't pick up on it haha. Just goes to show I need to do a bit more lurking before I go off spouting my opinion.