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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2040 on: October 23, 2021, 11:48:41 AM »
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SoCal has titaniums ya’ll
I was pleased to see the titaniums sold out on So Cal Skateshop.  Saved me from a pricey impulse buy.  I am currently skating a 5.6 hollow hangar on cast plates.  They are great. I don't need the temptation.
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how is this set up? looking to lighten the pop feel without changing the cast height.
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I’m running the the TI hangar on cast and I think it works great. Lighter but you keep the wheelbase and height of the cast plates

Yeah, I agree. I really like the cast in terms of overall wheelbase and pop. Adding the hollow hangar results in a more nimble/manageable feel as compared to the standards in my opinion. I asked venture if they have any plans of making a hollow kingpin/cast truck like the thunder team hollows and sadly they said no. I think that setup would be incredible.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2041 on: October 23, 2021, 04:42:13 PM »
venture should at least sell cast baseplates separately. i hold on to mine for dear life
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2042 on: October 26, 2021, 11:42:16 AM »
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SoCal has titaniums ya’ll
I was pleased to see the titaniums sold out on So Cal Skateshop.  Saved me from a pricey impulse buy.  I am currently skating a 5.6 hollow hangar on cast plates.  They are great. I don't need the temptation.
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how is this set up? looking to lighten the pop feel without changing the cast height.
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I’m running the the TI hangar on cast and I think it works great. Lighter but you keep the wheelbase and height of the cast plates
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Yeah, I agree. I really like the cast in terms of overall wheelbase and pop. Adding the hollow hangar results in a more nimble/manageable feel as compared to the standards in my opinion. I asked venture if they have any plans of making a hollow kingpin/cast truck like the thunder team hollows and sadly they said no. I think that setup would be incredible.

Has anyone ever been able to definitively say how hollow/forged versions of the big 3 create a longer wb over their standard/cast counterparts? If the hangars are interchangeable especially, I’m interested in what’s going on with those baseplates. I ask a truck co. a super technical question like that in their dm’s it usually elicits a vague response that doesn’t answer the question like they have no idea wtf I just said but don’t want to put more effort in. It’s also very possible there’s just a few key holders to that type of information and they’re not the ones running the Instagram accounts. If such nerds exist within truck companies I wish they’d post up in here and give us the real facts and data we crave

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2043 on: October 26, 2021, 12:38:08 PM »
not my local but im thirsty
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2044 on: October 26, 2021, 01:17:00 PM »
not my local but im thirsty


sick, i feel like it's not often we get a color baseplate with non-color hanger? but maybe i just don't notice unless it's white

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2045 on: October 26, 2021, 02:16:32 PM »
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SoCal has titaniums ya’ll
I was pleased to see the titaniums sold out on So Cal Skateshop.  Saved me from a pricey impulse buy.  I am currently skating a 5.6 hollow hangar on cast plates.  They are great. I don't need the temptation.
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how is this set up? looking to lighten the pop feel without changing the cast height.
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I’m running the the TI hangar on cast and I think it works great. Lighter but you keep the wheelbase and height of the cast plates
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Yeah, I agree. I really like the cast in terms of overall wheelbase and pop. Adding the hollow hangar results in a more nimble/manageable feel as compared to the standards in my opinion. I asked venture if they have any plans of making a hollow kingpin/cast truck like the thunder team hollows and sadly they said no. I think that setup would be incredible.
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Has anyone ever been able to definitively say how hollow/forged versions of the big 3 create a longer wb over their standard/cast counterparts? If the hangars are interchangeable especially, I’m interested in what’s going on with those baseplates. I ask a truck co. a super technical question like that in their dm’s it usually elicits a vague response that doesn’t answer the question like they have no idea wtf I just said but don’t want to put more effort in. It’s also very possible there’s just a few key holders to that type of information and they’re not the ones running the Instagram accounts. If such nerds exist within truck companies I wish they’d post up in here and give us the real facts and data we crave

Check the "wb of your trucks" thread, it is usually .1875-.25 in more.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2046 on: October 26, 2021, 06:29:05 PM »
Do Krux Downlow kingpins work with Venture High V-Light 5.8's?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2047 on: October 26, 2021, 09:22:09 PM »
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not my local but im thirsty

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sick, i feel like it's not often we get a color baseplate with non-color hanger? but maybe i just don't notice unless it's white

I used to paint mine, pull the pivot cup out, then go to town, even had like metallic blue ones, Tony Silva asked about a pair I painted seafoam green one time, always like the painted baseplate and raw hangar look
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2048 on: October 26, 2021, 11:32:19 PM »
Do Krux Downlow kingpins work with Venture High V-Light 5.8's?
Yes.  Getting the kingpin out of forged plates is a pain….

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2049 on: October 28, 2021, 07:07:13 AM »
Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2050 on: October 28, 2021, 08:13:23 AM »
Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo

IIRC, @Lloyd Braun did it and said it wasn't worth it. Also, I don't know of anyone ever getting the KP out of a forged plate...I'm sure its been done but the impression that I get is that it is extremely difficult.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2051 on: October 28, 2021, 09:14:24 AM »
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Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo
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IIRC, @Lloyd Braun did it and said it wasn't worth it. Also, I don't know of anyone ever getting the KP out of a forged plate...I'm sure its been done but the impression that I get is that it is extremely difficult.

Thanks for the patient responses...if I'm being honest I don't know the difference between forged and cast base plates. Looking it up now.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2052 on: October 28, 2021, 10:20:09 AM »
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Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo
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IIRC, @Lloyd Braun did it and said it wasn't worth it. Also, I don't know of anyone ever getting the KP out of a forged plate...I'm sure its been done but the impression that I get is that it is extremely difficult.
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Thanks for the patient responses...if I'm being honest I don't know the difference between forged and cast base plates. Looking it up now.

No worries, the forged plates are what's on the lights/hollows/titaniums. Rather than the metal for the baseplate being cast, it is forged so it can be both thinner and stronger (the hangars are always still cast). It also makes it way harder to get a kingpin out.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2053 on: October 28, 2021, 11:29:15 AM »
I know I could just dig back in this or the regular truck set-ups thread, but what are the unique traits of Venture vs the other next big truck brands? I've tried just about every other decent, or half-decent company at this point and it's got me curious what's up with these.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2054 on: October 28, 2021, 11:50:23 AM »
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Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo
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IIRC, @Lloyd Braun did it and said it wasn't worth it. Also, I don't know of anyone ever getting the KP out of a forged plate...I'm sure its been done but the impression that I get is that it is extremely difficult.

I did the conversion on thunder forged but I needed 10 kg sledge hammer to knock out the kingpin :D

I am contemplating getting 5.6s since an eternity but I am afraid of the "harder" grind because of the hanger shape some people mentioned because most ledges I skate are rather rough, chunked and have gaps/notches.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2055 on: October 28, 2021, 11:54:05 AM »
I know I could just dig back in this or the regular truck set-ups thread, but what are the unique traits of Venture vs the other next big truck brands? I've tried just about every other decent, or half-decent company at this point and it's got me curious what's up with these.

They're not Ace turn but they turn just as good, if not better, than Indy and the cast parts are still poured at ermico. Although, I will say the caveat being they need to be paired on a short wheelbase deck to acheive those results. Besides Destructo's, these are the lowest kingpins in the game and the hanger yoke sits tucked furthur back than the baseplate so these are like nearly impossible to hang up on, just stock as they are without fucking with inverted kingpins. The grind is smooth and consistent, I run them with 1/8" risers and my pop feels fine. I'm different than most who ride them for the street/tech purposes (crooked grind pinch and all that) which they will chime in. Tranny/curbs/hills, these rule. I tried going back to some Ace 55's yesterday and it just wasn't right. Feels like home now on an 8.25"-8.38" short wheelbase board with some 5.8's.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2056 on: October 28, 2021, 12:00:44 PM »
I know I could just dig back in this or the regular truck set-ups thread, but what are the unique traits of Venture vs the other next big truck brands? I've tried just about every other decent, or half-decent company at this point and it's got me curious what's up with these.

For me - since I still try tricks at my old ass age - Ventures really allow for more stable roll aways from landings, as opposed to my more squirrelly experiences with Indy's (which is pretty much the only other truck I messed with)...  Ventures also help me focus less on the pop of an ollie, and more so the follow-through of a trick.  I don't know maybe that one is too hard to explain? It's more of a feeling thing. 

Yes, Ventures turn "stiffer" or the carve is way less surfier than Indy's.  That can be a disadvantage depending how/where you skate.

But maybe this one is more important to some: Venture's slight increase in true-axle wheelbase has allowed me to mount them on boards with wheelbases ranging from 14-14.25 without much deviance in performance, making it kinda sorta my sweet spot or "goldilocks effect" of a setup.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2057 on: October 28, 2021, 12:02:32 PM »
Cheers to @logjammin - they expressed it better than I did.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2058 on: October 28, 2021, 12:05:42 PM »
Oh sorry, one more thing - I will say in my experience with grinding: you need to push more/faster to grind as good as you would with Indy's.  The cast material on the hangar of Indy's is just much more buttery for whatever reason.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2059 on: October 28, 2021, 08:30:25 PM »
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I know I could just dig back in this or the regular truck set-ups thread, but what are the unique traits of Venture vs the other next big truck brands? I've tried just about every other decent, or half-decent company at this point and it's got me curious what's up with these.
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They're not Ace turn but they turn just as good, if not better, than Indy and the cast parts are still poured at ermico. Although, I will say the caveat being they need to be paired on a short wheelbase deck to acheive those results. Besides Destructo's, these are the lowest kingpins in the game and the hanger yoke sits tucked furthur back than the baseplate so these are like nearly impossible to hang up on, just stock as they are without fucking with inverted kingpins. The grind is smooth and consistent, I run them with 1/8" risers and my pop feels fine. I'm different than most who ride them for the street/tech purposes (crooked grind pinch and all that) which they will chime in. Tranny/curbs/hills, these rule. I tried going back to some Ace 55's yesterday and it just wasn't right. Feels like home now on an 8.25"-8.38" short wheelbase board with some 5.8's.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2060 on: October 28, 2021, 10:12:05 PM »
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I know I could just dig back in this or the regular truck set-ups thread, but what are the unique traits of Venture vs the other next big truck brands? I've tried just about every other decent, or half-decent company at this point and it's got me curious what's up with these.
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They're not Ace turn but they turn just as good, if not better, than Indy and the cast parts are still poured at ermico. Although, I will say the caveat being they need to be paired on a short wheelbase deck to acheive those results. Besides Destructo's, these are the lowest kingpins in the game and the hanger yoke sits tucked furthur back than the baseplate so these are like nearly impossible to hang up on, just stock as they are without fucking with inverted kingpins. The grind is smooth and consistent, I run them with 1/8" risers and my pop feels fine. I'm different than most who ride them for the street/tech purposes (crooked grind pinch and all that) which they will chime in. Tranny/curbs/hills, these rule. I tried going back to some Ace 55's yesterday and it just wasn't right. Feels like home now on an 8.25"-8.38" short wheelbase board with some 5.8's.
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This is A++

Pinch on the Lo variants with the forged baseplate is INSANELY good, great on the regular Hi variants like the 5.6 V-Hollow but on the 5.2 it's other worldly. You know exactly where you are on the ledge and you can really sit into the grind. I would say slide beats Thunder because of the baseplate design, you can really feel the baseplate rubbing against the obstacle.

Having stayed on Ventures for my last 3 setups I can say the pop feel is definitely heft and welcome change from the limpness of Thunder. Maybe it's because I'm riding the 148 Titanium so the weight reduction is working against me.

I always overanalyze but skating Ventures is a commitment, it's not like Thunder or Indy that will pair well with 80% of deck dimensions so you have to be conscious of your deck length and wheelbase.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2061 on: October 28, 2021, 11:02:33 PM »
I broke the hollow kingpins on two of my forged plates.
Deluxe sent me new titanium ventures for my trouble!!!
I decided to try Krux DLK’s in my forged plates.
I had to drill out the broken out section and then pound out in a vise and large hammer… it wasn’t easy…..
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2062 on: October 29, 2021, 03:30:34 AM »
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Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo
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IIRC, @Lloyd Braun did it and said it wasn't worth it. Also, I don't know of anyone ever getting the KP out of a forged plate...I'm sure its been done but the impression that I get is that it is extremely difficult.
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I did the conversion on thunder forged but I needed 10 kg sledge hammer to knock out the kingpin :D

I am contemplating getting 5.6s since an eternity but I am afraid of the "harder" grind because of the hanger shape some people mentioned because most ledges I skate are rather rough, chunked and have gaps/notches.

I snapped my kingpin in my Thunder Hollow lights with the forged baseplate. For the love or anything, can not get it out!
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2063 on: October 29, 2021, 07:44:07 AM »
I have issues even getting kingpins out of some cast baseplates these days....

Re : grind on ventures.....I mainly notice it on angle iron being a bit stickier....not so much on concrete.



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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2064 on: October 29, 2021, 08:39:02 PM »
anyone try both the ace low bushings and the supercush 88s? which did you prefer?

looking to make a big boy/6.1 setup for small ny transition (3"-5") and dont want to switch to aces pop feel. hoping to learn kickflip to fakie and alley-oop backside flip this winter
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2065 on: October 30, 2021, 03:24:36 PM »
Hey guys, do you guys use 1/8 risers with 5.6 hi's for wheels over 54mm? im skating og classics rn and wanna know if I can throw away my risers cuz I was on thunder 149 before

im expecting ill need them cuz im 175pounds and venture 5.6 are only like 1mm higher than thunder 149

also, if the shop deck I bought with them ends up having a long wheelbase, what do I do to make them more surfy? can I just run them with bottom washers off without risking bushing degradation?

I also have my conical thunder bottom bushings that I shaved down like an mm or two (1 is kinda cracked). Could I put those in ventures to make them turn more "inward" to avoid wheelbite as well?

planning to try all of these strategies but wondering if anyone uses these techniques already

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2066 on: October 30, 2021, 05:48:36 PM »
I'm cursed with loving loose trucks while being heavy, 220ish. I def use 1/8" risers with regular 5.8's and have to go 52mm or the wheelbite is still kinda bad. I can run Ace's with 1/8" risers up to 56mm and get like zero wheelbite. At your weight I'd say 54mm and risers you'll be good, minimal wheelbite.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2067 on: October 30, 2021, 10:56:20 PM »
I think you're still pretty close but, my thunder team 148's vs venture 5.6's.....the thunders I had more wheelbite for sure.  Seems like the geometry makes a difference....

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2068 on: October 31, 2021, 04:24:37 PM »
I think you're still pretty close but, my thunder team 148's vs venture 5.6's.....the thunders I had more wheelbite for sure.  Seems like the geometry makes a difference....

maybe the "quick" turn of thunder is owed to the truck arcing backwards like ace then pressing down onto the deck (explains why they have a quick turn but bad wheelbite)

and ventures dont have much arc anyway so perhaps the wheelbite is a lot less noticeable... hmm I guess ill have to see

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #2069 on: November 01, 2021, 07:48:05 AM »
The ollie 5.8s is great
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