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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: TheDingus on January 27, 2022, 11:50:13 AM
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Not Levi Brown.
https://levis-skateboarding.tumblr.com/
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Weird they'd use a .tumblr url and not their own domain
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got demoted to Lee's
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got demoted to Lee's
(https://cdn.fs.grailed.com/api/file/WMgzrQeR8613ec04Q4Tk)
fuck, not again
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Weird they'd use a .tumblr url and not their own domain
quite a few companies used tumble for their blog sections back in the day. I remember Caste quality did this as well
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great question. their pants are second to none. they have cordura in them. i amassed about 50 pairs of the work pants if you are a 34x32 and want a pair hit me up. former shop worker here
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They recently closed their accounts at some skate shops with no warning. Odd.
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Yeah I loved their skate line, the quality is nuts. Bummer they're gone.
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Was good stuff. Still have a couple pairs, they were my dailies for awhile. Wish I could still get a couple pairs.
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They tried releasing edits but for some reason went far left w. the marketing, I remember seeing like one video. .They just didn't get better skaters to ride for it
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I dont like Levi's but ok boomer's suggestion of a LEE skate line is fire, LEE jeans are killer and fit so much better imo
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Their pants were very high quality, probably the best pants ever put out by Levi's who are undoubtedly the most successful pantmakers in human history..
I heard from a very legit source, that in the beginning of their skate program, or maybe even before they started, Dylan approached Levi's to either ride for them, or to work with them on their skate program. And they turned him down...
I'm going to go ahead and say 'that's what happened' to Levi's Skateboarding.. kinda fucked from the get go with those kind of decision making skills, regardless of having some of the deepest pockets out there.
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I have a couple of their work pants and carpenter pants and I wish I bought more of them, they are tough as fuck. That cordura shit really works.
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I hope Plunkett made bank.
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Over priced & probably didn't see an immediate dollar return on the investment.
They did some good DIY projects in New Zealand after a earthquake from memory
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I know Levi’s slashed a bunch of jobs in their sf headquarters but beyond that not sure. Lost a lot of money due to covid and shelved a bunch of plans company wide. Seems like they’re currently focusing on the euro side of things with Levi’s sb, maybe the offices over there have taken over
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZHurdQjsPv/?utm_medium=copy_link
Their insta is still active. Tumblr is generally dead
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do you only skate jeans if marketed as "skater jeans with a team"? because I couldn't give a fuck less if my pants have a skateboard team. Levis still makes great jeans so who cares? buy them. I would even go as far as saying buy every Levis jeans except the ones marketed as skateboarding jeans.
companies like carhartt or Levis make usually good quality clothes with strong fabrics without even having skating in mind. everyone should try to not wear a single skateboard brand ones from top to the shoes. you'll be amazed how amazing regular clothing works for skating. sometimes much better quality wise than some vulc enties and some rvca pants
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-YeEw0zbMg&feature=emb_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-YeEw0zbMg&feature=emb_title)
This came out last month, seems like they are more Euro focused and they release fairly often from what I can tell in UK shops. Great video too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFupHUkp1o&t=1826s
Charles Lamb 26 minutes in mentions he was laid off from the Levis skate program so I wouldn't be surprised if that was a ubiquitous experience for most of their staff and riders
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The guy who convinced Levi's to do a skate program and then ran it left at some point around 5 or 6 years ago. I remember after that the marketing and their drops became smaller and smaller. He started a new jeans company named 1989 or something like that, don't think it ever took off. The logo was 4 dots, spaced out like the bottom of a baseplate.
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hey at least they made that skatepark in bolivia ;D
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They went back to making cowboy jeans?
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do you only skate jeans if marketed as "skater jeans with a team"? because I couldn't give a fuck less if my pants have a skateboard team. Levis still makes great jeans so who cares? buy them. I would even go as far as saying buy every Levis jeans except the ones marketed as skateboarding jeans.
companies like carhartt or Levis make usually good quality clothes with strong fabrics without even having skating in mind. everyone should try to not wear a single skateboard brand ones from top to the shoes. you'll be amazed how amazing regular clothing works for skating. sometimes much better quality wise than some vulc enties and some rvca pants
How is this relevant. They had like a team. Their skate product provided something that you could barely find anywhere else. Seems like you're just trying to get a holier-than-thou gotcha in and missing the point entirely
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https://blacksheepskateshop.com/search?type=product&q=Levis*
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZIwzJJt4Oq/?utm_medium=copy_link
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(https://i.ibb.co/nkBv9cQ/C63-D63-A4-FBE2-4-A94-A572-9-AC7-BF97-EA41.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nkBv9cQ)
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great question. their pants are second to none. they have cordura in them. i amassed about 50 pairs of the work pants if you are a 34x32 and want a pair hit me up. former shop worker here
Hello new best friend
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Wrangler cowboy cuts with a little bit of stretch are where it's at. Those jeans rock
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Levis is one of the hardest brands to get to take advice on common sense things, it's like they want to waste the product
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If you have an insane girlfriend who's into old shit and dressing up like the 1940s look up levis LVC. They use all the old patterns from their founding through to the 70's to make reproductions of their old jeans. Only bummer is they're like $200 a pop
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do you only skate jeans if marketed as "skater jeans with a team"? because I couldn't give a fuck less if my pants have a skateboard team. Levis still makes great jeans so who cares? buy them. I would even go as far as saying buy every Levis jeans except the ones marketed as skateboarding jeans.
companies like carhartt or Levis make usually good quality clothes with strong fabrics without even having skating in mind. everyone should try to not wear a single skateboard brand ones from top to the shoes. you'll be amazed how amazing regular clothing works for skating. sometimes much better quality wise than some vulc enties and some rvca pants
How is this relevant. They had like a team. Their skate product provided something that you could barely find anywhere else. Seems like you're just trying to get a holier-than-thou gotcha in and missing the point entirely
how am I missing the point? they are gone (you could stop the thread here). and to think they provided some never before seen jeans is false and stupid. you find good fitting pants everywhere. the pants Vincent touzery wears and everyone seemed to discuss aren't skate pants they are regular Levis. just trying to inform guys to get out of your "a real skater needs skate product" cycle. bet you sleep in a big skateboard bed and get incredibly mad when some of your guys dont eat shit an sleep skateboarding. "A SKATER CANT RAP!" "A SKATER CANT BE INTRESTED IN GAY STUFF" you can do what you want and you can wear what you want. if you get anxiety over your jeans not being skate jeans you are a complete gatekeeping idiot with zero talent except playing with your hobby toy.
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I have 2 pairs of the work pants and a pair of jeans. Super nice quality, and they've been holding up really well.
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do you only skate jeans if marketed as "skater jeans with a team"? because I couldn't give a fuck less if my pants have a skateboard team. Levis still makes great jeans so who cares? buy them. I would even go as far as saying buy every Levis jeans except the ones marketed as skateboarding jeans.
companies like carhartt or Levis make usually good quality clothes with strong fabrics without even having skating in mind. everyone should try to not wear a single skateboard brand ones from top to the shoes. you'll be amazed how amazing regular clothing works for skating. sometimes much better quality wise than some vulc enties and some rvca pants
How is this relevant. They had like a team. Their skate product provided something that you could barely find anywhere else. Seems like you're just trying to get a holier-than-thou gotcha in and missing the point entirely
how am I missing the point? they are gone (you could stop the thread here). and to think they provided some never before seen jeans is false and stupid. you find good fitting pants everywhere. the pants Vincent touzery wears and everyone seemed to discuss aren't skate pants they are regular Levis. just trying to inform guys to get out of your "a real skater needs skate product" cycle. bet you sleep in a big skateboard bed and get incredibly mad when some of your guys dont eat shit an sleep skateboarding. "A SKATER CANT RAP!" "A SKATER CANT BE INTRESTED IN GAY STUFF" you can do what you want and you can wear what you want. if you get anxiety over your jeans not being skate jeans you are a complete gatekeeping idiot with zero talent except playing with your hobby toy.
Difference between Levi’s skateline and their regular jeans was that their skate jeans had some stretch on them… Just a bit more functional for skating, marketing has nothing to do with it.
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You would have to learn Japanese going-forward to process any Levis Lvc
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spandex in jeans just makes them have less longevity.
was never a fan of those spandex jeans that will rip around the penis area where both pant legs are connected.
and that happened to me all the time when ordering some pants from skate companies.
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I worked for them for a while.
The product is unmatched in quality. I've worked in skateing and apparel most of my adult life. I feel really confident in my assessment.
Biggest problem they had in my opinion is that skaters were having a hard time wanting to pay $85 for jeans at the time. Levis wanted to see way more units on the market than we were able to sell.
Kinda funny seeing as now everything with a skate team is $90 and up.
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Alright jean people. What person in SF made the first riveted jean and introduced that technology to Levi Strauss?
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Biggest problem they had in my opinion is that skaters were having a hard time wanting to pay $85 for jeans at the time. Levis wanted to see way more units on the market than we were able to sell.
That makes sense. It's probably the price and the brand not justifying the price. Levis is a credible company but it's not like "cool" to wear like some other brands. At least Levis did a lot with the skate community helping build skateparks and helping skaters travel. But it made sense it was short lived.
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Idk but I keep blowing the crotch out of all my 514's. Not even skating in them. Currently rocking the target levis Denizen brand. They are nice but don't hold their shape as well.
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Just buy 550s on eBay and call it a day
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Just buy 550s on eBay and call it a day
The superior levis. For us big booty bitches
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Seems to only be brought up when dealing with certain brands or regions-but for a company of their size, Levi's has an abysmal labor record.
They've made some progress with environmental issues but seem much less interested in doing the right thing by their workers.
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This is a real bummer to hear; I really liked the skate line. Was seeing way too much of it on clearance and was worried this was coming. Hope the same doesn’t happen to Dickies as they’re making more skate-specific stuff
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I've found a few pairs on eBay, but their skate line had a denim pleated pant that remind me of a less baggy Cee Blues pair and they're so good. I'd buy every color if they kept making them.
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Alright jean people. What person in SF made the first riveted jean and introduced that technology to Levi Strauss?
Seems obvious it was Levi Strauss, but some accounts say Jacob Davis b4
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levis athletic fit 541 seemed to hold up pretty well in skating long periods
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Alright jean people. What person in SF made the first riveted jean and introduced that technology to Levi Strauss?
Seems obvious it was Levi Strauss, but some accounts say Jacob Davis b4
Verified it was Jacob Davis. Have a gnar, my dude. Well done.
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Damn so much denim knowledge in here
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I heard from a very legit source, that in the beginning of their skate program, or maybe even before they started, Dylan approached Levi's to either ride for them, or to work with them on their skate program. And they turned him down...
I'm going to go ahead and say 'that's what happened' to Levi's Skateboarding.. kinda fucked from the get go with those kind of decision making skills, regardless of having some of the deepest pockets out there.
If this is true, then whoever made that decision must still be kicking themselves.
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not really sure but Dickies 874s are still around so I'm good
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Dickies are actually fully backed from what I've heard/seen
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Wish the skate program continued if only to see Joey Pepper keep getting paid.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-YeEw0zbMg&feature=emb_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-YeEw0zbMg&feature=emb_title)
This came out last month, seems like they are more Euro focused and they release fairly often from what I can tell in UK shops. Great video too.
Yeah - concrete river project was great output!
In Euro the have a team, you can buy at the website a „skateboarding collection“ I am not really into, and they have active insta account - with skateboarding and fashion shots with mostly „underground/ not very known“ skateboarders.
Think the keep it low key and just show that skateboarding is cool - and cool skateboarders wear Jeans from Levi’s.
There target group is the average teenager - and they want some cool skateboarding/ street style fashion pictures. You don’t need Tony Hawk for that, or some NY hypebeaest fashionista. There bread and butter is the standard 501 blue jeans anyway.
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Chiming in on a few topics here:
a) @zahed what’s good with them pants? That’s my size. Maybe we can get our own lickle rawb/mothman thing going on?
b) I happen to be wearing a pair of the skate 513 slim/straights right now & just pulled a brand spanking new pair of the same out of “cold storage” a couple days ago. They really are rather nice. So… there’s that.
3) levis athletic fit 541 seemed to hold up pretty well in skating long periods
I like the 541s: roomy up top with a nice taper so they don’t spill over the heels of my sneaks & get walked on (I hate that.) I was just reading bout the 502 which is apparently standard fit in the rump/thighs (a’la 501/505) but with a lower waist, AND a taper in the leg so… again, no heel slop. I haven’t tried any on & was wondering if any PALS have any experience w/ said fit & care to share their wear notes?
…and d) not really sure but Dickies 874s are still around so I'm good
Those will mercifully ALWAYS be around. Hopefully hosiery has as promising a future, for the sake of your sig. the Dickies skate line will only stick around so long as it is still profitable. Make no mistake, as soon as it’s not pulling its weight as a product line, it’s done-zo. Jus’ business.
Maybe grab a few extra pairs at the next sale, if those are your jam, and warehouse those fuckers.
Incidentally, I take the 894 on account of the taper, for (you guessed it) no slop.
Finally, thank you @lk130 for that piece of trivia: I was born in SF & live here now, but was somehow still unaware of that locally relevant historic note. Gracias, papi.
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Since I wear their regular pants most of the time I don’t think it would make much difference in what I buy.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/nzRbLP0J/Nike-SB-Stefan-Janoski-Hyperfeel-1-hd-1600.jpg)
Surprisingly not a Levis ad
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I wore the same 2 pair of 511, one brown cords, one bkue jeans with yellow/blue fabric for pockets, the ones that came out in like 09/10, every day until the finally blew out in 2015. Levis, at least the non-bargain basement store ones, last a long damn time. Skated em, farm work, chilled etc
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Wish the skate program continued if only to see Joey Pepper keep getting paid.
People getting paid for doing nothing is why these programs end
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Chiming in on a few topics here:
a) @zahed what’s good with them pants? That’s my size. Maybe we can get our own lickle rawb/mothman thing going on?
b) I happen to be wearing a pair of the skate 513 slim/straights right now & just pulled a brand spanking new pair of the same out of “cold storage” a couple days ago. They really are rather nice. So… there’s that.
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levis athletic fit 541 seemed to hold up pretty well in skating long periods
I like the 541s: roomy up top with a nice taper so they don’t spill over the heels of my sneaks & get walked on (I hate that.) I was just reading bout the 502 which is apparently standard fit in the rump/thighs (a’la 501/505) but with a lower waist, AND a taper in the leg so… again, no heel slop. I haven’t tried any on & was wondering if any PALS have any experience w/ said fit & care to share their wear notes?
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not really sure but Dickies 874s are still around so I'm good
Finally, thank you @lk130 for that piece of trivia: I was born in SF & live here now, but was somehow still unaware of that locally relevant historic note. Gracias, papi.
HEY, I'm the one that knew it, I was asking if any other jean heads knew!!! YOU'RE WELCOME!!!!
I hope you can smell my sarcasm, hahaha...
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I hope Plunkett made bank.
I always thought it was kind of odd that he was on Levi's and Huf at the same time.
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Chiming in on a few topics here:
a) @zahed what’s good with them pants? That’s my size. Maybe we can get our own lickle rawb/mothman thing going on?
b) I happen to be wearing a pair of the skate 513 slim/straights right now & just pulled a brand spanking new pair of the same out of “cold storage” a couple days ago. They really are rather nice. So… there’s that.
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levis athletic fit 541 seemed to hold up pretty well in skating long periods
I like the 541s: roomy up top with a nice taper so they don’t spill over the heels of my sneaks & get walked on (I hate that.) I was just reading bout the 502 which is apparently standard fit in the rump/thighs (a’la 501/505) but with a lower waist, AND a taper in the leg so… again, no heel slop. I haven’t tried any on & was wondering if any PALS have any experience w/ said fit & care to share their wear notes?
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not really sure but Dickies 874s are still around so I'm good
Those will mercifully ALWAYS be around. Hopefully hosiery has as promising a future, for the sake of your sig. the Dickies skate line will only stick around so long as it is still profitable. Make no mistake, as soon as it’s not pulling its weight as a product line, it’s done-zo. Jus’ business.
Maybe grab a few extra pairs at the next sale, if those are your jam, and warehouse those fuckers.
Incidentally, I take the 894 on account of the taper, for (you guessed it) no slop.
Finally, thank you @lk130 for that piece of trivia: I was born in SF & live here now, but was somehow still unaware of that locally relevant historic note. Gracias, papi.
May have to p33p these. I used to buy some tapered ones back in ...1993? 1994? They were the sheet. No idea what number they were or if it was some special tapered 874s? Do you still size up in the waist? (I size up 2 sizes in waist for 874s)
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great question. their pants are second to none. they have cordura in them. i amassed about 50 pairs of the work pants if you are a 34x32 and want a pair hit me up. former shop worker here
Hello new best friend
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Wrangler cowboy cuts with a little bit of stretch are where it's at. Those jeans rock
The Wranchers are actually dope to skate in (Ethan Fowler circa 2001) but goddamn they get sweaty.
Levi's used to do some really swanky media stuff back before some of the major mags bit the dust, sending journalists all over the place, no expense spared. Their heads were in the right place.
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Alright jean people. What person in SF made the first riveted jean and introduced that technology to Levi Strauss?
Wasn’t it Ben Davis? Aloha
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I know I’ve put on a few winter pounds, but I swear that Levi’s 36x30s would be a 34x32 in most other brands. Sucks as a wide hipped, short legged person because you don’t see 38x28 Levi’s very often.
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My company leases office space from Levi's at their headquarters in SF. Shame dylan never rode for them, would've been cool to see him at a photo shoot or something that they do in the alleys around the offices. They did have a bunch of layoffs due to covid, and i haven't been back to the office on a weekday since the pandemic started. I always wondered what all those dressed up millennials did for jobs, and i guess what they're doing now if they got laid off. Don't know anything about the skate program. K bye.
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I know I’ve put on a few winter pounds, but I swear that Levi’s 36x30s would be a 34x32 in most other brands. Sucks as a wide hipped, short legged person because you don’t see 38x28 Levi’s very often.
Holy shit it's like I'm reading this in a mirror.
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idk about you but skating 501s suck. when you stretch your legs with em when you skate it doesnt fully stretch and it feels like theyre gonna rip but not really. 569s are better if youre tryna skate baggy shit
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The Levi's skate program lasted a lot longer than I thought it would to be honest. Back in 2014 and again in 2016 they helped make a couple cool projects happen in our local skate scene by flying people out and donating money. I worked directly on organizing one of those projects and Levi's was really easy to work with and took a pretty hands off approach. Had some of the most fun I've ever had in my life during that project. It would have never happened without their assistance. Grateful that they helped make both of those things happen for our skate community.
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They helped west oakland park go from splintering wood to poured ‘crete.
They good in my book.
…But other homey was right: their other pants skate fine. The skate line was nice, but not necessary if you like their fits.
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Are the skate jeans they’re still selling in Europe the same quality as when this was a more global operation? They have some decent looking jeans available and they do 30x34, which isn’t very easy to find in most jeans.
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Chiming in on a few topics here:
a) @zahed what’s good with them pants? That’s my size. Maybe we can get our own lickle rawb/mothman thing going on?
b) I happen to be wearing a pair of the skate 513 slim/straights right now & just pulled a brand spanking new pair of the same out of “cold storage” a couple days ago. They really are rather nice. So… there’s that.
3) Expand Quote
levis athletic fit 541 seemed to hold up pretty well in skating long periods
I like the 541s: roomy up top with a nice taper so they don’t spill over the heels of my sneaks & get walked on (I hate that.) I was just reading bout the 502 which is apparently standard fit in the rump/thighs (a’la 501/505) but with a lower waist, AND a taper in the leg so… again, no heel slop. I haven’t tried any on & was wondering if any PALS have any experience w/ said fit & care to share their wear notes?
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not really sure but Dickies 874s are still around so I'm good
Those will mercifully ALWAYS be around. Hopefully hosiery has as promising a future, for the sake of your sig. the Dickies skate line will only stick around so long as it is still profitable. Make no mistake, as soon as it’s not pulling its weight as a product line, it’s done-zo. Jus’ business.
Maybe grab a few extra pairs at the next sale, if those are your jam, and warehouse those fuckers.
Incidentally, I take the 894 on account of the taper, for (you guessed it) no slop.
Finally, thank you @lk130 for that piece of trivia: I was born in SF & live here now, but was somehow still unaware of that locally relevant historic note. Gracias, papi.
May have to p33p these. I used to buy some tapered ones back in ...1993? 1994? They were the sheet. No idea what number they were or if it was some special tapered 874s? Do you still size up in the waist? (I size up 2 sizes in waist for 874s)
Yo boomer
874s are always tight in the waist (regs or skate line), from what I’ve found.
I’m rather wide in the hips (6’1, 220lbs, 36x32 tts) and size up (38x32) in 894s (skate line’s slim straight) for what I find to be like a tapered 874 fit.
Also, as I’ve said in the loose pants thread, 841s a size or 2 up is a nice relaxed taper fit (I like some 38x30 in the black)….
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been rocking some 511s for like 10 years, quality is very high indeed
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I know I’ve put on a few winter pounds, but I swear that Levi’s 36x30s would be a 34x32 in most other brands. Sucks as a wide hipped, short legged person because you don’t see 38x28 Levi’s very often.
I would recommend learning how to hem your own pants. It's easy, I do it just by hand-sewing and it holds up. It'll make finding pants way easier, I'm a 34x29 and all I need to find is a 34 waist and I'm good to go.
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been rocking some 511s for like 10 years, quality is very high indeed
same - not quite 10 years but the quality is great.......same for the work pants. They are still putting out new product so rumours of their demise are exaggerated.
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It’s possible skaters aren’t the tastemakers they think they are….
The 550 seems to be the Jean of choice around here….I got a pair of stay loose tapered and they are perfect…