that's kind of what i don't get. alien didn't need a 'street' alternative. alien was a collage of different styles before then, look at photosynthesis and you've got dill, ave, kalis, dyrdek and pappalardo. different music, different spots, different kinds of skaters - it worked perfectly. then they get kalis and dyrdek over to seek. for what? was the weakest move and hurt the alien aesthetic for a while. seek was tacky and nondescript. dgk is a proper home for kalis, seek's aesthetic just refused to embrace the market it seemed to be targeting.