why can't anyone who is pro vaccine admit the vaccine isn't as effective as originally promised? That right now being unvaccinated I can still get and spread covid but that would remain the same if I was vaccinated.
This is just patently false, or at least disingenuous because you're implying that the risk is the same.
In August, 0.88% of unvaccinated people contracted Covid, while 0.13% of vaccinated people contracted Covid which shows
85% efficacy. People who were unvaccinated were
6.8 times as likely to contract Covid. Even going with the most recent numbers from October of 0.45% and 0.09%, that's still
5 times as likely and
80% efficacy.
Why don't we look at deaths too? In August, 0.018% of unvaccinated people who got Covid died, while only 0.001% of vaccinated people who got Covid died, meaning that your risk of dying was
18 times higher, and funnily enough that shows a
95% efficacy. Most recent numbers? 0.007% and 0.0006%, meaning a
9 times higher risk and an
efficacy of 93%.
You can only spread the virus if you actually get sick, so a lower likelihood of getting sick means you're less likely to spread the virus, yeah? Also, you can only spread the virus for about half the time you're sick, yeah? So if you have less severe symptoms, you're less likely to cough to spread it, and if your time that you're sick is cut in half, which is the current trend, then your time that you're contagious is cut in half, yeah?
All of that means that you're far
far less likely to spread the virus to other people if you're vaccinated, because you're less likely to contract it, and if you do the milder symptoms and shorter window means you're still less likely to spread the virus.
If you're more likely to spread the virus, that means more people will get infected, meaning the virus is more likely to mutate and create new strains, which will in turn infect more people, right? So you
absolutely are killing people by refusing to get vaccinated if you're fully able to be vaccinated, because they have been shown to be extremely safe.
I’ve already had covid and recovered and it was an incredibly mild experience. Some sniffling, a bit of sore throat and lethargy for two weeks, and that was it...
...I have never seen anything pushed harder by the media, and the fact that Pfizer sponsors so many of the news programs gives me serious cause for concern.
My experience was the same except I also lost smell. You and I are extremely lucky. I have had friends who were perfectly healthy and wound up in the hospital on a ventilator. It's a complete crapshoot how you'll react to the virus.
As for the media pushing the vaccine hard, it's because if we don't vaccinate then the virus will mutate and more people will die. That's how Delta and Omicron came about like I mentioned in PMs. Vaccines have been pushed hard in the past, like inoculations for smallpox and the polio vaccine. It's actually a pretty standard response for vaccines to be pushed hard during an epidemic/pandemic because they're the only way to truly deal with the illness. This is just the first pandemic of this scale to exist in a society where media is so prevalent.
Anyway we're at a point now where at least the anti-vax crowd can get some pills or infusions or whatever should they end up getting really sick.
I think this is a really bad take, because without being vaccinated they are still more likely to spread it and lead to mutations that could be harder to defend against or could be less survivable. People who can get vaccinated still should.