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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on July 01, 2018, 07:08:10 AM
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https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/07/01/health/lgbtq-skateboarding-trnd/index.html
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All of my posts on here thus far have been flippant and bullshitty, but I really hope I've never made anybody feel unwelcome at the skate park, for whatever reason.
...Except messy junkies and thieves, they can still get fucked.
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Some guy is falling off his board and I'm assuming "accidentally" grabs for her bra strap and this is a sign of aggression? Did I miss something in that opening gambit?
Also can we clarify if Jarret Berry ever went pro or not. Ed Templeton referred to him as a "marginal pro" so I'm assuming he did.
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Some guy is falling off his board and I'm assuming "accidentally" grabs for her bra strap and this is a sign of aggression? Did I miss something in that opening gambit?
Also can we clarify if Jarret Berry ever went pro or not. Ed Templeton referred to him as a "marginal pro" so I'm assuming he did.
He was pro for a second tier company, I think that's what Ed meant he just said it poorly, I saw him skate at one of The Texas Skate Jam events and the dude was really good, he has some clips in H Street Lick and Evol Back in Black and he was good as most of your mid to upper level arms at the time. He has weird interview somewhere and says he was a pretty shitty drug addict, guessing that with being semi openly gay will relagate you to small regional company.
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
Is this some contrived reparations shit?
I'm sorry for something I didn't do, I lynched somebody, but I don't know who. You blame me for slavery 200 years before I was born.
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
Is this some contrived reparations shit?
I'm sorry for something I didn't do, I lynched somebody, but I don't know who. You blame me for slavery 200 years before I was born.
Not to provoke anything or come off as aggressive, but you do realize that it goes beyond just slavery, right? Jim Crowe era laws that still are in affect today on top of institutionalized racism and taught prejudice are pretty huge factors.
Don’t sit there and ask why you’re being “victimized.” Ask how you can help make society better for all humans.
Also, I know someone is going to try to pull some “quit the hippy bullshit” type of talk. You just don’t know how to be empathetic.
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Not sure if he qualifies for the af......
Pro nonetheless.....
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As a gay man, I feel as though this Instagram post is a little misguided.
"Cis dude" also includes gay men, so they should have been more specific if they meant straight dudes. If they did mean to include gay men in "cis dude" then it's hurtful because it's as if cis gay men aren't "queer enough" to attend.
An event like their's would seem to be about inclusion but there is a vibe of exclusivity especially when there is a check list you have to meet if you're not part of the lgbt family.
I 100% understand someone's deep seeded anger and frustration towards a group of people who have privileges that you feel you've been denied. I just think they should have been more tactful when making sure that those who attend are respectful.
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
Is this some contrived reparations shit?
I'm sorry for something I didn't do, I lynched somebody, but I don't know who. You blame me for slavery 200 years before I was born.
Don’t sit there and ask why you’re being “victimized.” Ask how you can help make society better for all humans.
Also, I know someone is going to try to pull some “quit the hippy bullshit” type of talk. You just don’t know how to be empathetic.
I'm not trying to play the victim, it's just when people have their hands out asking for money (or are telling me to give them money) I gotta ask questions. Do you really think I owe black people money, or that they deserve the money I have because of the effects of racism that's been around for hundreds of years? Money at best would be treating the symptom, not the sickness. If they can't find some shit job (which is the only type of job I've ever worked) to make a living then that's on them. They can shovel shit, I've shoveled my fair share of it.
"Pay black women for their time". What the fuck does that even mean?
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
Is this some contrived reparations shit?
I'm sorry for something I didn't do, I lynched somebody, but I don't know who. You blame me for slavery 200 years before I was born.
Don’t sit there and ask why you’re being “victimized.” Ask how you can help make society better for all humans.
Also, I know someone is going to try to pull some “quit the hippy bullshit” type of talk. You just don’t know how to be empathetic.
I'm not trying to play the victim, it's just when people have their hands out asking for money (or are telling me to give them money) I gotta ask questions. Do you really think I owe black people money, or that they deserve the money I have because of the effects of racism that's been around for hundreds of years? Money at best would be treating the symptom, not the sickness. If they can't find some shit job (which is the only type of job I've ever worked) to make a living then that's on them. They can shovel shit, I've shoveled my fair share of it.
"Pay black women for their time". What the fuck does that even mean?
Holy shit you're dense.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/10/today-isnt-equal-pay-day-for-black-latina-or-native-american-women.html
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How are you going to turn away fellow skaters from a publically owned and funded park? Ridiculous. You don't owe anybody anything more than common courtesy in this world.
In all my 20+ years of skateboarding, I've only had one really shitty experience. A high school kid who used to skate but piled out showed up all messed up and trying to start a fight. He grabbed my hair and dry humped me, I pushed him off. He walked over to the bowl. A crowd surrounded him, he threw a nearby lap dog yelling "get 'em!". The dog did not "get" anyone" He ended up beat pretty bad, blood all over his face. He exited the park to punch parked cars.
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
Is this some contrived reparations shit?
I'm sorry for something I didn't do, I lynched somebody, but I don't know who. You blame me for slavery 200 years before I was born.
Don’t sit there and ask why you’re being “victimized.” Ask how you can help make society better for all humans.
Also, I know someone is going to try to pull some “quit the hippy bullshit” type of talk. You just don’t know how to be empathetic.
I'm not trying to play the victim, it's just when people have their hands out asking for money (or are telling me to give them money) I gotta ask questions. Do you really think I owe black people money, or that they deserve the money I have because of the effects of racism that's been around for hundreds of years? Money at best would be treating the symptom, not the sickness. If they can't find some shit job (which is the only type of job I've ever worked) to make a living then that's on them. They can shovel shit, I've shoveled my fair share of it.
"Pay black women for their time". What the fuck does that even mean?
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/10/today-isnt-equal-pay-day-for-black-latina-or-native-american-women.html
If this guy is dense i must be made of bricks
I had to google cis male .
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just here to comment on the fact gentle jones sig is a clip of himself
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Stop the hippy bullshit.
Stop empathy.
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
Is this some contrived reparations shit?
I'm sorry for something I didn't do, I lynched somebody, but I don't know who. You blame me for slavery 200 years before I was born.
Don’t sit there and ask why you’re being “victimized.” Ask how you can help make society better for all humans.
Also, I know someone is going to try to pull some “quit the hippy bullshit” type of talk. You just don’t know how to be empathetic.
I'm not trying to play the victim, it's just when people have their hands out asking for money (or are telling me to give them money) I gotta ask questions. Do you really think I owe black people money, or that they deserve the money I have because of the effects of racism that's been around for hundreds of years? Money at best would be treating the symptom, not the sickness. If they can't find some shit job (which is the only type of job I've ever worked) to make a living then that's on them. They can shovel shit, I've shoveled my fair share of it.
"Pay black women for their time". What the fuck does that even mean?
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/10/today-isnt-equal-pay-day-for-black-latina-or-native-american-women.html
So... more often than not they work for minimum wage. What do you want me to do about It? Why mention that in a post about skateboarding, in a sentence addressing the average dude skater? Do they think I can change something? What could possibly come out of That? I work for minimum wage, but if I wanted to get a loan and go to college I could. Are minority women denied loans?
And calling someone dense reeeeeally helps to change their mind and see the light. Insults are the best way to convince people!
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just here to comment on the fact gentle jones sig is a clip of himself
He's gone full Weasley
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
The second a girl steps in a skateboard she is a skater girl, not a skater in the eyes of 99% of dudes at the skatepark. How do you suggest she change that reality?
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just here to comment on the fact gentle jones sig is a clip of himself
This is so shocking considering everything he does is with the intention of pimping himself out.
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This article was surprisingly good for CNN. You have to wonder how they hope to foster understanding and inclusion with that odd statement.
The people they’re telling to get lost are the ones who theoretically would benefit the most from interacting with the group. The last sentence of the article stands in total conflict with that insta post.
It is hilarious however, their mention of 1010 and his past resurfacing, and the fact that it’s now in a piece of recent major news media as an example of what’s wrong with the world still.
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Go skate in the streets.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
Ah, the ol "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup" argument. Just as stupid as saying you are okay with gay people, but don't you dare show any indication that you are gay.
You're an idiot.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
The second a girl steps in a skateboard she is a skater girl, not a skater in the eyes of 99% of dudes at the skatepark. How do you suggest she change that reality?
That isn't a reality. You can't just pull blanket statements out of your ass and use them as the basis for your victimhood worldview. So "she" probably doesn't have to change anything, besides grow some self-esteem.
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I just read that there isn't an openly gay professional athlete in any north american major sports league (confirm?), which just reaffirmed what I had always believed anyway - skateboarding is AHEAD of the curve when it comes to acceptance and inclusivity.
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As a gay man, I feel as though this Instagram post is a little misguided.
"Cis dude" also includes gay men, so they should have been more specific if they meant straight dudes. If they did mean to include gay men in "cis dude" then it's hurtful because it's as if cis gay men aren't "queer enough" to attend.
An event like their's would seem to be about inclusion but there is a vibe of exclusivity especially when there is a check list you have to meet if you're not part of the lgbt family.
I 100% understand someone's deep seeded anger and frustration towards a group of people who have privileges that you feel you've been denied. I just think they should have been more tactful when making sure that those who attend are respectful.
This is a good point. The instagram post definitely has its heart in the right place but they seem to have a poorly defined view of how to deliver their message. It also feels as though they are making a general statement about non-LGBTQ individuals and then implying that they should be excluded from this event. Not trying to say "hey we're the victims here" but from in my experience it is beneficial to have allies from all sides to strengthen a cause.
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I just read that there isn't an openly gay professional athlete in any north american major sports league (confirm?), which just reaffirmed what I had always believed anyway - skateboarding is AHEAD of the curve when it comes to acceptance and inclusivity.
Jason Collins came out while an active player in the NBA in 2013. Four years later, BA came out.
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I just read that there isn't an openly gay professional athlete in any north american major sports league (confirm?), which just reaffirmed what I had always believed anyway - skateboarding is AHEAD of the curve when it comes to acceptance and inclusivity.
Thanks! Guess he's done now though, and that's why the article I read said there were no openly gay athletes currently playing... but now a soccer player came out just yesterday. BA isn't alone anymore with people like Fore, Sablone, Lacey etc...
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
Ah, the ol "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup" argument. Just as stupid as saying you are okay with gay people, but don't you dare show any indication that you are gay.
You're an idiot.
How to win an argument when you don't have a legitimate response: call them names. You sure showed me!
After your boneheaded response you really think you deserved a well thought out reply?
I said: we need "more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race."
You take that as: "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup"
So I'll repeat the result of my analysis: You're an idiot.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
The second a girl steps in a skateboard she is a skater girl, not a skater in the eyes of 99% of dudes at the skatepark. How do you suggest she change that reality?
That isn't a reality. You can't just pull blanket statements out of your ass and use them as the basis for your victimhood worldview. So "she" probably doesn't have to change anything, besides grow some self-esteem.
Lol sure. Girls aren't judged different at skateparks/spots. Def.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
The second a girl steps in a skateboard she is a skater girl, not a skater in the eyes of 99% of dudes at the skatepark. How do you suggest she change that reality?
That isn't a reality. You can't just pull blanket statements out of your ass and use them as the basis for your victimhood worldview. So "she" probably doesn't have to change anything, besides grow some self-esteem.
Lol sure. Girls aren't judged different at skateparks/spots. Def.
You know.. There's a spot in between "99% of guys see a girl as less than" and "Girls aren't judged different at skateparks".
For fucks sakes, I hope you're not this much of a polarizing dunce in your regular life.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
The second a girl steps in a skateboard she is a skater girl, not a skater in the eyes of 99% of dudes at the skatepark. How do you suggest she change that reality?
That isn't a reality. You can't just pull blanket statements out of your ass and use them as the basis for your victimhood worldview. So "she" probably doesn't have to change anything, besides grow some self-esteem.
Lol sure. Girls aren't judged different at skateparks/spots. Def.
You know.. There's a spot in between "99% of guys see a girl as less than" and "Girls aren't judged different at skateparks".
For fucks sakes, I hope you're not this much of a polarizing dunce in your regular life.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
Ah, the ol "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup" argument. Just as stupid as saying you are okay with gay people, but don't you dare show any indication that you are gay.
You're an idiot.
How to win an argument when you don't have a legitimate response: call them names. You sure showed me!
After your boneheaded response you really think you deserved a well thought out reply?
I said: we need "more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race."
You take that as: "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup"
So I'll repeat the result of my analysis: You're an idiot.
Do tell, how does a woman or LGBTQ skater "define" their reality without acknowledging they are a woman or LGBTQ?
You seem hung up on outward appearances and "affinity". I was talking about someones individual perspective, not what groups you like on social media, or what logo/wristbands you like to decorate yourself with.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
Ah, the ol "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup" argument. Just as stupid as saying you are okay with gay people, but don't you dare show any indication that you are gay.
You're an idiot.
How to win an argument when you don't have a legitimate response: call them names. You sure showed me!
After your boneheaded response you really think you deserved a well thought out reply?
I said: we need "more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race."
You take that as: "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup"
So I'll repeat the result of my analysis: You're an idiot.
Do tell, how does a woman or LGBTQ skater "define" their reality without acknowledging they are a woman or LGBTQ?
You seem hung up on outward appearances and "affinity". I was talking about someones individual perspective, not what groups you like on social media, or what logo/wristbands you like to decorate yourself with.
Do you honestly believe that someones individual perspective isn't at least somewhat defined by their gender or sexuality?
Only if they make it so. I've gotta side with shripshrapper on this. I have no objection to any group wishing to host their own skate events but the type of gender/sexuality politics you are arguing for do not align with inclusivity. You are presenting yourself as an idiot.
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remember when gershon and kareem and lil stevie didn't get any respect from cis hetero white skaters so they called 'black swim' at the skatepark and allies could give them money to 'pay for their contributions'?
me neither.
skate and get respected. not cause you bought a shirt and a complete.
goes for any type of person.
pull this crybaby shit and you make it harder for the next marginalized group.
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Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
Ah, the ol "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup" argument. Just as stupid as saying you are okay with gay people, but don't you dare show any indication that you are gay.
You're an idiot.
How to win an argument when you don't have a legitimate response: call them names. You sure showed me!
After your boneheaded response you really think you deserved a well thought out reply?
I said: we need "more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race."
You take that as: "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup"
So I'll repeat the result of my analysis: You're an idiot.
Do tell, how does a woman or LGBTQ skater "define" their reality without acknowledging they are a woman or LGBTQ?
You seem hung up on outward appearances and "affinity". I was talking about someones individual perspective, not what groups you like on social media, or what logo/wristbands you like to decorate yourself with.
Do you honestly believe that someones individual perspective isn't at least somewhat defined by their gender or sexuality?
My argument is that if people want to define themselves by their identity, they should be more than welcome to. And if someone doesn't want to identify themselves by their sexuality/gender then more power to them. I never said that straight, cis people shouldn't be allowed to attend these events. That goes against everything I believe in.
But to say that queer people or women haven't faced scrutiny because of their outward identity is flat-out bullshit. You need to talk to these people and hear about their experiences. The same way I talk to my conservative friends and they tell me about their experiences. Empathizing with people is so lost on people nowadays.
That's not what I said. Also you asked about "individual perspective", that's defined by them, the individual. You know in the Female SOTY thread where someone posted Bill Burr being asked about female comedians and he responded along the lines of "why are you waiting for outside validation? Why don't you make your own shit?" Well this rings true to me. If you think you are not being given your dues in this community but expect to be treated differently why not do your own shit? Create your own "industry"? Sharktits has a point about Gershon, Stevie and Kareem.
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remember when gershon and kareem and lil stevie didn't get any respect from cis hetero white skaters so they called 'black swim' at the skatepark and allies could give them money to 'pay for their contributions'?
me neither.
skate and get respected. not cause you bought a shirt and a complete high wasted dickies
goes for any type of person.
pull this crybaby shit and you make it harder for the next marginalized group.
still trying to figure out how i can be the Dickies Women tm
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Kids always want revenge for the wrongs of the world. But really this just a CNN article, it ain't skateboarding. I just hope people can stop fallin for this gender politic bullshit and rise above.
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what i don't get is that they seem to want to be a part of "our" culture, but their way in always seems to be by excluding themselves from it...
and i kinda wonder, who started out skating and wasn't terrified the first time they went to the local skatepark? i'm a white privileged cis dude and didn't feel at home in the beginning either.
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you are a trashcan from head to toe. who do you think you are fooling
who the fuck is that old bald Tilly's employee trying to skate in your sig?
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you are a trashcan from head to toe. who do you think you are fooling
i don't wanna suck my own dick or derail this thread but what the fuck have you done for minorities?
you appropriate black culture [poorly w/ your wack rap], you appropriate pediphile culture w/ that mustache and you suck at skating.
for how 'racist' i am, my on/of gf is half black/half irish, i filmed most of bruh man's [vietnamese skater] instagram bangers this month, the DIY i'm part of is used by brown, yellow, white and black skaters and homeless people.
and last yr i gave a black lesbian a complete cause i didn't wanna see her pushing around on a longboard.
what the fuck have you done positively? not ruining some old fart [your age] career or stealing hiphop.
or making fun of a rape murder by an 80s skater to sell boards.
what have you done for anyone?
i don't tell nobody to kill themselves cause i don't want it on my head if you do but maybe focus your account, stop skating and for the love of all that is gnarly and rad, stop self promoting.
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ao went full lgbtq yesterday
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All I can say is that I took my son to the skate park in Costa Mesa at the Volcom Park he is nine years old and boy was he scared of all the skating around him And he would prefer that I roll around with him until he gets more comfortable with the park
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and last yr i gave a black lesbian a complete cause i didn't wanna see her pushing around on a longboard.
Did you call her the n word in the process?
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and last yr i gave a black lesbian a complete cause i didn't wanna see her pushing around on a longboard.
Did you call her the n word in the process?
do i call anyone the 'n word'?
i say wigger but i don't think i called anyone the n word, strawman.
what have you done to combat racism or to further minorities? calling people racist on slap doesn't count, what real world contributions have you made?
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
Ah, the ol "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup" argument. Just as stupid as saying you are okay with gay people, but don't you dare show any indication that you are gay.
You're an idiot.
How to win an argument when you don't have a legitimate response: call them names. You sure showed me!
After your boneheaded response you really think you deserved a well thought out reply?
I said: we need "more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race."
You take that as: "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup"
So I'll repeat the result of my analysis: You're an idiot.
Do tell, how does a woman or LGBTQ skater "define" their reality without acknowledging they are a woman or LGBTQ?
You seem hung up on outward appearances and "affinity". I was talking about someones individual perspective, not what groups you like on social media, or what logo/wristbands you like to decorate yourself with.
Do you honestly believe that someones individual perspective isn't at least somewhat defined by their gender or sexuality?
My argument is that if people want to define themselves by their identity, they should be more than welcome to. And if someone doesn't want to identify themselves by their sexuality/gender then more power to them. I never said that straight, cis people shouldn't be allowed to attend these events. That goes against everything I believe in.
But to say that queer people or women haven't faced scrutiny because of their outward identity is flat-out bullshit. You need to talk to these people and hear about their experiences. The same way I talk to my conservative friends and they tell me about their experiences. Empathizing with people is so lost on people nowadays.
If they felt welcome in the traditional skateboarding community, then there wouldn't necessitate a need for these queer groups. I hope my points are coming across clearly, I want to understand and empathize with where you are coming from but all I have gotten is me being called an idiot. That's slap I guess though.
Nope. What is your point?
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and last yr i gave a black lesbian a complete cause i didn't wanna see her pushing around on a longboard.
Did you call her the n word in the process?
i say wigger but i don't think i called anyone the n word, strawman.
what have you done to combat racism or to further minorities? calling people racist on slap doesn't count, what real world contributions have you made?
Every time you say this word you are calling black people the n word. There is no escaping that.
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Can somebody please just beat the fuck out of shark tit’s sealioninng ass? He’s such a trash nazi loser scumbag, I have no idea how he posts his racist bullshit peacefully, while others get vibed.
This is just a thread of trashy assholes LOSING THEIR FUCKING MINDS over the idea of creating a community that helps them feel like they belong in skateboarding.
Literally nothing they do excludes straight white males from skateboarding, they just meet together at public places to support each other. I’ve been to skateparks when groups like the ones mentioned above have been there. They’ve never told me to leave, just asked me to be respectful of those who were there and why they were there, which apparently is too much for the triggered racists of slap.
And lets be real, your claim that you don’t like them for being exclusive (which they are NOT) is really just you finding a reason to complain about people trying to build a more diverse community in skateboarding, and its very transparent.
As far as people of color not creating their own communities and safe spaces in skateboarding...of course they fucking did. Back in the 80’s when vert was hot and swastikas were just chill decorations, there weren’t many skateboarders of color, as they didn’t feel welcome. In fact, I’ve heard the discussion MILLIONS of times where black kids call skateboarding a “white sport” to this day. So yeah, community like that was and is necessary, and guess what, spots like EMB and companies like World, Menace, Chocolate, and DGK came around to help build black community within the skateboard community.
And to the dumb racist who said race and gender shouldn’t matter, that may be true, but guess what? Whether they should or shouldn’t matter, they do matter, and you trying to deny positive expression of those individual experiences are trash.
And seriously, all of you who claim LGBT people don’t deserve their own space in skateboarding are just bigot trash who have no place in skateboarding.
Now, on to the actual humans in this thread (unlike subhuman trash like sharktits and his trashy bigot followers), lets discuss the merit of the article as we would any other article:
One thing that annoyed me is their complete passing over of Unity as an LGBT+ brand and community. The article somehow brings up a much less-known sister brand to Unity, which is cool, but it literally only talks about Unity in relation to that brand.
Unity and Jeffery Cheung deserve more shine.
Oh, and Jarret Berry was a pro for a couple Chicago companies. I used to seriously admire him as a local skateboard hero. He had a part in the 90’s in Cold Broke, a video by Tough Guy skateboards, that was sick. Grinding rails in the high teens, throwing biggerspin heelflips into lines, etc. dude was a solid skater. Oh, and Tough Guy was a predecessor to Affiliate skateboards if anybody remembers that.
In closing, good people on slap need to chase these nazi-lovers like Sharktits and the new losers off this board.
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In closing, good people on slap need to chase these nazi-lovers like Sharktits and the new losers off this board.
but you'll have no one to aim your self entitled abusive rants at. your existence will become futile
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No ones mad about them creating their own group. Its the lowkey shit talking to non lgbgt people that people don't like. Its not hard to understand.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
Ah, the ol "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup" argument. Just as stupid as saying you are okay with gay people, but don't you dare show any indication that you are gay.
You're an idiot.
How to win an argument when you don't have a legitimate response: call them names. You sure showed me!
After your boneheaded response you really think you deserved a well thought out reply?
I said: we need "more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race."
You take that as: "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup"
So I'll repeat the result of my analysis: You're an idiot.
Do tell, how does a woman or LGBTQ skater "define" their reality without acknowledging they are a woman or LGBTQ?
You seem hung up on outward appearances and "affinity". I was talking about someones individual perspective, not what groups you like on social media, or what logo/wristbands you like to decorate yourself with.
Do you honestly believe that someones individual perspective isn't at least somewhat defined by their gender or sexuality?
My argument is that if people want to define themselves by their identity, they should be more than welcome to. And if someone doesn't want to identify themselves by their sexuality/gender then more power to them. I never said that straight, cis people shouldn't be allowed to attend these events. That goes against everything I believe in.
But to say that queer people or women haven't faced scrutiny because of their outward identity is flat-out bullshit. You need to talk to these people and hear about their experiences. The same way I talk to my conservative friends and they tell me about their experiences. Empathizing with people is so lost on people nowadays.
If they felt welcome in the traditional skateboarding community, then there wouldn't necessitate a need for these queer groups. I hope my points are coming across clearly, I want to understand and empathize with where you are coming from but all I have gotten is me being called an idiot. That's slap I guess though.
Read my original post. These LGBTQ skate groups have exactly 0 effect on your day to day skating. They are for people that need them. Is that really so awful?
I didn't claim they had any effect on my day to day skating. You were applying politics to it, not me. I'm all for their groups.
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and last yr i gave a black lesbian a complete cause i didn't wanna see her pushing around on a longboard.
Did you call her the n word in the process?
i say wigger but i don't think i called anyone the n word, strawman.
what have you done to combat racism or to further minorities? calling people racist on slap doesn't count, what real world contributions have you made?
what exactly were you implying, my nigger?
ghandi was a nigger killing son-of=a=bitch
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No ones mad about them creating their own group. Its the lowkey shit talking to non lgbgt people that people don't like. Its not hard to understand.
This. The gipper up there is classic kook material.
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No ones mad about them creating their own group. Its the lowkey shit talking to non lgbgt people that people don't like. Its not hard to understand.
This. The gipper up there is classic kook material.
Oh, fucking waaaaaah.
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No ones mad about them creating their own group. Its the lowkey shit talking to non lgbgt people that people don't like. Its not hard to understand.
This. The gipper up there is classic kook material.
This is how easy it is for white people. They are worried about being shit talked when all these other groups are worried and discrimination and safety. Poor babies.
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No ones mad about them creating their own group. Its the lowkey shit talking to non lgbgt people that people don't like. Its not hard to understand.
This. The gipper up there is classic kook material.
This is how easy it is for white people. They are worried about being shit talked when all these other groups are worried and discrimination and safety. Poor babies.
I know right. Tired of arguing with people who live in this alternative reality where they actually think LGBTQ people are harassing and oppressing them.
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No ones mad about them creating their own group. Its the lowkey shit talking to non lgbgt people that people don't like. Its not hard to understand.
This. The gipper up there is classic kook material.
This is how easy it is for white people. They are worried about being shit talked when all these other groups are worried and discrimination and safety. Poor babies.
I know right. Tired of arguing with people who live in this alternative reality where they actually think LGBTQ people are harassing and oppressing them.
Like I said, kids always want revenge for the wrongs of the world...
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No ones mad about them creating their own group. Its the lowkey shit talking to non lgbgt people that people don't like. Its not hard to understand.
This. The gipper up there is classic kook material.
Bawtawd is a fake account that exists to intentionally be as stupid as possible, and you just bought into it in a serious way. There’s no lowkey shit talking to non-lgbt people there, just people who are exclusive to others. But you probably think your homophobia and abuse toward lgbt people is some inherent right that needs to be respected, which is why you took inclusion to be an affront to you.
The nice karma about trash like this dude is that this is a skate messageboard, and there’s no way this dude lives in or near a city...meaning he skates shit spots. We already know that about sharktits, whose videos look like fucking gummo cut scenes
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No ones mad about them creating their own group. Its the lowkey shit talking to non lgbgt people that people don't like. Its not hard to understand.
This. The gipper up there is classic kook material.
The nice karma about trash like this dude is that this is a skate messageboard, and there’s no way this dude lives in or near a city...meaning he skates shit spots. We already know that about sharktits, whose videos look like fucking gummo cut scenes
Hey man I've fucked a dude before, your fight is with someone else. I just hate anything new.
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
these people are clearly pretending to skate in this photo, and badly. maybe they're feelings of not being accepted are stemming more from a lack of commitment to actually learning how to skate, as opposed to some kind of gender/racial/sexual bias? anyway, the message of that post is pretty shitty, presumptive, and exclusionary.
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Can somebody please just beat the fuck out of shark tit’s sealioninng ass? He’s such a trash nazi loser scumbag, I have no idea how he posts his racist bullshit peacefully, while others get vibed.
This is just a thread of trashy assholes LOSING THEIR FUCKING MINDS over the idea of creating a community that helps them feel like they belong in skateboarding.
Literally nothing they do excludes straight white males from skateboarding, they just meet together at public places to support each other. I’ve been to skateparks when groups like the ones mentioned above have been there. They’ve never told me to leave, just asked me to be respectful of those who were there and why they were there, which apparently is too much for the triggered racists of slap.
And lets be real, your claim that you don’t like them for being exclusive (which they are NOT) is really just you finding a reason to complain about people trying to build a more diverse community in skateboarding, and its very transparent.
As far as people of color not creating their own communities and safe spaces in skateboarding...of course they fucking did. Back in the 80’s when vert was hot and swastikas were just chill decorations, there weren’t many skateboarders of color, as they didn’t feel welcome. In fact, I’ve heard the discussion MILLIONS of times where black kids call skateboarding a “white sport” to this day. So yeah, community like that was and is necessary, and guess what, spots like EMB and companies like World, Menace, Chocolate, and DGK came around to help build black community within the skateboard community.
And to the dumb racist who said race and gender shouldn’t matter, that may be true, but guess what? Whether they should or shouldn’t matter, they do matter, and you trying to deny positive expression of those individual experiences are trash.
And seriously, all of you who claim LGBT people don’t deserve their own space in skateboarding are just bigot trash who have no place in skateboarding.
Now, on to the actual humans in this thread (unlike subhuman trash like sharktits and his trashy bigot followers), lets discuss the merit of the article as we would any other article:
One thing that annoyed me is their complete passing over of Unity as an LGBT+ brand and community. The article somehow brings up a much less-known sister brand to Unity, which is cool, but it literally only talks about Unity in relation to that brand.
Unity and Jeffery Cheung deserve more shine.
Oh, and Jarret Berry was a pro for a couple Chicago companies. I used to seriously admire him as a local skateboard hero. He had a part in the 90’s in Cold Broke, a video by Tough Guy skateboards, that was sick. Grinding rails in the high teens, throwing biggerspin heelflips into lines, etc. dude was a solid skater. Oh, and Tough Guy was a predecessor to Affiliate skateboards if anybody remembers that.
In closing, good people on slap need to chase these nazi-lovers like Sharktits and the new losers off this board.
Primed and triggered;)
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
these people are clearly pretending to skate in this photo, and badly. maybe they're feelings of not being accepted are stemming more from a lack of commitment to actually learning how to skate, as opposed to some kind of gender/racial/sexual bias? anyway, the message of that post is pretty shitty, presumptive, and exclusionary.
Yeah... can we just acknowledge the photo for a minute? What a fucking mockery. Some goofy shit that ya’ll would be hating on hard if it was representing a Zumiez sale.
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
these people are clearly pretending to skate in this photo, and badly. maybe they're feelings of not being accepted are stemming more from a lack of commitment to actually learning how to skate, as opposed to some kind of gender/racial/sexual bias? anyway, the message of that post is pretty shitty, presumptive, and exclusionary.
And I agree. The post could be worded way better in order to be truly inclusive. If it were me, I would not have added a cynical tagline about cis, male dudes not being welcome. That's very counterintuitive and our allies are our greatest resource. Who cares if they are cis, straight white dudes. A homies a homie.
Unfortunately with things like this though, the entire community of LGBTQ skaters gets dragged through the dirt and then every Jordan Peterson fanboy begins the same cycle of SJW boogyman-ism.
It literally doesn’t say cis white dudes can’t come. What it does say is if you want to come, come in a way that is to support those who the event is designed for, and support them in other aspects of life. Then all the new slap posters who heard about it after that nazi Jason jessee got exposed decided to turn it into an attack on their fragile egos.
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if you wanna be accepted as a skater don't show up to the park wearing birkenstocks. just a friendly tip
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That shit is beyond ridiculous, I know a trans and gay girl that skate the park all the time, very welcomed and know most everyone. Treated with nothing but respect.
But these ladies made a list to exclude me for being a straight male? Do those things before you even CONSIDER going?
Is this reverse bullying? They felt like outcasts and now have a club for just them? That post is more dividing than unifying. Too much divide in this country already, we can't just be skaters who skate the same park? Have to fit the ideal image of a few feminists? Honestly every female/gay/trans/poc I know would probably cringe at that post
Lets just SKATE TOGETHER without politics
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In closing, good people on slap need to chase these nazi-lovers like Sharktits and the new losers off this board.
but you'll have no one to aim your self entitled abusive rants at. your existence will become futile
These self-entitled, abusive rants have been going on long before your dumb ass showed up.
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In closing, good people on slap need to chase these nazi-lovers like Sharktits and the new losers off this board.
but you'll have no one to aim your self entitled abusive rants at. your existence will become futile
These self-entitled, abusive rants have been going on long before your dumb ass showed up.
and they will continue
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
these people are clearly pretending to skate in this photo, and badly. maybe they're feelings of not being accepted are stemming more from a lack of commitment to actually learning how to skate, as opposed to some kind of gender/racial/sexual bias? anyway, the message of that post is pretty shitty, presumptive, and exclusionary.
Yeah... can we just acknowledge the photo for a minute? What a fucking mockery. Some goofy shit that ya’ll would be hating on hard if it was representing a Zumiez sale.
I don't know these women so I'm not going to guess their seriousness but there was a similar "Girls Skate" group near me and they seemingly all flamed out within a year and disappeared. The only one I know kept going was trans and had been skating a guy for 15 prior.
I do know about a half dozen serious female lifer skaters and I don't think anyone gives them grief but they all skate solo or with guys.
This isn't meant as ammunition for some argument, just an observation.
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The only thing that bothers me about all these new demographics being welcomed into skating is that everyone thinks it's about fun and community and not about lines on ledges.
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Most of the girls in the article started skating in their 20s and older. They are not real skaters. They are posers. I’m all for skaters that put in real time on their boards. Claire rips and he/she wears a dress. If I were Elissa or Alexis I would not be happy about fake lesbian skaters appropriating skate culture.
If you dont start skating at age 3 your a fucking poser and embarassment.
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
these people are clearly pretending to skate in this photo, and badly. maybe they're feelings of not being accepted are stemming more from a lack of commitment to actually learning how to skate, as opposed to some kind of gender/racial/sexual bias? anyway, the message of that post is pretty shitty, presumptive, and exclusionary.
Yeah... can we just acknowledge the photo for a minute? What a fucking mockery. Some goofy shit that ya’ll would be hating on hard if it was representing a Zumiez sale.
I dunno, the girl on the left looks like she's having fun. I'm more concerned about the man and dog in the background, as they are clearly mugging those two guys on the ground for their phones.
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Most of the girls in the article started skating in their 20s and older. They are not real skaters. They are posers. I’m all for skaters that put in real time on their boards. Claire rips and he/she wears a dress. If I were Elissa or Alexis I would not be happy about fake lesbian skaters appropriating skate culture.
Yeah, I'm sure they are really broken up that more people like themselves are getting involved and spending money in an industry currently supporting their careers.
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Most of the girls in the article started skating in their 20s and older. They are not real skaters. They are posers. I’m all for skaters that put in real time on their boards. Claire rips and he/she wears a dress. If I were Elissa or Alexis I would not be happy about fake lesbian skaters appropriating skate culture.
If you dont start skating at age 3 your a fucking poser and embarassment.
Even nuns need to be at least 18 to devote the entirety of their lives to god. Skateboarding is fucking strict.
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
these people are clearly pretending to skate in this photo, and badly. maybe they're feelings of not being accepted are stemming more from a lack of commitment to actually learning how to skate, as opposed to some kind of gender/racial/sexual bias? anyway, the message of that post is pretty shitty, presumptive, and exclusionary.
And I agree. The post could be worded way better in order to be truly inclusive. If it were me, I would not have added a cynical tagline about cis, male dudes not being welcome. That's very counterintuitive and our allies are our greatest resource. Who cares if they are cis, straight white dudes. A homies a homie.
Unfortunately with things like this though, the entire community of LGBTQ skaters gets dragged through the dirt and then every Jordan Peterson fanboy begins the same cycle of SJW boogyman-ism.
I'm curious about your opinion on the "Pay black women for their time" part
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i'm a nazi from gummo? you're wil'in dummy. i live in one of the most diverse neighborhoods there is.
don't be jealous that i fuck w/ more nonwhite people in a day than everyone calling me racist can hope to.
i'm building community while you're mad on the internet.
way to change the world for the better, silly geese.http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ma/worcester/oak-hill
ps to alan, yeah i used some n words in 2014, one colloquially and one to describe how racist ghandi was. he was only about peaceful protest cause he knew india couldn't beat england in war so he feigned non violence.
prior to that he tried to incur englands' love and affection through slaughters of african people at the behest of england's wars of conquests.
but good use of your time on this earth.
what have you done to HELP anyone? criticizing isn't help.
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i'm a nazi from gummo? you're wil'in dummy. i live in one of the most diverse neighborhoods there is.
don't be jealous that i fuck w/ more nonwhite people in a day than everyone calling me racist can hope to.
i'm building community while you're mad on the internet.
way to change the world for the better, silly geese.http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ma/worcester/oak-hill
ps to alan, yeah i used some n words in 2014, one colloquially and one to describe how racist ghandi was. he was only about peaceful protest cause he knew india couldn't beat england in war so he feigned non violence.
prior to that he tried to incur englands' love and affection through slaughters of african people at the behest of england's wars of conquests.
but good use of your time on this earth.
what have you done to HELP anyone? criticizing isn't help.
Happening to reside in a diverse neighborhood isn't "building community"
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maybe slave owners that had relationships with their slaves werent racists either. plus they gave them a place to stay rent free and food to eat! also that nba owner who said that racist stuff probably wasnt racist either since he employed a bunch of black players for millions of dollars. he even ran some charity probrams to help mentor black youth. so obviously the terrible things he said about black people can be disregarded.
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i'm a nazi from gummo? you're wil'in dummy. i live in one of the most diverse neighborhoods there is.
don't be jealous that i fuck w/ more nonwhite people in a day than everyone calling me racist can hope to.
i'm building community while you're mad on the internet.
way to change the world for the better, silly geese.http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ma/worcester/oak-hill
ps to alan, yeah i used some n words in 2014, one colloquially and one to describe how racist ghandi was. he was only about peaceful protest cause he knew india couldn't beat england in war so he feigned non violence.
prior to that he tried to incur englands' love and affection through slaughters of african people at the behest of england's wars of conquests.
but good use of your time on this earth.
what have you done to HELP anyone? criticizing isn't help.
Chaun Shabu in Worcester gets my dick hard.
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i'm a nazi from gummo? you're wil'in dummy. i live in one of the most diverse neighborhoods there is.
don't be jealous that i fuck w/ more nonwhite people in a day than everyone calling me racist can hope to.
i'm building community while you're mad on the internet.
way to change the world for the better, silly geese.http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ma/worcester/oak-hill
ps to alan, yeah i used some n words in 2014, one colloquially and one to describe how racist ghandi was. he was only about peaceful protest cause he knew india couldn't beat england in war so he feigned non violence.
prior to that he tried to incur englands' love and affection through slaughters of african people at the behest of england's wars of conquests.
but good use of your time on this earth.
what have you done to HELP anyone? criticizing isn't help.
Happening to reside in a diverse neighborhood isn't "building community"
well i know that, big sexy. i'm referring to the DIY we're making and the cross section of rad people [and undesirables like anthony shetler] jk he's sick but him and his friends did tip over a trash can and leave almond milk containers.
i digress, we built a spot and it's got a life of it's own. oh and i got taught a bunch of people how to keep bees so now there's like 5 new beekeepers in my city.
as you may or may not know, beekeeping and gardening go hand in hand so not to take full credit but i've influenced the number of gardens in my area, bees for certain.
w/out bees we'll only have a few yrs left.
w/out sjws we've lived for millenia.
sorry what i do holds more import than protesting language or whatever ya'll are into.
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And here I go with my bullshit: what exactly do they mean by "pay black women for their time?"
these people are clearly pretending to skate in this photo, and badly. maybe they're feelings of not being accepted are stemming more from a lack of commitment to actually learning how to skate, as opposed to some kind of gender/racial/sexual bias? anyway, the message of that post is pretty shitty, presumptive, and exclusionary.
Yeah... can we just acknowledge the photo for a minute? What a fucking mockery. Some goofy shit that ya’ll would be hating on hard if it was representing a Zumiez sale.
This is definitely some heavy posering, but now I'm focussed on the background and the sick janky bank to curb for a pivot fakie challenge.
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i'm a nazi from gummo? you're wil'in dummy. i live in one of the most diverse neighborhoods there is.
don't be jealous that i fuck w/ more nonwhite people in a day than everyone calling me racist can hope to.
i'm building community while you're mad on the internet.
way to change the world for the better, silly geese.http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ma/worcester/oak-hill
ps to alan, yeah i used some n words in 2014, one colloquially and one to describe how racist ghandi was. he was only about peaceful protest cause he knew india couldn't beat england in war so he feigned non violence.
prior to that he tried to incur englands' love and affection through slaughters of african people at the behest of england's wars of conquests.
but good use of your time on this earth.
what have you done to HELP anyone? criticizing isn't help.
Happening to reside in a diverse neighborhood isn't "building community"
i digress, we built a spot and it's got a life of it's own. oh and i got taught a bunch of people how to keep bees so now there's like 5 new beekeepers in my city.
as you may or may not know, beekeeping and gardening go hand in hand so not to take full credit but i've influenced the number of gardens in my area, bees for certain.
w/out bees we'll only have a few yrs left.
w/out sjws we've lived for millenia.
sorry what i do holds more import than protesting language or whatever ya'll are into.
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Shark tits I got ya back. Low as my post count is I had another account that I was forced to abandon, I been here awhile, I've seen a decade's worth of slap at least. May your bees live long (what do they live, a year?) And prosper. You don't harbour no hate
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Do people really believe that Alex Olson gives a damn about gay people? Bianca Chandon is 100% a mockery of the lgbt community its over priced garbage. Alex better scrap that father son skate jam with Bony Hawk because the people will raise hell if they see that racist homphobic piece of shit steve olson claim to skate for equality.
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There's no hate in Shark Tits' heart.
I don't give a fuck who's at the park, as long as they aren't blocking that low ledge that I only skate.
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Do people really believe that Alex Olson gives a damn about gay people? Bianca Chandon is 100% a mockery of the lgbt community its over priced garbage. Alex better scrap that father son skate jam with Bony Hawk because the people will raise hell if they see that racist homphobic piece of shit steve olson claim to skate for equality.
i think he cares more about them then anyone else on this forum pretends to.
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lol ok dude. no one has any problem with LGBT+ people skating, and feeling comfortable and accepted doing it. this is more about what seems like a group of people stepping into a culture, appropriating it, and then excluding and guilting members of that culture for some kind of perceived bias or bigotry.
guess what: skateboarding is hard to get into. you don't get good overnight, you have to put in work. you don't just pick up a skateboard, show up, and get accepted. you earn respect by putting the time and effort in. we all know this. from the materials that this group has posted, it seems like some of these people decided skateboarding looked cool, bought a skateboard, and expected some kind of red carpet to be rolled out for them. When it wasn't, the deduced that it must have been a result of bias, or toxic straight white cis masculinity. I'm not buying it, sorry.
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lol ok dude. no one has any problem with LGBT+ people skating, and feeling comfortable and accepted doing it. this is more about what seems like a group of people stepping into a culture, appropriating it, and then excluding and guilting members of that culture for some kind of perceived bias or bigotry.
guess what: skateboarding is hard to get into. you don't get good overnight, you have to put in work. you don't just pick up a skateboard, show up, and get accepted. you earn respect by putting the time and effort in. we all know this. from the materials that this group has posted, it seems like some of these people decided skateboarding looked cool, bought a skateboard, and expected some kind of red carpet to be rolled out for them. When it wasn't, the deduced that it must have been a result of bias, or toxic straight white cis masculinity. I'm not buying it, sorry.
holy shit you make skateboarding sound horrible, like a high school football team or something. i must be doing something wrong.
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lol ok dude. no one has any problem with LGBT+ people skating, and feeling comfortable and accepted doing it. this is more about what seems like a group of people stepping into a culture, appropriating it, and then excluding and guilting members of that culture for some kind of perceived bias or bigotry.
guess what: skateboarding is hard to get into. you don't get good overnight, you have to put in work. you don't just pick up a skateboard, show up, and get accepted. you earn respect by putting the time and effort in. we all know this. from the materials that this group has posted, it seems like some of these people decided skateboarding looked cool, bought a skateboard, and expected some kind of red carpet to be rolled out for them. When it wasn't, the deduced that it must have been a result of bias, or toxic straight white cis masculinity. I'm not buying it, sorry.
Do you think it's a possibility that getting into skateboarding would be harder for a woman or someone who is LGBTQ?
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lol ok dude. no one has any problem with LGBT+ people skating, and feeling comfortable and accepted doing it. this is more about what seems like a group of people stepping into a culture, appropriating it, and then excluding and guilting members of that culture for some kind of perceived bias or bigotry.
guess what: skateboarding is hard to get into. you don't get good overnight, you have to put in work. you don't just pick up a skateboard, show up, and get accepted. you earn respect by putting the time and effort in. we all know this. from the materials that this group has posted, it seems like some of these people decided skateboarding looked cool, bought a skateboard, and expected some kind of red carpet to be rolled out for them. When it wasn't, the deduced that it must have been a result of bias, or toxic straight white cis masculinity. I'm not buying it, sorry.
Do you think it's a possibility that getting into skateboarding would be harder for a woman or someone who is LGBTQ?
nobody is saying it isn't. what i'm saying is, that skateboarders are more accepting than they're getting credit for. show up, try hard, don't be an asshole, and don't quit, and you'll be accepted. being from a a marginialized group doesn't mean that people should automatically be nice to you. maybe some people aren't being accepted because they are projecting their own insecurities.
also, you can have a group that makes marginalized people feel more comfortable without shitting all over potential allies. the bit on the instagram post about cis white males was meant as a jab to who they perceive as their oppressors. that was completely unnecessary.
if they actually really cared about skating, maybe they could have gotten one of the countless lgbt+ people that can actually skate a little bit instead of a couple people who can barely stand on a skateboard and someone that thinks pushing a few feet wearing birkenstocks makes her a skater.
the whole thing seems very disingenuous. it feels less about skating and more about a social agenda
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lol ok dude. no one has any problem with LGBT+ people skating, and feeling comfortable and accepted doing it. this is more about what seems like a group of people stepping into a culture, appropriating it, and then excluding and guilting members of that culture for some kind of perceived bias or bigotry.
guess what: skateboarding is hard to get into. you don't get good overnight, you have to put in work. you don't just pick up a skateboard, show up, and get accepted. you earn respect by putting the time and effort in. we all know this. from the materials that this group has posted, it seems like some of these people decided skateboarding looked cool, bought a skateboard, and expected some kind of red carpet to be rolled out for them. When it wasn't, the deduced that it must have been a result of bias, or toxic straight white cis masculinity. I'm not buying it, sorry.
holy shit you make skateboarding sound horrible, like a high school football team or something. i must be doing something wrong.
the first time i met the older skaters in my town they took one look at me and told me they would beat me to death if i touched their jump ramp. a few years later they were my best friends. don't act like getting into skating is all roses and daffodils. some people are dicks, regardless of your own personal identity.
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
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lol ok dude. no one has any problem with LGBT+ people skating, and feeling comfortable and accepted doing it. this is more about what seems like a group of people stepping into a culture, appropriating it, and then excluding and guilting members of that culture for some kind of perceived bias or bigotry.
guess what: skateboarding is hard to get into. you don't get good overnight, you have to put in work. you don't just pick up a skateboard, show up, and get accepted. you earn respect by putting the time and effort in. we all know this. from the materials that this group has posted, it seems like some of these people decided skateboarding looked cool, bought a skateboard, and expected some kind of red carpet to be rolled out for them. When it wasn't, the deduced that it must have been a result of bias, or toxic straight white cis masculinity. I'm not buying it, sorry.
holy shit you make skateboarding sound horrible, like a high school football team or something. i must be doing something wrong.
the first time i met the older skaters in my town they took one look at me and told me they would beat me to death if i touched their jump ramp. a few years later they were my best friends. don't act like getting into skating is all roses and daffodils. some people are dicks, regardless of your own personal identity.
couldnt agree with this more. i started skating in 05 and i would get vibed hard, and im from a suburb of kansas city.
Older better dudes treated me like shit but one day i showed up to the park and front boarded our big rail and got claps and shit. one of the best days of my life.
sorry to butt in for no reason im 50oz of high grav deep and i dont giveva fuck
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lol ok dude. no one has any problem with LGBT+ people skating, and feeling comfortable and accepted doing it. this is more about what seems like a group of people stepping into a culture, appropriating it, and then excluding and guilting members of that culture for some kind of perceived bias or bigotry.
guess what: skateboarding is hard to get into. you don't get good overnight, you have to put in work. you don't just pick up a skateboard, show up, and get accepted. you earn respect by putting the time and effort in. we all know this. from the materials that this group has posted, it seems like some of these people decided skateboarding looked cool, bought a skateboard, and expected some kind of red carpet to be rolled out for them. When it wasn't, the deduced that it must have been a result of bias, or toxic straight white cis masculinity. I'm not buying it, sorry.
Do you think it's a possibility that getting into skateboarding would be harder for a woman or someone who is LGBTQ?
nobody is saying it isn't. what i'm saying is, that skateboarders are more accepting than they're getting credit for. show up, try hard, don't be an asshole, and don't quit, and you'll be accepted. being from a a marginialized group doesn't mean that people should automatically be nice to you. maybe some people aren't being accepted because they are projecting their own insecurities.
also, you can have a group that makes marginalized people feel more comfortable without shitting all over potential allies. the bit on the instagram post about cis white males was meant as a jab to who they perceive as their oppressors. that was completely unnecessary.
if they actually really cared about skating, maybe they could have gotten one of the countless lgbt+ people that can actually skate a little bit instead of a couple people who can barely stand on a skateboard and someone that thinks pushing a few feet wearing birkenstocks makes her a skater.
the whole thing seems very disingenuous. it feels less about skating and more about a social agenda
They are obviously beginners. Let's acknowledge the concept that being surrounded by your friends makes you a better skateboarder. So when a girl or LGBTQ person shows up to a park, they want to be surrounded by people that won't judge them or vibe them out so they make a group that supports who they are. And there is nothing wrong with that. Obviously, they are going to learn the ins and outs of the culture. But the reason they don't know any part of our culture is that they haven't been represented in any shape or form in the skate industry until very recently.
But that whole mentality of vibing out newcomers because you yourself were vibed out, is just as bad as the argument that if you faced ritualized hazing, then the next generation deserves it too. Which is what jocks and frat bro's do.
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Quit your crying snowflake.
Look at reality: most of these skate meet ups that are women/queer/trans focused happen during times of days when parks aren't that crowded, from my experience. If you can even name a time when you've been "marginalized" at a skatepark by some non cis-het-males then I guarantee that's the exception and not the rule.
Anyone who wants to learn how to skate should be able to feel comfortable at a skate park. I agree with one of the posters earlier, as a cis-het-non-white-male-bro even I felt uncomfortable at skateparks as a kid because of weird vibes people put out. If I was a woman or gay or trans then I'm pretty sure there's a high chance I'd feel even more vibes.
Even beginners should be able to feel good and have fun at the park. Should everyone, including newbs and queer/trans/women, learn the basics of park rules? Yep. And most of the Skate Like A Girl/Unity type groups that I've interacted with teach those as basics.
Anyone whining and crying like a little baby about this should go find a safe space to cry in, or just suck it up and realize that there's always room to learn more about something that you'er passionate about. In this case, it's OK to admit that you didn't realize that skating felt exclusive and required all these groups forming to make it more inclusive.
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On a separate note, I do think that the caption for that IG post advertising the skate meet up is wack. Still, I recognize it's being hyperbolic *and* it even invites people to come in the last part of the last sentence. So, am I bent out of shape about it? No. Would I write it in that way? Yes. But it's nothing to whine and cry about. Re-phrase it if you're all bent out of shape and post your alternative phrasing rather than be a little snowflake about it.
just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
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lol ok dude. no one has any problem with LGBT+ people skating, and feeling comfortable and accepted doing it. this is more about what seems like a group of people stepping into a culture, appropriating it, and then excluding and guilting members of that culture for some kind of perceived bias or bigotry.
guess what: skateboarding is hard to get into. you don't get good overnight, you have to put in work. you don't just pick up a skateboard, show up, and get accepted. you earn respect by putting the time and effort in. we all know this. from the materials that this group has posted, it seems like some of these people decided skateboarding looked cool, bought a skateboard, and expected some kind of red carpet to be rolled out for them. When it wasn't, the deduced that it must have been a result of bias, or toxic straight white cis masculinity. I'm not buying it, sorry.
holy shit you make skateboarding sound horrible, like a high school football team or something. i must be doing something wrong.
the first time i met the older skaters in my town they took one look at me and told me they would beat me to death if i touched their jump ramp. a few years later they were my best friends. don't act like getting into skating is all roses and daffodils. some people are dicks, regardless of your own personal identity.
Older better dudes treated me like shit but one day i showed up to the park and front boarded our big rail and got claps and shit. one of the best days of my life.
sorry to butt in for no reason im 50oz of high grav deep and i dont giveva fuck
weird. i started skating in the mid 90s and went to big bad scary love park and fdr and never dealt with shit like that. the only place i remembered being vibed was in shitty delaware suburbs by cool guys at the local shop. in hindsight they were the biggest losers.
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
thank god your kind is losing and there is nothing you can do about it.
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lol ok dude. no one has any problem with LGBT+ people skating, and feeling comfortable and accepted doing it. this is more about what seems like a group of people stepping into a culture, appropriating it, and then excluding and guilting members of that culture for some kind of perceived bias or bigotry.
guess what: skateboarding is hard to get into. you don't get good overnight, you have to put in work. you don't just pick up a skateboard, show up, and get accepted. you earn respect by putting the time and effort in. we all know this. from the materials that this group has posted, it seems like some of these people decided skateboarding looked cool, bought a skateboard, and expected some kind of red carpet to be rolled out for them. When it wasn't, the deduced that it must have been a result of bias, or toxic straight white cis masculinity. I'm not buying it, sorry.
Do you think it's a possibility that getting into skateboarding would be harder for a woman or someone who is LGBTQ?
nobody is saying it isn't. what i'm saying is, that skateboarders are more accepting than they're getting credit for. show up, try hard, don't be an asshole, and don't quit, and you'll be accepted. being from a a marginialized group doesn't mean that people should automatically be nice to you. maybe some people aren't being accepted because they are projecting their own insecurities.
also, you can have a group that makes marginalized people feel more comfortable without shitting all over potential allies. the bit on the instagram post about cis white males was meant as a jab to who they perceive as their oppressors. that was completely unnecessary.
if they actually really cared about skating, maybe they could have gotten one of the countless lgbt+ people that can actually skate a little bit instead of a couple people who can barely stand on a skateboard and someone that thinks pushing a few feet wearing birkenstocks makes her a skater.
the whole thing seems very disingenuous. it feels less about skating and more about a social agenda
They are obviously beginners. Let's acknowledge the concept that being surrounded by your friends makes you a better skateboarder. So when a girl or LGBTQ person shows up to a park, they want to be surrounded by people that won't judge them or vibe them out so they make a group that supports who they are. And there is nothing wrong with that. Obviously, they are going to learn the ins and outs of the culture. But the reason they don't know any part of our culture is that they haven't been represented in any shape or form in the skate industry until very recently.
But that whole mentality of vibing out newcomers because you yourself were vibed out, is just as bad as the argument that if you faced ritualized hazing, then the next generation deserves it too. Which is what jocks and frat bro's do.
Blader in your sig is getting physically vibed out.
On a good day I’m physically competent, and have had the credentials of being a huge skate rat for a number of years. If marginalized individuals think it’s any better for the majority as far as vibeyness at skate parks, and in skating in general they’re sorely mistaken. I’m old (like many here), and I generally have to make the efforts to include myself to lessen any of the general weirdness.
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Quit your crying snowflake.
Look at reality: most of these skate meet ups that are women/queer/trans focused happen during times of days when parks aren't that crowded, from my experience. If you can even name a time when you've been "marginalized" at a skatepark by some non cis-het-males then I guarantee that's the exception and not the rule.
Anyone who wants to learn how to skate should be able to feel comfortable at a skate park. I agree with one of the posters earlier, as a cis-het-non-white-male-bro even I felt uncomfortable at skateparks as a kid because of weird vibes people put out. If I was a woman or gay or trans then I'm pretty sure there's a high chance I'd feel even more vibes.
Even beginners should be able to feel good and have fun at the park. Should everyone, including newbs and queer/trans/women, learn the basics of park rules? Yep. And most of the Skate Like A Girl/Unity type groups that I've interacted with teach those as basics.
Anyone whining and crying like a little baby about this should go find a safe space to cry in, or just suck it up and realize that there's always room to learn more about something that you'er passionate about. In this case, it's OK to admit that you didn't realize that skating felt exclusive and required all these groups forming to make it more inclusive.
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On a separate note, I do think that the caption for that IG post advertising the skate meet up is wack. Still, I recognize it's being hyperbolic *and* it even invites people to come in the last part of the last sentence. So, am I bent out of shape about it? No. Would I write it in that way? Yes. But it's nothing to whine and cry about. Re-phrase it if you're all bent out of shape and post your alternative phrasing rather than be a little snowflake about it.
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
this meet up is literally in the middle of the day. anyone who wants to skate a public skatepark should be able to without guidlelines set forth on them by a bunch of posers (and ya simple guidlines like don't linger in the bottom of the bowl are valid). and these chicks are literally whining that they didn't get the red carpet treatment by the skate community therefore they're attempting to turn a public skatepark into their own safe space just for them. you dumb
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Do people really believe that Alex Olson gives a damn about gay people? Bianca Chandon is 100% a mockery of the lgbt community its over priced garbage.
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
thank god your kind is losing and there is nothing you can do about it.
nope. i would love nothing more for these chicks to skate where ever they please and continue to do so and have fun. but if they stand by the caption in that IG post then they would have preferred that I not be there skating the park with them that day. fuck that i won't let them oppress me. ill skate wherever and whenever i damn please and i don't need to put up a cock up my ass to do so.
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This is why BA's coming put was so important to skateboarding and the culture in general. How much does the industry need to circlejerk itself about the legacy of Jay Adams, Danny Way, and Jeremy Klein?
As someone who is part of the LGBTQ community, it becomes really daunting to be involved with skateboarding when those known homophobes are lauded throughout skate culture as beyond criticism because of their skill level and industry status.
It's no surprise when these LGBTQ skate groups like this are popping up exponentially because skateboarding has undoubtedly marginalized women and queers until very recently. Granted, the whole "pay black women for their time" gripe is a little misguided, but at least they are not beating straight people to death for walking down the street holding their partner's hand.
Skateboarding needs more of this in our small community, not more pseudo jock bro's who vibe out people at their local park.
Skateboarding needs less of this, and more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race.
Ah, the ol "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup" argument. Just as stupid as saying you are okay with gay people, but don't you dare show any indication that you are gay.
You're an idiot.
How to win an argument when you don't have a legitimate response: call them names. You sure showed me!
After your boneheaded response you really think you deserved a well thought out reply?
I said: we need "more women/LGBTQ skaters that don't define their reality through the lens of gender and race."
You take that as: "be whoever you want to be, but don't you dare show any outward affinity to your inherent individual markup"
So I'll repeat the result of my analysis: You're an idiot.
Do tell, how does a woman or LGBTQ skater "define" their reality without acknowledging they are a woman or LGBTQ?
You seem hung up on outward appearances and "affinity". I was talking about someones individual perspective, not what groups you like on social media, or what logo/wristbands you like to decorate yourself with.
Do you honestly believe that someones individual perspective isn't at least somewhat defined by their gender or sexuality?
My argument is that if people want to define themselves by their identity, they should be more than welcome to. And if someone doesn't want to identify themselves by their sexuality/gender then more power to them. I never said that straight, cis people shouldn't be allowed to attend these events. That goes against everything I believe in.
But to say that queer people or women haven't faced scrutiny because of their outward identity is flat-out bullshit. You need to talk to these people and hear about their experiences. The same way I talk to my conservative friends and they tell me about their experiences. Empathizing with people is so lost on people nowadays.
If they felt welcome in the traditional skateboarding community, then there wouldn't necessitate a need for these queer groups. I hope my points are coming across clearly, I want to understand and empathize with where you are coming from but all I have gotten is me being called an idiot. That's slap I guess though.
Read my original post. These LGBTQ skate groups have exactly 0 effect on your day to day skating. They are for people that need them. Is that really so awful?
Sure doesn't seem like it. You haven't said a single positive thing about them and just went off defending shripshrapper like he hasn't been chirping the same tired Ben Shapiro "identity politcs is cancer" talking points over and over across multiple threads. But it's cool, you do you bro.
Oh, so it's external validation you'd like from me. Have I said anything negative either? My initial interaction with you came from you asking about "individual perspective" relating to gender and sexuality. You are the one using politics (affairs of the city) and I was more focused on the individual , but it's cool, you do you bro.
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Blader in your sig is getting physically vibed out.
The blader kid that Eric J. shoves is probably 11 years old. Very much the jock/frat boy described, just on heroin.
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
thank god your kind is losing and there is nothing you can do about it.
nope. i would love nothing more for these chicks to skate where ever they please and continue to do so and have fun. but if they stand by the caption in that IG post then they would have preferred that I not be there skating the park with them that day. fuck that i won't let them oppress me. ill skate wherever and whenever i damn please and i don't need to put up a cock up my ass to do so.
Hell yeah, you and your cockless ass gleam the cube!
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i won't let them oppress me
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One of my gripes with any beginner is when they are actually learning how to ride a board on flatground at a skatepark. Learn on a street or something, learn how to negotiate traffic, it's a valuable skill. Don't clog up the park. If you're ready to go down a bank then it's game on.
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cant ride a skateboard? ride it in traffic!
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These groups are fun because I can go and be horrible and nobody cares that I suck. Gives me some sort of ego boost. Plus, the kids are really sweet, helping each other learn to drop in or ollie. It's fucking endearing.
I love watching people get a thrill out of rolling off a curb...so much more exciting than watching some bro squeal and throw his board because he can't land a nollie flip down a six set or something.
Also *Simpsons gif where the old man comes in and hangs his hat, then turns around, grabs his hat and leaves*
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
thank god your kind is losing and there is nothing you can do about it.
"YOU'RE NOT A SKATEBOARDER UNTIL YOU CAN TRE FLIP, BOY!...er, GIRL!"
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One of my gripes with any beginner is when they are actually learning how to ride a board on flatground at a skatepark. Learn on a street or something, learn how to negotiate traffic, it's a valuable skill. Don't clog up the park. If you're ready to go down a bank then it's game on.
or even if you're good, playing SKATE..... if you're just gonna skate flat, go to a parking lot.
Anyways this is just the same thread as the Marie Dabbadie one and I have zero interest in repeating the same argument.
But I'd really like to hear BA or Elissa Steamer's take on this? They're from my generation so I wonder how they feel..... Elissa is gay right?
oh and I still don't get what the difference is between being "non binary gender-queer" and simply gay/lesbian/bisexual as our old asses used to say, before the internet and skateboarding becoming a hot trendy instagram hashtag.
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These groups are fun because I can go and be horrible and nobody cares that I suck. Gives me some sort of ego boost. Plus, the kids are really sweet, helping each other learn to drop in or ollie. It's fucking endearing.
I love watching people get a thrill out of rolling off a curb...so much more exciting than watching some bro squeal and throw his board because he can't land a nollie flip down a six set or something.
Also *Simpsons gif where the old man comes in and hangs his hat, then turns around, grabs his hat and leaves*
And from what I can tell that's the point of these groups and events, to relax that pressure and the level of intimidation. I too am more stoked on someone's first Ollie over a single board than brohiem getting buck for the celebratory high fives, especially in a skatepark.
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These groups are fun because I can go and be horrible and nobody cares that I suck. Gives me some sort of ego boost. Plus, the kids are really sweet, helping each other learn to drop in or ollie. It's fucking endearing.
I love watching people get a thrill out of rolling off a curb...so much more exciting than watching some bro squeal and throw his board because he can't land a nollie flip down a six set or something.
Also *Simpsons gif where the old man comes in and hangs his hat, then turns around, grabs his hat and leaves*
if i was forced to bail a nollie flip because a rogue birkenstock sandal that fell off one of these hoes feet got in my way i would be doing a lot more than just squealing like a stuck pig. bunch a posers i tell you.
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These groups are fun because I can go and be horrible and nobody cares that I suck. Gives me some sort of ego boost. Plus, the kids are really sweet, helping each other learn to drop in or ollie. It's fucking endearing.
I love watching people get a thrill out of rolling off a curb...so much more exciting than watching some bro squeal and throw his board because he can't land a nollie flip down a six set or something.
Also *Simpsons gif where the old man comes in and hangs his hat, then turns around, grabs his hat and leaves*
if i was forced to bail a nollie flip because a rogue birkenstock sandal that fell off one of these hoes feet got in my way i would be doing a lot more than just squealing like a stuck pig. bunch a posers i tell you.
Hey guys, check out the Demo King we got here. What's your skatepark session ender ender?
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why is your snowflake ass whining about them not following the guidelines? Did they *in reality* not follow guidelines? I bet they did. I bet you're just in your feelings because people you don't know are learning to skate. Grow a pair of ovaries bro.
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Quit your crying snowflake.
Look at reality: most of these skate meet ups that are women/queer/trans focused happen during times of days when parks aren't that crowded, from my experience. If you can even name a time when you've been "marginalized" at a skatepark by some non cis-het-males then I guarantee that's the exception and not the rule.
Anyone who wants to learn how to skate should be able to feel comfortable at a skate park. I agree with one of the posters earlier, as a cis-het-non-white-male-bro even I felt uncomfortable at skateparks as a kid because of weird vibes people put out. If I was a woman or gay or trans then I'm pretty sure there's a high chance I'd feel even more vibes.
Even beginners should be able to feel good and have fun at the park. Should everyone, including newbs and queer/trans/women, learn the basics of park rules? Yep. And most of the Skate Like A Girl/Unity type groups that I've interacted with teach those as basics.
Anyone whining and crying like a little baby about this should go find a safe space to cry in, or just suck it up and realize that there's always room to learn more about something that you'er passionate about. In this case, it's OK to admit that you didn't realize that skating felt exclusive and required all these groups forming to make it more inclusive.
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On a separate note, I do think that the caption for that IG post advertising the skate meet up is wack. Still, I recognize it's being hyperbolic *and* it even invites people to come in the last part of the last sentence. So, am I bent out of shape about it? No. Would I write it in that way? Yes. But it's nothing to whine and cry about. Re-phrase it if you're all bent out of shape and post your alternative phrasing rather than be a little snowflake about it.
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
this meet up is literally in the middle of the day. anyone who wants to skate a public skatepark should be able to without guidlelines set forth on them by a bunch of posers (and ya simple guidlines like don't linger in the bottom of the bowl are valid). and these chicks are literally whining that they didn't get the red carpet treatment by the skate community therefore they're attempting to turn a public skatepark into their own safe space just for them. you dumb
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Also *Simpsons gif where the old man comes in and hangs his hat, then turns around, grabs his hat and leaves*
I got you, homie.
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I don’t get why wanting to be accepted as who you are gets people who aren’t that way so angry. I mean the vast majority of the people on slap I’m guessing are over 18 because of the level of history most know on here. The sport is mainly made up of people under 18 tho, and for those who skate in anywhere not on the east coast/West Coast you have that whole honor culture thing going on with adolescence(if you all are actually interested go read up on honor cultures, it will teach you a lot, its what most misinformed people label as toxic masculinity, which is bullshit interpretation in every way). I’ve heard numerous kids at parks across the country openly hate on the gay skaters that come to the park, and in general believe gay people shouldn’t be apart of the culture or skate because gay people just make skateboarding look less mainly. last park I went to I actually heard a 16 year old scream at the top of his lungs all gay people should be killed, and he wasn’t being ironic. I’ve seen gay skaters get shamed not only at parks but within our own industry. If y’all want to be assholes to people, go fucking ahead, but know who you all basically seem like by association from even gauging the topic from a non-inviting perspective. gay people have it fucking rough in most places across the United States not on the coasts, so I can understand if those living in the coast bubbles have no fucking clue.
I don’t even feel as bad for gay skaters as I do for women skaters. If you have ever seen 4-5 women at a skatepark at once, listen to what people say sometime about them. Most of the time in my experience people generally say the best girl is the one that’s best looking, not the best skater, and then they try to back it up with oh but style. I can for a fact say that there are numerous male skaters who are ugly as fuck that have unbelievable style(McCrank, Silas, Mariano, etc.), and obviously you have the Dylans and BAs, but it’s not like male skaters are judged on how good they look, they are judged on how cool they look for lack of a better word.
Also people getting upset about using fucking pronouns or calling people what they want to be called fuck right off. You should treat people how you wanted to be treated, and I assume you want people to call you by your name instead of whitey or blackey or something more derogatory. How do people get upset of the pronoun thing so much? We as a culture recognized it was wrong to call black people the n word, and all types of other social advancements of our language. Our fucking society has advanced to a point where we just don’t do those things anymore, so anyone who thinks white people shouldnt say the n word yet get pissed about the pronoun game, again, can fuck right off.
I just don’t understand how a fucking culture of outcasts can dog on minorities so much. Smh. I mean I get how much the black race hates gay people far more then white people do(if you don’t believe me go look up prop 8 voter statistics on race for just a small example, again honor cultures). At the end of the day go treat people well, and get as many people stoked on skating because it just helps us all. It gives the industry more money, which helps promote the riders you want to be bumped to pro, and you never know who someone could become one da, maybe a BA, Elissa or the likes, and I sure as fuck bet everyone thinks skateboarding is better with them then without them.
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why is your snowflake ass whining about them not following the guidelines? Did they *in reality* not follow guidelines? I bet they did. I bet you're just in your feelings because people you don't know are learning to skate. Grow a pair of ovaries bro.
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Quit your crying snowflake.
Look at reality: most of these skate meet ups that are women/queer/trans focused happen during times of days when parks aren't that crowded, from my experience. If you can even name a time when you've been "marginalized" at a skatepark by some non cis-het-males then I guarantee that's the exception and not the rule.
Anyone who wants to learn how to skate should be able to feel comfortable at a skate park. I agree with one of the posters earlier, as a cis-het-non-white-male-bro even I felt uncomfortable at skateparks as a kid because of weird vibes people put out. If I was a woman or gay or trans then I'm pretty sure there's a high chance I'd feel even more vibes.
Even beginners should be able to feel good and have fun at the park. Should everyone, including newbs and queer/trans/women, learn the basics of park rules? Yep. And most of the Skate Like A Girl/Unity type groups that I've interacted with teach those as basics.
Anyone whining and crying like a little baby about this should go find a safe space to cry in, or just suck it up and realize that there's always room to learn more about something that you'er passionate about. In this case, it's OK to admit that you didn't realize that skating felt exclusive and required all these groups forming to make it more inclusive.
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On a separate note, I do think that the caption for that IG post advertising the skate meet up is wack. Still, I recognize it's being hyperbolic *and* it even invites people to come in the last part of the last sentence. So, am I bent out of shape about it? No. Would I write it in that way? Yes. But it's nothing to whine and cry about. Re-phrase it if you're all bent out of shape and post your alternative phrasing rather than be a little snowflake about it.
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
this meet up is literally in the middle of the day. anyone who wants to skate a public skatepark should be able to without guidlelines set forth on them by a bunch of posers (and ya simple guidlines like don't linger in the bottom of the bowl are valid). and these chicks are literally whining that they didn't get the red carpet treatment by the skate community therefore they're attempting to turn a public skatepark into their own safe space just for them. you dumb
you're making no sense dude. i can't even understand what you're trying to argue. your *in reality* just making my point more valid. just shut up and stop quoting me. you're a poser.
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These groups are fun because I can go and be horrible and nobody cares that I suck. Gives me some sort of ego boost. Plus, the kids are really sweet, helping each other learn to drop in or ollie. It's fucking endearing.
I love watching people get a thrill out of rolling off a curb...so much more exciting than watching some bro squeal and throw his board because he can't land a nollie flip down a six set or something.
Also *Simpsons gif where the old man comes in and hangs his hat, then turns around, grabs his hat and leaves*
if i was forced to bail a nollie flip because a rogue birkenstock sandal that fell off one of these hoes feet got in my way i would be doing a lot more than just squealing like a stuck pig. bunch a posers i tell you.
I was going to post a snarky response, but the rogue birkenstock thing made me laugh. Next time I'll leave my sandals at home.
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These groups are fun because I can go and be horrible and nobody cares that I suck. Gives me some sort of ego boost. Plus, the kids are really sweet, helping each other learn to drop in or ollie. It's fucking endearing.
I love watching people get a thrill out of rolling off a curb...so much more exciting than watching some bro squeal and throw his board because he can't land a nollie flip down a six set or something.
Also *Simpsons gif where the old man comes in and hangs his hat, then turns around, grabs his hat and leaves*
if i was forced to bail a nollie flip because a rogue birkenstock sandal that fell off one of these hoes feet got in my way i would be doing a lot more than just squealing like a stuck pig. bunch a posers i tell you.
I was going to post a snarky response, but the rogue birkenstock thing made me laugh. Next time I'll leave my sandals at home.
i have no gripe with the lgbt community, but if i show up to my local park ready to shred and I'm turned away by a bunch of pac sun posers because i happen to have a cock in my pants then there will be hell to pay.
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These groups are fun because I can go and be horrible and nobody cares that I suck. Gives me some sort of ego boost. Plus, the kids are really sweet, helping each other learn to drop in or ollie. It's fucking endearing.
I love watching people get a thrill out of rolling off a curb...so much more exciting than watching some bro squeal and throw his board because he can't land a nollie flip down a six set or something.
Also *Simpsons gif where the old man comes in and hangs his hat, then turns around, grabs his hat and leaves*
if i was forced to bail a nollie flip because a rogue birkenstock sandal that fell off one of these hoes feet got in my way i would be doing a lot more than just squealing like a stuck pig. bunch a posers i tell you.
I was going to post a snarky response, but the rogue birkenstock thing made me laugh. Next time I'll leave my sandals at home.
i have no gripe with the lgbt community, but if i show up to my local park ready to shred and I'm turned away by a bunch of pac sun posers because i happen to have a cock in my pants then there will be hell to pay.
And until then there will be hell to pay on Slap?
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These groups are fun because I can go and be horrible and nobody cares that I suck. Gives me some sort of ego boost. Plus, the kids are really sweet, helping each other learn to drop in or ollie. It's fucking endearing.
I love watching people get a thrill out of rolling off a curb...so much more exciting than watching some bro squeal and throw his board because he can't land a nollie flip down a six set or something.
Also *Simpsons gif where the old man comes in and hangs his hat, then turns around, grabs his hat and leaves*
if i was forced to bail a nollie flip because a rogue birkenstock sandal that fell off one of these hoes feet got in my way i would be doing a lot more than just squealing like a stuck pig. bunch a posers i tell you.
I was going to post a snarky response, but the rogue birkenstock thing made me laugh. Next time I'll leave my sandals at home.
i have no gripe with the lgbt community, but if i show up to my local park ready to shred and I'm turned away by a bunch of pac sun posers because i happen to have a cock in my pants then there will be hell to pay.
Hey pal, I'll never turn you away on the basis of the fact that you have a cock in your pants.
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These groups are fun because I can go and be horrible and nobody cares that I suck. Gives me some sort of ego boost. Plus, the kids are really sweet, helping each other learn to drop in or ollie. It's fucking endearing.
I love watching people get a thrill out of rolling off a curb...so much more exciting than watching some bro squeal and throw his board because he can't land a nollie flip down a six set or something.
Also *Simpsons gif where the old man comes in and hangs his hat, then turns around, grabs his hat and leaves*
if i was forced to bail a nollie flip because a rogue birkenstock sandal that fell off one of these hoes feet got in my way i would be doing a lot more than just squealing like a stuck pig. bunch a posers i tell you.
I was going to post a snarky response, but the rogue birkenstock thing made me laugh. Next time I'll leave my sandals at home.
i have no gripe with the lgbt community, but if i show up to my local park ready to shred and I'm turned away by a bunch of pac sun posers because i happen to have a cock in my pants then there will be hell to pay.
Hey pal, I'll never turn you away on the basis of the fact that you have a cock in your pants.
Gay even encourages it!
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I can't use rational thought to form a valid argument so I'm going to revert to tarring people with stereotypical preconceptions even though that is what I'm attempting to rally against.
This thread.
I gave you multiple posts of valid arguments. Of which, you never gave me a single valid response other than calling me an idiot, repeating what I said back to me, and telling me that I was making this political. You really think I want this to be a political issue? All I was advocating for is for these kids to have their time and space to learn the ins and outs of skating. Bottom line. All you have done is write me boring ad hominem responses.
Maybe you should go back and read what I said and then we can reach a middle ground. Or just keep up the douchy contrarianism. No skin off my back.
I'm all for finding middle ground so how about you PM me and we can reach it. The ad hominem stuff is coming from your side too (my perception vs your perception). I too think everyone should have a time and space to enjoy skateboarding so I'd like to squash this but I still maintain that your argument thus far has not been "valid" and that you have made it political. I will be the first person to climb down from something that is brought to my attention. Your last response was ad hominem if most of these arguments only from the side of the minority which does not make it more valid. Let's do this because I firmly believe we can sing from the same hymn sheet.
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i think its great that they are trying to make a space for themselves and i wish them well that being said I just want to remind everyone that that after i get out of work tomorrow the park is reserved for overweight Pisces who just got out of work dressed in business casual attire and land less than 1/10 kick-flips... maybe a few of their friends if they can come. sorry for the inconvenience. please give money to my mom.
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Let's do this because I firmly believe we can sing from the same HIM sheet.
FTFY, you can thank me later.
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I can't use rational thought to form a valid argument so I'm going to revert to tarring people with stereotypical preconceptions even though that is what I'm attempting to rally against.
This thread.
I gave you multiple posts of valid arguments. Of which, you never gave me a single valid response other than calling me an idiot, repeating what I said back to me, and telling me that I was making this political. You really think I want this to be a political issue? All I was advocating for is for these kids to have their time and space to learn the ins and outs of skating. Bottom line. All you have done is write me boring ad hominem responses.
Maybe you should go back and read what I said and then we can reach a middle ground. Or just keep up the douchy contrarianism. No skin off my back.
All right, good shit. Sorry I have been really defensive, this issue has a lot of personal feelings associated with it. Anyways, as far as the political aspect of it goes, here's the thing. The lgbtq community does not want to politicize their lives, but its the pushback from the right wing that has made it so. Take the Stonewall riots for example. All the queer and trans folk were happy living their lives quartered at the Stonewall inn, but the police came in and do what police do. The brutality faced by the community rendered a political response which helped fire up the liberation movement and so on and so forth.
As far as modern times goes, the lgbtq community has faced a lot of scrutiny from the over saturation of hateful rhetoric to classify all queer and trans people as SJW's. While that is a small minority, we all get lumped into that radicalized faction. LGBTQ people, at the end of the day, just want to live their lives and assimilate with the populace. And while this queer skate group has said some inflamatory things regarding white, cis men, they do deserve a space to assimilate to our culture. I know that sounds counter intuitive, to start a seperate group to assimiate with the broader whole. But to me it's just the first step to be involved with skateboarding in general. And if they are going to kook it out and not be friendly to others, then they need to rethink their values and the mission of their cause or find a new hobby. But we gotta give them a chance to grow and not just immediatly write them off.
so now im the only asshole thats upset about this. the posers are taking over and you guys are all too fucking blind to see it. it all started with the thrasher tees and now we're losing our skate spots one quarter pipe at a time. i may sound like a street corner apocalyptic preacher but a few years from now when you're forced to skate nothing more than a flatbar in your driveway you'll think to yourself "man Jeff Groucho was right".
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you'll think to yourself "man Jeff Groucho sucks"
why'd you take down that clip of yourself skating to a sound bite of yourself rapping? shit was dope
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im gay
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I don't get how labeling/generalizing straight guys who skate in a negative light and basically letting them know "Your not in our group, but if you want to be try these things:..." makes anyone want to be a part of your group? It will only lead to more people not wanting to be involved with you. IDK what kind of parks these ladies are hanging out at but skaters tend to encourage people who arent "cis males" to keep skating because it is cool to see diversity. The angle CNN takes in this article is everything that is wrong with the world today. Obviously no one wants to be labeled unless its positive, so they just resort to labeling everyone else? what happened to being the better person? come on. Un productive anger fest at its finest. Also, not paying a black woman for her time unless she is providing a service. It might be construed as racist if i walked down the street with cash and started offering it only to black women saying "Im paying you for your time..." HA. especially Beach Blvd.
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I can't use rational thought to form a valid argument so I'm going to revert to tarring people with stereotypical preconceptions even though that is what I'm attempting to rally against.
This thread.
I gave you multiple posts of valid arguments. Of which, you never gave me a single valid response other than calling me an idiot, repeating what I said back to me, and telling me that I was making this political. You really think I want this to be a political issue? All I was advocating for is for these kids to have their time and space to learn the ins and outs of skating. Bottom line. All you have done is write me boring ad hominem responses.
Maybe you should go back and read what I said and then we can reach a middle ground. Or just keep up the douchy contrarianism. No skin off my back.
All right, good shit. Sorry I have been really defensive, this issue has a lot of personal feelings associated with it. Anyways, as far as the political aspect of it goes, here's the thing. The lgbtq community does not want to politicize their lives, but its the pushback from the right wing that has made it so. Take the Stonewall riots for example. All the queer and trans folk were happy living their lives quartered at the Stonewall inn, but the police came in and do what police do. The brutality faced by the community rendered a political response which helped fire up the liberation movement and so on and so forth.
As far as modern times goes, the lgbtq community has faced a lot of scrutiny from the over saturation of hateful rhetoric to classify all queer and trans people as SJW's. While that is a small minority, we all get lumped into that radicalized faction. LGBTQ people, at the end of the day, just want to live their lives and assimilate with the populace. And while this queer skate group has said some inflamatory things regarding white, cis men, they do deserve a space to assimilate to our culture. I know that sounds counter intuitive, to start a seperate group to assimiate with the broader whole. But to me it's just the first step to be involved with skateboarding in general. And if they are going to kook it out and not be friendly to others, then they need to rethink their values and the mission of their cause or find a new hobby. But we gotta give them a chance to grow and not just immediatly write them off.
so now im the only asshole thats upset about this. the posers are taking over and you guys are all too fucking blind to see it. it all started with the thrasher tees and now we're losing our skate spots one quarter pipe at a time. i may sound like a street corner apocalyptic preacher but a few years from now when you're forced to skate nothing more than a flatbar in your driveway you'll think to yourself "man Jeff Groucho was right".
Has there every been an instance where a beginner skater hasn't been labeled a poser when they first start skating? I know I sure was. I was a mongo pushing dork that probably mall grabbed and stuck out like a sore thumb. I'm sure you had to learn the inns and outs too and were just as much a poser as we all were starting off. Let the kids learn and lets not get out the pitchforks and try and kook them out of the park.
I think its very hard to grow up in the current permanent record of social media that remains the current social currency cast upon the youth. You can't be a kid anymore because now everything is made public record to be stripped apart and analyzed by their peers and adults. I'm very happy that I didn't grow up in this age where every misguided action of my adolescent fuckups were shared on the internet. So yes, the whole pay black women for their time is a pretty misguided statement. But they are impressionable kids and I have faith that they will grow out of their apathy.
i agree these kids are terribly misguided and its modern society thats misguiding them. i would never kook someone out of a park, but thats exactly what these girls are trying to put off in their post. "your only welcome if" and for the record i was never a poser, i was ollieing by day 2, the first video i ever saw and owned was Trilogy and i loved sam devlin skating to jesus lizard (that heavy bass line). i was fucking cool from day one.
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what is most remarkable to me are 3 things:
1. this is the real mainstream news media. not vice, not espn, not pitchfork, this is cnn.
2. cnn basically ripped off the article that was posted on free skate mag last week. rewrote the entire story as if they discovered it.
3. cnn used the skate nazis to make skateboarding look bad. jay adams and jason jessee were both referenced by name in this article and will from now on be what the mainstream will point to and say "look at skateboarding, this is it"
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I can't use rational thought to form a valid argument so I'm going to revert to tarring people with stereotypical preconceptions even though that is what I'm attempting to rally against.
This thread.
I gave you multiple posts of valid arguments. Of which, you never gave me a single valid response other than calling me an idiot, repeating what I said back to me, and telling me that I was making this political. You really think I want this to be a political issue? All I was advocating for is for these kids to have their time and space to learn the ins and outs of skating. Bottom line. All you have done is write me boring ad hominem responses.
Maybe you should go back and read what I said and then we can reach a middle ground. Or just keep up the douchy contrarianism. No skin off my back.
All right, good shit. Sorry I have been really defensive, this issue has a lot of personal feelings associated with it. Anyways, as far as the political aspect of it goes, here's the thing. The lgbtq community does not want to politicize their lives, but its the pushback from the right wing that has made it so. Take the Stonewall riots for example. All the queer and trans folk were happy living their lives quartered at the Stonewall inn, but the police came in and do what police do. The brutality faced by the community rendered a political response which helped fire up the liberation movement and so on and so forth.
As far as modern times goes, the lgbtq community has faced a lot of scrutiny from the over saturation of hateful rhetoric to classify all queer and trans people as SJW's. While that is a small minority, we all get lumped into that radicalized faction. LGBTQ people, at the end of the day, just want to live their lives and assimilate with the populace. And while this queer skate group has said some inflamatory things regarding white, cis men, they do deserve a space to assimilate to our culture. I know that sounds counter intuitive, to start a seperate group to assimiate with the broader whole. But to me it's just the first step to be involved with skateboarding in general. And if they are going to kook it out and not be friendly to others, then they need to rethink their values and the mission of their cause or find a new hobby. But we gotta give them a chance to grow and not just immediatly write them off.
so now im the only asshole thats upset about this. the posers are taking over and you guys are all too fucking blind to see it. it all started with the thrasher tees and now we're losing our skate spots one quarter pipe at a time. i may sound like a street corner apocalyptic preacher but a few years from now when you're forced to skate nothing more than a flatbar in your driveway you'll think to yourself "man Jeff Groucho was right".
Has there every been an instance where a beginner skater hasn't been labeled a poser when they first start skating? I know I sure was. I was a mongo pushing dork that probably mall grabbed and stuck out like a sore thumb. I'm sure you had to learn the inns and outs too and were just as much a poser as we all were starting off. Let the kids learn and lets not get out the pitchforks and try and kook them out of the park.
I think its very hard to grow up in the current permanent record of social media that remains the current social currency cast upon the youth. You can't be a kid anymore because now everything is made public record to be stripped apart and analyzed by their peers and adults. I'm very happy that I didn't grow up in this age where every misguided action of my adolescent fuckups were shared on the internet. So yes, the whole pay black women for their time is a pretty misguided statement. But they are impressionable kids and I have faith that they will grow out of their apathy.
i agree these kids are terribly misguided and its modern society thats misguiding them. i would never kook someone out of a park, but thats exactly what these girls are trying to put off in their post. "your only welcome if" and for the record i was never a poser, i was ollieing by day 2, the first video i ever saw and owned was Trilogy and i loved sam devlin skating to jesus lizard (that heavy bass line). i was fucking cool from day one.
Eh, you kinda lost me with that last part. I don't think you should feel more superior and more deserving of skating at a park because other people didn't meet your personal metric of coolness vs. poserness. I think you are kinda playing into this idea that this is happening in every park across in America and that these people are coming in and taking away a space you acclimated yourself in. And I understand the overall frustration of your outlook. Its always unnerving when newcomers enter your space that you have devoted so much time to and love to. But I also think that they deserve the opportunity to get hooked into skating just as much as anyone else. And if that necessitates building community to feel comfortable enough to learn the basics, then that's perfectly fine.
skateparks are to be shared, poser or not. just don't let me see you wearing birkenstocks or else my board is flying at your ankle.
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slap brought to its knees by a random instagram post by a girl who can barely ollie
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
thank god your kind is losing and there is nothing you can do about it.
nope. i would love nothing more for these chicks to skate where ever they please and continue to do so and have fun. but if they stand by the caption in that IG post then they would have preferred that I not be there skating the park with them that day. fuck that i won't let them oppress me. ill skate wherever and whenever i damn please and i don't need to put up a cock up my ass to do so.
Maybe just try it sometime?
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
thank god your kind is losing and there is nothing you can do about it.
nope. i would love nothing more for these chicks to skate where ever they please and continue to do so and have fun. but if they stand by the caption in that IG post then they would have preferred that I not be there skating the park with them that day. fuck that i won't let them oppress me. ill skate wherever and whenever i damn please and i don't need to put up a cock up my ass to do so.
Maybe just try it sometime?
Agreed...would definitely help you relax a bit and not be so upset about everything all the time, Groucho.
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I don’t get why wanting to be accepted as who you are gets people who aren’t that way so angry. I mean the vast majority of the people on slap I’m guessing are over 18 because of the level of history most know on here. The sport is mainly made up of people under 18 tho, and for those who skate in anywhere not on the east coast/West Coast you have that whole honor culture thing going on with adolescence(if you all are actually interested go read up on honor cultures, it will teach you a lot, its what most misinformed people label as toxic masculinity, which is bullshit interpretation in every way). I’ve heard numerous kids at parks across the country openly hate on the gay skaters that come to the park, and in general believe gay people shouldn’t be apart of the culture or skate because gay people just make skateboarding look less mainly. last park I went to I actually heard a 16 year old scream at the top of his lungs all gay people should be killed, and he wasn’t being ironic. I’ve seen gay skaters get shamed not only at parks but within our own industry. If y’all want to be assholes to people, go fucking ahead, but know who you all basically seem like by association from even gauging the topic from a non-inviting perspective. gay people have it fucking rough in most places across the United States not on the coasts, so I can understand if those living in the coast bubbles have no fucking clue.
I don’t even feel as bad for gay skaters as I do for women skaters. If you have ever seen 4-5 women at a skatepark at once, listen to what people say sometime about them. Most of the time in my experience people generally say the best girl is the one that’s best looking, not the best skater, and then they try to back it up with oh but style. I can for a fact say that there are numerous male skaters who are ugly as fuck that have unbelievable style(McCrank, Silas, Mariano, etc.), and obviously you have the Dylans and BAs, but it’s not like male skaters are judged on how good they look, they are judged on how cool they look for lack of a better word.
Also people getting upset about using fucking pronouns or calling people what they want to be called fuck right off. You should treat people how you wanted to be treated, and I assume you want people to call you by your name instead of whitey or blackey or something more derogatory. How do people get upset of the pronoun thing so much? We as a culture recognized it was wrong to call black people the n word, and all types of other social advancements of our language. Our fucking society has advanced to a point where we just don’t do those things anymore, so anyone who thinks white people shouldnt say the n word yet get pissed about the pronoun game, again, can fuck right off.
I just don’t understand how a fucking culture of outcasts can dog on minorities so much. Smh. I mean I get how much the black race hates gay people far more then white people do(if you don’t believe me go look up prop 8 voter statistics on race for just a small example, again honor cultures). At the end of the day go treat people well, and get as many people stoked on skating because it just helps us all. It gives the industry more money, which helps promote the riders you want to be bumped to pro, and you never know who someone could become one da, maybe a BA, Elissa or the likes, and I sure as fuck bet everyone thinks skateboarding is better with them then without them.
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just because you can push and stand on a skateboard does not make you a skateboarder and certainly doesn't give you the right to commandeer a skatepark and tell straight male skateboarders that they're not welcome unless they go and adhere to a checklist of social duties laid forth by you. my dad can stand on a board and roll. is he a skateboarder? fuck no. these chicks are baffled why they got vibed at a park by real skateboards. I'm guessing its because your all hanging out on the flat bottom of the fucking bowl taking pictures for your instagram. they might as well be riding scooters. this is total appropriation of skateboarding. these girls belong in some backwood parking garage with gentle jones riding curbs.
thank god your kind is losing and there is nothing you can do about it.
nope. i would love nothing more for these chicks to skate where ever they please and continue to do so and have fun. but if they stand by the caption in that IG post then they would have preferred that I not be there skating the park with them that day. fuck that i won't let them oppress me. ill skate wherever and whenever i damn please and i don't need to put up a cock up my ass to do so.
Maybe just try it sometime?
Agreed...would definitely help you relax a bit and not be so upset about everything all the time, Groucho.
pretending to be a skateboarder is one thing, pretending to be gay is a whole other can of worms. i would never appropriate your culture. you're a good person.
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Does anyone else feel like they missed the memo with the LBGTQ? Maybe as a cis male who always assumed he paid black women for their time, it went over my head. :-\
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you appropriate pediphile culture w/ that mustache
just popping in to say thanks for the new sig.
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Does anyone else feel like they missed the memo with the LBGTQ? Maybe as a cis male who always assumed he paid black women for their time, it went over my head. :-\
Download Beyonce’s music from iTunes. Don’t torrent it.
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I only discriminate based on your approach to nose grinds, do you prefer going straight on, or do them proper and go from the side?
If you're trying to ban, or shame people for showing up to a public park because they don't fit into your group identity, well then I can't get behind that, and you're creating enemies where you could be making allies.
"Almost every time I go to the skate park, people are so shocked to see a girl that skates," she told CNN. I don't believe you, and i'm not saying that to discredit this person, i just feel like they needed something to say to CNN that would be quote worthy. Has anyone seen this firsthand? I mostly feel indifference to the majority of people at the skatepark who I don't know. Is this what people mean when they say they don't feel accepted? If it is, here is my advice to you, if you're showing up to a park, and the same locals are there all the time, you're going to have to be the one to make the effort to being, "accepted". Unless of course you rip, and then it's a lot easier to gain the respect of your peers.
I do like the aspect of giving all your old stuff to kids trying to get into skating who don't have the means to get it for themselves since skateboarding is the best escape from the drudgery of existence.
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I only discriminate based on your approach to nose grinds, do you prefer going straight on, or do them proper and go from the side?
If you're trying to ban, or shame people for showing up to a public park because they don't fit into your group identity, well then I can't get behind that, and you're creating enemies where you could be making allies.
"Almost every time I go to the skate park, people are so shocked to see a girl that skates," she told CNN. I don't believe you, and i'm not saying that to discredit this person, i just feel like they needed something to say to CNN that would be quote worthy. Has anyone seen this firsthand? I mostly feel indifference to the majority of people at the skatepark who I don't know. Is this what people mean when they say they don't feel accepted? If it is, here is my advice to you, if you're showing up to a park, and the same locals are there all the time, you're going to have to be the one to make the effort to being, "accepted". Unless of course you rip, and then it's a lot easier to gain the respect of your peers.
I do like the aspect of giving all your old stuff to kids trying to get into skating who don't have the means to get it for themselves since skateboarding is the best escape from the drudgery of existence.
I know that personally when I see a girl skater I scream and hold my hand to my throat, my eyes bulging out, fanning myself with my other hand, my throat unable to form words. Everybody else is doing the same thing too.
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Okay the nosegrind comparison brings it back to the real issue: What, if anything, are they doing on ledges?
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I only discriminate based on your approach to nose grinds, do you prefer going straight on, or do them proper and go from the side?
If you're trying to ban, or shame people for showing up to a public park because they don't fit into your group identity, well then I can't get behind that, and you're creating enemies where you could be making allies.
"Almost every time I go to the skate park, people are so shocked to see a girl that skates," she told CNN. I don't believe you, and i'm not saying that to discredit this person, i just feel like they needed something to say to CNN that would be quote worthy. Has anyone seen this firsthand? I mostly feel indifference to the majority of people at the skatepark who I don't know. Is this what people mean when they say they don't feel accepted? If it is, here is my advice to you, if you're showing up to a park, and the same locals are there all the time, you're going to have to be the one to make the effort to being, "accepted". Unless of course you rip, and then it's a lot easier to gain the respect of your peers.
I do like the aspect of giving all your old stuff to kids trying to get into skating who don't have the means to get it for themselves since skateboarding is the best escape from the drudgery of existence.
Yeah, feel like a lot of this was based on misinterpreting the normal awkwardness of a beginner going to skateparks as vibing for your gender or sexuality. And it's pretty understandable that one would think so if they're being paranoid about that stuff in the first place. It's hard for a beginner to realize why they're getting shitty looks when practicing stationary ollies at the wrong place.
These types of groups popping up is a good thing if they're felt necessary. Excluding the people you're trying to get included by is dumb but who cares.
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Okay the nosegrind comparison brings it back to the real issue: What, if anything, are they doing on ledges?
Homosexuals and women chomp ledges like ducks chomp water.
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They only produced this article because LGBTQ is the flavor of the month/year and at the time BA was highlighted so they attempted to be relevant, forget about this article.
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Okay the nosegrind comparison brings it back to the real issue: What, if anything, are they doing on ledges?
Gobbing mad salad grinds, of course.
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I only discriminate based on your approach to nose grinds, do you prefer going straight on, or do them proper and go from the side?
If you're trying to ban, or shame people for showing up to a public park because they don't fit into your group identity, well then I can't get behind that, and you're creating enemies where you could be making allies.
"Almost every time I go to the skate park, people are so shocked to see a girl that skates," she told CNN. I don't believe you, and i'm not saying that to discredit this person, i just feel like they needed something to say to CNN that would be quote worthy. Has anyone seen this firsthand? I mostly feel indifference to the majority of people at the skatepark who I don't know. Is this what people mean when they say they don't feel accepted? If it is, here is my advice to you, if you're showing up to a park, and the same locals are there all the time, you're going to have to be the one to make the effort to being, "accepted". Unless of course you rip, and then it's a lot easier to gain the respect of your peers.
I do like the aspect of giving all your old stuff to kids trying to get into skating who don't have the means to get it for themselves since skateboarding is the best escape from the drudgery of existence.
Except when the locals suck and feel the need to gatekeep and vibe out anyone who don't fit into their image. The locals at my local park spend 80% of the time smoking and drinking while taking up space sitting on the ledge and 20% of the time trying to backside flip the pyramid and not come even remotely close to landing it. They also love to leave their trash everywhere and throw old tv's into the bowl because they won't/can't skate it. Not every local at your local park deserves respect.
Just hit the streets. It's better.