Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)

[Amocat]

Picked up a set of the 8.75 hollows and have probably skated 7 or 8 hours on them over the weekend pretty much all mini ramp. The TL:DR would be that I like them and will continue to skate them.

For those more into details here we go.

Wheel bite/bushing/washer, I’m 210 and stock bushings did not wheel bite while putting full weight on heel side or toe side. I did have the same washer digging into the bushing issue others have mentioned, I swapped out to a mini logo top washer, they are a bit flatter but still slightly cupped. These did not dig in but there was a bit of the bushing that would slip out so I had to go to a harder bushing. Mini logo bushings are a very close match to the stock ones but I ended up taking my Indy bushings and sticking them in. I was on 144 standard Indy with the yellow 96 bushings with the nut just flush on the kingpin, I had to go to 1 thread showing on the slappy to have it feel about the same. Probably from the jump from 8.25 to 8.75 maybe. Wheels for messing with the bushings were 53mm F4 classics and 56mm nano cubics on 8.5 crail twin.

Grind, it felt like the slappy were going fine on the coping pretty early in the day, I swear it took a few days on the Indy to feel the same, could have been skill issue as I had just gotten back to skating with the Indy though. Either way these are so far comparable to the Indys, I can’t say better yet but definitely not worse on mini. I did grind a few of the ledges, they are that American ramp company style that’s just two flat pieces that meet, definitely felt better on those.

Pop, it is possible that the jump from the 8.25 to 8.75 has more to do than switching trucks but just an Ollie felt slightly better with the Slappy, also possible a just spent 60$ placebo effect.

Turn, once I had the Indy bushings on and correct tightness I honestly couldn’t tell a huge difference in the actual turn other than perhaps smoother.

Look, I was a bit worried changing to a different truck would look weird to me when looking at my board, but these look like they belong on my board. This may be ridiculous but I know there are others that have these thoughts too.

Pivot cup was lubed so no squeaky squeaky

Also the logo being sharp enough to cut you is real.

[Xen]

^^ are they the new forged hollows? Sinclair mentioned updating the washers eventually, curious if that made it into this revision or not.

[Amocat]

I don’t think they are newer stock, sounded like these had been sitting for quite some time from the shop guy.

[Xen]

Got my slappy lights. They are, indeed, lighter!

Looks like the baseplate also has the shaft nut like the rest.


I'm having issues with the stock setup (which I did not have with the IKP hollow 8.75s I've got) as I cannot seem to tighten them down enough to get them as tight as I would want (so much so that I thought I was digging the pin into the deck but wasn't); I think either the top bushing is too low or there is not enough thread on the pin itself to actually get tight. It feels I'm bottoming out the pin into the nut as I physically cannot tighten them anymore.



I swapped out for some 96a indys and was able to A) get them tighter and B) not get to the point where they were feeling like they were bottoming out..but now I'm concerned how much pin I have engaged since I can't see the threads.

Two other issues:

I had already started to shred the top bushings after a ONE 1HR session....lame AF. You can see the dig/bulge on the left and the straggle piece on the right:


One of the trucks is waaaaaaaay harder to tighten down than the other it's not stripped but it sort of feels like that feeling; maybe one of the pins or plates isn't machined up to par.

But, as it is, with the indy bushings in, they turn/feel great, grind amazing and most excellent pop feel....gonna take them off just for OCDs sake to make sure they're at least nut flush.

Edit: working through the issues with them, they're being super helpful - excellent CS. I took the trucks off and I'm nut flush now (I was a bit more than nut flush with the stocks, like 3 threads or so) so I'm guessing it's just that I want them tighter than the stock bushings allow given how soft they are and how low that top bushing is.

[finecojeffe]

I have some 8.75 inverted kp hollow slappy's and i cannot tighten them from stock, only loosen. It's bottomed out from the start. It's odd. Is it normal for these trucks, or do I have a defective pair? I have a pair of the standard kp slappy trucks, same size and really liked them so figured the IKP would be nice. Looks like I'll have to swap the top bushing as it presently is a little loose. Apologies if this has been discussed, I went back a few pages but didnt see.

[moonordie]

Idk why people keep trying IKP. Never heard of anything good, only issues.

[Xen]

I have some 8.75 inverted kp hollow slappy's and i cannot tighten them from stock, only loosen. It's bottomed out from the start. It's odd. Is it normal for these trucks, or do I have a defective pair? I have a pair of the standard kp slappy trucks, same size and really liked them so figured the IKP would be nice. Looks like I'll have to swap the top bushing as it presently is a little loose. Apologies if this has been discussed, I went back a few pages but didnt see.

@finecojeffe Both trucks?

I had a similar issue in that I couldn't tighten them past a certain point (see above post); there could be two issues:

1) Bushings: you are trying to tighten them more than they allow. The bottoms are venture/indy height but the top is very low and I'm guessing there isn't enough thread to crush them down more.

2) Is it both trucks? Are these new? Could be a defect on the pin or in the plate (something not milled correctly).

My solution was to put in harder bushings that were also had a taller top bushing (indy blue 92s) solved the issue no problem. Note that this happened on the NEW forged plated ones, not on the old cast IKP...which is weird since A) the bushings are the same and B) the plate height is the same...I was not bothered to check the kingpins for comparisons as I traded the IKP trucks that worked stock.

Reach out to them on Insta, they were very responsive and offered up a few solutions.

[finecojeffe]

Both trucks?

2) Is it both trucks? Are these new? Could be a defect on the pin or in the plate (something not milled correctly).

My solution was to put in harder bushings that were also had a taller top bushing (indy blue 92s) solved the issue no problem. Note that this happened on the NEW forged plated ones, not on the old cast IKP...which is weird since A) the bushings are the same and B) the plate height is the same...I was not bothered to check the kingpins for comparisons as I traded the IKP trucks that worked stock.

Reach out to them on Insta, they were very responsive and offered up a few solutions.

I only checked one truck because I got them yesterday and set them up late last night, so I don't know if it's both at the moment. They are brand new. I'll check when I get home from work today, and also see if a different top bushing will work. One thing I did notice is they had zero give, meaning the kingpin seemed to run out of threads maybe, so it seemed like that could be the cause.

[Xen]

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Both trucks?

2) Is it both trucks? Are these new? Could be a defect on the pin or in the plate (something not milled correctly).

My solution was to put in harder bushings that were also had a taller top bushing (indy blue 92s) solved the issue no problem. Note that this happened on the NEW forged plated ones, not on the old cast IKP...which is weird since A) the bushings are the same and B) the plate height is the same...I was not bothered to check the kingpins for comparisons as I traded the IKP trucks that worked stock.

Reach out to them on Insta, they were very responsive and offered up a few solutions.

[close]

I only checked one truck because I got them yesterday and set them up late last night, so I don't know if it's both at the moment. They are brand new. I'll check when I get home from work today, and also see if a different top bushing will work. One thing I did notice is they had zero give, meaning the kingpin seemed to run out of threads maybe, so it seemed like that could be the cause.

These are the regular cast, not forged, versions?

[finecojeffe]

These are the regular cast, not forged, versions?

yeah, the cast hollow

[finecojeffe]

went home yesterday and checked the other truck and it was also bottomed out. I honestly don't know it my set came with either extra short top bushings, a kingpin that didn't have enough thread cut in, or a combination of the two...or if it's exactly as designed. I've only had the standard slappy trucks before this so I can't compare it to anything, nor have I even come across the IKP versions in person before. Anyway I sent a message to their insta and they replied quickly. It was suggested by them to try a harder bushing rather than a taller one, so I went with the boned hard and it seemed to work out fine enough. I think it's roughly close in height to the stock bushing. However I did try the ace top bushing, which is a lot taller, and I think it feels better, but I'll stick with slappy's suggestion for the time being though to see if I can get used to it quickly. I'm sure it will be fine.