All the stuff from Otaku’s 2017 Thread.Expand QuoteI know there is already a woodshop thread, but this seems like it could be helpful. I'll try to keep it updated, so feel free to contribute or correct, plus I cant remember any from pennswood or SC... I know scum.co is in there somewhere?
edit: I'll put an asterisk* beside companies using 2 or more
P.S. Stix:
FA/Hockey*
Welcome
917*
Habitat*
Quasi
Wknd
Toy Machine*
Lifeblood
Plan B
Element* (until mid 2018)
Pizza
Snack
Foundation(pro models)
Meow
Numbers*
Vagrant
Flip* (NA)
Street Plant
Paisley
Western Addition
Scum Co.*
Thank You
Dog Town
Tired
New Deal* Reimagined
BBS(bareback/generator):
DLX Brands
Baker
Alien Workshop
Polar
Magenta
Primitive
Alltimers
Habitat*
FA/Hockey*
Deathwish
Heroin
Isle
Black Label
Birdhouse
Theories
Toy Machine*
Sk8Mafia
DGK
$lave
The Killing Floor
Hook-Ups/JK Industries
Traffic
Pass-Port
Frog
Scram
917*
Doom Sayers
Hoddle
Love.Sick
Zero*
Blood Wizard
Numbers*
Carpet Co.
Element* 2018+
April
Hopps 2019+
Meridian* (mainly done at Clutch)
TERROR OF PLANET X * 2019+
Unity
Dwindle(DSM):
Enjoi
Santa Cruz
Almost
Darkstar
Blind
Palace
Creature
Flip?
Evisen
Skateboard Cafe(rumored to be moving to HLC)
Zero* (EU/Asia)
Globe
FUCT
Madness
New Deal* Reissues
Control:
Studio
Birch
Scum Co.* (logo decks 2018)
Pennswood:
American Nomad
Scum Co.* (logo decks 2019+)
Coda
Lovenskate
Play!
DNA
South Central:
Bacon
Dieta
Vacation
Politic
Northern Co.*
5boro
D.O.A
Morning Bell
Weird Wood
Super 8
Chapman:
Zoo York
Supreme
Adult Inc
Quincy:
Lurkvillie
Space Program
TERROR OF PLANET X* -2018
Jart(HLC):
Sk8Mafia(Europe)
Jart
Cruzade
Sour
Habitat(Europe)
Flip(Europe)
The National Skateboard Co.
SOVRN(Europe)
Watson:
Stereo(re-issue)
Blockhead
Assault
Prime:
Fixer
Dead-End
Stereo
Blue
Shorty's
Clutch:
Lewis Cruise
Brujaria
Program
Northern Co.* (2018+)
Visit
Raw Dog
Hotel Blue
Meridian*
Fixer
Dailan Huahong(China):
Chocolate
Girl
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)
Foundation?
Alien Workshop* (Euro/price point boards?)
Plan B* (Euro/price point boards?)
Element* (Euro/price point boards?)
Woodchuck
Pure
Finesse
Death[close]
How can you tell if a Hockey deck is PS wood or BBS wood?
Expand QuoteHow can you tell if a Hockey deck is PS wood or BBS wood?[close]
The warning sticker is what I look at first, but if you bought it recently then it's probably BBS. The sticker that was on all my bbs hockey/FA decks is black and white while the one PS uses is red and white and a little bigger.
Also, I don't remember if this applies to Hockey/FA but usually PS decks have a laser-etched serial number between the front truck holes and the sticker will be placed above it while BBS decks usually have the warning sticker placed between the front truck holes. The color thing doesn't apply to all decks either, as BBS does use red/white stickers (as well as customized ones) for a lot of boards. If you have any questions about a particular deck you can always try emailing the company and asking or posting it here and seeing if anyone else has one and can tell you.
Smartass when you get a chance can you remove Troika from Pennswood? I was wrong about that one, they only used them for one small run a long time ago and I highly doubt there's any floating around. They now use Point distribution which I believe sources decks from a variety of manufacturers. I know they're a tiny local company that you'll almost certainly never see outside of a Pittsburgh shop, but I don't want anyone to buy one under the impression they're getting Pennswood and end up with something totally different.
Fixed Thanks for the heads up
Why aren’t Santa Cruz and Creature listed under NHS Fun Factory?
Does Powell have their own wood shop? They use to say this back in the 80’s and 90’s...not sure about these days...also don’t they make some other brand too?Yeah, I think 2 wood shops now, Goleta (Santa Barbara) and China. Mini-logo is the China stuff. Hoopla and Positiv are dead sub-brands? Idk which factory made those.
Expand QuoteWhy aren’t Santa Cruz and Creature listed under NHS Fun Factory?[close]
NHS is just their distributor and not their actual manufacturing spot. Decks distributed by NHS are mainly made by Dwindle, the same spot that makes the decks for Thank You Supply (Almost/Enjoi).
Sorry if this is pedantic..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhy aren’t Santa Cruz and Creature listed under NHS Fun Factory?[close]
NHS is just their distributor and not their actual manufacturing spot. Decks distributed by NHS are mainly made by Dwindle, the same spot that makes the decks for Thank You Supply (Almost/Enjoi).[close]
Are these Dwindle boards still pressed in China or do they have a separate US woodshop for Santa Cruz and Thank You?
https://matchory.com/top-skateboard-manufacturing-companies
HUI ZHOU CHOP CHOP WOODSHOP CO., LT (DSM)
HUIZHOU EXCEL SPORTING GOODS
Iirc, Guangdong is southern China, near Hong Kong, used to be called Canton.
Google them and you can find importer/customs info
https://www.importgenius.com/suppliers/huizhou-excel-sporting-goods
https://www.listthe.com/huizhou%20excel%20sporting%20goods?page=1 Seriously, check out the customer list.. I'm tripping on #7
https://www.listthe.com/manufacturers-of/deluxe-distribution more links, you can do your own sleuthing
Expand Quotehttps://matchory.com/top-skateboard-manufacturing-companies
HUI ZHOU CHOP CHOP WOODSHOP CO., LT (DSM)
HUIZHOU EXCEL SPORTING GOODS
Iirc, Guangdong is southern China, near Hong Kong, used to be called Canton.
Google them and you can find importer/customs info
https://www.importgenius.com/suppliers/huizhou-excel-sporting-goods
https://www.listthe.com/huizhou%20excel%20sporting%20goods?page=1 Seriously, check out the customer list.. I'm tripping on #7
https://www.listthe.com/manufacturers-of/deluxe-distribution more links, you can do your own sleuthing[close]
Some grade A CSI work there Johnson, was surprised to see Deluxe on that list. Griptape, stickers or some soft goods?
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://matchory.com/top-skateboard-manufacturing-companies
HUI ZHOU CHOP CHOP WOODSHOP CO., LT (DSM)
HUIZHOU EXCEL SPORTING GOODS
Iirc, Guangdong is southern China, near Hong Kong, used to be called Canton.
Google them and you can find importer/customs info
https://www.importgenius.com/suppliers/huizhou-excel-sporting-goods
https://www.listthe.com/huizhou%20excel%20sporting%20goods?page=1 Seriously, check out the customer list.. I'm tripping on #7
https://www.listthe.com/manufacturers-of/deluxe-distribution more links, you can do your own sleuthing[close]
Some grade A CSI work there Johnson, was surprised to see Deluxe on that list. Griptape, stickers or some soft goods?[close]
Probably the shitty kid size completes with weird trucks?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://matchory.com/top-skateboard-manufacturing-companies
HUI ZHOU CHOP CHOP WOODSHOP CO., LT (DSM)
HUIZHOU EXCEL SPORTING GOODS
Iirc, Guangdong is southern China, near Hong Kong, used to be called Canton.
Google them and you can find importer/customs info
https://www.importgenius.com/suppliers/huizhou-excel-sporting-goods
https://www.listthe.com/huizhou%20excel%20sporting%20goods?page=1 Seriously, check out the customer list.. I'm tripping on #7
https://www.listthe.com/manufacturers-of/deluxe-distribution more links, you can do your own sleuthing[close]
Some grade A CSI work there Johnson, was surprised to see Deluxe on that list. Griptape, stickers or some soft goods?[close]
Probably the shitty kid size completes with weird trucks?[close]
Probably something like that, or even some component you wouldn't necessarily think of like bushings. I've seen a lot of those real oval/AH eagle completes (with trucks from slant or anchor or ruckus or something like that) on Rakuten and Ali express so I would think that's the most likely scenario
Are the deluxe price point boards in Europe hecho en Mexico?
So who makes the main Deluxe boards? Chop Chop looks to be their completes
Does Clutch/ASF do a made in Mexico sticker?Expand QuoteSo who makes the main Deluxe boards? Chop Chop looks to be their completes[close]
Deluxe uses BBS/Generator in Mexico. If you have a board that says "made in Mexico" it's probably either BBS or PS. Blackbox used to have a shop there too, but its been gone a while. If you look at the first post in this thread you can see a list of who uses what woodshop.
Am I blind or is anti-hero not on this list? I’m curious who is making them?DLX = Real, Antihero, Krooked. Made by BBS.
Expand QuoteSo who makes the main Deluxe boards? Chop Chop looks to be their completes[close]
Deluxe uses BBS/Generator in Mexico. If you have a board that says "made in Mexico" it's probably either BBS or PS. Blackbox used to have a shop there too, but its been gone a while. If you look at the first post in this thread you can see a list of who uses what woodshop.
Has anyone here had issues with companies giving out information as to where they press their boards?That's super classic. Check on one of the previous threads for an IE from Antiz
I just asked a local company and they said the information was "confidential business propriety". Then gave some marketing spiel like "our boards are made where some of the most renowned companies produce boards at the highest level" etc.
🙄
Anyone know who’s doing business and company?99% sure is PS
Does Clutch/ASF do a made in Mexico sticker?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo who makes the main Deluxe boards? Chop Chop looks to be their completes[close]
Deluxe uses BBS/Generator in Mexico. If you have a board that says "made in Mexico" it's probably either BBS or PS. Blackbox used to have a shop there too, but its been gone a while. If you look at the first post in this thread you can see a list of who uses what woodshop.[close]
What happened to lamie's woodshop? Did it become Clutch?
Who bought Taylor-Dykeman's(sp?) stuff?
Anyone wanna go into the difference between BBS and Generator? Pretty sure they're 2 different companies. GSD owns Generator and they started out as a silk-screen shop?
Expand QuoteDoes Clutch/ASF do a made in Mexico sticker?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo who makes the main Deluxe boards? Chop Chop looks to be their completes[close]
Deluxe uses BBS/Generator in Mexico. If you have a board that says "made in Mexico" it's probably either BBS or PS. Blackbox used to have a shop there too, but its been gone a while. If you look at the first post in this thread you can see a list of who uses what woodshop.[close]
What happened to lamie's woodshop? Did it become Clutch?
Who bought Taylor-Dykeman's(sp?) stuff?
Anyone wanna go into the difference between BBS and Generator? Pretty sure they're 2 different companies. GSD owns Generator and they started out as a silk-screen shop?[close]
My buddy who does a local brand in Charlotte NC does his boards through clutch now and I don’t remember it having a made in Mexico sticker or anything. I love the board believe it’s the 09 shape square nose/tail short wheelbase. Really enjoying it.
Thanks, I have been thinking about grabbing one. I didn’t see the normal ps etching so I wasn’t sure
Watson do a lot more than is listed: Alva, Dogtown, Santa Monica Airlines, Toy Machine (reissue), H-Street, Black Label, G&S, Neil Blender's Heated Wheel etc - https://www.instagram.com/watsonlaminates/ (https://www.instagram.com/watsonlaminates/)
Watson do a lot more than is listed: Alva, Dogtown, Santa Monica Airlines, Toy Machine (reissue), H-Street, Black Label, G&S, Neil Blender's Heated Wheel etc - https://www.instagram.com/watsonlaminates/ (https://www.instagram.com/watsonlaminates/)
I think Maxallure is BBS/Generator. I might have seen boards on Generator's insta if someone wants to double check.
What's Watson wood like now? The late-90's stuff sucked sucked sucked
I tried insta stalking but couldn't find the pic I was thinking of. I'm hoping my memory didn't glitch..Expand QuoteI think Maxallure is BBS/Generator. I might have seen boards on Generator's insta if someone wants to double check.
What's Watson wood like now? The late-90's stuff sucked sucked sucked[close]
I didn't see a bbs sticker on the Maxallure decks at my local but they don't always do them, so I guess that could be the case. The last two times I've gone the owner hasn't been there but I'll try to remember to ask next time I see him.
The Watson wood seems pretty good. I haven't had a chance to really skate it yet but just rolling around and doing the post setup ollies and whatnot it had good pop and was quite light but still felt solid. Its a shaped deck with a 14.5" wb so it's never going to be my go-to daily driver deck but I actually really like the shape. Its a 31.7" and the kicks are mellower than the other shaped deck I have (a Pennswood with one of the craziest graphics I've ever seen) so I think it'll fit nto the "i want to skate something different today" part of my quiver nicely. If it sogs out really fast or breaks or something I'll update this, but so far so good with my first Watson deck.
gx1000 is ps as well, picked up one of theirs recently
Hows the concave and nose/tail steepness/length on Snack skateboards 8.38? Anyone know?
Expand QuoteHows the concave and nose/tail steepness/length on Snack skateboards 8.38? Anyone know?[close]
I haven't seen an 8.38 in person but all the Snack decks I looked at seem to just use the same or similar molds to other recent PS decks (WKND/Scumco) so the concave was a little mellower than most standard BBS/dwindle and the kicks were wide with a big ole ski ramp nose and mellower tail. Premier sells snack stuff and they're really good about taking pictures that give you a good idea of the shape of the board
https://thepremierstore.com/collections/snack
They're a good shop to order from too if you can't find what you want locally, they stock a lot of cool brands. I bought a couple decks there and they shipped really fast and threw in a bunch of stickers. Really good shoe selection too.
Who makes Stereo?
I know stereo reissue is on the list, but normal run ones? Also whats watson like?
Thats not what i wanted to hear. Im looking for something with a not so mellow tail. The nose sounds like its exactly what I want tho. Sucks to not have a local shop to buy decks from.
Expand Quote
Thats not what i wanted to hear. Im looking for something with a not so mellow tail. The nose sounds like its exactly what I want tho. Sucks to not have a local shop to buy decks from.[close]
These ones look like the tail is pretty similar to the nose, but that nose might be a little mellower than what you want. Unfortunately for you the "trendy" thing right now is steep nose and mellow tail.
https://thepremierstore.com/products/porter-kool-breeze-deck
https://thepremierstore.com/products/seein-the-sights-deck-yellow-black
It does suck not being able to hold a deck in person and look at it from different angles etc. One thing I noticed when I got a bunch of the new ScumCo decks was that there's more variance in how steep and deep a board is based on where it is in the stack than I thought there'd be.
https://i.imgur.com/zRWHjX7.jpg
Same deck, same mold, same size but you can see that the board with the green ply is quite a bit steeper.
Personally I'd suggest checking out some South Central standard mold decks if you want something with fairly steep kicks on both ends. Unfortunately DOA is all sold out at the moment but you could grab something from one of the other brands that use them or if you're not in a hurry I definitely recommend grabbing the DOA square shape if he does them in the next run. If you really want PS wood then the new ScumCo Ty Beall deck is pretty steep on both sides or you can get one of their Pennswood logo decks, the silver spoon shape is pretty steep.
Or just poke around on Premier and see if you see anything that tickles your pickle. They do the side pics for everything so you can get a pretty good idea of what its going to be like.
Need some board advice...
Currently have an 8.5 BBS (April brand).
The wood is great (crispy as hell) but I am not wild about the shape.
Reasons:
-tail is too small and pointy.
-not enough concave.
-not wide enough.
Been looking at following decks:
WKND 8.6–looks like greater concave and more tail.
Quasi 8.75–nice shape but larger wheel base and slightly less concave.
Alien 8.75–looks similar to WKND, but would rather get a WKND cause they have been working hard and all companies use PS Stix I guess so it’s kind of like pick your poison.
I am also looking at a Scumco Deep Dish 8.5, but for a really deep concave I would prefer a 8.75-9.00 wide deck cause I have a size 12 and don’t like to feel the edges of the board.
Don’t really care about brand or graphics. Basically would just like more room to stand and do nollie and shuvit tricks.
Thanks ahead of time.
Need some board advice...
Currently have an 8.5 BBS (April brand).
The wood is great (crispy as hell) but I am not wild about the shape.
Reasons:
-tail is too small and pointy.
-not enough concave.
-not wide enough.
Been looking at following decks:
WKND 8.6–looks like greater concave and more tail.
Quasi 8.75–nice shape but larger wheel base and slightly less concave.
Alien 8.75–looks similar to WKND, but would rather get a WKND cause they have been working hard and all companies use PS Stix I guess so it’s kind of like pick your poison.
I am also looking at a Scumco Deep Dish 8.5, but for a really deep concave I would prefer a 8.75-9.00 wide deck cause I have a size 12 and don’t like to feel the edges of the board.
Don’t really care about brand or graphics. Basically would just like more room to stand and do nollie and shuvit tricks.
Thanks ahead of time.
Need some board advice...Get Polar.
Currently have an 8.5 BBS (April brand).
The wood is great (crispy as hell) but I am not wild about the shape.
Reasons:
-tail is too small and pointy.
-not enough concave.
-not wide enough.
Been looking at following decks:
WKND 8.6–looks like greater concave and more tail.
Quasi 8.75–nice shape but larger wheel base and slightly less concave.
Alien 8.75–looks similar to WKND, but would rather get a WKND cause they have been working hard and all companies use PS Stix I guess so it’s kind of like pick your poison.
I am also looking at a Scumco Deep Dish 8.5, but for a really deep concave I would prefer a 8.75-9.00 wide deck cause I have a size 12 and don’t like to feel the edges of the board.
Don’t really care about brand or graphics. Basically would just like more room to stand and do nollie and shuvit tricks.
Thanks ahead of time.
Expand QuoteNeed some board advice...
Currently have an 8.5 BBS (April brand).
The wood is great (crispy as hell) but I am not wild about the shape.
Reasons:
-tail is too small and pointy.
-not enough concave.
-not wide enough.
Been looking at following decks:
WKND 8.6–looks like greater concave and more tail.
Quasi 8.75–nice shape but larger wheel base and slightly less concave.
Alien 8.75–looks similar to WKND, but would rather get a WKND cause they have been working hard and all companies use PS Stix I guess so it’s kind of like pick your poison.
I am also looking at a Scumco Deep Dish 8.5, but for a really deep concave I would prefer a 8.75-9.00 wide deck cause I have a size 12 and don’t like to feel the edges of the board.
Don’t really care about brand or graphics. Basically would just like more room to stand and do nollie and shuvit tricks.
Thanks ahead of time.[close]
i have only been riding 8.75+ due to my size 13s so we are kinda in the same boat
i am really liking this polar p8 deck. listed as a 14.5 wheelbase online but in reality, 14.38. measures 8.8 at the widest point but tapers to 8.5. i cant really notice the taper all that much, just feels more agile on flip tricks. i do feel like it forces me to have good back foot positioning subliminally since there is just less room. according to tactics it has a 7" nose, a 6.5" tail, and .438 concave. measured it myself at a hair under 32". just about 31.9. i want to try another deck but im really tempted to buy another p8 and have it in my locker as a permanent shape. feels like home. the other decks i havent tried yet but are in the queue.
antihero brown bomber. all my AH decks have been super tough and currently are still serviceable today. the decks in question didnt fit the dims that i like now, but this one sure does. might be little flat, but everything else looks good
8.86
32" length
14.25 wb
6.875 nose
6.625 tail
.375 concave
assuming you dont like shaped boards, the popsicle option i would check out is the baker kader logo
9.0
32" length
14.25 wb
6.875 nose
6.5 tail
.5 concave
hopefully you arent against riding shapes because finding a popsicle at the dims you are looking for isnt easy, theres usually one dimension that fucks everything up imo. what i have seen a lot is "everything is perfect, but 14.5-15 wb.""everything is perfect, but way longer than 32.25." "everything is perfect, but 6.875 tail." of course these are my preferences but the bigger popsicles rarely come in "regular" dims. if i end up liking the baker deck i will stockpile that shit no question. its literally a unicorn if you look for these sorts of decks weekly.
id easily say im a better skater on shapes cause at this deck width, the shapes have more "tech" minded dims than the popsicles. get used to them if you want to ride wide boards and not just as a cruiser. hope this helps
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNeed some board advice...
Currently have an 8.5 BBS (April brand).
The wood is great (crispy as hell) but I am not wild about the shape.
Reasons:
-tail is too small and pointy.
-not enough concave.
-not wide enough.
Been looking at following decks:
WKND 8.6–looks like greater concave and more tail.
Quasi 8.75–nice shape but larger wheel base and slightly less concave.
Alien 8.75–looks similar to WKND, but would rather get a WKND cause they have been working hard and all companies use PS Stix I guess so it’s kind of like pick your poison.
I am also looking at a Scumco Deep Dish 8.5, but for a really deep concave I would prefer a 8.75-9.00 wide deck cause I have a size 12 and don’t like to feel the edges of the board.
Don’t really care about brand or graphics. Basically would just like more room to stand and do nollie and shuvit tricks.
Thanks ahead of time.[close]
i have only been riding 8.75+ due to my size 13s so we are kinda in the same boat
i am really liking this polar p8 deck. listed as a 14.5 wheelbase online but in reality, 14.38. measures 8.8 at the widest point but tapers to 8.5. i cant really notice the taper all that much, just feels more agile on flip tricks. i do feel like it forces me to have good back foot positioning subliminally since there is just less room. according to tactics it has a 7" nose, a 6.5" tail, and .438 concave. measured it myself at a hair under 32". just about 31.9. i want to try another deck but im really tempted to buy another p8 and have it in my locker as a permanent shape. feels like home. the other decks i havent tried yet but are in the queue.
antihero brown bomber. all my AH decks have been super tough and currently are still serviceable today. the decks in question didnt fit the dims that i like now, but this one sure does. might be little flat, but everything else looks good
8.86
32" length
14.25 wb
6.875 nose
6.625 tail
.375 concave
assuming you dont like shaped boards, the popsicle option i would check out is the baker kader logo
9.0
32" length
14.25 wb
6.875 nose
6.5 tail
.5 concave
hopefully you arent against riding shapes because finding a popsicle at the dims you are looking for isnt easy, theres usually one dimension that fucks everything up imo. what i have seen a lot is "everything is perfect, but 14.5-15 wb.""everything is perfect, but way longer than 32.25." "everything is perfect, but 6.875 tail." of course these are my preferences but the bigger popsicles rarely come in "regular" dims. if i end up liking the baker deck i will stockpile that shit no question. its literally a unicorn if you look for these sorts of decks weekly.
id easily say im a better skater on shapes cause at this deck width, the shapes have more "tech" minded dims than the popsicles. get used to them if you want to ride wide boards and not just as a cruiser. hope this helps[close]
Thanks for the thoughts.
I have been looking at the P8 but I really don’t think I would like to ride a shaped board.
I have thought about the 1991 shape before, but I am really wanting a popsicle shape.
Seems like PS Stix are becoming less popular as the years go on. I read a lot about soggy wood which doesn’t make sense. How can Paul Schmidt allow for low quality? He has a PHD in plywood.
I actually found a 9” Polar popsicle so maybe that is the move?
(https://d20gdy1q9848h5.cloudfront.net/cowtown/product_photos/rd_images/rd_polar-skateboards-nick-boserio-lifetime-deal-deck-9.0.jpg)
Thanks again
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNeed some board advice...
Currently have an 8.5 BBS (April brand).
The wood is great (crispy as hell) but I am not wild about the shape.
Reasons:
-tail is too small and pointy.
-not enough concave.
-not wide enough.
Been looking at following decks:
WKND 8.6–looks like greater concave and more tail.
Quasi 8.75–nice shape but larger wheel base and slightly less concave.
Alien 8.75–looks similar to WKND, but would rather get a WKND cause they have been working hard and all companies use PS Stix I guess so it’s kind of like pick your poison.
I am also looking at a Scumco Deep Dish 8.5, but for a really deep concave I would prefer a 8.75-9.00 wide deck cause I have a size 12 and don’t like to feel the edges of the board.
Don’t really care about brand or graphics. Basically would just like more room to stand and do nollie and shuvit tricks.
Thanks ahead of time.[close]
i have only been riding 8.75+ due to my size 13s so we are kinda in the same boat
i am really liking this polar p8 deck. listed as a 14.5 wheelbase online but in reality, 14.38. measures 8.8 at the widest point but tapers to 8.5. i cant really notice the taper all that much, just feels more agile on flip tricks. i do feel like it forces me to have good back foot positioning subliminally since there is just less room. according to tactics it has a 7" nose, a 6.5" tail, and .438 concave. measured it myself at a hair under 32". just about 31.9. i want to try another deck but im really tempted to buy another p8 and have it in my locker as a permanent shape. feels like home. the other decks i havent tried yet but are in the queue.
antihero brown bomber. all my AH decks have been super tough and currently are still serviceable today. the decks in question didnt fit the dims that i like now, but this one sure does. might be little flat, but everything else looks good
8.86
32" length
14.25 wb
6.875 nose
6.625 tail
.375 concave
assuming you dont like shaped boards, the popsicle option i would check out is the baker kader logo
9.0
32" length
14.25 wb
6.875 nose
6.5 tail
.5 concave
hopefully you arent against riding shapes because finding a popsicle at the dims you are looking for isnt easy, theres usually one dimension that fucks everything up imo. what i have seen a lot is "everything is perfect, but 14.5-15 wb.""everything is perfect, but way longer than 32.25." "everything is perfect, but 6.875 tail." of course these are my preferences but the bigger popsicles rarely come in "regular" dims. if i end up liking the baker deck i will stockpile that shit no question. its literally a unicorn if you look for these sorts of decks weekly.
id easily say im a better skater on shapes cause at this deck width, the shapes have more "tech" minded dims than the popsicles. get used to them if you want to ride wide boards and not just as a cruiser. hope this helps[close]
Thanks for the thoughts.
I have been looking at the P8 but I really don’t think I would like to ride a shaped board.
I have thought about the 1991 shape before, but I am really wanting a popsicle shape.
Seems like PS Stix are becoming less popular as the years go on. I read a lot about soggy wood which doesn’t make sense. How can Paul Schmidt allow for low quality? He has a PHD in plywood.
I actually found a 9” Polar popsicle so maybe that is the move?
(https://d20gdy1q9848h5.cloudfront.net/cowtown/product_photos/rd_images/rd_polar-skateboards-nick-boserio-lifetime-deal-deck-9.0.jpg)
Thanks again
Anyone seen the new distro Mayhew is doing?
They do Elenex so maybe Woodchuck wood?
And doing some Willy's Workshop decks so picking up Select's slack? They gotta be making Gator boards 24/7, right?
edit: also doing Visit and shop decks
https://www.instagram.com/davidrmayhew/
https://www.instagram.com/progress_dist/
https://www.progressdist.com/branding-products
Expand QuoteAnyone seen the new distro Mayhew is doing?
They do Elenex so maybe Woodchuck wood?
And doing some Willy's Workshop decks so picking up Select's slack? They gotta be making Gator boards 24/7, right?
edit: also doing Visit and shop decks
https://www.instagram.com/davidrmayhew/
https://www.instagram.com/progress_dist/
https://www.progressdist.com/branding-products[close]
Those are some weird sized boards: 8 x 31.25 x 14 looks way too short for me.
https://www.elenexbrand.com/shop
Shit they are still around!? Last recall them taking in the Status guys after that brand folded.
Anyone tried GX1000 boards? I know they're PS but I tried a homies and it felt very strange and unlike a lot of PS boards I've tried in the past. Maybe old stock or something but it felt soggy as fuck right out of the shrink. Contemplated getting one as the shape is pretty right on but wanted to see other opinions.
I think a few woodshops do this. Prof mentions different shape prick marks on his nine club, crob jokes about him calling bagley a prick.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone seen the new distro Mayhew is doing?
They do Elenex so maybe Woodchuck wood?
And doing some Willy's Workshop decks so picking up Select's slack? They gotta be making Gator boards 24/7, right?
edit: also doing Visit and shop decks
https://www.instagram.com/davidrmayhew/
https://www.instagram.com/progress_dist/
https://www.progressdist.com/branding-products[close]
Those are some weird sized boards: 8 x 31.25 x 14 looks way too short for me.
https://www.elenexbrand.com/shop
Shit they are still around!? Last recall them taking in the Status guys after that brand folded.[close]
Elenex is done by the James Bros (Rod and Steve) while I haven't skated a elenex board, I did have a finesse deck last year that had the notch on the top. I thought that was a BBS sig? Either way, it was a great board.
(http://i.imgur.com/ILYUPMim.jpg)
I think a few woodshops do this. Prof mentions different shape prick marks on his nine club, crob jokes about him calling bagley a prick.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone seen the new distro Mayhew is doing?
They do Elenex so maybe Woodchuck wood?
And doing some Willy's Workshop decks so picking up Select's slack? They gotta be making Gator boards 24/7, right?
edit: also doing Visit and shop decks
https://www.instagram.com/davidrmayhew/
https://www.instagram.com/progress_dist/
https://www.progressdist.com/branding-products[close]
Those are some weird sized boards: 8 x 31.25 x 14 looks way too short for me.
https://www.elenexbrand.com/shop
Shit they are still around!? Last recall them taking in the Status guys after that brand folded.[close]
Elenex is done by the James Bros (Rod and Steve) while I haven't skated a elenex board, I did have a finesse deck last year that had the notch on the top. I thought that was a BBS sig? Either way, it was a great board.
(http://i.imgur.com/ILYUPMim.jpg)[close]
You guys seen Lance's cruiser/retro brand thru Flip?
https://goldcupskateboards.com
Lol. Oops. I just noticed it on Flip's site. I wonder why they didn't delete it? Makes me wonder about the world changing again this summer..Expand QuoteYou guys seen Lance's cruiser/retro brand thru Flip?
https://goldcupskateboards.com[close]
Gold Cup were made to grab some of that Penny craze money. They didn't take off, and gave up. The Instagram account was last updated 2 years ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BeETQhJg8Tn/
Lol. Oops. I just noticed it on Flip's site. I wonder why they didn't delete it? Makes me wonder about the world changing again this summer..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYou guys seen Lance's cruiser/retro brand thru Flip?
https://goldcupskateboards.com[close]
Gold Cup were made to grab some of that Penny craze money. They didn't take off, and gave up. The Instagram account was last updated 2 years ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BeETQhJg8Tn/[close]
Don't remember if you guys have mentioned this yet. Some of the World reissues weren't screened by Screaming Squeegees. Some ppl claiming China wood too. Insta comments are interesting, World now owned by a Canadian tire company? Is there one? Canadian Tires is a chain of auto parts stores, eh?
https://www.skullandbonesskateboards.com/dod/viewtopic.php?t=170670
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6N9mMqFDWo/
A sign of changed wood shops?
No usa sticker new stamp
Expand QuoteA sign of changed wood shops?
No usa sticker new stamp[close]
On what board?
One update:
All I Need is BBS
Also I know this was brought up in last year's thread but I've recently heard it from 2 other reliable sources - apparently Chapman doesn't press boards anymore and they're just using Clutch blanks. That also made me totally re-assess my opinion of Clutch because I wasnt impressed with the meridian board I skated last year but I absolutely love the "chapman" coda deck I have now.
One of my buddies has his decks pressed by Clutch and imo they used to suck but lately they've been way better.Expand QuoteA sign of changed wood shops?
No usa sticker new stamp[close]
On what board?
One update:
All I Need is BBS
Also I know this was brought up in last year's thread but I've recently heard it from 2 other reliable sources - apparently Chapman doesn't press boards anymore and they're just using Clutch blanks. That also made me totally re-assess my opinion of Clutch because I wasnt impressed with the meridian board I skated last year but I absolutely love the "chapman" coda deck I have now.
Anyone got Maxallure wood? Was mentioned south central in other thread.
https://maxallureskateboards.com
thanks for the insight. I’m gonna order one as well, screw it. They said they’d do a 8.75” as wellExpand QuoteAnyone got Maxallure wood? Was mentioned south central in other thread.
https://maxallureskateboards.com[close]
Don't quote me on this but from the pictures I've seen it looks like maybe bbs? The sticker is in the right place and they do custom stickers for some companies so that's a possibility but then again any time I see a company selling decks that cheap I always kind of suspect that it's china wood. I ordered one of the mystery boxes so I'll update when I get it.
At any rate I don't think it's SC, I've never seen them do the sticker under the plastic thing before. Even the custom "Flat as Fuck" stickers on DOA decks I've had were outside the plastic.
Anyone wanna ask for wb dimensions? Mainly curious about 8.75, 8.5, 8.25thanks for the insight. I’m gonna order one as well, screw it. They said they’d do a 8.75” as wellExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone got Maxallure wood? Was mentioned south central in other thread.
https://maxallureskateboards.com[close]
Don't quote me on this but from the pictures I've seen it looks like maybe bbs? The sticker is in the right place and they do custom stickers for some companies so that's a possibility but then again any time I see a company selling decks that cheap I always kind of suspect that it's china wood. I ordered one of the mystery boxes so I'll update when I get it.
At any rate I don't think it's SC, I've never seen them do the sticker under the plastic thing before. Even the custom "Flat as Fuck" stickers on DOA decks I've had were outside the plastic.[close]
I was curious as well and asked via Maxallure IG and said they didn’t know for the top of the head and the warehouse opens tomorrow. (Sale ends tonightOh. Bummer
Oh. BummerExpand QuoteI was curious as well and asked via Maxallure IG and said they didn’t know for the top of the head and the warehouse opens tomorrow. (Sale ends tonight[close]
i asked em about the wheelbase and lengthExpand QuoteOh. BummerExpand QuoteI was curious as well and asked via Maxallure IG and said they didn’t know for the top of the head and the warehouse opens tomorrow. (Sale ends tonight[close][close]
I am pretty sure that the few I have seen were PGI.
Can anyone give me an idea of WKND shapes? It seems like they make mellow concave and medium concave. I don't like mellow concave but also don't like too short of a tail. I haven't bought an actual pro company board in like 5 years and our 1 shop only carries the worst fucking brands that the kids buy. Otherwise no shops near me for like 60 miles. Thanks fellas.
I ended up getting a tactics deck to try their shallower concave. But thank you. I was reading dimensions and stuff and they did seem shorter. I still want to try them but goddamn I can’t pay $60 for a deck alone. I bought a hat of theirs though to still get some sheckles their way. I’ll try them for sure next time. They seemed mellow but I just couldn’t figure it out. Appreciate the response. I WILL go for it next deck.Expand QuoteCan anyone give me an idea of WKND shapes? It seems like they make mellow concave and medium concave. I don't like mellow concave but also don't like too short of a tail. I haven't bought an actual pro company board in like 5 years and our 1 shop only carries the worst fucking brands that the kids buy. Otherwise no shops near me for like 60 miles. Thanks fellas.[close]
I'm just about to retire an 8.25 Jordan Taylor wknd. If you've ever seen an FA/hockey board it's l similar to that but with a bigger nose and a shallower concave. They usually have a full shape with wide, blunt/square-ish kicks and a steep nose and mellower tail. They're also usually a little shorter than average too, mine is 31.5 and the others I looked at were around that.
I absolutely loved that deck, I bought it on a whim because it was on clearance and it pretty much single handedly changed my opinion of the trendy square shape and PS wood and now those are two of the things that I look for in a deck. If you want something similar but with a slightly more traditional nose the new PS stix Scumco team deck (the blue one) is amazing.
Here's a pretty typical wknd deck from premier, they always take great pictures that give you a good idea of what the deck is like.
https://thepremierstore.com/products/johan-stuckey-fever-kingdom-series-deck-night-stalker?_pos=2&_sid=4a82eb5bf&_ss=r
I ended up getting a tactics deck to try their shallower concave. But thank you. I was reading dimensions and stuff and they did seem shorter. I still want to try them but goddamn I can’t pay $60 for a deck alone. I bought a hat of theirs though to still get some sheckles their way. I’ll try them for sure next time. They seemed mellow but I just couldn’t figure it out. Appreciate the response. I WILL go for it next deck.
taking this convo to the woodshop thread.. for appropriate first page updates when we get to the bottom of it.Expand Quoteha! One step closer... mine is prepped for shipment but it’s gotta travel across the country.. due for delivery 2/18.Expand QuoteExpand Quote]yeah said they could make it work and to put it in the order notes. So I ordered one without knowing for sure the woodshop or dimensions.. ha.[close]
I did some investigative reporting on site at my local skate shop today and after an exhaustive search this is what I discovered. I don't think its BBS either. I'm not sure what company it is but it has a weird size sticker aligned in the bottom truck holes. However, I found a clue that could break the case WIDE OPEN.
In the bargain bin, I found another deck with the same mysterious sticker. That deck was.... a Consolidated fists deck. So it would appear that the Maxallure decks are the same woodshop that does Consolidated, whoever the fuck that is.[close][close]
Yeah it was actually kind of an accident. I looked at the Maxallure's and measured some of them but no one in the shop had any idea what wood it was, but I always dig through the bargain bin because one time I got an 8.25 Flight deck there for $40 because it was out of the plastic and scratched up pretty good. Just took a black paint marker and filled in the scratches and you could barely tell it was ever scratched. It was actually kind of an accident that I even noticed it, I wasn't interested in the consolidated deck but I had to move it to get the one I wanted to look at out of the rack and I just so happened to sit it down with the top up and noticed that it had the same sticker.
(https://i.imgur.com/F7Z4uZp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vGNm0i3.jpg)
Expand QuoteI ended up getting a tactics deck to try their shallower concave. But thank you. I was reading dimensions and stuff and they did seem shorter. I still want to try them but goddamn I can’t pay $60 for a deck alone. I bought a hat of theirs though to still get some sheckles their way. I’ll try them for sure next time. They seemed mellow but I just couldn’t figure it out. Appreciate the response. I WILL go for it next deck.[close]
No problem, just shoot me a pm if you want to know more about them or anything like that. I don't want to shit this thread up too much with my nerdy rambling.
When you get that tactics deck fan you take a picture of any stickers/markings on it? I've heard that their shop decks are BBS but I've never actually confirmed it. I like the bowling graphic a lot, so if it's BBS wood I'll probably pick one up.
taking this convo to the woodshop thread.. for appropriate first page updates when we get to the bottom of it.Expand QuoteExpand Quoteha! One step closer... mine is prepped for shipment but it’s gotta travel across the country.. due for delivery 2/18.Expand QuoteExpand Quote]yeah said they could make it work and to put it in the order notes. So I ordered one without knowing for sure the woodshop or dimensions.. ha.[close]
I did some investigative reporting on site at my local skate shop today and after an exhaustive search this is what I discovered. I don't think its BBS either. I'm not sure what company it is but it has a weird size sticker aligned in the bottom truck holes. However, I found a clue that could break the case WIDE OPEN.
In the bargain bin, I found another deck with the same mysterious sticker. That deck was.... a Consolidated fists deck. So it would appear that the Maxallure decks are the same woodshop that does Consolidated, whoever the fuck that is.[close][close]
Yeah it was actually kind of an accident. I looked at the Maxallure's and measured some of them but no one in the shop had any idea what wood it was, but I always dig through the bargain bin because one time I got an 8.25 Flight deck there for $40 because it was out of the plastic and scratched up pretty good. Just took a black paint marker and filled in the scratches and you could barely tell it was ever scratched. It was actually kind of an accident that I even noticed it, I wasn't interested in the consolidated deck but I had to move it to get the one I wanted to look at out of the rack and I just so happened to sit it down with the top up and noticed that it had the same sticker.
(https://i.imgur.com/F7Z4uZp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vGNm0i3.jpg)[close]
maybe we can lay the tactics on bbs rumor to rest!
Expand Quotemaybe we can lay the tactics on bbs rumor to rest![close]
There is a Tactics shop one block from my office. I asked them in person and the guy who told me BBS is the guy who has designed multiple of their graphics.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotemaybe we can lay the tactics on bbs rumor to rest![close]
There is a Tactics shop one block from my office. I asked them in person and the guy who told me BBS is the guy who has designed multiple of their graphics.[close]
I called their office just now and the employee said “I can’t give that out, but they’re made at the same place most of the popular brands are made. They’re very high quality”
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotemaybe we can lay the tactics on bbs rumor to rest![close]
There is a Tactics shop one block from my office. I asked them in person and the guy who told me BBS is the guy who has designed multiple of their graphics.[close]
I called their office just now and the employee said “I can’t give that out, but they’re made at the same place most of the popular brands are made. They’re very high quality”[close]
I love getting that very helpful response.
JK, no idea why brands/shops try and be secretive about that shit.[close]
Yeah even one of my local companies was being super secretive when I asked where they got their boards made. They claimed they used the “same shop as FA/Hockey” when I asked if they got their decks from PS Stix he said no. Turns out they just use shape O from ASF/Clutch lol. I personally think woodshop should be advertised just like size is.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotemaybe we can lay the tactics on bbs rumor to rest![close]
There is a Tactics shop one block from my office. I asked them in person and the guy who told me BBS is the guy who has designed multiple of their graphics.[close]
I called their office just now and the employee said “I can’t give that out, but they’re made at the same place most of the popular brands are made. They’re very high quality”[close]
I love getting that very helpful response.
JK, no idea why brands/shops try and be secretive about that shit.[close]
Yeah even one of my local companies was being super secretive when I asked where they got their boards made. They claimed they used the “same shop as FA/Hockey” when I asked if they got their decks from PS Stix he said no. Turns out they just use shape O from ASF/Clutch lol. I personally think woodshop should be advertised just like size is.[close]
Some companies do this and at this point, I'm pretty much only going to support the ones that do. It's ridiculous to try and hide where something is manufactured.
It's bullshit to only see the width of the deck advertised too. Lack of info is lame.
Hey, does anyone happen to know what woodshop Colours Collectiv uses?
Picked up one of their boards on a whim because I liked the look of the shape. It's the first time in quite a while I felt a noticeable difference in quality. It lasted me longer than most boards as well. The crispiness held up so well that I didn't wanna retire it.
Expand Quotetaking this convo to the woodshop thread.. for appropriate first page updates when we get to the bottom of it.Expand QuoteExpand Quoteha! One step closer... mine is prepped for shipment but it’s gotta travel across the country.. due for delivery 2/18.Expand QuoteExpand Quote]yeah said they could make it work and to put it in the order notes. So I ordered one without knowing for sure the woodshop or dimensions.. ha.[close]
I did some investigative reporting on site at my local skate shop today and after an exhaustive search this is what I discovered. I don't think its BBS either. I'm not sure what company it is but it has a weird size sticker aligned in the bottom truck holes. However, I found a clue that could break the case WIDE OPEN.
In the bargain bin, I found another deck with the same mysterious sticker. That deck was.... a Consolidated fists deck. So it would appear that the Maxallure decks are the same woodshop that does Consolidated, whoever the fuck that is.[close][close]
Yeah it was actually kind of an accident. I looked at the Maxallure's and measured some of them but no one in the shop had any idea what wood it was, but I always dig through the bargain bin because one time I got an 8.25 Flight deck there for $40 because it was out of the plastic and scratched up pretty good. Just took a black paint marker and filled in the scratches and you could barely tell it was ever scratched. It was actually kind of an accident that I even noticed it, I wasn't interested in the consolidated deck but I had to move it to get the one I wanted to look at out of the rack and I just so happened to sit it down with the top up and noticed that it had the same sticker.
(https://i.imgur.com/F7Z4uZp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vGNm0i3.jpg)[close][close]
China wood
Does anyone know who presses ATM and Permanent Vacation and/or have any experience with these brands? (https://sopdistribution.com/).
I agree but the average consumer doesn't care about WB. Folks who care about WB are a tiny subset of an already small industry. Giving less information helps the average consumer make quick purchase decisions. It's good that you can easily whip out your phone to look up tactics or Zumiez for WB information in the product before you buy though.
Expand QuoteI agree but the average consumer doesn't care about WB. Folks who care about WB are a tiny subset of an already small industry. Giving less information helps the average consumer make quick purchase decisions. It's good that you can easily whip out your phone to look up tactics or Zumiez for WB information in the product before you buy though.[close]
Be careful about using Zumiez as a source. I think they have a basic template they use for 8.25s that says 8.25 x 31.75 x 14.25wb and if they don't know the measurement they just leave it as that,so if that's what's listed for the deck you're looking at then I would try to verify it somewhere else. I've seen several boards on there listed as that and I know those ones are wrong because I have them.
They also call damn near everything imported even when it has "made in the USA" stamped right on top like most SC decks.
Tactics is pretty good in my experience. It seems like they actually measure them themselves too.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI ended up getting a tactics deck to try their shallower concave. But thank you. I was reading dimensions and stuff and they did seem shorter. I still want to try them but goddamn I can’t pay $60 for a deck alone. I bought a hat of theirs though to still get some sheckles their way. I’ll try them for sure next time. They seemed mellow but I just couldn’t figure it out. Appreciate the response. I WILL go for it next deck.[close]
No problem, just shoot me a pm if you want to know more about them or anything like that. I don't want to shit this thread up too much with my nerdy rambling.
When you get that tactics deck fan you take a picture of any stickers/markings on it? I've heard that their shop decks are BBS but I've never actually confirmed it. I like the bowling graphic a lot, so if it's BBS wood I'll probably pick one up.[close]
I just picked up a tactics decks because I heard the same thing about them using BBS. Recently fell in love with a Baker deck that’s 8.125 x 31.5 x 14.25 and the tactics deck has VERY similar proportions so I’m hopeful. I’ll post some photos in about a week when I get it and maybe we can lay the tactics on bbs rumor to rest!
How is girl/chocolate wood of late?
Anyone knows which woodshop uses this imprint on top? It's a sk8dlx shop deck, the company is based in germany i think. Contacted customer service, but they didn't want to share that information.
if they don't want to say where its from, it's probably from China.
If i remember correctly, there's no industrial pressing plant in Germany. They get wood from china and print.
Expand Quoteif they don't want to say where its from, it's probably from China.
If i remember correctly, there's no industrial pressing plant in Germany. They get wood from china and print.[close]
Could be HLC as they offer 14.125 WB boards and the only other brand which has a lot of 14.125 WB offerings on skatedeluxe ist Jart. Shapes also looking like Jart (from the images offered on the webpage).
It it is soft after 2 weeks it is HLC, only other option would be some China wood.
There is a German woodshop offering quality products but not "industrial pressing plant".
https://instagram.com/esb_woodshop
Expand Quoteif they don't want to say where its from, it's probably from China.
If i remember correctly, there's no industrial pressing plant in Germany. They get wood from china and print.[close]
Could be HLC as they offer 14.125 WB boards and the only other brand which has a lot of 14.125 WB offerings on skatedeluxe ist Jart. Shapes also looking like Jart (from the images offered on the webpage). But they usually include Made in Europe on the top, at least HLC Habitat.
It it is soft after 2 weeks it is HLC, only other option would be some China woodshop.
There is a German woodshop offering quality products but not "industrial pressing plant".
https://instagram.com/esb_woodshop
And you're wrong about HLC current quality. They aren't soft after two weeks at all. We currently make our shopboards at HLC and the quality is top tier.
i had one really bad quasi / ps stix in 2018, soft in 2 weeks. it didn't make me think ps or quasi are bad.
One bad board doesn't mean shit.
Hundreds of shop boards, plenty of feedbacks from customers and team members mean something. they are really good.
I just looked at a recently released Real R1 Full, Busenitz with the 2 twins from Shining. This board is thicker than the shop board. I weighed them. Funny thing they weigh exactly the same : 1,330 kg.
Can i conclude ? not really. Does it challenge your 2017 experience and toptierness argument? yes
In 2017 they didn't have moved to their new factory yet.
The current quality is great
QuoteExpand QuoteAnd you're wrong about HLC current quality. They aren't soft after two weeks at all. We currently make our shopboards at HLC and the quality is top tier.[close]
The last I had was a Habitat in 2017 an it sucked, comparable to the Jart I had 10 years earlier.
Just compare it with a BB or South Central and you see the top tierness. The HLC ones have always been thicker and heavier compared to these. I am open for proofing me wrong.
Edit: https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/sk8dlx-alligator-8-deck-multi_p128688?cPath=42&brand_id=131
"Made in Europe" stated, but not on all boards. Maybe they use different woodshops here and there but from a price point the only other option is China in my opinion.
Expand QuoteWhy aren’t Santa Cruz and Creature listed under NHS Fun Factory?[close]
NHS is just their distributor and not their actual manufacturing spot. Decks distributed by NHS are mainly made by Dwindle, the same spot that makes the decks for Thank You Supply (Almost/Enjoi).
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteif they don't want to say where its from, it's probably from China.
If i remember correctly, there's no industrial pressing plant in Germany. They get wood from china and print.[close]
Could be HLC as they offer 14.125 WB boards and the only other brand which has a lot of 14.125 WB offerings on skatedeluxe ist Jart. Shapes also looking like Jart (from the images offered on the webpage). But they usually include Made in Europe on the top, at least HLC Habitat.
It it is soft after 2 weeks it is HLC, only other option would be some China woodshop.
There is a German woodshop offering quality products but not "industrial pressing plant".
https://instagram.com/esb_woodshop[close]
the HLC laser engraving doesn't look like this.
and i don't think they press board for sk8deluxe, i'll try to get more info
And you're wrong about HLC current quality. They aren't soft after two weeks at all. We currently make our shopboards at HLC and the quality is top tier.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotemaybe we can lay the tactics on bbs rumor to rest![close]
There is a Tactics shop one block from my office. I asked them in person and the guy who told me BBS is the guy who has designed multiple of their graphics.[close]
I called their office just now and the employee said “I can’t give that out, but they’re made at the same place most of the popular brands are made. They’re very high quality”
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotemaybe we can lay the tactics on bbs rumor to rest![close]
There is a Tactics shop one block from my office. I asked them in person and the guy who told me BBS is the guy who has designed multiple of their graphics.[close]
I called their office just now and the employee said “I can’t give that out, but they’re made at the same place most of the popular brands are made. They’re very high quality”[close]
I got the same response from Folklore, an Australian company. They also said it was "confidential business propriety". Anyone know where they are made?
This is a post from the chap who runs Moonshine skateboards (who do Vert and freestyle boards, not Moonshine MFG who do longboards), showing a bit of the set up costs for deck runs. Unfortunately I did know who pressed them, but I've forgotten.
(https://i.imgur.com/YRZUaRH.png)
Cross posting but the Maxallure deck came a few days ago. 8.75” x 32.5” tape down x 14.5” wb. China wood? Dunno, just a size sticker on top back bolts and round indent at front.
(https://i.ibb.co/0B0dZjK/6525-ED79-C768-4-F47-82-C9-AB4-A936-DA656.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/7rwGSzQ/61-C10-CC3-C3-D5-4-E3-F-B3-A8-C85507-B946-B3.jpg)
Printed in Canada with deck imported from Mexico
This seems weird to me..Expand QuoteCross posting but the Maxallure deck came a few days ago. 8.75” x 32.5” tape down x 14.5” wb. China wood? Dunno, just a size sticker on top back bolts and round indent at front.
[mg width=500]https://i.ibb.co/0B0dZjK/6525-ED79-C768-4-F47-82-C9-AB4-A936-DA656.jpg[/img]
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i don't know if Maxallure boards production is the same for US and Europe.
But the ones we have in Europe/France have a big sticker covering the 4 bolt holes that says:QuoteExpand QuotePrinted in Canada with deck imported from Mexico[close]
With this combination Canada / US in Europe, i don't see why it would be different for US.
This seems weird to me..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCross posting but the Maxallure deck came a few days ago. 8.75” x 32.5” tape down x 14.5” wb. China wood? Dunno, just a size sticker on top back bolts and round indent at front.
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i don't know if Maxallure boards production is the same for US and Europe.
But the ones we have in Europe/France have a big sticker covering the 4 bolt holes that says:QuoteExpand QuotePrinted in Canada with deck imported from Mexico[close]
With this combination Canada / US in Europe, i don't see why it would be different for US.[close]
Not saying it untrue, just odd.
Made in TJ by BBS or Clutch? Fine..
Ship them to Canada for graphics? Seems really, really far..
And them ship them to Karl in the Bay Area? Double shipping costs..
Just doesn't make sense cuz there's plenty of places in Cali that do graphics
Do Canadian goods get taxed at a lower rate when imported to the EU?
Looking for a quick review of the Tactics Leisure League (8.125) and Sausage (8.0) decks, I got a shipment of stuff coming in, hopefully I can tag the whole lot of them in to save on shipping.from looking online they are bbs, but I had the ping pong deck and hated it, got soggy real fast compared to my death wish boards I was skating and there were these weird white pellets looking things in the wood grains that made the tail very chunky looking when it razor tailed. I’m thinking it was left over glue from being pressed?
Thanks pals.
from looking online they are bbs, but I had the ping pong deck and hated it, got soggy real fast compared to my death wish boards I was skating and there were these weird white pellets looking things in the wood grains that made the tail very chunky looking when it razor tailed. I’m thinking it was left over glue from being pressed?Expand QuoteLooking for a quick review of the Tactics Leisure League (8.125) and Sausage (8.0) decks, I got a shipment of stuff coming in, hopefully I can tag the whole lot of them in to save on shipping.
Thanks pals.[close]
Looking for a quick review of the Tactics Leisure League (8.125) and Sausage (8.0) decks, I got a shipment of stuff coming in, hopefully I can tag the whole lot of them in to save on shipping.
Thanks pals.
Hmm.. is it in the glue?from looking online they are bbs, but I had the ping pong deck and hated it, got soggy real fast compared to my death wish boards I was skating and there were these weird white pellets looking things in the wood grains that made the tail very chunky looking when it razor tailed. I’m thinking it was left over glue from being pressed?Expand QuoteLooking for a quick review of the Tactics Leisure League (8.125) and Sausage (8.0) decks, I got a shipment of stuff coming in, hopefully I can tag the whole lot of them in to save on shipping.
Thanks pals.[close]
Spacing Beads
Add these tiny glass spacers to structural and instant-bond adhesives to keep adhesive from squeezing out during clamping.
I didn't read the whole thing but lower import duties? Do other companies like Polar do the same thing? What's the Generator of Canada?Expand QuoteThis seems weird to me..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCross posting but the Maxallure deck came a few days ago. 8.75” x 32.5” tape down x 14.5” wb. China wood? Dunno, just a size sticker on top back bolts and round indent at front.
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i don't know if Maxallure boards production is the same for US and Europe.
But the ones we have in Europe/France have a big sticker covering the 4 bolt holes that says:QuoteExpand QuotePrinted in Canada with deck imported from Mexico[close]
With this combination Canada / US in Europe, i don't see why it would be different for US.[close]
Not saying it untrue, just odd.
Made in TJ by BBS or Clutch? Fine..
Ship them to Canada for graphics? Seems really, really far..
And them ship them to Karl in the Bay Area? Double shipping costs..
Just doesn't make sense cuz there's plenty of places in Cali that do graphics
Do Canadian goods get taxed at a lower rate when imported to the EU?[close]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Economic_and_Trade_Agreement
I'm fairly certain those Maxallure decks are China wood. They're pretty stiff and have the kind of lower pitched thud sound that makes me think they're epoxy rather than regular glue (not dwindle r7 though). The one I got is really heavy and so thick I thought it might be an 8-ply when I rook it out of the box. Used digital calipers and it's about a millimeter thicker than a PS deck, which might not sound like much but is pretty noticeable. I actually don't hate mine but it doesn't have great pop or a great shape and I'm not expecting it to last very long. That's kind of to be expected from a $20 deck though.thanks for the follow up. Funny u mention dwindle r7, that’s what I have now and gonna try this Maxallure next. Rain/cold on off this week sucks though. Was curious about the grip too, feels generic w the solid white backing. Haven’t set mine up yet but plan on soon. I’ll prob throw on a sheet of Jessup.
The free grip they sent with it is awful though. Tore and peeled on the very first upside down landing.
Sausage is control if I recall. Pretty sure I was going to buy one that was on closeout until I saw the sticker a while back. Not a fan of control wood, I've had two and both felt soggy pretty much right out of the plastic and sounded like a wet log hitting the ground. Some people like them but I gave both of mine away and avoid them completely now.
BBS decks can be hit or miss for me and it almost makes me wonder if they prioritize the bigger brands ... Like DLX and baker boys and the big companies get the best wood and smaller companies get the lower graded. Every AH and FA deck I have is great but I recently got a Theories deck that I just really didn't like much. It wasn't bad but didn't have quite the level of pop and stiffness that my other bbs decks have. It might just be a dud or the shape not working for me, but it was bad enough to make me wonder a little bit.
I'm fairly certain those Maxallure decks are China wood. They're pretty stiff and have the kind of lower pitched thud sound that makes me think they're epoxy rather than regular glue (not dwindle r7 though). The one I got is really heavy and so thick I thought it might be an 8-ply when I rook it out of the box. Used digital calipers and it's about a millimeter thicker than a PS deck, which might not sound like much but is pretty noticeable. I actually don't hate mine but it doesn't have great pop or a great shape and I'm not expecting it to last very long. That's kind of to be expected from a $20 deck though.
The free grip they sent with it is awful though. Tore and peeled on the very first upside down landing.
Expand QuoteSausage is control if I recall. Pretty sure I was going to buy one that was on closeout until I saw the sticker a while back. Not a fan of control wood, I've had two and both felt soggy pretty much right out of the plastic and sounded like a wet log hitting the ground. Some people like them but I gave both of mine away and avoid them completely now.
BBS decks can be hit or miss for me and it almost makes me wonder if they prioritize the bigger brands ... Like DLX and baker boys and the big companies get the best wood and smaller companies get the lower graded. Every AH and FA deck I have is great but I recently got a Theories deck that I just really didn't like much. It wasn't bad but didn't have quite the level of pop and stiffness that my other bbs decks have. It might just be a dud or the shape not working for me, but it was bad enough to make me wonder a little bit.
I'm fairly certain those Maxallure decks are China wood. They're pretty stiff and have the kind of lower pitched thud sound that makes me think they're epoxy rather than regular glue (not dwindle r7 though). The one I got is really heavy and so thick I thought it might be an 8-ply when I rook it out of the box. Used digital calipers and it's about a millimeter thicker than a PS deck, which might not sound like much but is pretty noticeable. I actually don't hate mine but it doesn't have great pop or a great shape and I'm not expecting it to last very long. That's kind of to be expected from a $20 deck though.
The free grip they sent with it is awful though. Tore and peeled on the very first upside down landing.[close]
Thanks man! Always appreciate the in-depth replies!
Do you know anything about Visual? Thinking of setting my 8.25 up next
Thanks man! Always appreciate the in-depth replies!
Do you know anything about Visual? Thinking of setting my 8.25 up next
The sausage boards I have are from Control and Clutch. Lurkville, older blvd/stereo/birdhouse were also clutch but i heard
stereo moved to prime and my last board from blvd seemed to be prime but it was warped a little. My recent lurkville deck
is also still clutch but it was a older graphic so im not sure if it was old stock or not. I had rode clutch boards for the last 5 years and
have not been let down by the quality. I now trying out decks from different woodshops to compare them. I have one from clutch, ps,
bbs, prime & control right now and want to get a hlc, dwindle & south central decks into the mix yet too.
Expand QuoteThis is a post from the chap who runs Moonshine skateboards (who do Vert and freestyle boards, not Moonshine MFG who do longboards), showing a bit of the set up costs for deck runs. Unfortunately I did know who pressed them, but I've forgotten.
(https://i.imgur.com/YRZUaRH.png)[close]
Moonshinevis drifter mfg out of north GA.
Drifter post a lot of process pics. They do a lot of work with moonshine. Drifter boards are solid, I don’t care for the shapes personally. Never had a moonshine.
Sausage is control if I recall. Pretty sure I was going to buy one that was on closeout until I saw the sticker a while back. Not a fan of control wood, I've had two and both felt soggy pretty much right out of the plastic and sounded like a wet log hitting the ground. Some people like them but I gave both of mine away and avoid them completely now.
BBS decks can be hit or miss for me and it almost makes me wonder if they prioritize the bigger brands ... Like DLX and baker boys and the big companies get the best wood and smaller companies get the lower graded. Every AH and FA deck I have is great but I recently got a Theories deck that I just really didn't like much. It wasn't bad but didn't have quite the level of pop and stiffness that my other bbs decks have. It might just be a dud or the shape not working for me, but it was bad enough to make me wonder a little bit.
I'm fairly certain those Maxallure decks are China wood. They're pretty stiff and have the kind of lower pitched thud sound that makes me think they're epoxy rather than regular glue (not dwindle r7 though). The one I got is really heavy and so thick I thought it might be an 8-ply when I rook it out of the box. Used digital calipers and it's about a millimeter thicker than a PS deck, which might not sound like much but is pretty noticeable. I actually don't hate mine but it doesn't have great pop or a great shape and I'm not expecting it to last very long. That's kind of to be expected from a $20 deck though.
The free grip they sent with it is awful though. Tore and peeled on the very first upside down landing.
Solved the Maxallure mystery (actually someone already answered it correctly a few pages back but I'm just confirming it now)cool thnx for the follow up tho. Just gonna ride it out, was cheap, see how I like the shape and dimensions.
It's PGI, which I believe is china wood with graphics printed in the US
https://panjiva.com/Pgi-Enterprises-Inc-1000-Beecher/29162368
cool thnx for the follow up tho. Just gonna ride it out, was cheap, see how I like the shape and dimensions.Expand QuoteSolved the Maxallure mystery (actually someone already answered it correctly a few pages back but I'm just confirming it now)
It's PGI, which I believe is china wood with graphics printed in the US
https://panjiva.com/Pgi-Enterprises-Inc-1000-Beecher/29162368[close]
Expand Quotecool thnx for the follow up tho. Just gonna ride it out, was cheap, see how I like the shape and dimensions.Expand QuoteSolved the Maxallure mystery (actually someone already answered it correctly a few pages back but I'm just confirming it now)
It's PGI, which I believe is china wood with graphics printed in the US
https://panjiva.com/Pgi-Enterprises-Inc-1000-Beecher/29162368[close][close]
Yeah it's not actually horrible wood or anything. I mean I don't expect it to last forever or anything but if I was someone who liked stiff and thick wood (ay yo wudup gay) then I'd be more than happy with it given how cheap it was. I wasn't blown away by the pop but it wasn't the worst I've skated either and I actually really like the shape, it's really flat and mellow...almost reminds me of the Toy Machine "mellow concave" mold actually. Really if it weren't a 14" WB I'd probably actually want to skate it more often but that factor combined with the weight and stiffness means I'll probably use mine as a wet weather/beater board or end up giving it to a lil homie that needs a new ride some day.
Anyone know any brands / woodshops do longer boards with shorter WB? The Folklore I was riding was amazing but the dimensions are pretty hard to find at 8 x 32 x 14, making them a perfect pair with Ventures.Try using the length search functions on warehouseskateboards, SoCal Skateshop, and skatepark of Tampa. I do this a lot if I'm looking for a particular size. Just don't take the sizes they list as gospel and try to confirm it with another source if you can, the information isn't always perfectly accurate
Closest I've seen is Magenta or Theories (8 x 31.875 x x 14.125), most brands do lengths between 31.6 to 31.75 and WB at 14 to 14.5 in come cases. Both brands are pretty hard to come by around my neck of the woods
Anyone know if the 8" x 31.66" 14" wheelbase Hockey Boards are PS stix anymore or are they only using BBS now? assuming same for FA 8.18"? I really liked my FA 8.18" - 14.06" wb as it wasn't as Flat as the same size from Quasi .Great question, I use to always see a split between PS & BBS, now I see the BBS sticker on every deck at my shop, which is good imo
but I would like something similar to that 8.18"
Anyone know if the 8" x 31.66" 14" wheelbase Hockey Boards are PS stix anymore or are they only using BBS now? assuming same for FA 8.18"? I really liked my FA 8.18" - 14.06" wb as it wasn't as Flat as the same size from Quasi .
but I would like something similar to that 8.18"
Expand QuoteAnyone know if the 8" x 31.66" 14" wheelbase Hockey Boards are PS stix anymore or are they only using BBS now? assuming same for FA 8.18"? I really liked my FA 8.18" - 14.06" wb as it wasn't as Flat as the same size from Quasi .
but I would like something similar to that 8.18"[close]
Everything is BBS now I'm pretty sure. The only PS ones in my local shop are old, everything from the last year or so has been BBS. I've had 2 of the BBS ones and I wouldn't worry about them being flat, both of mine are fairly deep (like most bbs decks).
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone know if the 8" x 31.66" 14" wheelbase Hockey Boards are PS stix anymore or are they only using BBS now? assuming same for FA 8.18"? I really liked my FA 8.18" - 14.06" wb as it wasn't as Flat as the same size from Quasi .
but I would like something similar to that 8.18"[close]
Everything is BBS now I'm pretty sure. The only PS ones in my local shop are old, everything from the last year or so has been BBS. I've had 2 of the BBS ones and I wouldn't worry about them being flat, both of mine are fairly deep (like most bbs decks).[close]
Awesome if true. Their BBS 8.3/8.5 shape is my go-to. Had my local order one last spring and it ended up being a PS (it was the Donovan 'Friend' graphic), way different dimensions than the BBS one, and a weirder overall shape.
confirmed via email from FA/Hockey. All decks are now BBS. they said they used to do half PS half BBS but have switched over to full BBS .
going to have to give one of these 8x31.66" 14" wheelbase boards a shot soon, I've only ridden the PS FA boards.
Can somebody recommend brand/shape similar to creature/sc powerply decks(steeper, longer tail and nose) produced in US or Mexico?
I really liked the shape of Gravette decks in 2012, but after some bad experience with dwindle and crailtap china boards, I'm not buying china boards ever again.
Pennswood press Revive boards still?
Talked to scumco over email. They told me that they most likely won't be using pennswood again. So this round of logo decks will most likely be the last according to them.thats a huge bummer
Very upset to hear this by the way.
Yep. The different methods make looking at length annoying.. I prefer trying to find wb and tail length info cuz that's what's important to me.Try using the length search functions on warehouseskateboards, SoCal Skateshop, and skatepark of Tampa. I do this a lot if I'm looking for a particular size. Just don't take the sizes they list as gospel and try to confirm it with another source if you can, the information isn't always perfectly accurateExpand QuoteAnyone know any brands / woodshops do longer boards with shorter WB? The Folklore I was riding was amazing but the dimensions are pretty hard to find at 8 x 32 x 14, making them a perfect pair with Ventures.
Closest I've seen is Magenta or Theories (8 x 31.875 x x 14.125), most brands do lengths between 31.6 to 31.75 and WB at 14 to 14.5 in come cases. Both brands are pretty hard to come by around my neck of the woods[close]
Also I know you know this but for anyone else reading be aware that some companies (mostly ones using PS) measure length differently, they include the concave rather than going tip to tip. I have a quasi that's listed as 32.25 but it's 31.75 tip to tip.
anyone know any shops or brands that use Point Dist out of Nevada?
Is it me or do BBS boards feel different from a few years back ?
Maybe I've been skating South Central and Chapman too much, but this Polar board I just bought feels soggy. Not PS Stix-soggy, but close. Shape's great though. I've had close to 10 Polar boards in the last 5-6 years, and from what I remember they use to feel stiffer. My friend's Anti Hero doesn't feel all that stiff either.
Expand Quote[close]Expand QuoteIs it me or do BBS boards feel different from a few years back ?
Not PS Stix-soggy, but close.[close]
Expand Quoteanyone know any shops or brands that use Point Dist out of Nevada?[close]
There's a local brand here called Troika that uses them. Not a big fan of the one I have, if I remember right they don't press anything they just print on blanks and claim they come from all over the place but I'm pretty sure its mostly chinese wood. Was ok for the first few sessions but lost its pop pretty quick. Shape was your run of the mill mellow 8.25 x 31.75 14.25wb, nothing interesting about it but nothing offensive either.
I really like Troika's graphics but I'm probably not going to get another one if its the same wood. It's just a little hobby brand for some local dudes/chicks and they're doing small runs so I understand why they'd want to keep costs down but there's too many other good options to choose from.
Just my two cents though, maybe the one I got was a dud and everything else is from some amazing hidden secret woodshop but I'll hold off until I see one from somewhere I recognize like clutch/bbs/ps/dwindle etc.
Does anyone know which woodshop Darkroom will be using?
He didExpand QuoteDoes anyone know which woodshop Darkroom will be using?[close]
Believe Pendleton said BBS in the comments of one of those IG posts.
He didExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone know which woodshop Darkroom will be using?[close]
Believe Pendleton said BBS in the comments of one of those IG posts.[close]
Excellent. Thanks dudes.Pretty hyped. Some of those shapes look like they may be similar to the Cardiel football that I love so much.Expand QuoteHe didExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone know which woodshop Darkroom will be using?[close]
Believe Pendleton said BBS in the comments of one of those IG posts.[close][close]
Back to Dwindle? Layout and 8.0 x 31.6 WB: 14 seem like Dwindle.speed demon wheels and slant trucks are pretty telling on the completes.
https://zeroskateboards.com/pages/d2-2020
https://www.instagram.com/p/B95DFc0leTX/
Ya. Drrh. I left out the most obvious evidence. 2nd drop and ppl haven't noticed? Not a hot commodity here, huh?speed demon wheels and slant trucks are pretty telling on the completes.Expand QuoteBack to Dwindle? Layout and 8.0 x 31.6 WB: 14 seem like Dwindle.
https://zeroskateboards.com/pages/d2-2020
https://www.instaram.com/p/B95DFc0leTX/[close]
i like skulls as much as the next guy but the chief never got my money. sure as hell wont nowYa. Drrh. I left out the most obvious evidence. 2nd drop and ppl haven't noticed? Not a hot commodity here, huh?Expand Quotespeed demon wheels and slant trucks are pretty telling on the completes.Expand QuoteBack to Dwindle? Layout and 8.0 x 31.6 WB: 14 seem like Dwindle.
https://zeroskateboards.com/pages/d2-2020
https://www.instaram.com/p/B95DFc0leTX/[close][close]
I got a second Beer City deck. I'm not sure which wood they use, but the first one was strong and a little heavy. This one also has made in USA stamped on it but had a Lazer engraved number near the truck holes. Does PS Stixx make anything in USA since I thought the number etching was their thing? Is there another shop that does this? The first one didn't have the numbers but both said "made in the USA". I'm enjoying it so far and the measurements are dead on from what the website says. I'm not sure if they're common enough for anyone to know which shop they use but I'd be curious to know.
I gripped it before I could take a picture, but no PS before the #. I don't think it's pennswood though because I've skated them before. Maybe South Central or Chapman.Expand QuoteI got a second Beer City deck. I'm not sure which wood they use, but the first one was strong and a little heavy. This one also has made in USA stamped on it but had a Lazer engraved number near the truck holes. Does PS Stixx make anything in USA since I thought the number etching was their thing? Is there another shop that does this? The first one didn't have the numbers but both said "made in the USA". I'm enjoying it so far and the measurements are dead on from what the website says. I'm not sure if they're common enough for anyone to know which shop they use but I'd be curious to know.[close]
Lots of places can do laser engraving. BBS does it from time to time, seems like they've been using it more lately. Some of the ScumCo and street plant Pennswood decks used to have it, but it was always a little logo and not a serial number. Can you take a pic of it? If it's PS the serial # will be PSxxx-xxxx with the x's being the mold and the number in the run the board is.
I don't think PS does anything in the states anymore but maybe they set up something for small runs, who knows. More than likely one of the US shops just got a new toy or they talked a local furniture factory into making a deck mold or something.
What is the deal with hopps? I have had 2 of their boards and they don't feel like any generator board I have ever had. Both were super soggy day 1 and both broke in 2- 3 sessions. I thought I read something since chapman went under they were using generator wood but somebody else was pressing them or something weird like that.
I emailed Theories of Atlantis awhile ago asking about Hopps' woodshop. The dude said all TOA are bonded at the TOA warehouse in Long Island using Generator wood. Hope that helps.Expand QuoteWhat is the deal with hopps? I have had 2 of their boards and they don't feel like any generator board I have ever had. Both were super soggy day 1 and both broke in 2- 3 sessions. I thought I read something since chapman went under they were using generator wood but somebody else was pressing them or something weird like that.[close]
When Chapman lost their woodshop, they started using Clutch to make all their boards. I've heard a rumor that they have their own woodshop again, but nothing to confirm that. Edit: can't cite where I heard said rumor, it could have also been some ad or email from them saying their boards were made in the USA.
My guess is that they either have their own shop again or the boards you had were Clutch. Was there any kind of stamp over your front truck? Clutch has a shape stamp, like "K7" or whatever.
Also, FWIW: Theories is pretty forward about saying that their own (Theories Brand) decks are BBS, but they don't say anything like that about Hopps on their store. I'm not a board breaker but every single Chapman I've ever had has gone to shit so fast.
Hi, i buy this Thank You Logo Team Deck this Month, it's by DSM/Dwindle.
Is Thank You move to Dwindle?, my Torey, Deawon Pro Deck are by PS Stix.
is business and company bbs or ps?
is business and company bbs or ps?All BBS
I'm eyeing some sales, and they have Hockey boards with the warning sticker. BBS wood then?
Ive been riding a antihero full 8.25 x 32.2 w. Wb 14.5 this year. Really liked the BBS wood but figured i should try a ’normal’ size 8.25 next time that is a little shorter in wb & length. At 6.5” with indys what brands should i look at?
Hi, i buy this Thank You Logo Team Deck this Month, it's by DSM/Dwindle.
Is Thank You move to Dwindle?, my Torey, Deawon Pro Deck are by PS Stix.
Are DGK price point decks made in DSM / China? Just saw this local listing, the Resin 7 plus the laser etching looks like the one you see on Almost / Darkstar / Blind.
(https://media.karousell.com/media/photos/products/2020/03/29/dgk_size_8_skateboard_1585460201_03d8f8c8_progressive.jpg)
Been a long time since I skated a girl or chocolate. Like since I was a kid. I really like the look of those “original chunk” chocolates and the different stains they blend on the bottom ply. Anyone skate their boards in 2020 and are they any good?seconded. do want to try out one of their shapes if the wood will last a bit
Expand QuoteIve been riding a antihero full 8.25 x 32.2 w. Wb 14.5 this year. Really liked the BBS wood but figured i should try a ’normal’ size 8.25 next time that is a little shorter in wb & length. At 6.5” with indys what brands should i look at?[close]
Antihero has an 8.28 x 31.7 shape that's really good, I think the WB is 14.25. I just recently got a Blood Wizard that's 8.25 x 31.6 14" wb thats a little mellower than most BBS decks and I like it a lot.
8.25 x 31.75 14.25wb is kind of the standard, so most companies will offer something in that range. You can search by length and WB on SPoT, Skate Warehouse and Warehouse Skateboards and tactics and socal have the info on the product page as well.
For BBS 8.25 there's also..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIve been riding a antihero full 8.25 x 32.2 w. Wb 14.5 this year. Really liked the BBS wood but figured i should try a ’normal’ size 8.25 next time that is a little shorter in wb & length. At 6.5” with indys what brands should i look at?[close]
Antihero has an 8.28 x 31.7 shape that's really good, I think the WB is 14.25. I just recently got a Blood Wizard that's 8.25 x 31.6 14" wb thats a little mellower than most BBS decks and I like it a lot.
8.25 x 31.75 14.25wb is kind of the standard, so most companies will offer something in that range. You can search by length and WB on SPoT, Skate Warehouse and Warehouse Skateboards and tactics and socal have the info on the product page as well.[close]
The AH 8.28 has a 14.12” wheelbase. I bought 3 I liked it so much. I tried it with Indy 144 standards, Indy 144 hollows, and thunder 147s and liked it on thunders the most.
business and company have an 8.5/14 wb on bbs woodFor BBS 8.25 there's also..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIve been riding a antihero full 8.25 x 32.2 w. Wb 14.5 this year. Really liked the BBS wood but figured i should try a ’normal’ size 8.25 next time that is a little shorter in wb & length. At 6.5” with indys what brands should i look at?[close]
Antihero has an 8.28 x 31.7 shape that's really good, I think the WB is 14.25. I just recently got a Blood Wizard that's 8.25 x 31.6 14" wb thats a little mellower than most BBS decks and I like it a lot.
8.25 x 31.75 14.25wb is kind of the standard, so most companies will offer something in that range. You can search by length and WB on SPoT, Skate Warehouse and Warehouse Skateboards and tactics and socal have the info on the product page as well.[close]
The AH 8.28 has a 14.12” wheelbase. I bought 3 I liked it so much. I tried it with Indy 144 standards, Indy 144 hollows, and thunder 147s and liked it on thunders the most.[close]
Polar. 14.125" wb. Think it's on the steep concave but not sure
Primitive and April, 14" wb. Mellow cave with symmetrical nose/tail kicks (Positive primitive is, assuming April uses mellow too). Last time I checked the listed dimensions were the same or really close. Might be the same shape?
China wood..
2 Crail/Girl shapes w/ 14" wb? But 1 is tapered?
Santa Cruz w/ 14.125" wb
Dwindle pricepoint deck, 14" wb
How about wider decks with similar wb?
8.375-8.8"? 14.25" wb or shorter (13.75-14.25")
Most interested in 8.5's w/ 14" wb. BBS wood..
business and company have an 8.5/14 wb on bbs woodExpand QuoteFor BBS 8.25 there's also..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIve been riding a antihero full 8.25 x 32.2 w. Wb 14.5 this year. Really liked the BBS wood but figured i should try a ’normal’ size 8.25 next time that is a little shorter in wb & length. At 6.5” with indys what brands should i look at?[close]
Antihero has an 8.28 x 31.7 shape that's really good, I think the WB is 14.25. I just recently got a Blood Wizard that's 8.25 x 31.6 14" wb thats a little mellower than most BBS decks and I like it a lot.
8.25 x 31.75 14.25wb is kind of the standard, so most companies will offer something in that range. You can search by length and WB on SPoT, Skate Warehouse and Warehouse Skateboards and tactics and socal have the info on the product page as well.[close]
The AH 8.28 has a 14.12” wheelbase. I bought 3 I liked it so much. I tried it with Indy 144 standards, Indy 144 hollows, and thunder 147s and liked it on thunders the most.[close]
Polar. 14.125" wb. Think it's on the steep concave but not sure
Primitive and April, 14" wb. Mellow cave with symmetrical nose/tail kicks (Positive primitive is, assuming April uses mellow too). Last time I checked the listed dimensions were the same or really close. Might be the same shape?
China wood..
2 Crail/Girl shapes w/ 14" wb? But 1 is tapered?
Santa Cruz w/ 14.125" wb
Dwindle pricepoint deck, 14" wb
How about wider decks with similar wb?
8.375-8.8"? 14.25" wb or shorter (13.75-14.25")
Most interested in 8.5's w/ 14" wb. BBS wood..[close]
I'm in the same boat but boards lasting longer is making it a slow process. Been thinking quiver to speed things up. I'm liking BBS so I planned on Alien 8.5-8.75 w/ 14.25 wb. But, yeah, then I noticed Business and Co doing 14" wb.. And Primitive doing a 8.6 w/ 14" wb, I couldn't resist it on sale..Expand Quotebusiness and company have an 8.5/14 wb on bbs woodExpand QuoteFor BBS 8.25 there's also..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIve been riding a antihero full 8.25 x 32.2 w. Wb 14.5 this year. Really liked the BBS wood but figured i should try a ’normal’ size 8.25 next time that is a little shorter in wb & length. At 6.5” with indys what brands should i look at?[close]
Antihero has an 8.28 x 31.7 shape that's really good, I think the WB is 14.25. I just recently got a Blood Wizard that's 8.25 x 31.6 14" wb thats a little mellower than most BBS decks and I like it a lot.
8.25 x 31.75 14.25wb is kind of the standard, so most companies will offer something in that range. You can search by length and WB on SPoT, Skate Warehouse and Warehouse Skateboards and tactics and socal have the info on the product page as well.[close]
The AH 8.28 has a 14.12” wheelbase. I bought 3 I liked it so much. I tried it with Indy 144 standards, Indy 144 hollows, and thunder 147s and liked it on thunders the most.[close]
Polar. 14.125" wb. Think it's on the steep concave but not sure
Primitive and April, 14" wb. Mellow cave with symmetrical nose/tail kicks (Positive primitive is, assuming April uses mellow too). Last time I checked the listed dimensions were the same or really close. Might be the same shape?
China wood..
2 Crail/Girl shapes w/ 14" wb? But 1 is tapered?
Santa Cruz w/ 14.125" wb
Dwindle pricepoint deck, 14" wb
How about wider decks with similar wb?
8.375-8.8"? 14.25" wb or shorter (13.75-14.25")
Most interested in 8.5's w/ 14" wb. BBS wood..[close][close]
honestly was coming here to talk about pretty much the same stuff
im still in the process of moving up to wider boards. 8/14, 8.25/14.5, 8.375/14.4—didnt really feel right for me.
at the moment really enjoying my 8.5/14.25 Quasi
now im seriously eyeing the AWS 8.75/14.25 as the next step
then again, this is probably all in my head
Expand QuoteIve been riding a antihero full 8.25 x 32.2 w. Wb 14.5 this year. Really liked the BBS wood but figured i should try a ’normal’ size 8.25 next time that is a little shorter in wb & length. At 6.5” with indys what brands should i look at?[close]
Antihero has an 8.28 x 31.7 shape that's really good, I think the WB is 14.25. I just recently got a Blood Wizard that's 8.25 x 31.6 14" wb thats a little mellower than most BBS decks and I like it a lot.
8.25 x 31.75 14.25wb is kind of the standard, so most companies will offer something in that range. You can search by length and WB on SPoT, Skate Warehouse and Warehouse Skateboards and tactics and socal have the info on the product page as well.
Is there any other woodshop with the quality like BBS? Really happy with the feel of my antihero, just asking to broaden my options as we dont have as big range of brands/models here in Sweden.
Been thinking about a Polar but dont want a high concave also the 14.125 WB might be too short at my height when setup with indys.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/story/2020-03-28/in-tijuana-video-address-mexicos-president-toughens-coronavirus-stanceThoughts?
Thoughts? Sounds like factories in TJ don't have to shutdown. Anyone know if BBS, PS Stix, and/or Clutch are still running?
And given the split here between skating and not skating.. What are your thoughts about them staying open? If they are..
Edit.. Also factor in this lasting for over a year. And Mexico's healthcare system, social infrastructure, and the basic needs vs income of a factory worker with a family.
anyone know what wood is used for no comply shop decks? or any shop decks really. i tried searching i couldn't find anything
roger is clutchExpand Quoteanyone know what wood is used for no comply shop decks? or any shop decks really. i tried searching i couldn't find anything[close]
I’ve asked before because I know no comply and roger are the same wood shop. It’s not bbs or south central and if I remember the wheelbases were kinda big.
Maybe clutch?
Hit up pugwizard on insta he’s pretty good about answering questions
roger is clutchExpand QuoteExpand Quoteanyone know what wood is used for no comply shop decks? or any shop decks really. i tried searching i couldn't find anything[close]
I’ve asked before because I know no comply and roger are the same wood shop. It’s not bbs or south central and if I remember the wheelbases were kinda big.
Maybe clutch?
Hit up pugwizard on insta he’s pretty good about answering questions[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIve been riding a antihero full 8.25 x 32.2 w. Wb 14.5 this year. Really liked the BBS wood but figured i should try a ’normal’ size 8.25 next time that is a little shorter in wb & length. At 6.5” with indys what brands should i look at?[close]
Antihero has an 8.28 x 31.7 shape that's really good, I think the WB is 14.25. I just recently got a Blood Wizard that's 8.25 x 31.6 14" wb thats a little mellower than most BBS decks and I like it a lot.
8.25 x 31.75 14.25wb is kind of the standard, so most companies will offer something in that range. You can search by length and WB on SPoT, Skate Warehouse and Warehouse Skateboards and tactics and socal have the info on the product page as well.[close]
Is there any other woodshop with the quality like BBS? Really happy with the feel of my antihero, just asking to broaden my options as we dont have as big range of brands/models here in Sweden.
Been thinking about a Polar but dont want a high concave also the 14.125 WB might be too short at my height when setup with indys.
I'm hoping some of you guys might be able to help me out. I'm pretty sure my perfect deck would be if alien made their 8.25 shape but scaled down to 32 in length instead of 32.25 and 14in wb instead of 14.25. Any suggestions on companies with dimensions like that? It seems primitive are one of the options but i'd like to see if there's anything else out there.
Edit: After searching some girl has a shape that is Extremely close to what i am thinking. Just not sure about their board quality I haven't tried one in a few years
LENGTH (IN): 31.875
WHEELBASE (IN): 14.0
NOSE (IN): 6.875
TAIL (IN): 6.8
Expand QuoteI'm hoping some of you guys might be able to help me out. I'm pretty sure my perfect deck would be if alien made their 8.25 shape but scaled down to 32 in length instead of 32.25 and 14in wb instead of 14.25. Any suggestions on companies with dimensions like that? It seems primitive are one of the options but i'd like to see if there's anything else out there.
Edit: After searching some girl has a shape that is Extremely close to what i am thinking. Just not sure about their board quality I haven't tried one in a few years
LENGTH (IN): 31.875
WHEELBASE (IN): 14.0
NOSE (IN): 6.875
TAIL (IN): 6.8[close]
Does primitive have an 8.25 with 14wb? I thought they might have switched their shapes a bit, and haven’t updated the site. Could be wrong.
Girl/Choco wood is decent rn imo. I’ve liked my last few just as much as any other board I’ve had recently (I usually get fa/anti hero etc etc, both bbs and ps). Their shapes are great. The Simon B. Board I had recently would be real close to what you are asking for.
Business & Company have 14” wb boards. I haven’t tried one but they look sick.
Anyone have experience with visit decks?
Does Powell have their own wood shop? They use to say this back in the 80’s and 90’s...not sure about these days...also don’t they make some other brand too?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm hoping some of you guys might be able to help me out. I'm pretty sure my perfect deck would be if alien made their 8.25 shape but scaled down to 32 in length instead of 32.25 and 14in wb instead of 14.25. Any suggestions on companies with dimensions like that? It seems primitive are one of the options but i'd like to see if there's anything else out there.
Edit: After searching some girl has a shape that is Extremely close to what i am thinking. Just not sure about their board quality I haven't tried one in a few years
LENGTH (IN): 31.875
WHEELBASE (IN): 14.0
NOSE (IN): 6.875
TAIL (IN): 6.8[close]
Does primitive have an 8.25 with 14wb? I thought they might have switched their shapes a bit, and haven’t updated the site. Could be wrong.
Girl/Choco wood is decent rn imo. I’ve liked my last few just as much as any other board I’ve had recently (I usually get fa/anti hero etc etc, both bbs and ps). Their shapes are great. The Simon B. Board I had recently would be real close to what you are asking for.
Business & Company have 14” wb boards. I haven’t tried one but they look sick.[close]
I guess i'm not sure, I only looked at primitive a few months ago but they may have changed. I think might give a girl board a shot then, I was only concerned because I mainly stick to bbs companies. And B&C looks great but the overall length on them is really short the 8.25 is 31.37 inches. Thanks for the feedback
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm hoping some of you guys might be able to help me out. I'm pretty sure my perfect deck would be if alien made their 8.25 shape but scaled down to 32 in length instead of 32.25 and 14in wb instead of 14.25. Any suggestions on companies with dimensions like that? It seems primitive are one of the options but i'd like to see if there's anything else out there.
Edit: After searching some girl has a shape that is Extremely close to what i am thinking. Just not sure about their board quality I haven't tried one in a few years
LENGTH (IN): 31.875
WHEELBASE (IN): 14.0
NOSE (IN): 6.875
TAIL (IN): 6.8[close]
Does primitive have an 8.25 with 14wb? I thought they might have switched their shapes a bit, and haven’t updated the site. Could be wrong.
Girl/Choco wood is decent rn imo. I’ve liked my last few just as much as any other board I’ve had recently (I usually get fa/anti hero etc etc, both bbs and ps). Their shapes are great. The Simon B. Board I had recently would be real close to what you are asking for.
Business & Company have 14” wb boards. I haven’t tried one but they look sick.[close]
I guess i'm not sure, I only looked at primitive a few months ago but they may have changed. I think might give a girl board a shot then, I was only concerned because I mainly stick to bbs companies. And B&C looks great but the overall length on them is really short the 8.25 is 31.37 inches. Thanks for the feedback[close]
Just bought a primitive 8.25 and can confirm that it's still the same measurement
8.25x31.915/14 wb/6.8 nose/6.7 tail
One of the best shapes I've ever ride. Nice room on both nose and tail but not too blunt, medium mellow kick.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm hoping some of you guys might be able to help me out. I'm pretty sure my perfect deck would be if alien made their 8.25 shape but scaled down to 32 in length instead of 32.25 and 14in wb instead of 14.25. Any suggestions on companies with dimensions like that? It seems primitive are one of the options but i'd like to see if there's anything else out there.
Edit: After searching some girl has a shape that is Extremely close to what i am thinking. Just not sure about their board quality I haven't tried one in a few years
LENGTH (IN): 31.875
WHEELBASE (IN): 14.0
NOSE (IN): 6.875
TAIL (IN): 6.8[close]
Does primitive have an 8.25 with 14wb? I thought they might have switched their shapes a bit, and haven’t updated the site. Could be wrong.
Girl/Choco wood is decent rn imo. I’ve liked my last few just as much as any other board I’ve had recently (I usually get fa/anti hero etc etc, both bbs and ps). Their shapes are great. The Simon B. Board I had recently would be real close to what you are asking for.
Business & Company have 14” wb boards. I haven’t tried one but they look sick.[close]
I guess i'm not sure, I only looked at primitive a few months ago but they may have changed. I think might give a girl board a shot then, I was only concerned because I mainly stick to bbs companies. And B&C looks great but the overall length on them is really short the 8.25 is 31.37 inches. Thanks for the feedback[close]
Just bought a primitive 8.25 and can confirm that it's still the same measurement
8.25x31.915/14 wb/6.8 nose/6.7 tail
One of the best shapes I've ever ride. Nice room on both nose and tail but not too blunt, medium mellow kick.
Primitive 8.25” shape is the shit🔥 Too bad it comes with Primitive graphics...Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm hoping some of you guys might be able to help me out. I'm pretty sure my perfect deck would be if alien made their 8.25 shape but scaled down to 32 in length instead of 32.25 and 14in wb instead of 14.25. Any suggestions on companies with dimensions like that? It seems primitive are one of the options but i'd like to see if there's anything else out there.
Edit: After searching some girl has a shape that is Extremely close to what i am thinking. Just not sure about their board quality I haven't tried one in a few years
LENGTH (IN): 31.875
WHEELBASE (IN): 14.0
NOSE (IN): 6.875
TAIL (IN): 6.8[close]
Does primitive have an 8.25 with 14wb? I thought they might have switched their shapes a bit, and haven’t updated the site. Could be wrong.
Girl/Choco wood is decent rn imo. I’ve liked my last few just as much as any other board I’ve had recently (I usually get fa/anti hero etc etc, both bbs and ps). Their shapes are great. The Simon B. Board I had recently would be real close to what you are asking for.
Business & Company have 14” wb boards. I haven’t tried one but they look sick.[close]
I guess i'm not sure, I only looked at primitive a few months ago but they may have changed. I think might give a girl board a shot then, I was only concerned because I mainly stick to bbs companies. And B&C looks great but the overall length on them is really short the 8.25 is 31.37 inches. Thanks for the feedback[close]
Just bought a primitive 8.25 and can confirm that it's still the same measurement
8.25x31.915/14 wb/6.8 nose/6.7 tail
One of the best shapes I've ever ride. Nice room on both nose and tail but not too blunt, medium mellow kick.
Expand QuoteMy local references the 8.75” as a “K” shape (or mold?) which they’ve said is a standard popsicle. Is that clutch? The wb was crazy long from what I remember measuring in store. They also have 8-8.5” decks but also square options for the same sizes. Any ideas?[close]
Could be clutch they do have a K shape. I’ve been riding the O shape in 8.5 and I love it. Check out clutches insta @clutchdistribution. Also have you asked your local? I’m sure they’d let you know.
Girl/Chocolate is DSM nowBold claim, any proof?
i work for a distro in Russia. All boards dropping in May made in DSM from now on.Thank you! I’m skating girl/chocolate boards rn and can’t complain, excited for the new drop.
i work for a distro in Russia. All boards dropping in May made in DSM from now on.
https://www.clutchdistribution.com/shapes.htmlExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMy local references the 8.75” as a “K” shape (or mold?) which they’ve said is a standard popsicle. Is that clutch? The wb was crazy long from what I remember measuring in store. They also have 8-8.5” decks but also square options for the same sizes. Any ideas?[close]
Could be clutch they do have a K shape. I’ve been riding the O shape in 8.5 and I love it. Check out clutches insta @clutchdistribution. Also have you asked your local? I’m sure they’d let you know.[close]
Continuing this from the 2019 thread to try and keep things in one place.
I'm sure I've posted this before but for those who haven't seen it here's the clutch shapes
https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes
That should help to identify clutch/Chapman decks and/or give people an idea of what their options are.
And I'm with you on the O shape. I'm on my second one — an 8.25 Hotel Blue monkeys deck (first was an 8.38 coda) and I love it. If the tail was slightly mellower and it was 31.5 length it would probably be one of my favorite decks ever.
Expand Quotei work for a distro in Russia. All boards dropping in May made in DSM from now on.[close]
DSM for Russia only or everywhere else as well ?
I'm cool with that, I hate Crail wood.
8.5's w 14" wb are my favorite, but i feel like super hard to come by
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIve been riding a antihero full 8.25 x 32.2 w. Wb 14.5 this year. Really liked the BBS wood but figured i should try a ’normal’ size 8.25 next time that is a little shorter in wb & length. At 6.5” with indys what brands should i look at?[close]
Antihero has an 8.28 x 31.7 shape that's really good, I think the WB is 14.25. I just recently got a Blood Wizard that's 8.25 x 31.6 14" wb thats a little mellower than most BBS decks and I like it a lot.
8.25 x 31.75 14.25wb is kind of the standard, so most companies will offer something in that range. You can search by length and WB on SPoT, Skate Warehouse and Warehouse Skateboards and tactics and socal have the info on the product page as well.[close]
Is there any other woodshop with the quality like BBS? Really happy with the feel of my antihero, just asking to broaden my options as we dont have as big range of brands/models here in Sweden.
Been thinking about a Polar but dont want a high concave also the 14.125 WB might be too short at my height when setup with indys.
A Numbers board E5 would be PS or BBS?
Northern Co still South Central?
Probably been discussed at some point already, but are all nhs decks now made in dsm?Yes
Anyone know who does Pet Skateboards? Its a small brand but they have a lot of unique shapes and sizes that you don't really see like 8.625 x 31.25. I sent them a DM but they never responded.all their decks are sub $40 so id assume its not top tier wood
I've been thinking about trying one for a while but if the wood is good I'd be a lot more likely to take the plunge.
Also does anyone know of companies doing an 8.38 x 31.5 or shorter length?
all their decks are sub $40 so id assume its not top tier woodExpand QuoteAnyone know who does Pet Skateboards? Its a small brand but they have a lot of unique shapes and sizes that you don't really see like 8.625 x 31.25. I sent them a DM but they never responded.
I've been thinking about trying one for a while but if the wood is good I'd be a lot more likely to take the plunge.
Also does anyone know of companies doing an 8.38 x 31.5 or shorter length?[close]
Expand Quoteall their decks are sub $40 so id assume its not top tier woodExpand QuoteAnyone know who does Pet Skateboards? Its a small brand but they have a lot of unique shapes and sizes that you don't really see like 8.625 x 31.25. I sent them a DM but they never responded.
I've been thinking about trying one for a while but if the wood is good I'd be a lot more likely to take the plunge.
Also does anyone know of companies doing an 8.38 x 31.5 or shorter length?[close][close]
They do have some interesting dimensions, and I’ve looked at several on the 35th site for that reason.
I didn’t know they were a kook brand.
There is doomsayers board that has a shape close to what ye seek. My one and only DS board was really great. Noticeably better than the boards I had right before or after.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteall their decks are sub $40 so id assume its not top tier woodExpand QuoteAnyone know who does Pet Skateboards? Its a small brand but they have a lot of unique shapes and sizes that you don't really see like 8.625 x 31.25. I sent them a DM but they never responded.
I've been thinking about trying one for a while but if the wood is good I'd be a lot more likely to take the plunge.
Also does anyone know of companies doing an 8.38 x 31.5 or shorter length?[close][close]
They do have some interesting dimensions, and I’ve looked at several on the 35th site for that reason.
I didn’t know they were a kook brand.
There is doomsayers board that has a shape close to what ye seek. My one and only DS board was really great. Noticeably better than the boards I had right before or after.[close]
Just talking shit. Never even heard of them before.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteall their decks are sub $40 so id assume its not top tier woodExpand QuoteAnyone know who does Pet Skateboards? Its a small brand but they have a lot of unique shapes and sizes that you don't really see like 8.625 x 31.25. I sent them a DM but they never responded.
I've been thinking about trying one for a while but if the wood is good I'd be a lot more likely to take the plunge.
Also does anyone know of companies doing an 8.38 x 31.5 or shorter length?[close][close]
They do have some interesting dimensions, and I’ve looked at several on the 35th site for that reason.
I didn’t know they were a kook brand.
There is doomsayers board that has a shape close to what ye seek. My one and only DS board was really great. Noticeably better than the boards I had right before or after.[close]
Just talking shit. Never even heard of them before.[close]
Idk anything about Pet, but it’s pretty easy sale a board at the 35-40 percent range, still use a good wood shop, and still make good margins. Revive uses clutch and they do it.
Pretty much any top tier brand, could sale direct to consumer at like 40 bucks and be fine. It’d just piss all the shops off and distributors off.
Anyone know who does Pet Skateboards? Its a small brand but they have a lot of unique shapes and sizes that you don't really see like 8.625 x 31.25. I sent them a DM but they never responded.I’ve had 2 of their boards. It’s a mix of clutch and drifter if I remember correctly. Last one I had felt nice and snappy. Got soggy relatively quick however.
I've been thinking about trying one for a while but if the wood is good I'd be a lot more likely to take the plunge.
Also does anyone know of companies doing an 8.38 x 31.5 or shorter length?
Could someone explain what a price point board is ?Price point = cheaper board with little less quality. They achieve this by using only one color paint and the second one is the veneer. Sometimes they do those boards on different (crappier) factories too. Eagles are not PP boards so don't worry about that.
I knew I wanted to grab a DLX board so I ordered a anti hero. Choice for the size I wanted was limited to just one board team classic eagle 8.06. Would this be a price point board ? I do see they this deck is in all their catalogs so its not a limited run or anything like that.
Thanks
EDIT.. Ordered from Germany and have not received the board so can't say if it shows where it was made yet
Price point = cheaper board with little less quality. They achieve this by using only one color paint and the second one is the veneer. Sometimes they do those boards on different (crappier) factories too. Eagles are not PP boards so don't worry about that.Expand QuoteCould someone explain what a price point board is ?
I knew I wanted to grab a DLX board so I ordered a anti hero. Choice for the size I wanted was limited to just one board team classic eagle 8.06. Would this be a price point board ? I do see they this deck is in all their catalogs so its not a limited run or anything like that.
Thanks
EDIT.. Ordered from Germany and have not received the board so can't say if it shows where it was made yet[close]
What's the word on the hand screened "Made in the USA" Toy Machine decks?
i’ve never skated a 5boro deck or South Central wood. i’ve really only been on bbs or ps in recent memory.
anybody have an opinion??
i’ve never skated a 5boro deck or South Central wood. i’ve really only been on bbs or ps in recent memory.
anybody have an opinion??
Does anyone know what woodshoop Orchard skate shop uses for shop decks?
Does anyone know what woodshoop Orchard skate shop uses for shop decks?
Expand Quotei’ve never skated a 5boro deck or South Central wood. i’ve really only been on bbs or ps in recent memory.
anybody have an opinion??[close]
. It's a really unique wood that has kind of muffled sound and sometimes feels a little soft to me but it pops high and it feels like it kind of "floats" more than other decks.
i’ve never skated a 5boro deck or South Central wood. i’ve really only been on bbs or ps in recent memory.
anybody have an opinion??
What, if anything, do we know about the Burger Skateboards that just popped up as a top of page banner ad on here? Or maybe it was over at the Thrasher site, I can’t keep these things straight anymore.
Who presses those up?
Anybody on here actually try the wood yet?
There’s an 8.75 shape w/ a 14.5 WB that I’m curious about.
Graphics are gross, but the price seems alright if the wood’s got the goods.
Anyone recommend some mellow decks besides Toy/Foundation? Skating a Creature right now and its too steep for meim yet to ride a baker that wasnt too mellow for my liking
Anyone recommend some mellow decks besides Toy/Foundation? Skating a Creature right now and its too steep for me
Anyone recommend some mellow decks besides Toy/Foundation? Skating a Creature right now and its too steep for mekicks or concave? the quasi 8.25s I've been riding feel really flat when it comes to concave, not sure about the kicks though.
Expand QuoteAnyone recommend some mellow decks besides Toy/Foundation? Skating a Creature right now and its too steep for me[close]
Hate the graphics, but Powell boards are super mellow. I am skating a couple Mini Logo (8" and 8.5") because I love the shape and would rather have blanks than most of the graphics they put out. The wood isn't as nice, but you can buy them twice as often for the same price.
Ok... now everyone go on hating on Mini Logo. I can take it.
kicks or concave? the quasi 8.25s I've been riding feel really flat when it comes to concave, not sure about the kicks though.Expand QuoteAnyone recommend some mellow decks besides Toy/Foundation? Skating a Creature right now and its too steep for me[close]
Can't wait forspicy. keep it going pals
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How's the concave on WKND boards? Just picked up 2 in 8.18 x 32 x 14 which is pretty close to my ideal dimensions. In pictures the nose and tail look pretty full which is new to me.PS stix tends to be flat.
I got a fa deck just recently and it had the black and white sticker but it had a laser etched fa dog design between the front truck holes. the sticker was placed above that. Is it ps stix bc of the design?Expand QuoteHow can you tell if a Hockey deck is PS wood or BBS wood?[close]
The warning sticker is what I look at first, but if you bought it recently then it's probably BBS. The sticker that was on all my bbs hockey/FA decks is black and white while the one PS uses is red and white and a little bigger.
Also, I don't remember if this applies to Hockey/FA but usually PS decks have a laser-etched serial number between the front truck holes and the sticker will be placed above it while BBS decks usually have the warning sticker placed between the front truck holes. The color thing doesn't apply to all decks either, as BBS does use red/white stickers (as well as customized ones) for a lot of boards. If you have any questions about a particular deck you can always try emailing the company and asking or posting it here and seeing if anyone else has one and can tell you.
Smartass when you get a chance can you remove Troika from Pennswood? I was wrong about that one, they only used them for one small run a long time ago and I highly doubt there's any floating around. They now use Point distribution which I believe sources decks from a variety of manufacturers. I know they're a tiny local company that you'll almost certainly never see outside of a Pittsburgh shop, but I don't want anyone to buy one under the impression they're getting Pennswood and end up with something totally different.
PS stix tends to be flat.Expand QuoteHow's the concave on WKND boards? Just picked up 2 in 8.18 x 32 x 14 which is pretty close to my ideal dimensions. In pictures the nose and tail look pretty full which is new to me.[close]
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I really appreciate this.
I hate when you ask a brand about their wood and they give some non answer. Anyone who cares enough to ask this knows how the sausage is made. If you’re not comfortable speaking about your wood shop, you need a different wood shop.
I fucking hate when you askin
How's the concave on WKND boards? Just picked up 2 in 8.18 x 32 x 14 which is pretty close to my ideal dimensions. In pictures the nose and tail look pretty full which is new to me.
Expand QuoteHow's the concave on WKND boards? Just picked up 2 in 8.18 x 32 x 14 which is pretty close to my ideal dimensions. In pictures the nose and tail look pretty full which is new to me.[close]
I'd call it a medium. As mentioned before PS tend to have a little less concave than some other woodshops, but my WKND boards aren't as flat as some other PS ones I have. Nose is pretty full but I think there's 2 shapes they use, one of which has a little wider more shovel-y nose. Just beware I'm almost positive that 32" is with concave, so tip to tip is probably around 31.6-31.75. Both of the newer ones I have are around 31.75 but there is an older shape that that's 31.5 and has a crazy big steep nose. Naturally since it's one of my favorite shapes ever they don't seem to make them anymore. All of the ones I've tried have been really good though, the nose makes them very flick-able.
spicy. keep it going palsExpand QuoteCan't wait for
Liver & Onions Skateboards
Ratatouille Skateboards
Powdered Milk Skateboards
Decaffeinated Instant Coffee Skateboards[close]
fentanyl skateboards
I’d buy a nice Tuna CasseroleExpand Quotespicy. keep it going palsExpand QuoteCan't wait for
Liver & Onions Skateboards
Ratatouille Skateboards
Powdered Milk Skateboards
Decaffeinated Instant Coffee Skateboards[close]
fentanyl skateboards[close]
Bechamel Board Co.
Almond Sliver Skateboards
Broiled Boards
Caramelized Aroma Skateboards
Can we confirm quasi acid pop problem? Was looking forward too that deck, but I've been hearing problems sporadiclyi have seen said complaints about the acid ply decks but I have been running this JJ Jesus graphic one for 4 weeks and have no complaints. I also have the GC acid ply 8.25 in the unskated stack, looks perfectly fine.
please don't tell me OP actually believed acid ply made you pop higheri have seen said complaints about the acid ply decks but I have been running this JJ Jesus graphic one for 4 weeks and have no complaints. I also have the GC acid ply 8.25 in the unskated stack, looks perfectly fine.Expand QuoteCan we confirm quasi acid pop problem? Was looking forward too that deck, but I've been hearing problems sporadicly[close]
please don't tell me OP actually believed acid ply made you pop higherExpand Quotei have seen said complaints about the acid ply decks but I have been running this JJ Jesus graphic one for 4 weeks and have no complaints. I also have the GC acid ply 8.25 in the unskated stack, looks perfectly fine.Expand QuoteCan we confirm quasi acid pop problem? Was looking forward too that deck, but I've been hearing problems sporadicly[close][close]
Expand Quoteplease don't tell me OP actually believed acid ply made you pop higherExpand Quotei have seen said complaints about the acid ply decks but I have been running this JJ Jesus graphic one for 4 weeks and have no complaints. I also have the GC acid ply 8.25 in the unskated stack, looks perfectly fine.Expand QuoteCan we confirm quasi acid pop problem? Was looking forward too that deck, but I've been hearing problems sporadicly[close][close][close]
I have the jj acid ply in 8.25..
First session in at 30 mins I chiped the nose.. Kinda regret it but I managed to glue the piece back and it's as good as a new one.
The shape is really ni though on the shorter side
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteplease don't tell me OP actually believed acid ply made you pop higherExpand Quotei have seen said complaints about the acid ply decks but I have been running this JJ Jesus graphic one for 4 weeks and have no complaints. I also have the GC acid ply 8.25 in the unskated stack, looks perfectly fine.Expand QuoteCan we confirm quasi acid pop problem? Was looking forward too that deck, but I've been hearing problems sporadicly[close][close][close]
I have the jj acid ply in 8.25..
First session in at 30 mins I chiped the nose.. Kinda regret it but I managed to glue the piece back and it's as good as a new one.
The shape is really ni though on the shorter side[close]
weird. my nose chipped first session on my gc acid ply. i was trying to wallie that thing brad cromer wallied in that gonz evil whatever video and the nose just chipped second try
Thoughts? Generator?
(https://i.ibb.co/QXn7tC6/4-ECEF258-5585-43-C8-835-B-5-EC6-E92-A63-F1.jpg)
Thoughts? Generator?
(https://i.ibb.co/QXn7tC6/4-ECEF258-5585-43-C8-835-B-5-EC6-E92-A63-F1.jpg)
yes thanks. It is clutchExpand QuoteThoughts? Generator?
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Looks like it's a Clutch deck, V10 shape
]This that civil board? I like that graphic, more than I should.yes
Does anyone know what woodshoop Orchard skate shop uses for shop decks?
Does anyone know if Magenta changed woodshops out of BBS/GEN? I’ve skated at least 12-15 Magenta boards over the last few years and they’ve all had the size sticker on top with brown top ply. The brown top ply was always part of their identity. All that said, I haven’t skated a Magenta this past year and I just bought the Günes board. It has an orange top ply with no sticker and no printing on top ply. Can’t tell if it’s the same wood or not.
Has anyone ordered decks directly from Business & Co.? I’m wondering if they send you grip with each deck purchase.I have and nah, I used a sheet of grip I had. May have changed since it’s been a few months since I have
I'm skating a Zero board (I fought the law graphic), and it's definitely NOT BBS. Also not DSM. Anyone know what shop they're using right now?
Does anyone know if Magenta changed woodshops out of BBS/GEN? I’ve skated at least 12-15 Magenta boards over the last few years and they’ve all had the size sticker on top with brown top ply. The brown top ply was always part of their identity. All that said, I haven’t skated a Magenta this past year and I just bought the Günes board. It has an orange top ply with no sticker and no printing on top ply. Can’t tell if it’s the same wood or not.
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know if Magenta changed woodshops out of BBS/GEN? I’ve skated at least 12-15 Magenta boards over the last few years and they’ve all had the size sticker on top with brown top ply. The brown top ply was always part of their identity. All that said, I haven’t skated a Magenta this past year and I just bought the Günes board. It has an orange top ply with no sticker and no printing on top ply. Can’t tell if it’s the same wood or not.[close]
a batch of SU20 boards will be there soon
i ll tell you what's up
Does somebody know where pendleton new brand / darkroom decks are from ?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone know if Magenta changed woodshops out of BBS/GEN? I’ve skated at least 12-15 Magenta boards over the last few years and they’ve all had the size sticker on top with brown top ply. The brown top ply was always part of their identity. All that said, I haven’t skated a Magenta this past year and I just bought the Günes board. It has an orange top ply with no sticker and no printing on top ply. Can’t tell if it’s the same wood or not.[close]
a batch of SU20 boards will be there soon
i ll tell you what's up
Does somebody know where pendleton new brand / darkroom decks are from ?[close]
Sounds just like the hopps I'm on. No identifying items/stickers but it's built like a tank and feels like a bbs/generator.
Expand QuoteI'm skating a Zero board (I fought the law graphic), and it's definitely NOT BBS. Also not DSM. Anyone know what shop they're using right now?[close]
Had a 3 blood skull back in Feb, was most definitely DSM wood. They've been back on them for quite a while it seems. Dead giveaway is there's no top sticker anymore, just the one they slap on themselves on the plastic claiming "made in mexico" thing is if they were just honest about the DSM thing I would have probably stuck with the deck, but since the Chief's a sneak about it had to sell it off.
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know if Magenta changed woodshops out of BBS/GEN? I’ve skated at least 12-15 Magenta boards over the last few years and they’ve all had the size sticker on top with brown top ply. The brown top ply was always part of their identity. All that said, I haven’t skated a Magenta this past year and I just bought the Günes board. It has an orange top ply with no sticker and no printing on top ply. Can’t tell if it’s the same wood or not.[close]
a batch of SU20 boards will be there soon
i ll tell you what's up
Does somebody know where pendleton new brand / darkroom decks are from ?
I just got a CCS custom board
It's got a prime heritage stamp lasered on it.
Definitely different wood from the one I had last year. Looks higher quality and a new shape.
(https://i.imgur.com/SuNxjQCl.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/LPDPEZTl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5kjsXTjl.jpg)
It’s a custom graphic deck
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know if Magenta changed woodshops out of BBS/GEN? I’ve skated at least 12-15 Magenta boards over the last few years and they’ve all had the size sticker on top with brown top ply. The brown top ply was always part of their identity. All that said, I haven’t skated a Magenta this past year and I just bought the Günes board. It has an orange top ply with no sticker and no printing on top ply. Can’t tell if it’s the same wood or not.[close]
a batch of SU20 boards will be there soon
i ll tell you what's up
Does somebody know where pendleton new brand / darkroom decks are from ?
Can't wait for
Liver & Onions Skateboards
Ratatouille Skateboards
Powdered Milk Skateboards
Decaffeinated Instant Coffee Skateboards
What woodshop is better for skateparks?Maybe the guy who's keeping his Nyjah's for longboarding knows.
go somewhere else
Expand Quotego somewhere else[close]
I don't get it buy directly from the brand instead of the woodshop?
I could see that.....DSM so same as Palace Almost Santa Cruz Enjoi.
On malto's nine cob they talked about the girl boards and it sounds like it's a different manufacturer versus a better version of the same....still sounds like China though....
Thinking of getting a blank off Skatewarehouse make the minimum amount for free shipping. Anyone know where their blank Shuvit deck are pressed? Customer service says they are 8 x 32 x 14 which is right up my alley.
DSM so same as Palace Almost Santa Cruz Enjoi.Expand QuoteI could see that.....
On malto's nine cob they talked about the girl boards and it sounds like it's a different manufacturer versus a better version of the same....still sounds like China though....[close]
No way, I’m on a Girl board atm and it is not DSM I’m 100% sure.Expand QuoteDSM so same as Palace Almost Santa Cruz Enjoi.Expand QuoteI could see that.....
On malto's nine cob they talked about the girl boards and it sounds like it's a different manufacturer versus a better version of the same....still sounds like China though....[close][close]
I don't think so.....
Is Hopps still Chapman?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteplease don't tell me OP actually believed acid ply made you pop higherExpand Quotei have seen said complaints about the acid ply decks but I have been running this JJ Jesus graphic one for 4 weeks and have no complaints. I also have the GC acid ply 8.25 in the unskated stack, looks perfectly fine.Expand QuoteCan we confirm quasi acid pop problem? Was looking forward too that deck, but I've been hearing problems sporadicly[close][close][close]
I have the jj acid ply in 8.25..
First session in at 30 mins I chiped the nose.. Kinda regret it but I managed to glue the piece back and it's as good as a new one.
The shape is really ni though on the shorter side[close]
weird. my nose chipped first session on my gc acid ply. i was trying to wallie that thing brad cromer wallied in that gonz evil whatever video and the nose just chipped second try[close]
Have a JWilson acid ply but set up a hopps I had laying around because I wasn't ready to skate PS wood. Sort of glad after hearing of all these chips etc. This hopps is a tank.
I’m pretty sure it’s DSM now. Roger said it on the nine club and someone on here who works at a distribution said they’re getting Girl boards that are DSM.
I’ll look for it. He says it’s the same wood as Santa Cruz which is DSM now.Expand QuoteI’m pretty sure it’s DSM now. Roger said it on the nine club and someone on here who works at a distribution said they’re getting Girl boards that are DSM.[close]
The boards just seem really different....which episode? I think Twist is right....
Are the toy machine reissues PS or BBS?? Looking at the Templeton reissue board. Specs look like it’d be right up my alley
Expand QuoteAre the toy machine reissues PS or BBS?? Looking at the Templeton reissue board. Specs look like it’d be right up my alley[close]
i had the last supper deck and like right after i set it up it delaminated and eventually cracked within a week. the jeremy leabres deck however has lasted me since i got it on xmas of last year. im about to set up my new board since this one really stood the test of time.
after the last supper deck fiasco i swore off toy machine but the current deck i have is really good, it took forever to chip and is still skatable, says its made in mexico. i would have to assume the pro model decks are better.
Black warning sticker in between top bolts = BBS?
Looking at a Hockey board
I think the pricepoint Toy Machines are pressed in China, the pro boards are still pressed in Mexico by PS Stix.
What's the word on clutch wood? Stiffness, steepness, concave and durability versus BBS?pretty shitty
Ok, am I tripping or does FA/Hockey only make one shape? I have seen A LOT of their boards - I even worked for the distribution - but I have never seen anything that wasn't the super square, huge nose small tail shape. Different widths, and some have different concaves, but literally every one I've seen in person is the exact same shape. Seems weird. They'd sell a lot more of they just made a few boards on a more standard popsicle instead of just one option.
I disagree. My pal has a brujaria and I usually don’t enjoy a board that isn’t bbs wood and I love it. Mellow, square, 2+ fingers of flat before the kicks come up. Wood feels good. Can’t say anything about durability though.pretty shittyExpand QuoteWhat's the word on clutch wood? Stiffness, steepness, concave and durability versus BBS?[close]
Had a roger that was super flat and the tail had a solid 3 fingers of flat. Super pointy so i ended up giving it to a coworkers son.I disagree. My pal has a brujaria and I usually don’t enjoy a board that isn’t bbs wood and I love it. Mellow, square, 2+ fingers of flat before the kicks come up. Wood feels good. Can’t say anything about durability though.Expand Quotepretty shittyExpand QuoteWhat's the word on clutch wood? Stiffness, steepness, concave and durability versus BBS?[close][close]
Had a roger that was super flat and the tail had a solid 3 fingers of flat. Super pointy so i ended up giving it to a coworkers son.Expand QuoteI disagree. My pal has a brujaria and I usually don’t enjoy a board that isn’t bbs wood and I love it. Mellow, square, 2+ fingers of flat before the kicks come up. Wood feels good. Can’t say anything about durability though.Expand Quotepretty shittyExpand QuoteWhat's the word on clutch wood? Stiffness, steepness, concave and durability versus BBS?[close][close][close]
What's the word on clutch wood? Stiffness, steepness, concave and durability versus BBS?
Imagine your graphics being so bad that you have to sell blanks
Imagine your graphics being so bad that you have to sell blanks
Easier also to hide from public that it is a Thank You board, just one sticker and you are good to goExpand QuoteImagine your graphics being so bad that you have to sell blanks[close]
I imagine they're doing this because it's more cost effective due to COVID. I'd probably grab one tbh.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone know if Magenta changed woodshops out of BBS/GEN? I’ve skated at least 12-15 Magenta boards over the last few years and they’ve all had the size sticker on top with brown top ply. The brown top ply was always part of their identity. All that said, I haven’t skated a Magenta this past year and I just bought the Günes board. It has an orange top ply with no sticker and no printing on top ply. Can’t tell if it’s the same wood or not.[close]
a batch of SU20 boards will be there soon
i ll tell you what's up
Does somebody know where pendleton new brand / darkroom decks are from ?[close]
Sounds just like the hopps I'm on. No identifying items/stickers but it's built like a tank and feels like a bbs/generator.
Expand QuoteIt’s a custom graphic deck[close]
I got a Prime blank off Socal a few weeks ago, mixed reviews online but it looks and feels very promising.
pretty shittyExpand QuoteWhat's the word on clutch wood? Stiffness, steepness, concave and durability versus BBS?[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIt’s a custom graphic deck[close]
I got a Prime blank off Socal a few weeks ago, mixed reviews online but it looks and feels very promising.[close]
How’s it goin? Very interested in these
Expand Quotepretty shittyExpand QuoteWhat's the word on clutch wood? Stiffness, steepness, concave and durability versus BBS?[close][close]
I wholeheartedly disagree with that. Clutch wood is excellent, fairly stiff with good pop that lasts a long time. Actually come to think of it I don't think I've ever stopped skating one because it sogged, I either get bored and move to something else or give them away. I think they might be slightly softer and thus razor tail a little faster than bbs, but overall they're very much comparable quality.
In terms of concave/kick steepness they have several different molds and a wide variety of shapes, so you can probably find just about anything you want. I'm a big fan of their O shape, it's got squarish kicks and a large nose similar to FA or older wknd shapes. Hotel Blue and Coda use that shape for a lot of stuff.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt’s a custom graphic deck[close]
I got a Prime blank off Socal a few weeks ago, mixed reviews online but it looks and feels very promising.[close]
How’s it goin? Very interested in these[close]
I got one from WHS a few months ago because they had it listed as 8.25" x 31.25" (it ended up being 32", the description was wrong) and was really not impressed. The shape was fine, your run of the mill generic popsicle with med kicks and concave, but the board was lifeless straight out of the box. It didn't feel soggy but just didn't have the kind of pop you'd expect from a new deck. It was $25 so I wasn't expecting it to be amazing, but it still disappointed me. Maybe I got a dud, but the only good thing I can say about it is the stain was a very nice shade of blue.
From my experience with hockey on PS STIX wood (i'm pretty sure Hockey and FA share the same shapes, would love a confirmation):
- every size doesn't have the same shape (i mean it's not just the same shape proportionnally wider and adjusted wheelbase)
- every 8.*" has the same shape
- depending on the width, nose and tail sizes, steepness can vary. some really have a way more shovel nose than others for instance
All around Noses are steeper and shorter than classic popsicles
All around Tails are less steep than classic popsicles
Concave can vary but it's kinda flat
Next batch of Hockey should be BBS considering what i read here, i'll give more info on that soon.
Expand QuoteImagine your graphics being so bad that you have to sell blanks[close]
I imagine they're doing this because it's more cost effective due to COVID. I'd probably grab one tbh.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone know if Magenta changed woodshops out of BBS/GEN? I’ve skated at least 12-15 Magenta boards over the last few years and they’ve all had the size sticker on top with brown top ply. The brown top ply was always part of their identity. All that said, I haven’t skated a Magenta this past year and I just bought the Günes board. It has an orange top ply with no sticker and no printing on top ply. Can’t tell if it’s the same wood or not.[close]
a batch of SU20 boards will be there soon
i ll tell you what's up
Does somebody know where pendleton new brand / darkroom decks are from ?[close]
Sounds just like the hopps I'm on. No identifying items/stickers but it's built like a tank and feels like a bbs/generator.[close]
Ditto on my hopps, love it
Easier also to hide from public that it is a Thank You board, just one sticker and you are good to goExpand QuoteExpand QuoteImagine your graphics being so bad that you have to sell blanks[close]
I imagine they're doing this because it's more cost effective due to COVID. I'd probably grab one tbh.[close]
Anyone have exp / thoughts on Control wood (studio)?
Anyone have exp / thoughts on Control wood (studio)?control boards arent great tbh. lots of shops in canada uses them for blanks because they are cheap.
Anyone have exp / thoughts on Control wood (studio)?Skated a lot of Control blanks few years ago, really liked them but always thought that they were not as strong as something like BBS. Still would go back if the money was tight.
Anyone have exp / thoughts on Control wood (studio)?
Anyone have exp / thoughts on Control wood (studio)?
That’s really interesting, the ones I had, had a great shape. And I’d buy them for that alone. Mine felt stiff, and a little dull. I think/know I had the wrong sized trucks set up. I like flat boards, aesthetically, and I think I skate ok on them, but hard to say, sometimes concave helps cheat stuff around. Flat doesn’t keep its pop as well.
Ok this is semi-bothering me. I was just watching a Ben Degros video review of a clutch/ASF deck and he mentioned that it was made in Mexico. He also talked about how he was in contact with one of the dudes who makes the deck and it seemed like most of the information he was giving was based on that. I keep seeing shops and companies posting that their decks are "Made in America" when they're using Clutch/ASF wood. Do they have multiple woodshops or is it just that Clutch (the distributor) is in the US and ASF (the woodshop) is in Mexico?
Expand QuoteOk this is semi-bothering me. I was just watching a Ben Degros video review of a clutch/ASF deck and he mentioned that it was made in Mexico. He also talked about how he was in contact with one of the dudes who makes the deck and it seemed like most of the information he was giving was based on that. I keep seeing shops and companies posting that their decks are "Made in America" when they're using Clutch/ASF wood. Do they have multiple woodshops or is it just that Clutch (the distributor) is in the US and ASF (the woodshop) is in Mexico?[close]
Same in germany and Austria for some BBS wood decks, especially Stil Laden has labeled all BBS as made in USA.
Any Doomsayers riders out there ?
Specifically interested in the 8.28 size, pics on the web suggest full shapes (Not interested in shovel nose shape) with full round nose and tail ?
Length 32 x 14 WB, but no idea about nose and tail length, steepness of kicks or concave. Thinking of pairing this with thunder 148 hollows. Current deck is a Polar arigato, but I have a love hate relationship with the shortish tail and taper so looking to move back to something more traditional. I’m in Oz so pickings are slim and whilst I would happily skate another polar alternative I’m interested in alternatives
TIA
BBS board no?....similar lay up to Alltimers, Magenta, etc...
Expand QuoteOk this is semi-bothering me. I was just watching a Ben Degros video review of a clutch/ASF deck and he mentioned that it was made in Mexico. He also talked about how he was in contact with one of the dudes who makes the deck and it seemed like most of the information he was giving was based on that. I keep seeing shops and companies posting that their decks are "Made in America" when they're using Clutch/ASF wood. Do they have multiple woodshops or is it just that Clutch (the distributor) is in the US and ASF (the woodshop) is in Mexico?[close]
Same in germany and Austria for some BBS wood decks, especially Stil Laden has labeled all BBS as made in USA.
Does anyone know where Four Skate Co. in Australia get their boards pressed?
I thought they pressed their own? I had a fibre tech lite which I quite enjoyed although it razored fast, but maybe that’s cause my manuals suck ;DExpand QuoteDoes anyone know where Four Skate Co. in Australia get their boards pressed?[close]
On that same note which woodshop does Folklore use! Loved their Fibertech Lite deck I got last year
It's not their own. I asked them about it before and they said it's confidential, then gave the generic " the boards are made where some of the world's most popular brands have their skateboards made, we assure you they are extremely high quality blah blah"..I thought they pressed their own? I had a fibre tech lite which I quite enjoyed although it razored fast, but maybe that’s cause my manuals suck ;DExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone know where Four Skate Co. in Australia get their boards pressed?[close]
On that same note which woodshop does Folklore use! Loved their Fibertech Lite deck I got last year[close]
The only thing stopping me riding another is the lack of sizing/WB options as they are to generic. I really want something close to a 31.85 x 8.38 x 14 - 14.125 , but guessing be a small company that ain’t going to happen
Anyone know the woodshop or has ridden SoCal shop blanks? Curious the quality, they have some twin shapes that seem appealing.
Expand QuoteAnyone know the woodshop or has ridden SoCal shop blanks? Curious the quality, they have some twin shapes that seem appealing.[close]
They get them from a few different places, the ones that have a letter/number code that don't say "prime wood LA" are from clutch and you can reference the shape here
https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes
The ones that do say "Prime wood LA" are of course from Prime.
They also have some old school decks that are made by Watson, they're technically not blanks but rather the big shop boards that have a SoCal graphic on them.
Personally I would go with the Clutch decks if there's one in your size. In my experience Prime wood is pretty unremarkable and the prime blank I got from WHS felt pretty dead straight out of the box. Not necessarily soggy, it just didn't have much pop or an interesting shape or anything that made me want to continue skating it.
Sunland skate shop posted some blanks on their gram. I asked who makes them. They said “turbo”
?? Is this for real ?
Expand QuoteSunland skate shop posted some blanks on their gram. I asked who makes them. They said “turbo”
?? Is this for real ?[close]
Thanks for letting me know
I got that ad too.
Turbo are cheap Chinese blanks. I bought a 5 for 50 pack from eBay when I was a kid. They were trash. Went through the box is less than a month. This around 05.
https://www.skateamerica.com/products/chocolate-anderson-icon-stencil-skateboard-deck-purple-8-125in-x-31-6in?variant=10141906051
Anyone know if these crailtap (chocolate) boards are the better ones or the shitty ones from China? Been looking to try wider deck with a shorter WB.
Expand Quotehttps://www.skateamerica.com/products/chocolate-anderson-icon-stencil-skateboard-deck-purple-8-125in-x-31-6in?variant=10141906051
Anyone know if these crailtap (chocolate) boards are the better ones or the shitty ones from China? Been looking to try wider deck with a shorter WB.[close]
Everything on Skate America is old AF. like 5 year old stock. When was shurriken shannon still on Santa Cruz? That's how old the inventory is. It's definitely old wood
I don't know the specific woodshop but it's chinese for sure.
I had good feedbacks on the Fibertech ones
(https://i.postimg.cc/DytrMqV8/IMG-0316.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BXBP8Pn0)
Just got this traffic. Has the K8 imprint between the from trucks so it's a clutch. Asked the ToA insta about it and was told they're still generator but with covid they had to switch for a couple runs to still have boards. Said to expect a generator restock in the next 10 days.
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Just got this traffic. Has the K8 imprint between the from trucks so it's a clutch. Asked the ToA insta about it and was told they're still generator but with covid they had to switch for a couple runs to still have boards. Said to expect a generator restock in the next 10 days.[close]
They're not the only ones. I saw some Toy Machine decks on SoCal or SW that looked like they were on Clutch wood and I recently got a Lurkville deck that was as well.
I guess the fact that they have a bunch of pre-made size/shape combos means they keep more blanks in inventory and from their IG it looks they never stopped making decks. I've also heard that they have really fast turnaround times, probably because they don't have to press everything as the order comes in. While it's not my favorite, there's definitely worse wood to have to do runs on so I guess I'm cool with it.
What's the wheelbase on the K? I was a little disappointed that the P7 wb on my Lurkville was a little longer (around 14.4) than I usually like for medium/steep decks. I was able to somewhat mitigate it by using Theeves but it still feels a little off.
Out of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.
We just got over 100 decks in at the shop and every Toy and Foundation board we got is pressed in China. Ewww. Tum Yeto switches up wood too much - if you're loyal to those brands it must be so frustrating to have to keep getting used to drastically different wood every couple years. Cool to see the Creager Trix reissue in there except it's on a random shitty china shape.Do boards usually cost $35-$40 wholesale?
Meanwhile, local brand Jenny just got their order from BBS and the boards are much nicer than the usual generic shapes 80% of BBS clients get. Logo printed on top, laser etched dims, custom dye jobs so every board has the same lay up. Nice and steep. On top of all that, they wholesale for $50 while most other brands have crept up to around $60. We got something like 25 in and within 2 days had sold 3/4 of them.
Out of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.
Does anybody recognize this top stamp? I thought maybe clutch but I don’t see an “X” shape on their website and slap wasn’t letting me include an X in my search.
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Expand QuoteOut of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.[close]
If you've got a Zumiez deal its not hard to hit the minimum order for a BBS run. Other companies do the notch. I'm pretty sure my finesse board is woodchuck and they do a top notch
Expand QuoteDoes anybody recognize this top stamp? I thought maybe clutch but I don’t see an “X” shape on their website and slap wasn’t letting me include an X in my search.
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Probably still clutch. They have more shapes than what's listed on the website, they haven't updated it for a while. I might be wrong believe the X is one of the newer ones, maybe the symmetrical one?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anybody recognize this top stamp? I thought maybe clutch but I don’t see an “X” shape on their website and slap wasn’t letting me include an X in my search.
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Probably still clutch. They have more shapes than what's listed on the website, they haven't updated it for a while. I might be wrong believe the X is one of the newer ones, maybe the symmetrical one?[close]
Thanks for the input y’all. I took it to the DMs and it is confirmed to be Clutch. My measurements in case anyone figures out how to search an X stamped deck in the future:
8.75 x 33 popsicle / 14.25WB / 7.25N / 7.0T / about 2 fingers.
I'm on a traffic from clutch right now. Gotta say it's not great. Was awesome the first 3 days, about 5 hours but now feels soggy, a lot of give and overall dead. Idk if anyone else has the same experience. Hopefully ToA will have generator wood soon. Going back to krooked until then.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOut of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.[close]
If you've got a Zumiez deal its not hard to hit the minimum order for a BBS run. Other companies do the notch. I'm pretty sure my finesse board is woodchuck and they do a top notch[close]
PGI is another one that has the alignment divot that people often mistake for BBS (for example Blood Wizard is listed as BBS in this thread). It does feel pretty similar at first - they have similar stiffness - but PGI loses its pop a little faster. I don't know if that's because of the construction, the fact that every PGI deck I've seen/had is super mellow (probably amongst the flattest you'll find in most shops actually), or a combination of the two.
At any rate it's pretty good. I think it's probably my favorite non-special construction Chinese wood at the moment. I'm interested in trying one of the creature cold press decks but the graphics and dimensions they've released so far have been kinda meh.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOut of sheer curiosity, I picked up one of the Danny Duncan Virginity Rocks decks are Zumiez the other day. I flipped it over and it looks like it’s BBS wood. Had the white and black warning sticker (albeit in the shape of Danny Duncan) and a “notch” on the nose.[close]
If you've got a Zumiez deal its not hard to hit the minimum order for a BBS run. Other companies do the notch. I'm pretty sure my finesse board is woodchuck and they do a top notch[close]
PGI is another one that has the alignment divot that people often mistake for BBS (for example Blood Wizard is listed as BBS in this thread). It does feel pretty similar at first - they have similar stiffness - but PGI loses its pop a little faster. I don't know if that's because of the construction, the fact that every PGI deck I've seen/had is super mellow (probably amongst the flattest you'll find in most shops actually), or a combination of the two.
At any rate it's pretty good. I think it's probably my favorite non-special construction Chinese wood at the moment. I'm interested in trying one of the creature cold press decks but the graphics and dimensions they've released so far have been kinda meh.[close]
Yeah, my bad. I just assumed because of the caution sticker! Is there like a sure fire way to tell that a deck is definitively from x Woodshop? (Other than like Clutch or Ps Stix)
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I'm on a traffic from clutch right now. Gotta say it's not great. Was awesome the first 3 days, about 5 hours but now feels soggy, a lot of give and overall dead. Idk if anyone else has the same experience. Hopefully ToA will have generator wood soon. Going back to krooked until then.[close]
I've some weird experiences with clutch where sometimes it feels pretty dead and others it feels great. I hated the first one I had and was convinced clutch was just bad wood, then I set it up with theeves for a rain board and it suddenly felt great. Maybe try switching trucks or just being nice and telling it that it looks pretty and see if it cooperates again?
My overall impression of them is that they're very good but not quite on the level of BBS/PS/SC. I think it's very shape dependent though. The normal popsicles I've tried (K/P/G/S shapes) have been hit and miss and pretty meh, but the square one (O shape) has been awesome. I'm on my 3rd right now. It seems like they're really pumping out wood (or just had a lot of backstock inventory) right now so it wouldn't surprise me if the QC took a hit.
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Just got this traffic. Has the K8 imprint between the front trucks so it's a clutch. Asked the ToA insta about it and was told they're still generator but with covid they had to switch for a couple runs to still have boards. Said to expect a generator restock in the next 10 days.
If you figure out, post pics of the processfor sure, my old man has a cnc and skatepaige sells good uncuts for $13 so I'll be figuring out soon. I can autocad some shapes and have the machine perfectly cut them out, or at least that's what I'm hoping for. Time will tell.
Why does Krooked number their boards with roman numerals?All the deluxe Sports does.
Anyway... I skated a Krooked numbered IV (4), so the most mellow concave and kicks.
Loved it! Also, its like it lasted longer. Usually my DLX boards seem to fall apart around the pockets rather easly,- like chipping.
Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but don't really wanna start a new one.
Wondering if any brand (preferably bbs) has a shape thats something like this:
8.25-8.38
14.25 wheelbase
32 length, could do a tad shorter
mellow nose and tail (in terms of steepness)
full, but not super square nose and tail.
The killing floor and Theories 8.25s are pretty close, but the nose and tail are a bit small for my feet, if they made those shapes as an 8.38 it would be great but their 8.38s are a bit longer.
8.25-8.38
14.25 wheelbase
32 length, could do a tad shorter
mellow nose and tail (in terms of steepness)
full, but not super square nose and tail.
Can anyone recommend mellow/flat decks? I know Toy/Foundation are normally pretty mellow. I heard Baker is? I’m skating a 8.38 blood wizard right now and it’s really mellow (not even sure what wood they use) Thanks for any help!b16. so mellow i nearly focused it on many occasions
Expand QuoteCan anyone tell me the woodshop Create Skateboards gets their boards from?
It says 7-ply maple, made in the USA
Asking for a friend[close]
As long as it's made in the USA it's a-okay. No China wood. Chinese wood doesn't look as good on my wall of collectibles. You know what I mean, right! Because I can tell you're also a collector who doesn't skate but loves skate memorabilia.
Can anyone tell me the woodshop Create Skateboards gets their boards from?
It says 7-ply maple, made in the USA
Asking for a friend
Expand QuoteCan anyone tell me the woodshop Create Skateboards gets their boards from?
It says 7-ply maple, made in the USA
Asking for a friend[close]
Not sure if they use multiple woodshops but the ones with the paint brush dick are PS stix. They're also crazy short... like 8.25 x 31.
We just got over 100 decks in at the shop and every Toy and Foundation board we got is pressed in China. Ewww. Tum Yeto switches up wood too much - if you're loyal to those brands it must be so frustrating to have to keep getting used to drastically different wood every couple years
Why does Krooked number their boards with roman numerals?
Anyway... I skated a Krooked numbered IV (4), so the most mellow concave and kicks.
Clutch is hecho en Mexico, so if its got that "made in USA" sticker its either not a Clutch or the brand is lying (which I wouldn't put past anyone these days)
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I'm over in the UK and just started getting these Chinese decks through last month. They're terrible. The shapes and sizes are all over the shop. I've bought the same 7.875" deck three times now and it's had a different shape and size, the most recent being 8". Not just that, they split and snap really easily as well. I've been a loyal pawn for years but this is too much
As there any non-Yeto brands that have a similar shape to those decks? Mellow/flattish concave and go well with Thunders?
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I'm over in the UK and just started getting these Chinese decks through last month. They're terrible. The shapes and sizes are all over the shop. I've bought the same 7.875" deck three times now and it's had a different shape and size, the most recent being 8". Not just that, they split and snap really easily as well. I've been a loyal pawn for years but this is too much
As there any non-Yeto brands that have a similar shape to those decks? Mellow/flattish concave and go well with Thunders?[close]
Of course I had to read this right after I bought a Foundation deck online. Goddamnit. I even checked this thread before I bought it and read that Foundation pro decks are PS, so I thought it was all good. Hopefully it's PS.
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I'm over in the UK and just started getting these Chinese decks through last month. They're terrible. The shapes and sizes are all over the shop. I've bought the same 7.875" deck three times now and it's had a different shape and size, the most recent being 8". Not just that, they split and snap really easily as well. I've been a loyal pawn for years but this is too much
As there any non-Yeto brands that have a similar shape to those decks? Mellow/flattish concave and go well with Thunders?[close]
Of course I had to read this right after I bought a Foundation deck online. Goddamnit. I even checked this thread before I bought it and read that Foundation pro decks are PS, so I thought it was all good. Hopefully it's PS.[close]
I'm sorry if I had any part in that bad decision; I thought their pro boards were still pressed in the US. Fingers crossed for you too. Adam.
Do boards usually cost $35-$40 wholesale?Expand QuoteWe just got over 100 decks in at the shop and every Toy and Foundation board we got is pressed in China. Ewww. Tum Yeto switches up wood too much - if you're loyal to those brands it must be so frustrating to have to keep getting used to drastically different wood every couple years. Cool to see the Creager Trix reissue in there except it's on a random shitty china shape.
Meanwhile, local brand Jenny just got their order from BBS and the boards are much nicer than the usual generic shapes 80% of BBS clients get. Logo printed on top, laser etched dims, custom dye jobs so every board has the same lay up. Nice and steep. On top of all that, they wholesale for $50 while most other brands have crept up to around $60. We got something like 25 in and within 2 days had sold 3/4 of them.[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWe just got over 100 decks in at the shop and every Toy and Foundation board we got is pressed in China. Ewww. Tum Yeto switches up wood too much - if you're loyal to those brands it must be so frustrating to have to keep getting used to drastically different wood every couple years[close]
I'm over in the UK and just started getting these Chinese decks through last month. They're terrible. The shapes and sizes are all over the shop. I've bought the same 7.875" deck three times now and it's had a different shape and size, the most recent being 8". Not just that, they split and snap really easily as well. I've been a loyal pawn for years but this is too much
As there any non-Yeto brands that have a similar shape to those decks? Mellow/flattish concave and go well with Thunders?[close]
Of course I had to read this right after I bought a Foundation deck online. Goddamnit. I even checked this thread before I bought it and read that Foundation pro decks are PS, so I thought it was all good. Hopefully it's PS.[close]
I'm sorry if I had any part in that bad decision; I thought their pro boards were still pressed in the US. Fingers crossed for you too. Adam.[close]
How dare you, sir. And further to that, how could you. A dagger through my heart, and not the fun Dave Duncan-esque dagger either.
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I'm over in the UK and just started getting these Chinese decks through last month. They're terrible. The shapes and sizes are all over the shop. I've bought the same 7.875" deck three times now and it's had a different shape and size, the most recent being 8". Not just that, they split and snap really easily as well. I've been a loyal pawn for years but this is too much
As there any non-Yeto brands that have a similar shape to those decks? Mellow/flattish concave and go well with Thunders?[close]
Of course I had to read this right after I bought a Foundation deck online. Goddamnit. I even checked this thread before I bought it and read that Foundation pro decks are PS, so I thought it was all good. Hopefully it's PS.[close]
I'm sorry if I had any part in that bad decision; I thought their pro boards were still pressed in the US. Fingers crossed for you too. Adam.[close]
How dare you, sir. And further to that, how could you. A dagger through my heart, and not the fun Dave Duncan-esque dagger either.[close]
I'll send you some lightly flatspotted F4 Conicals in 50mm to atone for my sins. But for real, I'm sorry if contributed to this bad decision. I've seen lots of Toy Machine and Foundation boards on sale on China platforms but they were all team models / price point decks. Didn't realize they did their pro models in China too which is really shitty.
Apologies for not digging through this thread but regarding FA/ Hockey, they are BBS now correct?All BBS since last year i think(?)
I'm too old for FA/ Hockey but not sure I can resist the AA Pointbreak board.
Oh no, I'm not blaming you! It's all good, I'm just being an ass.
Oddly enough they cancelled my order and refunded my money today. Maybe they read this thread and took pity on me.
Apologies for not digging through this thread but regarding FA/ Hockey, they are BBS now correct?
I'm too old for FA/ Hockey but not sure I can resist the AA Pointbreak board.
Does anyone know what wood Blood Wizard uses?
Of course I had to read this right after I bought a Foundation deck online. Goddamnit. I even checked this thread before I bought it and read that Foundation pro decks are PS, so I thought it was all good. Hopefully it's PS.
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Of course I had to read this right after I bought a Foundation deck online. Goddamnit. I even checked this thread before I bought it and read that Foundation pro decks are PS, so I thought it was all good. Hopefully it's PS.[close]
Could always phone the shops and ask if any of the pro decks have the proper stickers on them. Haven't got around to it yet but I'm not hopeful. Might try some Girl decks next, still Chinese wood but at least consistent shapes and quality
does anyone know if deluxe make that Ishod twin tail 8.3 for any other pro models, or just standard team models?There atleast used to be few Bobby Worrest Krooked twin tails, dont know if they still make them.
I've recently got one and love it, but i also notice that when those decks come into stock, they're gone really quickly, so chances that i find it when I'm done with my current deck is gonna be nigh impossible.
There atleast used to be few Bobby Worrest Krooked twin tails, dont know if they still make them.Expand Quotedoes anyone know if deluxe make that Ishod twin tail 8.3 for any other pro models, or just standard team models?
I've recently got one and love it, but i also notice that when those decks come into stock, they're gone really quickly, so chances that i find it when I'm done with my current deck is gonna be nigh impossible.[close]
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Oh no, I'm not blaming you! It's all good, I'm just being an ass.
Oddly enough they cancelled my order and refunded my money today. Maybe they read this thread and took pity on me.[close]
The NA market pro decks are historically almost always PS but the pandemic has fucked up production pretty bad so I guess Tumyeto has been running stuff through other woodshops. Still a lot of PS here but they've been doing a lot of stuff through Watson and I'm pretty sure I saw a couple with Clutch stamps on one of the warehouse sites, so I'm guessing they just started putting stuff out for non US markets from the china mfg they've used for price points and euro boards. I know you live in a communist country so you should be happy you're getting commie wood Adam.
. But AWS stuff is kinda hard to get in Germany.
Hey pals, does anyone know the length of AWS 8.175 decks? The website says 32.25, but I think that is a bit long since my 8.125 has a 31.75 length.
By the way, that 8.125 Visitor is the best deck a had in a really long time. But AWS stuff is kinda hard to get in Germany.
Expand QuoteHey pals, does anyone know the length of AWS 8.175 decks? The website says 32.25, but I think that is a bit long since my 8.125 has a 31.75 length.
By the way, that 8.125 Visitor is the best deck a had in a really long time. But AWS stuff is kinda hard to get in Germany.[close]
Some companies measure with the concave, so like the tape is pushed down flat against the board. This will make it a half inch or so longer than the tip to tip measurement, so 32.25 would be around 31.75 tip to tip.
I don't know if that's AWS measures their boards though, so I would email them or ask a shop to measure one for you.
Anyone know anything about progress dist and what wood they use? Looks like they do print production. They print Visit, finesse, willys workshop, roller horror, & atm.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAwajvxFBGc/?igshid=6c7ycstshg78
Are we sure Primitive is BBS? I'm skeptical as hell.Me too, boards i've tried were so shitty.
Are we sure Primitive is BBS? I'm skeptical as hell.
Are we sure Primitive is BBS? I'm skeptical as hell.
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I got a Primitive deck with a made in China sticker.
Are we sure Primitive is BBS? I'm skeptical as hell.
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I got a Primitive deck with a made in China sticker.[close]
I think they've started to make pricepoint boards, the non-pro models with the logo in Script should be their PP models.
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I got a Primitive deck with a made in China sticker.[close]
I think they've started to make pricepoint boards, the non-pro models with the logo in Script should be their PP models.[close]
It was actually a pro model. It had the typical BBS sticker but said made in China.
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I got a Primitive deck with a made in China sticker.[close]
I think they've started to make pricepoint boards, the non-pro models with the logo in Script should be their PP models.[close]
It was actually a pro model. It had the typical BBS sticker but said made in China.
I just set up a new Alien Workshop 8.125 and it's stamped with Roman numerals like DLX decks.
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Never had a bad Primitive, all of them were made in Mexico.
Doesn’t making a video saying generator told us not to call our generator blanks generator, defeat the the point?
Anyone know brand what the Baker OG mellow shape compares to ? I’m looking at either an 8.1 or an 8.25.
Anybody know what wood shop Max Allure uses?The message above answers the question
something about that recent video is just a little strange. like @TwisT ..lets remove all the videos that mention that but here's one last video mentioning it. Not blaming Generator either. The way Ben goes about it is pretty strange though, and the content is pretty stale. sounding like a salesman now.Expand QuoteDoesn’t making a video saying generator told us not to call our generator blanks generator, defeat the the point?[close]
Yes, and they had to scrub their social media and the channel of mention of Generator blanks as well. I don't blame Generator though, woodshops are the secret sauce of the industry, though it only matters to a tiny portion of the skate community. But I can imagine a lot of brands don't want their customers knowing brand X boards are actually the same as brand Y boards.
Moment content creators try to start selling you shit it all goes badsomething about that recent video is just a little strange. like @TwisT ..lets remove all the videos that mention that but here's one last video mentioning it. Not blaming Generator either. The way Ben goes about it is pretty strange though, and the content is pretty stale. sounding like a salesman now.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoesn’t making a video saying generator told us not to call our generator blanks generator, defeat the the point?[close]
Yes, and they had to scrub their social media and the channel of mention of Generator blanks as well. I don't blame Generator though, woodshops are the secret sauce of the industry, though it only matters to a tiny portion of the skate community. But I can imagine a lot of brands don't want their customers knowing brand X boards are actually the same as brand Y boards.[close]
Moment content creators try to start selling you shit it all goes badExpand Quotesomething about that recent video is just a little strange. like @TwisT ..lets remove all the videos that mention that but here's one last video mentioning it. Not blaming Generator either. The way Ben goes about it is pretty strange though, and the content is pretty stale. sounding like a salesman now.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoesn’t making a video saying generator told us not to call our generator blanks generator, defeat the the point?[close]
Yes, and they had to scrub their social media and the channel of mention of Generator blanks as well. I don't blame Generator though, woodshops are the secret sauce of the industry, though it only matters to a tiny portion of the skate community. But I can imagine a lot of brands don't want their customers knowing brand X boards are actually the same as brand Y boards.[close][close]
Expand QuoteMoment content creators try to start selling you shit it all goes badExpand Quotesomething about that recent video is just a little strange. like @TwisT ..lets remove all the videos that mention that but here's one last video mentioning it. Not blaming Generator either. The way Ben goes about it is pretty strange though, and the content is pretty stale. sounding like a salesman now.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoesn’t making a video saying generator told us not to call our generator blanks generator, defeat the the point?[close]
Yes, and they had to scrub their social media and the channel of mention of Generator blanks as well. I don't blame Generator though, woodshops are the secret sauce of the industry, though it only matters to a tiny portion of the skate community. But I can imagine a lot of brands don't want their customers knowing brand X boards are actually the same as brand Y boards.[close][close][close]
Pretty much agree, but he mentioned SC wood in the last video and then neglected to share his thoughts on that woodshop (which was a bummer). As far as content, what is left? He finally reviewed the Tensor ATG mag lights, which people had been hounding him to do for a long while, Ha! In all seriousness I like his content and look forward to new videos.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMoment content creators try to start selling you shit it all goes badExpand Quotesomething about that recent video is just a little strange. like @TwisT ..lets remove all the videos that mention that but here's one last video mentioning it. Not blaming Generator either. The way Ben goes about it is pretty strange though, and the content is pretty stale. sounding like a salesman now.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoesn’t making a video saying generator told us not to call our generator blanks generator, defeat the the point?[close]
Yes, and they had to scrub their social media and the channel of mention of Generator blanks as well. I don't blame Generator though, woodshops are the secret sauce of the industry, though it only matters to a tiny portion of the skate community. But I can imagine a lot of brands don't want their customers knowing brand X boards are actually the same as brand Y boards.[close][close][close]
Pretty much agree, but he mentioned SC wood in the last video and then neglected to share his thoughts on that woodshop (which was a bummer). As far as content, what is left? He finally reviewed the Tensor ATG mag lights, which people had been hounding him to do for a long while, Ha! In all seriousness I like his content and look forward to new videos.[close]
Almost got two of the blanks today since I’ve been on a similar shape but the savings were negated by the shipping. While I would like to have a blank deck I just would rather not commit to that shape right now because knowing me I’ll like something else in a month.
Edit: still have 3 Magenta boards from BBS in 8.125; if Canada Skate Shop brought in samples from other woodshops like Clutch or Chapman I would have loved to try a few.
I've grabbed Canadian shop boards and they are good....ninetimes, menu, both BBS/generator. I think blue tile too....
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Edit: still have 3 Magenta boards from BBS in 8.125; if Canada Skate Shop brought in samples from other woodshops like Clutch or Chapman I would have loved to try a few.[close]
Same thing. Chapman doesn't press boards anymore, they use ASF/Clutch blanks. For what it's worth, the two decks I've had that came from Chapman (8.38 coda and 8.25 hotel blue) have felt better than the other clutch decks I've skated. It's almost certainly down to the fact that they were both the O shape which is pretty much exactly what I like (square-ish kicks, big nose, full shape, 14.25 wb, around 31.6 length) while the others were P or K shape though.Expand QuoteI've grabbed Canadian shop boards and they are good....ninetimes, menu, both BBS/generator. I think blue tile too....[close]
Wasn't bluetile quincy wood or am I thinking of blueprint? Too many blues.
local’s most recent Toy Machine decks are generator
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Do you remember which graphics and if the concave/shape is similar to the PS ones? If they're super mellow like the PS ones I'd be really interested in trying one.
I don't think I've ever actually seen a truly flat BBS deck before. Even like the baker OG that's labeled as "mellow" is what I'd consider more of a medium and has a tail that's steeper than a lot of decks from other woodshops that I really like (SC E mold, PGI 8.25 x 31.63 shape, lots of PS stuff etc).
Anyone know what CCS blanks/graphic decks/custom graphic decks use? I’ve searched and have not found an answer. The stack of blemish decks has peaked my interest.
Any truth behind South Central using prison labor?Heard people talk about it here so it must be true
Anyone know brand what the Baker OG mellow shape compares to ? I’m looking at either an 8.1 or an 8.25.
Any truth behind South Central using prison labor?The wood is good enough for me not to care (hot take but my politic board is insane)
The wood is good enough for me not to care (hot take but my politic board is insane)Expand QuoteAny truth behind South Central using prison labor?[close]
Anyone got $4700 sitting around to drop on this Global Skate Board Market Report 2020 (https://www.reportsmonitor.com/report/839052/Skate-Board-Market) ??? lol
Expand QuoteAnyone got $4700 sitting around to drop on this Global Skate Board Market Report 2020 (https://www.reportsmonitor.com/report/839052/Skate-Board-Market) ??? lol[close]
Link for the lazy? Maybe the 2019 report is available online, the market analyst in me would love to look at the data.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone got $4700 sitting around to drop on this Global Skate Board Market Report 2020 (https://www.reportsmonitor.com/report/839052/Skate-Board-Market) ??? lol[close]
Link for the lazy? Maybe the 2019 report is available online, the market analyst in me would love to look at the data.[close]
it’s a hyperlink buddy hahah
I dont know where too ask so I'll ask here, has anyone sawed of the nose abit just to get it twin nose/tail setup? I'm thinking of trying it considering board are sort of hard to get now.south central does sound like a federal prison when you really think about it
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone got $4700 sitting around to drop on this Global Skate Board Market Report 2020 (https://www.reportsmonitor.com/report/839052/Skate-Board-Market) ??? lol[close]
Link for the lazy? Maybe the 2019 report is available online, the market analyst in me would love to look at the data.[close]
it’s a hyperlink buddy hahah[close]
My bad, just got out of bed when I saw that link.
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/skateboard-market
The summary of this other report is pretty interest. I downloaded a sample of the report out of curiosity.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone got $4700 sitting around to drop on this Global Skate Board Market Report 2020 (https://www.reportsmonitor.com/report/839052/Skate-Board-Market) ??? lol[close]
Link for the lazy? Maybe the 2019 report is available online, the market analyst in me would love to look at the data.[close]
it’s a hyperlink buddy hahah[close]
My bad, just got out of bed when I saw that link.
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/skateboard-market
The summary of this other report is pretty interest. I downloaded a sample of the report out of curiosity.[close]
Went down the rabbit hole and requested for sample reports both 2 market research companies. I got the sample reports in PDF so hit me up if you're looking for some bedtime reading.
Also this research company is covers decks, trucks, wheels and bearings. Having a major analyst boner right now:
https://www.reportsmonitor.com/search?search=skateboard&category=NULL
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Edit: still have 3 Magenta boards from BBS in 8.125; if Canada Skate Shop brought in samples from other woodshops like Clutch or Chapman I would have loved to try a few.[close]
Same thing. Chapman doesn't press boards anymore, they use ASF/Clutch blanks. For what it's worth, the two decks I've had that came from Chapman (8.38 coda and 8.25 hotel blue) have felt better than the other clutch decks I've skated. It's almost certainly down to the fact that they were both the O shape which is pretty much exactly what I like (square-ish kicks, big nose, full shape, 14.25 wb, around 31.6 length) while the others were P or K shape though.Expand QuoteI've grabbed Canadian shop boards and they are good....ninetimes, menu, both BBS/generator. I think blue tile too....[close]
Wasn't bluetile quincy wood or am I thinking of blueprint? Too many blues.
Does anyone have any opinions on either Control or Woodchuck?
Expand QuoteDoes anyone have any opinions on either Control or Woodchuck?[close]
I placed an order with woodchuck
I’m pretty sure they wood for willys workshop and finesse, but I haven’t confirmed. I really like finesse boards
They do a lot of shops. They do the current blueprint logo stuff, Death, premium, selfish(which is still a thing in Asia) and some red dragon stuff. they do that brand burger that you’ve probably got Instagram ads for.
they also did the decks for the teen choice awards.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone have any opinions on either Control or Woodchuck?[close]
I placed an order with woodchuck
I’m pretty sure they wood for willys workshop and finesse, but I haven’t confirmed. I really like finesse boards
They do a lot of shops. They do the current blueprint logo stuff, Death, premium, selfish(which is still a thing in Asia) and some red dragon stuff. they do that brand burger that you’ve probably got Instagram ads for.
they also did the decks for the teen choice awards.[close]
Where have you been seeing Selfish in Asia? I only saw a few on clearance on TGM.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone have any opinions on either Control or Woodchuck?[close]
I placed an order with woodchuck
I’m pretty sure they wood for willys workshop and finesse, but I haven’t confirmed. I really like finesse boards
They do a lot of shops. They do the current blueprint logo stuff, Death, premium, selfish(which is still a thing in Asia) and some red dragon stuff. they do that brand burger that you’ve probably got Instagram ads for.
they also did the decks for the teen choice awards.[close]
Where have you been seeing Selfish in Asia? I only saw a few on clearance on TGM.[close]
https://imgur.com/a/QJNraxa
I see them on the wall in pictures from random shops not in the US whenever I’m going on an Instagram
Dig. I assume someone bought the rights to the brand and all it’s graphics and that’s how they also ended up on TGM
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone got $4700 sitting around to drop on this Global Skate Board Market Report 2020 (https://www.reportsmonitor.com/report/839052/Skate-Board-Market) ??? lol[close]
Link for the lazy? Maybe the 2019 report is available online, the market analyst in me would love to look at the data.[close]
it’s a hyperlink buddy hahah[close]
My bad, just got out of bed when I saw that link.
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/skateboard-market
The summary of this other report is pretty interest. I downloaded a sample of the report out of curiosity.[close]
Went down the rabbit hole and requested for sample reports both 2 market research companies. I got the sample reports in PDF so hit me up if you're looking for some bedtime reading.
Also this research company is covers decks, trucks, wheels and bearings. Having a major analyst boner right now:
https://www.reportsmonitor.com/search?search=skateboard&category=NULL
Where did you get your information from regarding Chapman not pressing boards anymore? My buddy is starting to go through them for boards, but this information has not been brought up. Everything on the site still has manufactured in the U.S by Chapman.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone have any opinions on either Control or Woodchuck?[close]
I placed an order with woodchuck
I’m pretty sure they wood for willys workshop and finesse, but I haven’t confirmed. I really like finesse boards
They do a lot of shops. They do the current blueprint logo stuff, Death, premium, selfish(which is still a thing in Asia) and some red dragon stuff. they do that brand burger that you’ve probably got Instagram ads for.
they also did the decks for the teen choice awards.[close]
Where have you been seeing Selfish in Asia? I only saw a few on clearance on TGM.[close]
https://imgur.com/a/QJNraxa
I see them on the wall in pictures from random shops not in the US whenever I’m going on an Instagram
Dig. I assume someone bought the rights to the brand and all it’s graphics and that’s how they also ended up on TGM[close]
Probably right on the first one with someone buying the rights to Selfish, the Chinese translate to "Freedom Center 4-Wheeled Car". The TGM ones are old Wenning and Jeremy Rogers models so ancient stock.
https://tgmskateboards.com/skateboards-longboard/skateboards/?_bc_fsnf=1&brand=371
The Wenning and J Cassanova boards don't look horrible
Does PS Stix still do Toy Machine pro boards?does it have a lazer-engraved "PSXXXXXXX" production number at the top front truck holes? If not, it's not PS Stix.
Just picked one up, 8.25 14.175 31.8ish. I'm hearing PS go soggy and razor quick. Surely nothing can razor tail as quickly as my Primitive deck did.
Has anyone here had issues with companies giving out information as to where they press their boards?
I just asked a local company and they said the information was "confidential business propriety". Then gave some marketing spiel like "our boards are made where some of the most renowned companies produce boards at the highest level" etc.
🙄
does it have a lazer-engraved "PSXXXXXXX" production number at the top front truck holes? If not, it's not PS Stix.Expand QuoteDoes PS Stix still do Toy Machine pro boards?
Just picked one up, 8.25 14.175 31.8ish. I'm hearing PS go soggy and razor quick. Surely nothing can razor tail as quickly as my Primitive deck did.[close]
Does PS Stix still do Toy Machine pro boards?Yo what deck is this, those dimensions seem ideal.
Just picked one up, 8.25 14.175 31.8ish. I'm hearing PS go soggy and razor quick. Surely nothing can razor tail as quickly as my Primitive deck did.
Yo what deck is this, those dimensions seem ideal.Expand QuoteDoes PS Stix still do Toy Machine pro boards?
Just picked one up, 8.25 14.175 31.8ish. I'm hearing PS go soggy and razor quick. Surely nothing can razor tail as quickly as my Primitive deck did.[close]
And same concave as old toy machine boards?
Expand QuoteAll the stuff from Otaku’s 2017 Thread.Expand QuoteI know there is already a woodshop thread, but this seems like it could be helpful. I'll try to keep it updated, so feel free to contribute or correct, plus I cant remember any from pennswood or SC... I know scum.co is in there somewhere?
edit: I'll put an asterisk* beside companies using 2 or more
Dailan Huahong(China):
Chocolate
Girl
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)
Foundation?
Alien Workshop* (Euro/price point boards?)
Plan B* (Euro/price point boards?)
Element* (Euro/price point boards?)[close][close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAll the stuff from Otaku’s 2017 Thread.Expand QuoteI know there is already a woodshop thread, but this seems like it could be helpful. I'll try to keep it updated, so feel free to contribute or correct, plus I cant remember any from pennswood or SC... I know scum.co is in there somewhere?
edit: I'll put an asterisk* beside companies using 2 or more
Dailan Huahong(China):
Chocolate
Girl
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)
Foundation?
Alien Workshop* (Euro/price point boards?)
Plan B* (Euro/price point boards?)
Element* (Euro/price point boards?)[close][close][close]
Been seeing a lot of Girl and Toy Machine logo boards from the same couple of sellers on Aliexpress. There are probably 100s of woodshops in China supplying to the local market. I think someone on this thread mentioned hat Maxallure was done by PGI, another China woodshop of better quality than the regular stuff coming out.
Logo usually means price point....so it's at your own risk.....
Girl 2017 is not the same as Girl 2020...it's still China...but better China....
I skated my Girl board 1,5months this summer while my homie went thru 3 ps stix boards in same time,all of them snapped behind back truck🙄Expand QuoteLogo usually means price point....so it's at your own risk.....
Girl 2017 is not the same as Girl 2020...it's still China...but better China....[close]
A friend who rides exclusively Crail wood has had bad luck all around, the 2020 Girl deck he just setup lasted 2 hours of flatground skating before snapping over the trucks.
has anyone (*cough*buttfart?*cough*) taken note of what bonding method for plys each presser uses? I feel like epoxy being a fairly hard resin would completely change the feel of the wood, as opposed to other glues that don’t harden as much? just a shower thought. I feel like I once heard PS say he hates epoxy? can’t remember
ive heard plan b is going to switch to hlc for north america too.Expand Quotehas anyone (*cough*buttfart?*cough*) taken note of what bonding method for plys each presser uses? I feel like epoxy being a fairly hard resin would completely change the feel of the wood, as opposed to other glues that don’t harden as much? just a shower thought. I feel like I once heard PS say he hates epoxy? can’t remember[close]
Sorry I've been doing non skate-nerd things more often lately and haven't checked the thread in a minute.
Resin is pretty much only a china thing as far as I'm aware, but it's more or less the standard there. I've heard it's really difficult to use in places that have actual environmental laws because the chemicals involved are kind of nasty, but that's just skate shop gossip and I have no real sources to back it up. Resin decks definitely feel different, they're stiffer and have a more hollow "thud" sound as opposed to the "crack" of a good cold press deck. They also claim to be lighter but feel heavier underfoot to me, although I've never actually weighed any of my decks (just every single truck I own component by component, I swear I'm not mentally ill guys) so I don't know if thats actually the case. I think that part of the "all chinese wood is bad" shit is more "chinese wood feels different than what I'm used to". That's not to say that there aren't a metric fuckton of dogshit chinese blanks out there, just that they're not all bad. Anyways, resin construction is standard enough that NHS has decided to make "cold pressed... ya know.. with actual glue...like everyone else has been doing for the last 4 decades" a marketing bullet point with some recent creature decks.
So, in summary - if your deck isn't chinese made then it's probably glue. If it is chinese, it's probably resin. There's advantages and disadvantages to both construction methods, but personally I rarely skate a deck long enough for the enhanced durability of a resin deck to actually come into play so I mostly stick with good old cold pressed maple from the land of the free and the home of the brave, Mexico.
Also I'd like to add that I recently got a Plan B deck from a UK shop and it's HLC, so I guess that's who they're using for their Euro decks. It's pretty good wood, quite stiff but not uncomfortably so and the shape is pretty good (although I definitely prefer the PS stix plan B shapes since unlike the graphics they're pretty fucking great). I've only ever skated one HLC deck prior to this, a Sour 8.5 that I gave up on fairly quickly because it was too big for me, so I'm curious to see how this one holds up over time.
Does anyone know where Dog Town has their decks made? The list on page 1 says PS Stix but there is no engraving. Any y’all fuck with Dog Town bloards? Any chance BBS makes um,?
The new ones at 9” have a 14.6” wheelbase and are considered street models. I’m looking for a 9” with 14.5” wheelbase and I couldn’t pull the trigger on a Polar cause it had a red stain on the top. This has a dark grey stain which is my personal favorite.
https://socalskateshop.com/Dogtown-Purple-Cross-Logo--Skateboard-Deck-Purple-Stain-9x327.html#!?cc_decks=109653&c=cc_grip-tape
Does anyone know where Dog Town has their decks made? The list on page 1 says PS Stix but there is no engraving. Any y’all fuck with Dog Town bloards? Any chance BBS makes um,?
The new ones at 9” have a 14.6” wheelbase and are considered street models. I’m looking for a 9” with 14.5” wheelbase and I couldn’t pull the trigger on a Polar cause it had a red stain on the top. This has a dark grey stain which is my personal favorite.
https://socalskateshop.com/Dogtown-Purple-Cross-Logo--Skateboard-Deck-Purple-Stain-9x327.html#!?cc_decks=109653&c=cc_grip-tape
Thanks @CrimsonGhost and @yourbreakfsat
I suppose I could have done the same but didn’t think of it. The general consensus seems to be that PS Stix is inferior to BBS in that it becomes soggy too soon. However it seems like many people love Quasi decks here so how different can the two woodshops be?
Anyone feel that PS Stix is equal in long term performance?
I'm on a recent Toy Machine logo deck (China wood), and it has the steepest concave and kicks I've ever skated. Not the best for me, but might work well for anyone looking for a leg burner.
Thanks @CrimsonGhost and @yourbreakfsat
I suppose I could have done the same but didn’t think of it. The general consensus seems to be that PS Stix is inferior to BBS in that it becomes soggy too soon. However it seems like many people love Quasi decks here so how different can the two woodshops be?
Anyone feel that PS Stix is equal in long term performance?
ive heard plan b is going to switch to hlc for north america too.
ive heard plan b is going to switch to hlc for north america too.Expand QuoteExpand Quotehas anyone (*cough*buttfart?*cough*) taken note of what bonding method for plys each presser uses? I feel like epoxy being a fairly hard resin would completely change the feel of the wood, as opposed to other glues that don’t harden as much? just a shower thought. I feel like I once heard PS say he hates epoxy? can’t remember[close]
Sorry I've been doing non skate-nerd things more often lately and haven't checked the thread in a minute.
Resin is pretty much only a china thing as far as I'm aware, but it's more or less the standard there. I've heard it's really difficult to use in places that have actual environmental laws because the chemicals involved are kind of nasty, but that's just skate shop gossip and I have no real sources to back it up. Resin decks definitely feel different, they're stiffer and have a more hollow "thud" sound as opposed to the "crack" of a good cold press deck. They also claim to be lighter but feel heavier underfoot to me, although I've never actually weighed any of my decks (just every single truck I own component by component, I swear I'm not mentally ill guys) so I don't know if thats actually the case. I think that part of the "all chinese wood is bad" shit is more "chinese wood feels different than what I'm used to". That's not to say that there aren't a metric fuckton of dogshit chinese blanks out there, just that they're not all bad. Anyways, resin construction is standard enough that NHS has decided to make "cold pressed... ya know.. with actual glue...like everyone else has been doing for the last 4 decades" a marketing bullet point with some recent creature decks.
So, in summary - if your deck isn't chinese made then it's probably glue. If it is chinese, it's probably resin. There's advantages and disadvantages to both construction methods, but personally I rarely skate a deck long enough for the enhanced durability of a resin deck to actually come into play so I mostly stick with good old cold pressed maple from the land of the free and the home of the brave, Mexico.
Also I'd like to add that I recently got a Plan B deck from a UK shop and it's HLC, so I guess that's who they're using for their Euro decks. It's pretty good wood, quite stiff but not uncomfortably so and the shape is pretty good (although I definitely prefer the PS stix plan B shapes since unlike the graphics they're pretty fucking great). I've only ever skated one HLC deck prior to this, a Sour 8.5 that I gave up on fairly quickly because it was too big for me, so I'm curious to see how this one holds up over time.[close]
has anyone (*cough*buttfart?*cough*) taken note of what bonding method for plys each presser uses? I feel like epoxy being a fairly hard resin would completely change the feel of the wood, as opposed to other glues that don’t harden as much? just a shower thought. I feel like I once heard PS say he hates epoxy? can’t rememberI've always kind of assumed they just use Titebond or similar woodglue.
Are Pizza skateboards still out of PS Stix? Also, has anyone ridden one / feedback?
Is there a difference in Tired skateboards decks for Europe or NA?
Because the ones we had in the shops did not have the PS Stix engraved numbers on them.
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Where did you get your information from regarding Chapman not pressing boards anymore? My buddy is starting to go through them for boards, but this information has not been brought up. Everything on the site still has manufactured in the U.S by Chapman.[close]
I couldn't tell you exactly where I first learned it, but it's more or less common knowledge (or maybe 'open secret' is more accurate) for people who are woodshop nerds. Chapman used to use a woodshop in Maine but it closed down a few years back and they started using ASF blanks. The boards even come with the asf/clutch shape code stamps. Doesn't mean they're bad, I think they're better than the old Chapman wood personally.
"Manufactured" is kinda subjective I suppose.. They are still taking the deck and printing the graphic and wrapping it, which is more or less what they've always done, all that's changed is the woodshop that ships the boards to them. If it still says that then I'm not sure if they're being purposely ambiguous about it or just never updated the website.
FYI this business model is pretty common these days... There's at least a half dozen or so places in the US that do the "import blanks/print/wrap/ship" thing. The only US woodshops still operating I'm aware of are South Central, Watson, Drifter, Pennswood, Prime, and some smaller places like legend and customskateboards.com. Quincy shut down last year and were supposedly moving to a new location and coming back early this year (according to an email conversation I had with the owner) but that still hasn't happened and I'm not sure if it ever will.
Dwindle?
(https://i.imgur.com/CalGkBFl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dy4ICALl.jpg)
Any of you pals knows about Zero boards? I lost them at dwindle last time ;Dfor what it's worth i don't think dwindle/dsm is as bad as it's cracked up to be. set up a palace deck recently and hated how stiff it was the first day but now it feels like any other deck. i dunno maybe i'm not that picky, plus all the gear madness and obsession on here has driven me to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and i'll force myself to get used to anything.
for what it's worth i don't think dwindle/dsm is as bad as it's cracked up to be. set up a palace deck recently and hated how stiff it was the first day but now it feels like any other deck. i dunno maybe i'm not that picky, plus all the gear madness and obsession on here has driven me to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and i'll force myself to get used to anything.Expand QuoteAny of you pals knows about Zero boards? I lost them at dwindle last time ;D[close]
Does anyone have any opinions on either Control or Woodchuck?
Expand QuoteDoes anyone have any opinions on either Control or Woodchuck?[close]
I skate Control decks all the time and love em for what its worth.
Always found Woodchuck boards to be heavy and softer, but this was years ago when they were produced in Montreal.
Are Madness boards any good?
I uhhhh ordered a board while drunk last night and then forgot until I received the shipping notification this morning. I've been riding BBS or PS exclusively for the past four years so don't know what to expect. I just bought it because it's 9" with 14.25" wb and front wheel wells.
How can we tell if a Toy Machine is PS or Generator?
Are Madness boards any good?
I uhhhh ordered a board while drunk last night and then forgot until I received the shipping notification this morning. I've been riding BBS or PS exclusively for the past four years so don't know what to expect. I just bought it because it's 9" with 14.25" wb and front wheel wells.
Foundation is back at Watson but toy machine isn’t which is so weird. Watson Toy Machine boards were awesome
China Toy Machine is junk, changed my mind lol
Lasted 3 days, pressure cracked instantly and the nose was way noticeably steeper than the tale. Maybe from PS Stix they could be ok.
Rode a Folklore, Aussie brand. Went soft after a week, they said it should hold pop longer so maybe a bad board. But again, they won't let anyone know their woodshop :(
Are primitive price point decks BBS as well?
Expand QuoteAre primitive price point decks BBS as well?[close]
Dont think so team boards are from China
Expand QuoteThey could just be using different woodshops due to the drought. Anything goes right nowExpand QuoteAre primitive price point decks BBS as well?[close]
Dont think so team boards are from China[close]
Is this newest run of Primitive BBS? They look a lot like clutch O Shape in their most recent insta posts.
Foundation is back at Watson but toy machine isn’t which is so weird. Watson Toy Machine boards were awesome
Expand QuoteFoundation is back at Watson but toy machine isn’t which is so weird. Watson Toy Machine boards were awesome[close]
I just got back into skating after 7 years and bought a Toy Machine recently, thinking it was still from Watson. It felt different, so I went on this thread later and saw it could be from BBS, which I know I love cuz I grew up skating Expedition One and DGK. Asked a question and found out it has to be from PS Stix, cuz it’s not from China. I’ve been comparing with a DGK and Baker recently too.
I learned today that anything made from Watson, Generator, or PS Stix is a high quality board, each just have slightly different feels. I absolutely love the PS Stix Toy Machine, and I used to think I hated anything other than Watson or Generator.
Foundation is Watson though, Watson’s Instagram account has their most recent boards on there. Could it be that Canadian and US boards are different?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFoundation is back at Watson but toy machine isn’t which is so weird. Watson Toy Machine boards were awesome[close]
I just got back into skating after 7 years and bought a Toy Machine recently, thinking it was still from Watson. It felt different, so I went on this thread later and saw it could be from BBS, which I know I love cuz I grew up skating Expedition One and DGK. Asked a question and found out it has to be from PS Stix, cuz it’s not from China. I’ve been comparing with a DGK and Baker recently too.
I learned today that anything made from Watson, Generator, or PS Stix is a high quality board, each just have slightly different feels. I absolutely love the PS Stix Toy Machine, and I used to think I hated anything other than Watson or Generator.[close]
Toy Machine hasn’t used Watson in probably over a decade - I worked for the distro when they stopped getting anything done at Watson and it was a loooooong time ago. They were BBS for many years until they switched to a mix of PS and China.
Loving my Santa Cruz P2 8.25, are the Almost Impact Support (2 carbon discs instead of the 1 strip) comparable in performance? Also general reviews of DSM pro boards would be appreciated.
On the Folklore decks, regular board was the sog. I'm on the FibreTech now to see how that holds up.
I have a Globe G3 and did have an Almost in my hands. Both look to be discs but not 100%
My Globe G3 has outlasted 4 other boards. The impact jazz they have seen to do the job and it hasn't razor tailed as quickly as my other decks.
Reporting back.Expand QuoteAre Madness boards any good?
I uhhhh ordered a board while drunk last night and then forgot until I received the shipping notification this morning. I've been riding BBS or PS exclusively for the past four years so don't know what to expect. I just bought it because it's 9" with 14.25" wb and front wheel wells.[close]
They have steep concave and steep kicks.
I had one a year ago and rode it with Indys. While I think it was a good board, something felt super off about it and I eventually got another deck the next chance I could. I think it was just because of how steep the concave and kicks were, which I don't really prefer.
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On the Folklore decks, regular board was the sog. I'm on the FibreTech now to see how that holds up.
I have a Globe G3 and did have an Almost in my hands. Both look to be discs but not 100%
My Globe G3 has outlasted 4 other boards. The impact jazz they have seen to do the job and it hasn't razor tailed as quickly as my other decks.[close]
Ever tried the Elan Redline decks?
They are a similar concave to Folklore and those other brands (might even come from the same woodshop) but have a few layers of strength through them.
I had a few come through the shop and the guys that skated them thought they were pretty good.
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On the Folklore decks, regular board was the sog. I'm on the FibreTech now to see how that holds up.
I have a Globe G3 and did have an Almost in my hands. Both look to be discs but not 100%
My Globe G3 has outlasted 4 other boards. The impact jazz they have seen to do the job and it hasn't razor tailed as quickly as my other decks.[close]
Ever tried the Elan Redline decks?
They are a similar concave to Folklore and those other brands (might even come from the same woodshop) but have a few layers of strength through them.
I had a few come through the shop and the guys that skated them thought they were pretty good.[close]
No I have not, I was looking at them yesterday. They have a carbon insert i think too.
Probably the same woodshop which I have yet to CSI the source. China is doing a bunch of CF boards but none are similar to the ones that Elan or Folklore are putting out. Preduce (a brand from Thailand) is doing CF boards and I suspect it's from the same woodshop as the Elan or Folklore ones.
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Probably the same woodshop which I have yet to CSI the source. China is doing a bunch of CF boards but none are similar to the ones that Elan or Folklore are putting out. Preduce (a brand from Thailand) is doing CF boards and I suspect it's from the same woodshop as the Elan or Folklore ones.[close]
Try Excel for the woodshop, which is what someone else said to me, but I would not know exactly though. It fits with the pricepoint / budget version wood source too.
The main difference is the Folklore decks I have in pieces from other skaters all have just the one carbon fibre top, but the Redlines have the carbon fibre top, as well as at least one, maybe two other layers through the wood, which definitely make them a lot longer lasting and almost unbreakable, but I have seen one that snapped but still didn't want to come apart into two pieces. Wish I had taken pics of it at the time, but it was interesting to see.
Are they hard and stiff? I've also found Folklore razor tail quick af. One week in and it's not 100% gone but if I ride 5 more times this week the decks done in 2.
Here are a couple of links that have names of woodshops in China, who supply to some of the biggest names in the skate industry.
https://www.listthe.com/skateboard
https://matchory.com/top-skateboard-manufacturing-companies
List includes:
HUIZHOU EXCEL SPORTING GOODS LTD
HUIZHOU CHOP CHOP WOODSHOP CO LTD (Dwindle)
ZHONGSHAN JEEPING WOODEN INDUSTRIAL
As was said earlier, when you see names like Crailtap or NHS we know all their stuff is made in China now, but names like Skate One (Powell) or Deluxe, it would seem it is only their cheap completes, or other goods that come from China, not their normal wood or their pro trucks or Spitfire wheels, etc.
I know this has been posted before, but having the links all in the one post is easier for me too:
https://sgbonline.com/dwindle-opens-chop-chop-wood-shop-in-china-for-skate-decks/
Expand QuoteHere are a couple of links that have names of woodshops in China, who supply to some of the biggest names in the skate industry.
https://www.listthe.com/skateboard
https://matchory.com/top-skateboard-manufacturing-companies
List includes:
HUIZHOU EXCEL SPORTING GOODS LTD
HUIZHOU CHOP CHOP WOODSHOP CO LTD (Dwindle)
ZHONGSHAN JEEPING WOODEN INDUSTRIAL
As was said earlier, when you see names like Crailtap or NHS we know all their stuff is made in China now, but names like Skate One (Powell) or Deluxe, it would seem it is only their cheap completes, or other goods that come from China, not their normal wood or their pro trucks or Spitfire wheels, etc.
I know this has been posted before, but having the links all in the one post is easier for me too:
https://sgbonline.com/dwindle-opens-chop-chop-wood-shop-in-china-for-skate-decks/[close]
My current pair of spits had a made in china label on them
Would it be safe to assume that almost all price point product nowdays would be made in China, including those variants on Zumiez Spitfire wheels then?
I saw the most recent lot of DLX pricepoint decks were still BBS, but I guess things like those wheels would be easier to mass produce than other things, but I did see a pic of packaging on Spitfire Scorchers which had "Made in Mexico" on it.
Which version are they? A pic or just a link to shop would be good.
Expand QuoteFoundation is Watson though, Watson’s Instagram account has their most recent boards on there. Could it be that Canadian and US boards are different?[close]
That’s a new development then. Foundation used Watson for a while again back in the mid 2010s, but they went to BBS as well, then PS, then China. Probably using Watson after complaints on the China boards. Tum Yeto actually owns Watson but the woodshop presses primarily longboards and old school/pool shapes.
My question is - is DSM a specific woodshop or a process? I've seen a couple of brands in China with the DSM cardboard insert (the one gripping the rail of the deck). And it's unlikely that Dwindle would work with a woodshop with only 1 production facility. I'm sure they have a few scattered around China to support the demand.
Are the Anti Hero Classic eagle decks considered price point? I want to get the 9.0. Are they made out of the recycled wood that I read some Real price points are made of?
Are the Anti Hero Classic eagle decks considered price point? I want to get the 9.0. Are they made out of the recycled wood that I read some Real price points are made of?
This was the most recent price point AH series, the Budgie, unless they have another lot out since, as I have one of the old Feeding Frenzy from a couple of years ago, which still skates ok, but you can really tell the difference between the budget wood and the pro wood on the DLX brands.
https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/spring20/ah-spr20d1-09.jpg
https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/spring-2020-drop-1/
Compare that to the current range, which seems a bit more streamlined.
https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/catalog/
* Note quite often I would see the AH team or price point boards were still done on the good wood, maybe if they ran out of cheap wood or just messed up in production, so I managed to snag quite a few which were amazing to skate. The pro wood always had at least two or three colour ply layers, sometimes more and felt really stiff, but the cheap stuff often had only one on top more recently and used to have no coloured ply on some decks and were very soft and flexible, which I saw didn't last all that long for most of the people who skated them. I could still skate them and not have any issues, but I don't skate half as hard as most people.
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All the eagles are on the good stuff, eg the orange 9 x 33 with a 15 wheelbase is great if you like really big long boards.
Some of the other ones of the same popsicle 9 width are not quite so long, eg Baker 9 is really the same length and wheelbase as most smaller boards, which is a bit weird to skate, but still works well enough.
any insights on a 33 with 15 inch wheelbase but closer to 8.5? been on a hunt for a while and no dice. thinking i might just grab the orange eagle and deal with it.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAre the Anti Hero Classic eagle decks considered price point? I want to get the 9.0. Are they made out of the recycled wood that I read some Real price points are made of?[close]
All the eagles are on the good stuff, eg the orange 9 x 33 with a 15 wheelbase is great if you like really big long boards.
Some of the other ones of the same popsicle 9 width are not quite so long, eg Baker 9 is really the same length and wheelbase as most smaller boards, which is a bit weird to skate, but still works well enough.[close]
any insights on a 33 with 15 inch wheelbase but closer to 8.5? been on a hunt for a while and no dice. thinking i might just grab the orange eagle and deal with it.
Does anyone know if the Crailtap Couch/Loveseat decks are made of the current wood? I assume so since these released in June, but the product image lacks the laser engraving that all the current wood decks have (I'd rather not buy it and go through the hassle of returns if it turns out it's the old wood).
https://crailstore.com/collections/everything/#filter:type=decks&brand=crailtap&size=9&size=9-25
https://crailtap.com/2020/06/26/mini-top-5-dan-plunkett/
any insights on a 33 with 15 inch wheelbase but closer to 8.5? been on a hunt for a while and no dice. thinking i might just grab the orange eagle and deal with it.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAre the Anti Hero Classic eagle decks considered price point? I want to get the 9.0. Are they made out of the recycled wood that I read some Real price points are made of?[close]
All the eagles are on the good stuff, eg the orange 9 x 33 with a 15 wheelbase is great if you like really big long boards.
Some of the other ones of the same popsicle 9 width are not quite so long, eg Baker 9 is really the same length and wheelbase as most smaller boards, which is a bit weird to skate, but still works well enough.[close]
any insights on a 33 with 15 inch wheelbase but closer to 8.5? been on a hunt for a while and no dice. thinking i might just grab the orange eagle and deal with it.
Order a bunch of boards from a shop and the used an old box for shipping. Couldn't help noticing the Toy Machine logo and the Made in China wording. Guess it confirms the COVID-19 batch of decks were not from US woodshops.
EwExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAre the Anti Hero Classic eagle decks considered price point? I want to get the 9.0. Are they made out of the recycled wood that I read some Real price points are made of?[close]
All the eagles are on the good stuff, eg the orange 9 x 33 with a 15 wheelbase is great if you like really big long boards.
Some of the other ones of the same popsicle 9 width are not quite so long, eg Baker 9 is really the same length and wheelbase as most smaller boards, which is a bit weird to skate, but still works well enough.[close]
any insights on a 33 with 15 inch wheelbase but closer to 8.5? been on a hunt for a while and no dice. thinking i might just grab the orange eagle and deal with it.[close]
Quasi usually has a 8.5x33 15WB in at least every drop.
(https://i.imgur.com/4HQGtX0l.jpg)
Order a bunch of boards from a shop and the used an old box for shipping. Couldn't help noticing the Toy Machine logo and the Made in China wording. Guess it confirms the COVID-19 batch of decks were not from US woodshops.
No Tumyeto production run (ie not special edition) decks I'm aware of are from a US woodshop other than the Ovals and OG monsters, and those are almost certainly only for the US market. Tumyeto using Chinese woodshops is nothing new and has been the standard in some non-US markets for a while. You can look back through the old woodshop threads from like 2017 and earlier and theres some discussion about it. The price points in the US have been chinese for a while and in some places in the EU almost everything seems to be chinese although I've also seen PS decks floating around in the UK shops. I'd imagine Asia/Oceania are the same.
Basically what I'm saying is that nothings really changed with how they're doing things other than some Watson production runs finding their way in and maybe some clutch runs to pick up the slack from PS (haven't confirmed that though). The chinese boards have always been there.
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any insights on a 33 with 15 inch wheelbase but closer to 8.5? been on a hunt for a while and no dice. thinking i might just grab the orange eagle and deal with it.[close]
If you were in Australia, I can recommend Elan decks, as I have a couple with a 15 wheelbase and decent length, but if USA or other, I know some boards from Dwindle, mainly Madness did have those dimensions too.
Some shops online have search by wheelbase so even if you are not going to buy from the shop, you can still look up info from them and then search closer to your own location.
https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/shop/decks.html?wheelbase=652
Pretty sure madness do a 33 long with 15 wheelbase, I have a fardell deck that is 32.6 long x 15 wb & 8.5" width
Man if F4's are made in china, might have to start over kilning them under desk lamps again aye brimmo
Does anybody of you know of which manufacture Radioskateboards are coming from?
If you like deep concave then it should work for you.
European so maybe Jart or the other imported blanks from China or even Dwindle maybe?
Radio skateboards, from Berlin Germany, instagram from 2012, current boards look like the same shape and concave as all, nothing on top to mark it besides a small round custom sticker over the back truck area that looks to have options for low or deep, but it is hard to make out. The graphic of this one is pretty funny though, and info from ebay:
The new "Faker" skate deck from the Berlin house of Radio Skateboards consists of a 7-layer maple construction glued with epoxy resin and has a tough pop.
Since it's epoxy glued I'm guessing china. I'm not sure if HLC does epoxy or not, but I know it's very uncommon outside of China. I've skated two HLC decks, the first being a Sour that could probably have passed for epoxy because of how stiff and sturdy it was, but the second was a Plan B that felt more like a traditional cold press franklin sk-8 glue deck.
I've found the best way to get an answer is usually to DM the company like a man and ask who's pressing their decks. If they ignore you or give you a non-answer then it's usually safe to assume china.
I'm going to take this opportunity to once again preach that just because a deck is made in china it doesn't mean its going to be bad. Dwindle/DSM makes some very good boards, especially if you like stiff decks (that's dEcks @SneakySecrets , so don't get too excited). The ones PGI uses are quite good too in my opinion, solid pop and they're short and very flat which makes them perfect for old dudes like me.
I was thinking I needed to get you (and your valued input) in on this, more than anything else, especially with something I don't know about, like that.
Also I still see an amazing amount of mis information, eg they say these are the best wood with the best glue or epoxy or whatever, but then they are often not, or one run might have been that and then the rest are now on something else.
Also, really "best" is such a subjective thing.
If you're able to go to a local shop and check it out in person that's always the best option.
Pass~Port and WKND are different manufacturers, but both under Hyperion Distribution?
What woodshop makes Roger?
Expand QuotePass~Port and WKND are different manufacturers, but both under Hyperion Distribution?
What woodshop makes Roger?[close]
Passport is BBS
WKND is PS Stix
The distributor is the middleman, so can take on as many or as few brands as they are able, no matter where the individual brands get their boards made, and then send them to all their accounts (the skate shops) in a given area.
Roger decks I could see the tops of look to have the letter stamp, which is most common from but not limited to Clutch.
https://www.clutchdistribution.com/popsicle.html
Probably has been mentioned before, but I'm sleep deprived and go through all the pages of this thread:
What wood manufacturer does Darkroom use? Drkrm? Either way I'm assuming generator or ps
Where are/were Mystery boards pressed?
Someone is selling them really cheap and with my preferred dimensions nearby.
Expand QuoteWhere are/were Mystery boards pressed?
Someone is selling them really cheap and with my preferred dimensions nearby.[close]
Wish I had a concrete answer but the Mystery deck I got recently only came with a Surplus Distribution sticker (https://www.instagram.com/surplusskate/, www.surpluskate.com is a dead link). Didn't see any laser engraving near the bolt holes.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhere are/were Mystery boards pressed?
Someone is selling them really cheap and with my preferred dimensions nearby.[close]
Wish I had a concrete answer but the Mystery deck I got recently only came with a Surplus Distribution sticker (https://www.instagram.com/surplusskate/, www.surpluskate.com is a dead link). Didn't see any laser engraving near the bolt holes.[close]
Have you skated it? If there is no identifiable woodshop I might not take my chances.
Nope, it's wider than I like 8.38 so I'm keeping it as a wall hanger. Sorry I don't have a better answer, I shot an email to Mystery and they told me to ask Surplus, then Surplus didn't answer my question about the woodshop. If they are cheap they could be worth a try, maybe don't order 10.
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Nope, it's wider than I like 8.38 so I'm keeping it as a wall hanger. Sorry I don't have a better answer, I shot an email to Mystery and they told me to ask Surplus, then Surplus didn't answer my question about the woodshop. If they are cheap they could be worth a try, maybe don't order 10.[close]
Pic of the top / stand on it on carpet or a mat and see if it feels like the BBS concave?
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Nope, it's wider than I like 8.38 so I'm keeping it as a wall hanger. Sorry I don't have a better answer, I shot an email to Mystery and they told me to ask Surplus, then Surplus didn't answer my question about the woodshop. If they are cheap they could be worth a try, maybe don't order 10.[close]
Pic of the top / stand on it on carpet or a mat and see if it feels like the BBS concave?[close]
NO NOW!!!!!
But no really, it is not a worry.
The Mystery decks in pics I have seen from US shops have what looks more like the BBS or Tumyeto warning sticker, certainly different from the small black size circle sticker on local ones here.
I'll do that when I get down to some spring cleaning over the weekend. The deck is in a storage box and living in a tiny apartment makes moving stuff in and out a pain.
Where are/were Mystery boards pressed?
Someone is selling them really cheap and with my preferred dimensions nearby.
The Mystery decks in pics I have seen from US shops have what looks more like the BBS or Tumyeto warning sticker, certainly different from the small black size circle sticker on local ones here.
Expand QuoteWhere are/were Mystery boards pressed?
Someone is selling them really cheap and with my preferred dimensions nearby.[close]
I think they were from the black box Mexican woodshop (can never remember the name) years ago and then when they closed they went somewhere else and now I have no idea. Clutch would be my best guess simply because they seem to be the preferred manufacturer for smaller/less popular brands. If you're able to look at them in person or get the seller to send a high resolution photo you might be able to make out some distinguishing marks or mold stamp. Alternatively, you could just send an email or DM them like a man and ask.Expand Quote
The Mystery decks in pics I have seen from US shops have what looks more like the BBS or Tumyeto warning sticker, certainly different from the small black size circle sticker on local ones here.[close]
Theres at least one (and probably several) Chinese manufacturers that use an almost identical red/white warning sticker to the BBS one. I've also seen them from smaller places like sk8 factory in the US. Ive been fooled by those stickers more than once, which is another reason why it's always best to either check them out in person if you can.
Theres at least one (and probably several) Chinese manufacturers that use an almost identical red/white warning sticker to the BBS one. I've also seen them from smaller places like sk8 factory in the US. Ive been fooled by those stickers more than once, which is another reason why it's always best to either check them out in person if you can.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMagenta have some 8.38's x 31.75 with a 14" wheelbase[close]
BRB!!! Been looking for this!! Bless you. haha
Anyone know where I can find these? Google is no help.[close]
https://www.noteshop.co.uk/products/magenta-zebra-deck-8-375
They're listed as 8.375. I didn't scour the net too much but here's one on a UK site.[close]
Thanks! They are sold out currently. I didn't think it would be so hard to find them. The size and the brand. haha
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMagenta have some 8.38's x 31.75 with a 14" wheelbase[close]
BRB!!! Been looking for this!! Bless you. haha
Anyone know where I can find these? Google is no help.[close]
https://www.noteshop.co.uk/products/magenta-zebra-deck-8-375
They're listed as 8.375. I didn't scour the net too much but here's one on a UK site.[close]
Thanks! They are sold out currently. I didn't think it would be so hard to find them. The size and the brand. haha[close]
People looking for 8.3 approximate size with about 14 wheelbase...
Anyone know or able to help?
Expand QuoteI heard from a “reliable source” that Primitive bought Clutch.Expand QuoteAre primitive price point decks BBS as well?[close]
Dont think so team boards are from China[close]
Is this newest run of Primitive BBS? They look a lot like clutch O Shape in their most recent insta posts.
Anybody know who’s pressing Scram’s wood?
I’ve picked up two for the stockpile during the COVIDs, and they’re... well, different.
Way too thick to be BBS, and the kicks & cave are not the same either. No tell tale markings, either.
Did I mention they’re super thick?
Anyhow, I haven’t set either of them up yet, and their origin won’t affect whether or when I ride they, so it hardly matters to me.
I am aware, however, that the wood shop directory is a point of great pride for all the S&G board heads, so in the interest of upholding one of our finest institutions, I ask if any fellow PALS have current info on Scram.
Shalom.
Anybody know who’s pressing Scram’s wood?
I’ve picked up two for the stockpile during the COVIDs, and they’re... well, different.
Way too thick to be BBS, and the kicks & cave are not the same either. No tell tale markings, either.
Did I mention they’re super thick?
Anyhow, I haven’t set either of them up yet, and their origin won’t affect whether or when I ride they, so it hardly matters to me.
I am aware, however, that the wood shop directory is a point of great pride for all the S&G board heads, so in the interest of upholding one of our finest institutions, I ask if any fellow PALS have current info on Scram.
Shalom.
Expand QuoteAnybody know who’s pressing Scram’s wood?
I’ve picked up two for the stockpile during the COVIDs, and they’re... well, different.
Way too thick to be BBS, and the kicks & cave are not the same either. No tell tale markings, either.
Did I mention they’re super thick?
Anyhow, I haven’t set either of them up yet, and their origin won’t affect whether or when I ride they, so it hardly matters to me.
I am aware, however, that the wood shop directory is a point of great pride for all the S&G board heads, so in the interest of upholding one of our finest institutions, I ask if any fellow PALS have current info on Scram.
Shalom.[close]
I’m curious too. I’ve had three Scrams and they are all definitely thicker than any other BBS I’ve had and don’t feel like South central either. Neither the concaves nor the thickness feel consistent with either wood shop as far as I have seen. The most recent Scram I had sogged out pretty quick which I haven’t experienced with either wood shop too.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnybody know who’s pressing Scram’s wood?
I’ve picked up two for the stockpile during the COVIDs, and they’re... well, different.
Way too thick to be BBS, and the kicks & cave are not the same either. No tell tale markings, either.
Did I mention they’re super thick?
Anyhow, I haven’t set either of them up yet, and their origin won’t affect whether or when I ride they, so it hardly matters to me.
I am aware, however, that the wood shop directory is a point of great pride for all the S&G board heads, so in the interest of upholding one of our finest institutions, I ask if any fellow PALS have current info on Scram.
Shalom.[close]
I’m curious too. I’ve had three Scrams and they are all definitely thicker than any other BBS I’ve had and don’t feel like South central either. Neither the concaves nor the thickness feel consistent with either wood shop as far as I have seen. The most recent Scram I had sogged out pretty quick which I haven’t experienced with either wood shop too.[close]
Scram is Prime, or at least the latest ones are. Never skated one myself so I'm just going by pics so I don't know how recent of a change that is or whatever. Prime does the size print on top ply between the bottom truck holes and U5 is their standard concave mold. You can buy U5 blanks from socal and a few other places.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Scram_Scramhain_Pop_Deck/descpage-SRSCRMH82DK.html
Ahhh, gotcha, thanks for the info! The one that I liked most was this
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/scram-skate-btp-lupe-dope-shaped-skateboard-deck-880-7-3928518852675/
Which had a real nice steep concave/kicks and didn’t dog out at all. I would definitely mess with this shape again, or blanks with that mold
I know is a long shot but maybe someone knows the woodshop?Clutch would be my guess.
(https://i.imgur.com/pF6eAFCl.jpg)
The shape of this board is quite on the square end of the spectrum if that makes any senseClutch would be my guess.Expand QuoteI know is a long shot but maybe someone knows the woodshop?
(https://i.imgur.com/pF6eAFCl.jpg)[close]
Basing that on their O series of shapes & the existence of an O9 shape in some online literature I saw once, but could totally be wrong.
Would recommend awaiting word from an authority like Buttfart though, rather than taking my 2 cents to the market to buy a loaf of bread.
Does anyone know the wheelbase on the 8.3 or 8.5 deck? I’ve emailed and took it to Insta like a man.
https://newyorkskateboards.com/products/blank-skateboard?variant=36930531819692
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know the wheelbase on the 8.3 or 8.5 deck? I’ve emailed and took it to Insta like a man.
https://newyorkskateboards.com/products/blank-skateboard?variant=36930531819692[close]
Glenn Chapman sent me this a couple years ago. Same dimensions since they switched to Clutch AFAIK.
(https://i.imgur.com/x7XLbaG.png)
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https://newyorkskateboards.com/products/blank-skateboard?variant=36930531819692[close]
Glenn Chapman sent me this a couple years ago. Same dimensions since they switched to Clutch AFAIK.
(https://i.imgur.com/x7XLbaG.png)[close]
Thank you so much!!
Edit. I just got an email and they must have changed some dims. I already ordered so I’m gonna skate them ha.I’ll live ha.
Click on it to see the whole chart (https://i.ibb.co/dGhtB6K/955-E030-A-13-A9-424-C-B905-EB3312-A5866-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dGhtB6K)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone know the wheelbase on the 8.3 or 8.5 deck? I’ve emailed and took it to Insta like a man.
https://newyorkskateboards.com/products/blank-skateboard?variant=36930531819692[close]
Glenn Chapman sent me this a couple years ago. Same dimensions since they switched to Clutch AFAIK.
(https://i.imgur.com/x7XLbaG.png)[close]
Thank you so much!!
Edit. I just got an email and they must have changed some dims. I already ordered so I’m gonna skate them ha.I’ll live ha.
Click on it to see the whole chart (https://i.ibb.co/dGhtB6K/955-E030-A-13-A9-424-C-B905-EB3312-A5866-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dGhtB6K)[close]
Thanks for posting! Sorry for the outdated info.
The shape of this board is quite on the square end of the spectrum if that makes any senseExpand QuoteClutch would be my guess.Expand QuoteI know is a long shot but maybe someone knows the woodshop?
(https://i.imgur.com/pF6eAFCl.jpg)[close]
Basing that on their O series of shapes & the existence of an O9 shape in some online literature I saw once, but could totally be wrong.
Would recommend awaiting word from an authority like Buttfart though, rather than taking my 2 cents to the market to buy a loaf of bread.[close]
Does anyone know the wheelbase on the 8.3 or 8.5 deck? I’ve emailed and took it to Insta like a man.
https://newyorkskateboards.com/products/blank-skateboard?variant=36930531819692
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know the wheelbase on the 8.3 or 8.5 deck? I’ve emailed and took it to Insta like a man.
https://newyorkskateboards.com/products/blank-skateboard?variant=36930531819692[close]
cool they redid their site and added inventory. was gonna get a blank the other month but 8.25s were out. just ordered one. $35 and free ship... can't really go wrong
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know the wheelbase on the 8.3 or 8.5 deck? I’ve emailed and took it to Insta like a man.
https://newyorkskateboards.com/products/blank-skateboard?variant=36930531819692[close]
cool they redid their site and added inventory. was gonna get a blank the other month but 8.25s were out. just ordered one. $35 and free ship... can't really go wrong
got one of these Prime blanks from Socal and this thing is awesome. but they're all sold out. anyone know what board companies also use this wood/shape? its the 8.25 P22 shape
(https://i.imgur.com/0rBH1GV.jpg)
got one of these Prime blanks from Socal and this thing is awesome. but they're all sold out. anyone know what board companies also use this wood/shape? its the 8.25 P22 shape
(https://i.imgur.com/0rBH1GV.jpg)
What?!Expand Quotegot one of these Prime blanks from Socal and this thing is awesome. but they're all sold out. anyone know what board companies also use this wood/shape? its the 8.25 P22 shape
(https://i.imgur.com/0rBH1GV.jpg)[close]
Blackout & Goodwood are prime
Go to Zumiez, get one for 30$ and sand the graphic off
jagger eaton is selling prime blanks on the berrics, but they're like 80$
What?!Expand QuoteExpand Quotegot one of these Prime blanks from Socal and this thing is awesome. but they're all sold out. anyone know what board companies also use this wood/shape? its the 8.25 P22 shape
(https://i.imgur.com/0rBH1GV.jpg)[close]
Blackout & Goodwood are prime
Go to Zumiez, get one for 30$ and sand the graphic off
jagger eaton is selling prime blanks on the berrics, but they're like 80$[close]
Are these also Clutch O shape? I’ve been looking for an 8.1 O shape and if these are that... I might’ve found my winner.
Anyone know where Skatemental boards are pressed?
Anyone know where Skatemental boards are pressed?
How’s the concave on 5Boro boards ?concave is good on them, just a solud medium underfoot and steep nose and tails. i think politic does more for shape and concave variety from sc.
They’re the only South Central boards (unless that’s changed recently) I can find in Canada right now, and SC are also the only boards stiff enough that my 200lbs ass can’t snap.
My go-to brand, Morning Bell, is out of stock ‘til I don’t know when right now
Used to be a Chapman guy but unfortunately they don’t make their own boards anymore.
Well, for any of the Clutch fans out there, if there’s a smaller brand that uses their wood on a shape you like, buy em up now while you can.
They’re basically extorting their customers by requiring a $3 per board increase if you want your shit made, even if it was ordered months ago. And even then there’s no guarantee that it’ll land before 2021.
Obviously, this adds up quick.
I get that COVID hit skate manufacturing hard but this pretty much throws the smaller guys under the bus.
Sucks cause these guys basically built a company on supplying smaller and indie brands, but end of the day, money talks.
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https://newyorkskateboards.com/products/blank-skateboard?variant=36930531819692[close]
cool they redid their site and added inventory. was gonna get a blank the other month but 8.25s were out. just ordered one. $35 and free ship... can't really go wrong[close]
Are these also Clutch O shape? I’ve been looking for an 8.1 O shape and if these are that... I might’ve found my winner.
Is there any truth to the maple story?
Man I’ve been kicking around the idea of doing a small board brand for 10 years. Nothing crazy maybe 50-100 boards sell enough to keep it going and not have to pay for my own boards hopefully. Got the perfect name ideas for the direction, watching the new Tom Knox part got me stoked and thinking of it more (idk why) but now if I did pull the trigger I doubt I could get boards. Or at least quality ones that I’d be stoked on. Also always just wanted to make a custom shape.
That being said, anyone know what my best option would be? I’d think Clutch ? south central? Owns wood? I’ve skated tons of Clutch boards I like the O shape but sometimes they are a bit soggy brand new. I never skated a south central, can anyone confirm this is what Solace of Mind still uses? Like their boards and wouldn’t mind the excuse to buy one even though I don’t need boards at all. Also never skated a pens wood.
Lloyd keep in mind that if you order boards now, the wait production time has gone crazy. You’ll either be waiting months and some shops aren’t taking orders at all anymore
I randomly bought a Corner Store deck off Orchard. Any idea what woodshop they are?
Does anyone know the full measurements and general shape of Zero’s 8.12 and 8.25s? Kinda wanting to skate one for the sake of nostalgia lately.
Recent FA boards say "Hecho en Mexico" on the top ply. No PS Stix laser stamp/serial to be seen. What shop makes those if it's not PS Stix?
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FA and Hockey have been BBS for a while now.
22 Board Co - https://22boardco.com/
Interesting graphics with holograms and the 22Wet decks come with a slick bottom. Zumiez had a 8.0 deck listed a while ago, 8 x 31.6 x 14.
Anyone know their source?
Expand Quote22 Board Co - https://22boardco.com/
Interesting graphics with holograms and the 22Wet decks come with a slick bottom. Zumiez had a 8.0 deck listed a while ago, 8 x 31.6 x 14.
Anyone know their source?[close]
I had a look and then looked some more, the only one I could find that had anything like a sticker or anything on it looked similar (copied) maple leaf, but I don't think it was the same. Nice looking shape though.
https://www.zumiez.com/22-board-co-laveau-8-5-skateboard-deck.html
This one has more the maple leaf sticker I have seen on Control decks though
https://www.zumiez.com/22-board-co-lush-8-0-skateboard-deck.html
I randomly bought a Corner Store deck off Orchard. Any idea what woodshop they are?
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A pic of the top would help, if there were any distinguishing markings, sticker, size info, etc.
A search turned up some boards by Control, the sticker with red maple leaf.
https://cornerstoreskateco.bigcartel.com/product/cirque-board
took the sticker off and its just a small circular indent.
If it's an 8.6, I'd guess pennswood - they usually have the number of the decimal after 8 right there 2 for 8.25s and 1 for 8.1s, etc..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI randomly bought a Corner Store deck off Orchard. Any idea what woodshop they are?[close]
A pic of the top would help, if there were any distinguishing markings, sticker, size info, etc.
A search turned up some boards by Control, the sticker with red maple leaf.
https://cornerstoreskateco.bigcartel.com/product/cirque-board[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/qgqk7S3/AE78878-F-845-D-4-E3-E-9-F0-B-466-B489-B80-E5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qgqk7S3)
It’s got a 6 printed in the hardware holes near the nose. It seems like a pretty good deck I was just curious.
Anyone know Alien Workshops status? They haven't had a drop since summer I feel like.
Really dug their shapes. Might just spend the seventy bucks on a Quasi delivery but goddamn. Trying times my dudes, trying times
Expand Quotetook the sticker off and its just a small circular indent.[close]
That is how half of all my BBS boards come. Maybe accidental
got some anti hero classic eagles at the shop i work at a couple of weeks ago. the 2 9" orange eagle decks we got did not have the roman numerals on the top ply, and the warning sticker was right where the numerals would be. took the sticker off and its just a small circular indent. im curious if these are worse quality, or just taken from another pile in the wood shop
Man I’ve been kicking around the idea of doing a small board brand for 10 years. Nothing crazy maybe 50-100 boards sell enough to keep it going and not have to pay for my own boards hopefully. Got the perfect name ideas for the direction, watching the new Tom Knox part got me stoked and thinking of it more (idk why) but now if I did pull the trigger I doubt I could get boards. Or at least quality ones that I’d be stoked on. Also always just wanted to make a custom shape.
That being said, anyone know what my best option would be? I’d think Clutch ? south central? Owns wood? I’ve skated tons of Clutch boards I like the O shape but sometimes they are a bit soggy brand new. I never skated a south central, can anyone confirm this is what Solace of Mind still uses? Like their boards and wouldn’t mind the excuse to buy one even though I don’t need boards at all. Also never skated a pens wood.
strange... we got that whole series of decks and they all had numerals. check this photo on ccs, you can see the IV https://shop.ccs.com/anti-hero-brown-bomber-eagle-skateboard-deck-8-86 (https://shop.ccs.com/anti-hero-brown-bomber-eagle-skateboard-deck-8-86)Expand Quotegot some anti hero classic eagles at the shop i work at a couple of weeks ago. the 2 9" orange eagle decks we got did not have the roman numerals on the top ply, and the warning sticker was right where the numerals would be. took the sticker off and its just a small circular indent. im curious if these are worse quality, or just taken from another pile in the wood shop[close]
I ride the Brown bomber antihero shape and it never had a roman numeral on it. I dont think the specialty shapes get a roman numeral.
Expand QuoteAnyone know Alien Workshops status? They haven't had a drop since summer I feel like.
Really dug their shapes. Might just spend the seventy bucks on a Quasi delivery but goddamn. Trying times my dudes, trying times[close]
Was wondering the same thing. I wonder how they can sustain their business after so long with out selling any decks.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone know Alien Workshops status? They haven't had a drop since summer I feel like.
Really dug their shapes. Might just spend the seventy bucks on a Quasi delivery but goddamn. Trying times my dudes, trying times[close]
Was wondering the same thing. I wonder how they can sustain their business after so long with out selling any decks.[close]
Australia just had some more stock from not too long ago...
If they are like everyone else and not getting much, then it is going straight out and I guess you would only see via social media of shops you follow or see in store.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CF_h2HBJfef/
If it's an 8.6, I'd guess pennswood - they usually have the number of the decimal after 8 right there 2 for 8.25s and 1 for 8.1s, etc..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI randomly bought a Corner Store deck off Orchard. Any idea what woodshop they are?[close]
A pic of the top would help, if there were any distinguishing markings, sticker, size info, etc.
A search turned up some boards by Control, the sticker with red maple leaf.
https://cornerstoreskateco.bigcartel.com/product/cirque-board[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/qgqk7S3/AE78878-F-845-D-4-E3-E-9-F0-B-466-B489-B80-E5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qgqk7S3)
It’s got a 6 printed in the hardware holes near the nose. It seems like a pretty good deck I was just curious.[close]
Anyone know Alien Workshops status? They haven't had a drop since summer I feel like.
Really dug their shapes. Might just spend the seventy bucks on a Quasi delivery but goddamn. Trying times my dudes, trying times
(https://i.imgur.com/F7ppLY8l.jpg)
Pretty excited, 3rd AWS I ever bought in my life. First one after the reboot.
I never thought I’d say this but has anyone skated the blind RHM decks or Darkstar HYB decks? I assume it’s there price point? Is that construction anything more than a cheap deck?
I’m on some straight budget shit. Does any price point deck stand out above the rest ? Idk if I can fuck with Chapman’s wheel base and mini logos are 14.375 wheel base I think. The larger company’s price points are a little more but dimensions seem a little better.
Mini logos are 14.375 wheel base I think. The larger company’s price points are a little more but dimensions seem a little better.
Expand QuoteIf it's an 8.6, I'd guess pennswood - they usually have the number of the decimal after 8 right there 2 for 8.25s and 1 for 8.1s, etc..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI randomly bought a Corner Store deck off Orchard. Any idea what woodshop they are?[close]
A pic of the top would help, if there were any distinguishing markings, sticker, size info, etc.
A search turned up some boards by Control, the sticker with red maple leaf.
https://cornerstoreskateco.bigcartel.com/product/cirque-board[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/qgqk7S3/AE78878-F-845-D-4-E3-E-9-F0-B-466-B489-B80-E5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qgqk7S3)
It’s got a 6 printed in the hardware holes near the nose. It seems like a pretty good deck I was just curious.[close][close]
It's an 8.0. I have no qualms about this deck though it seems like a poppy crisp mofo to me. Whatever wood shop it is, I'd say it's a good one. Different than the Krooked I'm riding now but I'm looking forward to it.
currently have a south central, but my next board is bbs made. what major differences should i expect
If it's an 8.6, I'd guess pennswood - they usually have the number of the decimal after 8 right there 2 for 8.25s and 1 for 8.1s, etc..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI randomly bought a Corner Store deck off Orchard. Any idea what woodshop they are?[close]
A pic of the top would help, if there were any distinguishing markings, sticker, size info, etc.
A search turned up some boards by Control, the sticker with red maple leaf.
https://cornerstoreskateco.bigcartel.com/product/cirque-board[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/qgqk7S3/AE78878-F-845-D-4-E3-E-9-F0-B-466-B489-B80-E5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qgqk7S3)
It’s got a 6 printed in the hardware holes near the nose. It seems like a pretty good deck I was just curious.[close]
Expand Quotecurrently have a south central, but my next board is bbs made. what major differences should i expect[close]
Lighter, a bit thinner but not as stiff, especially in the tail.. Skates real well but won’t keep pop as long, and might be more prone to chipping from my experience. Little to no break-in time and has a lot more shape options than SC.
I rode BBS for a long time, went to Chapman and now prefer SC simply because I like my boards stiff as hell. Both great woodshops though, if I can’t find a SC, I go BBS with no hesitation.
@Mbrimson88 type in Alien Workshop decks in google a search, literally nothing comes up.
Just checked their web store tho and it looks like they'll be restocked soon.
Expand QuoteMini logos are 14.375 wheel base I think. The larger company’s price points are a little more but dimensions seem a little better.[close]
Mini Logo:
8" has 14" wb
8.25" has 14.25 wb
8.5" has 14.38 wb
8.75 has 15 wb
They have super flat kicks on the 8 to 8.5". I didn't like them to begin with, but now really do. I have around 8 or 9 boards built up right now and choose to skate both my 8" and 8.5" mini logos as often or more often than my other setups. The wood doesn't last as long, but it doesn't bother me for what I'm paying.
Yeah I chip boards a lot lately on the nose. Usually 2-3 weeks in I get a huge chip so the wood just needs to feel good til then. 14.375 wb sounds pretty good. I may put Indy ti on them. So it will stretch it out a little. What trucks do you have on you 8.5?
Has any one tried a real renewal or the nhs hard rock decks?
What companies are using pgi?
Please and thanks
Cross posting but the Maxallure deck came a few days ago. 8.75” x 32.5” tape down x 14.5” wb. China wood? Dunno, just a size sticker on top back bolts and round indent at front.
(https://i.ibb.co/0B0dZjK/6525-ED79-C768-4-F47-82-C9-AB4-A936-DA656.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/7rwGSzQ/61-C10-CC3-C3-D5-4-E3-F-B3-A8-C85507-B946-B3.jpg)
Expand QuoteWhat companies are using pgi?
Please and thanks[close]
Pre covid, if I recall from pics and info Maxallure, ATM, Consolidated and some smaller brands I have seen in Aus which would not be in the US.
They had the clear sticky tape rectangular looking sticker with the size on it, as per this post. Very mellow and nice shapes from the ones I stood on and had seen, lasted a reasonable amount of time too.Expand QuoteCross posting but the Maxallure deck came a few days ago. 8.75” x 32.5” tape down x 14.5” wb. China wood? Dunno, just a size sticker on top back bolts and round indent at front.
(https://i.ibb.co/0B0dZjK/6525-ED79-C768-4-F47-82-C9-AB4-A936-DA656.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/7rwGSzQ/61-C10-CC3-C3-D5-4-E3-F-B3-A8-C85507-B946-B3.jpg)[close]
Anyone have experience riding 8.25 x 32.25" boards? Managed to uncover a batch of old Mystery decks (after they went colorized, Tom Asta was still a pro with them) on clearance and thinking about stocking up on a couple.
Last Habitat I rode at was 8.25 x 32.125 x 14.25, impossible with Indys, so-so with Thunders, wondering if they are worth re-trying with Venture forged.
Expand QuoteAnyone have experience riding 8.25 x 32.25" boards? Managed to uncover a batch of old Mystery decks (after they went colorized, Tom Asta was still a pro with them) on clearance and thinking about stocking up on a couple.
Last Habitat I rode at was 8.25 x 32.125 x 14.25, impossible with Indys, so-so with Thunders, wondering if they are worth re-trying with Venture forged.[close]
The old mystery with the Mystery decks, but I think the consensus was they were BBS from the re-release under Surplus Dist from 2016, if I recall correctly but that might be after the time you are referring to as I turned up Tom Asta decks with the same Zero wood sticker from 2011 including these three. (He was on Mystery around 2010 to 2014.) That was the earlier Zero woodshop, before things went their separate ways and Zero became a Dwindle board brand.
(https://i.ibb.co/8KmR061/Asta-Mystery-2011.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8KmR061)
There was also a curious find in the Asta P2 construction as well, orange camo graphic.
(https://i.ibb.co/Gkknb55/Asta-Mystery-camo-P2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gkknb55)
These are from 2014, from another place, which has the only 8.25 I have seen (all the rest have been 8 or 8.12):
(https://i.ibb.co/m8rBHp4/Asta-Mystery-2014.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m8rBHp4)
Managed to find a seller in China who has a load of Mystery Jimmy Carlin boards in 8.25. Thought about stocking on on those but the seller looks a little sketchy, they are selling fake Zero boards on the same listing which included to ZERO logo on the top ply and the black / red sticker over the mounting holes. Have my doubts on it's legitimacy, so I'll try 1 piece and see how that goes.
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Managed to find a seller in China who has a load of Mystery Jimmy Carlin boards in 8.25. Thought about stocking on on those but the seller looks a little sketchy, they are selling fake Zero boards on the same listing which included to ZERO logo on the top ply and the black / red sticker over the mounting holes. Have my doubts on it's legitimacy, so I'll try 1 piece and see how that goes.[close]
Given they were all from around 6 to 9 years ago, unless they were stored well or forgotten about, I would say the most plausible explanation is they are fake / copies.
I recall Buttfart said he has been fooled by the warning sticker on top before, which as you said would look like this:
(https://i.ibb.co/wyZZY0Z/Asta-Mystery-top.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wyZZY0Z)
has anyone skated a snack board recently? I know they're ps stix but I was curious if they have a more square shape ala a quasi
I have multiple boards on ice right now but I've been watching that snack video on repeat lately and was thinking I'd like to ride one.
Thanks!! Yeah looking for mellow, flat, heard pgi is. Thanks again!
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Managed to find a seller in China who has a load of Mystery Jimmy Carlin boards in 8.25. Thought about stocking on on those but the seller looks a little sketchy, they are selling fake Zero boards on the same listing which included to ZERO logo on the top ply and the black / red sticker over the mounting holes. Have my doubts on it's legitimacy, so I'll try 1 piece and see how that goes.[close]
Given they were all from around 6 to 9 years ago, unless they were stored well or forgotten about, I would say the most plausible explanation is they are fake / copies.
I recall Buttfart said he has been fooled by the warning sticker on top before, which as you said would look like this:
(https://i.ibb.co/wyZZY0Z/Asta-Mystery-top.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wyZZY0Z)[close]
Definitely look suspicious, the Jamie Thomas Zero one is a giveaway there were a bunch of sellers hucking these before the Girl / Baker fake decks took off, so quality is probably worse than those boards.
https://imgur.com/a/fGFfidT
Thought about stocking up on that graphic but no point having loads of chipboard decks around.
That aside, need a review of a Politic 8 and 8.25. Concave, length and WB. Thought I would treat myself with some quality boards instead of riding boards with the shittiest graphics.
Expand Quotehas anyone skated a snack board recently? I know they're ps stix but I was curious if they have a more square shape ala a quasi
I have multiple boards on ice right now but I've been watching that snack video on repeat lately and was thinking I'd like to ride one.[close]
They have at least two (maybe more?) shapes. One is a normal popsicle, one is more squared off like a quasi but a but steeper. They used to have an insanely square shape but I don't think they do it anymore.
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Thanks!! Yeah looking for mellow, flat, heard pgi is. Thanks again![close]
PGI is really flat, like some of the flattest decks I've had. There's a few different shapes I've seen but they all seem to use the same (or very similar) flat mold. It's also pretty stiff and has a nice little snap to it when it's fresh. One thing to be aware of is that they tend to be on the short side and have 14"wb - not sure what you normally skate but the 8.25s I've had were all around 31.6 and the 8.38 was maybe slightly longer but not much. In addition to the companies listed here's a few others to check out if you're interested in trying one -
Blood Wizard - my favorite, has a fairly large nose (around 7") and good graphic selection.
Skate Mental - the one I had was almost a twin nose or something, I think around 6.75 on both ends. Didn't really like it.
Natural Koncepts - haven't skated one but bonestalone is gnarly
Godless - haven't skated one but might be a good one if you're into darker themed graphics
They do sog out after a bit but so does everything. I think they're resin glued, they have that kind of dull thump sound when you pop. Overall they're probably the best non-dwindle Chinese decks I've skated though.
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Overall they're probably the best non-dwindle Chinese decks I've skated though.[close]
I really appreciate your consistent contributions to threads with equipment. Thanks.
My AWS has a little "regrowth" stamp between the back truck holes. Does that mean, it is dwindle made? By the way, I am in Europe. I absolutely love this deck. Perfect shape and length for me.it is dwindle.
Just picked up a shop deck with this embossed on the top ply, any idea what the woodshop might be? My first thought was Clutch but I think they put the shape letter before the number and I don't see a P shape listed on their site or instagram. Pennswood maybe?
Expand QuoteJust picked up a shop deck with this embossed on the top ply, any idea what the woodshop might be? My first thought was Clutch but I think they put the shape letter before the number and I don't see a P shape listed on their site or instagram. Pennswood maybe?[close]
Is it a bigger / wider board? I have a P8 which is the 8.5 version.
I believe people have said in the past this is Clutch / ASF, even if the letter and number are reversed.
P = tapered tail with round nose
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPqIGu5DhT9/
Anyone skated the K9 shape from clutch and happen to know the wheelbase? Overall thoughts skating it?
What shapes are most similar to a Pass Port 8.25? In reality they measure 32 long not the stated 31.7 and have a 14.25 WB, 6.75 tail, 7 nose.
Anyone skated the K9 shape from clutch and happen to know the wheelbase? Overall thoughts skating it?Of the boards I have the S7 8.375's are 14.25", the K7 8.25" is 14.375" and the P6 8.125" is 14.375". They all have similar shaped noses and tail lengths but the k has a slightly rounder tail and the p shape is like the s but is much more mellow and with a shorter nose/longer wheelbase. I was riding the S7 shape from 2016-2019 and wish I had known about the P shape earlier as I prefer more mellow kicks and concave these days. I think of it this way, clutch p shapes are like bbs mellow decks, the s shape is medium to medium/steep, and the k reminds me of antihero and real decks but maybe a touch more mellow.
Of the boards I have the S7 8.375's are 14.25", the K7 8.25" is 14.375" and the P6 8.125" is 14.375". They all have similar shaped noses and tail lengths but the k has a slightly rounder tail and the p shape is like the s but is much more mellow and with a shorter nose/longer wheelbase. I was riding the S7 shape from 2016-2019 and wish I had known about the P shape earlier as I prefer more mellow kicks and concave these days. I think of it this way, clutch p shapes are like bbs mellow decks, the s shape is medium to medium/steep, and the k reminds me of antihero and real decks but maybe a touch more mellow.Expand QuoteAnyone skated the K9 shape from clutch and happen to know the wheelbase? Overall thoughts skating it?[close]
Expand QuoteOf the boards I have the S7 8.375's are 14.25", the K7 8.25" is 14.375" and the P6 8.125" is 14.375". They all have similar shaped noses and tail lengths but the k has a slightly rounder tail and the p shape is like the s but is much more mellow and with a shorter nose/longer wheelbase. I was riding the S7 shape from 2016-2019 and wish I had known about the P shape earlier as I prefer more mellow kicks and concave these days. I think of it this way, clutch p shapes are like bbs mellow decks, the s shape is medium to medium/steep, and the k reminds me of antihero and real decks but maybe a touch more mellow.Expand QuoteAnyone skated the K9 shape from clutch and happen to know the wheelbase? Overall thoughts skating it?[close][close]
Thanks for the details. How is/how did you like the nose/tail shape on the K? they look like a good mid ground between square and tapered. I personally like the O shape which is very square, but I’m curious.
I just snapped the 3rd brand new board in a row this month - this time a Politic. Those are south central pressed and are generally beefier, and I'm not normally a board breaker to begin with... this is so strange. Last 2 before that were a Real and an Anti Hero. Both broke skating flatground. What really sticks out to me is how easily they all broke - I didn't land that hard on any of them. I'm usually the first guy to say it's my own damn fault for landing poorly, but something seems off. I think I must be getting fat. Lol.
Maybe everyone is skimping on glue during covid? ;D I'm desperately trying to shift the blame away from me sucking and possibly getting fat. I'm gonna have to go 3rd world set up steeze and nail them back together with 2x4's. Shit is getting expensive.
im just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.
they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?
or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish
im just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.
they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?
or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish
Politic does e-mold sometimes, it is from south central. Hit up Damon at Library Skate Shop.
Expand Quoteim just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.
they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?
or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish[close]
8.38 is 14.25wb, not sure about 8.5... Could be 14.5, I'll ask. South Central is still backed up on production. The stuff that just went up was originally supposed to come out in like September and be the "fall 20" release. Additionally, What was asked for isn't exactly what was delivered, but that's unfortunately not uncommon, especially right now with production problems plaguing seemingly everyone but clutch. I'm kind of annoyed by it because I was supposed to get a one-off square e-mold of the natas graphic in this run but it didn't show up. Im not surprised they missed or ignored it because it was legitimately the only square flat in the order, but still I was holding out hope that they'd come through. Been dying to try a square flat since the first day I skated one of the regular DOA squares. It is what it is though, I just got a new politic square and have a couple of DOA flats on the way so I've got plenty of SC wood to tide me over for the time being.
If anyone reading this is thinking about snagging a DOA definitely don't wait around, they're going to sell fast as fuck and there's a couple awesome graphics in this run. The new soft goods are killer too, DOA always makes cool shit.
Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.Expand Quote
Politic does e-mold sometimes, it is from south central. Hit up Damon at Library Skate Shop.[close]
Unfortunately Politic isn't doing flats anymore. The last one was the Pawns of Babylon. Damon said they don't sell (and the reason DOA sells their flats on the website is that shops apparently don't want them) so unfortunately despite the fact that we've got a lot of E mold lovers on here it's kind of a niche product. I say we start a grass roots "Make Politic Flat Again" campaign.
Interestingly, the E mold is apparently actually designed for big (like 9"+) vert and big tranny boards... It just so happened to be the flattest mold they had so DOA and politic started using it. I don't know if anyone else uses it but I've never seen anyone other than Politic and DOA.
Expand Quoteim just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.
they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?
or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish[close]
8.38 is 14.25wb, not sure about 8.5... Could be 14.5, I'll ask. South Central is still backed up on production. The stuff that just went up was originally supposed to come out in like September and be the "fall 20" release. Additionally, What was asked for isn't exactly what was delivered, but that's unfortunately not uncommon, especially right now with production problems plaguing seemingly everyone but clutch. I'm kind of annoyed by it because I was supposed to get a one-off square e-mold of the natas graphic in this run but it didn't show up. Im not surprised they missed or ignored it because it was legitimately the only square flat in the order, but still I was holding out hope that they'd come through. Been dying to try a square flat since the first day I skated one of the regular DOA squares. It is what it is though, I just got a new politic square and have a couple of DOA flats on the way so I've got plenty of SC wood to tide me over for the time being.
If anyone reading this is thinking about snagging a DOA definitely don't wait around, they're going to sell fast as fuck and there's a couple awesome graphics in this run. The new soft goods are killer too, DOA always makes cool shit.
Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.Expand Quote
Politic does e-mold sometimes, it is from south central. Hit up Damon at Library Skate Shop.[close]
Unfortunately Politic isn't doing flats anymore. The last one was the Pawns of Babylon. Damon said they don't sell (and the reason DOA sells their flats on the website is that shops apparently don't want them) so unfortunately despite the fact that we've got a lot of E mold lovers on here it's kind of a niche product. I say we start a grass roots "Make Politic Flat Again" campaign.
Interestingly, the E mold is apparently actually designed for big (like 9"+) vert and big tranny boards... It just so happened to be the flattest mold they had so DOA and politic started using it. I don't know if anyone else uses it but I've never seen anyone other than Politic and DOA.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteim just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.
they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?
or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish[close]
8.38 is 14.25wb, not sure about 8.5... Could be 14.5, I'll ask. South Central is still backed up on production. The stuff that just went up was originally supposed to come out in like September and be the "fall 20" release. Additionally, What was asked for isn't exactly what was delivered, but that's unfortunately not uncommon, especially right now with production problems plaguing seemingly everyone but clutch. I'm kind of annoyed by it because I was supposed to get a one-off square e-mold of the natas graphic in this run but it didn't show up. Im not surprised they missed or ignored it because it was legitimately the only square flat in the order, but still I was holding out hope that they'd come through. Been dying to try a square flat since the first day I skated one of the regular DOA squares. It is what it is though, I just got a new politic square and have a couple of DOA flats on the way so I've got plenty of SC wood to tide me over for the time being.
If anyone reading this is thinking about snagging a DOA definitely don't wait around, they're going to sell fast as fuck and there's a couple awesome graphics in this run. The new soft goods are killer too, DOA always makes cool shit.
Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.Expand Quote
Politic does e-mold sometimes, it is from south central. Hit up Damon at Library Skate Shop.[close]
Unfortunately Politic isn't doing flats anymore. The last one was the Pawns of Babylon. Damon said they don't sell (and the reason DOA sells their flats on the website is that shops apparently don't want them) so unfortunately despite the fact that we've got a lot of E mold lovers on here it's kind of a niche product. I say we start a grass roots "Make Politic Flat Again" campaign.
Interestingly, the E mold is apparently actually designed for big (like 9"+) vert and big tranny boards... It just so happened to be the flattest mold they had so DOA and politic started using it. I don't know if anyone else uses it but I've never seen anyone other than Politic and DOA.[close]
Thanks for the information about SC. I was going to get my second round of decks made made with them but it sounds like I should hold off until things stabilize a bit.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteim just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.
they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?
or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish[close]
8.38 is 14.25wb, not sure about 8.5... Could be 14.5, I'll ask. South Central is still backed up on production. The stuff that just went up was originally supposed to come out in like September and be the "fall 20" release. Additionally, What was asked for isn't exactly what was delivered, but that's unfortunately not uncommon, especially right now with production problems plaguing seemingly everyone but clutch. I'm kind of annoyed by it because I was supposed to get a one-off square e-mold of the natas graphic in this run but it didn't show up. Im not surprised they missed or ignored it because it was legitimately the only square flat in the order, but still I was holding out hope that they'd come through. Been dying to try a square flat since the first day I skated one of the regular DOA squares. It is what it is though, I just got a new politic square and have a couple of DOA flats on the way so I've got plenty of SC wood to tide me over for the time being.
If anyone reading this is thinking about snagging a DOA definitely don't wait around, they're going to sell fast as fuck and there's a couple awesome graphics in this run. The new soft goods are killer too, DOA always makes cool shit.
Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.Expand Quote
Politic does e-mold sometimes, it is from south central. Hit up Damon at Library Skate Shop.[close]
Unfortunately Politic isn't doing flats anymore. The last one was the Pawns of Babylon. Damon said they don't sell (and the reason DOA sells their flats on the website is that shops apparently don't want them) so unfortunately despite the fact that we've got a lot of E mold lovers on here it's kind of a niche product. I say we start a grass roots "Make Politic Flat Again" campaign.
Interestingly, the E mold is apparently actually designed for big (like 9"+) vert and big tranny boards... It just so happened to be the flattest mold they had so DOA and politic started using it. I don't know if anyone else uses it but I've never seen anyone other than Politic and DOA.[close]
Thanks for the information about SC. I was going to get my second round of decks made made with them but it sounds like I should hold off until things stabilize a bit.[close]
how easy/hard was it to deal with SC? i want to get decks from them, im up in canada so im not sure how easy it would be.
Has anyone gotten a zero board recently? I know for a time they were DSM pressed with the laser engraving and the paper insert on the side. Then they continued to press in China, still had the "Made in China, Designed in California" and production code engraving. Now I hear they are back to US woodshops. Can anyone whose ridden a Zero recently confirm this?
Expand QuoteHas anyone gotten a zero board recently? I know for a time they were DSM pressed with the laser engraving and the paper insert on the side. Then they continued to press in China, still had the "Made in China, Designed in California" and production code engraving. Now I hear they are back to US woodshops. Can anyone whose ridden a Zero recently confirm this?[close]
They haven't been DSM for quite some time now. I had one in the spring because they all seemed to be BBS again, but something seemed a bit different - I heard a rumor they may have been Clutch (and another rumor that Clutch has ex BBS dudes using similar molds/shapes). It felt just a little different, not quite as crispy as a standard BBS deck, and the concave also didn't flatten out within the truck holes. I haven't had the chance to hold a board in my hands that I can say 100% is Clutch, but I'd like to so I can remember the details and be able to identify them in the future. I feel like that's what my Zero deck may have been, though.
BBS is Mexico, and I think Clutch is now as well - anyone on here know any specifics about operations at Clutch?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteim just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.
they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?
or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish[close]
8.38 is 14.25wb, not sure about 8.5... Could be 14.5, I'll ask. South Central is still backed up on production. The stuff that just went up was originally supposed to come out in like September and be the "fall 20" release. Additionally, What was asked for isn't exactly what was delivered, but that's unfortunately not uncommon, especially right now with production problems plaguing seemingly everyone but clutch. I'm kind of annoyed by it because I was supposed to get a one-off square e-mold of the natas graphic in this run but it didn't show up. Im not surprised they missed or ignored it because it was legitimately the only square flat in the order, but still I was holding out hope that they'd come through. Been dying to try a square flat since the first day I skated one of the regular DOA squares. It is what it is though, I just got a new politic square and have a couple of DOA flats on the way so I've got plenty of SC wood to tide me over for the time being.
If anyone reading this is thinking about snagging a DOA definitely don't wait around, they're going to sell fast as fuck and there's a couple awesome graphics in this run. The new soft goods are killer too, DOA always makes cool shit.
Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.Expand Quote
Politic does e-mold sometimes, it is from south central. Hit up Damon at Library Skate Shop.[close]
Unfortunately Politic isn't doing flats anymore. The last one was the Pawns of Babylon. Damon said they don't sell (and the reason DOA sells their flats on the website is that shops apparently don't want them) so unfortunately despite the fact that we've got a lot of E mold lovers on here it's kind of a niche product. I say we start a grass roots "Make Politic Flat Again" campaign.
Interestingly, the E mold is apparently actually designed for big (like 9"+) vert and big tranny boards... It just so happened to be the flattest mold they had so DOA and politic started using it. I don't know if anyone else uses it but I've never seen anyone other than Politic and DOA.[close]
Thanks for the information about SC. I was going to get my second round of decks made made with them but it sounds like I should hold off until things stabilize a bit.[close]
how easy/hard was it to deal with SC? i want to get decks from them, im up in canada so im not sure how easy it would be.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteim just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.
they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?
or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish[close]
8.38 is 14.25wb, not sure about 8.5... Could be 14.5, I'll ask. South Central is still backed up on production. The stuff that just went up was originally supposed to come out in like September and be the "fall 20" release. Additionally, What was asked for isn't exactly what was delivered, but that's unfortunately not uncommon, especially right now with production problems plaguing seemingly everyone but clutch. I'm kind of annoyed by it because I was supposed to get a one-off square e-mold of the natas graphic in this run but it didn't show up. Im not surprised they missed or ignored it because it was legitimately the only square flat in the order, but still I was holding out hope that they'd come through. Been dying to try a square flat since the first day I skated one of the regular DOA squares. It is what it is though, I just got a new politic square and have a couple of DOA flats on the way so I've got plenty of SC wood to tide me over for the time being.
If anyone reading this is thinking about snagging a DOA definitely don't wait around, they're going to sell fast as fuck and there's a couple awesome graphics in this run. The new soft goods are killer too, DOA always makes cool shit.
Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.Expand Quote
Politic does e-mold sometimes, it is from south central. Hit up Damon at Library Skate Shop.[close]
Unfortunately Politic isn't doing flats anymore. The last one was the Pawns of Babylon. Damon said they don't sell (and the reason DOA sells their flats on the website is that shops apparently don't want them) so unfortunately despite the fact that we've got a lot of E mold lovers on here it's kind of a niche product. I say we start a grass roots "Make Politic Flat Again" campaign.
Interestingly, the E mold is apparently actually designed for big (like 9"+) vert and big tranny boards... It just so happened to be the flattest mold they had so DOA and politic started using it. I don't know if anyone else uses it but I've never seen anyone other than Politic and DOA.[close]
Thanks for the information about SC. I was going to get my second round of decks made made with them but it sounds like I should hold off until things stabilize a bit.[close]
how easy/hard was it to deal with SC? i want to get decks from them, im up in canada so im not sure how easy it would be.[close]
Also curious on people’s experience with them as I am also toying around with starting a brand. I emailed them 2 weeks ago, sent a follow up a week ago and even called yesterday haven’t heard from them. Is this unusual? Hoping it’s just because of the COVID delay situation.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone gotten a zero board recently? I know for a time they were DSM pressed with the laser engraving and the paper insert on the side. Then they continued to press in China, still had the "Made in China, Designed in California" and production code engraving. Now I hear they are back to US woodshops. Can anyone whose ridden a Zero recently confirm this?[close]
They haven't been DSM for quite some time now. I had one in the spring because they all seemed to be BBS again, but something seemed a bit different - I heard a rumor they may have been Clutch (and another rumor that Clutch has ex BBS dudes using similar molds/shapes). It felt just a little different, not quite as crispy as a standard BBS deck, and the concave also didn't flatten out within the truck holes. I haven't had the chance to hold a board in my hands that I can say 100% is Clutch, but I'd like to so I can remember the details and be able to identify them in the future. I feel like that's what my Zero deck may have been, though.
BBS is Mexico, and I think Clutch is now as well - anyone on here know any specifics about operations at Clutch?[close]
Thanks for the reply, I knew they moved back to US after being at DSM for a while. Saw a couple of these crop up on Taobao (China's Amazon), some sellers are selling old stock (Zero before Chris Cole left), some are selling Zero DSM boards, and some are selling ones with the laser etching but no DSM carboard insert:
Set up a Zero on Friday and did not like it for some reason. It felt oddly heavy and steeper than it looked :/ I normally like medium steep but something wasn't right, maybe it was the longer WB and steepness on 55mm Indys that threw me off. It was also hard to turn on it for some reason, like it wouldn't want to stay straight or be as responsive when I leaned heel or toe side. A shame because the shape felt and looked nice otherwise... c'est la vie...
Anyways, swapped it out for this Heroin I've had for a little bit. First Heroin so I'm excited! Way better just in the first 15 minutes on a session yesterday!! :D
Zero: 8.5, 32.25"(?), 14.5"
(https://i.ibb.co/vkhM1VX/20201204-194417.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/n6jjRMK/20201204-194501.jpg)
Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.
Always have a little chuckle at the fact that brands who use BBS or other good woodshops are never slow to confirm where their wood comes from, but the ones who don't want to say or even quote "from a well known woodshop" or "where a lot of the other pro boards are made" are usually more so the crap woodshops or from an unknown woodshop in China.
Buttfart or others have probably said the same thing before too.
Maybe everyone is skimping on glue during covid? ;D I'm desperately trying to shift the blame away from me sucking and possibly getting fat. I'm gonna have to go 3rd world set up steeze and nail them back together with 2x4's. Shit is getting expensive.
Expand QuoteMaybe everyone is skimping on glue during covid? ;D I'm desperately trying to shift the blame away from me sucking and possibly getting fat. I'm gonna have to go 3rd world set up steeze and nail them back together with 2x4's. Shit is getting expensive.[close]
I set up a politic only a couple days ago and I already have delamination down the entire left side of the board :(
maybe its the temperature?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMaybe everyone is skimping on glue during covid? ;D I'm desperately trying to shift the blame away from me sucking and possibly getting fat. I'm gonna have to go 3rd world set up steeze and nail them back together with 2x4's. Shit is getting expensive.[close]
I set up a politic only a couple days ago and I already have delamination down the entire left side of the board :(
maybe its the temperature?[close]
I don’t know a ton about production but I wonder if demand is forcing wood shops to put out decks without as much cure time as usual. If that’s the case, I’m curious what the effect on deck quality is.
That's the exact response I got from Folklore.
What can you tell me about this deck/mold? I absolutely love how flat it is and how smooth the concave transitions down on the ends. I wanted to buy another, but I just went on their site and it looks like it was completely redone and I can't find any deck with these exact dimensions anymore. Do they usually rotate their decks? Are the ones on there now also made by PS?
What I really want is this exact same deck, but in like 8.75-9.0. Do you think their 8.75,8.8 and 9.0 would have a similar feel/shape?
cheers
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMaybe everyone is skimping on glue during covid? ;D I'm desperately trying to shift the blame away from me sucking and possibly getting fat. I'm gonna have to go 3rd world set up steeze and nail them back together with 2x4's. Shit is getting expensive.[close]
I set up a politic only a couple days ago and I already have delamination down the entire left side of the board :(
maybe its the temperature?[close]
I don’t know a ton about production but I wonder if demand is forcing wood shops to put out decks without as much cure time as usual. If that’s the case, I’m curious what the effect on deck quality is.[close]
I got an ah cardiel, lovers series, and the board just felt ‘different’, lighter maybe? I couldn’t figure out what felt different than usual bbs, maybe something in the sealant....the deck skated great (just way too big, I’m woosey).
Cure times on boards sounds interesting. I’ve had more than a few ps boards that I skated, hated, and went back to and then loved. Most of that happened years ago. As I’m just pointlessly rambling here, I have a ps board from 6 years ago that is so thrashed, razored, been exposed to water several times, just banged out. Has great pop, excellent sound when hit. Bbs will always be in my mind as consistent, and ps will be there as the potential best. I haven’t had clutch/sc. Short boards are my thing, and most shops seem to make em for more normal sized folk.
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That's the exact response I got from Folklore.[close]
The folklore Jason lee/dune decks, or is there another company called that now? Those were Quincy (which is no longer around... They told me they were just moving to a new location and would be back in early 2020 but that didn't happen) and they didn't really try to hide it. They always tagged them in IG posts and stuff like that so I wonder why they wouldn't just tell you that.
sorta confused on length measurements. My Passport 8.25 is 31.8 on their site, but is 32 long from outside to outside. I was looking at recs with similar concave/shape and was told Baker would be close. Their 8.125 looks solid, but is 31.7 long. Are they like Passport where they are actually longer?
Expand Quotesorta confused on length measurements. My Passport 8.25 is 31.8 on their site, but is 32 long from outside to outside. I was looking at recs with similar concave/shape and was told Baker would be close. Their 8.125 looks solid, but is 31.7 long. Are they like Passport where they are actually longer?[close]
Going by specs from websites alone, they work out almost exactly the same, but as you have found with the boards you have, there might be slight differences, which is about 2mm or so difference. How much if any is that going to impact your decision?
You can always ask them to measure the boards, just to check sizes, or compare boards if they have a few in stock there as well.
Also some Baker show as 31.5 length and others as 31.8 or so, but I haven't seen enough of them to know which is correct or true size.
Black & White warning sticker at the front bolt holes is PS Stix?
Ah good to know, thanksExpand QuoteBlack & White warning sticker at the front bolt holes is PS Stix?[close]
Alien Workshop had black and white stickers too, but they are BBS.
PS Stix should always have the info with serial number on the deck (see about half way up the current page)
SN# PS10101010101010
What was the board brand? If you had any other info, so people can check for you.
Ah good to know, thanksExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBlack & White warning sticker at the front bolt holes is PS Stix?[close]
Alien Workshop had black and white stickers too, but they are BBS.
PS Stix should always have the info with serial number on the deck (see about half way up the current page)
SN# PS10101010101010
What was the board brand? If you had any other info, so people can check for you.[close]
My friend gave me a 917 he was done with and I was looking at a new one. The mega-list has both PS Stix and BBS for 917.
The shape has steep concave at the width which I'm really digging
Okay that makes senseExpand QuoteAh good to know, thanksExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBlack & White warning sticker at the front bolt holes is PS Stix?[close]
Alien Workshop had black and white stickers too, but they are BBS.
PS Stix should always have the info with serial number on the deck (see about half way up the current page)
SN# PS10101010101010
What was the board brand? If you had any other info, so people can check for you.[close]
My friend gave me a 917 he was done with and I was looking at a new one. The mega-list has both PS Stix and BBS for 917.
The shape has steep concave at the width which I'm really digging[close]
I could be wrong, but a lot of those steep concave with squared ends from companies like FA and Hockey were PS Stix but they now have almost the same shapes on BBS, or at least until PS Stix gets through their backlog of orders.
This link to pic is BBS, black white sticker, as is the next, red white sticker, both looking like regular shapes, not squared off though.
(https://i.ibb.co/hgsxmG1/917-deck01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hgsxmG1)
(https://i.ibb.co/bQHShX6/917-deck02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bQHShX6)
Hockey on BBS (squared off kicks):
(https://i.ibb.co/3S04qJb/Hockey-deck01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3S04qJb)
The Hockey decks are hard to find with the old PS Stix top which has a pic, the SN line and Made in Mexico engraved, but this is what a couple look like (note the different placement of the warning sticker too):
(https://i.ibb.co/jJ0FSQ5/Hockey-Skateboard-Deck-Review-Eyes-Without-A-Face-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jJ0FSQ5)
(https://i.ibb.co/0tjkFyj/Hockey-PS-Stix-Deck.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0tjkFyj)
Okay that makes sense
I meant to say that the concave at the rails is what I'm into - the board feels stronger/snappier than some other BBS/Generator shapes I've ridden.
Appreciate the knowledge
I'm riding this on one of my set-ups:Expand Quote
Okay that makes sense
I meant to say that the concave at the rails is what I'm into - the board feels stronger/snappier than some other BBS/Generator shapes I've ridden.
Appreciate the knowledge[close]
Reading back over it I don't know how I ended up on the square shape thing, but I think I was having another conversation with someone elsewhere who wanted the squared ends.
Regular decent shapes and normal concave in these boards, but I guess without having the ability to stand on any, it makes it harder to work out what you are after.
What size did you have or were looking at?
who presses nimbus? seen a couple of their shapes on SPoT and im intrigued
I'm riding this on one of my set-ups:Expand QuoteExpand Quote
Okay that makes sense
I meant to say that the concave at the rails is what I'm into - the board feels stronger/snappier than some other BBS/Generator shapes I've ridden.
Appreciate the knowledge[close]
Reading back over it I don't know how I ended up on the square shape thing, but I think I was having another conversation with someone elsewhere who wanted the squared ends.
Regular decent shapes and normal concave in these boards, but I guess without having the ability to stand on any, it makes it harder to work out what you are after.
What size did you have or were looking at?[close]
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dm1ikhi6x/image/upload/w_1534,c_limit/q_auto,f_auto/products/hfujta4ldu9oszrakwsu)
8.25, 14.5wb (listed as 14.75 but measures 14.5)
Was looking at the 8.18 Cyrus board with a 14.19(?)wb to put my ventures or aces on
Skully Cyrus board is that. Wb is listed as 14.8 lol but its closer to 14.2
Am I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal
Does anyone have info about Canadian woodshops and what brands they're working with? Canadian and otherwise. I'm familiar with Control (not bad, stiff enough, but too steep) and Olive (not a fan, sogged out in two weeks and not the best shapes). Lots of shops get their shop boards from both those two. I know there are at least a few more, and one for sure in quebec. Is Premium still a thing? Folk skateboards is out of interior BC, used to be Vancouver, but I'm pretty sure he does mostly custom stuff and smaller runs now.
Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere in this thread.
Expand QuoteDoes anyone have info about Canadian woodshops and what brands they're working with? Canadian and otherwise. I'm familiar with Control (not bad, stiff enough, but too steep) and Olive (not a fan, sogged out in two weeks and not the best shapes). Lots of shops get their shop boards from both those two. I know there are at least a few more, and one for sure in quebec. Is Premium still a thing? Folk skateboards is out of interior BC, used to be Vancouver, but I'm pretty sure he does mostly custom stuff and smaller runs now.
Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere in this thread.[close]
Woodchuck still makes some stuff I think. Maybe death?
Am I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal
Expand QuoteAm I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal[close]
I am skating a newer BBS Hockey (KRod greyhound graphic) and it has the fucking juice. I'm about to (kind of reluctantly) retire it due to razor tail but it has been the most durable board I've skated in a while, no pressure cracks even.
That being said, I stopped skating Quasi's a couple years ago because everyone one I had sogged out fast.
Expand QuoteAm I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal[close]
I've had 3 brand new boards break skating flatground in the last month, and I NEVER break boards. Two were DLX (BBS) and one was a Politic (South Central). Hell, the Politic broke landing a front board fakie on a tiny flatbar. Just a normal front board fakie, foot landed a tad more on the nose - snapped loud and clean. That has never happened to me before. There's not even much impact or weight coming down on the board off a tiny flatbar, on a trick I can do easily with control. Couldn't believe it.
Real deck was two days old, tail snapped off on a pop shove on flat. Not even a big pop shove. Very unexpected break.
Anti Hero's nose snapped on a backside flip, also very unexpected.
I might be 5 pounds heavier than usual right now, but honestly I can't explain why I broke 3 brand new decks so easily, it sucks. Even paying wholesale that's $200 down the drain real fast. Now I'm all paranoid to try anything with any drop to it at all if I'm breaking boards skating flat.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAm I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal[close]
I am skating a newer BBS Hockey (KRod greyhound graphic) and it has the fucking juice. I'm about to (kind of reluctantly) retire it due to razor tail but it has been the most durable board I've skated in a while, no pressure cracks even.
That being said, I stopped skating Quasi's a couple years ago because everyone one I had sogged out fast.[close]
Guess it must just be me then haha. I had the Nik stain one for about a week and before that the black one with all the text down the middle. Both felt so good at first but snapped so quickly. I’m in Europe so maybe we’re getting the lesser quality boards?? Who knows
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAm I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal[close]
I am skating a newer BBS Hockey (KRod greyhound graphic) and it has the fucking juice. I'm about to (kind of reluctantly) retire it due to razor tail but it has been the most durable board I've skated in a while, no pressure cracks even.
That being said, I stopped skating Quasi's a couple years ago because everyone one I had sogged out fast.[close]
Guess it must just be me then haha. I had the Nik stain one for about a week and before that the black one with all the text down the middle. Both felt so good at first but snapped so quickly. I’m in Europe so maybe we’re getting the lesser quality boards?? Who knows[close]
Just skated a FA bought at a german shop for more than 2 months, including shitty weather, same quality as ever...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAm I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal[close]
I am skating a newer BBS Hockey (KRod greyhound graphic) and it has the fucking juice. I'm about to (kind of reluctantly) retire it due to razor tail but it has been the most durable board I've skated in a while, no pressure cracks even.
That being said, I stopped skating Quasi's a couple years ago because everyone one I had sogged out fast.[close]
Guess it must just be me then haha. I had the Nik stain one for about a week and before that the black one with all the text down the middle. Both felt so good at first but snapped so quickly. I’m in Europe so maybe we’re getting the lesser quality boards?? Who knows[close]
Just skated a FA bought at a german shop for more than 2 months, including shitty weather, same quality as ever...[close]
I do wonder if they are all the same wood then, or if covid issues has allowed some distributors to use licenced graphics on whatever wood they get their hands on. It may sound weird, but it has definitely happened in some places I know and have seen.
Anyone recall what was on top of the board, or if it felt the same as other / normal BBS wood. I saw an interesting post from OCD which is an Aussie shop which had the top of an FA board, very similar to the PS Stix top but was clearly not (no serial number), as they are on BBS now (only the single dot in the wood). Check through the frames, about the third one I think:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CI7qWC3Fc4_/
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAm I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal[close]
I am skating a newer BBS Hockey (KRod greyhound graphic) and it has the fucking juice. I'm about to (kind of reluctantly) retire it due to razor tail but it has been the most durable board I've skated in a while, no pressure cracks even.
That being said, I stopped skating Quasi's a couple years ago because everyone one I had sogged out fast.[close]
Guess it must just be me then haha. I had the Nik stain one for about a week and before that the black one with all the text down the middle. Both felt so good at first but snapped so quickly. I’m in Europe so maybe we’re getting the lesser quality boards?? Who knows[close]
Just skated a FA bought at a german shop for more than 2 months, including shitty weather, same quality as ever...[close]
I do wonder if they are all the same wood then, or if covid issues has allowed some distributors to use licenced graphics on whatever wood they get their hands on. It may sound weird, but it has definitely happened in some places I know and have seen.
Anyone recall what was on top of the board, or if it felt the same as other / normal BBS wood. I saw an interesting post from OCD which is an Aussie shop which had the top of an FA board, very similar to the PS Stix top but was clearly not (no serial number), as they are on BBS now (only the single dot in the wood). Check through the frames, about the third one I think:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CI7qWC3Fc4_/
Expand QuoteAm I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal[close]
I've had 3 brand new boards break skating flatground in the last month, and I NEVER break boards. Two were DLX (BBS) and one was a Politic (South Central). Hell, the Politic broke landing a front board fakie on a tiny flatbar. Just a normal front board fakie, foot landed a tad more on the nose - snapped loud and clean. That has never happened to me before. There's not even much impact or weight coming down on the board off a tiny flatbar, on a trick I can do easily with control. Couldn't believe it.
Real deck was two days old, tail snapped off on a pop shove on flat. Not even a big pop shove. Very unexpected break.
Anti Hero's nose snapped on a backside flip, also very unexpected.
I might be 5 pounds heavier than usual right now, but honestly I can't explain why I broke 3 brand new decks so easily, it sucks. Even paying wholesale that's $200 down the drain real fast. Now I'm all paranoid to try anything with any drop to it at all if I'm breaking boards skating flat.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAm I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal[close]
I've had 3 brand new boards break skating flatground in the last month, and I NEVER break boards. Two were DLX (BBS) and one was a Politic (South Central). Hell, the Politic broke landing a front board fakie on a tiny flatbar. Just a normal front board fakie, foot landed a tad more on the nose - snapped loud and clean. That has never happened to me before. There's not even much impact or weight coming down on the board off a tiny flatbar, on a trick I can do easily with control. Couldn't believe it.
Real deck was two days old, tail snapped off on a pop shove on flat. Not even a big pop shove. Very unexpected break.
Anti Hero's nose snapped on a backside flip, also very unexpected.
I might be 5 pounds heavier than usual right now, but honestly I can't explain why I broke 3 brand new decks so easily, it sucks. Even paying wholesale that's $200 down the drain real fast. Now I'm all paranoid to try anything with any drop to it at all if I'm breaking boards skating flat.[close]
Snapped 2 BBS Hockey decks today. 8.18 ricks deck snapped doing a lipslide on a flatbar, 1 week old deck. Next, the 8.25 No Face snapped after only 1 hour of skating. On a backside 180 off a 1 foot ledge. Other than that the shape is badass and they feel great
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAm I getting shitter or has anyone else noticed a difference in their boards. I’ve had 2 hockey (non ps) snap within 5-10 skates and now a quasi (ps) that feels like a wet blanket, they used to feel so poppy at first.
Do you think the wood shops are cutting down curing times to catch up with demand, making the boards worse?
It’s probably just me getting worse but thought I’d see if anyone else has noticed the same deal[close]
I've had 3 brand new boards break skating flatground in the last month, and I NEVER break boards. Two were DLX (BBS) and one was a Politic (South Central). Hell, the Politic broke landing a front board fakie on a tiny flatbar. Just a normal front board fakie, foot landed a tad more on the nose - snapped loud and clean. That has never happened to me before. There's not even much impact or weight coming down on the board off a tiny flatbar, on a trick I can do easily with control. Couldn't believe it.
Real deck was two days old, tail snapped off on a pop shove on flat. Not even a big pop shove. Very unexpected break.
Anti Hero's nose snapped on a backside flip, also very unexpected.
I might be 5 pounds heavier than usual right now, but honestly I can't explain why I broke 3 brand new decks so easily, it sucks. Even paying wholesale that's $200 down the drain real fast. Now I'm all paranoid to try anything with any drop to it at all if I'm breaking boards skating flat.[close]
Snapped 2 BBS Hockey decks today. 8.18 ricks deck snapped doing a lipslide on a flatbar, 1 week old deck. Next, the 8.25 No Face snapped after only 1 hour of skating. On a backside 180 off a 1 foot ledge. Other than that the shape is badass and they feel great[close]
Something has to be up.
I've worked for a board manufacturer, and I'm not gonna pretend like I'm an expert on curing times for different pressing methods and glues vs epoxies, but the only thing I can think of is somewhere in the process something is being rushed. I was not aware that BBS used a method with long cure times, if that's to blame. Poor quality control in the glue spreading machine? I really have no idea, but as I mentioned, I almost never break boards, so 3 new ones in a row on low impact skating is really odd.
Linked to the shop. Some of those FA boards are 180AUD. Thats like 140US. Wild. You wouldn’t want that surprise snapping on you.
Make that 3 brand new DLX decks snapped skating flat in the last month - just snapped the nose clean off an Anti Hero Lovers 2 8.4 Grant Taylor. What the fuck is going on?! Seriously. I feel like I'm going crazy. How am I killing fresh decks so easily skating flat all of a sudden? Makes no sense. All I know is, with the Politic I also broke right away, that's $260 on decks in the last month. Can't imagine if I didn't get cost on boards and it was actually $410.
Isn't there a DLXSF person on here? I've heard they're pretty good about trying to keep people happy. ;D
Make that 3 brand new DLX decks snapped skating flat in the last month - just snapped the nose clean off an Anti Hero Lovers 2 8.4 Grant Taylor. What the fuck is going on?! Seriously. I feel like I'm going crazy. How am I killing fresh decks so easily skating flat all of a sudden? Makes no sense. All I know is, with the Politic I also broke right away, that's $260 on decks in the last month. Can't imagine if I didn't get cost on boards and it was actually $410.
Isn't there a DLXSF person on here? I've heard they're pretty good about trying to keep people happy. ;D
I do wonder if they are all the same wood then, or if covid issues has allowed some distributors to use licenced graphics on whatever wood they get their hands on. It may sound weird, but it has definitely happened in some places I know and have seen.
Anyone recall what was on top of the board, or if it felt the same as other / normal BBS wood. I saw an interesting post from OCD which is an Aussie shop which had the top of an FA board, very similar to the PS Stix top but was clearly not (no serial number), as they are on BBS now (only the single dot in the wood). Check through the frames, about the third one I think:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CI7qWC3Fc4_/
Does anyone have info about Canadian woodshops and what brands they're working with? Canadian and otherwise. I'm familiar with Control (not bad, stiff enough, but too steep) and Olive (not a fan, sogged out in two weeks and not the best shapes). Lots of shops get their shop boards from both those two. I know there are at least a few more, and one for sure in quebec. Is Premium still a thing? Folk skateboards is out of interior BC, used to be Vancouver, but I'm pretty sure he does mostly custom stuff and smaller runs now.
Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere in this thread.
Expand QuoteDoes anyone have info about Canadian woodshops and what brands they're working with? Canadian and otherwise. I'm familiar with Control (not bad, stiff enough, but too steep) and Olive (not a fan, sogged out in two weeks and not the best shapes). Lots of shops get their shop boards from both those two. I know there are at least a few more, and one for sure in quebec. Is Premium still a thing? Folk skateboards is out of interior BC, used to be Vancouver, but I'm pretty sure he does mostly custom stuff and smaller runs now.
Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere in this thread.[close]
Hectic - A new one based outta quebec. From what Ive heard, they import Chinese boards and screen them here. Frosted and allot of Empire shop boards are from here.
Yeah I didn't mind control boards that much, I found them only seeming steep because the concaves were mellow and the kicks were super flat and abrupt versus curved or transitioned like BBS does.....
They have a few different layups too....the ones I'm most familiar with were the studio boards which I thought were decent...
New!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJHtSfNF-eI/?igshid=1p3caqp0ebqdt (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJHtSfNF-eI/?igshid=1p3caqp0ebqdt)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJHrv8tBVHD/?igshid=eermh0y1kuyo (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJHrv8tBVHD/?igshid=eermh0y1kuyo)
Pressed, shaped, and screen printed in Boston, MA by Robbie Gangemi
Width: 8.25"
Length: 31.5"
Wheelbase: 14"
Nose: 6-7/8"
Tail: 6-3/4"
Anyone know who makes a shape that's mellow, full like a quasi or FA, bbs, and a short wheel base? I like quasis proto shape but would prefer something that doesn't taper and is bbs.
Anyone know who makes a shape that's mellow, full like a quasi or FA, bbs, and a short wheel base? I like quasis proto shape but would prefer something that doesn't taper and is bbs.
Expand QuoteAnyone know who makes a shape that's mellow, full like a quasi or FA, bbs, and a short wheel base? I like quasis proto shape but would prefer something that doesn't taper and is bbs.[close]
Real Full SE shapes maybe? Might be hit or miss finding a mellow one.
Ive skated 3 FA/hockey decks and they all have been on the steeper side, I ment that quasi protos (and most ps 8.25s iirc) taper from 8.25 at the front truck holes down to 8 at the back holes, the nose and tail are perfect tho, just wished they stayed 8.25 throught the length of the deck. If FAs were just a little bit more mellow that would be the ideal deck for me.
Alltimers still/currently through BBS, as far as we know?
Expand QuoteAlltimers still/currently through BBS, as far as we know?[close]
The last one I stood on recently definitely felt like it, but I am not in the US.
Random color veneer: What are the chances of getting a hot pink bottom ply? I'd just rather not.My experience has been that you have an 80% chance of getting your least favourite veneer color.
My experience has been that you have an 80% chance of getting your least favourite veneer color.Expand QuoteRandom color veneer: What are the chances of getting a hot pink bottom ply? I'd just rather not.[close]
Expand QuoteMy experience has been that you have an 80% chance of getting your least favourite veneer color.Expand QuoteRandom color veneer: What are the chances of getting a hot pink bottom ply? I'd just rather not.[close][close]
Totally! If they are a smaller shop, (or if you are lucky enough) message or call them and ask what colours they have in that board, but I know some places would be a bit busy or just not possible for someone to go through the boards checking what they have.
So in my madness I’ve realized that overall I seem to like my current FA and Passport, which are both BBS. The Quasi I have is ok, but the tail feels weird and overall I’m not as stoked on it. I compared all 3 decks and noticed the FA and Passport nose are almost an inch higher when the tail hits the ground. I think this matters much more than wheelbase for me and deck length is next.
So from what I read, BBS tends to have steeper nose and tails? Or is it unique to specific BBS brands?
Expand QuoteSo in my madness I’ve realized that overall I seem to like my current FA and Passport, which are both BBS. The Quasi I have is ok, but the tail feels weird and overall I’m not as stoked on it. I compared all 3 decks and noticed the FA and Passport nose are almost an inch higher when the tail hits the ground. I think this matters much more than wheelbase for me and deck length is next.
So from what I read, BBS tends to have steeper nose and tails? Or is it unique to specific BBS brands?[close]
Noticed that FA/Hockey have much steeper kicks than the couple of AH eagles I have laying around. I always thought I hated steep boards but have been proven otherwise.
Someone watched one too many Ben Degros videos.....
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMy experience has been that you have an 80% chance of getting your least favourite veneer color.Expand QuoteRandom color veneer: What are the chances of getting a hot pink bottom ply? I'd just rather not.[close][close]
Totally! If they are a smaller shop, (or if you are lucky enough) message or call them and ask what colours they have in that board, but I know some places would be a bit busy or just not possible for someone to go through the boards checking what they have.[close]
Don't do this.
Expand QuoteSomeone watched one too many Ben Degros videos.....[close]
Yoooooo. Accurate.
I think there is something to what Degros says, but I’ve watched a fair amount of the videos, and I haven’t unlocked anything.
I’m glad he does what he do tho.
The annoying part is having some shit dialed on one setup, others on another, never finding the do all one. On my Passport/Indy pop is great, nollie stuff I good but manual stuff isn’t great and stability isn’t wonderful. FA/Venture it’s the opposite. Both decks are on their last legs so I’m trying to end up with one setup and I’ve had lots of scenarios where I set new setup up and just hate it.
Just checking in to report brand new board number 5 has bitten the dust a mere 40 minutes after setting it up. Broke the nose on a flatground 360 flip that I actually landed with my weight over the back, not the front, so it's extra weird. This one was Clutch manufactured.
I'm not putting a new board on again until at least March, fuck this nonsense. It's gotta be the cold. Used stack is my go-to until it's warm again.
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Don't do this.[close]
Expand QuoteJust checking in to report brand new board number 5 has bitten the dust a mere 40 minutes after setting it up. Broke the nose on a flatground 360 flip that I actually landed with my weight over the back, not the front, so it's extra weird. This one was Clutch manufactured.
I'm not putting a new board on again until at least March, fuck this nonsense. It's gotta be the cold. Used stack is my go-to until it's warm again.[close]
Hi there.
I broke arround 8 boards in a row this season.
All on tail, directly on inner bolts, doing flatground Kick, Heel and 360 Flips.
It made me go nuts to the point i stoped skating for a while. The Boards we're made by BBS.
3 Real, 1 Deathwish, 2 Krooked and 2 Magenta.
The last one was a fresh Magenta 8.125. It took me 2 Sessions to break it.
I'm 76 kg btw.
I started to not thighten the inner bolts that much. I let them stand out a bit. After that i had 4 boards and they are still intact. Skated all of them till the "end"
But on Nr.5, a Real 8.06, i broke the nose on an Varial Heel on flat. And Nr.6, a Polar 8.125, i broke the nose on a Nollie BS shuvit. So i started to do the same with the inner bolts at the nose.
Riding a Real Donnelly 8.25 at the moment. 6 winter sessions in so far, looks good.
Maybe i stomp my Boards to much..
Sry for bad english, i'm German..
Expand QuoteThe annoying part is having some shit dialed on one setup, others on another, never finding the do all one. On my Passport/Indy pop is great, nollie stuff I good but manual stuff isn’t great and stability isn’t wonderful. FA/Venture it’s the opposite. Both decks are on their last legs so I’m trying to end up with one setup and I’ve had lots of scenarios where I set new setup up and just hate it.[close]
If you're gonna experiment with different product that's just part of the deal. It's why I do whatever I can to always skate the exact same shape - you don't have to get used to a new board or figure things out. I've had trouble finding my usual shape during covid and it's 100% had an effect on my skating. Flatground is all over the place, and it's part of why I'm breaking so many boards because I'm not used to the shapes and landing awkward.
Ive skated 3 FA/hockey decks and they all have been on the steeper side, I ment that quasi protos (and most ps 8.25s iirc) taper from 8.25 at the front truck holes down to 8 at the back holes, the nose and tail are perfect tho, just wished they stayed 8.25 throught the length of the deck. If FAs were just a little bit more mellow that would be the ideal deck for me.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMy experience has been that you have an 80% chance of getting your least favourite veneer color.Expand QuoteRandom color veneer: What are the chances of getting a hot pink bottom ply? I'd just rather not.[close][close]
Totally! If they are a smaller shop, (or if you are lucky enough) message or call them and ask what colours they have in that board, but I know some places would be a bit busy or just not possible for someone to go through the boards checking what they have.[close]
Don't do this.
I ride the Indi forged baseplates . Do think thats a factor ?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust checking in to report brand new board number 5 has bitten the dust a mere 40 minutes after setting it up. Broke the nose on a flatground 360 flip that I actually landed with my weight over the back, not the front, so it's extra weird. This one was Clutch manufactured.
I'm not putting a new board on again until at least March, fuck this nonsense. It's gotta be the cold. Used stack is my go-to until it's warm again.[close]
Hi there.
I broke arround 8 boards in a row this season.
All on tail, directly on inner bolts, doing flatground Kick, Heel and 360 Flips.
It made me go nuts to the point i stoped skating for a while. The Boards we're made by BBS.
3 Real, 1 Deathwish, 2 Krooked and 2 Magenta.
The last one was a fresh Magenta 8.125. It took me 2 Sessions to break it.
I'm 76 kg btw.
I started to not thighten the inner bolts that much. I let them stand out a bit. After that i had 4 boards and they are still intact. Skated all of them till the "end"
But on Nr.5, a Real 8.06, i broke the nose on an Varial Heel on flat. And Nr.6, a Polar 8.125, i broke the nose on a Nollie BS shuvit. So i started to do the same with the inner bolts at the nose.
Riding a Real Donnelly 8.25 at the moment. 6 winter sessions in so far, looks good.
Maybe i stomp my Boards to much..
Sry for bad english, i'm German..[close]
That is a good solution.
Soft thin risers also helped with reducing board breakage a lot, but most people don't want to use them.
One other factor in breaking boards over the bolts (nose or tail) is the pressure the trucks put on the deck right at the flex point, especially when the trucks have a sharp edge which cuts into the wood and creates a weakness in the board. I had helped with other's setups who always break boards over the bolts by grinding down the edge, which worked really well for a couple of guys I skate with, so made a post about it. It may or may not help with that too.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5X3o9qFYuI/
I'm gonna call a shop and ask if they'll stand on the deck for me and describe the feel to me over the phone....
I ride the Indi forged baseplates . Do think thats a factor ?
Thanks for the Info, gonna try that too.
I can't remeber breaking Boards that much with my Thunders on a standart baseblate so.. could ne an solution .
Expand QuoteI'm gonna call a shop and ask if they'll stand on the deck for me and describe the feel to me over the phone....[close]
I know you're joking but to be honest most of the shop owners I know would probably try to do that if you asked them to. Even so, its not like asking the stain color is some in depth question where they have to go pull the board off the wall and measure it with calipers and then calculate the center of mass or something. Its literally just moving your eyes to the wall and saying what you see.
Yeah, i checked it already. And you are right. They all broke on the same exact spot. Directly on that edge of the plate. Pretty deep imprint also. I already worked on them with a file. If this works you are the man !Expand Quote
I ride the Indi forged baseplates . Do think thats a factor ?
Thanks for the Info, gonna try that too.
I can't remeber breaking Boards that much with my Thunders on a standart baseblate so.. could ne an solution .[close]
One way to see fairly easily, if you can always check when you take the trucks off the board, see if there are pressure marks or cuts in the board where the trucks are, or how deep the truck imprint is on the wood. That is assuming you have broken the board in one place and not focused it five different ways, so at least you can check the truck imprint where the board broke and the other end too.
I know I already said but something like super thin rubber squares under the trucks definitely help, eg a bike tube.
Another thing you could do is tighten the bolts most of the way, ride it a bit, then gradually tighten. I do wonder if you’re tightening them too much. I used to get pressure cracks with Thunders doing that.Could be the case, gonna try this on the next Board too.
Expand QuoteI'm gonna call a shop and ask if they'll stand on the deck for me and describe the feel to me over the phone....[close]
I know you're joking but to be honest most of the shop owners I know would probably try to do that if you asked them to. Even so, its not like asking the stain color is some in depth question where they have to go pull the board off the wall and measure it with calipers and then calculate the center of mass or something. Its literally just moving your eyes to the wall and saying what you see.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust checking in to report brand new board number 5 has bitten the dust a mere 40 minutes after setting it up. Broke the nose on a flatground 360 flip that I actually landed with my weight over the back, not the front, so it's extra weird. This one was Clutch manufactured.
I'm not putting a new board on again until at least March, fuck this nonsense. It's gotta be the cold. Used stack is my go-to until it's warm again.[close]
Hi there.
I broke arround 8 boards in a row this season.
All on tail, directly on inner bolts, doing flatground Kick, Heel and 360 Flips.
It made me go nuts to the point i stoped skating for a while. The Boards we're made by BBS.
3 Real, 1 Deathwish, 2 Krooked and 2 Magenta.
The last one was a fresh Magenta 8.125. It took me 2 Sessions to break it.
I'm 76 kg btw.
I started to not thighten the inner bolts that much. I let them stand out a bit. After that i had 4 boards and they are still intact. Skated all of them till the "end"
But on Nr.5, a Real 8.06, i broke the nose on an Varial Heel on flat. And Nr.6, a Polar 8.125, i broke the nose on a Nollie BS shuvit. So i started to do the same with the inner bolts at the nose.
Riding a Real Donnelly 8.25 at the moment. 6 winter sessions in so far, looks good.
Maybe i stomp my Boards to much..
Sry for bad english, i'm German..[close]
That is a good solution.
Soft thin risers also helped with reducing board breakage a lot, but most people don't want to use them.
One other factor in breaking boards over the bolts (nose or tail) is the pressure the trucks put on the deck right at the flex point, especially when the trucks have a sharp edge which cuts into the wood and creates a weakness in the board. I had helped with other's setups who always break boards over the bolts by grinding down the edge, which worked really well for a couple of guys I skate with, so made a post about it. It may or may not help with that too.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5X3o9qFYuI/
Could be the case, gonna try this on the next Board too.Expand QuoteAnother thing you could do is tighten the bolts most of the way, ride it a bit, then gradually tighten. I do wonder if you’re tightening them too much. I used to get pressure cracks with Thunders doing that.[close]
Thanks Mate !
It's slap...we come here to be offended....
It's slap...we come here to be offended....
I cut out the holes with my cutterknife so no twisting at all ;)Expand QuoteCould be the case, gonna try this on the next Board too.Expand QuoteAnother thing you could do is tighten the bolts most of the way, ride it a bit, then gradually tighten. I do wonder if you’re tightening them too much. I used to get pressure cracks with Thunders doing that.[close]
Thanks Mate ![close]
This helps also with the horrific grip twist....
‘Nother way to avoid it is to turn the nut & keep the screw/Allen driver stationary. All the twisting happens at the other end of the bolt, by the base plate, leaving the bolt head with nothing more to do than sink in, and as a result, your grip ends up twist free. Added bonus is not having to bust out blade to mount your trucks.I cut out the holes with my cutterknife so no twisting at all ;)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCould be the case, gonna try this on the next Board too.Expand QuoteAnother thing you could do is tighten the bolts most of the way, ride it a bit, then gradually tighten. I do wonder if you’re tightening them too much. I used to get pressure cracks with Thunders doing that.[close]
Thanks Mate ![close]
This helps also with the horrific grip twist....[close]
Expand QuoteIt's slap...we come here to be offended....[close]
Is it about a 50/50 mix of info and help / shit talking and fun? I know it was more like 10/90 when I was on the first time oh so many years ago now, but maybe everyone has chilled and the others got banned?
Grip tip: I keep the allen key or phillips head still and only tighten from the truck / nut side and you will never have grip twist. I also use the phillips head screwdriver like a router on the deck after I gripped it, doing each deck bolt hole so it clears out the mess first, then put the deck bolts in and trucks on. I also use the skate tool to press down the grip around each deck bolt after I put them in, so it always sits well and never has issues with grip bunching up or pulling.
Not really the right info for the woodshop thread, but I do talk too much!
The annoying part is having some shit dialed on one setup, others on another, never finding the do all one. On my Passport/Indy pop is great, nollie stuff I good but manual stuff isn’t great and stability isn’t wonderful. FA/Venture it’s the opposite. Both decks are on their last legs so I’m trying to end up with one setup and I’ve had lots of scenarios where I set new setup up and just hate it.What size board do you ride?
FA: 8.25x31.85, 14.125 WB, Venture 5.6 cast. Only bad aspect is lack of switch pop (steep nose, small and mellow tail feels weird popping off the nose).
Pass~Port: 8.25x31.9, 14.25 WB, Indy Forged Hollow 149 (manuals are worse, best pop, don't really like 149s, flip tricks less consistent).
Quasi 8.25x32, 14.25 WB, Indy Forged Hollow 139 (never felt quite right on this deck, sorta unbalanced and unstable)
Polar 8.38x32, 14.38 WB, Thunder Team plates, Thunder 148 Ti Hangers (great, but less pop overall)
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Have a shop deck with this sticker and a small V imprinted next to it. Anyone know which woodshop this is? Thanks
good call - V4Expand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/qFyCgLL/IMG-2535.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qFyCgLL)
Have a shop deck with this sticker and a small V imprinted next to it. Anyone know which woodshop this is? Thanks[close]
Peel the sticker off and see if anything is stamped under it. Likely a Clutch V shape.
good call - V4Expand QuoteExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/qFyCgLL/IMG-2535.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qFyCgLL)
Have a shop deck with this sticker and a small V imprinted next to it. Anyone know which woodshop this is? Thanks[close]
Peel the sticker off and see if anything is stamped under it. Likely a Clutch V shape.[close]
https://www.clutchdistribution.com/popsicle.html
Anyone got any info on shapes/woodshop of Illegal Civ boards? What about those new Sci-Fi Fantasy boards as well?
The last board I broke in my string of brand new broken decks was a Clutch and I knew that one was gonna break because it was sooooo flexy. Maybe just a one off but the thing didn't have a chance. Also not a fan of the lack of concave within the kicks. That's a deal breaker for me with boards and it's why I pretty much only skate BBS and sometimes South Central. When you're used to spoon nose/tail, boards without it feel cheap. I say cheap because no concave within the kicks reminds me of how department store boards felt before I got my first pro board. When it's that flat it actually feels like convex.
Just hit up sci fi on insta and they confirmed it’s generator wood. Really wish it was ps stix but grabbed an 8.5 anywayExpand QuoteAnyone got any info on shapes/woodshop of Illegal Civ boards? What about those new Sci-Fi Fantasy boards as well?[close]
Curious about the Sci-Fi ones too. I saw some pics and it looked like BBS but they were ebay pics so not the best quality. I've heard that BBS is only running big (like 5 digit # of boards big) orders now, but stuff has been coming out from smaller companies like ToPX so I'm wondering if they're honoring orders that were placed before the pandemic delays made everything crazy. I know there was a partial run of some of the topx decks that came out months ago, so maybe the stuff coming out now is just the rest of what they were originally supposed to get. I suppose Jerry is probably pretty well connected so the new rules might not necessarily apply to him the way they would to some random company trying to get boards made.
Dunno much about IC and frankly don't really care. I think they might have been BBS at one point but no clue now.Expand Quote
The last board I broke in my string of brand new broken decks was a Clutch and I knew that one was gonna break because it was sooooo flexy. Maybe just a one off but the thing didn't have a chance. Also not a fan of the lack of concave within the kicks. That's a deal breaker for me with boards and it's why I pretty much only skate BBS and sometimes South Central. When you're used to spoon nose/tail, boards without it feel cheap. I say cheap because no concave within the kicks reminds me of how department store boards felt before I got my first pro board. When it's that flat it actually feels like convex.[close]
I've had really good experiences with clutch for the most part but they're not really what I'd call stiff. They definitely have a little give to them, much like PS stix. The shapes really seem to matter for me with clutch decks, I've had like 3 or 4 of the O shape and they were all good. Snappy and light, held their pop pretty well, and the O7 (8.25) and O8 (8.375) dimensions and tail are really in my wheelhouse. I'm not a board breaker so that was never an issue for me, but I did have one of the tapered popsicles (I think K or P shape, cant remember off the top of my head) with a 14.5wb that felt like ass to me. Then again, so do most 14.5wb 8.25 decks.
I actually really don't care for the spoony kicks that BBS (and clutch on some of their shapes) do. It always messes up my timing and I end up ghost popping a lot until I get used to it and even then I always feel like I'm working against my board instead of with it. I also don't love how steep the BBS and especially SC standard tails are, but even with mellower kicks like Pennswood's silver spoon mold I really struggle to find my footing (literally and figuratively). I think one of the biggest reasons why I like PS shapes so much is that the kicks tend to be mellower and have more subtle, organic feeling transitions. I really like how effortless and snappy the pop feel is on them, although I'm sure if I had stronger or younger legs I'd get better pop from a steeper tail and stiffer deck. I don't know if it's because I grew up skating flatter boards or just that they're easier on my fat old ass, but every time I buy a hockey or any deluxe shape other than the 8.28 x 31.7 I end up putting it away after a few days because it becomes such a chore to skate.
Has anyone skated jart/hlc decks recently?Is Sour still HLC/Hart?
I had one 12 years ago, all the kids bought jart, because there wasn't anything else and every sing one, except mine delaminated.
Anyone know what wood shops are based in Canada?
Control
Olive
Not sure if woodchuck is US Canada or both
Any others?
Expand QuoteAnyone know what wood shops are based in Canada?
Control
Olive
Not sure if woodchuck is US Canada or both
Any others?[close]
I think Woodchuck is in canada but distributed through a US company (pure). Max Dufour (old vert guy, was in some of the early x games) is the guy behind it iirc.
long time lurker, first time post-er.......ughhhh, need a 2021 woodshop directory fosho, though. birdhouse never responded to me so i guess their wood is made from china? i would like to get that tony hawk og falcon reissue 8.125 deck but i dont want to fork out $60+ for shit/unknown wood. covid makes getting quality shit really hard but it certainly can be much worse, for instance, i could be dead.
Woo hoo! Just got a reply from DLX and they're sending up two replacement decks for me (I only had 2 of the 3 dlx decks I snapped left to take photos of for them, so that's what they replaced). DLX really is the best, huh?
Didn't see this but just found this out yesterday. I didn't see it on the first post of what brands are made at a specific wood shop. Techne decks come from PS Stix.
https://techneskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/skulls-8-0-x-32
Woo hoo! Just got a reply from DLX and they're sending up two replacement decks for me (I only had 2 of the 3 dlx decks I snapped left to take photos of for them, so that's what they replaced). DLX really is the best, huh?
Does anyone know who presses Cowtown's boards? I want one of those Leopard print shop boards really bad hahahaI do not. Did you try DM’ing them on IG? Curious about dimensions too of that 9.4” and 9”
I do not. Did you try DM’ing them on IG? Curious about dimensions too of that 9.4” and 9”Expand QuoteDoes anyone know who presses Cowtown's boards? I want one of those Leopard print shop boards really bad hahaha[close]
(https://i.imgur.com/izKFts6l.jpg)
anyone recognize this shop?
Edit:
after some sleuthing, it looks like it's a control board. Anyone got opinions on control?
(https://i.imgur.com/izKFts6l.jpg)
anyone recognize this shop?
Edit:
after some sleuthing, it looks like it's a control board. Anyone got opinions on control?
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anyone recognize this shop?
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after some sleuthing, it looks like it's a control board. Anyone got opinions on control?[close]
I would not ride anything pressed at Control even if it was free. Some people like them though.
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anyone recognize this shop?
Edit:
after some sleuthing, it looks like it's a control board. Anyone got opinions on control?[close]
I would not ride anything pressed at Control even if it was free. Some people like them though.[close]
Why no control?
@TwisT pretty flat, that’s why I liked it. Mine were stiff, stayed that way. I prefer a little more flex like ps, but I’d skate em again. Studio is control, ya? Man their graphics are so sick. Another company that I should buy from
agreed, weird wood that looses its pop, also strange unroutered edges on the top ply. sc, bbs, dwindle, penns for meExpand Quote(https://i.imgur.com/izKFts6l.jpg)
anyone recognize this shop?
Edit:
after some sleuthing, it looks like it's a control board. Anyone got opinions on control?[close]
I would not ride anything pressed at Control even if it was free. Some people like them though.
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anyone recognize this shop?
Edit:
after some sleuthing, it looks like it's a control board. Anyone got opinions on control?[close]
I would not ride anything pressed at Control even if it was free. Some people like them though.[close]
Why no control?
@TwisT pretty flat, that’s why I liked it. Mine were stiff, stayed that way. I prefer a little more flex like ps, but I’d skate em again. Studio is control, ya? Man their graphics are so sick. Another company that I should buy from[close]
I've never held one/stood on one I like the feel of. It's a shame because I agree Studio is sick and I like a lot of their graphics. Now, I've never personally skated a Control since I haven't found one I like, but I've heard a fair bit of bad feedback from people who have tried them. The most common complaint is that they are soggy from the get go.
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anyone recognize this shop?
Edit:
after some sleuthing, it looks like it's a control board. Anyone got opinions on control?[close]
I would not ride anything pressed at Control even if it was free. Some people like them though.[close]
Why no control?
@TwisT pretty flat, that’s why I liked it. Mine were stiff, stayed that way. I prefer a little more flex like ps, but I’d skate em again. Studio is control, ya? Man their graphics are so sick. Another company that I should buy from[close]
I've never held one/stood on one I like the feel of. It's a shame because I agree Studio is sick and I like a lot of their graphics. Now, I've never personally skated a Control since I haven't found one I like, but I've heard a fair bit of bad feedback from people who have tried them. The most common complaint is that they are soggy from the get go.[close]
I don’t think I’d call mine soggy....I tap boards on the ground to kinda ‘gauge’ (just total bs on my part) the pop of the board. Obviously I’m also checking it via, you know, actually attempting tricks and what not, but a quick tap on the ground is gonna happen, often. Anyways, the control boards sounded the same, good solid sound, sounded better than they went tho. If any of that drivel I subject whomever to makes sense. Wasn’t terrible, durable, lasted, wasn’t amazing.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteanyone recognize this shop?
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after some sleuthing, it looks like it's a control board. Anyone got opinions on control?[close]
I would not ride anything pressed at Control even if it was free. Some people like them though.[close]
Why no control?
@TwisT pretty flat, that’s why I liked it. Mine were stiff, stayed that way. I prefer a little more flex like ps, but I’d skate em again. Studio is control, ya? Man their graphics are so sick. Another company that I should buy from[close]
I've never held one/stood on one I like the feel of. It's a shame because I agree Studio is sick and I like a lot of their graphics. Now, I've never personally skated a Control since I haven't found one I like, but I've heard a fair bit of bad feedback from people who have tried them. The most common complaint is that they are soggy from the get go.[close]
I don’t think I’d call mine soggy....I tap boards on the ground to kinda ‘gauge’ (just total bs on my part) the pop of the board. Obviously I’m also checking it via, you know, actually attempting tricks and what not, but a quick tap on the ground is gonna happen, often. Anyways, the control boards sounded the same, good solid sound, sounded better than they went tho. If any of that drivel I subject whomever to makes sense. Wasn’t terrible, durable, lasted, wasn’t amazing.[close]
This is actually one of the new “Canadian made” moose decks from TGM. I bought a moose deck last year to keep with family up north. It had Made in China sticker and it felt dead on arrival. I bought this just test some diy heat transfers, and immediately noticed it was different wood.
I’d say it has mellow concave but the kicks are the same as this dlx board I have. I also weighed the boards. The blank is 2lbs 15oz. The dlx is 2lbs 12oz. I doubt that makes any difference.
the muska reissue boards are prime if im not mistakenThanks for the fast answer!
Thanks for the fast answer!Expand Quotethe muska reissue boards are prime if im not mistaken[close]
Also if anyone have experiences with prime wood, would love to hear
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anyone recognize this shop?
Edit:
after some sleuthing, it looks like it's a control board. Anyone got opinions on control?[close]
I would not ride anything pressed at Control even if it was free. Some people like them though.[close]
Why no control?
@TwisT pretty flat, that’s why I liked it. Mine were stiff, stayed that way. I prefer a little more flex like ps, but I’d skate em again. Studio is control, ya? Man their graphics are so sick. Another company that I should buy from[close]
I've never held one/stood on one I like the feel of. It's a shame because I agree Studio is sick and I like a lot of their graphics. Now, I've never personally skated a Control since I haven't found one I like, but I've heard a fair bit of bad feedback from people who have tried them. The most common complaint is that they are soggy from the get go.
Does anyone know for certain where Zero boards (specifically the classic graphics like this one) are currently pressed? I thought for sure they were BBS but this one doesn’t have the usual made in Mexico/skate at your own risk sticker. It does have an etching for the width, but no other stickers or markings.
(https://i.ibb.co/k9WFhXh/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k9WFhXh)(https://i.ibb.co/SKPN1JQ/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKPN1JQ)
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know for certain where Zero boards (specifically the classic graphics like this one) are currently pressed? I thought for sure they were BBS but this one doesn’t have the usual made in Mexico/skate at your own risk sticker. It does have an etching for the width, but no other stickers or markings.
(https://i.ibb.co/k9WFhXh/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k9WFhXh)(https://i.ibb.co/SKPN1JQ/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKPN1JQ)[close]
I have been looking around and it would seem that Zero is one of the companies that has different boards for different parts of the world. I had thought in the US they are BBS now, maybe the same at other places and seems our local ones here in Australia, or at least some are still Dwindle (clearly have the Dwindle markings as per insta post I will put up) but this is usually the same as the Baker Boys stamp, on Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, etc so I would be thinking it would be BBS, but would have to feel the concave to know - does it feel more spoon shaped in the kicks, or if you have one of those boards or anything BBS does it feel like that?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKQjiDXAwNH/
Right now I’m skating an 8.25 x 32.125 Black Label and the shape and feel does seems quite similar but off the bat I think the Zero is a tad bit steeper concave wise. Of course that could be due to where they are in the press stack and the mold used. I suppose it’s pretty safe to say this board came out of BBS.
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know for certain where Zero boards (specifically the classic graphics like this one) are currently pressed? I thought for sure they were BBS but this one doesn’t have the usual made in Mexico/skate at your own risk sticker. It does have an etching for the width, but no other stickers or markings.
(https://i.ibb.co/k9WFhXh/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k9WFhXh)(https://i.ibb.co/SKPN1JQ/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKPN1JQ)[close]
I have been looking around and it would seem that Zero is one of the companies that has different boards for different parts of the world. I had thought in the US they are BBS now, maybe the same at other places and seems our local ones here in Australia, or at least some are still Dwindle (clearly have the Dwindle markings as per insta post I will put up) but this is usually the same as the Baker Boys stamp, on Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, etc so I would be thinking it would be BBS, but would have to feel the concave to know - does it feel more spoon shaped in the kicks, or if you have one of those boards or anything BBS does it feel like that?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKQjiDXAwNH/
It's not uncommon for companies to get dwindle or other Chinese made boards for the markets outside North America.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone know for certain where Zero boards (specifically the classic graphics like this one) are currently pressed? I thought for sure they were BBS but this one doesn’t have the usual made in Mexico/skate at your own risk sticker. It does have an etching for the width, but no other stickers or markings.
(https://i.ibb.co/k9WFhXh/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k9WFhXh)(https://i.ibb.co/SKPN1JQ/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKPN1JQ)[close]
I have been looking around and it would seem that Zero is one of the companies that has different boards for different parts of the world. I had thought in the US they are BBS now, maybe the same at other places and seems our local ones here in Australia, or at least some are still Dwindle (clearly have the Dwindle markings as per insta post I will put up) but this is usually the same as the Baker Boys stamp, on Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, etc so I would be thinking it would be BBS, but would have to feel the concave to know - does it feel more spoon shaped in the kicks, or if you have one of those boards or anything BBS does it feel like that?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKQjiDXAwNH/[close]
If I'm not wrong the DSM ones could be leftover inventory from when they were still pressing in China. I don't keep up with their brands and graphics much but late-2020 I think they went back to Mexico, just before Chris Cole got back on the team.
https://zeroskateboards.com/pages/d3-2020
Around my neck of the woods I've seen boards from this series with the DSM cut-out and the laser etching.
It's not uncommon for companies to get dwindle or other Chinese made boards for the markets outside North America.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone know for certain where Zero boards (specifically the classic graphics like this one) are currently pressed? I thought for sure they were BBS but this one doesn’t have the usual made in Mexico/skate at your own risk sticker. It does have an etching for the width, but no other stickers or markings.
(https://i.ibb.co/k9WFhXh/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k9WFhXh)(https://i.ibb.co/SKPN1JQ/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKPN1JQ)[close]
I have been looking around and it would seem that Zero is one of the companies that has different boards for different parts of the world. I had thought in the US they are BBS now, maybe the same at other places and seems our local ones here in Australia, or at least some are still Dwindle (clearly have the Dwindle markings as per insta post I will put up) but this is usually the same as the Baker Boys stamp, on Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, etc so I would be thinking it would be BBS, but would have to feel the concave to know - does it feel more spoon shaped in the kicks, or if you have one of those boards or anything BBS does it feel like that?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKQjiDXAwNH/[close]
If I'm not wrong the DSM ones could be leftover inventory from when they were still pressing in China. I don't keep up with their brands and graphics much but late-2020 I think they went back to Mexico, just before Chris Cole got back on the team.
https://zeroskateboards.com/pages/d3-2020
Around my neck of the woods I've seen boards from this series with the DSM cut-out and the laser etching.[close]
anyone know where to find dims on magenta boards? they were too cool to include anything but width on their site
anyone know where to find dims on magenta boards? they were too cool to include anything but width on their site
8.5 and upExpand Quoteanyone know where to find dims on magenta boards? they were too cool to include anything but width on their site[close]
https://www.tactics.com/magenta/skateboard-decks
What size are you looking to ride? I had an 8.125 that followed Ben Degros' / Tactics Generator dimensions.
https://www.tactics.com/tactics/leisure-league-series-skateboard-deck/ping-pong
Team Wood Deck8.5 and upExpand QuoteExpand Quoteanyone know where to find dims on magenta boards? they were too cool to include anything but width on their site[close]
https://www.tactics.com/magenta/skateboard-decks
What size are you looking to ride? I had an 8.125 that followed Ben Degros' / Tactics Generator dimensions.
https://www.tactics.com/tactics/leisure-league-series-skateboard-deck/ping-pong[close]
besides baker/deathwish anyone know of any 8.25 x 31.5 ?edit: palace makes 8.25 x 31.5 - 14wb
Girl and chocolate make pretty similar specs too.edit: palace makes 8.25 x 31.5 - 14wbExpand Quotebesides baker/deathwish anyone know of any 8.25 x 31.5 ?[close]
i dont know any with those exact measurements but these are pretty close:
primitive makes 8.25 x 31.75 - 14 wb
anti hero makes 8.12 x 31.38 - 14 wb
the anti hero is one of my favourites, its really short.
anyone know where to find dims on magenta boards? they were too cool to include anything but width on their site
edit: palace makes 8.25 x 31.5 - 14wbExpand Quotebesides baker/deathwish anyone know of any 8.25 x 31.5 ?[close]
i dont know any with those exact measurements but these are pretty close:
primitive makes 8.25 x 31.75 - 14 wb
anti hero makes 8.12 x 31.38 - 14 wb
the anti hero is one of my favourites, its really short.
Does anyone know for certain where Zero boards (specifically the classic graphics like this one) are currently pressed? I thought for sure they were BBS but this one doesn’t have the usual made in Mexico/skate at your own risk sticker. It does have an etching for the width, but no other stickers or markings.
(https://i.ibb.co/k9WFhXh/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k9WFhXh)(https://i.ibb.co/SKPN1JQ/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKPN1JQ)
besides baker/deathwish anyone know of any 8.25 x 31.5 ?
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know for certain where Zero boards (specifically the classic graphics like this one) are currently pressed? I thought for sure they were BBS but this one doesn’t have the usual made in Mexico/skate at your own risk sticker. It does have an etching for the width, but no other stickers or markings.
(https://i.ibb.co/k9WFhXh/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k9WFhXh)(https://i.ibb.co/SKPN1JQ/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKPN1JQ)[close]
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know for certain where Zero boards (specifically the classic graphics like this one) are currently pressed? I thought for sure they were BBS but this one doesn’t have the usual made in Mexico/skate at your own risk sticker. It does have an etching for the width, but no other stickers or markings.
(https://i.ibb.co/k9WFhXh/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k9WFhXh)(https://i.ibb.co/SKPN1JQ/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKPN1JQ)[close]
Still BBS. Sometimes they run out of stickers or just forget them. The width stamp thing is something they've been doing more often. I've seen it on birdhouse and deathwish decks too.
Expand Quotebesides baker/deathwish anyone know of any 8.25 x 31.5 ?[close]
This is my preferred dims so I could ramble on forever but I'll try to keep it simple. Do you have a preferred wb or concave? Also note that the baker 8.25 ia actually 31.8, however the birdhouse 8.25 is 31.5 and a better shape than baker in my opinion.
14" wb options
- Blood Wizard has a good 31.6 shape thats very flat.
- If you can get ahold of one, the strangelove heart skull 8.25 shape is between 31.3-31.5
- as someone else noted palace, evisen, and colours have a 31.5, i think its a stock dsm shape..never skated one so cant comment
14.25 wb (lots of ps stix)
- old WKND (like before mid 2019 or so) is probably my favorite 8.25 x 31.5. Its got a nice tail and a huge nose. If you somehow find one of these buy it. If you hate it ill buy it off you.
- some PS Foundations are 31.5, theres also a 14 wb one but i haven't seen one for a minute. Flat and mellow. Great shape.
- clutch O shape is nominally 31.6 but the two ive had were both closer to 31.5. Medium concave, medium tail, slightly steeper big square nose. Easy to find and very good alternative to hockey/wknd/snack style decks. Coda uses this shape and I suspect the newest run of pizza is all clutch O but I haven't confirmed yet.
- some older PS FA/hockey 8.25 are 31.5, again hard to find now but great shape
Toy machine/Foundation has a mellow PS shape thats supposedly 31.5 with a 14.5 wb, but the one I got was more like 31.75. Its also becoming harder to find PS tumyeto boards (unless the latest run which i haven't seen are back on it) and I have no idea what the new ones are, only that they're china wood.
I'm probably forgetting some but this should get you started. Keep in mind that some PS boards are measured with concave so their tip to tip length will be like a half inch shorter. For example quasi 8.25 is listed as 32.125 but its actually 31.75 tip to tip. If any of these look good to you and you're having trouble finding one shoot me a PM. Any time I come across a short 8.25 I bookmark it, so I can hopefully point you in the right direction.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone know for certain where Zero boards (specifically the classic graphics like this one) are currently pressed? I thought for sure they were BBS but this one doesn’t have the usual made in Mexico/skate at your own risk sticker. It does have an etching for the width, but no other stickers or markings.
(https://i.ibb.co/k9WFhXh/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k9WFhXh)(https://i.ibb.co/SKPN1JQ/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKPN1JQ)[close]
wknd 8.25 ct I found and just ordered 8.25 x 31.25 14wb incase anyone wanted to know what I found. thanks for all the help! much appreciated
Still BBS. Sometimes they run out of stickers or just forget them. The width stamp thing is something they've been doing more often. I've seen it on birdhouse and deathwish decks too.
Expand Quotebesides baker/deathwish anyone know of any 8.25 x 31.5 ?[close]
This is my preferred dims so I could ramble on forever but I'll try to keep it simple. Do you have a preferred wb or concave? Also note that the baker 8.25 ia actually 31.8, however the birdhouse 8.25 is 31.5 and a better shape than baker in my opinion.
14" wb options
- Blood Wizard has a good 31.6 shape thats very flat.
- If you can get ahold of one, the strangelove heart skull 8.25 shape is between 31.3-31.5
- as someone else noted palace, evisen, and colours have a 31.5, i think its a stock dsm shape..never skated one so cant comment
14.25 wb (lots of ps stix)
- old WKND (like before mid 2019 or so) is probably my favorite 8.25 x 31.5. Its got a nice tail and a huge nose. If you somehow find one of these buy it. If you hate it ill buy it off you.
- some PS Foundations are 31.5, theres also a 14 wb one but i haven't seen one for a minute. Flat and mellow. Great shape.
- clutch O shape is nominally 31.6 but the two ive had were both closer to 31.5. Medium concave, medium tail, slightly steeper big square nose. Easy to find and very good alternative to hockey/wknd/snack style decks. Coda uses this shape and I suspect the newest run of pizza is all clutch O but I haven't confirmed yet.
- some older PS FA/hockey 8.25 are 31.5, again hard to find now but great shape
Toy machine/Foundation has a mellow PS shape thats supposedly 31.5 with a 14.5 wb, but the one I got was more like 31.75. Its also becoming harder to find PS tumyeto boards (unless the latest run which i haven't seen are back on it) and I have no idea what the new ones are, only that they're china wood.
I'm probably forgetting some but this should get you started. Keep in mind that some PS boards are measured with concave so their tip to tip length will be like a half inch shorter. For example quasi 8.25 is listed as 32.125 but its actually 31.75 tip to tip. If any of these look good to you and you're having trouble finding one shoot me a PM. Any time I come across a short 8.25 I bookmark it, so I can hopefully point you in the right direction.[close]
cheers man! my buddy has a palace that is nice and short but everyone scoops them up too fast its like a damn dunk. in a perfect world I can find one with the squarish shape of the fa's I've been skating but im down to ditch the square for a better feel plus im short and some of these boards are too long. thanks for the help!
Have to disagree about Zero still being BBS - I had one in the spring that was definitely NOT BBS, and wasn't old Dwindle stock either. Apparently Clutch is getting a lot of business from brands that usually use BBS but are having issues with wait times (and I've heard they also got ex BBS staff). I've been keeping an eye on our Zero stock at the shop (we are loosely affiliated with the Canadian Zero dist), and they all seem to be from the same manufacturer since the spring at least. I recently rode a board that I know was pressed at Clutch - after that I have a pretty good eye for Clutch decks, and I'm about 90% sure that's what Zero boards are these days.
Don't get too hung up on the little divot punch by the truck holes - multiple woodshops do that. What you need to pay attention to is the routing of the edges, the dye colors, and the concave. Our Zero boards have very telltale routing that points to Clutch (inconsistent routing that leans more towards too much round over than too little), and the dyes also aren't reflective of BBS stock. Clutch's orange is pretty identifiable. I noticed Theories has switched to Clutch as well, at least all the last shipment we got was Clutch.
that's rounding off the sharp edges on the perimeter of the board to eliminate stress risers and provide a smooth finish.Expand QuoteHave to disagree about Zero still being BBS - I had one in the spring that was definitely NOT BBS, and wasn't old Dwindle stock either. Apparently Clutch is getting a lot of business from brands that usually use BBS but are having issues with wait times (and I've heard they also got ex BBS staff). I've been keeping an eye on our Zero stock at the shop (we are loosely affiliated with the Canadian Zero dist), and they all seem to be from the same manufacturer since the spring at least. I recently rode a board that I know was pressed at Clutch - after that I have a pretty good eye for Clutch decks, and I'm about 90% sure that's what Zero boards are these days.
Don't get too hung up on the little divot punch by the truck holes - multiple woodshops do that. What you need to pay attention to is the routing of the edges, the dye colors, and the concave. Our Zero boards have very telltale routing that points to Clutch (inconsistent routing that leans more towards too much round over than too little), and the dyes also aren't reflective of BBS stock. Clutch's orange is pretty identifiable. I noticed Theories has switched to Clutch as well, at least all the last shipment we got was Clutch.[close]
Interesting, could you explain for a lay-person like me what routing is? Never noticed Clutch's orange dye, would you be able to send a pic?
Have to disagree about Zero still being BBS - I had one in the spring that was definitely NOT BBS, and wasn't old Dwindle stock either. Apparently Clutch is getting a lot of business from brands that usually use BBS but are having issues with wait times (and I've heard they also got ex BBS staff). I've been keeping an eye on our Zero stock at the shop (we are loosely affiliated with the Canadian Zero dist), and they all seem to be from the same manufacturer since the spring at least. I recently rode a board that I know was pressed at Clutch - after that I have a pretty good eye for Clutch decks, and I'm about 90% sure that's what Zero boards are these days.
Don't get too hung up on the little divot punch by the truck holes - multiple woodshops do that. What you need to pay attention to is the routing of the edges, the dye colors, and the concave. Our Zero boards have very telltale routing that points to Clutch (inconsistent routing that leans more towards too much round over than too little), and the dyes also aren't reflective of BBS stock. Clutch's orange is pretty identifiable. I noticed Theories has switched to Clutch as well, at least all the last shipment we got was Clutch.
Expand QuoteHave to disagree about Zero still being BBS - I had one in the spring that was definitely NOT BBS, and wasn't old Dwindle stock either. Apparently Clutch is getting a lot of business from brands that usually use BBS but are having issues with wait times (and I've heard they also got ex BBS staff). I've been keeping an eye on our Zero stock at the shop (we are loosely affiliated with the Canadian Zero dist), and they all seem to be from the same manufacturer since the spring at least. I recently rode a board that I know was pressed at Clutch - after that I have a pretty good eye for Clutch decks, and I'm about 90% sure that's what Zero boards are these days.
Don't get too hung up on the little divot punch by the truck holes - multiple woodshops do that. What you need to pay attention to is the routing of the edges, the dye colors, and the concave. Our Zero boards have very telltale routing that points to Clutch (inconsistent routing that leans more towards too much round over than too little), and the dyes also aren't reflective of BBS stock. Clutch's orange is pretty identifiable. I noticed Theories has switched to Clutch as well, at least all the last shipment we got was Clutch.[close]
Re Zero decks - interesting!
That top stamp (not the dot) but the size as per the blue pic from the Zero board post looks just like the tops of Baker Boys distro boards, eg of boards I have from Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse they are all the same stamp, so just wondering if your boards you have seen have that as well.
The one Clutch board I have (that I know for certain) feels almost like BBS but has steeper concave / kicks than BBS, others I have seen but not skated had very mellow and almost identical mold to BBS, but I also heard with different presses there are different concave options too, same as a lot of woodshops. My Clutch board also has the V 8 or something like that, I know I had checked and found they are the tell for those boards as to the size, shape, etc.
Also their dye not so much but more the woodgrain - very pronounced wood grain on a lot of their boards, is what I found was more a tell as to their woodshop, which is hard to convey in simple pics on here, but I know some of their instagram pics have lots more detail that you can zoom in on.
*** Just went looking at Clutch Distribution / ASF Manufacturing seems like they don't have Instagram any more ***
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz_OcLYl3Oi/
Expand QuoteHave to disagree about Zero still being BBS - I had one in the spring that was definitely NOT BBS, and wasn't old Dwindle stock either. Apparently Clutch is getting a lot of business from brands that usually use BBS but are having issues with wait times (and I've heard they also got ex BBS staff). I've been keeping an eye on our Zero stock at the shop (we are loosely affiliated with the Canadian Zero dist), and they all seem to be from the same manufacturer since the spring at least. I recently rode a board that I know was pressed at Clutch - after that I have a pretty good eye for Clutch decks, and I'm about 90% sure that's what Zero boards are these days.
Don't get too hung up on the little divot punch by the truck holes - multiple woodshops do that. What you need to pay attention to is the routing of the edges, the dye colors, and the concave. Our Zero boards have very telltale routing that points to Clutch (inconsistent routing that leans more towards too much round over than too little), and the dyes also aren't reflective of BBS stock. Clutch's orange is pretty identifiable. I noticed Theories has switched to Clutch as well, at least all the last shipment we got was Clutch.[close]
Re Zero decks - interesting!
That top stamp (not the dot) but the size as per the blue pic from the Zero board post looks just like the tops of Baker Boys distro boards, eg of boards I have from Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse they are all the same stamp, so just wondering if your boards you have seen have that as well.
The one Clutch board I have (that I know for certain) feels almost like BBS but has steeper concave / kicks than BBS, others I have seen but not skated had very mellow and almost identical mold to BBS, but I also heard with different presses there are different concave options too, same as a lot of woodshops. My Clutch board also has the V 8 or something like that, I know I had checked and found they are the tell for those boards as to the size, shape, etc.
Also their dye not so much but more the woodgrain - very pronounced wood grain on a lot of their boards, is what I found was more a tell as to their woodshop, which is hard to convey in simple pics on here, but I know some of their instagram pics have lots more detail that you can zoom in on.
*** Just went looking at Clutch Distribution / ASF Manufacturing seems like they don't have Instagram any more ***
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz_OcLYl3Oi/
Yo Mbrimson, I think I met you once years ago, did you work for City Beach in some capacity at some point?
Being the aussie skate shop guy that you are, do you have any info on where the Absolute blanks that all the shopboards are on come from. I know they're chinese, but beyond that, do you have any info?
Those definitely look like Clutch from the pic - the round over on Clutch boards often goes through the dye a bit, as you can see in the edges of those brown boards. It's just not as solid and consistent as BBS routing.
Apparently, from what I've heard through different sources, Clutch intentionally makes molds similar to BBS for the very reason of courting BBS customers. I agree a lot of the common Clutch boards are steeper than the average BBS deck - and another tell for Clutch is that on those steep boards there's almost no flat space in the concave - it's a constant curve from edge to edge. Most visible when you put your trucks on via the space under the corners of your baseplates.
I think I know what you mean about the pronounced woodgrain - like they're ordering a different grade. The Zero's we have, and other Clutch boards I've seen, often have streaks of woodgrain that's a darker shade than the rest.
Stamping the shape code into the boards is something brands can ask to NOT have done, and I've seen Clutch decks with and without it.
I could take a photo of my orange Nonexistent deck that was Clutch, but between my camera, my computer, and your computers, who knows what shade you're really seeing. It's a darker shade than the most common BBS orange.
The reason I'm obsessing over this particular query is that I've been trying to pin down the characteristics of Clutch decks so I could identify them in the future. I finally had the chance to skate a deck that I know came from Clutch (the Nonexistent), and there were some obvious tells for me, so now it's easier for me to spot them in other brands stock. In Canada it seems like Zero went from BBS to Clutch sometime in 2020. That's just from inspecting the decks I've had access to. We sell a fair amount at the shop.
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Yo Mbrimson, I think I met you once years ago, did you work for City Beach in some capacity at some point?
Being the aussie skate shop guy that you are, do you have any info on where the Absolute blanks that all the shopboards are on come from. I know they're chinese, but beyond that, do you have any info?[close]
Hi, yes that was me - started on the ramp / Skate shop 2005 for a while, then travelled doing stocktakes until 2017.
Absolute Dist source wood from a few different places, but mainly one woodshop in China, cannot recall the name of it right now, but it is maybe ten or more pages back in here.
When I find it I will put it up...
Cool! Yeah, i met you in Lismore when Nimbin was very fresh. Groovy, I'll look back through some of these pages, but would be very appreciative if you were able to point me in the right direction. I'm so absolutely conditioned into skating those shop boards. I don't even want to ride anything else at this point.
I got a Primitive Villani sock monster deck thinking that will be BBS, but the sticker says made in China... It is made on Dailan Huahong or DSM? :/
(https://i.imgur.com/nVDlpDN.png)
Expand QuoteI got a Primitive Villani sock monster deck thinking that will be BBS, but the sticker says made in China... It is made on Dailan Huahong or DSM? :/
(https://i.imgur.com/nVDlpDN.png)[close]
Dailan Huahong, if it was DSM you would see the DSM carboard insert talking about the manufacturing process. It's a shame, I thought all Primitive pro decks were still pressed in BBS, the team boards (Script logo boards) were made in China.
Anyone know if HLC boards have any top marking / laser engravings on them? Plan B does their North America boards in PS Stix, Europe decks in HLC, keen to see if the HLC ones have any marking or are they prime for counterfeits.
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Those definitely look like Clutch from the pic - the round over on Clutch boards often goes through the dye a bit, as you can see in the edges of those brown boards. It's just not as solid and consistent as BBS routing.
Apparently, from what I've heard through different sources, Clutch intentionally makes molds similar to BBS for the very reason of courting BBS customers. I agree a lot of the common Clutch boards are steeper than the average BBS deck - and another tell for Clutch is that on those steep boards there's almost no flat space in the concave - it's a constant curve from edge to edge. Most visible when you put your trucks on via the space under the corners of your baseplates.
I think I know what you mean about the pronounced woodgrain - like they're ordering a different grade. The Zero's we have, and other Clutch boards I've seen, often have streaks of woodgrain that's a darker shade than the rest.
Stamping the shape code into the boards is something brands can ask to NOT have done, and I've seen Clutch decks with and without it.
I could take a photo of my orange Nonexistent deck that was Clutch, but between my camera, my computer, and your computers, who knows what shade you're really seeing. It's a darker shade than the most common BBS orange.
The reason I'm obsessing over this particular query is that I've been trying to pin down the characteristics of Clutch decks so I could identify them in the future. I finally had the chance to skate a deck that I know came from Clutch (the Nonexistent), and there were some obvious tells for me, so now it's easier for me to spot them in other brands stock. In Canada it seems like Zero went from BBS to Clutch sometime in 2020. That's just from inspecting the decks I've had access to. We sell a fair amount at the shop.[close]
I follow quite a few accounts related to various woodshops and individuals who work in or run them, but this one still is up and I can send you a lot more info than I would just put on here, but yes that was definitely Clutch wood, as is the one below and yes Julio worked at BBS for a while before going to Clutch / ASF Manufacturing (as well as a pro skateboarder back in the day and had a number of successful companies too, including Neighborhood currently).
Of all the pics and info, there are very few orange tops, but this shows the much more detailed wood grain, as well as the darker orange stain.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhLHJmyjrq-/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhI3FCpjEx0/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9xZjD_lATB/
Tbh never had good experiences with BBS, i always end up chippin them early on.
Have to disagree about Zero still being BBS - I had one in the spring that was definitely NOT BBS, and wasn't old Dwindle stock either. Apparently Clutch is getting a lot of business from brands that usually use BBS but are having issues with wait times (and I've heard they also got ex BBS staff). I've been keeping an eye on our Zero stock at the shop (we are loosely affiliated with the Canadian Zero dist), and they all seem to be from the same manufacturer since the spring at least. I recently rode a board that I know was pressed at Clutch - after that I have a pretty good eye for Clutch decks, and I'm about 90% sure that's what Zero boards are these days.
Don't get too hung up on the little divot punch by the truck holes - multiple woodshops do that. What you need to pay attention to is the routing of the edges, the dye colors, and the concave. Our Zero boards have very telltale routing that points to Clutch (inconsistent routing that leans more towards too much round over than too little), and the dyes also aren't reflective of BBS stock. Clutch's orange is pretty identifiable. I noticed Theories has switched to Clutch as well, at least all the last shipment we got was Clutch.
Anyone been having issues with covid era BBS decks?
Skating my first DLX deck in a long while and my nose chipped the other night following a light collision just an hour after I set the thing up.
Also noticing the middle plies aren’t stained like which makes them look like price point boards/shop decks I’ve seen from BBS in the past.
What gives?
Expand QuoteAnyone been having issues with covid era BBS decks?
Skating my first DLX deck in a long while and my nose chipped the other night following a light collision just an hour after I set the thing up.
Also noticing the middle plies aren’t stained like which makes them look like price point boards/shop decks I’ve seen from BBS in the past.
What gives?[close]
BBS / DLX for a while have had two coloured top plies and the bottom one, some other regular BBS have only the top and the middle, but in general it is usually three at the most. If you have a board with only the single top ply stained, it is usually a price point.
Unless it is a special edition that has more coloured ply, that is the way they have been for as long as I have been getting them, with a request from the DLX shapes thread to put up pics of the stain layers over the years, which I am still yet to do.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI got a Primitive Villani sock monster deck thinking that will be BBS, but the sticker says made in China... It is made on Dailan Huahong or DSM? :/[close]
Dailan Huahong, if it was DSM you would see the DSM carboard insert talking about the manufacturing process. It's a shame, I thought all Primitive pro decks were still pressed in BBS, the team boards (Script logo boards) were made in China.
Anyone know if HLC boards have any top marking / laser engravings on them? Plan B does their North America boards in PS Stix, Europe decks in HLC, keen to see if the HLC ones have any marking or are they prime for counterfeits.[close]
They have an engraved top marking, not laser. They put different ones depending on the brand:
(https://i.imgur.com/EhZQWeR.png)(https://i.imgur.com/xs44lji.png)
Thanks for the info, It does not have to be bad at all, since I have skated some girl shapes that I have loved. But I feel cheated because I thought I was buying a BBS board...
I work for crailtap distribution over in Canada, if any of you guys want to try one of the p.s stix boards we have them on our site. https://crailstore.ca/collections/decks we ship to the USA.
The ps stix boards we have are.
https://crailstore.ca/collections/decks/products/simon-bannerot-93-til-pro-model-girl-deck-8-25
https://crailstore.ca/collections/decks/products/cory-kennedy-93-til-pro-model-girl-deck-8-5
https://crailstore.ca/collections/decks/products/mike-carroll-93-til-pro-model-girl-deck-8-375
Expand QuoteI got a Primitive Villani sock monster deck thinking that will be BBS, but the sticker says made in China... It is made on Dailan Huahong or DSM? :/
(https://i.imgur.com/nVDlpDN.png)[close]
Dailan Huahong, if it was DSM you would see the DSM carboard insert talking about the manufacturing process. It's a shame, I thought all Primitive pro decks were still pressed in BBS, the team boards (Script logo boards) were made in China.
Anyone know if HLC boards have any top marking / laser engravings on them? Plan B does their North America boards in PS Stix, Europe decks in HLC, keen to see if the HLC ones have any marking or are they prime for counterfeits.
Has anyone bought a recent deck that's PS Stix? I'm looking online but I'm having trouble finding brands that have used them in the past. I know with the pandemic, brands have had to jump ship and use other woodshops to keep up but was just wondering if PS Stix was still doing the engraving or stickers on the top of the decks?
Yeah we definitely need a new thread and updated list. Reason I brought up the PS Stix is I saw this post from socal and TY was PS but not sure where they're getting made now. Clutch or DSM? Anyone seen those little stickers with the size on the decks before? Gonna look through the thread and see if a deck with that stickers been posted before as well.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CK1tzhgjvYd/?igshid=1gwvlrj6m9zxg
Expand QuoteHave to disagree about Zero still being BBS - I had one in the spring that was definitely NOT BBS, and wasn't old Dwindle stock either. Apparently Clutch is getting a lot of business from brands that usually use BBS but are having issues with wait times (and I've heard they also got ex BBS staff). I've been keeping an eye on our Zero stock at the shop (we are loosely affiliated with the Canadian Zero dist), and they all seem to be from the same manufacturer since the spring at least. I recently rode a board that I know was pressed at Clutch - after that I have a pretty good eye for Clutch decks, and I'm about 90% sure that's what Zero boards are these days.
Don't get too hung up on the little divot punch by the truck holes - multiple woodshops do that. What you need to pay attention to is the routing of the edges, the dye colors, and the concave. Our Zero boards have very telltale routing that points to Clutch (inconsistent routing that leans more towards too much round over than too little), and the dyes also aren't reflective of BBS stock. Clutch's orange is pretty identifiable. I noticed Theories has switched to Clutch as well, at least all the last shipment we got was Clutch.[close]
The reason why I stopped skating hoops and traffic boards. Couldn't get down with the clutch wood. Unfortunate too.
Expand QuoteYeah we definitely need a new thread and updated list. Reason I brought up the PS Stix is I saw this post from socal and TY was PS but not sure where they're getting made now. Clutch or DSM? Anyone seen those little stickers with the size on the decks before? Gonna look through the thread and see if a deck with that stickers been posted before as well. By the insta post I assume the team decks are DSM and the Pro boards are Clutch.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CK1tzhgjvYd/?igshid=1gwvlrj6m9zxg[close]
I’ve got a post a page or two back in the9” board thread. I have a Blood Wizard that is Clutch and it had the little round sticker. Underneath was the shape number.
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Those definitely look like Clutch from the pic - the round over on Clutch boards often goes through the dye a bit, as you can see in the edges of those brown boards. It's just not as solid and consistent as BBS routing.
Apparently, from what I've heard through different sources, Clutch intentionally makes molds similar to BBS for the very reason of courting BBS customers. I agree a lot of the common Clutch boards are steeper than the average BBS deck - and another tell for Clutch is that on those steep boards there's almost no flat space in the concave - it's a constant curve from edge to edge. Most visible when you put your trucks on via the space under the corners of your baseplates.
I think I know what you mean about the pronounced woodgrain - like they're ordering a different grade. The Zero's we have, and other Clutch boards I've seen, often have streaks of woodgrain that's a darker shade than the rest.
Stamping the shape code into the boards is something brands can ask to NOT have done, and I've seen Clutch decks with and without it.
I could take a photo of my orange Nonexistent deck that was Clutch, but between my camera, my computer, and your computers, who knows what shade you're really seeing. It's a darker shade than the most common BBS orange.
The reason I'm obsessing over this particular query is that I've been trying to pin down the characteristics of Clutch decks so I could identify them in the future. I finally had the chance to skate a deck that I know came from Clutch (the Nonexistent), and there were some obvious tells for me, so now it's easier for me to spot them in other brands stock. In Canada it seems like Zero went from BBS to Clutch sometime in 2020. That's just from inspecting the decks I've had access to. We sell a fair amount at the shop.[close]
I follow quite a few accounts related to various woodshops and individuals who work in or run them, but this one still is up and I can send you a lot more info than I would just put on here, but yes that was definitely Clutch wood, as is the one below and yes Julio worked at BBS for a while before going to Clutch / ASF Manufacturing (as well as a pro skateboarder back in the day and had a number of successful companies too, including Neighborhood currently).
Of all the pics and info, there are very few orange tops, but this shows the much more detailed wood grain, as well as the darker orange stain.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhLHJmyjrq-/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhI3FCpjEx0/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9xZjD_lATB/[close]
I had no idea Julio De La Cruz had anything to do with Clutch. Cool.
And yeah, that's the orange. Glad I figured out what Clutch boards look like because I can pretty much identify them by photo (if it's a good enough pic). I can see the other dye colors from the Zero batch in that photo of dyed veneers too.
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Those definitely look like Clutch from the pic - the round over on Clutch boards often goes through the dye a bit, as you can see in the edges of those brown boards. It's just not as solid and consistent as BBS routing.
Apparently, from what I've heard through different sources, Clutch intentionally makes molds similar to BBS for the very reason of courting BBS customers. I agree a lot of the common Clutch boards are steeper than the average BBS deck - and another tell for Clutch is that on those steep boards there's almost no flat space in the concave - it's a constant curve from edge to edge. Most visible when you put your trucks on via the space under the corners of your baseplates.
I think I know what you mean about the pronounced woodgrain - like they're ordering a different grade. The Zero's we have, and other Clutch boards I've seen, often have streaks of woodgrain that's a darker shade than the rest.
Stamping the shape code into the boards is something brands can ask to NOT have done, and I've seen Clutch decks with and without it.
I could take a photo of my orange Nonexistent deck that was Clutch, but between my camera, my computer, and your computers, who knows what shade you're really seeing. It's a darker shade than the most common BBS orange.
The reason I'm obsessing over this particular query is that I've been trying to pin down the characteristics of Clutch decks so I could identify them in the future. I finally had the chance to skate a deck that I know came from Clutch (the Nonexistent), and there were some obvious tells for me, so now it's easier for me to spot them in other brands stock. In Canada it seems like Zero went from BBS to Clutch sometime in 2020. That's just from inspecting the decks I've had access to. We sell a fair amount at the shop.[close]
I follow quite a few accounts related to various woodshops and individuals who work in or run them, but this one still is up and I can send you a lot more info than I would just put on here, but yes that was definitely Clutch wood, as is the one below and yes Julio worked at BBS for a while before going to Clutch / ASF Manufacturing (as well as a pro skateboarder back in the day and had a number of successful companies too, including Neighborhood currently).
Of all the pics and info, there are very few orange tops, but this shows the much more detailed wood grain, as well as the darker orange stain.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhLHJmyjrq-/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhI3FCpjEx0/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9xZjD_lATB/[close]
I had no idea Julio De La Cruz had anything to do with Clutch. Cool.
And yeah, that's the orange. Glad I figured out what Clutch boards look like because I can pretty much identify them by photo (if it's a good enough pic). I can see the other dye colors from the Zero batch in that photo of dyed veneers too.[close]
Do any Clutch devotees know the WB on the K6 (8.125") shape?
The K5 (8" / 14 WB) on Forged 5.6 Ventures feels like heaven. I'm desperate to find this shape but in a wider format.
And in something that is readily available.
anyone know scumcos current wood situation? are some ps and some pennswood or did they completely switch over to ps stix?
Doomsayers club wood question
Was it PS or Clutch or still at BBS?
I have tried looking but nothing is forthcoming, almost all older images of the top with BBS wood apart from the fresh drop at CCS, but the stickers are interesting and the instagram posts have some top images too.
This is the closest to current top images, so no PS laser engraving on one but looks like there is on the other...
https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/B/Q/BQ29F47-2.1612601208.jpg
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Then the one that looks like the old BBS one on this deck, but it could also be an old board too.
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https://shop.ccs.com/brand/doom-sayers
https://www.instagram.com/p/CK6_5HBlzn0/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CK3GrmhLHJV/
Has anyone bought a recent deck that's PS Stix? I'm looking online but I'm having trouble finding brands that have used them in the past. I know with the pandemic, brands have had to jump ship and use other woodshops to keep up but was just wondering if PS Stix was still doing the engraving or stickers on the top of the decks?
THAT's the Good Homey treatment, right there, yo'!Expand QuoteHas anyone bought a recent deck that's PS Stix? I'm looking online but I'm having trouble finding brands that have used them in the past. I know with the pandemic, brands have had to jump ship and use other woodshops to keep up but was just wondering if PS Stix was still doing the engraving or stickers on the top of the decks?[close]
Also a PS aficionado here. Stickers and engraving still the same, boards seem to be flowing a lot more freely lately and there's plenty on the market if you know where to look. Beware with Toy Machine/Foundation that there's still some clutch, bbs, and china wood in their lineups so I'd advise emailing before purchasing or going to a shop and checking yourself. Plan B (HLC) and Flip (clutch) don't seem to be using PS at all anymore. That being said, here's a short and in no ways definitive list of PS boards that I've found or seen recently to hopefully help you track down what you're looking for.
- Street trash/Farm which are sold through 303boards
- Strangelove (very hard to find for a reasonable price at the moment because ever since they put the dunks out all the hypebeast/reseller types snatch them up in seconds when they go live... you pretty much have to find one in a shop... best bet right now is the Bird in a Bush or ghoul punk)
- New scumco line that should be releasing this week
- Quasi
- WKND
- Snack
- Birch
Companies that you can find PS boards from but have other wood on the market as well
- Toy Machine/Foundation
- Pizza (latest run is clutch)
- Dogtown
- Welcome (I think the latest run is BBS)
That's just off the top of my head. There's definitely more I just can't think of them right this second. Hopefully you can find what you're looking for from one of them, but if not feel free to shoot me a PM with your desired measurements and concave and I'll try to find something for you.
how’s pennswood hold up compared to pstix? i’ve been skating pstix for the past two years and wanna give a reveal deck a shot
seconded, pennswood shits on ps stix imo. pop is crack, better than any other wood ive tried (including bbs) and it lasts.Expand Quotehow’s pennswood hold up compared to pstix? i’ve been skating pstix for the past two years and wanna give a reveal deck a shot[close]
Pretty much every Pennswood I’ve used lasts forever. They don’t snap on me, and keep their pop for the entire time I have the decks.
seconded, pennswood shits on ps stix imo. pop is crack, better than any other wood ive tried (including bbs) and it lasts.Expand QuoteExpand Quotehow’s pennswood hold up compared to pstix? i’ve been skating pstix for the past two years and wanna give a reveal deck a shot[close]
Pretty much every Pennswood I’ve used lasts forever. They don’t snap on me, and keep their pop for the entire time I have the decks.[close]
definitely recommend. shame they dont press for more brands but if thats keeping the product a1 then so be it
if reveal is without a doubt pennswood im buying in
I thought PS always says PS....I assume BBS....
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8" Habitat on BBS wood. 14" WB , pretty squared off shape similar to FA/ Older Habitat /AWS
pretty psyched to skate these.
Anybody knows where Sex skateboards & blaze supply are made? Getting my friend a board for his bday
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191998822880
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202561485626
anyone have even the slightest inclination as to who might be pressing these? not really much to go off other than "7 ply canadian maple" and a list of dimensions. no sticker on top ply, small indent on the bottom between the front truck holes.
Expand Quotehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191998822880
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202561485626
anyone have even the slightest inclination as to who might be pressing these? not really much to go off other than "7 ply canadian maple" and a list of dimensions. no sticker on top ply, small indent on the bottom between the front truck holes.[close]
I recognise some of those shaped boards as the same as an AU distributor here gets in, reasonable wood quality overall, made in a woodshop in China I believe, which is a bulk processor of blanks to big wholesale accounts, more than anything.
Just because I am not a fan doesn't mean others don't like them a lot and ride them because they are cheap and they have held up better than some other woodshop boards.
Concave varies between a few different boards, especially when you look at the shaped boards pics, but overall I would say they are medium / straight tails (no spoon concave) and would feel similar to Dwindle wood in concave more than anything else.
Looking at this pic they are decent shapes, but looking at the concave they all look kinda weird though...
Special = all their normal concave, same as all their regular popsicle decks
Nose = the coffin shape with mellow concave and the only one not in the special concave I had seen.
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