I almost wonder if they steered the topic away from the departure from enjoi because it so mirrored the way he left crail: basically got spun, lost his shit, decided "fuck it" & bailed without communicating to anyone. MJ sounds like an invaluable asset to a company up til the point he burns out, freaks out & bails with no warning. I guess you take the bitter with the sweet when you hire this dude.
But fuck all that - how the hell can you have Marc fucking Johnson on the show & ask so little about SKATEBOARDING? Maybe I'm alone on this & everyone really wants to hear another tedious retracing of a dude's arc through the industry, babbling about shoe designs, business, etc. but man I would LOVE to turn this show over to Kelly for an episode (or anyone who's a genuine skate rat) and ask the kinda questions skate rats want to hear.
There's so many tricks from MJs parts I'd love to hear stories about: how long did this take to land? What's your technique for that trick? Tell me about how you even thought of doing that combo? My ears pricked up when Roberts asked if he was skating lately - I love hearing about what dudes are up to skate-wise, what tricks they're working on, how skating is feeling to them lately, etc. But of course that didn't go anywhere since Roberts really just wants to talk industry shit.
Oh well, still a fascinating watch. MJ sounds like kind of a mess, but I feel for a lot of what he's struggled with. And he's one of the greatest to ever step on a plank.