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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: NickDagger on August 23, 2007, 05:51:37 PM
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Okay, I was banned supposedly because I talked about this in every thread. So lets see if freedom of speech is still cool on tha slap board.
I was only asking questions about something that happened, that i've heard tid bits about from multiple sources, including Big Brother, and the following listed below:
'The Danny Way story'
Danny Way, Josh Swindell, and Steven Matus were at a bar in LA. They were drunk. They some how came into contact with the Keith Ogden, who was homosexual. There was an altercation. At then end Mr. Ogden was dead with a cinderblock to the head. Swindell claims the Ogden was really drunk, had a gun, and kept coming-on to Swindell and the others. Swindell admits to hitting Ogden. However, Swindell claims that Ogden had a pre-exisitng head injury that lead to his death. Without this injury, I guess it would have just been a "normal" gay bashing. The other side of the story was that Swindell and crew were out looking to beat up someone who was gay. Danny Way was never charged with anything but I believe he was at the trial.
There were various stories on this event and trial in other mags, but never in any major skate publications. Strange huh? I'm sure people on here will poke holes in this or deny Way's involvement, but he was there and it's WELL known that Swindell took the heat to protect him. There's also the Big Brother interview with Way who gets VERY angry when asked about the possibility of his son being gay...and him going off on the subject.
Yes, he is Mr. Megaramp / Great Wall of China / HardRock superstar...but he's the worst kind of jock. It's funny how skateboarders spend so much time talking about how superior they are in all ways but still can't get past this issue. With all the anti-jock talk, it seems ironic how much of a boys club skateboarding can be.
Now let the homophobic comments fly...I'm not going to be surprised.
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http://www.outsports.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37796 (http://www.outsports.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37796)
On July 7, 1993 part of my world collapsed. That was the day Keith Ogden died.
It was the first (reported) gay-bashing-murder to hit the skateboard world. Worse, the one skater I idolized was some how involved. You may have heard of him, as he is quite famous. His name is Danny Way.
The facts were in dispute. However, a jury found that Josh Swindell was guilty of a second-degree hate crime murder*. He is now in jail for life.
Word on the street was that Danny, Josh, and Steven Matus were out in L.A. somewhere. They were drunk. They some how came into contact with the Keith Ogden. There was an altercation. At then end Mr. Ogden was dead. Swindell claims the Ogden was really drunk, had a gun, and kept coming-on to Swindell and the others. Swindell admits to hitting Ogden. However, Swindell claims that Ogden had a pre-exisitng head injury that lead to his death. Without this injury, I guess it would have just been a "normal" gay bashing. The other side of the story was that Swindell and crew were out looking to beat up someone who was gay. Either way, he killed someone. As far as I know, Danny Way was never charged with anything, and I do not know the extent of his involvement. However, it is known that he was there.
I skated with Danny Way earlier that winter at the now defunct Z.T. Maximus Skatepark in Cambridge, MA. He was on tour with Alphonzo Rawls, and the two stopped by. Danny was my childhood hero and favorite skater. I tried to skate like him, had a zillion pictures of him on bedroom wall, rode his pro model board, etc. I also had a huge crush on him. It was looking at picture him, that I first realized I was "gay." Now, here was, some how involved with a gay-bash-murder. My closet couldn't have been deeper.
*That article is quite dated, and should be noted that Mike Vallely is still a professional skateboarder in 2007.
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http://hrc.org/Content/NavigationMenu/HRC/Get_Informed/Issues/Hate_Crimes1/Background_Information5/decade_violence.pdf (http://hrc.org/Content/NavigationMenu/HRC/Get_Informed/Issues/Hate_Crimes1/Background_Information5/decade_violence.pdf)
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I have no idea what happened, and apparently no one else does either. I'm a bit unsure why it's taboo to ask questions.
Someone said they knew for a fact that Danny wasn't even there and was in fact passed out at the bar while it happened. If thats so tell us how you know this. So we can put it to rest.
Who's afraid of truth?
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No, you weren't "asking questions".
You were fucking spamming the board with pointless posts.
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i doubt anyone here can help clarify the matter much more than the articles youve posted. what do you expect? some detectives to be posting here, or for d.way to come tell you all about it?
try to post on other topics for awhile. why test the moderators' patience by going on about this topic over and over and over and over, when you dont actually have anything substantive to contribute to it?
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Okay, I was banned supposedly because I talked about this in every thread. So lets see if freedom of speech is still cool on tha slap board.
I was only asking questions about something that happened, that i've heard tid bits about from multiple sources, including Big Brother, and the following listed below:
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'The Danny Way story'
Danny Way, Josh Swindell, and Steven Matus were at a bar in LA. They were drunk. They some how came into contact with the Keith Ogden, who was homosexual. There was an altercation. At then end Mr. Ogden was dead with a cinderblock to the head. Swindell claims the Ogden was really drunk, had a gun, and kept coming-on to Swindell and the others. Swindell admits to hitting Ogden. However, Swindell claims that Ogden had a pre-exisitng head injury that lead to his death. Without this injury, I guess it would have just been a "normal" gay bashing. The other side of the story was that Swindell and crew were out looking to beat up someone who was gay. Danny Way was never charged with anything but I believe he was at the trial.
There were various stories on this event and trial in other mags, but never in any major skate publications. Strange huh? I'm sure people on here will poke holes in this or deny Way's involvement, but he was there and it's WELL known that Swindell took the heat to protect him. There's also the Big Brother interview with Way who gets VERY angry when asked about the possibility of his son being gay...and him going off on the subject.
Yes, he is Mr. Megaramp / Great Wall of China / HardRock superstar...but he's the worst kind of jock. It's funny how skateboarders spend so much time talking about how superior they are in all ways but still can't get past this issue. With all the anti-jock talk, it seems ironic how much of a boys club skateboarding can be.
Now let the homophobic comments fly...I'm not going to be surprised.
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http://www.outsports.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37796
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On July 7, 1993 part of my world collapsed. That was the day Keith Ogden died.
It was the first (reported) gay-bashing-murder to hit the skateboard world. Worse, the one skater I idolized was some how involved. You may have heard of him, as he is quite famous. His name is Danny Way.
The facts were in dispute. However, a jury found that Josh Swindell was guilty of a second-degree hate crime murder*. He is now in jail for life.
Word on the street was that Danny, Josh, and Steven Matus were out in L.A. somewhere. They were drunk. They some how came into contact with the Keith Ogden. There was an altercation. At then end Mr. Ogden was dead. Swindell claims the Ogden was really drunk, had a gun, and kept coming-on to Swindell and the others. Swindell admits to hitting Ogden. However, Swindell claims that Ogden had a pre-exisitng head injury that lead to his death. Without this injury, I guess it would have just been a "normal" gay bashing. The other side of the story was that Swindell and crew were out looking to beat up someone who was gay. Either way, he killed someone. As far as I know, Danny Way was never charged with anything, and I do not know the extent of his involvement. However, it is known that he was there.
I skated with Danny Way earlier that winter at the now defunct Z.T. Maximus Skatepark in Cambridge, MA. He was on tour with Alphonzo Rawls, and the two stopped by. Danny was my childhood hero and favorite skater. I tried to skate like him, had a zillion pictures of him on bedroom wall, rode his pro model board, etc. I also had a huge crush on him. It was looking at picture him, that I first realized I was "gay." Now, here was, some how involved with a gay-bash-murder. My closet couldn't have been deeper.
*That article is quite dated, and should be noted that Mike Vallely is still a professional skateboarder in 2007.
and
http://hrc.org/Content/NavigationMenu/HRC/Get_Informed/Issues/Hate_Crimes1/Background_Information5/decade_violence.pdf
and more...
I have no idea what happened, and apparently no one else does either. I'm a bit unsure why it's taboo to ask questions.
Someone said they knew for a fact that Danny wasn't even there and was in fact passed out at the bar while it happened. If thats so tell us how you know this. So we can put it to rest.
Who's afraid of truth?
Danny Way is innocent dude. Ronnie Bertino was there and called me at 5 am that morning. He told me what happened. Danny is innocent and would have never approved of that.
Danny Way doesn't deserve this. I've heard some really rotten things about him and his youth but when he sponsored me I got to know him. He's the chillest dude and his jockness is actually funny, in a good way. He has a big heart that many people haven't seen. And he's such force that you can't help but to want to listen to Slayer and be into whatever he's into. THE BEST VERT SKATER EVER!!!!!!!!!!
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No, you weren't "asking questions".
You were fucking spamming the board with pointless posts.
For real.
Okay, I was banned supposedly because I talked about this in every thread. So lets see if freedom of speech is still cool on tha slap board.
Didn't you know that the Slap boards originated in the Middle East? Apparently, they're really into Ricky Oyola and Bobby Puleo, which explains a lot of the things you read here. So watch your fucking mouth before you start your free speech bullshit.
By the way, that was a fucking quick 30 days.
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Danny Way is innocent dude. Ronnie Bertino was there and called me at 5 am that morning. He told me what happened. Danny is innocent and would have never approved of that.
What happened then?
I've heard 7 different versions.
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http://hrc.org/Content/NavigationMenu/HRC/Get_Informed/Issues/Hate_Crimes1/Background_Information5/decade_violence.pdf
A Guy me and Mike went to Jr High with is on that list. It wasn't a gay bashing but he called him a fag while beating him up. Dude died and appartently
The da was up for re election so now he's serving life I think. It really should have been just manslaughter. His name is Edgar. Can't think of his last name
but he's on that list. I seen it before.
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chris cole did this warming up.
that was a fucking quick 30 days.
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On July 7, 1993 part of my world collapsed. That was the day Keith Ogden died.
It was the first (reported) gay-bashing-murder to hit the skateboard world. Worse, the one skater I idolized was some how involved. You may have heard of him, as he is quite famous. His name is Danny Way.
The facts were in dispute. However, a jury found that Josh Swindell was guilty of a second-degree hate crime murder*. He is now in jail for life.
Word on the street was that Danny, Josh, and Steven Matus were out in L.A. somewhere. They were drunk. They some how came into contact with the Keith Ogden. There was an altercation. At then end Mr. Ogden was dead. Swindell claims the Ogden was really drunk, had a gun, and kept coming-on to Swindell and the others. Swindell admits to hitting Ogden. However, Swindell claims that Ogden had a pre-exisitng head injury that lead to his death. Without this injury, I guess it would have just been a "normal" gay bashing. The other side of the story was that Swindell and crew were out looking to beat up someone who was gay. Either way, he killed someone. As far as I know, Danny Way was never charged with anything, and I do not know the extent of his involvement. However, it is known that he was there.
I skated with Danny Way earlier that winter at the now defunct Z.T. Maximus Skatepark in Cambridge, MA. He was on tour with Alphonzo Rawls, and the two stopped by. Danny was my childhood hero and favorite skater. I tried to skate like him, had a zillion pictures of him on bedroom wall, rode his pro model board, etc. I also had a huge crush on him. It was looking at picture him, that I first realized I was "gay." Now, here was, some how involved with a gay-bash-murder. My closet couldn't have been deeper.
*That article is quite dated, and should be noted that Mike Vallely is still a professional skateboarder in 2007.
Wait a minute... Mike V wrote that? I thought he had a wife?
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Wait a minute... Mike V wrote that? I thought he had a wife?
nah check the link above it, thats referring to an article the story is linked to.
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Danny Way is innocent dude. Ronnie Bertino was there and called me at 5 am that morning. He told me what happened. Danny is innocent and would have never approved of that.
What happened then?
I've heard 7 different versions.
I already posted it. It was erased. I guess someone didn't want that out there, and they were right. I should have thought about that before opening my big mouth. I'll just say trust me, he didn't do it and wasn't even able to, but he was there.
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http://hrc.org/Content/NavigationMenu/HRC/Get_Informed/Issues/Hate_Crimes1/Background_Information5/decade_violence.pdf
A Guy me and Mike went to Jr High with is on that list. It wasn't a gay bashing but he called him a fag while beating him up. Dude died and appartently
The da was up for re election so now he's serving life I think. It really should have been just manslaughter. His name is Edgar. Can't think of his last name
but he's on that list. I seen it before.
you and mike v went to middle school together?
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so over this
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http://hrc.org/Content/NavigationMenu/HRC/Get_Informed/Issues/Hate_Crimes1/Background_Information5/decade_violence.pdf
A Guy me and Mike went to Jr High with is on that list. It wasn't a gay bashing but he called him a fag while beating him up. Dude died and appartently
The da was up for re election so now he's serving life I think. It really should have been just manslaughter. His name is Edgar. Can't think of his last name
but he's on that list. I seen it before.
you and mike v went to middle school together?
im pretty sure he means carroll
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Listening to Limp Wrist at the moment.
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No, you weren't "asking questions".
You were fucking spamming the board with pointless posts.
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Yes, he is Mr. Megaramp / Great Wall of China / HardRock superstar...but he's the worst kind of jock. It's funny how skateboarders spend so much time talking about how superior they are in all ways but still can't get past this issue. With all the anti-jock talk, it seems ironic how much of a boys club skateboarding can be.
he did all this stuff way after 93
so i'm sure that has nothing to do with it
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i can't read, well at least all the shit.
so ok
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Danny Way is innocent dude. Ronnie Bertino was there and called me at 5 am that morning. He told me what happened. Danny is innocent and would have never approved of that.
What happened then?
I've heard 7 different versions.
I already posted it. It was erased. I guess someone didn't want that out there, and they were right. I should have thought about that before opening my big mouth. I'll just say trust me, he didn't do it and wasn't even able to, but he was there.
Well I appreciate you putting it out there, even if someone's deleting it for some reason.
I'd love to hear it though, i'll drop it forever if I can get the real story from a reliable source.
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No, you weren't "asking questions".
You were fucking spamming the board with pointless posts.
No, thats what I was doing for like a few hours, then I starting discussing the issue seriously...and THEN was banned.
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Either way, Swindell killed a gay dude, fucked up. Someone reliable please just clear it up so we can all be over the incident. Sanch, set the record straight.
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so Danny way killed a gay guy ?
joking, but thanks for clearing up what the hell you were spamming about dagger, i just joined recently and thought it was some stupid running joke.
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It was looking at picture of him, that I first realized I was "gay."
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Either way, Swindell killed a gay dude, fucked up. Someone reliable please just clear it up so we can all be over the incident. Sanch, set the record straight.
Swindell killed a gay dude, fucked up.
There's nothing really much else to say. You guys are like a group of sharks and I aint throwing Danny overboard. ;) Nah really, that's pretty much it in a nut shell.
Danny WAS NOT participating in the jump nor condoned it.
I guess I could feed you guys a little chum... Apparently, later that night, Swindel knocked on the door of on the guys' house who was involved and was covered with blood from head to toe. I heard from his knees down it was solid blood and above that was smears and splatter. He was the one who used the cinder block and heard they MAY have even matched his sneaker tread to the impressions on his face. Anyways, the guys mom answered the door and thought he was injured. As soon as she realized he was not hurt at all she slammed the door. The guy had already left town. I guess there was some other guys there too. Some mexican gangster guys or maybe it was just that other guy, not sure. Danny had the white monster truck that night and am sure he wouldn't have taken those mexican gangsters there. They were friends of Swindell.When Josh came out from the mexican prison he acted like he was a mexican gangster and supposively hung out with a lot of them after being released. When a guy does hard time it changes you. He was just on another level of madness. Anyways, I heard you guys saying Josh was trying to implicate Danny so... Just wanted to back him. Where'd you guys hear this about Josh implicating Danny?
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Thanks Sanch, hopefully everyone can be over the whole thing.
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Fuck, useless knowledge now. Just wanted no doubts about Danny's role. Dude helped me out a lot. And yeah, he's like the Sheckler of vert. But ya gotta understand his earlier years were just raw footage and pretty much clowning Tony Hawk. Foo straight embarassed T. Mag in the old H st. vid when they did doubles doing the same trick. ;D Countless parts that were all good. Breaks his neck and becomes evil Kenevil. Dude is my all my time greatest vert skating legend. His airs were the best ever. His backside Indy's and backside airs were off the chain.
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no one will ever know so give it up. as much as i like danny way for being gnar as fuck i wouldnt right anything off. booze makes people do stupid shit, and bad shit happens regardless of whether that person is goodhearted or not. lets just go on facts, josh swindell from what i heard is a complete bag of shit. danny way seems like a solid dude, the math speaks for itself. i dannys guilty of anything its hanging out with shit bags not murdering gay people.
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No, you weren't "asking questions".
You were fucking spamming the board with pointless posts.
No, thats what I was doing for like a few hours, then I starting discussing the issue seriously...and THEN was banned.
No. You were posting the same message in every single topic you possibly could and you expected to get an honest answer. If you would have started this topic instead of spamming every other topic, then you wouldn't have been banned.
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. THE BEST VERT SKATER EVER!!!!!!!!!!
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C'mon bornidabay, shit, he had some street skills.....he used to kill it....
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. THE BEST VERT SKATER EVER!!!!!!!!!!
C'mon bornidabay, shit, he had some street skills.....he used to kill it....
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bs 360 macba 4. real sick shit. i wonder if that was before or after he killed the gay guy.
sike
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FUCK....in NO WAY SHAPE OR FOR did i mean it to sound like that...ive had a few beers, and i was ONLY referring to his STREET SKATING ....i apologize if anyone took in that sense...i have nothing but the deepest respect for dway....i'm sorry, i'm out....i feel really bad...
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Listening to Limp Wrist at the moment.
fuck yeah
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FUCK....in NO WAY SHAPE OR FOR did i mean it to sound like that...ive had a few beers, and i was ONLY referring to his STREET SKATING ....i apologize if anyone took in that sense...i have nothing but the deepest respect for dway....i'm sorry, i'm out....i feel really bad...
you're drunk, i don't think anyone took it in a bad way. D. Way as street skills, there is no doubt. i just wish we'd see more of them.
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Way would have done some hard time if he participated in a beating, even if only a minor role, that lead to a man's death.
Jay Adams, on the other hand, participated (albeit, a minor role) in a gaybashing incident which eventually led to a man's death. He only did a few months. Then again, back in the early '80s that kind of stuff was less frowned upon--the bashing, that is.
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homeboy back in 2000 was building an amazing garden at his house,, he used to update me from time to time,,, behind what he does on a skateboard? the dude excels at anything he touches,, he would also be a fucking fantastic rythm guitarist in a thrash metal band for sure..
that being said,, i dont believe any of those articles,, i would rather take the info from a close word of mouth (i.e. snach) then some over hyped news report,,im sure danny did some shit when he was younger,, most have to an extent,, but this story sounds like some wierd altercation and it loosely places way at the scene let alone apart of it,,,if swindell was knee deep in shit at the time? i could easily see him trying to pass the rap on someone else even on danny,,,shit!! when i was 20 an old friend of mine showed up to a place i was at, i hadnt seen him in at least a year,, anyways, i asked him to give me a ride back to my place at the end of the night,, he ended up crashing the car (which i found out later was a jacked car) it sent me to the hospital.. and thousands upon thousands of dollars in healthcare insurance i had my face back and my skull glue back together,(due to the crash) i was realesed to find out that the car was a theft and the police were laughing because my friend tried to tell them that i was driving the car,, even though ,, i had a seriouse right shoulder bruise and the fact that hee had the "jeep" logo in dented in his chest,,, rumors are rumors,, whatever happened? happened,, dont defame danny though,, you dont know him,, hell? i hardley know him...in a shorter term,, dont make assumptions
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I have no idea what happened, and apparently no one else does either. I'm a bit unsure why it's taboo to ask questions.
Someone said they knew for a fact that Danny wasn't even there and was in fact passed out at the bar while it happened. If thats so tell us how you know this. So we can put it to rest.
Who's afraid of truth?
It's taboo to ask questions because it's probably very insulting and upsetting to the people involved. It's called tact.
It was me who brought up the fact that Danny was passed out at the time. It was reported in Big Brother not long after it happened and this fact was brought up to show that he was not involved.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that this sort of thing would have warranted a huge investigation and trial. The fact that he was found not to be involved during THAT would be my proof more so than the hearsay, rumours and third hand information that you seem to be dredging up to base your assumptions and accusations on.
You really need to let it go.
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homeboy back in 2000 was building an amazing garden at his house,, he used to update me from time to time,,, behind what he does on a skateboard? the dude excels at anything he touches,, he would also be a fucking fantastic rythm guitarist in a thrash metal band for sure..
That's so true. Koston is like that too. Danny was a pretty sick motor crosser before the neck injury too. He rode with "moto" pros and I think at least got flowed in motocross. Was a pro snowboarder like overnight. Was featured in surf videos surfing. I think he won some xtreme game triathalon. I know- I know. Just trying to show he's good at whatever he touches. Didn't say he wasn't a jock.
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whos going to slayer this weekend?
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I listened to Reign In Blood this morning. It's what 20 or so years old? I've listened to it countless times since the early '90's and it still gets me so pumped (not sheckles style).
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I like south of heaven. That shit is like a gallon of energy drink.
Metallica made me hyped too. OF COURSE EARLIER METALICA.
I hope they come back. They were always glam and that was the problem.
It only got worse and more cheesy.
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I listened to Reign In Blood this morning. It's what 20 or so years old? I've listened to it countless times since the early '90's and it still gets me so pumped (not sheckles style).
I would Reign in Blood is the best music to listen to while skating a backyard mini ramp with a couple of beers in me.
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I like south of heaven. That shit is like a gallon of energy drink.
Metallica made me hyped too. OF COURSE EARLIER METALICA.
I hope they come back. They were always glam and that was the problem.
It only got worse and more cheesy.
It's funny, I always pictured the EMB crew smokin blunts and bumpin to hip hop but there you were heshin out.
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I like south of heaven. That shit is like a gallon of energy drink.
Metallica made me hyped too. OF COURSE EARLIER METALICA.
I hope they come back. They were always glam and that was the problem.
It only got worse and more cheesy.
It's funny, I always pictured the EMB crew smokin blunts and bumpin to hip hop but there you were heshin out.
I liked both. I got my early rock influences from Real. I was listening to a lot of ACDC then, which seemed like the Real
skateboards band. Also was listening to Rbl, 415, Coug-nut, too short, and of course a lot of stuff out of the bay. I hated
Slayer but after being forced to listen to it enough times you end up knowing the song order and liking certain songs.
Slayer is pretty sick. But no, there was no eye opening transformation into tight pants.
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Huh, I always thought NickDagger was just trying to be random and funny when he was doing that shit.
Nick, I saw this thing on irakny the other day; it was statistics. Between 2001 and 2005, approximately 3000 Americans died from terrorism. During that same time, something llike 4 million Americans died from smoking-related illnesses and heart disease. Maybe you should start fighting cigarettes and mcdonals:
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I listened to Reign In Blood this morning. It's what 20 or so years old? I've listened to it countless times since the early '90's and it still gets me so pumped (not sheckles style).
yeah i agree but my favorite is still seasons in the abyss...war ensamble, dead skin mask, tt......best by far in my eyes
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word of mouth (i.e. snach)
funny typo, can we call you snack?
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I listened to Reign In Blood this morning. It's what 20 or so years old? I've listened to it countless times since the early '90's and it still gets me so pumped (not sheckles style).
yup, we listened to it at work yesterday. was looking at the inlay book and was stunned it was 1990. stupid long ago.
i was at the concert for the war ensemble vid.
*cmoac*
someone told me they were splitting up?
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i like "the decade of agression disc1-2" from 92, slayer was at there peak at that point,, one of the best live recordings ever, imo.
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I listened to Reign In Blood this morning. It's what 20 or so years old? I've listened to it countless times since the early '90's and it still gets me so pumped (not sheckles style).
yup, we listened to it at work yesterday. was looking at the inlay book and was stunned it was 1990. stupid long ago.
i was at the concert for the war ensemble vid.
*cmoac*
someone told me they were splitting up?
Your avatar and response made me think of this
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I am still laughing at Henry saying back side Indy, that is the only Indy air. :)
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i hate slayer. i think they are extremely over-rated.
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i hate slayer. i think they are extremely over-rated.
you are alone on that one...although I dont like anything ne they put out..christ illusion was a big a-a-a-a.....meh
and BB, respect
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BB, respect
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i hate slayer. i think they are extremely over-rated.
and BB, respect
a few of my friends don't like them. we just listened to their songs and realized it's the same five notes over and over. and i saw them live and they have a horrible stage presence. the only song i can listen to is "seasons in the abyss" because it reminds me of gilley's part in labelkills.
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You saw Slayer live and say they have a horrible stage prescence?
Are you fucking kidding or just really, really dumb?
I guess that's your opinion, but I'm super into metal and have seen tons upon tons of shows over the years and Slayer blows fucking doors on anybody live that I can think of 'til this day. Bar none.
They have been doing it for like 25 years and still blow anybody and everybody off the map, its not even close.
Trust me, I just saw them like 7 months ago and they destroyed it from note one until the last encore, truly a mesemerizing experience of shock and awe.
But let's get back to Danny Way.
As much as I like the guy, when he was younger I heard he was a real jackass.
Apparently shot a horse with a shotgun.
But you didn't hear that from me.
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No, you weren't "asking questions".
You were fucking spamming the board with pointless posts.
You know your annoying when JT says your spamming (much of which is about Cole) sucks.
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(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/veganshawn/Slayer001.jpg)
This hangs beside me when I am on the computer and it gives me power to overcome the hate of North Carolina.
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No, you weren't "asking questions".
You were fucking spamming the board with pointless posts.
If it's so annoying stop posting in this thread and it'll go away you fucking idiot.
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No, you weren't "asking questions".
You were fucking spamming the board with pointless posts.
If it's so annoying stop posting in this thread and it'll go away you fucking idiot.
kook'd. I thought you had learned something today but I suppose not.
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come on, relax everybody ;D
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So, according to DickNagger, if I stop posting in this thread than all of his previous spam will go away?
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you kids care to much
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you kids care to much
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How about more stories of lactating MILFs with clit rings? anyone?
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i got down with a girl who used to have a clitring, like the hole was sorta there, it was weird
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You saw Slayer live and say they have a horrible stage prescence?
Are you fucking kidding or just really, really dumb?
I guess that's your opinion, but I'm super into metal and have seen tons upon tons of shows over the years and Slayer blows fucking doors on anybody live that I can think of 'til this day. Bar none.
They have been doing it for like 25 years and still blow anybody and everybody off the map, its not even close.
Trust me, I just saw them like 7 months ago and they destroyed it from note one until the last encore, truly a mesemerizing experience of shock and awe.
they didn't really do anything. they just stood there, no headbanging or anything. the lights were messed up so all you could see was kerry king and the bassist/singer (i can't think of his name and i'm too lazy to look it up and i know i'd misspell it if i tried). maybe it was just a bad day, who knows? i'm really into metal too, but i'm not a huge thrash metal fan and i never could really get into slayer ever in my life. and i believe that they kicked ass at your show, but when i saw them they didn't. to me, all their songs sound they same and i really can not stand kerry king's shitty whammy bar guitar solos. i know it's heresy to say anything bad about them, but sorry-they just don't do anything for me.
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I got kook'd because I said calm down?
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I got kook'd because I said calm down?
you get a gnar just because thats regular
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i think dagger is a dick but...
ive heard this rumour too (outside of slap)...
probably just circumstance, right?
but whats that about a horse!
also: angel of death. slayer were so good live (15 odd years ago...)
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I have scanned the article Josh Swindell wrote in 1992 for Big Brother (#10) about the murder, which is a quite interesting read, but I can't get it down to below 128 KB and still readable. Does anybody have a suggestion? I aint gonna type it over.
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I have scanned the article Josh Swindell wrote in 1992 for Big Brother (#10) about the murder, which is a quite interesting read, but I can't get it down to below 128 KB and still readable. Does anybody have a suggestion? I aint gonna type it over.
Anyone on here willing to retype it? How about someone at work who sits at a computer anyhoo. Someone volunteer, email it them, wah lah.
Yeah and no doubt, what's the deal with the horse? Can anyone credible speak on it?
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Just upload it to yousendit or something similar...
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Ok here is the Big Brother article from 1992, in B/W. I have no particular interest in the subject myself, but I find it very funny that something that was news 15 years ago suddenly is a hot topic on the Slap boards.
BTW, anybody remembers those Droors 'Free Swindell' T-shirts when he was arrested in Mexico with guns? I wonder why they didn't make those shirts the second time he was behind bars....
This is the link:
http://download.yousendit.com/E46C743B2DFA90DD
PS this link expires after 7 days and/or 100 downloads, so if anybody with brains can copy it into the thread it would be even better.
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Ok here is the Big Brother article from 1992, in B/W. I have no particular interest in the subject myself, but I find it very funny that something that was news 15 years ago suddenly is a hot topic on the Slap boards.
BTW, anybody remembers those Droors 'Free Swindell' T-shirts when he was arrested in Mexico with guns? I wonder why they didn't make those shirts the second time he was behind bars....
This is the link:
http://download.yousendit.com/E46C743B2DFA90DD
PS this link expires after 7 days and/or 100 downloads, so if anybody with brains can copy it into the thread it would be even better.
that article was kind of sad...dude thought he was gonna be out in a few months...
and did Chris Pontius' mom own Cheap Skates? isn't that the same shop that turned into CCS?
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In hindsight, Swindell sounds like a crybaby. I think this should effectively end the Danny Way "kills gay people" bullshit. I didn't see him cry for an extra run during that X-Games...
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I suppose Danny doesn't hang around gay dudes pretty much, but I'm sure he won't kill them either.
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Name: NickDagger
Posts: 515 (3.433 per day)
Position: Hero Member
Rep: -44
Date Registered: March 29, 2007, 03:46:47 pm
Last Active: Today at 01:46:02 pm
Ignored by: 11 members
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Rep: -44
Date Registered: March 29, 2007, 03:46:47 pm
Last Active: Today at 01:46:02 pm
Ignored by: 11 members
Who's stats?
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Rep: -44
Date Registered: March 29, 2007, 03:46:47 pm
Last Active: Today at 01:46:02 pm
Ignored by: 11 members
Who's stats?
It's dicknaggers sorry.
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^ haha, i thought i was bad at 6 but 11 harsh.
soon he'll surpass my -77 kook rating then i'll be really bummed.
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soon he'll surpass my -77 kook rating then i'll be really bummed.
Pretty sure Kev already beat you to it.
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I skated a miniramp/park in atlanta after the Vox/Traffic demo this weekend with:
Bobby Puleo
Ricky Olyola
Dan Plunkett
Justin Brock
and about 20 more.
then after the demo justin brock and david clarke invited us to stay at their place and we partied and stayed there for the weekend
so really, i don't give a shit
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I skated a miniramp/park in atlanta after the Vox/Traffic demo this weekend with:
Bobby Puleo
Ricky Olyola
Dan Plunkett
Justin Brock
and about 20 more.
then after the demo justin brock and david clarke invited us to stay at their place and we partied and stayed there for the weekend
so really, i don't give a shit
What'd all those guys think about Danny Way?
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I skated a miniramp/park in atlanta after the Vox/Traffic demo this weekend with:
Bobby Puleo
Ricky Olyola
Dan Plunkett
Justin Brock
and about 20 more.
then after the demo justin brock and david clarke invited us to stay at their place and we partied and stayed there for the weekend
so really, i don't give a shit
You lyin'.
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You lyin'.
nope.
it was sick
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nope.
it was sick
I hope none of your fagism rubbed off on them, i'd hate you forever if you tainted any of them.
now go shove something in your ass.
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then after the demo justin brock and david clarke invited us to stay at their place and we partied and stayed there for the weekend
so really, i don't give a shit
No fucking way! That's awesome!
Kook'd.
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then after the demo justin brock and david clarke invited us to stay at their place and we partied and stayed there for the weekend
so really, i don't give a shit
No fucking way! That's awesome!
Kook'd.
hahhahah
gnar'd
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then after the demo justin brock and david clarke invited us to stay at their place and we partied and stayed there for the weekend
so really, i don't give a shit
No fucking way! That's awesome!
Kook'd.
cool bro
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sorry to bring this up again but i was reading an old big brother yesterday. it's the "dad's" issue. they ask danny what he would do if his son turned out gay. he says, "my son would not be gay. obvioulsy there's something wrong with the picture if a kid grows up and becomes gay."
what the fuck?
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"Good times, bad times..."
I've a lot of respect for Danny Way - the way he lipslid the Pat Duffy double kink in Questionable whilst calling out about going to lunch was pretty amazing!
I'm sure, from everything I've heard at the time and since, that Danny did not lay a finger on that guy. Though I *have* heard interesting stories about him - Tas Pappas told me a couple about what happened when Platinum went down, though I've only heard one side of those stories so can't judge for sure - and won't repeat them because of that..
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"Good times, bad times..."
I've a lot of respect for Danny Way - the way he lipslid the Pat Duffy double kink in Questionable whilst calling out about going to lunch was pretty amazing!
I'm sure, from everything I've heard at the time and since, that Danny did not lay a finger on that guy. Though I *have* heard interesting stories about him - Tas Pappas told me a couple about what happened when Platinum went down, though I've only heard one side of those stories so can't judge for sure - and won't repeat them because of that..
Lame... "I've got this great story, but I can't tell you." Attention seeker.
If you've only got one side of the story then put it out there, and preface it like "this is just what I heard, only one side of the story."
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"Good times, bad times..."
I've a lot of respect for Danny Way - the way he lipslid the Pat Duffy double kink in Questionable whilst calling out about going to lunch was pretty amazing!
I'm sure, from everything I've heard at the time and since, that Danny did not lay a finger on that guy. Though I *have* heard interesting stories about him - Tas Pappas told me a couple about what happened when Platinum went down, though I've only heard one side of those stories so can't judge for sure - and won't repeat them because of that..
Not really relevant, but Danny did a boardslide down the Duffy rail in questionable.
He did have a lipslide slam in the slam section.
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Not really relevant, but Danny did a boardslide down the Duffy rail in questionable.
He did have a lipslide slam in the slam section.
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My bad.. damn I must have been tired when posting yesterday!
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Lame... "I've got this great story, but I can't tell you." Attention seeker.
If you've only got one side of the story then put it out there, and preface it like "this is just what I heard, only one side of the story."
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Tsk... reading this thread just made me think of some old stories I heard and so I mentioned that, it was more flow-of-consciousness than calculated but yes next time I'll stay quiet.
Fine, from one side of the story, I heard that there was serious physical beef between Danny and Tas over Platinum, and that there were situations like Danny turning up at Tas's house with a truck full of guys ready to get physical etc etc
But that is only one side of the story - and Tas is not exactly the shy-est person in the world, so I don't know the exact truth other than those two do not have any love for each-other to say the least
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didn't Danny want to beat up Rocco when Plan B went under the first time? didn't Jesse Martinez step in to protect Rocco? I'm thinking you don't mess with the MESS.
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Lame... "I've got this great story, but I can't tell you." Attention seeker.
If you've only got one side of the story then put it out there, and preface it like "this is just what I heard, only one side of the story."
Tsk... reading this thread just made me think of some old stories I heard and so I mentioned that, it was more flow-of-consciousness than calculated but yes next time I'll stay quiet.
Fine, from one side of the story, I heard that there was serious physical beef between Danny and Tas over Platinum, and that there were situations like Danny turning up at Tas's house with a truck full of guys ready to get physical etc etc
But that is only one side of the story - and Tas is not exactly the shy-est person in the world, so I don't know the exact truth other than those two do not have any love for each-other to say the least
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If you knew Tas Pappas as well as you claim you'd know exactly why Danny would be showing up at his house with a truck load of guys.
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I travelled round some of Europe one summer quite a few years ago with him and a few others.. that was a fucking gnarly experience to say the least...(!)... and left me realising that I was a lot less fucked up than I thought I was
That's my only experience of the guy - I would never claim to have known him - but I tried, at one stage, to do an interview with him for a mag and that's how I came to hear some of his tales. The interview never got published, with the reason given being a lack of photos of him to go with it, though it may have been a bit too controversial in hindsight...
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If you knew Tas Pappas as well as you claim you'd know exactly why Danny would be showing up at his house with a truck load of guys.
wat was it
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Oh, hi Nick!
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lets be honest, you've burnt bridges if you end up only sponsored by vision street wear
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If you knew Tas Pappas as well as you claim you'd know exactly why Danny would be showing up at his house with a truck load of guys.
wat was it
Damn you're a little controversy monger aren't you? Have you considered a career in tabloid jounalism.
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"Good times, bad times..."
I've a lot of respect for Danny Way - the way he lipslid the Pat Duffy double kink in Questionable whilst calling out about going to lunch was pretty amazing!
I'm sure, from everything I've heard at the time and since, that Danny did not lay a finger on that guy. Though I *have* heard interesting stories about him - Tas Pappas told me a couple about what happened when Platinum went down, though I've only heard one side of those stories so can't judge for sure - and won't repeat them because of that..
amen. hirstyrlk. at least find something interesting (talking to the father of the thread) if you want to yap on and on about d.way. pappas turned his own brother in for coke charges. now ben has passed. life is full of horrible things. if you want to claim free speech while being a tabloid hooker, at least know what the fuck you are talking about. way has had a rough walk through life. but he has risen above all the negativity to become the legend stacy peralta banked on. if you really have a hard on for swindell, keep it on him. danny is a soldier.
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Oh, hi Nick!
a/s/l wana go private
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mega bump