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Skateboarding => PHOTOS/VIDEO => Topic started by: Babby on October 23, 2014, 10:53:04 AM
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http://www.vice.com/epicly-later-d/epicly-laterd-chocolate-part-1-666 (http://www.vice.com/epicly-later-d/epicly-laterd-chocolate-part-1-666)
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FUCK YES
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well, that "whats up with crailtap" slap thread sure worked pretty quick.
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So sick, can't wait for more.
I think a Paco viewing is in the near future, after watching this.
Loved that video.
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is it just me, or does Divine look like a middle aged black lesbian?
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is it just me, or does Divine look like a middle aged black lesbian?
It's not you.
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I have a feeling this episode is going to make we wanna be Kenny Anderson again.
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I have a feeling this episode is going to make we wanna be Kenny Anderson again.
Already had that feeling yesterday. This series is not going to help my week.
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FUCK YES
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mulder looks like an egg
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mulder looks like an egg
so does devine's head
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It sure was easy to 'make it' back in the early Chocolate days. Pretty basic tricks compared to what ams have to pull these days.
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So Sick, been waiting awhile for this one. Chocolate's always had guys with amazing style from the Og's to Gino/Keenan/Scott Johnston to right now with Marc, Jerry and Kenny
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This is a nice surprise. Looking forward to the rest
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It sure was easy to 'make it' back in the early Chocolate days. Pretty basic tricks compared to what ams have to pull these days.
shut up
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It sure was easy to 'make it' back in the early Chocolate days. Pretty basic tricks compared to what ams have to pull these days.
Pretty much. Looking back at street skating guys like Natas and Gonz weren't even good.
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It sure was easy to 'make it' back in the early Chocolate days. Pretty basic tricks compared to what ams have to pull these days.
Pretty much. Looking back at street skating guys like Natas and Gonz weren't even good.
this is 100% accurate, i mean i would have totally been pro if i was born in 71
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i hope raven and elijah watch this so they can see how badly they fit the team.
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i hope raven and elijah watch this so they can see how badly they fit the team.
it's not like they made the decision to get on... i mean yeah they didn't say no, but who would?
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I wonder if Popps will be in this..
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Damn, Mulder took feeling Chocolatey a little too literally.
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It sure was easy to 'make it' back in the early Chocolate days. Pretty basic tricks compared to what ams have to pull these days.
Pretty much. Looking back at street skating guys like Natas and Gonz weren't even good.
this is 100% accurate, i mean i would have totally been pro if i was born in 71
All 3 of you are idiots
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The Girl/Chocolate box set came out in 2007, and I remember after watching Las Nueve Vidas De Paco I felt like it was a crime that I had never heard of Gabriel Rodriguez or Paulo Diaz. Good even by today's standards, and when I saw it I was still naive and thought I wanted to flip into or out of every trick and skate handrails, but those dudes definitely helped me realize style is greater than difficulty.
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is it just me, or does Divine look like a middle aged black lesbian?
Her name is Wanda.....
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is it just me, or does Divine look like a middle aged black lesbian?
Her name is Wanda.....
has his hairline always been that far back lol
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It sure was easy to 'make it' back in the early Chocolate days. Pretty basic tricks compared to what ams have to pull these days.
Pretty much. Looking back at street skating guys like Natas and Gonz weren't even good.
this is 100% accurate, i mean i would have totally been pro if i was born in 71
I believe an idiot wouldn't recognize 2 posts of sarcasm.
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I wonder if Popps will be in this..
God, i hope not, i want this thing to be good.
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Gabriel Rodriguez looks like Deniro/Michael Showalter and was wearing a recently de-sleeved t shirt. Just a note.
Devine looks like Meep The Geek.
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Paulos nollies and switch ollies are insane even for todays standards.
It's cool how a career could span 5 years then off A few clips and photos.
Times change, excited to see the rest of this.
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This is the most coverage Daniel Castillo has had in years.
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is it just me, or does Divine look like a middle aged black lesbian?
Her name is Wanda.....
Hahaha I've always thought he looked like Wanda Sykes.
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VERY hyped for this. hope it's a long series.
Back in the day I was super into Chocolate, as I got hispanic roots myself. actually I kinda miss the old hispanic Chocolate.
also I used to wear a chocolate beanie and a hoodie pretty often and the funny thing is, in France, a lot of guys thought it was referring to hash... a lot of guys came up to me because of that haha....
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Pretty rad how Jerry is that psyched on seeing his name on a board after a 15+ year pro career..
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Tim Gavin, Daniel Castillo, and Eric Koston can go the fuck off. No one cares about any of your shit.
Koston was cool once, but now he is just a kook. Bye douche bag.
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Gabriel's part in Paco fucked up the game
no one was getting up on picnic tables like that before that part
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Chico's story was fucked, so happy everything worked out for him.
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This is gonna be great.
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i remember when I started skating everyone would say that chocolate was the ethnic version of girl. i thought it was a joke but I guess even the riders felt that way a little bit.
i couldn't get into paco when i was younger because of all the skits, i hated having to scroll through it so I would delete the file and watch yeah right or mouse instead.
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From the archives . . .
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/2lc7901.jpg)
Paco was such a good kit, untouchable styles all-around & even a pretty good Ben Sanchez part [I will defend it over his Mouse part 100%].
Paulo & Gabriel definitely get the reiteration of the proverbial "special mention"[The tailslide over the Courthouse stairs always stood out].
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/33etpo7.jpg)(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2qak7xw.jpg)
Alas, relatively excited for part deux.
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Was it true back before they switched to china wood that girl and choc used different wood shops?
They were both very flat, I know it was ps stix years ago for girl, just curious.
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Damn, Mulder took feeling Chocolatey a little too literally.
Haha yep he sure does. Ah well... I like the dude. So great to see gabriel and shamil again!
Paco is sick, but he has always scared the shit out of me...
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Was it true back before they switched to china wood that girl and choc used different wood shops?
They were both very flat, I know it was ps stix years ago for girl, just curious.
I never started caring about that stuff for years...but out of the gates I think they were different woodshops.....the way the graphics were screened even seemed different.....
It's been the same Woodshop though forever.....
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I like the part when they basically come out and say they called it chocolate because everyone was brown. Very progressive
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Paolo did more drugs than I thought.
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Paolo did more drugs than I thought.
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2qak7xw.jpg)(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2qak7xw.jpg)
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2qak7xw.jpg)(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2qak7xw.jpg)
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mulder looks like an egg
First the Devine black lesbian call, then this....I nearly spat coffee on my laptop.
Thank you.
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That was rad. Reminded me of this guy...
RICARDO CARVALHO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIqtLJMkNNQ#)
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Mike York is Chocolates equivalent to Shane Heyl
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Mike York is Chocolates equivalent to Shane Heyl
U gotta be kidding me if you comparing them on a skate level. From the beginning of Chocolate til his injury filming for hot chocolate he probably put out the most footage of anyone on the team, all at a high level.
Mike York - Las Nueve Vidas de Paco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-v0n9fSyU#)
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That was rad. Reminded me of this guy...
RICARDO CARVALHO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIqtLJMkNNQ#)
He was sick for sure. Switch krooks in Yeah Right was bonkers.
Reckon he got kicked off for that ponytail/track pants combo...?
Its pretty brutal.
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It sure was easy to 'make it' back in the early Chocolate days. Pretty basic tricks compared to what ams have to pull these days.
Pretty much. Looking back at street skating guys like Natas and Gonz weren't even good.
this is 100% accurate, i mean i would have totally been pro if i was born in 71
I believe an idiot wouldn't recognize 2 posts of sarcasm.
no way dude, he's right, I mean... look at all the legends these days, all they did were a few kickturns in the 70's and carved a bowl... bunch of bitch ass culeros if you ask me.
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I got that Chocolate Tour VHS.
But 4 wheels, Chocolate goodies like shirts and kangoorooos is almost inexistant here in Canada.
I dont know why.
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someone make a screenshot of devines face please
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please
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Mike York is Chocolates equivalent to Shane Heyl
Mike York - Las Nueve Vidas de Paco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-v0n9fSyU#)
I actually kind of agree with the Heyl comparison. I think because I always considered him like an average joe kinda skater. Nothing too magical would happen with him like other guys on the team that made me think what he did was impossible. It’s not bad really, even to this day his skating makes me feel like I can skate parallel to some of the 90's pro skaters. That and him usually always sounding obnoxious in front of the camera.
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Mike York is Chocolates equivalent to Shane Heyl
Mike York - Las Nueve Vidas de Paco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-v0n9fSyU#)
I actually kind of agree with the Heyl comparison. I think because I always considered him like an average joe kinda skater. Nothing too magical would happen with him like other guys on the team that made me think what he did was impossible. It?s not bad really, even to this day his skating makes me feel like I can skate parallel to some of the 90's pro skaters. That and him usually always sounding obnoxious in front of the camera.
I considered his Mouse part pretty magical....
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As 90s birdhouse series would have been far superior.
Are there really unanswered questions about Crailtap people care about?
See the Koston, Carroll, Beauty and the Beast, MJ, Henry, Kelch, Guy, Pops, Gino episodes.
I think people are pretty clear on the history of EMB O'Dell
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As 90s birdhouse series would have been far superior.
Are there really unanswered questions about Crailtap people care about?
See the Koston, Carroll, Beauty and the Beast, MJ, Henry, Kelch, Guy, Pops, Gino episodes.
I think people are pretty clear on the history of EMB O'Dell
i don't know, i'm curious about shamil's descent into crime, paulo's drug adventures, yorkatron getting 86'd and prolly some surprises i don't know i want to hear but i do.
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Mike York is Chocolates equivalent to Shane Heyl
Mike York - Las Nueve Vidas de Paco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-v0n9fSyU#)
I actually kind of agree with the Heyl comparison. I think because I always considered him like an average joe kinda skater. Nothing too magical would happen with him like other guys on the team that made me think what he did was impossible. It?s not bad really, even to this day his skating makes me feel like I can skate parallel to some of the 90's pro skaters. That and him usually always sounding obnoxious in front of the camera.
I considered his Mouse part pretty magical....
Mike York was a clown but not a fucking CLOWN like Shane. I would've even defended Shane until that horrid "song" with TK the other week.
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As 90s birdhouse series would have been far superior.
Are there really unanswered questions about Crailtap people care about?
See the Koston, Carroll, Beauty and the Beast, MJ, Henry, Kelch, Guy, Pops, Gino episodes.
I think people are pretty clear on the history of EMB O'Dell
Yeah I really doubt they're going to cover any of that... If they address any of it its just going to be shrugged off like "Yeah I got into some stuff blah blah" I agree on the 90's Birdhouse idea tho.. Would love to hear about the type of shit Heath and Jeremy got in to and all the Ocean Howell girl stories.
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A 90s birdhouse series would have been far superior.
Are there really unanswered questions about Crailtap people care about?
See the Koston, Carroll, Beauty and the Beast, MJ, Henry, Kelch, Guy, Pops, Gino episodes.
I think people are pretty clear on the history of EMB O'Dell
This for sure. I will definitely watch this series, but A. Many of these stories have already been told multiple times and B. I don't expect them to be too forthright, if more recent Later'd's have been any indication (See Huf).
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That was rad. Reminded me of this guy...
RICARDO CARVALHO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIqtLJMkNNQ#)
He was sick for sure. Switch krooks in Yeah Right was bonkers.
Reckon he got kicked off for that ponytail/track pants combo...?
Its pretty brutal.
Pretty sure it was visa related stuff - which sucks, because he was a nice hope for the future of Chocolate... (fits the O.G. vibe, good style, good tricks, etc) vs the vanilla-vibe that have going on currently.
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Mike York is Chocolates equivalent to Shane Heyl
Mike York - Las Nueve Vidas de Paco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-v0n9fSyU#)
I actually kind of agree with the Heyl comparison. I think because I always considered him like an average joe kinda skater. Nothing too magical would happen with him like other guys on the team that made me think what he did was impossible. It?s not bad really, even to this day his skating makes me feel like I can skate parallel to some of the 90's pro skaters. That and him usually always sounding obnoxious in front of the camera.
I considered his Mouse part pretty magical....
Say what you want about him (personally, I love me some York. He's proof that hard work and a good attitude can get you places, he has a mean frontside crooks, and he always looks to be having fun skating), but as Quartersnacks pointed out recently, "... [he's] the only first generation Girl/Choc rider to contribute a full section in literally every one of their projects that he was a part of." This is more than you can say for a lot of skaters, not just those in the Crailtap camp.
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Mike York is sick. SLAP message board fails again.
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Mike York - Mouse (1996) (HQ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56bL1IdjvFU#)
If anyone on here thinks they were skating anywhere near as good as this when it came out they are fucking tripping.
(Kalis and Karl Watson aside obviously.)
Mike York was on the OG Chocolate squad. Thats some heavy shit.
Dude is a legend.
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Mike York is sick. SLAP message board fails again.
(http://www.muckmouth.com/uploads/2/1/4/9/21496952/2389019_orig.jpg)
That's not some average joe shit.
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Mike York might not have that latino\gangsta image like OG Chocolate and Menace dudes had, but he was a really good skater and had a really good style. One of my favorites ever, I really like Mike York!
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What is Mike York's ethnicity?
His part in Yeah Right was sick too.
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What is Mike York's ethnicity?
His part in Yeah Right was sick too.
i'm not sure what sorta white he is but he's white. sounds british. he lost his pops at a young age, i remember reading that so EMB was prolly a bigger influence on him than some others. i remember having the feeling he was an obnoxious wigger ala shane heyl but the one time i skated w/ him at pier 7 he was mellow and friendly, lowkey.
the police came so we all skated off at speed, he showed us some slideable anchors down a dock a ways. he was doing crooks on it, your board could fall in the drink wicked easy.
he was a lot taller than he looked on video and pretty sturdy.
i regret my early opinions cause he was nice then and i didn't realize all the demons he faced w/ alcoholism that would lead to him getting kicked off. makes his movie murderer shenanigans more endearing and i like ledge dancing that doesn't involve boardslides.
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What is Mike York's ethnicity?
His part in Yeah Right was sick too.
Dude yes. I would get clowned on for liking that part when it came out. The music is sick also.
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What is Mike York's ethnicity?
His part in Yeah Right was sick too.
the police came so we all skated off at speed, he showed us some slideable anchors down a dock a ways. he was doing crooks on it, your board could fall in the drink wicked easy.
he was a lot taller than he looked on video and pretty sturdy.
i regret my early opinions cause he was nice then and i didn't realize all the demons he faced w/ alcoholism that would lead to him getting kicked off. makes his movie murderer shenanigans more endearing and i like ledge dancing that doesn't involve boardslides.
Why did he get the boot? I remember the York of Chocolate thread title, but only some vague memory of him calling a team member a fag?!?
Comparing him to Heyl is dumb.
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What is Mike York's ethnicity?
His part in Yeah Right was sick too.
the police came so we all skated off at speed, he showed us some slideable anchors down a dock a ways. he was doing crooks on it, your board could fall in the drink wicked easy.
he was a lot taller than he looked on video and pretty sturdy.
i regret my early opinions cause he was nice then and i didn't realize all the demons he faced w/ alcoholism that would lead to him getting kicked off. makes his movie murderer shenanigans more endearing and i like ledge dancing that doesn't involve boardslides.
Why did he get the boot? I remember the York of Chocolate thread title, but only some vague memory of him calling a team member a fag?!?
Comparing him to Heyl is dumb.
i don't think he called anyone on choco a hoto. he got injured and drank a lot as i recall. his bitch cheated on him, he was just dealing w/ some heavy stuff and fell into the dark stages of alcoholism. the heyl comparison has less to do w/ skate acumen and more to do w/ being funny [funny is subjective] for the camera.
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What is Mike York's ethnicity?
His part in Yeah Right was sick too.
Hell yeah! Love his part. Even though it was a little too much Pier 7 and 3rd and Army stuff, it was a nice contrast from all the LA stuff that was in the vid.
Mike York - Yeah Right! - Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHTwf_SvL1Y#)
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I read in an interview that they got upset with him about doing a tech deck ad. He said that he was already close to rock bottom with drinking/un productive behavior.
It might be in here
http://www.48blocks.com/york/ (http://www.48blocks.com/york/)
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I read in an interview that they got upset with him about doing a tech deck ad. He said that he was already close to rock bottom with drinking/un productive behavior.
It might be in here
http://www.48blocks.com/york/ (http://www.48blocks.com/york/)
yeah dude was just accepting weird sponsors like the tum yeto deal(dekline and pig) grind king, 4ce shoes, whatever he could get his hands on. He explains it in that interview someone posted a few posts up. With him being on chocolate a lot of startup brands got legit advertising
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York is one of the best ever.
I've heard at least half of his Hot Chocolate footage came after the knee injury.
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what's in matthew mcconaughey's hand?
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Mike York was fine till he fronted the new bastardised version of Blueprint
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Mike York - Las Nueve Vidas de Paco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-v0n9fSyU#)
York was the shit in those days, the thing with him is when he turned pro was right when all the Zero big rail skating really took off and he was overlooked cuz people weren't into tech line street skaters.
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Mike York - Las Nueve Vidas de Paco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-v0n9fSyU#)
he gave it a shot tho. I love Mike York i wish he was back on chocolate
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/medium/chocolate-skateboards-mike-york-1997.jpg)
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he also hands down has the best ender in yeah right
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that ender rules. I wonder who that kid is??
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that ender rules. I wonder who that kid is??
Steve Berra
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I was wondering why my rep was going down until I came on this thread and realized I posted that comment about mike york and shane heyl.. But yeah I just drew the comparison between them because theyre both fucking annoying.
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where the fuck is part 2
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he also hands down has the best ender in yeah right
(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-27-2014/gnf5eB.gif) (http://www.makeagif.com/gnf5eB)
I wish I could do this whenever people get in my way
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I was wondering why my rep was going down until I came on this thread and realized I posted that comment about mike york and shane heyl.. But yeah I just drew the comparison between them because theyre both fucking annoying.
And you should get kooked twice over for caring.
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I was wondering why my rep was going down until I came on this thread and realized I posted that comment about mike york and shane heyl.. But yeah I just drew the comparison between them because theyre both fucking annoying.
And you should get kooked twice over for caring.
slap magazine: the kook fest
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I was wondering why my rep was going down until I came on this thread and realized I posted that comment about mike york and shane heyl.. But yeah I just drew the comparison between them because theyre both fucking annoying.
And you should get kooked twice over for caring.
slap magazine: the kook fest
Dang. This is something people actually care about? You guys are more sensitive than I thought.
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There's nothing wrong with being sensitive.
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Which York part was the one where he skated to CB4? My old man memory is failing me again.
This is great, it's got the vibe of another one of those "commercial" episodes like the Huf one, but that's ok... these guys are all legends and any footage is good footage.
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I was wondering why my rep was going down until I came on this thread and realized I posted that comment about mike york and shane heyl.. But yeah I just drew the comparison between them because theyre both fucking annoying.
And you should get kooked twice over for caring.
slap magazine: the kook fest
Dang. This is something people actually care about? You guys are more sensitive than I thought.
Haha I honestly don't take it seriously, its just hard not to notice since its right by your name.
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I was wondering why my rep was going down until I came on this thread and realized I posted that comment about mike york and shane heyl.. But yeah I just drew the comparison between them because theyre both fucking annoying.
And you should get kooked twice over for caring.
slap magazine: the kook fest
Dang. This is something people actually care about? You guys are more sensitive than I thought.
Haha I honestly don't take it seriously, its just hard not to notice since its right by your name.
Fair enough. Didn't mean to start somethin'.
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Which York part was the one where he skated to CB4? My old man memory is failing me again.
This is great, it's got the vibe of another one of those "commercial" episodes like the Huf one, but that's ok... these guys are all legends and any footage is good footage.
Chocolate Tour
Mike York - The Chocolate Tour - 1999 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WLyU7pkO5o#)
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where the fukkk is part 2?
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http://m.vice.com/epicly-later-d/chocolate-part-2 (http://m.vice.com/epicly-later-d/chocolate-part-2)
Part 2 is pretty heavy.
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damn.
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Damn. I never knew how Keenan died, I just assumed it was a wrong place wrong time shooting/car accident. That's a real bummer to think about, and how many parallels there are with so many others who are wasting their opportunities in the industry.
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Whoa. Heavy episode for sure. Keenan forever
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That was incredible. My favorite episode in the whole series.
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wow. That was one of the best epicly later'd episodes ive seen. The show is so much better when people open up. I always knew Keenan died in the pool at a july 4th party but thats the first I ever heard the whole story. I feel for Lee, must be hard to be one of the last people to see a friend right before they go like that.
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I always knew he passed in a pool but I always heard it told a different way, I didn't know how into drugs those dudes were, I knew they partied, drank and smoked weed or whatever but I didn't know they were burning through coke like that. It's a shame it went down like that, he was the best man.
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Amazing episode, and really sad. Had to suck for Lee being one of the last people to see Keenan and having people hold him partially responsible. I love how they've gotten almost all of the heavy guys involved in Chocolate to interview. The only person whose interview is noticeably absent is Rick Howard, who for whatever reasons has avoided doing epicly later'd interviews. Excited to here about the MJ addition coming up, and hopefully Pops gives a quality non-whining interview.
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that was really heavy, it was sad to see the look in the guys faces when talking about keenans death. Kenny appearing at the end as a segue into the next episode turned my frown upside down
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these episodes are so good so far. On par with the Cardiel and Tempster ones.
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You can tell Lee feels responsible. That's probably a heavy feeling..I Feel sorry for him
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Tragic. I know this is "journalism" in a way but I really hope his family was cool about the details of Keenan's passing coming to light. Hopefully that was cleared before this went up.
keenan forever
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I always knew he passed in a pool but I always heard it told a different way, I didn't know how into drugs those dudes were, I knew they partied, drank and smoked weed or whatever but I didn't know they were burning through coke like that. It's a shame it went down like that, he was the best man.
between this, and reading about Reynolds in the late 90s/early 2000s, made me kinda realize how into partying skaters really are. Coke, smoking crack, popping pills... crazy shit man. I'm almost surprised we haven't lost more skaters to drugs and alcohol now that I know how serious of a problem it was/is.
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Great work, as usual, on O'dell's part. I really liked what Daniel Castillo had to say about how Keenan was just a genuinely nice person. Ultimately, it's not his skating ability that should be remebered, but his character.
Not get too deep, but I am always blown away and saddened by the fact that, quite often, bad things happen to really good people. RIP Keenan
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Tragic. I know this is "journalism" in a way but I really hope his family was cool about the details of Keenan's passing coming to light. Hopefully that was cleared before this went up.
keenan forever
If it helps somebody in a similar situation avoid the same downfall, then it's worth including rather than glossing over (in my opinion).
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His part in Yeah Right was sick too.
Hell yeah! Love his part. Even though it was a little too much Pier 7 and 3rd and Army stuff, it was a nice contrast from all the LA stuff that was in the vid.
Mike York - Yeah Right! - Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHTwf_SvL1Y#)
I love how it was all SF footy! He was keeping that whole scene alive in that video. I was living in Santa Cruz at the time fresh from Chicago and was bummed how all of those guys are now LA dudes (many were before and all...)
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I was never a fan of Mike York, But you can't deny the fact, he was pretty darn good....I don't know if it was his style or the wrist guard ? Mariano can make a wrist guard look good but Yorkie didn't pull it off. He would always make some ninja move or make his landing's funny.
Gabriel has always been my favorite since his Powell days. I wish his Chocolate parts were longer thou :-(
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This was one of the best later'd episodes even though it was heartbreaking.
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Tragic. I know this is "journalism" in a way but I really hope his family was cool about the details of Keenan's passing coming to light. Hopefully that was cleared before this went up.
keenan forever
If it helps somebody in a similar situation avoid the same downfall, then it's worth including rather than glossing over (in my opinion).
good perspective.
back this
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keenan's death always reminded me of brian jones. anyone know that story? he might prolly got drowned by hells angels or he could've been too fucked up and drowned organically but he had a ton of people over and died the same way.
difference being the stones wanted him out and [at least the way they're telling it] chocolate/girl just wanted him to sober up.
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Kind of have to agree that us Skaters have to be open to alcoholism/drugs/partying... I mean the lifestyle isn't all that sugar coated like people think.
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Tragic. I know this is "journalism" in a way but I really hope his family was cool about the details of Keenan's passing coming to light. Hopefully that was cleared before this went up.
keenan forever
Pretty sure his family tried to sue Redbull or whoever was sponsoring that party
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that ender rules. I wonder who that kid is??
Danny fenzuliiaaaaas or whatever his name was. Rad skater too.
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You can tell Lee feels responsible. That's probably a heavy feeling..I Feel sorry for him
Ya for sure. Definitely got the vibe that at the time people blamed him for it too.
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Kind of have to agree that us Skaters have to be open to alcoholism/drugs/partying... I mean the lifestyle isn't all that sugar coated like people think.
Skateboarding is a dangerous activity. To get into it and to have the confidence to do tricks down stairs, rails etc you really have to be somewhat of a risk taker. Considering this, I don't think it's that surprising that so many skaters have substance abuse issues.
This EL is great. I hope they cover what happened to some of the older guys- Gabriel, Paulo etc. It's crazy to think that Chocolate survived Keenan's death as I can see how that would crush many crews/brands (looking at Flip).
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Kind of have to agree that us Skaters have to be open to alcoholism/drugs/partying... I mean the lifestyle isn't all that sugar coated like people think.
Skateboarding is a dangerous activity. To get into it and to have the confidence to do tricks down stairs, rails etc you really have to be somewhat of a risk taker. Considering this, I don't think it's that surprising that so many skaters have substance abuse issues.
This EL is great. I hope they cover what happened to some of the older guys- Gabriel, Paulo etc. It's crazy to think that Chocolate survived Keenan's death as I can see how that would crush many crews/brands (looking at Flip).
Not only that its that skating is a good option for escaping "reality", i spent most my life avoiding certain people, and through skating i get to indulge without being criticized (to some extent)
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That was hard to watch.
I know for myself that Keenan's death has been the hardest of the deaths within the skateboard community. He was more a representative of my scene, my community, my kind of skating than anyone else and he really was a pillar of Chocolate, like everyone was saying. I see old ads and videos and what Chocolate looked like back then and still get shook from time to time. It didn't help that he got two or three [really good] covers after that, either.
This is more gossip, but I remember Meza wrote an article or something years after Yeah Right! that alluded to some drama regarding the Keenan tribute. He mentioned a courtroom, the vid, and the Girl heads, I think. Anybody know what that was about? Or even what I'm talking about?
Keenan Forever.
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keenan's death always reminded me of brian jones. anyone know that story? he might prolly got drowned by hells angels or he could've been too fucked up and drowned organically but he had a ton of people over and died the same way.
difference being the stones wanted him out and [at least the way they're telling it] chocolate/girl just wanted him to sober up.
the "rock and roll" lifestyle shares a lot of the same pitfalls as pro skating.... A bit of money, fame, lots of free time, partying and things can go wrong pretty quick.
I hope some young guys watch this, and not just us old farts who don't really need to be "warned" anymore.
anyways, really good episode. reminded me of the Fabian Alomar one, which was super heavy too.
this got my day to a pretty gloomy start I have to say. RIP Keenan Milton.
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^ Never thought of it from the risk taker point of view, always looked at it on a pleasure seeking/instant gratification level, but with risk taking added this issue is obvious.
Keenan's death issue/article in Transworld was one of the first skateboarding magazines I ever bought. I still want to switch flip a table like him.
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Really hard issue to cover but it was covered really well.
No sugar coating and you can really sense the loss.
RIP Keenan.
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Keenan was my favorite!
Keenan Forever
probably my favorite episode from Epicly Laterd, really on par with the Mariano ones.
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That was a heavy episode.
Keenan Forever.
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Really hard issue to cover but it was covered really well.
No sugar coating and you can really sense the loss.
RIP Keenan.
I agree it was a great episode but did they really need to cover it? I felt the loss when it happened back then but I dont know, I just feel like crailtap is milking the last bits of their OG team. It would be great to cover other things we dont know about. Keenan will always be around.
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Really hard issue to cover but it was covered really well.
No sugar coating and you can really sense the loss.
RIP Keenan.
I agree it was a great episode but did they really need to cover it? I felt the loss when it happened back then but I dont know, I just feel like crailtap is milking the last bits of their OG team. It would be great to cover other things we dont know about. Keenan will always be around.
Milking it? Theres no way they could do an Epicly Later'd on Chocolate and NOT cover one of the most important issues in the history of the company. I'm sure everyone would be shocked if they hadn't mentioned his passing especially as Keenan was one of the most iconic skaters on Chocolate.
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Really hard issue to cover but it was covered really well.
No sugar coating and you can really sense the loss.
RIP Keenan.
I agree it was a great episode but did they really need to cover it? I felt the loss when it happened back then but I dont know, I just feel like crailtap is milking the last bits of their OG team. It would be great to cover other things we dont know about. Keenan will always be around.
Milking it? Theres no way they could do an Epicly Later'd on Chocolate and NOT cover one of the most important issues in the history of the company. I'm sure everyone would be shocked if they hadn't mentioned his passing especially as Keenan was one of the most iconic skaters on Chocolate.
i respect them a lot for doing this- there ve been a lot of rumors.
rest in paradise keenan!
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Kind of have to agree that us Skaters have to be open to alcoholism/drugs/partying... I mean the lifestyle isn't all that sugar coated like people think.
Skateboarding is a dangerous activity. To get into it and to have the confidence to do tricks down stairs, rails etc you really have to be somewhat of a risk taker. Considering this, I don't think it's that surprising that so many skaters have substance abuse issues.
This EL is great. I hope they cover what happened to some of the older guys- Gabriel, Paulo etc. It's crazy to think that Chocolate survived Keenan's death as I can see how that would crush many crews/brands (looking at Flip).
That might be a factor, but i'd think its more of a situation where young people are making significant money (board sales for brands like Girl/Chocolate around Keenans death were huge) and are able to live an unstructured lifestyle (no regular 9 to 5) the rates of drug usage are gonna be high. Not sayings this is fully comparable but look at the rates of drug usage/addication among famous young musicians and actors.
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I started skating around '99 and didn't know too much about the dude but I remember there was a 411 dvs commercial where he switch varial heels over a rail and this old dude gets hyped and shakes his hand. I remember thinking wow, that's good style even though I didn't really get it yet. wish I could find it on youtube. rip keenan
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Kind of have to agree that us Skaters have to be open to alcoholism/drugs/partying... I mean the lifestyle isn't all that sugar coated like people think.
Skateboarding is a dangerous activity. To get into it and to have the confidence to do tricks down stairs, rails etc you really have to be somewhat of a risk taker. Considering this, I don't think it's that surprising that so many skaters have substance abuse issues.
This EL is great. I hope they cover what happened to some of the older guys- Gabriel, Paulo etc. It's crazy to think that Chocolate survived Keenan's death as I can see how that would crush many crews/brands (looking at Flip).
i would say it's both of those factors plus kids that have had a poor upbringing seem to be attracted to skating.
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Here in LA we just got over some November Rain. The sun is now out and the birds are chirping. So I thought why not catch part II of the Chocolate epicly later'd. Shit was bitter sweet. I don't know why fools think Chocolate is milking Keenan's status, I guess they either are too young to understand the man's impact or they don't understand how epicly later'ds work. Anyhow, I'm glad Lee shared out and added clarity. I remember Gino and Keenan lived by the Beverly Center, here in LA and I remembered hearing that it was ecstacy. In terms of those details, I know nothing could bring Keenan back, but hearing the details of the story could possibly influence some to get sober, tone it down a little, or at least be more careful.
It's a trip hearing how Mike reacted since I remember being at the USC blocks the day that Keenan got jacked and Mike came up to me to ask me if I was around when they took Keenan's bag. When he asked, I didn't know who did it so I said, "no." I remember Mike being so pissed he started looking at all the skaters and he just began kicking parking meters. In other words, I could see him blaming people because that would be his coping behavior. I've been in situations when friends have over dosed and died. Those situations cause a lot of reflection, anger, guilt, and sometimes people change their lives for the better because of it, while other times friendships are ended and people dive deeper into the cut. Anyhow, on a happier note. Mike York speaks the truth. There are people who could SW flip a table off flat, but you can't do it like Keenan. I remember when he landed that he hit up my brother for a smoke because he kept betting my brother for a smoke and he finally landed it.
I hope part III talks about Gabriel leaving Chocolate. Given part II, I somewhat doubt they would but I always wanted to know what happened with him. I somewhat know what happened to Paulo, but all I know about Gabriel was he was getting deeper into tagging. Aside from this, nothing. I can't see tagging getting him off the team since Guy and them were also tagging and part of the D.O.C. crew because of Joey and Fabian. All those dudes were still around in the industry when Gabriel fell off so this is all a mystery to me.
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^ I believe that I have read about the Gabriel thing somewhere.
HERE - this 2011 interview conducted by Seb Carayol in Skateboarder:
http://www.skateboardermag.com/features/lost-found-gabriel-rodriguez-interview/ (http://www.skateboardermag.com/features/lost-found-gabriel-rodriguez-interview/)
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^ I believe that I have read about the Gabriel thing somewhere.
HERE - this 2011 interview conducted by Seb Carayol in Skateboarder:
http://www.skateboardermag.com/features/lost-found-gabriel-rodriguez-interview/ (http://www.skateboardermag.com/features/lost-found-gabriel-rodriguez-interview/)
Gnarly. Gabriel was so sick.
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^ I believe that I have read about the Gabriel thing somewhere.
HERE - this 2011 interview conducted by Seb Carayol in Skateboarder:
http://www.skateboardermag.com/features/lost-found-gabriel-rodriguez-interview/ (http://www.skateboardermag.com/features/lost-found-gabriel-rodriguez-interview/)
Thanks Cosme! Very cool interview. Very sad to hear that drinking ended everything for him and to know that he is still struggling with getting a regular job. Since this interview is over 3 years old I hope that by now he has managed to pull something off and that he has gotten a way to get back to City College and finish what he started. In terms of the interview, Gabriel did seem to hold back some info, however, because I know that the graffiti thing was not just a passing thing since he ran with a tagging crew that gave him some respect for his writing not his skating. I remember that his tagging interest was early 90s, even late 80s because my brother and I would kick it with Juan who was also sponsored by Powell during the time that Paulo, Guy, Gabriel, and Rudy were. In fact, Juan was technically the 5th LA Boy (somewhat like the 5th Beatle), but do to graffiti, Juan skated less and less until he quit entirely. I know Juan introduced Gabriel to graffiti, because I've kicked it at Gabriel's mom's house when they would hold meetings there from time to time. Anyhow, it just seems unbelievable for his success just to fade over such a thing. Anyhow, I'm sure the number of people this happens to is staggering. Thanks for sharing!
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I started skating around '99 and didn't know too much about the dude but I remember there was a 411 dvs commercial where he switch varial heels over a rail and this old dude gets hyped and shakes his hand. I remember thinking wow, that's good style even though I didn't really get it yet. wish I could find it on youtube. rip keenan
http://youtu.be/8b1YssC4fvA (http://youtu.be/8b1YssC4fvA)
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This was so heavy.
This specific topic along with Dianna Templeton talking about Ed's injuries/Arto discussing Shane has got to be one of the most heartwrenching things ever in the history of Epicly Later'd.
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Kind of have to agree that us Skaters have to be open to alcoholism/drugs/partying... I mean the lifestyle isn't all that sugar coated like people think.
Skateboarding is a dangerous activity. To get into it and to have the confidence to do tricks down stairs, rails etc you really have to be somewhat of a risk taker. Considering this, I don't think it's that surprising that so many skaters have substance abuse issues.
This EL is great. I hope they cover what happened to some of the older guys- Gabriel, Paulo etc. It's crazy to think that Chocolate survived Keenan's death as I can see how that would crush many crews/brands (looking at Flip).
It's also about how these young kids are put up on a pedestal by the skateboard industry.
Drug use and the pirate lifestyle is glorified within the skateboard industry.
It gives skaters a character that companies can market, but nobody takes responsibility for it's repercussions.
Similar story to the Pappas brothers. flying too close to the sun.
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This was so heavy.
This specific topic along with Dianna Templeton talking about Ed's injuries/Arto discussing Shane has got to be one of the most heartwrenching things ever in the history of Epicly Later'd.�
Agree. It was cool seeing Ed doing nose blunt slides in this year's Toy Machine Halloween video clip. When I saw him there I immediately thought about Dianna talking about Ed's neck injury.
These episodes might be too old, but it would be cool if they went into Gino leaving.
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Was the Stevie Williams story about eating bags of coffee really about coke?
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Was the Stevie Williams story about eating bags of coffee really about coke?
Holy shit, never thought about it like that
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Was the Stevie Williams story about eating bags of coffee really about coke?
Holy shit, never thought about it like that
WOAH
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where was all that footage of Stevie whooping on those white dudes from?
I think its from here.
San Francisco Skateboarding, 96ish pt. 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1t8K1J7_48#)
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That Stevie fight was from '95. It was the middle of the street on lower Haight. One of those guys punched his friend Gary. You can't see from the footage but the first guy he hit was knocked the fuck out.
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Was the Stevie Williams story about eating bags of coffee really about coke?
Holy shit, never thought about it like that
WOAH
Realistically, who eats a whole pack of coffee to go and skate when you're jet-lagged as fuck? It would make you feel like shit and sick. A bag of coke might perk you up though! I just took it as Stevie not wanting to snitch. May be thinking too much though...
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p sure its about coffee. thats why it seemed strange. stevie isnt fazed by coke.
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yeah, i'm gonna go out on a limb and conjecture they did not smuggle cocaine across the world so they could eat it and pep up for a demo. sometimes a cigar is just a penis. sorry, freudian slip.
ps if you've ever tried to skate on coke you'd know how jittery/heart attacky it feels.
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yeah, i'm gonna go out on a limb and conjecture they did not smuggle cocaine across the world so they could eat it and pep up for a demo. sometimes a cigar is just a penis. sorry, freudian slip.
ps if you've ever tried to skate on coke you'd know how jittery/heart attacky it feels.
Who said they smuggled it? They could have got it there
Not saying it is or it isnt, just an interesting thought
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well if they were suffering from jet lag i'm guessing they went straight to the hotel and the only cocaine to be found was coffee. if they'd been there a few days sure they could've copped but they'd have become acclimated by then.
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i assumed that they probably put some in their mouths like chewing tobacco and got the caffeine that way. i dont think you would have to eat the grounds for the caffeine to get into your body, but im sure you could put a lipper in and it would work. as stupid as doing lippers of coffee sounds, its sounds a lot better than eating it.
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i've seen people do it in jail. seems pretty gross but so are some of the things i'm into. think they eat it but maybe just let it enter their inner lips capillaries and work it's magic.
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Instant coffee duh! When in in a rush ive taken my coffee crunchy, but never just ate the coffee particles
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I'm pretty sure Keenan had good hook ups in Australia.
You also don't have to read too deeply between the lines to see that he was into it pretty heavily. It wasn't just a one off line at a party.
May be it was coffee, just seems unlikely to me...Also notice Lee Smith was the only guy to directly mention coke and even he double checked if he should.
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yeah but once they got him talking about drugs there was no shutting him up. he should just narrate paulo and guy's descent as well as all the babyfaces that we'd be shocked to hear about. lee smith open mic, topic 'which ones of my friends were/are into hard drugs.'
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I've eaten coffee for that same reason. They were in a hotel, hotels have those coffee packets in the room. You guys gotta remember this is pre red bull and 5 hour energy.
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I've eaten coffee for that same reason. They were in a hotel, hotels have those coffee packets in the room. You guys gotta remember this is pre red bull and 5 hour energy.
I definitely pictured a jittery Sylvester the cat having a difficult time typing this out.
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they should drop names as to who was giving him the coke and was by the pool with him.
that way we can go kill them. perhaps in a long drawn out water boarding fiasco where we get them to admit their guilt and eventually just hold 'em under.
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they should drop names as to who was giving him the coke and was by the pool with him.
that way we can go kill them. perhaps in a long drawn out water boarding fiasco where we get them to admit their guilt and eventually just hold 'em under.
ASL? :)
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they should drop names as to who was giving him the coke and was by the pool with him.
that way we can go kill them. perhaps in a long drawn out water boarding fiasco where we get them to admit their guilt and eventually just hold 'em under.
ASL? :)
(https://kzoz.s3.amazonaws.com/jeff-and-jeremy/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Chris-Hanson.jpg)
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Part 3: http://www.vice.com/video/chocolate-part-3-851 (http://www.vice.com/video/chocolate-part-3-851)
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Sweet three is out
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Part 3: http://www.vice.com/video/chocolate-part-3-851 (http://www.vice.com/video/chocolate-part-3-851)
It's funny Kenny said "14 years later"... it's actually like 23 years later right?
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Part 3: http://www.vice.com/video/chocolate-part-3-851 (http://www.vice.com/video/chocolate-part-3-851)
It's funny Kenny said "14 years later"... it's actually like 23 years later right?
this is why he had very few options after high school.
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interested to hear the input on the "new chocolate"on ep.4. I wish they dove in more on the rest of the chocolate team like eldridge, roberts, devine etc. growing up they were like the new chocolate guys and then they just blended in fine in my opinion. Raven and Berle haven't really sunk in as chocolate riders in my eyes. I actually always see footage of berle riding dlx shit.
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I remember looking through a CCS in 7th grade right before I started skating and the Hecox boards stood out from everything. So distinct.
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That Kenny footage is fucking timeless. One of my favorite Epicly Later'd episodes to date.
Always very hesitant when seeing Pops pop up on screen due to what can possibly come out of his mouth.
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Kenny looking like that guy from Last Samurai
(http://ewinsidetv.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/hiroyuki-shimosawa_l.jpg?w=240&h=320)
And Hexoc is the man. Definitely that other pro on Chocolate even if he ins't a skater.
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Is there anyway to dl this? going by train tomorrow without internet and would be fun to watch it ;D
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That Kenny footage is fucking timeless. One of my favorite.
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How do you gleam over Scott Johnston and all the other team additions?
Kenny never seemed more pivotal than any of the other riders, didn't expect a whole episode dedicated to him.
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How do you gleam over Scott Johnston and all the other team additions?
Kenny never seemed more pivotal than any of the other riders, didn't expect a whole episode dedicated to him.
Scott was part of the earlier additions, which they mentioned in part 2, but really focused on Stevie instead. Out of the pro additions around Yeah Right and Hot Chocolate, i think they focused on Kenny because he's a legend and guys like Marc and Pops have already had full episodes done on them. Kenny may of just been the most open about his story, and he's prolly more interesting than Eldridge or Roberts, especially considering his connection to Brian Lotti.
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How do you gleam over Scott Johnston and all the other team additions?
Kenny never seemed more pivotal than any of the other riders, didn't expect a whole episode dedicated to him.
I figured Kenny needed the marketing for Cons as well. I just think SJ really added A lot to Chocolate and with how good of friends they all are it wouldve been cool to hear more about how Mad Circle fell apart and what he did in between. I noticed him riding an element board and wearing a t shirt in a 411 around that time frame. Probably not something he wants to relive.
I also enjoyed the info about Hecox, cool to finally see something about him and pretty cool how he is loyal to those guys.
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How do you gleam over Scott Johnston and all the other team additions?
Kenny never seemed more pivotal than any of the other riders, didn't expect a whole episode dedicated to him.
I also enjoyed the info about Hecox, cool to finally see something about him and pretty cool how he is loyal to those guys.
I agree I would of liked more focus on Scott Johnston, but who know's how open in his interview/ available he would of been to go back to DC and show where he grew up, similar to how Kenny went to vegas to film that. But i think they actually glossed over him more for the Stevie story at the end of part 2, because they just casually mentioned how him and stevie just got on right before Chocolate tour video.
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How do you gleam over Scott Johnston and all the other team additions?
Kenny never seemed more pivotal than any of the other riders, didn't expect a whole episode dedicated to him.
I also enjoyed the info about Hecox, cool to finally see something about him and pretty cool how he is loyal to those guys.
A rarity indeed. Struck to me out as well.
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Kenny is an awesome skater but he's also kind of forgettable. MJ is amazing but I can't stand listening to him talk about anything.
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chocolate is boring
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chocolate is boring
you suck, theyve put out tons of amazing shit: tour videos, team videos, graphics.
also, anything involving kenny anderson skating isnt boring
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i'd assume that part 4 is going to be about the new generation of chocolate with stevie perez, raven, elijah, and vince. but as a few of you mentioned it'd be rad if they touched base on eldridge and roberts a bit more.. i mean i kno as for eldridge he jus got on a couple months before yeah right so it would have been around the same time as kenny. At this point i doubt we'll get anymore insight on devine or pops, but would be nice to hear more from them. Watching these episodes is strangely making me want to purchase a chocolate board!
**Also nothing on Jesus ?!
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you suck, theyve put out tons of amazing shit: tour videos, team videos, graphics.
also, anything involving kenny anderson skating isnt boring
Agree with everything I prefer chocolate over girl. Their not boring at all. Plus, I love Evan Hecox work he's an amazing artist, so I'm glad they threw him in this episode.
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chocolate is boring
Not really.
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gino left for a reason
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gino left for a reason
trolling?
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Kenny is an awesome skater but he's also kind of forgettable. MJ is amazing but I can't stand listening to him talk about anything.
I feel sorry for your lack of intelligence.
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yeah, i guess you're dumb because some opinions just aren't subjective
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Over twenty years of Chocolate and they decide to devote almost an entire episode out of only four to Kenny Anderson?
Lame as fuck, but the Lotti and Planet Earth shit was cool.
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It's nice to see Kenny get the spotlight for almost an entire episode, since he's been on Chocolate for over a decade and hasn't been allowed to have a proper full part. Kind of a kick in the balls, considering there was no logical reason for his part to be shared in Pretty Sweet.
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Not really.
Girl and Chocolate have got that boring Powell Peralta vibe a bit. Bit mainstream, bit safe.
But Gabriel, Gino, kenny and chico. all sick to watch
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It would be nice to get an episode, full or half, on each rider but that just isn't feasible. I think the reason they did one on Kenny was because, based on what the riders said in the episode, he was the beginning of a new era for the company after Keenan's passing and Stevie leaving. He was a well-respected pro that they were interested in for a while and maybe his decision to come on board after Planet Earth fell apart reaffirmed to the Chocolate guys that they still had something to contribute after losing such a big part of the team and feeling directionless or unstable? Just a thought, but that's kinda how I took it.
Can we please get the full Stevie series after this? Where he talks about joining Seek for a little bit and then starting DGK? I remember it bein mentioned back when Kalis got his series.
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Kennys' skating is pleasurable to my eyes.
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It's nice to see Kenny get the spotlight for almost an entire episode, since he's been on Chocolate for over a decade and hasn't been allowed to have a proper full part. Kind of a kick in the balls, considering there was no logical reason for his part to be shared in Pretty Sweet.
anything to back up that conspiracy claim, t-pops?
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It would be nice to get an episode, full or half, on each rider but that just isn't feasible. I think the reason they did one on Kenny was because, based on what the riders said in the episode, he was the beginning of a new era for the company after Keenan's passing and Stevie leaving. He was a well-respected pro that they were interested in for a while and maybe his decision to come on board after Planet Earth fell apart reaffirmed to the Chocolate guys that they still had something to contribute after losing such a big part of the team and feeling directionless or unstable? Just a thought, but that's kinda how I took it.
Can we please get the full Stevie series after this? Where he talks about joining Seek for a little bit and then starting DGK? I remember it bein mentioned back when Kalis got his series.
in Colin McKays chromeball he mentioned this. He actually never got on
what happened with Seek? It should?ve gone over like gangbusters but never seemed to hit its stride. I know Stevie never even got on?
Well, I?ll tell you exactly what went wrong with it and it all started with Stevie and I orchestrating with Rob of how we were both going to leave, Stevie leaving Chocolate and I leaving Girl. We were gonna get together with Rob and Kalis and we were gonna do this Seek thing. The four of us together, at the time, that was enough to be a solid thing.
But how it all went down was a different story. I can actually remember the exact moment they told me that Stevie had decided to stay on Chocolate. I couldn?t believe it. And I had just talked to him. I had already quit Girl? there was no way he was staying on Chocolate. So I called him up to see what was going on, and he just goes, ?Oh yeah? my bad, homie. I?m staying on Chocolate.?
My jaw was on the fucking floor. And I love Stevie? but at the time, I was so pissed. I had just quit the best company in all of skateboarding because you were supposed to be quitting as well to start this thing and now you?re telling me, ?My bad, homie??
If there was ever a point where the company went to shit, it was that moment there. With the four of us, it was perfect. But it had to be all four or it wasn?t going to work. And nobody could fill Stevie?s role back then.
Honestly, I never liked Seek. I never liked a single thing about it. I hated every graphic I ever had? it just sucked. And the entire time, I totally regretted quitting Girl for that bullshit.
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It would be nice to get an episode, full or half, on each rider but that just isn't feasible. I think the reason they did one on Kenny was because, based on what the riders said in the episode, he was the beginning of a new era for the company after Keenan's passing and Stevie leaving. He was a well-respected pro that they were interested in for a while and maybe his decision to come on board after Planet Earth fell apart reaffirmed to the Chocolate guys that they still had something to contribute after losing such a big part of the team and feeling directionless or unstable? Just a thought, but that's kinda how I took it.
Can we please get the full Stevie series after this? Where he talks about joining Seek for a little bit and then starting DGK? I remember it bein mentioned back when Kalis got his series.
Hasn't Stevie explained his whole life story(minus the Seek part) in like 15 interviews? A whole series of episodes based on him would seem redundant.
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It would be nice to get an episode, full or half, on each rider but that just isn't feasible. I think the reason they did one on Kenny was because, based on what the riders said in the episode, he was the beginning of a new era for the company after Keenan's passing and Stevie leaving. He was a well-respected pro that they were interested in for a while and maybe his decision to come on board after Planet Earth fell apart reaffirmed to the Chocolate guys that they still had something to contribute after losing such a big part of the team and feeling directionless or unstable? Just a thought, but that's kinda how I took it.
Can we please get the full Stevie series after this? Where he talks about joining Seek for a little bit and then starting DGK? I remember it bein mentioned back when Kalis got his series.
as have most of the recent epsiodes
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It would be nice to get an episode, full or half, on each rider but that just isn't feasible. I think the reason they did one on Kenny was because, based on what the riders said in the episode, he was the beginning of a new era for the company after Keenan's passing and Stevie leaving. He was a well-respected pro that they were interested in for a while and maybe his decision to come on board after Planet Earth fell apart reaffirmed to the Chocolate guys that they still had something to contribute after losing such a big part of the team and feeling directionless or unstable? Just a thought, but that's kinda how I took it.
Can we please get the full Stevie series after this? Where he talks about joining Seek for a little bit and then starting DGK? I remember it bein mentioned back when Kalis got his series.
That's fair I guess. I kinda just wanna hear some more about Seek since it was left out of Kalis's series.
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It would be nice to get an episode, full or half, on each rider but that just isn't feasible. I think the reason they did one on Kenny was because, based on what the riders said in the episode, he was the beginning of a new era for the company after Keenan's passing and Stevie leaving. He was a well-respected pro that they were interested in for a while and maybe his decision to come on board after Planet Earth fell apart reaffirmed to the Chocolate guys that they still had something to contribute after losing such a big part of the team and feeling directionless or unstable? Just a thought, but that's kinda how I took it.
Can we please get the full Stevie series after this? Where he talks about joining Seek for a little bit and then starting DGK? I remember it bein mentioned back when Kalis got his series.
That's fair I guess. I kinda just wanna hear some more about Seek since it was left out of Kalis's series.
Then they should just do a Seek series with a Stevie interview. I'd love to hear from Flo and Carolino and what went wrong with lil' Greg Myers along the way. I liked Seek. They had a weird, polished thing going on and some real superstars. It had to have been weird at least for a little while at DC after Stevie bailed. Not that we'd ever get the truth, but I wonder if McKay still regrets leaving Girl. Perhaps something more than the opportunity at Seek made him leave, but to have it fall apart fairly soon after and then to do Plan B 2.0, must've been a bit like whiplash.
Yeah so, O'Dell, here I formally request a (hopefully) three episode Epicly Later'd on Seek. Thanks!
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Did pops have a brain injury at some point? He sounds regular when he speaks
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Not that we'd ever get the truth
bingo
or at the very least, a heavily padded version of what happened.
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Did Carroll have a brain injury at some point? He sounds regular when he speaks
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i'd assume that part 4 is going to be about the new generation of chocolate with stevie perez, raven, elijah, and vince. but as a few of you mentioned it'd be rad if they touched base on eldridge and roberts a bit more.. i mean i kno as for eldridge he jus got on a couple months before yeah right so it would have been around the same time as kenny. At this point i doubt we'll get anymore insight on devine or pops, but would be nice to hear more from them. Watching these episodes is strangely making me want to purchase a chocolate board!
**Also nothing on Jesus ?!
From skating a lot with Jesus the first time he came down to LA, I remember he, his brother, and Danny were all being hooked up with World and Chocolate products, all while being pro for neighborhood. This was late 90s. They were on some Jovontae Turner vibe, lol. I seriously thought they were going to pass up on all three guys because it took Jesus years to get fully on (even though he was already pro). From what I remember it was the whole Visa thing that kept them from being properly hooked up.
In terms of Justin Eldrige, the hook-up came via ValSurf skate shop since crailtap has always had a connection with the shop. Ever since they filmed the Chocolate tour silly demo there, Val has been tight with Crailtap. Eldrige used to work at Val and his sponsor me tape became his Yeah Right! part. Even the accidental nollie-heel-krooks at the Beverly Hills High handrail was put in. As for Roberts, I think his part in the Listen video blew minds and the filmer was working for Girl at the time so that is that.
The Kenny insight was really cool. Didn't know he was Brian Lotti's boy. lol. Hecox saying that he works only with Chocolate within the skate industry sounded way nice. I think Danniel Castillo was right in saying that chocolate designs are better then Girl.
Although I'm not a huge fan of the new Chocolate team, I'm looking forward to part 4. From what I remember hearing Chocolate was going to be called Sister until Rocco blocked that, then Mike and Rick kept thinking what do girls like? The answer they came up with was chocolate. The racial inner jokes came later.
I guess this new branch will be white chocolate since they changed their whole style up.
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Why only four parts? Six would have been nice, especially given all the different people and stories around the team. I can already hear in my head what part four will be about.
Raven should follow in McCrank's footsteps and be the next ATV guy on Girl, and Elijah should skate for a DLX brand. Sebo fits on Chocolate better than Elijah. Or Elijah should go over to FA. I like his skating, but he doesn't fit on Chocolate.
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Wasn't there a high end car thrown in there somewhere?
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Kenny is an awesome skater but he's also kind of forgettable. MJ is amazing but I can't stand listening to him talk about anything.
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Kenny is an awesome skater but he's also kind of forgettable. MJ is amazing but I can't stand listening to him talk about anything.
^ You're a fucking idiot...
You're fucking brilliant. Seriously. Give yourself a big high five for that one.
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Kenny is an awesome skater but he's also kind of forgettable. MJ is amazing but I can't stand listening to him talk about anything.
^ You're a fucking idiot...
You're fucking brilliant. Seriously. Give yourself a big high five for that one.
What's wrong with you that you find Kenny Anderson forgettable?
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i'd assume that part 4 is going to be about the new generation of chocolate with stevie perez, raven, elijah, and vince. but as a few of you mentioned it'd be rad if they touched base on eldridge and roberts a bit more.. i mean i kno as for eldridge he jus got on a couple months before yeah right so it would have been around the same time as kenny. At this point i doubt we'll get anymore insight on devine or pops, but would be nice to hear more from them. Watching these episodes is strangely making me want to purchase a chocolate board!
**Also nothing on Jesus ?!
Jesus broke the fucking fish eye Mang
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This is getting me so hype to get a Chocolate deck, but my only Chocolate deck that I ever got was the Poppalardo soda bottle deck. Sick graphic, but that thing broke so fast...
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Part 4: http://www.vice.com/video/chocolate-part-4-815 (http://www.vice.com/video/chocolate-part-4-815)
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Pops is delusional.
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Pops is delusional.
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I sort wish this was a longer series but it did seem like they covered most things without getting into too much detail. I really liked the Pops thing and the MJ rebuttal later. I am sure there might be more things to what Pops was going through at the time where he needed money but I think life is life sometimes.
Good job Patrick. Now get on that Shorty's episode already.
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I sort wish this was a longer series but it did seem like they covered most things without getting into too much detail. I really liked the Pops thing and the MJ rebuttal later.? ? I am sure there might be more things to what Pops was going through at the time where he needed money but I think life is life sometimes.
Good job Patrick. Now get on that Shorty's episode already.
that'd be amazing.
EDIT: a FIRM episode would be awesome with so many skateboarders on there that haven't had an epicly later'd.
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The sequencing of Pops telling his sob story and then Marc straight up saying "What's the one thing they had in common?" made me lol. Cut to Paulo "DRUGS."
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..and another reason to hold Ben Sanchez in high regard.
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The sequencing of Pops telling his sob story and then Marc straight up saying "What's the one thing they had in common?" made me lol. Cut to Paulo "DRUGS."
Yeah lol good editing on that part. Wonder if he asked Pops about drugs?
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The sequencing of Pops telling his sob story and then Marc straight up saying "What's the one thing they had in common?" made me lol. Cut to Paulo "DRUGS."
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The sequencing of Pops telling his sob story and then Marc straight up saying "What's the one thing they had in common?" made me lol.� Cut to Paulo "DRUGS."
Broke ass bum. Not Paulo. He's dope.
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No Daniel! Don't give up on pro skateboarding now!
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That has to be the longest Daniel Castillo part to date. Way to go out.
Overall the series was good. Left me with the impression that they are pretty close to their end. The new guys will continue but a third generation is most likely not happening. Good times.
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I sort wish this was a longer series but it did seem like they covered most things without getting into too much detail. I really liked the Pops thing and the MJ rebuttal later.? ? I am sure there might be more things to what Pops was going through at the time where he needed money but I think life is life sometimes.
Good job Patrick. Now get on that Shorty's episode already.
that'd be amazing.
EDIT: a FIRM episode would be awesome with so many skateboarders on there that haven't had an epicly later'd.
FIRM series would be so sick! Fuck Shorty's though. If you were already into Girl/Choc back then you thought Shorty's was a joke. It was the board brand equivalent of Osiris. Rad skaters - gronky image.
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That has to be the longest Daniel Castillo part to date. Way to go out.
And, of course, it was shared.
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The sequencing of Pops telling his sob story and then Marc straight up saying "What's the one thing they had in common?" made me lol. Cut to Paulo "DRUGS."
" I got these cheese burgers" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_4nupAxvNw#)
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Anybody catch that Supra ad at the end? Gee whiz that was fucking horrible
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There was so much more ground they could have covered. Some dudes they completely glossed over or gave a minute of time to. This could be a full-length feature documentary. O'Dell, if you're reading this, I for one would love to see an extended cut.
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I sort wish this was a longer series but it did seem like they covered most things without getting into too much detail. I really liked the Pops thing and the MJ rebuttal later.? ? I am sure there might be more things to what Pops was going through at the time where he needed money but I think life is life sometimes.
Good job Patrick. Now get on that Shorty's episode already.
that'd be amazing.
EDIT: a FIRM episode would be awesome with so many skateboarders on there that haven't had an epicly later'd.
FIRM series would be so sick! Fuck Shorty's though. If you were already into Girl/Choc back then you thought Shorty's was a joke. It was the board brand equivalent of Osiris. Rad skaters - gronky image.
Put that dick back in your mouth and shut up.
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The "editing" is due to the people at Vice, who have no clue how nerdy skateboarders are. The episodes could be 40 mins each and I don't think any skateboarder would be upset. O'dell should release some sort of directors cut. We'd all watch them.
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so pops appears in multiple episodes but no devine? no insight on justin and eldridge getting on? damn i really don't know how these guys got on. Stevies comment was really true about the everyone wanted to ride for girl or chocolate and the shut up part. Maybe he lurks the forms or have someone check it for him that seemed to be directed at slap
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Stevie's ender quote was fuckin' great.
A part of me really wants to feel bad for Anthony Pappalardo. Dude had it all and blew it. Long gone are the days...
Anthony Pappalardo - Mosaic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ae6tBhsou8#)
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All I want is a black and white answer on how Pop's earns a living.
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great job trying to sell us the Trunk boyz. :-\
yeah, EL is more blatant commercial than 'behind the music' and disappointing as such.
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All I want is a black and white answer on how Pop's earns a living.
(http://trauma.blog.yorku.ca/files/2012/06/oxycontin-470x260.jpg)
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whos the grossest to ever ride for chocolate?vincent, chris roberts or richard mulder?
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so pops appears in multiple episodes but no devine? no insight on justin and eldridge getting on? damn i really don't know how these guys got on. Stevies comment was really true about the everyone wanted to ride for girl or chocolate and the shut up part. Maybe he lurks the forms or have someone check it for him that seemed to be directed at slap
Pretty sure Devine was interviewed in part 1. Someone mentioned earlier that Eldridge got on through Val Surf. I would of liked more on Scott Johnston and Eldridge but i think focusing on Vincent out of the new guys was a good choice, the guy skates fast, loose, and locks in.
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The first ten or so minutes of part four were unexpected. Nicely done O'Dell! Would love to watch another four parts.
Respect to Ben Sanchez.
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when is Pops going to admit he has a drug problem?
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I know devine was injured a bunch because he would always have mini top 5s about it, but he must have had some footage for PS. he got on chocolate in 2004 for christ sakes. intro clip:
Chocolate Skateboards-Se Habla Canuck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf3v4PcLJh4#)
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guess it had more to do with what he filmed with. dude was a smooth operator
also vincent should only be filmed with a vx. PS did not do him justice. end of tangent
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when is Pops going to admit he has a drug problem?
http://instagram.com/p/suvE7zF543/ (http://instagram.com/p/suvE7zF543/)
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Castillo hate always astounds me. Good tricks good style. Not a lot of footage but it's all great. It wouldn't even be an issue before web clips and "producing".
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Yeah, I'm old.
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Wish they'd have focused on Jerry getting on for more than a minute. I'd also love to skate a Jerry Chocolate board, but they're all 8" which just feels too small to me now.
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when is Pops going to admit he has a drug problem?
http://instagram.com/p/suvE7zF543/ (http://instagram.com/p/suvE7zF543/)
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I sort wish this was a longer series but it did seem like they covered most things without getting into too much detail. I really liked the Pops thing and the MJ rebuttal later.? ?�I am sure there might be more things to what Pops was going through at the time where he needed money but I think life is life sometimes.
Good job Patrick. Now get on that Shorty's episode already.
that'd be amazing.
EDIT: a FIRM episode would be awesome with so many skateboarders on there that haven't had an epicly later'd.
FIRM series would be so sick! Fuck Shorty's though. If you were already into Girl/Choc back then you thought Shorty's was a joke. It was the board brand equivalent of Osiris. Rad skaters - gronky image.�
Oh so you were one of the kids rocking Shorty's and Osiris gear back then? Sorry, man - it must've been really hard for you when you discovered you were a complete fuckwit. "Put that dick back in your mouth" hahahah great call, man.
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I sort wish this was a longer series but it did seem like they covered most things without getting into too much detail. I really liked the Pops thing and the MJ rebuttal later.? ?�I am sure there might be more things to what Pops was going through at the time where he needed money but I think life is life sometimes.
Good job Patrick. Now get on that Shorty's episode already.
that'd be amazing.
EDIT: a FIRM episode would be awesome with so many skateboarders on there that haven't had an epicly later'd.
FIRM series would be so sick! Fuck Shorty's though. If you were already into Girl/Choc back then you thought Shorty's was a joke. It was the board brand equivalent of Osiris. Rad skaters - gronky image.�
Oh so you were one of the kids rocking Shorty's and Osiris gear back then? Sorry, man - it must've been really hard for you when you discovered you were a complete fuckwit. "Put that dick back in your mouth" hahahah great call, man.
Plus just in general, the people on the team would just give good interviews. You know Muska, Smolik and Turner will provide some good stuff. Then they can do some "where are they now" on Toan, Sammy Baptista, Steve Olson, Jesse Silvey, Rosa and then the newer guys like Pott, Frabrizio and Pudwill. It just seems like it'd be a good episode.
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I sort wish this was a longer series but it did seem like they covered most things without getting into too much detail. I really liked the Pops thing and the MJ rebuttal later.? ?�I am sure there might be more things to what Pops was going through at the time where he needed money but I think life is life sometimes.
Good job Patrick. Now get on that Shorty's episode already.
that'd be amazing.
EDIT: a FIRM episode would be awesome with so many skateboarders on there that haven't had an epicly later'd.
FIRM series would be so sick! Fuck Shorty's though. If you were already into Girl/Choc back then you thought Shorty's was a joke. It was the board brand equivalent of Osiris. Rad skaters - gronky image.�
Oh so you were one of the kids rocking Shorty's and Osiris gear back then? Sorry, man - it must've been really hard for you when you discovered you were a complete fuckwit. "Put that dick back in your mouth" hahahah great call, man.
Haha Toadfish lashing out at people all hurt because his heartthrob Pops was made to look like a bum.
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How could you take away anything but the fact that pro skating fucking sucks from that last part. It's basically a mediocre paying job that will ACTUALLY pay you for around 8-9 years then leave you with no job (maybe a pro board) and no skills. Unless you are street leaguing you're fucked.
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so pops appears in multiple episodes but no devine? no insight on justin and eldridge getting on? damn i really don't know how these guys got on. Stevies comment was really true about the everyone wanted to ride for girl or chocolate and the shut up part. Maybe he lurks the forms or have someone check it for him that seemed to be directed at slap
I meant more on the process of those guys getting on. Like what made them pick a guy from a skateshop (Eldridge) I agree with focusing on Vincent though. I heard of him through that same contest. a lot of my friends skated it thing
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I sort wish this was a longer series but it did seem like they covered most things without getting into too much detail. I really liked the Pops thing and the MJ rebuttal later.? ?�I am sure there might be more things to what Pops was going through at the time where he needed money but I think life is life sometimes.
Good job Patrick. Now get on that Shorty's episode already.
that'd be amazing.
EDIT: a FIRM episode would be awesome with so many skateboarders on there that haven't had an epicly later'd.
FIRM series would be so sick! Fuck Shorty's though. If you were already into Girl/Choc back then you thought Shorty's was a joke. It was the board brand equivalent of Osiris. Rad skaters - gronky image.�
Oh so you were one of the kids rocking Shorty's and Osiris gear back then? Sorry, man - it must've been really hard for you when you discovered you were a complete fuckwit. "Put that dick back in your mouth" hahahah great call, man.
Plus just in general, the people on the team would just give good interviews. You know Muska, Smolik and Turner will provide some good stuff. Then they can do some "where are they now" on Toan, Sammy Baptista, Steve Olson, Jesse Silvey, Rosa and then the newer guys like Pott, Frabrizio and Pudwill. It just seems like it'd be a good episode.
agree with toadfish. everyone i knew on the east coast hated osiris/shortys in the 90s (including a few who rode for them) except for little kids. and in my experiences on the left coast, it seemed frowned upon, but not hated. things were obviously different in sd. they fucking loved that shit in sd.
still, i think it would make for an interesting el series.
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I know devine was injured a bunch because he would always have mini top 5s about it, but he must have had some footage for PS. he got on chocolate in 2004 for christ sakes. intro clip:
Chocolate Skateboards-Se Habla Canuck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf3v4PcLJh4#)
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guess it had more to do with what he filmed with. dude was a smooth operator
also vincent should only be filmed with a vx. PS did not do him justice. end of tangent
I think he got injured shortly after filming for the Transworld video he was in (which probably took some of his older footage he was stocking up) and I don't think they seriously started filming for what was originally supposed to be the new Chocolate video til like 2009 considering how burnt out ppl were from Fully Flared. I think Vincent's footage in HD was fine, it was just the schizophrenic editing between changing mid song and really quick cuts, if it was done more like Cory's or Marc's part it would of been fine.
If were talking about companies they should do epicly later'd on theres a bunch Shorty's, Alien/Habitat (granted alot is covered between the Kalis and Dylan ones), or Flip from 97 to the end of really sorry focusing on Apples, PJ, and Bastian.
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I sort wish this was a longer series but it did seem like they covered most things without getting into too much detail. I really liked the Pops thing and the MJ rebuttal later.? ?�I am sure there might be more things to what Pops was going through at the time where he needed money but I think life is life sometimes.
Good job Patrick. Now get on that Shorty's episode already.
that'd be amazing.
EDIT: a FIRM episode would be awesome with so many skateboarders on there that haven't had an epicly later'd.
FIRM series would be so sick! Fuck Shorty's though. If you were already into Girl/Choc back then you thought Shorty's was a joke. It was the board brand equivalent of Osiris. Rad skaters - gronky image.�
Oh so you were one of the kids rocking Shorty's and Osiris gear back then? Sorry, man - it must've been really hard for you when you discovered you were a complete fuckwit. "Put that dick back in your mouth" hahahah great call, man.
Plus just in general, the people on the team would just give good interviews. You know Muska, Smolik and Turner will provide some good stuff. Then they can do some "where are they now" on Toan, Sammy Baptista, Steve Olson, Jesse Silvey, Rosa and then the newer guys like Pott, Frabrizio and Pudwill. It just seems like it'd be a good episode.
agree with toadfish. everyone i knew on the east coast hated osiris/shortys in the 90s (including a few who rode for them) except for little kids. and in my experiences on the left coast, it seemed frowned upon, but not hated. things were obviously different in sd. they fucking loved that shit in sd.
still, i think it would make for an interesting el series.
same here. and I agree a Shorty's EL could still be interesting though.
Anyways, this was good. Got me feeling all nostalgic and shit. Also glad it didn't back away from a little controversy.
And personnally I think the Trunk Boyz are a more interesting addition to Chocolate than Eldridge and Roberts. I just love to watch Vincent Alvarez and Raven skate.
Now how about an Element series?? The early team was rad..... Barley, Kenny Hughes, Pepe Martinez, Andy Stone, Bill Pepper etc. There'd be a lot to cover.
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How could you take away anything but the fact that pro skating fucking sucks from that last part. It's basically a mediocre paying job that will ACTUALLY pay you for around 8-9 years then leave you with no job (maybe a pro board) and no skills. Unless you are street leaguing you're fucked.
getting paid anything to skate, chill and explore the world sounds like a good deal to me.
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I sort wish this was a longer series but it did seem like they covered most things without getting into too much detail. I really liked the Pops thing and the MJ rebuttal later.? ??I am sure there might be more things to what Pops was going through at the time where he needed money but I think life is life sometimes.
Good job Patrick. Now get on that Shorty's episode already.
that'd be amazing.
EDIT: a FIRM episode would be awesome with so many skateboarders on there that haven't had an epicly later'd.
FIRM series would be so sick! Fuck Shorty's though. If you were already into Girl/Choc back then you thought Shorty's was a joke. It was the board brand equivalent of Osiris. Rad skaters - gronky image.?
Oh so you were one of the kids rocking Shorty's and Osiris gear back then? Sorry, man - it must've been really hard for you when you discovered you were a complete fuckwit. "Put that dick back in your mouth" hahahah great call, man.
Plus just in general, the people on the team would just give good interviews. You know Muska, Smolik and Turner will provide some good stuff. Then they can do some "where are they now" on Toan, Sammy Baptista, Steve Olson, Jesse Silvey, Rosa and then the newer guys like Pott, Frabrizio and Pudwill. It just seems like it'd be a good episode.
agree with toadfish. everyone i knew on the east coast hated osiris/shortys in the 90s (including a few who rode for them) except for little kids. and in my experiences on the left coast, it seemed frowned upon, but not hated. things were obviously different in sd. they fucking loved that shit in sd.
still, i think it would make for an interesting el series.
same here. and I agree a Shorty's EL could still be interesting though.
Anyways, this was good. Got me feeling all nostalgic and shit. Also glad it didn't back away from a little controversy.
And personnally I think the Trunk Boyz are a more interesting addition to Chocolate than Eldridge and Roberts. I just love to watch Vincent Alvarez and Raven skate.
Now how about an Element series?? The early team was rad..... Barley, Kenny Hughes, Pepe Martinez, Andy Stone, Bill Pepper etc. There'd be a lot to cover.
an element series would be pretty rad but they basically cover everything in the element documentary that was released a few years ago.
I know they covered the team a little in the beauty and the beast tour EL edit, but an anti-hero series would be interesting.
Jesus, even a Workshop series would be a 10+ episode dream.
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How could you take away anything but the fact that pro skating fucking sucks from that last part. It's basically a mediocre paying job that will ACTUALLY pay you for around 8-9 years then leave you with no job (maybe a pro board) and no skills. Unless you are street leaguing you're fucked.
getting paid anything to skate, chill and explore the world sounds like a good deal to me.
It sounds amazing, but I love how Tim O'Connor explained it. "Yo, i'm going to this awesome country, going to australia" "Thats so awesome" "Ya, it is, but when i get their i'm gonna hang out behind a K-mart near a dumpster where theres this embankment thats kind of good to skate"
Starts around the 6 minute mark, but the whole interview is filled with gold.
Tim O'connor Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lYZDLIQf1w#)
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Every time I get excited about the thought of future series E.L. should do, I get simultaneously bummed that these have become watered down and mostly long winded advertisements for the spotlight company or skater. I guess I was just hoping for more grit. It's a real catch-22, but could they not have at least mentioned Jesus or Devine's exit or Ricardo Carvalho?
Ain't no shame. Totally dig these guys, then and now:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca7/shortys69/ (http://www.angelfire.com/ca7/shortys69/)
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http://www.vice.com/video/chocolate-part-4-815?utm_source=vicefbus (http://www.vice.com/video/chocolate-part-4-815?utm_source=vicefbus)
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MJ airing Pops out.
Pops still seems to be a bit selective in his narrative too, didn't Crailtap supply HD equipment or a filmer and didn't get a single thing.
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MJ airing Pops out.
Pops still seems to be a bit selective in his narrative too, didn't Crailtap supply HD equipment or a filmer and didn't get a single thing.
crailtap spent like 12,000 to get a filmer set up and everything but pops didnt come up with any footage. Ty Evens talks about it in his jenkem interview
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MJ airing Pops out.
Pops still seems to be a bit selective in his narrative too, didn't Crailtap supply HD equipment or a filmer and didn't get a single thing.
Pops is a whiny twat
Seriously his voice is like a 'Valley girl' - sorry, you get 2 years to complete a project and you can't get your act together for it, you deserve the boot!
So it took him 6 months to do anything, even contact his sponsors to ask about why he wasn't getting paid?
Umm, sorry if i didn't turn up for work for 6 months, I think it would be pretty clear all round both parties had moved on
Anything he's put out in the last 7 years has been pretty crap, he fell off pretty hard after leaving Workshops umbrella, Mariano got bumped from Pro ranks, then made a come back, didn't cry about it, put it out there, got back on his feet
Pop's waaahhh, waaahh, waaahh every interview - 'I don't care, I'm not bitter....' you fucking are mate, you got given a golden ticket, instead of being thankful and working you ass off like everyone else and appreciating it, you wipe your arse with it and now it's everyone else's fault
Puelo and him should start a company called 'Bitter', get FA to back it, I'm sure it'll sell millions
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Every time I get excited about the thought of future series E.L. should do, I get simultaneously bummed that these have become watered down and mostly long winded advertisements for the spotlight company or skater. I guess I was just hoping for more grit. It's a real catch-22, but could they not have at least mentioned Jesus or Devine's exit or Ricardo Carvalho?
Yeah, I used to be a little bummed at EL, feeling like it's a great concept but hobbled by odell's ineptitude as an interviewer, but the episodes have definitely got tighter, and at least now you don't have to hear or see odell as much. EL is what it is. It's fun sometimes, but Jenkem's where you go for actual interviewing these days.
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I don't know, a shortys series would be interesting, but seriously, have you guys heard muska and smolik speak? Jesus, it'd be awful.
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i don't know. it sounds like Pops kind of blames himself.
and everyone else interviewed seemed to hold no ill will, so MJ's "bitter" thing seemed like kind of a strawman argument in the context of this Epicly Later'd, even if some people ARE actually more bitter than they're letting on, or the bitter ones weren't interviewed
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Marc's not bitter, he just doesn't give a fuck.
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MJ airing Pops out.
Pops still seems to be a bit selective in his narrative too, didn't Crailtap supply HD equipment or a filmer and didn't get a single thing.
So let me get this staright: after that Chocolate stopped paying him. And then, here it comes, Pops calls up Smyth and asks him to start paying him again and send another filmer his way while complaining about his paycuts?! That's awesome! Way to go Pops!
This was an awesome series though! It covered a lot of stuff that hasn't been touched upon before.
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How could you take away anything but the fact that pro skating fucking sucks from that last part. It's basically a mediocre paying job that will ACTUALLY pay you for around 8-9 years then leave you with no job (maybe a pro board) and no skills. Unless you are street leaguing you're fucked.
With the amount of downtime pros have, I don't see why they couldn't gradually get their college degree or develop some other type of skill. Robbie McKinley and Ben Sanchez are good examples of guys who developed something else and moved on gracefully. It's the lazy guys and druggies that get left with shit.
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MJ airing Pops out.
Pops still seems to be a bit selective in his narrative too, didn't Crailtap supply HD equipment or a filmer and didn't get a single thing.
Pops is a whiny twat
Seriously his voice is like a 'Valley girl' - sorry, you get 2 years to complete a project and you can't get your act together for it, you deserve the boot!
So it took him 6 months to do anything, even contact his sponsors to ask about why he wasn't getting paid?
Umm, sorry if i didn't turn up for work for 6 months, I think it would be pretty clear all round both parties had moved on
Anything he's put out in the last 7 years has been pretty crap, he fell off pretty hard after leaving Workshops umbrella, Mariano got bumped from Pro ranks, then made a come back, didn't cry about it, put it out there, got back on his feet
Pop's waaahhh, waaahh, waaahh every interview - 'I don't care, I'm not bitter....' you fucking are mate, you got given a golden ticket, instead of being thankful and working you ass off like everyone else and appreciating it, you wipe your arse with it and now it's everyone else's fault
Puelo and him should start a company called 'Bitter', get FA to back it, I'm sure it'll sell millions
amen. though, puleo still produces footage, without the aid of sponsors, and he's almost 10 years older than pops.
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MJ airing Pops out.
Seemed like MJ was airing everyone out to me, not in a bad way though
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It's kinda all been said about pops. The dude is depressing to listen to at this point. I kinda wish people would stop pointing the camera at him.
The part that trips me out the most though about his whole delusional "I can't produce unless I'm getting paid" thing is that this is the dude who started his career sleeping at the fucking seaport benches & skating his ass off. It's like he's somehow completely forgot that 99.9% of the skaters on the planet don't get paid a dime OR even get free shit, & youtube is FULL of sick video parts by dudes who also hold down full time jobs.
MJ, on the other hand - there's a dude who gets it.:)
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How could you take away anything but the fact that pro skating fucking sucks from that last part. It's basically a mediocre paying job that will ACTUALLY pay you for around 8-9 years then leave you with no job (maybe a pro board) and no skills. Unless you are street leaguing you're fucked.
getting paid anything to skate, chill and explore the world sounds like a good deal to me.
yeah it is, the Tim O'connor thing is BS, those dudes have plenty of downtime on tour, theres an old Sal story where he puts a bunch of pros on blast cuz they end up in exotic locals and all they want to do is go to the mall to find colors of airmax's that you can't get in the US. I lot of pros are just lame truthfully, idk if anyone has been to any of the Make A Wish skate jams in Houston but you will generally find more pros getting drunk in the shitty coragated steel warehouse bar across the street from the park than skating an amazing park raising money for a good cause, and i know any houston heads on here will attest to this.
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Its comical to hear MJ of all people airing people out about having issues. He himself was this // close to getting the boot because of his drinking problem.
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Its comical to hear MJ of all people airing people out about having issues. He himself was this // close to getting the boot because of his drinking problem.
i kind of thought the same thing but then quickly realized that within his stint as an alcoholic he also pulled together a 20 minute long mind-blowing last part in one of the biggest skate videos ever..... i doubt the ice ever got too thin.
is jesus fernandez even on anymore? his name is on the team page but i don't see any of his boards?
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Its comical to hear MJ of all people airing people out about having issues. He himself was this // close to getting the boot because of his drinking problem.
and he still delivered a fuckin 3 song part in fully flared.
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Anthony Pappalardo is such a bitch. Like any job, you have to work hard and always stay on top of, or ahead of, the game. He didn't for whatever reasons, and couldn't pull himself back up. End story, why anyone gives this whiny cunt a platform to speak is beyond me.
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All the footage in the world won't get anyone back the loss of friendships, family, and piece of mind that he lost and has had to work to get back what little pieces he could because of his behavior while battling his demons.
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also didn't chocolate recently send Pops to australia? like long after PS came out
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was mj ever really on thin ice? pops and paulo didn't get 10 yrs to fuck off and do nothing. lord forgive me for saying this but mulder really looks like shit.
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All the footage in the world won't get anyone back the loss of friendships, family, and piece of mind that he lost and has had to work to get back what little pieces he could because of his behavior while battling his demons.
yeahhhh but what you said was the he was very close to being kicked off the team, and i dont think you have any proof of that. mj was really popular while he was fucking up, he was probably selling a lot of boards. i doubt chocolate, lakai, or matix would have kicked him off for drinking
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also didn't chocolate recently send Pops to australia? like long after PS came out
I don't know about Australia, but I think they flew him out to LA around the time he had that one interview where he laid bare his issues and what happened with Converse.
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how many episodes are there going to be for this one? I usually wait to watch them until they are all out...but it's getting hard to wait for this one.
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how many episodes are there going to be for this one? I usually wait to watch them until they are all out...but it's getting hard to wait for this one.
4, it's done. Watch away.
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I have no sympathy for Pops
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How could you take away anything but the fact that pro skating fucking sucks from that last part. It's basically a mediocre paying job that will ACTUALLY pay you for around 8-9 years then leave you with no job (maybe a pro board) and no skills. Unless you are street leaguing you're fucked.
getting paid anything to skate, chill and explore the world sounds like a good deal to me.
Starts around the 6 minute mark, but the whole interview is filled with gold.
Tim O'connor Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lYZDLIQf1w#)
that was amazing
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I have no sympathy for Pops
Zero.
Cunts cooked.
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I hated Pops before it was cool to hate Pops.
His whining is embarrassing.
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So you actually pronounce the Y in Smyth...
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How could you take away anything but the fact that pro skating fucking sucks from that last part. It's basically a mediocre paying job that will ACTUALLY pay you for around 8-9 years then leave you with no job (maybe a pro board) and no skills. Unless you are street leaguing you're fucked.
getting paid anything to skate, chill and explore the world sounds like a good deal to me.
^ hahaha
So true
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Pops is so far removed from both the skate world and just reality in general that any further interviews of him seem pretty pointless.
Fuck O'Dell for trying to lead the York interviews into some controversy just for the sake of drama.
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Pops is so far removed from both the skate world and just reality in general that any further interviews of him seem pretty pointless.
Fuck O'Dell for trying to lead the York interviews into some controversy just for the sake of drama.
I kind of noticed that too. Mike York is a great dude with a great attitude; thankful for everything - Pops is the opposite
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Its comical to hear MJ of all people airing people out about having issues.? He himself was this // close to getting the boot because of his drinking problem.
I actually think MJ's issues put him in a better position to comment if anything and I haven't heard anything to indicate he was close to getting dumped by sponsors either.
My understanding was that he had a problem with drinking that somewhat stemmed from the amount of work he was putting in, everyone has seen what Marc with his self confessed drinking problem produced. What is Pops excuse, has he ever actually said he had a drug problem? Whatever it was no only was he not producing, have you seem him on a board in the last 5 years? Everything I have seen is bordering on embarrassing, i.e. that board slide in Cherry, jesus.
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Carroll taking a swipe at Pops too when praising Ben Sanchez was sick.
And after the Pops-MJ-Paolo edit it goes to Daniel Castillo having to work in a weed shop to get by. Not sure that was intentional and I know weed in Cali is different but I found it kinda funny.
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Carroll taking a swipe at Pops too when praising Ben Sanchez was sick.
And after the Pops-MJ-Paolo edit it goes to Daniel Castillo having to work in a weed shop to get by. Not sure that was intentional and I know weed in Cali is different but I found it kinda funny.
I think it was more of a "check out Daniel, dudes working 2 jobs blah blah blah." I don't think people in CA really consider weed a drug.
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Carroll taking a swipe at Pops too when praising Ben Sanchez was sick.
And after the Pops-MJ-Paolo edit it goes to Daniel Castillo having to work in a weed shop to get by. Not sure that was intentional and I know weed in Cali is different but I found it kinda funny.
I think it was more of a "check out Daniel, dudes working 2 jobs blah blah blah." I don't think people anywhere really consider weed a drug.
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Carroll taking a swipe at Pops too when praising Ben Sanchez was sick.
And after the Pops-MJ-Paolo edit it goes to Daniel Castillo having to work in a weed shop to get by. Not sure that was intentional and I know weed in Cali is different but I found it kinda funny.
I think it was more of a "check out Daniel, dudes working 2 jobs blah blah blah."? I don't think people in CA really consider selling weed a job.?
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Carroll taking a swipe at Pops too when praising Ben Sanchez was sick.
And after the Pops-MJ-Paolo edit it goes to Daniel Castillo having to work in a weed shop to get by. Not sure that was intentional and I know weed in Cali is different but I found it kinda funny.
I think it was more of a "check out Daniel, dudes working 2 jobs blah blah blah."? I don't think people in CA really consider selling weed a job.?
There's literally thousands of people just in LA that consider providing people with medical marijuana a job.
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I was waiting on an Eldridge interview. I always thought he became pro way too quick. He basically came out with yeah right then shortly later turned pro.
I’m glad people aren’t trying to justify pops anymore, he’s just the fucking worst at procrastinating and using bullshit excuses to work in his favor. Dudes getting a little chubby too.
So nobody likes Raven? I swear his part was one of my favorites in pretty sweet to be honest. I always found Elijah and Stevie pretty bland. I like how good they made Vincent look with his old footage and how he came out of nowhere skating different than the traditional slow tech Los Angeles skaters.
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Carroll taking a swipe at Pops too when praising Ben Sanchez was sick.
And after the Pops-MJ-Paolo edit it goes to Daniel Castillo having to work in a weed shop to get by. Not sure that was intentional and I know weed in Cali is different but I found it kinda funny.
I think it was more of a "check out Daniel, dudes working 2 jobs blah blah blah."
I thought it was sick showing that, especially hearing him comment on life after Chocolate. People have always hated on him for being pro and milking it, but in reality he was friends with these people, skated and over time I'm sure Chocolate as a "family" thought he deserved a pro board having been there since day one.
Now he's no longer pro, and still has the same positive attitude, working at kayo with his friends and selling weed legally at a place where he probably used to get weed from. He's had opportunities and he's made connections and he's used them. Can't knock that.
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I was waiting on an Eldridge interview. I always thought he became pro way too quick. He basically came out with yeah right then shortly later turned pro.
I?m glad people aren?t trying to justify pops anymore, he?s just the fucking worst at procrastinating and using bullshit excuses to work in his favor. Dudes getting a little chubby too.
So nobody likes Raven? I swear his part was one of my favorites in pretty sweet to be honest. I always found Elijah and Stevie pretty bland. I like how good they made Vincent look with his old footage and how he came out of nowhere skating different than the traditional slow tech Los Angeles skaters.
i like raven but its pretty apparent that his family's connections helped him get on (nick and joey). Not to say he dont rip because he definitely holds his weight it would've been rad if he stuck it out on creature and gave it a different flavor. Him on chocolate is equivalent to when riley hawk was on birdhouse. Stevie in my opinion actually fits chocolate perfectly along with Vincent. I'm not sure about elijah he's really good but sort of the odd man out seems more "girl" to me
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Elijah seems to get a lot of hate on this site and I can't seem to figure out why. He went through a weird phase when he was younger, but most people do. He skates gnarly shit with a solid, clean style. He may not be as tech as most of the other riders, but I think Chocolate did good picking him up.
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Elijah seems to get a lot of hate on this site and I can't seem to figure out why. He went through a weird phase when he was younger, but most people do. He skates gnarly shit with a solid, clean style. He may not be as tech as most of the other riders, but I think Chocolate did good picking him up.
I don't think anyones hated on his skating outside of people saying he'd fit Anti-Hero better than Chocolate (which for most people on here is at worst a backhanded compliment). People just thought it was weird a kid who used to dress similar to Duffell ended up on a brand like Chocolate. Crailtaps never really had a transition/vert skater outside of Colin McKay who sort of fit due to being part of original plan b and being close to Rick, and i think the only thing he had footage in was less than a minute in Chocolate tour.
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Dear Pop's,
You are a faggot.
That is all.
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Pops is so far removed from both the skate world and just reality in general that any further interviews of him seem pretty pointless.
Fuck O'Dell for trying to lead the York interviews into some controversy just for the sake of drama.
Sometimes when you interview someone you have to play dumb to get a good answer, and I think that's what O'Dell was doing more so than trying to create controversy. If he wanted to create controversy he probably would have edited out York's insightful answer.
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Pops is so far removed from both the skate world and just reality in general that any further interviews of him seem pretty pointless.?
Fuck O'Dell for trying to lead the York interviews into some controversy just for the sake of drama.?
Sometimes when you interview someone you have to play dumb to get a good answer, and I think that's what O'Dell was doing more so than trying to create controversy. If he wanted to create controversy he probably would have edited out York's insightful answer.
That's very interesting. Check out me and my boy Strongman's new song, "These Nuts." Here it is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIr_BVh2CTQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIr_BVh2CTQ)
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The thing about the e-mail was fucking stupid.
I sit thinking about an email in my outbox that I never sent.
So much so, that even though I really wanted to be in Pretty Sweet, I did nothing and just thought about that unsent e-mail.
Stevie Williams is pretty far up his own ass. He gasses himself in every interview he does.
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Pops is so far removed from both the skate world and just reality in general that any further interviews of him seem pretty pointless.
Fuck O'Dell for trying to lead the York interviews into some controversy just for the sake of drama.
Sometimes when you interview someone you have to play dumb to get a good answer, and I think that's what O'Dell was doing more so than trying to create controversy. If he wanted to create controversy he probably would have edited out York's insightful answer.
I totally get the concept of letting the other person talk themselves out, using silence to keep the other person talking etc.
I'm just saying, from what I heard, O'dell tried to stir up some shit and the only reason York even agreed to be on the program in the first place was that free advert space for Roller Horror, which I can totally understand.
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