Oskis New Truck Brand

[HaveFunSkateboarding]

Way back in the early 90’s my best friend would drill a hole into the hanger of his truck and pound in a nail through it to prevent the axle from slipping. It worked.
Then in the late 90’s there was a truck company, I think it might have been called Titan trucks, they did the same thing and sold them that way. It worked but I could never stand how it looked. Also, by the late 90’s other truck brands already figured it out and axle slipping was a thing of the past.

This thing Lurpiv is doing reminds me of that. Also, it seems like this was just the only way they could fix their kingpin problem on the fly without having to throw away a bunch of trucks/baseplates and not selling them. I get that they’re a new company and this is an unfortunate hurdle they have to deal with, with the design process. But it just seems janky to me. I almost ordered a pair of these and at the last second decided to just stick with my thunders. I feel like I dodged a bullet. I wouldn’t have wanted to deal with this problem after spending $100 on a pair of trucks.

[slothrop]

That jig doesn’t make sense. The truck should be on a board with a load on top and wheels touching a surface to apply the pressure

The set screw reminds me of when Titans had one to hold the axle in place.

The set screw can hold fine although it’s sorta dumb since no skate tools have it and those things are very easy to round out.

So here’s a tally so far:

1. Kingpin 1 loosened on a significant number of customers.
2. Kingpin nut stripped for a number of customers due to shitty quality and bad threadlock.
3. They shipped a truck with a nut size that doesn’t match the majority of skate tools.
4. The nylock didn’t work on the majority of trucks.
5. Their kingpin fix was to basically undo one of their design features, which apparently didn’t work any better than a standard kingpin when it touched a grind surface.
6. Now they introduce a delicate set screw they tested with a jig that doesn’t replicate skateboarding and is a size on no skate tools in a part of the truck that for many comes in contact on occasion with stuff.

This sounds like when people that own Mercedes Sprinter vans drop $100k only to find out the turbo impeller is made of plastic and has exploded on them 5 hours outside of Muscatine, Iowa with not a dealer in sight.

i agree with  them certainly.  only one i dont really is the skate tool part. most of the world uses metric sizes apart from US liberia and myanmar i could be wrong tho. but i do get your point about skate tools that being said you are getting a made in sweden product

[diplodocus]

this is why you should only get into the truck market if you have the capability and engineering background.

Lurpiv is cool and I wish oski the best but this product seems so rushed. Critical design flaw. They keep sending out and “fixing” things. These fixes are all rushed and have almost no research and testing. Trucks are finicky and can be different for skaters. One guy testing it on an instagram post is not doing it for me.

On top of that, these trucks were 100 dollars. if you paid that much for trucks you expect something to work and have higher expectations for the fixes.

Tldr: lurpiv is a mess, sorry you guys spent 100 on them

[slothrop]

didnt ace's have alot of teething issues also tho and i guess the rush part is a lil expected cause the window of interest will close if they dont try atleast do something
 oski could just ride off with the sales so far i guess

[Mean salto]

Been thinking a bunch about other new type trucks/features that came out and disappeared. Does anyone remember specific problems with the following:
the Krux where the kingpin nut,washer and maybe top bushing (or the nut went inside the bushing)was all one piece?
Grind king had these boomerang looking axles that couldn't slip.
I don't remember having any problems with my original tensors, but I know for most people they didn't turn.

[palelight]

I'm pretty sympathetic to all of the issues. I get it, re-designing something or changing a structurally integral part of your product on the fly is very likely a non-starter. Shit gets made in batches and ordered and there's sweet fuck all you can do once that train is rolling. But being married to the IKP, it's gonna keep happening. Indy went about as far as you can go with their mids, basically permanently integrating the nut/collar into the base plate....and they still loosen up, it's what happens on IKP's.

[layzieyez]

I actually like the screw idea if it fixes the problem. It's not the most cosmetically perfect solution, but I'm assuming many skaters in Europe won't care how it looks as long as the trucks performance isn't affected negatively.

Despite the flaws, if I was a skater on the other side of the ocean, this still looks like a great truck.

Just think about the problems with other trucks currently in the market and imagine trying to get replacement pivot cups or whatever fixes they've offered for their shortcomings if you're on the other side of the Atlantic.

These are minor bumps in the road for a euro centric option for trucks that is high quality and high performance.

[LebowskisRug]

I don’t feel Ace pivot cups are a big issue compared to fundamental design flaws. I’ve heard of one case of Indy mids loosening and NHS sent plates immediately and no one has reported issues with the new Royals or Krux. I can’t think of another model of modern skate trucks in the last 5-10 years that has had close to this many issues.

Not saying they’re terrible- the turning sounds great and they otherwise seem to have a lot of things going for them. Did Film have this many issues/ are they rising in popularity over there?

[slothrop]

so like boards with factories in mexico and overseas what's the story with the factories and trucks . Most trucks for economical reasons are china made right? so how many different factories specialise in truck making.be interesting to see if any companies use the same factory. overall kinda cool they are trying a new process rheocasting that seems to give a good grind but also last.

plus i guess it wouldn't fair very well if ace came out the gate with a badly designed truck after being apart of independent and desiged basicaly  as a stage 3 in 2006

[manysnakes]

That jig doesn’t make sense. The truck should be on a board with a load on top and wheels touching a surface to apply the pressure

Yeah, it's astounding. My opinion lowers by the day.

[white guy in a durag]

I don't see why you guys are so tripped out on the saw jig. They're testing to see if the king pin rattles loose with the new grub screw; violently shaking it for a long period of time is a perfectly fine way to test that. They've also shown on the instagram before that they were testing them on board as well, there's no reason to assume this is the full extent of their testing.

[laterskater]

It will take months for Lurpiv to come up with a new baseplate design that doesn’t loosen or use the set screw. It will also be expensive to change up their tooling to manufacture it. I think the set screw is a good bandaid to the problem, which allows them extra time to do some R&D on a better design.

In my opinion, it’s impressive that Lurpiv has addressed these issues quickly so that people can use their trucks without loosening. They first sent people the regular kingpin to address the issue immediately. They now have the set screw/grub lock which is a quick design fix so that new customers can use the inverted kingpin without loosening. Of course, the solution isn’t ideal having to use an Allen wrench but they fixed the issue very quickly and have continued to treat their customers right. This fix to the problem could have taken them much longer to address.

Once my 149s wear out, I’m going to get a pair of 159s. Once the 159s are done, maybe Lurpiv will have come out with a better solution by then.

[BL0B]

Been thinking a bunch about other new type trucks/features that came out and disappeared. Does anyone remember specific problems with the following:
the Krux where the kingpin nut,washer and maybe top bushing (or the nut went inside the bushing)was all one piece?
Grind king had these boomerang looking axles that couldn't slip.
I don't remember having any problems with my original tensors, but I know for most people they didn't turn.

i remember Tracker had trucks with some kinda of clips that held the wheels on, i use to see (Ravers era) Heath at spots looking for them after a wheel fell off, he use to carry extra's in his pocket. lol


kinda like these.

[Shady Individual]

i remember Tracker had trucks with some kinda of clips that held the wheels on, i use to see (Ravers era) Heath at spots looking for them after a wheel fell off, he use to carry extra's in his pocket. lol


kinda like these.

Even worse, they made trucks with floater axles and those e-clips. Loose a clip and the full axle comes flying out.

[LebowskisRug]

I don't see why you guys are so tripped out on the saw jig. They're testing to see if the king pin rattles loose with the new grub screw; violently shaking it for a long period of time is a perfectly fine way to test that. They've also shown on the instagram before that they were testing them on board as well, there's no reason to assume this is the full extent of their testing.

No, it's not. The kingpin loosens partly because the weight of the rider pushes on the bottom bushing and reduces pressure on the top bushing, which makes it easier to loosen. With no weight it is unlikely to loosen or put enough pressure on the set screw to see if it itself loosens or strips as those little ones often do. It's just poorly thought out and doesn't simulate the weight of a skateboarder or the normal load of the trucks.

[BL0B]

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i remember Tracker had trucks with some kinda of clips that held the wheels on, i use to see (Ravers era) Heath at spots looking for them after a wheel fell off, he use to carry extra's in his pocket. lol


kinda like these.

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Even worse, they made trucks with floater axles and those e-clips. Loose a clip and the full axle comes flying out.

yeah, those were the ones. did those make it to production? i only ever saw Tracker flow people with them, AFAIR.

[manysnakes]

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I don't see why you guys are so tripped out on the saw jig. They're testing to see if the king pin rattles loose with the new grub screw; violently shaking it for a long period of time is a perfectly fine way to test that. They've also shown on the instagram before that they were testing them on board as well, there's no reason to assume this is the full extent of their testing.

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No, it's not. The kingpin loosens partly because the weight of the rider pushes on the bottom bushing and reduces pressure on the top bushing, which makes it easier to loosen. With no weight it is unlikely to loosen or put enough pressure on the set screw to see if it itself loosens or strips as those little ones often do. It's just poorly thought out and doesn't simulate the weight of a skateboarder or the normal load of the trucks.

Exactly. Any test which isn’t designed to mimic the dynamic load of a user on top of the truck is totally useless.

[Shady Individual]

yeah, those were the ones. did those make it to production? i only ever saw Tracker flow people with them, AFAIR.

Bought these years ago and it's the only set I've seen with floater axles. I think they also did them with a fixed axle which makes a bit more sense.

[LebowskisRug]

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I don't see why you guys are so tripped out on the saw jig. They're testing to see if the king pin rattles loose with the new grub screw; violently shaking it for a long period of time is a perfectly fine way to test that. They've also shown on the instagram before that they were testing them on board as well, there's no reason to assume this is the full extent of their testing.

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No, it's not. The kingpin loosens partly because the weight of the rider pushes on the bottom bushing and reduces pressure on the top bushing, which makes it easier to loosen. With no weight it is unlikely to loosen or put enough pressure on the set screw to see if it itself loosens or strips as those little ones often do. It's just poorly thought out and doesn't simulate the weight of a skateboarder or the normal load of the trucks.

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Exactly. Any test which isn’t designed to mimic the dynamic load of a user on top of the truck is totally useless.

It demonstrates the difference between manufacturing and engineering. I’m guessing with the lack of testing and all these issues that they did the former but not the latter.

[FortniteGamer123]

Has anybody received any of the new Lurpiv Kingpins? I contact customer service and they said they would send their new ones over but that was like on the 28th. I really like the way they grind and skate but I’m so tired of having to tighten my back truck every 20 minutes.

Update. Finally got the new kingpins, they were probably stuck in customs or something. At first I honestly thought they sent the exact same kingpins again.

I took apart the trucks and noticed some pretty interesting stuff.
First off, the nut for the original kingpins had been stripped entirely. An entire piece of metal for both of my kingpin nuts, which I assume are supposed to act like thread locks, had been completely ripped off. I'm guessing this is why my trucks kept constantly loosening because the nuts holding them in were complete shit.
Second, the new kingpins are smaller then the original ones, I'm guessing by like around 1 cm-ish. They're also way more denser and heavier then the old kingpins.

I installed them reversed though, i.e. the same way the old kingpins were installed. I saw someone mention that you're not supposed to do that but I'm not sure? I rode around my driveway with them installed that way and it felt fine.
Hopefully they work and I don't have to deal with this shit anymore. Will provide some updates to them in a few weeks.

Some photos for those curious of the differences:
https://imgur.com/a/qtj6x4p

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

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Has anybody received any of the new Lurpiv Kingpins? I contact customer service and they said they would send their new ones over but that was like on the 28th. I really like the way they grind and skate but I’m so tired of having to tighten my back truck every 20 minutes.

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Update. Finally got the new kingpins, they were probably stuck in customs or something. At first I honestly thought they sent the exact same kingpins again.

I took apart the trucks and noticed some pretty interesting stuff.
First off, the nut for the original kingpins had been stripped entirely. An entire piece of metal for both of my kingpin nuts, which I assume are supposed to act like thread locks, had been completely ripped off. I'm guessing this is why my trucks kept constantly loosening because the nuts holding them in were complete shit.
Second, the new kingpins are smaller then the original ones, I'm guessing by like around 1 cm-ish. They're also way more denser and heavier then the old kingpins.

I installed them reversed though, i.e. the same way the old kingpins were installed. I saw someone mention that you're not supposed to do that but I'm not sure? I rode around my driveway with them installed that way and it felt fine.
Hopefully they work and I don't have to deal with this shit anymore. Will provide some updates to them in a few weeks.

Some photos for those curious of the differences:
https://imgur.com/a/qtj6x4p

They are meant to be installed the other way around, like a normal kingpin. I know they don’t really slide through but you gotta hammer from the top first to open the hole a bit more and then hammer from the bottom like a normal kingpin. They should still be snug, at least mine are. The kingpins are shorter cause they didn’t wanted them to stick out too much when set-up upwards. The others are longer cause when tighten it goes in the deck direction and it allows you to loosen them more without sticking out.

I rode yesterday the first time with my replacement kingpins, the standard kingpin way, and they felt really good. No wobble, no loosening. The clearance is not as good, but tbh I did smiths and feebles like always and it didn’t bother me. Gonna keep riding this way for a while.

[mbam003]

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Did the Lurpiv team really put in as little R&D to their trucks as it seems? I have big love for Oski and would like to try a pair of these, but why does it seem like the SLAP nerds, only after paying for a set of trucks, are the ones finding a ton of flaws?

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The same thing happened with the AF1. I have like ten friends on them with no complaints, but here they're dangerously flawed.

With that said, the only person I know in real life who bought the Lurpivs (who does not post on Slap) had the kingpin rattle loose and is generally very disappointed in them.

Just being curious here, what are the general flaws of AF-1 that are being reported, especially dangerous ones?

[mbam003]

I personally think the black nub on the baseplate looks like ass. Riding Ver 1 till the wheels fall off or until they come up with something equally aesthetic. Helps that I have had no major problems.

[manysnakes]

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Did the Lurpiv team really put in as little R&D to their trucks as it seems? I have big love for Oski and would like to try a pair of these, but why does it seem like the SLAP nerds, only after paying for a set of trucks, are the ones finding a ton of flaws?

[close]

The same thing happened with the AF1. I have like ten friends on them with no complaints, but here they're dangerously flawed.

With that said, the only person I know in real life who bought the Lurpivs (who does not post on Slap) had the kingpin rattle loose and is generally very disappointed in them.

[close]

Just being curious here, what are the general flaws of AF-1 that are being reported, especially dangerous ones?

The pivot cups seem to wear out very quickly and this causes the hanger to pit the baseplate. Also, some of the initial run had a divot in the side of the cup where the pivot cup sits, and this gouged the pivot cup, ripping it apart early. I haven’t seen many complaints lately, and I know a lot of people in real life who are skating the AF1 hard and have no issues, so I’m assuming it has been largely fixed, even if some cups are still splitting.

[Xen]

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Did the Lurpiv team really put in as little R&D to their trucks as it seems? I have big love for Oski and would like to try a pair of these, but why does it seem like the SLAP nerds, only after paying for a set of trucks, are the ones finding a ton of flaws?

[close]

The same thing happened with the AF1. I have like ten friends on them with no complaints, but here they're dangerously flawed.

With that said, the only person I know in real life who bought the Lurpivs (who does not post on Slap) had the kingpin rattle loose and is generally very disappointed in them.

[close]

Just being curious here, what are the general flaws of AF-1 that are being reported, especially dangerous ones?

[close]

The pivot cups seem to wear out very quickly and this causes the hanger to pit the baseplate. Also, some of the initial run had a divot in the side of the cup where the pivot cup sits, and this gouged the pivot cup, ripping it apart early. I haven’t seen many complaints lately, and I know a lot of people in real life who are skating the AF1 hard and have no issues, so I’m assuming it has been largely fixed, even if some cups are still splitting.

I was victim of the pivotdivot; the replacement cups they sent did just fine in a set of Indys (still in them).

I'll let you know how the QC is when they release the low version; one can hope all the issues are gone by spring '22...

[manysnakes]

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Did the Lurpiv team really put in as little R&D to their trucks as it seems? I have big love for Oski and would like to try a pair of these, but why does it seem like the SLAP nerds, only after paying for a set of trucks, are the ones finding a ton of flaws?

[close]

The same thing happened with the AF1. I have like ten friends on them with no complaints, but here they're dangerously flawed.

With that said, the only person I know in real life who bought the Lurpivs (who does not post on Slap) had the kingpin rattle loose and is generally very disappointed in them.

[close]

Just being curious here, what are the general flaws of AF-1 that are being reported, especially dangerous ones?

[close]

The pivot cups seem to wear out very quickly and this causes the hanger to pit the baseplate. Also, some of the initial run had a divot in the side of the cup where the pivot cup sits, and this gouged the pivot cup, ripping it apart early. I haven’t seen many complaints lately, and I know a lot of people in real life who are skating the AF1 hard and have no issues, so I’m assuming it has been largely fixed, even if some cups are still splitting.

[close]

I was victim of the pivotdivot; the replacement cups they sent did just fine in a set of Indys (still in them).

I'll let you know how the QC is when they release the low version; one can hope all the issues are gone by spring '22...

Good to know. I’ve got a set of AF1 44s on ice for when I finally get through my 144s. I rarely have truck problems though and I’m not that picky so I’ll probably be like “these trucks were cool dudes you should skate ‘em!”

[disappointed]

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Has anybody received any of the new Lurpiv Kingpins? I contact customer service and they said they would send their new ones over but that was like on the 28th. I really like the way they grind and skate but I’m so tired of having to tighten my back truck every 20 minutes.

[close]

Update. Finally got the new kingpins, they were probably stuck in customs or something. At first I honestly thought they sent the exact same kingpins again.

I took apart the trucks and noticed some pretty interesting stuff.
First off, the nut for the original kingpins had been stripped entirely. An entire piece of metal for both of my kingpin nuts, which I assume are supposed to act like thread locks, had been completely ripped off. I'm guessing this is why my trucks kept constantly loosening because the nuts holding them in were complete shit.
Second, the new kingpins are smaller then the original ones, I'm guessing by like around 1 cm-ish. They're also way more denser and heavier then the old kingpins.

I installed them reversed though, i.e. the same way the old kingpins were installed. I saw someone mention that you're not supposed to do that but I'm not sure? I rode around my driveway with them installed that way and it felt fine.
Hopefully they work and I don't have to deal with this shit anymore. Will provide some updates to them in a few weeks.

Some photos for those curious of the differences:
https://imgur.com/a/qtj6x4p

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They are meant to be installed the other way around, like a normal kingpin. I know they don’t really slide through but you gotta hammer from the top first to open the hole a bit more and then hammer from the bottom like a normal kingpin. They should still be snug, at least mine are. The kingpins are shorter cause they didn’t wanted them to stick out too much when set-up upwards. The others are longer cause when tighten it goes in the deck direction and it allows you to loosen them more without sticking out.

I rode yesterday the first time with my replacement kingpins, the standard kingpin way, and they felt really good. No wobble, no loosening. The clearance is not as good, but tbh I did smiths and feebles like always and it didn’t bother me. Gonna keep riding this way for a while.

Good to hear.
So, from what I’m reading here, pretty much all the problems are around the inverted kingpin - and if they just went classic then it’s a solid product, yes?

[Xen]

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Has anybody received any of the new Lurpiv Kingpins? I contact customer service and they said they would send their new ones over but that was like on the 28th. I really like the way they grind and skate but I’m so tired of having to tighten my back truck every 20 minutes.

[close]

Update. Finally got the new kingpins, they were probably stuck in customs or something. At first I honestly thought they sent the exact same kingpins again.

I took apart the trucks and noticed some pretty interesting stuff.
First off, the nut for the original kingpins had been stripped entirely. An entire piece of metal for both of my kingpin nuts, which I assume are supposed to act like thread locks, had been completely ripped off. I'm guessing this is why my trucks kept constantly loosening because the nuts holding them in were complete shit.
Second, the new kingpins are smaller then the original ones, I'm guessing by like around 1 cm-ish. They're also way more denser and heavier then the old kingpins.

I installed them reversed though, i.e. the same way the old kingpins were installed. I saw someone mention that you're not supposed to do that but I'm not sure? I rode around my driveway with them installed that way and it felt fine.
Hopefully they work and I don't have to deal with this shit anymore. Will provide some updates to them in a few weeks.

Some photos for those curious of the differences:
https://imgur.com/a/qtj6x4p

[close]

They are meant to be installed the other way around, like a normal kingpin. I know they don’t really slide through but you gotta hammer from the top first to open the hole a bit more and then hammer from the bottom like a normal kingpin. They should still be snug, at least mine are. The kingpins are shorter cause they didn’t wanted them to stick out too much when set-up upwards. The others are longer cause when tighten it goes in the deck direction and it allows you to loosen them more without sticking out.

I rode yesterday the first time with my replacement kingpins, the standard kingpin way, and they felt really good. No wobble, no loosening. The clearance is not as good, but tbh I did smiths and feebles like always and it didn’t bother me. Gonna keep riding this way for a while.

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Good to hear.
So, from what I’m reading here, pretty much all the problems are around the inverted kingpin - and if they just went classic then it’s a solid product, yes?

Structurally it seems so, but there are still issues with the locknut nylon.

[tzhangdox]

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Has anybody received any of the new Lurpiv Kingpins? I contact customer service and they said they would send their new ones over but that was like on the 28th. I really like the way they grind and skate but I’m so tired of having to tighten my back truck every 20 minutes.

[close]

Update. Finally got the new kingpins, they were probably stuck in customs or something. At first I honestly thought they sent the exact same kingpins again.

I took apart the trucks and noticed some pretty interesting stuff.
First off, the nut for the original kingpins had been stripped entirely. An entire piece of metal for both of my kingpin nuts, which I assume are supposed to act like thread locks, had been completely ripped off. I'm guessing this is why my trucks kept constantly loosening because the nuts holding them in were complete shit.
Second, the new kingpins are smaller then the original ones, I'm guessing by like around 1 cm-ish. They're also way more denser and heavier then the old kingpins.

I installed them reversed though, i.e. the same way the old kingpins were installed. I saw someone mention that you're not supposed to do that but I'm not sure? I rode around my driveway with them installed that way and it felt fine.
Hopefully they work and I don't have to deal with this shit anymore. Will provide some updates to them in a few weeks.

Some photos for those curious of the differences:
https://imgur.com/a/qtj6x4p

[close]

They are meant to be installed the other way around, like a normal kingpin. I know they don’t really slide through but you gotta hammer from the top first to open the hole a bit more and then hammer from the bottom like a normal kingpin. They should still be snug, at least mine are. The kingpins are shorter cause they didn’t wanted them to stick out too much when set-up upwards. The others are longer cause when tighten it goes in the deck direction and it allows you to loosen them more without sticking out.

I rode yesterday the first time with my replacement kingpins, the standard kingpin way, and they felt really good. No wobble, no loosening. The clearance is not as good, but tbh I did smiths and feebles like always and it didn’t bother me. Gonna keep riding this way for a while.

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Good to hear.
So, from what I’m reading here, pretty much all the problems are around the inverted kingpin - and if they just went classic then it’s a solid product, yes?

Yup, and if you have nylock problems just switch em out for normal nuts.

[Agnello]

Got some 144s for Christmas and they just turned up yesterday.



They came with the kingpin fitted the standard way, no extra inverted kingpins just a couple of extra nuts.

Looking forward to skating these, the axel nuts are bulging but I'm just gunna see how it goes