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Title: I love Espn
Post by: bbk on August 05, 2006, 02:33:40 PM
http://expn.go.com/expn/story?pageName=sx12mskbst

"When Chris Cole took third at last year's X Games, he was virtually unknown outside of the east coast skate scene."
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: fuckingvegan on August 05, 2006, 02:35:32 PM
http://expn.go.com/expn/story?pageName=sx12mskbst

"When Chris Cole took third at last year's X Games, he was virtually unknown outside of the east coast skate scene."

Ha Ha what a fucking joke.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: stagefright on August 05, 2006, 02:56:13 PM
'During the jam sessions, his trick list included a backside three kick-flip over the stair gap and a 360 onto the rail followed by a heel flip off.'

i want to see that last trick
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: ctsskate on August 05, 2006, 03:07:52 PM
Yeah I want to see that last trick also, I don't think even Lutzka has done that one, and I'd be interested in watching his triple backside flip also, that sounds sweet.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: E.l.G on August 05, 2006, 03:36:38 PM
Rally car racing?
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Universal Remonster on August 05, 2006, 03:54:15 PM
Yeah I want to see that last trick also, I don't think even Lutzka has done that one, and I'd be interested in watching his triple backside flip also, that sounds sweet.
what are you talking about? its obviously a back 3 kickflip
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: bbk on August 05, 2006, 04:53:53 PM
The funniest part is that they say he was unknown the same year he got SOTY for, IE the year New blood was released and he destroyed o couple of contests like at the DC plaza... I mean seriously, don't they know anything anout anything?
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: quit on August 05, 2006, 05:40:25 PM
I watched the vert best trick...Tony Hawk was forever correcting the other announcers.

Vin Scully: SIIIICKKK that was a nollie kickflip mctwist!!!

Tony Hawk: No it was a frontside cab varial heelflip.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Lance on August 05, 2006, 06:25:15 PM
'During the jam sessions, his trick list included a backside three kick-flip over the stair gap and a 360 onto the rail followed by a heel flip off.'

i want to see that last trick
HAHAHAHAA that shits too much, shits turning snowboard "jam sessions"
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: dalycitymassive on August 05, 2006, 06:28:28 PM
we love ESPN sportscenter 24/7
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: whatnot on August 05, 2006, 09:09:50 PM
And I freaking hate Joe Morgan
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: 1992 on August 05, 2006, 09:52:28 PM
nollie kickflip mctwist.

flawless.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Bill on August 05, 2006, 10:30:46 PM
The vert best trick contest was actually cool to watch.  I just hated how they focused on Shawn White the whole time.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: j....soy..... on August 05, 2006, 10:32:32 PM
it's rad elissa steamer won for the third time...
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: freshjive on August 05, 2006, 10:32:52 PM
if you read about steamer..
the article constantly talks about heelslides...
"Needing to rally from the slow start, Steamer did just that and put together a strong overall ride that featured a kickflip backside heelslide, a frontside 50/50 and a nolli kick flip..."
and then its like...
"In her silver-medal performance, Perkins flowed through the competition, sticking a number of tricks including the frontside heel slide, frontside 180, frontside 50/50."

i'm guessing they mean back tail and frontside tail..but who knows what kind of shit these commentators make up..
whatevs...
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: E.l.G on August 05, 2006, 10:35:51 PM
Why not just hire skateboarders to commentate on skateboarding. Why is that so hard?
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: hesh_trash on August 05, 2006, 11:22:03 PM
Why not just hire skateboarders to commentate on skateboarding. Why is that so hard?
Instead we get this "tony hawk" guy, I mean who the fuck is he?!
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: dalycitymassive on August 06, 2006, 12:12:06 AM
what kind of fucking name is vin scully. never seen him but he sounds like a goon
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: 2G on August 06, 2006, 12:17:34 AM
espn is so xtreme they dont need to get the name of tricks right, because what they say goes.......
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Jackers on August 06, 2006, 12:24:33 AM
Some years back I remember Jason Ellis talking to another commentator about tricks,  Ellis goes " Mike Crum with his trademark nollie flips". The other guy says " What's the deal with this trademark tricks? can other pros do it?" Ellis: "Yeah but they got to sign a waiver".
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Sleazy on August 06, 2006, 02:59:07 AM
what kind of fucking name is vin scully. never seen him but he sounds like a goon

Is that the dread locked faggot? He was at southside one time, what a fucking kook. Couldn't get his tounge out of Kostons ass long enough to talk about anything else. He would also occasionally notice a good, non-koston trick and he would call it out and be like "someone get me that guys name" and then would vibe the kids who would try and tell him.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: quit on August 06, 2006, 02:51:59 PM
Why not just hire skateboarders to commentate on skateboarding. Why is that so hard?

I want Geoff Rowley and Frank Gerwer for next year.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: magnet on August 06, 2006, 02:59:57 PM
They need some fast talking smartass guy who knows what's going on to be commentating.  Tim O'Connor?  Clyde Singleton? 

The worst part of anything being on ESPN is you got kooks coming out of the woodwork trying to make like they know anything when they've never done it.  I cringe eveytime they have segments on fantasy sports or some stat geekfest.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: mbl88 on August 06, 2006, 04:40:20 PM
its all good
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Rocuronium on August 06, 2006, 07:23:42 PM
As usual, I TiVO'd the x-games and ff-ed through the decades of motocross and bmx they fucking stuff that shit with in order to get to skating. I didn't notice anything new, except for back-flips on the mega-ramp. 
Each year, though, I get an added appreciation for Tony's commentary. His technical explainations are always interesting and on point, but it is his "politeness" that entertains me the most. You gotta listen close, but if you pay attention you can hear him cringe and hesitate before he finds a way to damage control what that Sal guy says. Most of the time he is so stumped that dead silence is the only thing he can come up with.

I would like to suggest to Mr. Way an exciting variation on the mega ramp: "Big Air Jousting", where the mega ramps face each other and the riders have a choice of weapons: lances, morning stars, flame throwers, tazer guns, and buckets of syphillis.
Just an idea.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: A.J. on August 06, 2006, 07:36:49 PM
hilarious
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Davis on August 06, 2006, 07:53:20 PM
As usual, I TiVO'd the x-games and ff-ed through the decades of motocross and bmx they fucking stuff that shit with in order to get to skating. I didn't notice anything new, except for back-flips on the mega-ramp. 
Each year, though, I get an added appreciation for Tony's commentary. His technical explainations are always interesting and on point, but it is his "politeness" that entertains me the most. You gotta listen close, but if you pay attention you can hear him cringe and hesitate before he finds a way to damage control what that Sal guy says. Most of the time he is so stumped that dead silence is the only thing he can come up with.

I would like to suggest to Mr. Way an exciting variation on the mega ramp: "Big Air Jousting", where the mega ramps face each other and the riders have a choice of weapons: lances, morning stars, flame throwers, tazer guns, and buckets of syphillis.
Just an idea.
I would definitely view the X-Games if this were a reality. An Andy MacDonald decapitation would leave me in ecstasy.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: syn on August 07, 2006, 08:08:10 AM
They need some fast talking smartass guy who knows what's going on to be commentating.  Tim O'Connor?  Clyde Singleton? 



Clyde Singelton and Nate Sherwood, fuck Tim O'Connor
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: donnie_murdo on August 07, 2006, 08:27:34 AM
espn is so xtreme they dont need to get the name of tricks right, because what they say goes.......

What "ollie north"

Serioulys what the fuck is it supposed to mean ?

"one footed ollie" or "ollie one foot" pretty much can't say the trick any better but "ollie north" i mean fuck off with that shit
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: sizable on August 07, 2006, 09:30:09 AM
I hear you gentlemen about the commentators but I'm just as concerned about Colin McKay's over and over and over and over and over attempt at the back tail kickflip revert or whatever he tried over and over and was getting close to landing in the flat.
How does this guy get invited to something like this and why does he participate? Better yet, why does he still have a pro model? It's one thing if the dude was landing it but the commentator even said, 'we watched Colin try this for three hours the other night and he never landed it..."
The X-games are a waste. Colin yo-yo'ing himself up the tranny and back down again over and over is just as much of a waste. Good Grief.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: donnie_murdo on August 07, 2006, 09:33:41 AM
I hear you gentlemen about the commentators but I'm just as concerned about Colin McKay's over and over and over and over and over attempt at the back tail kickflip revert or whatever he tried over and over and was getting close to landing in the flat.
How does this guy get invited to something like this and why does he participate? Better yet, why does he still have a pro model? It's one thing if the dude was landing it but the commentator even said, 'we watched Colin try this for three hours the other night and he never landed it..."
The X-games are a waste. Colin yo-yo'ing himself up the tranny and back down again over and over is just as much of a waste. Good Grief.

WHAT - check his bio

http://expn.go.com/athletes/bios/MCKAY_COLIN.html
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on August 07, 2006, 03:16:51 PM
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What "ollie north"

Serioulys what the fuck is it supposed to mean ?

"one footed ollie" or "ollie one foot" pretty much can't say the trick any better but "ollie north" i mean fuck off with that shit
I heard "ollie north" before the x-games, but never liked the name. ITs a reference to 1980's Iran contra co-conspirator Oliver North.
The one that pisses me off is the "overcrook" thing that seemed to have spawned from thps. Before that a backside one was called a Gersh grind and frontside ones seemed to be picking up momentum under the name "McCrank grind" where I was from.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: WORDLIFE on August 07, 2006, 03:27:21 PM
was anyone there during the vert best trick contest when shaun white was trying the 1080 and he stuck one perfect and didnt roll away, then they went to commercial and people from the x games and the world cup skateboarding thing went on the ramp and wouldnt let him drop in and try it? like standing on the ramp to block his way.  i dont really like shaun white, or consider him a skateboarder but when ANYBODYS trying a trick that hard and is that focused you dont just get in their way and make them stop trying, thats really fucked up. he got hurt like 5 minutes later when they came back from commercial.  espn is lame as fuck man, soooo fucking terrible.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Lakai or die on August 07, 2006, 03:31:57 PM
was anyone there during the vert best trick contest when shaun white was trying the 1080 and he stuck one perfect and didnt roll away, then they went to commercial and people from the x games and the world cup skateboarding thing went on the ramp and wouldnt let him drop in and try it? like standing on the ramp to block his way.  i dont really like shaun white, or consider him a skateboarder but when ANYBODYS trying a trick that hard and is that focused you dont just get in their way and make them stop trying, thats really fucked up. he got hurt like 5 minutes later when they came back from commercial.  espn is lame as fuck man, soooo fucking terrible.

That is so fucking weak.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Math Professor on August 07, 2006, 03:34:09 PM
The funniest part is that they say he was unknown the same year he got SOTY for, IE the year New blood was released and he destroyed o couple of contests like at the DC plaza... I mean seriously, don't they know anything anout anything?
You can't take anything that ESPN says regarding skateboarding seriously.  All that stuff they talk about and announce are aimed for those who have absolutely no clue about skateboarding and the professionals that are out there.  I bet if you asked any of the ESPN dudes what they think about Guy Mariano you'll just get a blank stare in return.  I you want info on football, basketball, etc. watch ESPN's SportCenter.  If you wanna know which pro is riding for what company or who did what down El Toro... read the Slap Messageboards.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Edward Penishands on August 07, 2006, 03:36:15 PM
after watching the "commercial free best trick vert skate jam featuring shawn white and the 1080" i mysteriously want to buy a saturn automobile
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Math Professor on August 07, 2006, 03:40:15 PM
Why not just hire skateboarders to commentate on skateboarding. Why is that so hard?
Picture how much better it would be if they had Clyde Singleton doing the commentary with Tim O'Connor.  Andy Mac would be hating life if Clyde was commenting on his vert run.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on August 07, 2006, 03:43:33 PM
was anyone there during the vert best trick contest when shaun white was trying the 1080 and he stuck one perfect and didnt roll away, then they went to commercial and people from the x games and the world cup skateboarding thing went on the ramp and wouldnt let him drop in and try it? like standing on the ramp to block his way.  i dont really like shaun white, or consider him a skateboarder but when ANYBODYS trying a trick that hard and is that focused you dont just get in their way and make them stop trying, thats really fucked up. he got hurt like 5 minutes later when they came back from commercial.  espn is lame as fuck man, soooo fucking terrible.

I heard that too. Awful, just awful. I'm not a fan of Shaun White's necessarily, but I don't wish him any ill will, and this display is disgusting. Just fucking tape it and put a 5 minute delay on broadcasting
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: hesh_trash on August 07, 2006, 03:48:25 PM
Better yet, why does he still have a pro model?
He co-owns the company?
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: the iron monkey on August 07, 2006, 04:27:57 PM
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He co-owns the company?

he was and possibly still is one of the best vert skaters ever?
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: dalycitymassive on August 07, 2006, 04:33:06 PM
isn't there a motocross dude or a bmx dude named colin mackay
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Edward Penishands on August 07, 2006, 04:34:11 PM
isn't there a motocross dude or a bmx dude named colin mackay

there is a pro wakeboarder named PJ ladd
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: Penis_Monster on August 07, 2006, 04:43:35 PM
was anyone there during the vert best trick contest when shaun white was trying the 1080 and he stuck one perfect and didnt roll away, then they went to commercial and people from the x games and the world cup skateboarding thing went on the ramp and wouldnt let him drop in and try it? like standing on the ramp to block his way.  i dont really like shaun white, or consider him a skateboarder but when ANYBODYS trying a trick that hard and is that focused you dont just get in their way and make them stop trying, thats really fucked up. he got hurt like 5 minutes later when they came back from commercial.  espn is lame as fuck man, soooo fucking terrible.

jesus christ thats fucking lame
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: sizable on August 07, 2006, 06:22:55 PM
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Better yet, why does he still have a pro model?
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He co-owns the company?
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he was and possibly still is one of the best vert skaters ever?

OK, owning the company is one way around it. I'll give you that.

One of the best vert skaters ever? Possibly still is?
Dude, you've lost your mind. I know he went throgh an injury but I couldn't even fill up a shoebox with the footage that guy has put together in the last seven years. He was horrible on street and he's laughable on vert.  It's nothing personal but if it takes you 2 months to land a trick you're trying on vert and then you can never land it again...you most definitely shouldn't enter a contest and you should definitely not have your own pro model.
I bet the numbers tell the real story. If that guy sells more than 50 decks a month, I'll eat a size 12 DC shoe.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: AUTOLUX on August 07, 2006, 06:46:38 PM
hey,ill agree with you on the footage
i wish he had more
his approach to vert skating is amazing
and yes he is one of the best,in my eyes #1
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: j....soy..... on August 07, 2006, 09:27:23 PM
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I hear you gentlemen about the commentators but I'm just as concerned about Colin McKay's over and over and over and over and over attempt at the back tail kickflip revert or whatever he tried over and over and was getting close to landing in the flat.
How does this guy get invited to something like this and why does he participate? Better yet, why does he still have a pro model? It's one thing if the dude was landing it but the commentator even said, 'we watched Colin try this for three hours the other night and he never landed it..."
The X-games are a waste. Colin yo-yo'ing himself up the tranny and back down again over and over is just as much of a waste. Good Grief.
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WHAT - check his bio

http://expn.go.com/athletes/bios/MCKAY_COLIN.html

if you can't even figure out what trick he's trying...how can you even question him having a board out....i'd rather watch colin try stuff than bucky land stuff...
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: magnet on August 07, 2006, 10:28:17 PM
Trying to watch the X-Games for any semblance of actual skateboarding is like trying to watch a violent gangster movie on basic cable.  Now the world series of Darts/Dominoes on the other hand...is a different story.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: sizable on August 08, 2006, 12:16:47 AM
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I hear you gentlemen about the commentators but I'm just as concerned about Colin McKay's over and over and over and over and over attempt at the back tail kickflip revert or whatever he tried over and over and was getting close to landing in the flat.
How does this guy get invited to something like this and why does he participate? Better yet, why does he still have a pro model? It's one thing if the dude was landing it but the commentator even said, 'we watched Colin try this for three hours the other night and he never landed it..."
The X-games are a waste. Colin yo-yo'ing himself up the tranny and back down again over and over is just as much of a waste. Good Grief.
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WHAT - check his bio

http://expn.go.com/athletes/bios/MCKAY_COLIN.html
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if you can't even figure out what trick he's trying...how can you even question him having a board out....i'd rather watch colin try stuff than bucky land stuff...

It was a back tail kickflip revert like I mentioned. The whatever came as a punctuation of how I felt about the trick and how on the few attempts where he got his feet near the baord, he was 2 feet into the transition near the flat. Whatever. And the fact that watching him attempt it over and over and over and not getting close to landing it was like watching a NASCAR race where cars just go around and around and around and around and around.
Bucky vs. Colin? 6 of one, half dozen of the other...they're both jocks that skate vert...one just actually wins contests sometimes and one hasn't placed in a contest since 2000 or whatever. Whatever.
I'm not going to debate about vert skaters because I don't really give a shit about it. I will gladly debate about pros who have pro models who don't deserve them though. Colin McKay is the first pro that comes to mind. Simple as that.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: ymhy on August 08, 2006, 09:24:28 AM
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espn is so xtreme they dont need to get the name of tricks right, because what they say goes.......
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What "ollie north"

Serioulys what the fuck is it supposed to mean ?

"one footed ollie" or "ollie one foot" pretty much can't say the trick any better but "ollie north" i mean fuck off with that shit
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I heard "ollie north" before the x-games, but never liked the name. ITs a reference to 1980's Iran contra co-conspirator Oliver North.
The one that pisses me off is the "overcrook" thing that seemed to have spawned from thps. Before that a backside one was called a Gersh grind and frontside ones seemed to be picking up momentum under the name "McCrank grind" where I was from.

"mccrank grind" and "gersh grind"?

what fucking planet is your broke ass from? 
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: ymhy on August 08, 2006, 09:27:39 AM
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I hear you gentlemen about the commentators but I'm just as concerned about Colin McKay's over and over and over and over and over attempt at the back tail kickflip revert or whatever he tried over and over and was getting close to landing in the flat.
How does this guy get invited to something like this and why does he participate? Better yet, why does he still have a pro model? It's one thing if the dude was landing it but the commentator even said, 'we watched Colin try this for three hours the other night and he never landed it..."
The X-games are a waste. Colin yo-yo'ing himself up the tranny and back down again over and over is just as much of a waste. Good Grief.
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WHAT - check his bio

http://expn.go.com/athletes/bios/MCKAY_COLIN.html
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if you can't even figure out what trick he's trying...how can you even question him having a board out....i'd rather watch colin try stuff than bucky land stuff...
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It was a back tail kickflip revert like I mentioned. The whatever came as a punctuation of how I felt about the trick and how on the few attempts where he got his feet near the baord, he was 2 feet into the transition near the flat. Whatever. And the fact that watching him attempt it over and over and over and not getting close to landing it was like watching a NASCAR race where cars just go around and around and around and around and around.
Bucky vs. Colin? 6 of one, half dozen of the other...they're both jocks that skate vert...one just actually wins contests sometimes and one hasn't placed in a contest since 2000 or whatever. Whatever.
I'm not going to debate about vert skaters because I don't really give a shit about it. I will gladly debate about pros who have pro models who don't deserve them though. Colin McKay is the first pro that comes to mind. Simple as that.

just stop posting, you're annoying
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: sizable on August 08, 2006, 09:51:15 AM
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I hear you gentlemen about the commentators but I'm just as concerned about Colin McKay's over and over and over and over and over attempt at the back tail kickflip revert or whatever he tried over and over and was getting close to landing in the flat.
How does this guy get invited to something like this and why does he participate? Better yet, why does he still have a pro model? It's one thing if the dude was landing it but the commentator even said, 'we watched Colin try this for three hours the other night and he never landed it..."
The X-games are a waste. Colin yo-yo'ing himself up the tranny and back down again over and over is just as much of a waste. Good Grief.
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WHAT - check his bio

http://expn.go.com/athletes/bios/MCKAY_COLIN.html
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if you can't even figure out what trick he's trying...how can you even question him having a board out....i'd rather watch colin try stuff than bucky land stuff...
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It was a back tail kickflip revert like I mentioned. The whatever came as a punctuation of how I felt about the trick and how on the few attempts where he got his feet near the baord, he was 2 feet into the transition near the flat. Whatever. And the fact that watching him attempt it over and over and over and not getting close to landing it was like watching a NASCAR race where cars just go around and around and around and around and around.
Bucky vs. Colin? 6 of one, half dozen of the other...they're both jocks that skate vert...one just actually wins contests sometimes and one hasn't placed in a contest since 2000 or whatever. Whatever.
I'm not going to debate about vert skaters because I don't really give a shit about it. I will gladly debate about pros who have pro models who don't deserve them though. Colin McKay is the first pro that comes to mind. Simple as that.
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just stop posting, you're annoying

Awesome! Another DC/Syndrome head up in this piece!
Your opinions are outdated and no longer hold any significance in skating so you can leave now, thanks.
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: sizable on August 08, 2006, 09:58:35 AM
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I hear you gentlemen about the commentators but I'm just as concerned about Colin McKay's over and over and over and over and over attempt at the back tail kickflip revert or whatever he tried over and over and was getting close to landing in the flat.
How does this guy get invited to something like this and why does he participate? Better yet, why does he still have a pro model? It's one thing if the dude was landing it but the commentator even said, 'we watched Colin try this for three hours the other night and he never landed it..."
The X-games are a waste. Colin yo-yo'ing himself up the tranny and back down again over and over is just as much of a waste. Good Grief.
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WHAT - check his bio

http://expn.go.com/athletes/bios/MCKAY_COLIN.html
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if you can't even figure out what trick he's trying...how can you even question him having a board out....i'd rather watch colin try stuff than bucky land stuff...
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It was a back tail kickflip revert like I mentioned. The whatever came as a punctuation of how I felt about the trick and how on the few attempts where he got his feet near the baord, he was 2 feet into the transition near the flat. Whatever. And the fact that watching him attempt it over and over and over and not getting close to landing it was like watching a NASCAR race where cars just go around and around and around and around and around.
Bucky vs. Colin? 6 of one, half dozen of the other...they're both jocks that skate vert...one just actually wins contests sometimes and one hasn't placed in a contest since 2000 or whatever. Whatever.
I'm not going to debate about vert skaters because I don't really give a shit about it. I will gladly debate about pros who have pro models who don't deserve them though. Colin McKay is the first pro that comes to mind. Simple as that.
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just stop posting, you're annoying

Oh shit, it's you. Don't you have some tears to cry over Kerry Getz or something? I'm glad your shitty little bumpkin spot got shut down. Maybe it has something to do with karma...you know, the fact that you're a little bitch?
Title: Re: I love Espn
Post by: hairyarmpit on August 12, 2006, 12:23:57 AM
sizeable your a faggot , colin is dope